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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. Oh God, you want a podcast? Great, soy

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Speaker 5: All right, good to be with you as always.

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Speaker 6: It is Monday, March twenty five, twenty nineteen. It is

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Speaker 6: episode one hundred and ninety five of the Anakinploring Podcast.

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Speaker 6: You know TJ wants to do something something special Kenny

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Speaker 6: for episode two hundred. I don't know if it's in

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Speaker 6: the cards, but we're five shows away, so we got

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Speaker 6: some time to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Episode two hundred. That's crazy, man, Wow.

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Speaker 6: If only people could go back to our initial conversation

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Speaker 6: about launching this podcast and maybe some of your initial hesitancy.

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Speaker 6: And maybe that's putting it a little strongly, but dude,

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Speaker 6: we're coming up on four years, which is just crazy

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Speaker 6: of being weekly. I have only missed a few weeks

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Speaker 6: couple weeks ago. Hopefully that doesn't happen anytime soon. We

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Speaker 6: have a ton to get to today. Longo's coming up

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Speaker 6: in eleven minutes. I feel like we're already chasing the clock.

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Speaker 6: We'll get to TJ. Dillashaw and him getting flagged by

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Speaker 6: Yusada and vacating or relinquishing as UFC bandam Way title.

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Speaker 6: A lot of ramifications and implications there, but we got

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Speaker 6: to lead the show with Anthony showtime Pettis. I mean,

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Speaker 6: all we could do off the air in our little

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Speaker 6: pre show meeting was just laugh right. This dude with

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Speaker 6: another highlight for the real I guess he called it

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Speaker 6: a Superman hook, so not your traditional Superman punch. He

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Speaker 6: did raise the knee, landed the hook, but big picture,

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Speaker 6: this dude, former UFC and WC Lightweight Champion, former UFC

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Speaker 6: featherweight at times, moves up to one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: one of the best strikers in UFC history, Steven Warner

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Speaker 6: Boy Thompson. What else can you say about Anthony showtime pass.

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Speaker 7: Dude, Absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you know, we talked about this fight,

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Speaker 1: and listen, I will analyze a fight and I will

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Speaker 1: do my best to analyze as far as making predictions.

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Speaker 1: This is what makes this sport so great. It is

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Speaker 1: tough to make a prediction in this sport. And Anthony

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Speaker 1: Pettis took a fight that I believed was not a

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Speaker 1: good matchup for him. Obviously, Anthony Pettis thought differently. It

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Speaker 1: I thought wonder Boy Speed was able to keep up.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was able to keep up with the

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Speaker 1: former lightweight champion Anthony Pettis. He was doing a great job,

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Speaker 1: he was landing shots, but there's no doubt that he

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Speaker 1: Anthony Pettis. Typically, wonder Boy likes to get in and

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Speaker 7: He was staying in that pocket.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Pettis was returning with kicks beautifully, and then it

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Speaker 1: was in the second round where he landed that hook.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, John, it was not a Superman punch.

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Speaker 1: That was a straight, right down the middle shot. It

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Speaker 7: And those are the shots that always hurt you.

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Speaker 1: I want to believe that it's not Wonderboy's chin that

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Speaker 6: So what makes these Superman strikes so effective? Or I

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Speaker 1: You know, typically when you throw a Superman punch, it's

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Speaker 1: Now, the way that Anthony Pettis threw it, he was

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Speaker 1: And if there's a knock on Anthony Pettis, John we

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Speaker 1: he kind of quits when when you know the chips

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Speaker 6: despite the fact that that narrative gained legs to whatever

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Speaker 6: he's a UFC Hall of Famer. Okay, Now, first of all,

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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame is subjective, so this is a

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Speaker 6: out their different circumstances. You mentioned, Thompson was more aggressive

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Speaker 6: He won the belt at one hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty five pound champ, That's all you

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Speaker 7: The fact that he was able to.

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Speaker 1: Accomplish that is extremely impressive. He's had his belt with

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Speaker 7: Now that's very impressive.

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Speaker 6: Three fighters in UFC history with wins at one hundred

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Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six, Kenna Dallan Florian. We always like seeing

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow's Nae. See, you're in those record books rear

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Speaker 6: naked choke submissions, and certainly nobody's going to ever be

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Speaker 7: That guy was a punk. He doesn't deserve to be there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, again, just the fact that Anthony Pettis

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Speaker 1: is just ridiculous. Tough situation. Now for WonderBoy moving forward,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, and very unfortunate for wonder Boy. One of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, great representative of the state of South Carolina, and

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Speaker 6: we all know Ken Flow now has roots in that

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Speaker 6: great that's for South Carolina. Let's stay on Stephen wonder

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Speaker 6: Boy Thompson here for a second, because he's thirty six

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Speaker 6: that was one of the first things that Thompson articulated.

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Speaker 6: It's just this sport is crazy, man, It is so hard,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know that there's any better example here

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Speaker 1: It is last five, John, It's exactly why I hate

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Speaker 1: doing the Nativevent challenge. Well, but it's so tough. It

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Speaker 1: is really tough in this sport. It's what makes it

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Speaker 1: so damn exciting. But it really is very difficult to

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Speaker 6: Well, and that's why a lot of MMA handicappers wouldn't

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Speaker 6: love doing a podcast in which which they have to

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Speaker 6: pick every single main card fight, right, because they're very

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Speaker 6: I was looking at this fight card last weekend, you

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Speaker 6: know I liked Random Marcos as an underdog, right, I

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Speaker 6: thought there was some value there, But a lot of

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Speaker 6: it's just it's very, very difficult. But I will say

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Speaker 6: that for Anthony Pettis to be plus three ninety or so, right,

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Speaker 5: But the fact that I was looking at.

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Speaker 6: A computer screen and saw him at plus three ninety

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Speaker 6: was ready to call his shot after the fact. He

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Speaker 6: the Hafayel dos Angos fight back, and seemingly that's a

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Speaker 6: You know, I do want to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 7: To your boy w B w B.

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Speaker 8: Man, I love the kid, but uh Man, I thought

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Speaker 8: I talked to uh. I was talking to Duke. I

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Speaker 8: had so off to Duke Rufus and Pettis for really

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm glad that you shouted out, Duke Rufus, And

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of people that deserve credit. Abe Kawa,

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Speaker 6: You know, we were talking about Steven Thompson before you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I got to tell you one the boy.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's just even the videos he posts, that's

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know he's.

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Speaker 8: And Kenny, I think you'll agree, that's not easy to

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Speaker 1: To your point, I have a question about that, because,

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Speaker 1: or do you think this was a matter of Anthony

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Speaker 8: I think to your point is you can't really argue

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been fighting for a long time. You know,

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Speaker 8: He's got sixty kickboxing fights, which is a lot.

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Speaker 5: So Yeah, but how about Ray longer? Still?

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Speaker 6: Holme pads like a champion, right, I mean, how about you?

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Speaker 5: No carporal tunnel syndrome there in Dark City, New York.

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Speaker 8: Now, let me tell you some First off, I'm in

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Speaker 1: Kidding raised like wolverine A.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes I'm looking at him like, what the hell am

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Speaker 6: adverse finding and a test taken for my last fight.

434
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Speaker 6: While words can't even begin to express how disappoint I

435
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 6: am at this time, please know that I'm working with

436
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 6: my team to understand what has occurred and how to

437
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 6: resolve the situation as quickly as possible. Out of fairness

438
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 6: and respect to the rest of my division, I've informed

439
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 6: the UFC that I will be voluntarily relinquishing my title

440
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,199
Speaker 6: while I deal with this matter. I want to thank

441
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 6: you on advance for the support. Okay, So that was

442
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 6: the bomb that dropped a few days ago.

443
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 7: TJ.

444
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 6: Dillashaw no longer the king of the one hundred and

445
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 6: thirty five pounders. And while we could spend fifteen minutes

446
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 6: on that news, I bring it up to you in

447
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 6: the context of al Jamaine Sterling because even though he's

448
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 6: coming off his biggest win over Jimmy Rivera. The expectation

449
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 6: was given how crowded the top of this division was,

450
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 6: and given that it looked like Dila Shaw and Marlon

451
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 6: but Ice had business and Henry Shudo and Dilashaw might

452
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 6: have had business, it seemed like Aljo was going to

453
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 6: have to win one more fight. Then all of a sudden,

454
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 6: this news drops and a lot of us are thinking,

455
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 6: man al Jo is one of the chief beneficiaries, and

456
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 6: at the very least, this takes one name out of

457
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Speaker 6: the mix. What was your reaction when the Dila Shaw

458
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 6: news dropped a few days ago.

459
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, really really disappointed, like very disappointed.

460
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 8: I like Pj's a good kid. We don't know the facts,

461
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 8: but you know, there was rumblings from years ago that

462
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 8: he was doing stuff and it's it's upsetting to me

463
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 8: because you know, you try to do everything the right

464
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 8: way and then I don't know where I'm going with this,

465
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 8: but it's almost like, if you're gonna do something, just

466
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 8: shut your fucking mouth, don't get on grumbing and start

467
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 8: talking about training protocols. And I didn't. You didn't get

468
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 8: to see what Sam calab that does or whatever. If

469
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 8: that guy knew that that kid was on something, the

470
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 8: whole thing's just bullshit. That's where I have a problem.

471
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, I want to believe these guys.

472
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 8: I want to believe that, you know, you train this

473
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 8: way and you get a better result. Here's one thing

474
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 8: that's for certain. Steroids work. There is no.

475
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: Question in anybody. Kenny to do steroids his entire career.

476
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 8: But you know what I mean, Kenny, steroids work. I

477
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 8: don't like if I do the big bodybuild a guy

478
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 8: and he's doing just you know, do the go from

479
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 8: the curls to the left, pull down machine, rub some avogado,

480
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 8: dip on the holes and then your I don't want

481
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 8: to hear it, you know what I mean, Like you

482
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 8: want to believe this shit, you know, but I don't

483
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 8: want anybody could get big using steroids, and every anybody

484
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 8: could get enhanced using steroid to a performance ennancing drugs.

485
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 8: So to me, I think this is a big problem

486
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 8: for TJ. Because I think he is a good guy

487
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 8: and it is gonna tarnish him. And I think he's

488
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 8: you know, he's got more of a conscious than that

489
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 8: John Jones, who just doesn't give a fuck about anything,

490
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

491
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Speaker 1: So it's really good for him, and I'll tell you it's.

492
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 8: Gonna be hard because I think he's the guy that

493
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 8: really works at at his craft. He's super talented, he's

494
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 8: a student of the game. But this ship is not good.

495
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 8: And you know what I mean, because I deal with like,

496
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 8: you know, uh, nutrition guys and everything, and they got

497
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 8: to listen to everybody's bullshit. Oh this guy's doing this,

498
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 8: this guy's doing just what. This guy's fucking cheating, which

499
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 8: try in a hard way and right, you know, and

500
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 8: it's just really does.

501
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Speaker 1: I'm why it's gonna be that much more difficult Ray

502
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: because you know, not only is it gonna tarnish his name,

503
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 1: but how do you come back mentally?

504
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 7: And we've seen this before.

505
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Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna mention any names, but when

506
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: you see these guys that are coming off of using

507
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: or getting caught and now they can't use mentally physically,

508
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: they're not the same guy.

509
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 7: And that's the big thing.

510
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the major problems with using and then

511
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: not using, is that mentally physically you're not the same guy.

512
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 7: You can't rely on that stuff. Anymore.

513
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna be the big challenge I

514
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: think for TJ going forward is at one point, you know,

515
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: myself and I think a lot of other people were considering,

516
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, as one of the best pound for pound

517
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: fighters in the world. Now I don't know. And then

518
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: how did he get there? That's a big problem exactly.

519
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 8: And then and then we got to deal with this

520
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 8: other problem. Now they're already you know, playing their defense

521
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 8: and know what, you know, I cycled five years ago

522
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 8: and because I went down the twenty five, my Livers

523
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 8: stores released the Peak of Rams and it's just the

524
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 8: bottom line is me, you John, you could take off

525
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 8: blood from here until fucking two thousand and ninety eight.

526
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 8: You're not finding a peaking Graham of anything.

527
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: That's the problem, right, And that was the issue.

528
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 8: And like again, it makes it worse when they get

529
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 8: on like a public forum and they're passing out information

530
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 8: like knowing that it's bullshit. Like that part is crazy

531
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 8: to me, you know what I mean, because that takes

532
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 8: it a special guy man. That's not easy to do well.

533
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 6: And I think, yeah, a lot of us are are

534
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 6: still awaiting word on the substance, and we want to

535
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 6: hear sort of what the ramifications are.

536
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right.

537
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 6: Ray for guys like Henry Shudo and Ben Askron and

538
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 6: Daniel Cormier and the Olympians who've been tested and pricked

539
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 6: their whole lives, never a glimpse of anything. Uh, you

540
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 6: want to give TJ the benefit of the doubt in

541
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 6: some respect, but I can understand why for a lot

542
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: of people it's hard to do that.

543
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's almost like any of these guys now, because

544
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 8: I know Chris sent me the news, you know, I

545
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 8: woke up and I call him, like, you know what, man,

546
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 8: even like you know, because we were always researching books

547
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 8: and listening. But everybody that writes a book should be

548
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 8: publicly blood tested at this point, because again, I don't

549
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 8: want to if you're using shit and you're looking great

550
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 8: and you're writing a book on this is what I

551
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 8: did to get there and there's no mention of using

552
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 8: and I don't want to hear it. I mean, like,

553
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 8: we know we could do it that way. That's a given.

554
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 8: Give me the right way, you know what I mean?

555
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 9: Like you know, oh, I know it really was this one.

556
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 8: This one hit me harder because like again, I like PJ.

557
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 8: And I know he's a student of the game, but

558
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 8: I think it tarnishes everybody. I'd like to get an

559
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 8: interview with Sam Colivida. I mean, he was taking half follicles,

560
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 8: he was taking blood, right, nothing showed up.

561
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 7: Easy to train, easy to train when you're feeling great.

562
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: Not so easy to train when you feel like crap

563
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: and your sore's hell exactly.

564
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 8: And that's my point, because I have to deal with

565
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 8: it as a trainer, you know what I mean. The

566
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 8: easy way is just to put everybody on everything.

567
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 5: Well and and the thing too.

568
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 6: Right, As I always said, if I'm a clean athlete

569
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden there's some supplement or whatever, like,

570
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 6: certainly it's on you. But man, you scream innocence from

571
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: the rooftops. You know, you don't that initial statement is

572
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: like I have no idea, you know. And sometimes when

573
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 6: you don't get that from guys, you know. And and Johnny,

574
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 6: can you answer this? This was the test from the

575
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 6: guard Brand fight, the host fight test after the Shudos Suda.

576
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, sorry, I'm saying this is gonna taarnish

577
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 8: his fights with gar Brand. It's gonna tarnish you. I mean,

578
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 8: I think he's I think, and I gotta tell you,

579
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 8: I don't think he's a money maker for the UFC,

580
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 8: So he's gonna get completely thrown under the bus. They

581
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 8: ain't move in, no fight from Vegas to California for him.

582
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 8: So I think he's he's got other issues to deal with.

583
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 8: But it should be interesting. I mean, no, really, really really,

584
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 8: I think it's really unfortunate because again I think the

585
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 8: guy really, you know, I know, he was just doing

586
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 8: the game. I've talked to him, I've met him. I

587
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 8: don't get it. I really don't get it.

588
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 5: So as far as go ahead, go ahead.

589
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 8: Now, I'm just saying, like, you know, I don't know, Like, honestly,

590
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 8: if my guys were doing anything, they are one hundred

591
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 8: percent they would never tell me. That's a fact. So so,

592
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 8: but I got to tell you, anybody gets hot, I

593
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 8: think the culture in here is going to be pretty harsh,

594
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 8: to be honest with you, So I don't know. I mean,

595
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 8: you have to surround yourself with like minded people, and

596
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 8: you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't even know.

597
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 8: I don't know.

598
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 5: I understand.

599
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 6: How are yeah, when you when everybody in your gym

600
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 6: is perennially squeaky clean.

601
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, we don't know. Look, I'm saying that

602
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 8: I have a hundred percent in my knowledge squeaky clean.

603
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 8: But even for me, like I think about going on TRT,

604
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 8: I would make cold in the pads easy to get

605
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 8: rid of some of the tender nighters in my elbows.

606
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 8: And you know that I could do that. I'm not

607
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 8: competing with anybody, but I still But I tell you,

608
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 8: when I do it, I'll let you know about it

609
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 8: for sure.

610
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll have to go back on video by then.

611
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: What are you waiting for? You must just have a

612
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: whole lot of testosterone ripping through you. Huh long ago.

613
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 8: Let me tell you, so that fifty five it was

614
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 8: a jokingness. My test was like seven fifty three. They

615
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 8: said everybody was calling that was bullshit. So I don't

616
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 8: know where it is now, but hopefully it's in the

617
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 8: Hopefully it's at least four hundred.

618
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna have to be We're gonna have

619
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 6: to be economical with these final five minutes that we

620
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 6: have with you. I need to know how you think

621
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 6: all of this impacts Al Jamain Sterling, because since obviously

622
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 6: the well I just want to alert our listeners to

623
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 6: the fact that Dana White seemed to intimate over the

624
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: weekend after the Nashville show that Henry Shudo and Marlon

625
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 6: Madice would be next for the vacant UFC bandam Wait title.

626
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 6: But your guy al Jamain Sterling along with Pedro Munoz,

627
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 6: those were seemingly the three guys who were considered.

628
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: Looks like the fight's going to Henry.

629
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 8: Uh. I look, Marais deserves the shot. There's actually no

630
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 8: overdue if anything, him champion. You know, that's uh, it's

631
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 8: a Huno thing. Is is a little weird, but you

632
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 8: know they were going to close out the division. He

633
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 8: did beat Dylis show, so I don't really have a

634
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 8: problem with that. And I think al Jo, you know,

635
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 8: was in a great spot and al Jo should definitely

636
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 8: be ahead of Munos, I think. But uh, I think

637
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 8: Aljo's right where he wants to be. And who knows,

638
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 8: something can happen in this fight where somebody gets injured

639
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 8: and he's right in there. So I think al Jo's

640
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 8: right exactly where he wants to be, and UH give

641
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 8: him the winner. Rooksa Hudo and uh and Maria's I

642
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 8: think that's fair too.

643
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope that that you guys wouldn't take a

644
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: fight with Adria Modios. I think you need to bide

645
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 6: your time. And if I were you, I'm training for

646
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 6: that date for you know.

647
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 8: Oh, without a doubt, without a doubt. Now, that's that's

648
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Speaker 8: that's definitely the game, without a doubt.

649
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Speaker 5: I know.

650
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 6: Dana White also intimated that Juca four Meg and Joseph

651
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 6: Benavidez we're gonna fight, and maybe that would produce a backup.

652
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure that would make sense for a one

653
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pound title, but.

654
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't understand that they're gonna fight it twenty five.

655
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Speaker 8: But in case, yeah, one guy gets hurt, they'll go

656
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Speaker 8: to thirty five.

657
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety five, thirty five, same thing, right, same thing.

658
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, twenty five, thirty five, twenty five six, who knows

659
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 8: who's counting whatever?

660
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Speaker 6: Either way, if I have a top five Bandam weight

661
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: in my gym in twenty nineteen, we have spent so

662
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 6: much time over the last six months talking about this

663
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 6: division and the fact that it isn't moving forward expeditiously.

664
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Speaker 6: So I know the Dila Shan news we can isolate

665
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 6: and we spent ten minutes on it. But big picture

666
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 6: for you guys, anytime one of these guys is out

667
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: of the mix, whether it's Cody get knocked out by Pedro,

668
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: you know, all of a sudden, a month has passed

669
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Speaker 6: and Gar Branton, Dila Shaw and Cruise, they're all completely

670
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Speaker 6: out of the one hundred and thirty five pound mix ring.

671
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Speaker 8: Isn't that crazy? Man? Look not? But not that. I

672
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 8: mean I had two guys, I mean nine. Quint is

673
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 8: right on the cusp. He's got a tough fight with

674
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 8: Cowboy obviously, but something you know, he's he's right where

675
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 8: he wants to be too. So it's a great time

676
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 8: for the gym. Both of those guys are super great guys.

677
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Speaker 8: I love them both, and uh, I think twenty nineteen,

678
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 8: you don't know what's gonna happen, but you know, keep

679
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 8: our fingers cruised and things go right, we could have

680
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 8: another couple of champions.

681
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: Well maybe if you yeah, if one of the if

682
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 6: both win a belt, you got to get on that

683
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 6: testosterone and just go crazy.

684
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 7: You know.

685
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 8: This weekend anyway, I feel good good.

686
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, So forty days out for this fight between

687
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 6: Ally Quint and Donald Serona, you were tight lipped a

688
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 6: week ago. It seemed like right when we got off

689
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 6: the air, that fight came to fruition. That's uh, that's

690
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: a huge main event. And I know you like Al

691
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 6: over five rounds, right, Oh?

692
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 8: I love him over five rounds. Love him. He gets

693
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 8: even in training, he gets stronger as the rounds go on.

694
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 8: I think he's proven that in his fights and uh

695
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 8: by by, like I told you a while back, I

696
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 8: don't even want to see him have a fight at

697
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 8: three round fight again.

698
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 6: Right well, Ali Quinton a headlining spot yet again against

699
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 6: Donald Stroni. It's the main event coming up May fourth,

700
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 6: forty days from now. That means Ray Longo's got to

701
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 6: update that passport and get your asked to uh to

702
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 6: the Great White.

703
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah again, and Ray, thanks for not breaking that news

704
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: on the podcast.

705
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: By the way, Yeah, thanks Matt, Thanks mate, I appreciate that.

706
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Speaker 7: That's great.

707
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 8: I don't think I had to have that news. Can

708
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 8: we get anybody.

709
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 7: Get out of here? Get out of here?

710
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: Hey, go go call Matt Sarah have.

711
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 6: You yeah exactly, and then do what Hey, get al Joe,

712
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 6: get al Joe as the backup for Ice and so hudoah.

713
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 8: I think that's going to be the game plan. We

714
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 8: will jump on that. But you guys have me so

715
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 8: wamped up today. I gotta get going, all right side,

716
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 8: I'm out of my mind.

717
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: You are out of here.

718
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 8: Any anybody listening, go through steroids? Please, there you go,

719
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 8: and if you do it, if you do it, please

720
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 8: don't tell anybody.

721
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 5: Unless you're a your old pad holder.

722
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, there.

723
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: Is yeah, very long ago, just doing right by that

724
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 6: sixty plus crowd. Does he qualify as a senior? Probably

725
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 6: not yet. He doesn't have a gray hair on his head.

726
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 7: He's got the early Bird special though, for sure.

727
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh he's hitting that early Bird special. Paleo but

728
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 6: early Bird special, right, all right, so quickly to put

729
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 6: a bow on this banham weight division stuff, right, So,

730
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: the decision seemingly would have come down to al Jamaine

731
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 6: Sterling and Pedro Munoz if Henry Sahuto was going to

732
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 6: continue his career by saving the flyweight division.

733
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: Right now, I got into it with.

734
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Speaker 6: A few people on Twitter about this, so I wanted

735
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 6: to go a little bit longer and get Ken Flow's

736
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 6: thoughts on this before we make our picks for the

737
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 6: Philadelphia card this weekend. So essentially, Henry Sahudo has a case,

738
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 6: and his case is rooted in the fact that he

739
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 6: was going to get the TJ. Dillashaw fight at one

740
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds because he knocked out the

741
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: bantamway champion granted down a division at one hundred and

742
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 6: twenty five pounds. So a big part of Sahudo's case, Kenny,

743
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 6: is that he had the dilashof fight right. It was

744
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 6: not verbally agreed to, but they were moving to make

745
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 6: that fight. When Sahudo and Dilashaw fought the first time,

746
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 6: I thought it made more sense at twenty five than

747
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 6: thirty five because Shudo wouldn't have deserved to cut the

748
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 6: line and the ices of the world right. But now

749
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: I think that even though his case maybe isn't as

750
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 6: strong as Pedro Munoz's or al Jamaine Sterlings because he

751
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 6: hasn't fought at thirty five, I think Sahudo's worthy and

752
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: I think in a lot of respects.

753
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: This is the fight to make.

754
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Listen, I think you're right, and also, you know, what

755
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: does this mean for the one hundred and twenty five

756
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: pound division too? I mean, does this mean that basically

757
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of it, especially if Suhudo wins this.

758
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 7: A lot of questions here, but I do agree with you.

759
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: Him being the champion on one hundred and twenty five

760
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: pounds makes it that much more interesting in my opinion.

761
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: And you look at what Henry Sujudo has done in

762
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: his last couple of fights. Man, it's just Red defeating

763
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Demetrius Johnson, knocking out TJ.

764
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 7: Dillashaw. You know, being an Olympic gold medalist.

765
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: You know the fact that people know who Henry Suhudo

766
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: is and he has one of the more impressive combat

767
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: sports resumes around. So I don't have a problem with it.

768
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: I think it's well deserved. Suhudo has done everything he

769
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: needs to do to make this fight. He's been very

770
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: vocal about wanting that fight, and Yeah, I think it's

771
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: a great one because of it.

772
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 6: And I think this era of the super fight really

773
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 6: is circumstantial, right. I don't think two years from now

774
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 6: there are going to be all these guys who are

775
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 6: moving up and down. I think a lot of it

776
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 6: just has been circumstantial more than anything else can.

777
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and John, you probably have an answer for that.

778
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 7: What's going on?

779
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Would would mister Cruz is Dominic still injured in coming

780
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: back because we have forgot about and we have forgotten.

781
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 6: About Don right and again I injected his name into

782
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 6: the mixed sort of out of respect for the body

783
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 6: of work. He has always felt like he's going to

784
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: have to produce one win before that next championship opportunity,

785
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 6: but he doesn't believe he should have to. He wants

786
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 6: to come back and fight for the title. He doesn't

787
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 6: believe in ring Russ But he's gonna miss the balance

788
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 6: of twenty nineteen. So wow, he's doing physical therapy right now,

789
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 6: but realistically he wouldn't be able to get into training

790
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 6: camp until this summer. I think maybe fourth quarter is

791
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 6: even ambitious so as a pretty invasive procedure unfortunately, but

792
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: you can be sure. I mean, he's still he's gonna

793
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 6: go like hell to try to make another run at

794
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 6: this thing.

795
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 5: If not too so.

796
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Tahudo said he wanted to save the

797
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 6: flyweight division, but not at the expense of his own

798
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 6: career and this opportunity to make more UFC history. So

799
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: I respect Sahudo for wanting to fight and again, even

800
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 6: dating to his UFC debut Kenny and dating to some

801
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: of his struggles making flyweight, even though he's mastered the

802
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: weight cut right now, He's always talked about a future

803
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: a one hundred and thirty five pounds, the division in

804
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 6: which he thinks he can do his best work. So

805
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 6: this was an eventuality for Henry Sahudo and again in

806
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 6: terms of a meritocracy at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

807
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: In terms of pure competition, and I'd probably give the

808
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: shot to al Jamain Sterling right because he has the

809
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: body of work at Banham Wait. But don't tell me

810
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 6: Ray long ago that al Jo is more deserving than

811
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 6: Pedro Munoz, who just knocked out Cody Garbrand, who had

812
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: the higher rank in than Jimmy Rivera.

813
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: Right, So a lot of layers to it. I think

814
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: they're moving in the right direction.

815
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 6: One thing that was clear beyond the shadow of a

816
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 6: doubt was that Marlon Medice was going to be competing

817
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 6: for that vacant UFC bandam Wait title and certainly overdue

818
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 6: for Magic Marlon Maddice. So it's UFC Fight Night, Barbosa

819
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 6: versus Gay Chee this Saturday night. But we are not

820
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 6: bringing on this man to talk about Philadelphia. We're bringing

821
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: on this man to talk about Nashville. If you heard

822
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 6: our show last week, you know that Ian Parker is

823
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 6: angling to be our permanent guest picker and the sole

824
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: representative of Team Annik. You know, I still got my

825
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 6: guy man preachajas mm a Lock of the Night out there,

826
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 6: and some other cappers that we've used on the show

827
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 6: that deserve consideration. But with one hundred plus people in

828
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: the queue, Ian Parker knows how to make his picks

829
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 6: nine to three over the flow. Last week, he joins

830
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 6: us now live, Ip, how are you you?

831
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 8: I'm good, guys.

832
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 10: How you feeling, Kenny? How you feeling? Bro?

833
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 7: Uh? The ego is bruised, my friend? What the hell?

834
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 7: I mean?

835
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 5: Come on?

836
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Are you setting up these fights? Are you paying these fighters?

837
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 5: Are you?

838
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 7: Did you pay off wonder boy?

839
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: That's what happened right, Probably ridiculous, You know what, dude?

840
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: You know, I remember a certain part of our conversation

841
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: that went kind of like this, Ian, your analysis went

842
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: so well through this entire thing, then you completely blew it,

843
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 3: making Pattis in the second round.

844
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 10: And I was laughing because, you know what, I kind

845
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 10: of agreed with you.

846
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: But right, not this time, my friends, Dude, unbelievable, man, unbelievable.

847
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 6: So Ian actually has the bank roll to like pay

848
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 6: off a fighter, but we know Steven Warner Boy Thompson

849
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: would never do that.

850
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 7: Uh.

851
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: But Ian, you know it's a tricky thing because I

852
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 6: have like one hundred plus names in the queue, and

853
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 6: you know you beat Ken Flow twice head to head.

854
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 6: I think your analysis is a stude. You're obvious student

855
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 6: of the game. You're watching every UFC fight card. You're

856
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: also able to do it in a concise manner that

857
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 6: doesn't offend our listenership, which I like. But I got

858
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 6: one hundred plus names in the queue. You know, I'd

859
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 6: like to have you back on sooner rather than later.

860
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 6: But I'm just not sure how to proceed here. Despite

861
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: the nine to three win last week.

862
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: Well, listen, it's your guys show, so it's completely up

863
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: to you. However, the difference between me and every other

864
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: capper out there is my background with the sport as

865
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Speaker 3: it is, from fighting to managing guys like Chris Whyve

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Speaker 3: and John Belonte to owning one of the more popular

867
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Speaker 3: brands in Khira sponsored guys like Daniel Cormier before everyone

868
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Speaker 3: knew who either was in Shrike Force. I actually had

869
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Speaker 3: him on the Challenger Series. I had Josh Thompson against

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Speaker 3: jay Z Calvicante. You know, I had Misha Tate in

871
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Speaker 3: the tournament where she won two fights in that one night.

872
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Speaker 3: So I'm not just your random big fan boy that

873
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Speaker 3: just kind of came out in the blue that throws

874
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Speaker 3: these picks on Twitter.

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Speaker 10: And it's no disrespect a lot of these guys. They're

876
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Speaker 10: making good picks out there se the websites. I talked

877
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Speaker 10: to a few of them. They do know it.

878
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Speaker 3: But the difference between them and I is I've been

879
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Speaker 3: part of this sport for a really long time.

880
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Speaker 10: I know a lot of the fighters in and out.

881
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: One time, when we all meet in person, I will

882
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Speaker 3: show you guys the email that Joe Silva was forced

883
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: into me becoming his best friend because I would not leave.

884
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Speaker 10: Him alone when he told me that with Chris.

885
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Speaker 3: Wyman, I was not looking for we don't want another

886
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Speaker 3: wrestler ian who the hell are you?

887
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Speaker 8: Well?

888
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: When I sent him thirty eight emails until someone finally

889
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Speaker 3: finally got injured and that's how Chris got into the

890
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Speaker 3: Alessia Sakara fight and then getting him to give Costas Philip,

891
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Speaker 3: who his chance, you know, and John Belonte.

892
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Speaker 10: It's just there's a history there and.

893
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it also comes down to chemistry and connection. And

894
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Speaker 3: I think if you guys give me that chance, we're

895
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Speaker 3: going to do the next part in the interruption MMA.

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Speaker 10: Style and ESPN fucking sign us and.

897
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Speaker 6: Wow, let's do it so Ian Parker the conduit through

898
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Speaker 6: which we're gonna get signed by ESPA. You know, I

899
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 6: actually think you and Ken Flow going head to head.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I got so much love for

901
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 6: my man TJ. DeSantis, but maybe when I get influenza

902
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Speaker 6: B in two weeks, you can fill it co host

903
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Speaker 6: with the Flow.

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Speaker 10: Listen.

905
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Speaker 9: Uh.

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't wish the illness upon anyone, but if you

907
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: guys ever need me, I'm like the Donald Cowboys Seroni

908
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Speaker 3: of podcasts.

909
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Speaker 10: I'll I don't care about I don't care about the

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Speaker 10: weight class.

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00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: That's amazing.

912
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Speaker 6: I want to fight, all right, I'll get you out

913
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Speaker 6: of here on this. Edson Barbosa minus one fifty five

914
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 6: Justin Gaichee plus one twenty five pretty close fight on

915
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 6: paper lightweight main event this weekend. Do you have a

916
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: lean one way or the other?

917
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: I do you know the problem I have with a

918
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: fire like Justin Gaigee is that he's just relying way

919
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: too much on the brawl and the entertainment of fans,

920
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: and he really gets away from what his career started

921
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Speaker 3: off at with his wrestling.

922
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Speaker 10: And I think when Kenny and I spoke.

923
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Speaker 3: About this with Barbosa against Dan Hooker, Barbosa's takedown d

924
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: has really evolved over the years. And he is not

925
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Speaker 3: a stupid fighter striking wise, you know, very high level

926
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Speaker 3: I Q in that department. I have a hard time

927
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Speaker 3: seeing him a mind game. He doesn't fall into it.

928
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Speaker 3: He does not fight emotionally. And look, if you take

929
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: out Justin Gaigee's legs, he can't row. And we both

930
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: know the most dangerous kicker probably of all time has

931
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Speaker 3: to be Edson Barboza. I think Edsen Barboza kicks his

932
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Speaker 3: way to victory. Again, I don't think he gets into

933
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Speaker 3: a situation. You know, when Gay Chee fought Vic James Vick.

934
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Speaker 3: The problem with James Vic and everyone, Kenny, I think

935
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Speaker 3: you even pointed this out, is that when Vick backs

936
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Speaker 3: up against the cage, his hands are low.

937
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Speaker 10: But his chin's up, you know.

938
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Speaker 3: And what they kept saying in his fight against Paul

939
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Speaker 3: Felder is that as long as this guy doesn't pretty

940
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Speaker 3: much keep back up against the cage, there's nowhere for

941
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Speaker 3: his chin to.

942
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Speaker 10: Really go any higher.

943
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Speaker 3: And I don't think Edsen Barbosa is that guy that

944
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Speaker 3: makes those mistakes. So unless Gaigie catches him and a

945
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Speaker 3: wild thing, I just don't see it happening. The Kicks

946
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Speaker 3: will keep it at range, and I think Barboza takes

947
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Speaker 3: this victory and moves on.

948
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Speaker 10: And I think Gaichee really.

949
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: At some point is gonna have to say to himself,

950
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Speaker 3: I'm a lot of fun to watch, but if I

951
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Speaker 3: really want to win and get the top level competition,

952
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: I got a threaten to takedowns in order for the

953
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Speaker 3: striking to really be a felt.

954
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Speaker 6: All right, there he is, Ian Parker bringing it as usual.

955
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 6: Thanks buddy, we'll talk to you soon.

956
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Speaker 10: Looking forward to it. Guys, appreciate it.

957
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 6: Dud Ian park are gonna lay ten g's on Edson Barboza.

958
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 6: I don't know how these mary, these married men with

959
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Speaker 6: children can put ten well, I guess because they win,

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Speaker 6: that's probably how.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They probably also have a lot of money in the account,

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Speaker 1: so they could get oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh his bank grows a lot better than for sure.

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Speaker 6: All right, pronunciation of the week time. It has brought

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Speaker 5: Or you can call four two four.

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Speaker 6: Three eight nine four zero three eight or if you

976
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Speaker 6: want Ken Flow sell five oh eight.

977
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Speaker 5: All right, TJ, get your Mike hot.

978
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Speaker 6: This fighter represents the hottest team in mixed martial arts

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Speaker 6: at present Foison m A in Dallas. The African Savage

980
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Speaker 6: six and O makes his UFC debut Saturday night on

981
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Speaker 6: ESPN against Bear Jew, Paul Craig, TJ.

982
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Speaker 5: DeSantis. Of whom am I speaking?

983
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

984
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 11: I think you're speaking of Kennedy and Zuchukuwu oh Man. See.

985
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 6: I love you, bro, But it's almost like like do

986
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 6: you not care about your record in twenty nineteen?

987
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: In two thousand seven, it's.

988
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 7: Like me with predictions. It's like me with predictions right now.

989
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, hey, I have no reference, no point of reference

990
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 11: on this one. Like I was trying to, you know,

991
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 11: figure out how I could you know Carolina koval Keevich

992
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 11: this one and and use my my background, but I

993
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 11: got nothing. This is I looked at this thing and

994
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 11: basically my tongue just left my mouth. It wasn't gonna work.

995
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 11: It's this is terrible.

996
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 7: Thanks for this. I appreciate it.

997
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 6: So on paper it's n z e c h uk

998
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 6: w u. And he doesn't cheat, right See. I sent

999
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 6: TJ the fileken Flow and he's not listening to it.

1000
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 7: TJ. It's exactly how it's spelled. Man, just just say it.

1001
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 7: Really not that hard.

1002
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: I think.

1003
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 7: Kenny, you go, you go.

1004
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: John probably knows well. I need to practice more between

1005
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 6: now and Saturday night. But I believe it is Kennedy

1006
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 6: and Zechaku.

1007
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 5: Let's hear how the man says Kennedy Kennedy is Zich Kennedy.

1008
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 7: So there you have it, so easy, TJ. It's so easy.

1009
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 7: It's right there, exactly how it's spelled.

1010
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: The Invicta FC play by play man TJ.

1011
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 6: DeSantis is nothing if not a good sport but alas

1012
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 6: he falls to zero to three for the pronunciation of

1013
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 6: the week in twenty nineteen. And speaking of that main

1014
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 6: cat Philadelphia, Pennsylvania this weekend. You can see it all

1015
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 6: live on ESPN. Let's get to the main event.

1016
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge.

1017
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: The time is most definitely fash fine, how do you everything?

1018
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: Boss will to win the main event challenge to John

1019
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: Nnick and Kenny Florian.

1020
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: Podcast aplied to his thirty six twenty nine for Team

1021
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 6: Anna going into UFC Nashville. As you heard Ian Parker

1022
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: best of the flow nine to three, five points on

1023
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 6: the Anthony showtime Pettis win three for him as an underdog.

1024
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 6: Excuse me four for him because he was plus three

1025
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 6: forty four points for that and one point for the

1026
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 6: round nine to three that was the lead Ken flow

1027
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 6: forty five thirty two.

1028
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 5: But again, look what you did in twenty eighteen.

1029
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 6: You made that double digit lead look like a piece

1030
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 6: of fucking shit and just shoot it up, spit it out,

1031
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 6: routed for the wins. This could be insurmountable though this

1032
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 6: is well it is. It is a huge start to

1033
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen for Team Annic. We're looking to keep it going.

1034
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 6: Today we're calling on Kyle motherfucking Lund. That's how he

1035
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: wanted to be introduced. Represented the great state of Washington. Kyle,

1036
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: we had you on the show in twenty seventeen, and

1037
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 6: you have been so persistent over last two years to

1038
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 6: get back on the show and so respectful along the

1039
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: way that I had no choice but to bring you back.

1040
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 5: So welcome back. You're on m ckimflow.

1041
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 9: Thank you so much. I feel like MaTx Tolloway right now,

1042
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 9: straight up blessed to be here. Boys you Ken Flow.

1043
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 9: Last time I didn't get to talk to your phone

1044
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 9: line dropped out, But oh man, that's okay, that's okay,

1045
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 9: But thanks for letting me on. Guys, I'm super excited.

1046
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 6: Well, we're happy to have you once again. And Ken

1047
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 6: Flow is not going to cut out today. He's on

1048
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 6: really good equipment there in Venice, California. I also want

1049
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 6: to say, for the rest of you who have emailed

1050
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: the show and a Florin podcast at gmail dot com,

1051
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: you were on the list and you might get the

1052
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 6: call as early as next week.

1053
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: So everybody in the QB be ready.

1054
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: We're going to get to all of you as soon

1055
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: as humanly possible, so UFC Philly first fight on the

1056
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 6: main card, Kyle and the featherweight division Sadik Yusuf out

1057
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Speaker 6: of Maryland by way of Nigeria minus one seventy five

1058
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 6: the favorite against the California based Brazilian Shame on Brie,

1059
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 6: Kyle Lund, Who do you like?

1060
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Speaker 8: All Right?

1061
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 9: So, first off, I do want to apologize to my kids,

1062
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 9: Tatum and Jack's DC and my mother for this. But

1063
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 9: Shaman Rice, this is actually a very great prospect fight.

1064
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 9: This is actually gonna be a really fun one for

1065
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 9: the fans. I see a lot of these fights tonight

1066
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 9: are actually pick eems. Any of them can be fight

1067
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 9: of the night. It's actually gonna be incredible. Uh. Shaman

1068
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 9: Rice is an in and out power striker. He fights

1069
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 9: a little tight, which wastes a lot of energy. He

1070
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 9: doesn't really like the pressure when people put it on him.

1071
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 9: But his elbow work is absolutely amazing and he loves

1072
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 9: that rip lean over to the body. He's a little

1073
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 9: heavy on his front leg, which I don't like for

1074
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 9: this style that Joseph's gonna bring with that crazy calf

1075
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 9: kick he throws. Oh my goodness, wants to fuck out

1076
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 9: with that when he does kick. When Maris does kick,

1077
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 9: he likes to lean back, falls away. He loses a

1078
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 9: lot of power on that, which I really don't like.

1079
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 9: So that kind of stands out to me as well.

1080
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 9: But Yoseff has a super talent man. This kid is

1081
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Speaker 9: super pretty to watch. I've done a lot of sample

1082
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 9: size to him. But his kick speeds and credit will.

1083
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 9: He stays relaxed and slowly. He was pretty good BJJ,

1084
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 9: but not that great. He's still up and coming. But

1085
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 9: for this one, I do got Sadik Yosef's second round

1086
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 9: TKO can flow.

1087
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 6: Sadiq a lot of hype behind him, rightfully so Lloyd

1088
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: Irvin train two minute knockout in his UFC debut back

1089
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 6: in December, getting a step up in competition here against Mace,

1090
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 6: whom I know you're familiar with. Obviously, Trains there in

1091
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 6: Los Angeles only UFC loss for him and his debut

1092
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 6: against a beating Mago met Charipov. That was back in

1093
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen. Your thoughts on Sadiq Usef and Shaman made That's.

1094
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Right and no shame in that loss to Maga bet Charipov.

1095
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: But I think Sadiq Usef I like his style. I'm

1096
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: not sure, I was so sold on him until his

1097
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: last fight. I really like his technique, I really like

1098
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: his speed, his fluidity. I think Yusef matches up very

1099
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: well here against what Ice, and I expect him to

1100
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: get the win here in this one.

1101
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 6: All right, Sadik Yusef minus one seventy five here as

1102
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 6: we sit here on Monday morning, all right, next up,

1103
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 6: title eliminator. I guess of sorts in the straweight division.

1104
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 6: Most believe next title challenger after Jessica Onraj is going

1105
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 6: to come out of that Nina answer off touchdown to

1106
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 6: Squarez fight. But this weekend, Kyle main card six ranked

1107
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 6: Carolina kovile Keevitch minus one fifty against number nine Michelle Waterson,

1108
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 6: who comes back at plus one twenty. You're like Covil

1109
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 6: Kievich or the Karate Hatty and Philly Kyle, So.

1110
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 9: This one's gonna be pretty in more than just one way.

1111
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 9: Is Carolina single played Covid Kievich first, A karate haughty

1112
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 9: is going to be an outstanding scrap. Both of these

1113
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 9: women are actually evolving very well in this ever changing

1114
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 9: game of MMA. They're both striking specialists, but they both

1115
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 9: outgrappled the big and strong felice herrit which I'm actually

1116
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 9: very surprised watching those back. I mean, they dominated that

1117
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 9: girl on the ground, which I did not think. But

1118
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 9: you know, we all know this is gonna be a

1119
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 9: striker's to light boys. With Waterson's stand switching, heavy kick

1120
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 9: game against one of the I think the best true

1121
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 9: eight point strikers in the world for the women's division

1122
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 9: in Carolina, this fight is going to be just amazing.

1123
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 9: With both girls not really having true kale power. I

1124
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 9: do see the full fifteen on this one. I think

1125
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 9: Karani using her quick latter of movement, lightning fastep in

1126
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 9: sidekick roundhouse kicks, but I think that Covid Keevis is

1127
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 9: actually going to really get this one. She does keep

1128
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 9: her hand up high, that right hand tight to her

1129
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 9: gin ready to land that three piece with the soda,

1130
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 9: so that roundhouse should be not too effective for her.

1131
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 9: I think, so you're going to be a beautiful suck.

1132
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 5: So you're going Carolina minus one fifty.

1133
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 9: It sounds like, right, yeah, we'll take We'll take single

1134
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 9: play toilet paper for the win decision.

1135
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 6: Apparently to Covid Daevich minus one fifty, she was knocked

1136
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: out viciously by Jessica Andras. That was UFC two twenty

1137
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 6: eight last September in Dallas, So she took some time off.

1138
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 6: Gets back here, Kenny. I think Waterson right now, far

1139
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 6: and away the best version of herself fighting prime, thirty

1140
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 6: three years old, two straight wins Corny Casey, Felice, herrig.

1141
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 6: Her confidence is just on a completely different level, maximizing

1142
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: the promotional push that she is getting. The question is

1143
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 6: does she vault into contention and take out the favorite

1144
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 6: Cobal Caviage.

1145
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 7: This is a tough one.

1146
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: I think Michelle Waterson is right now at the prime

1147
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: part of her career right now.

1148
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 7: I do agree with you there. Her confidence is high.

1149
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: She also gets off to a good start typically, but

1150
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: she can fade a little bit later in the fight.

1151
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 7: She can lose her focus a little bit.

1152
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: I do like what she's doing with her takedowns here,

1153
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think she's gonna be able to.

1154
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 7: Take down Cobal Kavich.

1155
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I think it will be a battle in that clinch,

1156
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the muy Thai style clinch of

1157
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Covid Kavich versus the wrestling of Michelle Waterson. I think

1158
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: Waterson has very good sidekicks. She needs to use them

1159
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: in this fight against the taller, lankier Cobal Kaevich, But

1160
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna have a huge effect on

1161
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: covial Kavich. I think Covid Cage's lenk is going to

1162
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: be a problem for Waterson. I think she's gonna be

1163
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: able to stop the takedowns, and I think cobal Kaevich

1164
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: gets the win here against Michelle Waters.

1165
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 6: All right, you guys agree on the first two fights.

1166
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: Now we get to a featured bout at featherweight and

1167
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 6: a good one. A pick him according to Las Vegas

1168
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 6: Josh Emmett minus one fifteen, Michael the Menace Johnson minus

1169
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 6: one fifteen, Kyle, who do you like here?

1170
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: At featherweight?

1171
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 9: So really quick? I do want to give a shout

1172
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 9: out to MROCKI BJJ please call four two four two

1173
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 9: nine two eight two eight zero, or if you would like,

1174
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 9: just fucking google Kenny Flooring BJJ. It'll pop up on

1175
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 9: your screen. Baby, Sorry loft that I just want to

1176
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 9: throw that at a fretty big guy. But yeah, Josh Man,

1177
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 9: he has true man strength. I mean this guy has

1178
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 9: muscles on top of muscles. I mean It's just it's

1179
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 9: crazy what this.

1180
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 8: Guy looks like.

1181
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 9: He has really good lattle movement. The only thing I

1182
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 9: really don't like he doesn't really throw a lot of combinations,

1183
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 9: and I think with Michael Johnson's speed, he's gonna need

1184
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 9: to touch him a couple of times before he can

1185
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 9: land that. I feel he keeps looking for these power

1186
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 9: strikes too much. I do like his power though, I mean,

1187
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 9: watch out, he's gonna knock you the fuck out any second.

1188
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 9: His cage where this is very good. I mean he

1189
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 9: angles away quick. Michael Johnson he has had issues. They

1190
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 9: actually both have had issues making weight as of late,

1191
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 9: so this should be you know, let's hope they both

1192
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 9: missed light on this. Bad boy. Michael Johnson did just

1193
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 9: fight a powerpuncher and Artum lowbof so he knows what

1194
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 9: he's looking for. And I think the South Past dance

1195
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 9: is gonna give Emmett fits a little bit. But he

1196
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 9: does have that quirky kind of TJ. Dillashaw Domin Cruz

1197
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 9: skip step style with it, so he can go both ways,

1198
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 9: which is good. Let's be honest. I mean, Michael Johnson

1199
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 9: grew up in the UFC, so his record actually isn't

1200
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 9: what it should be, and he did fight Daisy to

1201
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: a fight of the year. I mean that fight was

1202
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 9: absolutely brutal and amazing. Can't complain about that. But I

1203
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 9: do actually think Josh will land one on him. I

1204
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 9: feel like Michael Johnson's slowing down just a little bit,

1205
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 9: so I think the power hookful land I've got Josh

1206
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 9: emit Ko.

1207
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 6: I don't know third round, all right, Michael Johnson did

1208
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: miss wait, by the way, in monked in one hundred

1209
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 6: and forty seven pounds, So good on you there, Kyle.

1210
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 6: I somehow omitted that from memory when I was talking

1211
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 6: about MJ earlier on. But you're right about his UFC

1212
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 6: tenure maybe affecting the pro record twenty first UFC appearance

1213
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 6: for Michael Johnson, Kenny's won two in a row and

1214
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 6: Emmett back for the first time in more than a

1215
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 6: year when he was concussed by Jeremy Stevens.

1216
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: Emmett thirteen and two pick him. According to Vegas Flow,

1217
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: who do you like?

1218
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 7: This is an interesting fight? Listen.

1219
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: I think that Michael Johnson at one hundred and fifty

1220
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: five pounds has that knockout power to get it done

1221
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: at one forty five against josh Emmett, though he doesn't

1222
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: seem to have that same kind of pop now movement wise,

1223
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: I think he can give some problems to Josh Emmett

1224
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: when Michael Johnson is moving and moving laterally, he could

1225
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: be tough to catch.

1226
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 7: For Josh Emmett.

1227
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: I think he needs a mix in his wrestling mix

1228
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: in that striking, especially in close range, not gonna be

1229
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: easy against a fast Michael Johnson. This is a tough

1230
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: one to pick, one that can certainly go either way.

1231
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: And I think the odds, obviously, you know, show that

1232
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: I'll go with Emmett.

1233
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 6: I'll go with them in here, all right, A couple

1234
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 6: picks there on Josh Emmett. Now we get to the

1235
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 6: Komaine event. Jack Hermanson unranked right now at one hundred

1236
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 6: and eighty five pounds. He is the slight favorite here

1237
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 6: minus one twenty five against eleventh ranked David Branch.

1238
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 7: Kyle.

1239
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 5: Who do you like in the Komain?

1240
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 9: So both these guys are actually very underrated and not

1241
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 9: talking about enough in my book. Shout out to Barbershaw

1242
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 9: Branch Hall of Famer Matt Sarah Tara Wow brute pusher.

1243
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 9: That one Matt Tera Sarah Hall of Famer nickname. That's

1244
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 9: good shit. So David Branch his head movement is actually

1245
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 9: top notch. He moves his head so well that it's

1246
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 9: gonna be tough for her Manson's in and out floating

1247
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 9: style to touch him. He has a beautiful blast double

1248
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 9: great head position on his takedowns. He keeps it off

1249
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 9: to the side so he can't get choked. Hermanson's actually

1250
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 9: got that Tito Ortez top game inside the guard, which

1251
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 9: I feel like he moves too much in the guard

1252
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 9: to try to advance position. I want him to stay

1253
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 9: there and just blast him with elbows in the guard

1254
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 9: and the punches. I think he can pull this off.

1255
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 9: So I'm this is Harmanson's coming out party for me.

1256
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 9: I've got her Manson winning this in a decision.

1257
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 6: All right, Jack her Manson, the pick to click for

1258
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 6: Kyle and the Comaine two in a row for her

1259
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 6: Manson ken Floy. He's won four or five overall all

1260
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 6: of those finishes. David Branch is a beast right proven

1261
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 6: commodity is certainly more so in this equation. The only

1262
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 6: man to beat Thiago Santos during this crazy run to

1263
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 6: contention for mahet To at light heavyweight and that was

1264
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: a win by knockout for David Branch. But he's two

1265
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: and two in the second UFC stint. How do you

1266
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 6: see this one going down?

1267
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: Ken?

1268
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: Jeez, you know this is a tricky one. I think

1269
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: for her Manson, you know he's tough on the feet,

1270
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: he's very durable. I think he needs to fight that

1271
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: high pressure style against David and really try to back

1272
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: him up. I think Branch technically is better. I think

1273
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: he's way more dangerous on the ground. Not an easy matchup.

1274
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: This is another one that really could go either way.

1275
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: Her Manson's probably more durable, has a better chin, but

1276
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: I think Branch is way better on the ground.

1277
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with a guy that I used to

1278
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 7: train with, David.

1279
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 6: Branch, And in our scoring system, you do get underdog

1280
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 6: points for for David Branch if you are so incentivized.

1281
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 6: All right, main event Edson Junior Barbosa minus one fifty

1282
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 6: five justin the highlight Geechee Slide underdog plus one twenty five.

1283
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 6: Kyle will need the round and the method of victory.

1284
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: Here. Who do you like in the Philly Headliner?

1285
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 8: Kid?

1286
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 6: So?

1287
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 12: Can I have a second to give some shout outs

1288
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 12: to homies you can have like under Okay, Christopher, Sophie

1289
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 12: sokia At, Eric Keechty Conway, Josh Mighty Man, Drames, Jeremy This,

1290
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 12: Martin Vaughn, my two brothers in laws, Ryan and Peter,

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Speaker 12: my sister Kate, my two nephews Stephen Wanders and Jake Dibbs,

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Speaker 12: and of course my beautiful wife Nicole.

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Speaker 6: Yes, how many of those people will listen to the

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Speaker 6: anak Implorian podcast all.

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Speaker 9: Every fucking thingle on for a wife, she'll listen to

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Speaker 9: this one. Okay, she will listen to this one. Okay,

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Speaker 9: But so this one is h I love and hate

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Speaker 9: this five for two reasons. One because they're both to

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Speaker 9: some of my favorite fighters. I don't want to see

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Speaker 9: either of them get a set back. To tell you

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Speaker 9: the truth, I want them to both advance with this fight.

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Speaker 9: It's like what my wife says to me all the time.

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Speaker 9: I really hope this is gonna last longer than five minutes. Sorry,

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00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 9: this fight should be so much for MMA fans and

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00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 9: gobble up. I'm expecting at least somebody needing a wheelchair

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Speaker 9: for this fight. These two both have legal lethal leg

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Speaker 9: kick games and let's be honest, though Barboza is more technical,

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Speaker 9: but to tell you truth, justin Gage's doesn't give a shit,

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Speaker 9: which is my favorite thing. I mean, he'll throw it

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Speaker 9: with reckless abandon. I did notice with Gage's defense that

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Speaker 9: he is susceptible to body strikes with a shell up

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Speaker 9: and lean in style defense, which makes me nervous. That

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Speaker 9: is the main reason I've been going back and forth

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Speaker 9: on this fight. The two main reasons that I'm going

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Speaker 9: with Gagey to highlight on this one. Number one, this

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Speaker 9: fucking cornerman, Jason throw a little baby, you know what.

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Speaker 9: The UFC's paying his ass to be a corner man.

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Speaker 9: And number two, if you can believe it's actually Barbos's

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Speaker 9: striking defense that's gonna set me up or the edge.

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Speaker 9: He does have great leg leg kick checking, which is

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Speaker 9: gonna help him a little bit in this one, but

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Speaker 9: it's this punching defense that pushed me over the edge.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't faint enough for the crazy pressure that Barbos

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Speaker 9: has heard that Gaige's gonna put on, and he's very

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Speaker 9: susceptible straight punches. Barbosa looks to keep his hands up

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Speaker 9: next to the ears and he doesn't really pair him

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Speaker 9: very well or much at all, but which should be

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Speaker 9: a perfect style for Gaigee. Nah, you're fucking wrong. The

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Speaker 9: craziest thing is Gaigee actually throws his power hooks in

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Speaker 9: his overhand right with a forward trajectory. I think he

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Speaker 9: might be the only guy in the UFC that actually

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Speaker 9: has straight power hooks. I guess. I mean they're not

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Speaker 9: crossing their hooks, but they come in straight. So I've

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Speaker 9: got Gaigee going with this one. He's gonna split the

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Speaker 9: different difference and take away space and snaff crackle pop,

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Speaker 9: fucking nice Christy Trees second round, knockout for the high life.

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Speaker 9: And then after this fight, I will fucking Gaigee with that. Dude,

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Speaker 9: you got tattooed on your leg, and not the new

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Speaker 9: one coming in the old one, baby, I walk two

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Speaker 9: or nine. I want an idea, Carl McGregor right now,

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Speaker 9: and who the fuck is he? Nobody?

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Speaker 6: Well, you're Kyle hilarious if Seattle, my two UFC tickets

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Speaker 6: are yours.

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Speaker 5: Great job, buddy, Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 9: Dude, Thank you guys so much. Kenny, you're the man. John,

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Speaker 9: You're awesome.

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Speaker 7: You're the man.

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Speaker 6: See about Lund making a return appearance here on the

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Speaker 6: Anakin Flooring podcast. He got the shoutouts in and I

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Speaker 6: kind of like what he hit on. This might be

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Speaker 6: the wheelchair fight, Kenny, this main event, somebody probably gonna

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Speaker 6: end up in a wheelchair. Barbosa twenty first UFC star

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Speaker 6: for him, knockout of Dan Hooker back in December. Man,

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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 6: the voice is going right at the end of the show.

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Speaker 6: Gee Chee knocked out James Vick as well. That was

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Speaker 6: in August in the main event in Lincoln, Nebraska, huge

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Speaker 6: lightweight headliner on ESPN Live this Saturday night. The world

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Speaker 6: wants to know on which side this can flow fall.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, he had some decent analysis there, for sure.

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Speaker 1: He just got Jason Prillo wrong. And Jason Pirillo doesn't

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Speaker 1: corner him. Come on, Kyle Geez alright, well listen. You

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Speaker 1: know I think that there's no doubt that Geechee can

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Speaker 1: win that fight. Geechie has I think more knockout power

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Speaker 1: in my opinion with his hands than Edson Barbosa does.

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Speaker 1: He's a high pressure fighter and he's gonna need that

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Speaker 1: style if he wants to beat Edson Barbosa. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just like Ian said before, I mean I want to

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Speaker 1: see Gechie utilize his wrestling, even if he just uses

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Speaker 1: it once in a while, just something to kind of

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Speaker 1: give a different look to a fighter instead of being

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Speaker 1: too predictable. But Gechie is an absolute samurai. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy who knows exactly who he is. He's a

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Speaker 1: fucking warrior and he will either you know, knock you

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Speaker 1: out or get knocked out, and he has no problem

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Speaker 1: with either of those results. He's an absolute beast and

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Speaker 1: I love watching him fight, and it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great fight because of that.

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Speaker 7: Now with Eds and Barbosa, he has more weapons.

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Speaker 1: I think this is one of those fights that most

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Speaker 1: most likely he doesn't have to worry about the takedown,

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Speaker 1: and those are the kind of fights that Ed's and

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Speaker 1: Barbosa loses when he gets taken down, when he has

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Speaker 1: to fight on the ground, off of his back, when

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01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: he has to utilize a lot of energy to get

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Speaker 1: back to his feet. I think, as in Baro, Barbosa

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Speaker 1: needs to do two things. Beat up the legs of

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Speaker 1: Gaegee and beat up the body of Geigee. If he

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Speaker 1: does that, he could set up the head kick knock

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Speaker 1: a knockout. This is the benefit of going second, John,

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Speaker 1: I get to go the other way. If I think

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Speaker 1: it's a close fight, I'm gonna go the other way

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Speaker 1: with Edson Barbosa and try to pick up some points.

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Speaker 7: I'll go with a knockout in round three.

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Speaker 5: Round three, Edson Barboza by knockout.

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Speaker 6: You notice how we give you the floor to such

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Speaker 6: an extent that we drop the guest picker exactly they

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Speaker 6: wanted to get to hang on the line. No, of course,

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Speaker 6: that we want to give Ken Flow as much time

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Speaker 6: as possible without keeping that person on hold, and that

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Speaker 6: means they have to go back and listen to the podcast. Now,

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Speaker 6: the question is one of us got may Rocky bjj's

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Speaker 6: phone number incorrect, So we'll take that conversation off the

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Speaker 6: air and not board you any further.

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Speaker 5: But I really hope that I got it and Kyle

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Speaker 5: did not, or we're going to have some issues. All right, buddy,

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Speaker 5: We're back early next week. I'm gonna be in New

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Speaker 5: York City.

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Speaker 6: Nflow is going to be doing BattleBox, but we're going

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Speaker 6: to find a way to make it work somehow someway,

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Speaker 6: either late Monday maybe early Tuesday. As always, will keep

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Speaker 6: you posted on that on social media. Thank you all

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Speaker 6: for listening. UFC Fight Night this weekend Barbosa versus Gay Chee.

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Speaker 6: It's live Saturday Night on ESPN.

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Speaker 5: I hope you will tune in for that. With that

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Speaker 5: long go DeSantis, Kenflo John A saying thank you' all.

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Speaker 5: Have a great week. To talk to you in less

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Speaker 5: than seven days. Until then, you'll later.

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