WEBVTT - Fancy

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<v Speaker 1>Carola. She's a queen of talking. He was sown your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the side. She got the scoop on the

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<v Speaker 1>walls to walk on the ones to side. No one

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<v Speaker 1>can do with quiet like Carala, Carola. No one can

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<v Speaker 1>do with quiet like Carala. It is time for Caroline. Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you so much for tuning in with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest is Who Is Fancy And if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard of him yet, you will because he is a sensation.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a song out there with Ariana Grande and

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Trainer called Boys Like You and it's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>riveting and he is just fantastic. We laughed so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said before, we almost got attacked by a

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<v Speaker 1>spider and we survived. So that's any indication of how

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<v Speaker 1>this interview goes. Just get ready because it's a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>So please welcome Who Is Fancy and don't forget to

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<v Speaker 1>Join the fun. Every week every Wednesday will be coming

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<v Speaker 1>at you with a new episode. But here is Who

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<v Speaker 1>Is Fancy? Just a heads up, this is adults having

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<v Speaker 1>adult conversation, so there could definitely be some adult language

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<v Speaker 1>and content. Hello, what's up here? Is fancy fancy? Fancy Fancy?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it who is fancy? Or is it fancy? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I go by fancy in my day to day life,

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<v Speaker 1>but who is Fancy? Is that the full stage name?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? It started as a campaign and then it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turned into a stage name. But I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a little bit of a reinvention,

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<v Speaker 1>so as you you should be Okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start off a little bit of a game that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into, the whole campaign, the whole saga.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I'm letna say a word, you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that comes to mind. Crush Bradley Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good one, rustic man. Do you know how many

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<v Speaker 1>faces just flooded through my mind when you, Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking like my celebrity ones, but then I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>think about my real ones. I can't say that, okay

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<v Speaker 1>because people will actually know, Yeah, celebrity ones, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>really into that. You know. Let's just keep a country.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here in Nashville. Sorry, And there's dogs in this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast today. Because we're at my house and I have

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<v Speaker 1>three dogs and they're all obsessed with I love them too.

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<v Speaker 1>The feelings are mutual. Only the feelings between me and

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<v Speaker 1>these dogs were like the men. I'm about the name

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<v Speaker 1>and and me. It would be amazing. Life would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>The top five. Let's keep it country because I like

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<v Speaker 1>like the cowboy rest man. I learned that about you yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's true. Um, I made that cowboy blust didn't. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think he's not a cowboy, but he sings

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<v Speaker 1>country music. I think he's so hot. Brett Eldredge, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah's love him? Yes, um sam hut, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like hand on the face, like sweating. He is sexy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He's so hot and he's so nice. Yeah, just briefly

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<v Speaker 1>so nice. Did you like brush each other's arms or anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like a like a oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, and he was like like doing there's any

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<v Speaker 1>chance he could go the other way? You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to limit myself. I don't know. I'm if

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<v Speaker 1>any wants me to turn someone into yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>The weird thing is I can't get a gaymander flirt

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<v Speaker 1>with me to save my freaking life. Put me in

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<v Speaker 1>a room with like Tin ahead of her sexuals and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a circus. It's really weird. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Okay, So we got Brett Aldred, Sam Hunt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm gonna keep it old school. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Tim McGraw's oh super sexy, so sexy, such a dolf,

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<v Speaker 1>such a dol and faith is such a yes good,

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<v Speaker 1>they are good? Okay, anyone else? Um yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot, so many. Um. I just literally had

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<v Speaker 1>one that I'm not going to say say it no

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<v Speaker 1>because I know him like really well. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>he's like if he watches your podcast uncomfortable, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna say it because I'm like, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>losing my cool, you know what I mean. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get okay, but there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 1>you could like hang out with Brett for real or Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>I've met both of them. I've never hung out with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh get Moore is off so hot. He is very

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<v Speaker 1>good looking, like a lot of muscles, lots of muscles.

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<v Speaker 1>You must work out hours. I thought he can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>pick me up totally. Man, be a little shorter than

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<v Speaker 1>me though, that's okay. I have a rule about heights. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not six ft one, we ain't having fun

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<v Speaker 1>six ft one. You need that one inch you wan't

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<v Speaker 1>like what if it's like a dreamboat but he's six

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<v Speaker 1>ft um, Come on, I don't know. One inch would

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<v Speaker 1>ruin it for you. I just don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>taller than someone. Okay, So you like them to be

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<v Speaker 1>the man, it's not about being the man. I want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be like taller than me. But why because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just what I'm interested in. That's what I'm attracted to.

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<v Speaker 1>You like a manly man. Yeah, but their height doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're manly. I've met several tall men that are

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<v Speaker 1>not manly. So what it is about the height, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just like it. It's like your preference. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily wants to make out with you. The funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening here is Emmy lou is my one dog

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<v Speaker 1>who's throwing herself at fancy and he could care less.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sugar is my other dog who's kind of playing

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get, and that's the only one you want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, that's the story of my life, story

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. Oh my gosh. Okay, so style. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying a word. You say one word? Yeah? Is

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<v Speaker 1>your one word? Oh? I forgot. We were playing that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what about it? I forgot? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Let's start over. Taylor Swift, Oh good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love these crop tops. She's doing well. I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>We never go out of style. We never go out style. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. Get like some urban in your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like some soul. Yeah, I love it. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear all about that later. Okay. Happiness yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do. Your house is yellow. I love yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yellow is my favorite. UM bucket list Um Africa Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to go to all the continents though,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe just travels to the world. I should should

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<v Speaker 1>have said, okay in the first place, Africa, though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's probably the last place I could

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<v Speaker 1>see myself. So what do you mean, the last place.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'd be doing in Africa, So

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe if I was like in Africa, be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing the world, right, Okay, Okay, awesome. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to African amazing. Race was pretty balm. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the Amazing Race. I think you do. I can

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<v Speaker 1>hook you up. Yes, I think i'd be good on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you'd be great. Are you at a

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<v Speaker 1>season in your life where you can do it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me suggest you. Okay, great. Another casting agents like,

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<v Speaker 1>how much running do you really do? An amazing Wait

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into this, A lot. It's the most

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity I've ever done in my whole life, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people do it, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You just have to mentally decide you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. And sometimes, oh my gosh, go on girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's sometimes it is really exhausting. Yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. But you could do it, you know, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be it'd be fun to check that off your list. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a good Amazing Race, would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good buck work on that. Yeah, it's a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to travel the word. I'm also scared of flying though.

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<v Speaker 1>Running and flying are like two main ingredients of Amazing Race. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>are you abow to take xan X while you're on them?

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<v Speaker 1>They're really strict about pills. You can't take any pills? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't maybe not? Maybe Amazing Race isn't my outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's maybe you should do survivor? Can you do

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<v Speaker 1>an X one Survivor? They're really strict about like over

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<v Speaker 1>the account. They won't even do over the counter pills.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, I had to beg to take units on

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping pill because I cannot sleep on planes and that's

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<v Speaker 1>over the counter. But it was like pulling teeth to

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<v Speaker 1>get that approved. Wow, that's crazy, Okay, um Icon, how

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<v Speaker 1>does she do it? I don't know. She's perfect in

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<v Speaker 1>every way, every way, every way the best. She's really

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<v Speaker 1>the best. She's the best. Do you think your dreams

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<v Speaker 1>would be shattered if she and jay Z got divorced? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know that my dreams would

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<v Speaker 1>be shattered. I mean, if Beyonce hurts, I hurt un

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like how it is. So maybe i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I think i'd be upset form Beyonce. But like space,

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<v Speaker 1>she's Beyonce. How did she become Beyonce? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you see that there's a gift online of

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a little short video clip of she was

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<v Speaker 1>on the View and will Be Goldberg literally goes, she

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<v Speaker 1>goes your Beyonce, and Beyonce's response was, thank you. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that? I just want to get to a

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<v Speaker 1>phase in my life when people just say my name,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's a compliment. It's just yes, you receive it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am this is me. Yes, thank you. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>have a name like Beyonce fancy fancy, which could be

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<v Speaker 1>a compliment. It was like, you are fancy, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe i'm the practice you're fancy. Thank you. That

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<v Speaker 1>hair flip is okay, discuss sting fish. You don't like fish,

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<v Speaker 1>you should work on that. I used to like fish

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. Really. Yes, it's a texture thing. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not anything to do with the taste. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the texture. Huh. Okay. Boobs hmm. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gross? I don't think they're gross, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have you ever like seen any Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever like touched me? Yeah, I've probably seen more boobs

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<v Speaker 1>than like heterosexual man because girls just like but you

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<v Speaker 1>have You've never been interested in boobs, No, not even once. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you never wanted to motor boat those things. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely motor boat boobs you have. Yeah, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>for like shocking off. I'm like my best friend now

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<v Speaker 1>the Osborne you know her, There's no way I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. Like that's just like did you

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<v Speaker 1>like it? I mean, there's nothing to like. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like just like blobs of fat. It's not even like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, what are we gonna do these ducks?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, look at that phase. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you'all can see her face, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. I don't she has RBF rest. She totally

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<v Speaker 1>has resting bitch face. I don't know to do them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we decided to do the interview er here,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot I had three dogs. I think they're adding

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Okay, as long as you're okay with I

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<v Speaker 1>love them. Um, yeah, so you motor boat to boobs

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<v Speaker 1>and it was yeah, I mean I don't Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm on phase by like, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in what context? I mean like a good juicy butt

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<v Speaker 1>like Beyonce. But yeah, I can appreciate like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>butt on boys angirls. Okay, Um music love your true love.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's my life. Yeah, like I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>you really, like I literally I always have some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like song coming through my head always always? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you record them in your phone? Sometimes sintimes not? I

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<v Speaker 1>have a wild memory. Really yeah, I have a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to like lyrics, and like my own

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics are like um, like songs I'm creating. I rarely

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<v Speaker 1>write anything down. My publishers hate me. You remember the

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<v Speaker 1>whole song. I remember a lot of things, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're writing a lot of songs. That's crazy. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into your life. Your name is

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob how good? How do you say it? Hey? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey good? Hey, I'm good good. That's your real name.

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<v Speaker 1>You're born in Arkansas into a Christian household. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about that because you're openly gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that um an issue with your family growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean growing up. I didn't come out of the

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<v Speaker 1>closet until I was twenty years old now, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just recently came out four years ago, almost five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you always is no, you're gay? Yeah? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know if I have I ever

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<v Speaker 1>always had a name for it. I think I always knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, like, you know, in like third grade to

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<v Speaker 1>be like all the boys were friends and I was around,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'd be like one of these things isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the other. You know, That's just kind of how it felt.

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<v Speaker 1>But the more and more I started being able to

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<v Speaker 1>identify it and knowing what it was, I definitely it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely like, Okay, did you ever day girls? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like guess and no kind of did just maybe trying it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was really good at like playing like the

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<v Speaker 1>Christian boy next door, like I can't even kiss me,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly, that's for that's for the Lord. Oh but

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<v Speaker 1>really that wasn't. Yeah, I was just like I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like going on in my head about like

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<v Speaker 1>what did the families say when you said him coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a difficult transition. But my family,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean my parents have always been my

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<v Speaker 1>support and my rock and have always supported me in

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<v Speaker 1>every end ever I've ever gone into. And um, when

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<v Speaker 1>I came out of the closet, it didn't I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like I think it was hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, but it was more of like, um, looking

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<v Speaker 1>back at it now, it's kind of like being able

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<v Speaker 1>to see like how close to me and my family

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<v Speaker 1>are now, And like I think It's something that brought

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<v Speaker 1>us all closer because it opened up a whole door

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<v Speaker 1>of like conversations that just were never had. When you

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in like a Christian household, so many things

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<v Speaker 1>are so taboo, and so many things they're like not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, allowed to talk about them. And now it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know that an elephant in the

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<v Speaker 1>room was discussed in such a large scale. And not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, now I stand on a higher pedestal where

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<v Speaker 1>it's not only people in my family, people anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>knows me because I'm gay and like my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people in Arkansas know my family, have me and their family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think for my I think for my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know about my sisters, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of the first, like openly gay people

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<v Speaker 1>that they had a relationship with them. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've met gay people before, but it wasn't like they

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<v Speaker 1>had like a relationship with people. And that's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing because in Nashville and l A and all the

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<v Speaker 1>like the big cities that you know, we live in,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a big like no one even it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a thing, you know, no one even cares. But

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<v Speaker 1>in smaller towns. You forget that it still is this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I grew up in Arkansas and there definitely was

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<v Speaker 1>a divide. And like it's funny because even in the

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<v Speaker 1>short time of me coming out and or dropped. I

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<v Speaker 1>drapped out of high school because I was bullied so

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<v Speaker 1>badly and for being flamboyant and for being different. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I moved to Nashville right away. My parents supported

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<v Speaker 1>that and we're you know, one on board, had no

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<v Speaker 1>qualms and did what they had to do to help

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<v Speaker 1>me get out of that. And um, moved to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents drove me here. Oh seventeen, didn't know anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and they drove me here. And yeah, I come I

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<v Speaker 1>come from really good people. And I think when I

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the closet that just um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>when like trying times, I think that's when you really

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<v Speaker 1>see people's character. I really learned what good people my

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<v Speaker 1>family were, or my family are, because it's like with

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<v Speaker 1>my dad and my mom, it's like they're Christians and

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<v Speaker 1>like they believe in, you know, the Christian faith and

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<v Speaker 1>God and all that stuff and didn't change their faith

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I don't know. I think it made it

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<v Speaker 1>stronger because I think I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>legalistic stuff that gets caught up in religion and opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and the way people live their life and the way

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<v Speaker 1>people judge each other. I mean, the Bible specifically talks

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and it's like anti that. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you know people don't like about Christianity kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comes from that a human form of trying to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I don't really dive into all

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<v Speaker 1>that religious stuff anymore. That's definitely like in my past.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, love and be loved. I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to love people. I want to be nice, I

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<v Speaker 1>want I want to be kind. I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. Like, why do we have to box

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<v Speaker 1>everyone into like putting rules and boxes on people. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes too much energy to be mean, it does, and

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<v Speaker 1>what's the point of it anyway, just because someone is

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<v Speaker 1>different than you. I have a hard time with that too.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that being said, I do respect all

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<v Speaker 1>religions of faith, and if anyone's dogma, I I totally

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<v Speaker 1>am respectful. And um, you're just getting back. I look

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<v Speaker 1>up to my parents more now because I really feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they put their faith to the test when I

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the closet, and truly, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>truly showed you know, what they say they believe. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they were walking the talk, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you don't often see that. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I just have a giant amount of respect for

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<v Speaker 1>my parents and a very deep love for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's I know it's a vice versa. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to my dad and my mom every day on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Yeah, that's best. Good for you for just

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<v Speaker 1>going for it and put an authentic home for like

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<v Speaker 1>three months. I lived in Nashville when I came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like it was hard. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like I didn't know if. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real way to deal with this head on,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just moved home for your months and dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with it head on the way to do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the longer you live with like suppressing yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>the more it comes outsideways. Oh for sure. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>go you Okay, So I want to get to your

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<v Speaker 1>music video, which you'd cover a lot of topics in

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<v Speaker 1>and goodbye before I kind of start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very like O C D. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss a step. So you got your stage name Fancy

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<v Speaker 1>because you worked at Forever twenty one, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you had come out and into your own and you

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<v Speaker 1>started wearing makeup and painting your nails and being fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>And one was definitely like I love there Forever twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge part of your story. Yeah, so it's definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely the first like, um, a safe place

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<v Speaker 1>you can be whatever you want there. Well yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like it's, um, it's just an environment where like

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<v Speaker 1>fashions like the thing, and like, yeah, I like you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to, like yeah, you're able to just like express yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And like it was the first time I worked I

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<v Speaker 1>was around like other openly gay men like my whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean obviously growing up in Arkansas, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>around that. And then I when I moved here, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a Christian college, so like I wasn't around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this was the first place where I really

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<v Speaker 1>had like openly gay friends. And it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember one of my managers was joking with

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<v Speaker 1>me because like the first like two or three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>I worked there, I kept doing like like you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gay, right, And I just kept saying it and

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<v Speaker 1>she feels so good. Yeah, because I just wanted everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I would like, may people like, well, I'm gay,

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<v Speaker 1>and like everyone's just going like no, ship like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of funny because my manager was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we really have to tell people that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just feel like they need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was so passionate about just like because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first place. Yeah, and then in turn, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to do the whole music thing and

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<v Speaker 1>like my forever twenty one peeps that were there. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the first year I worked there was just so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked in the cool Springs one and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>crew was just I mean we worked together, we partied together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just like a cool I'm sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just it makes look expensive, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like for every twenty one. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>a really great place for me to really start discovering

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<v Speaker 1>who I am, because when you're like nineteen twenty and like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a crucial part of like finding yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was so much going on for me as a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old just came out of the closet, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there was just so much going on in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>in my life and to have that outlet and those

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<v Speaker 1>people around me that were just kind of so carefree

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<v Speaker 1>and non judgmental and just fun and living life in

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<v Speaker 1>the big city of Nashville, because Nashville was a big

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<v Speaker 1>city to me. Yeah, when I moved from Arkansas, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't think I had driven on a

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<v Speaker 1>highway before I moved here, so crazy. Yeah, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a really cool like launching pad for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I was trying to do the whole music thing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>all the conversations around town always had to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>my sexuality well you know that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like I was trying to think, like

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, like how can I get around that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is something I can do to like make it

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<v Speaker 1>a Nolan Wood like thing? So what was it? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I started wearing makeup, doing my nails, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like just by appearance, people would just automatically no,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't a conversation to have and all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and that kind of didn't work. And then but

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<v Speaker 1>I liked who I was wearing my makeup and doing

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<v Speaker 1>my nails and having my hair every which color and um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was like, this is your natural color right now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my natural color right now. It looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a little red lead bread rounds beautiful. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of one of my coworkers for twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>and would always because the Drake song was popular then

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<v Speaker 1>fancy and I would walk in just like done. It

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be like, oh you fancy Hunt, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>fancy Hunt. I was kind of and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it caught on for me because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like for the first time someone was calling me

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<v Speaker 1>a name that I was like, you know what, go out,

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<v Speaker 1>damn strain it. That's me. I am fancy. It's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I am. And so I did my first shows

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<v Speaker 1>fancy and sold out and it was just like this wild,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy night and you hadn't really no one even really

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<v Speaker 1>knew who you were before then. I mean I had

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<v Speaker 1>spent a good year going around calling myself fancy before

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<v Speaker 1>I did the show, so like, wow, the industry was curious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they all, I mean, it's sold out and people

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<v Speaker 1>just were kind of like I was rapping at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like really crazy and wild and um, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just yeah, it was like kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>weird moment in time, but it was it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like validation that you're on the right track. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the moment where I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do this and I can do it as me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually made enough money at that show to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to like like stopped working as much of

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<v Speaker 1>her twenty one and like keep like, um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the first one I was paid to do a show,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like crazy yeah. And then I was like

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<v Speaker 1>because like at that point, like I think I made

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<v Speaker 1>like two grand, which is like that's a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for a show in Nashville. It's a big deal when

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<v Speaker 1>you're making like you know what I mean. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, like someone and I'm like what

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<v Speaker 1>the goal? And then I go to the let No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not something. It's like there's your one month re

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, you can stay here for them creating to

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<v Speaker 1>the gold like you're ready. Yeah, yeah, my bags and

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Hermitage were passed, but but no, it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>really freshman one was a really special place for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you always know you wanted to saying like you

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<v Speaker 1>were you in bands and choir or something or that.

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<v Speaker 1>Always I mean, even when I was little, if you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me what I wanted to be, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>it was the answer was always a superstar. You're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people just know when you're called for it.

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I don't. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what everyone else believes, but like, I definitely think

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<v Speaker 1>my life was kind of like ordained, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I definitely have a purpose and my soul

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>has a purpose, and I feel like this whole fancy

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've really I feel I've really tapped into like

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<v Speaker 1>my life's purpose of just preaching individuality and being being

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<v Speaker 1>love and light and you know, just doing me and

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that other people. I grew up in a situation

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>where that wasn't always an option, and maybe like me

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>putting my music out there and me putting myself out

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>there in this situation will open up doors for kids

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<v Speaker 1>like me in those places that don't have that option

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and don't have that outlet. Maybe they see that, like

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they can be what they want to be and they

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>can do what they want to do, and maybe they're

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>not fancy but they are unique and they are special

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and they can they can let that part of them.

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it hard for you as a kid, not being

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>able to be yourself? Oh my god, yeah I was.

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean I got buoyed from such a young age.

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it was just like I remember I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth grade and some kid like held me down

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, why do you only hang out

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>with girls? And I was seeing to myself, like I

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything, so I was like terrified, but I

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.360
<v Speaker 1>see to myself, it's better than hang out with you,

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like that kind of moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like my whole life it's been like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, I mean living in Nashville, Like it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a cool feeling to know I can go to

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Red Door or Rebar or wherever I'm going winners losers

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and like Santa's pud, Like no, I'm gonna walk in there,

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and like my sexuality does not matter. It's not even

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 1>a conversation. Yeah. And I have so many friends of

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<v Speaker 1>so many walks of life and so many I mean,

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Nashville has just been such a great place for me.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think people think of Nashville is like

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<v Speaker 1>a very like open whatever. But like, um, I don't

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>wear my sexuality on my sleep. That's not what makes

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>me unique. It's not what makes me different. My personality,

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>my vibrance, my um, the way I see things, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes me different. And I think people in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>the people I'm friends with and people have grown to

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>love here, have really celebrated me for that. And I

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>feel so comfortable in the city. And this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I like to be. I like to go out here,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to have fun here. It's just it's just

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.719
<v Speaker 1>such a light place, you know what I mean. It is.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>That's such a great way of saying it. Whenever anyone

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>asked me about Nashville, I always just I'm like exuberant

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>about it because I feel I feel like it's magical.

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's so many creative people here. Everyone

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is competing with themselves. I don't know if anyone's competing

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>with each other. You know. I live in Los Angeles now,

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and I always come back to Nashville. I rea things

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>are it's always and you know, I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not I don't like I'm saying this on

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like record, but it's like in l A. I feel

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's hard to be like really good friends with

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>people that do what you do. I mean, my my

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>closest friends and l A are all dancers, and like

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're all creative, we're all in the same space,

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but we don't do the same thing. And it's like,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>um here all of my best friends are and in

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the music bits and they're all doing what I do.

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>They're writers, they're artists there, but there's no competition, there's

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>no there's no jealousy. I mean, like everyone roots for

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>each other. Yeah, I mean this is the same the

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>same week, like things in my career started kind of

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>having like like you know, dip and that's just so

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows everyone's career is that way. There's eyes and love,

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. The one week my career is in a low,

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>my friends were all in Los Angeles because they were

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>all nominated for Grammys, and it's like I could not

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 1>be anymore proud and seeing my friends being celebrated in

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>way it made me feel like I was getting nominated

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 1>for a Grammy. Because some of your friends are Megan Trainer,

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Brothers Osborne, You've got like a laundry list of important friends.

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah exactly. And the thing that I love

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>about those friendships is if you took music out of it,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>those are still my homies. Those are still your friends

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>with them before any of y'all had stuff going on.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never been written a song with Brothers Osborne. I've

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>never written a song with case of Scrapes. Like that's

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>music is not what binds us. It's like, those people

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>are my friends because I like who they are, they

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>like who I am, and it's just kind of like

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna make you want to cry a little bit. Yeah,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. When in Los Angeles, like I was,

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I was working, I was doing like some like work

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>for E I did like the red Carpet after party

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>with Ross Matthews, who's my favor I love him. Tell

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>him to hire me to psychic Yeah, this podcast straight

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Talk is the best, and I was on that. It

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>was so so much fun. He's the best. Yeah. So

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I did that, and I was like mom, because like,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Brothers Osborne, their sister Natalie, who's my best

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>friend the entire world. And Lucy was another one of

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>my best friends, Lucy so John osborneborn Um. They were

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>all there at the Grammys and I was like, they're

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>going to that party and I'm only invited to this party.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>And like, Umnwie, there's a spider on your couch where look? Oh,

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>let's just throw it. I don't know, Sugar, do you

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's when you've been staring at that? I was

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>wondering when you're staring. Well, I saw on the wall

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, as long as it's there, I'm good,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm fine. But it started crawling towards you on

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the couch and I got nervous. So I was like

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you like you're like in like Jurassic Park over here

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>or something. No, you don't understand. Like I love dogs,

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I love them, spiders not so much. It was a

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>daddy long like, I don't think it can bide us

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the most poisonous. I think that was proven wrong on MythBusters,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but I might be high, Sugar, Okay, so you want

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to this party? Yeah? Natal? The n t

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>J were texting me and John and we're all we're

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>all like a thread for like hanging in that weekend

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>in l A. And they were like, are you coming

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>out tonight? And I was just like I'm not. Like

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like I can't get into those parties, like

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going to this and I'm on these lists and

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you're on those lists, and they were like we'll figure

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it out, just like come meet us. And so like

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm in like my rose gold like sequin kimono, like

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>floor lenk, just like running through downtown Los Angeles trying

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to find like the seven eleven they were apart that

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and then because like you know, when you're nominated for

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a Grammy, I guess they give you a driver in

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a car to like just drive you wherever, and so

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the right I've never had that luxury. So one day,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like they're like, we're at the seven eleven

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>on like this and the corner of this and this,

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>we're just waiting for you and so like and like

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it was pandemonium downtown and so I'm like they're like

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like running like trying to like figure out where they are,

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and we finally find him and I got in that car.

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I got in their suburban and like I was saying,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 1>like shotgun and they were on the back and like

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>just turning around and seeing like four of the best

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>humans on earth like just like all dressed up and

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>like I literally about I'm about to cry now, Like

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I literally was just like I was like this, and

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>all of your friends are authentically living their dreams and

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>following their passion. And not only that, they're supporting me

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and doing the same thing every high, every low. They're

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>my friends regardless. Those people would still be my friends

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>if I worked for every twenty one. And that's what's

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>beautiful about it. Is like I got in that car

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and like just knowing the week I had, in the

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>month I've had, and like it's been it's been low.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, it hasn't been the most like glamorous of times.

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<v Speaker 1>And to get in that car and to know that

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.959
<v Speaker 1>those people that are like so talented and so like

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>just crazy good. You know, they were sitting at seven

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven waiting on my ass to get there before they

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>went to that party. It just I don't know. It

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>was this point. It's the point of life exactly. I

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.719
<v Speaker 1>was like this and this moment, this is what matters.

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is no record deal, no record deal, no

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>management company, no song, nothing could take this moment from

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>me because those things are temporary. This is what matters.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>You know. I love that and I love of our friends.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I admire you guys from a farm. I'm trying to

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>weez them away in there. Your angl come on in.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>We're very welcoming. I know. I'll just start showing up,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>will start texting it. Yeah. Um, you were discovered by

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Scooter Braun, who's Justin Bieber's manager, Scott Proshe and Dr Luke.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? You know? Girl? I think, like

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, trilogy of intense. Yeah, so Big Machine signed

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>me first, I signed as a writer to a big machine. Um.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>They put me in a joint venture with Dr Luke.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I started writing with Luke. Um, what about that scandal

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>going on with him? I have no comment. I'm dying

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to know the truth. Yeah. I don't know the truth either.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't know. You guys write songs, Dr Luke? Yeah,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Max Martin, Yeah, I've written with Yeah Pinching. Who are you?

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the top of the top. Yeah, I mean it's crazy.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I was right. I worked with them for the g

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>r L record. It was a girl band and um,

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I worked with them on that project and it was

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing time. I learned a lot. But who

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I am as a writer and even furthermore an artist,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and what I wanted, and um, I talked Dr Luke

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and Big Machine even though they weren't quite sure about

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>my artist's ambition and all that stuff. I mean, the

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Big Machines always been super supportive of me no matter

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>what I can. They found a writer. Well, I was

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>an artist doing my shows as a rapper, and it

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>was just you had your two thousand dollars, that's where

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Big Machines tall you. Well, it was like three shows

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>after that, that's where they found me. And I had

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>met with Mike a couple of times before and he's

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just he's just an amazing person. And um, so he

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>signed me to Big Machine Music and then run Publishing's

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>publishing a Big Machine and then he's the best, and

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>um he signed me to the joint venture with Dr

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Luke bea. So how did that happen? Um, they had

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>started they had been talking about starting a joint venture

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Becka Tisker who runs Prescription Music. She's she's wonderful, She's wonderful,

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and then um, um so her and Mike started to venture.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>They put one artist writer in and then I was

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the second one to be signed. So um it was

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of nice and like my first trip to l A.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I was writing with Luke and my second trip. I

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was at this point, No, I think I cried every

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>single day, Like I was just kind of so confused.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And then, um, the more and more, the more and

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>more I was in l A and writing for the people,

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the more I was kind of like, I don't know

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>if this is my gig. I'm an artist and I

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>need to get back to that, because that's how I

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.479
<v Speaker 1>got signed, was doing my shows and so you were

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>writing just strictly as a writer. It must be a

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>badass writer to hang with Dr Luke and being rooms

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>with other artists and Max, I mean that's you must

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>hold your weight, you know. I love writing, it is

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my passions. But I write my stories,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like I have a hard time

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>giving those stories to other people. And when when when

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the stars aligned? And like the situations right, like, of

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>course I write for other people, and if I'm passionate

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>about UM projects, I obviously definitely want to write on them.

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, I just had my own artist ambition

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and was very important to me and always will be.

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So I convinced them to do a showcase and then um,

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>at that show. At my first show in l A.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>It was at Hotel Cafe, which is a very big deal.

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like we're it's like the up and coming people.

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's performed there. Everyone. So I did it there and

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a great crowd and um, a lot of

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>people came out and that week, um my um, one

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of scooters managers on his company reached out and we

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>went and met and that's where I signed there, And

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it happened quickly. It was all pretty quick. Yeah, you

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of had a dream situation. I have had a

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>whirlwind past three years. Yeah. I signed a big machine

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>three years ago, moved to town pretty much or two

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>years after moved to town. Yeah, like starting into my

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>third year, big deal. Yeah, and starting in my third year,

0:34:52.440 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and then um, it's back, it's back. It's Oh I

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>killed it. Oh my gosh. I was not trying to

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>kill it. For the record, I really want I was

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>not trying to kill so funny, Okay everyone, are you

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>afraid of spiders? I hate spiders? Yeah? Oh my god.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So it happened really fast for you, because not everyone

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened that fast. I mean it was, I mean yeah,

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>so you clearly got to your authentic self quickly. I

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes people have to get to town, explore

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>for a while, try things on like you were already

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>ready to go, you had it all. I mean, I

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>think I just always let the music speak, and I

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's what everyone's always seen as, like the music.

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>And um, I think I've had to figure out a

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff along the way, and each year has

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>been a new lesson learned. And I'm just I feel

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just getting stronger and stronger and stronger and

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>better and better and better. And um, I mean tell

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>me something. Lessons you learn? Oh my word. I mean

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a season in my life right now where

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>i just feel like I've learned everything. You know what,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what the biggest lesson I've learned through this

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>whole process. Nobody is my end all be all. I

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>will be done when I say I'm done. And that's

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel. And yeah, I mean I've had

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people tell me no. I mean just

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds like, you know, it happened like

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this and it was overnight and great. I had a

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people tell me no. I had a lot

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of people tell me this isn't gonna happen for you.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't belong in this town. This isn't you know.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>You're not a writer, you're not an artist. You'll never

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>make it on Top forty radio and stuff like that.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Really like just kind of inspires me because it's like

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it lights a fire and I'm like, you know what,

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Because someone told me I wouldn't make it in Nashville,

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the National is too big of a city. I moved there.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I did it. Someone told me I'd never get a

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>publishing deal. Did that. Then it was like, you're not

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>really an artist. Okay, got signed as an artist, and

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like you don't know if Top forty is your avenue.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 1>My first single went Top forty. It's goodbye. Yeah. And

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>then and now it's kind of like I'm in a

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>spot where it's like, um, who I want to be

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>as an artist and what I want to do is

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is being questioned and up for whatever, and um, I'm

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just ready to take I'm just ready to take the

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>reins myself. And do you know the direction you want

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to go? Yes, very much, So tell me about it, um,

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And I want to talk about your past. I wanna

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 1>talk about goodbye and Megan Trainer, and tell me about

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 1>where you're going. This record I've been putting together. It's

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fun, it's young, it's rhythmic, it's honest, it's very open.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it all out there. I mean, it's about love,

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>loss and heartbreak, steamy situations, it's about it's all in it,

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like, I'm this, this is my journal,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to all be like very much answerable.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I want people. I want people my age relate to.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I want people younger than me to relate to. I

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>want people order than me to relate to it. And um,

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a very lively um ethereal cardinal um rhythmic

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>tribal situation. Oh girl, it's like passion and appetite. I

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like the cardinal cardinal. Okay, I love that. So what

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>about when you put your song out Goodbye. You did

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>this whole campaign which was really freaking cool, and how

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>did you pull it off? I don't know. We're basically like,

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't ever show who you are. You did like

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>videos all over the internet with other people lip syncing

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>your song, and then you had your big debut on

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Fallon who's the best. He's wonderful and you like

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>turn around your blue glitter and and I was like,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>here is fancy. But after like months of no one

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>knowing who you were, how did you come up with

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that plan? Um? That plan was decided once I signed

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>into Scooter braun sp Projects and my manager Olivia then

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>manager Olivia and U Republic, And it was the marketing

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>plan that got put in place. And did you like

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that marketing plan? Yeah? I really loved the idea of

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it not being about anything other than the song and

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the music, and um, I was into it. And of

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>course when you it was my first record deal, you know,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you're you're kind of just like anxious and eager and

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 1>will do anything, so that was a good distinction. Yeah.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was just kind of like they went with it.

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It went, you know, it was just kind of over

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of a rapid fire thing that just

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of happened, and um, yeah it was really cool.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>The Fallon thing was the first time that I was

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>literally just like he was blown away by you. He's amazing,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>He's so wonderful. How is he so wonderful? Oh? I

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's one of my crushes going back to

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, good throw him on there. Yeah, he's he

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>was just so kind and sweet and um, everything he

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>is on his show, he was in real life. So

0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was an amazing experience and um yeah,

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm super I'm super grateful for every experience I've encountered,

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>this whole fought, this whole, this whole time. I mean

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean it's easy to like say, like when

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>things aren't going right or when you know things aren't

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>looking good, it's easy to be jaded or like look

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>back on it and be like, well, you know, I

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have done this, we shouldn't have done that. But

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not me. And this whole past year and a

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>half since getting signed and having everything happened for me

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>has been a whirlwind. I mean it has. I can

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>say I've done things that a lot of up and

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>coming artists don't always get the chance to say they've done.

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>What are some of those things I mean I did?

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I did fallon my song went top forty on radio. Um,

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I went on tour with Ariana Grande and Megan t Yeah,

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>and then Ariana Megan both saying on my on my

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>second single we performed on Dancing with the Stars. I mean,

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I've had a dream situation. I mean a lot of

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>people don't do that in a year and a half,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>and um, I can say I did. And I've learned

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I feel like I've been through a very

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>extreme boot camp, and I know I'm a better artist,

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm a better writer, and i know

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a better person because of the experiences I've gone

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>through this past year and a half. And no one

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>can take that from me. So it's like moving forward

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and leaving a lot of that behind. As far as

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>like work goes, it's it's exciting. I feel free, I

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>feel invigorated. I feel like I feel like this is

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>just the beginning. And do you feel like now maybe

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know things you would say no to, like you

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>said as a new artist, And I can told when

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I walked into my first management meeting, which was I mean,

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not even about saying yes, it's just about wanting

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>something so bad and it's like, you know, you see it.

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>You you see it with your own eyes, what your

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 1>future is like, what you want for yourself, and like

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, people were like, yeah, I get it, you

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>know talent, yes, but but it's like I walked in

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 1>there was three five pounds. I was I had one

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>song to my artist repertoire. Everything else was written for

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>other people, had one song that I had written for myself.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And I walked in. I was like, here's this. I'm

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>ready to be an artist, please and thank you. You

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean in and it's like, now, I

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>mean the experiences I've had and like the lessons I've learned,

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and the songs I have and the music I've created,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and the people I've met along the way. I mean,

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going to shake me moving forward,

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Like walking into a management meeting or walking into a

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>label meeting. I know what I need, I know what

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm worth, and I know what I deserve. And it's

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 1>like those are things that are priceless. Yeah, it's it's

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to know those things. And and I'm not

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>working with Scooter Brown anymore. I'm not working with Republic anymore.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>But um, those relationships are positive and everything was it

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>was an amlicable split, and um, I'm one grateful and

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>appreciative and of the experiences given to me this past

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>year and a half. It's so interesting that you say that,

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like this industry prepares but you said

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>nothing can shake you, Like it's hard for something to

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>shake you. This industry rowse you into so many situations,

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>with so many walks of life. I feel like a

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>big thing that happened to me was I had to

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>let go of like trying to control stuff or trying

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to control outcomes, or trying to like, you know, have

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.959
<v Speaker 1>my hand like heavily on stuff because there's so many

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>moving pieces. When you're really committed to the entertainment industry, definitely,

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you've learned how to just kind

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of surrender it over like work hard. I mean so

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>much of the process. I mean literally why my song

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>was on radio. I was underground, like not even allowed

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk who I was about who I was, And

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a hard process. And like it was

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>like I kept remembering, if if I can get through this,

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, and then there'd be one more thing that

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was just like rattled me to the core. And then

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>there'll be after I got through that, there'd be another

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>thing that just rattled me to the core, and after

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that something else, and after that something else. And having

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 1>friends like Megan Trainer and Brothers Osborne and Casey. I mean,

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I've seen all of them go through similar situations, you know,

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like I've learned a lot from a

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people from who have who are way greater

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>than me and have done using things, and um, what

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>have you learned from them? How to handle those situations?

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just knowing that my situation is not uncommon

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and and things I'm going through aren't like unique to me,

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have a bad habit as I think a

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of artists and creative people do to make things

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>personal and it's like this is an attack on me

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>when it's like, no, it's not. It's this is what's

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>happening currently, and if it wasn't, you would be this person,

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>or it has happened to everyone else, And just knowing

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that like everyone's road has been bumpy, it's not no one's.

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>No one's road to success was gold, you know. It's

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's always high, like we talked about earlier,

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>it's highs and lows and being able to see my

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>friends go through those highs and lows. I mean, Brothers

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Osbourne is just celebrated their first number one and it's

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like a very long road, and it's so inspiring to

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>me when that song went number one, when they got

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>nominated for a Grammy as someone who's watching from afar,

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like, it makes me want to go to the

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>studio and work a little bit harder. It makes me

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>want to go to those meetings and listen a little

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>more intently. It makes me it makes me want to

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>work on myself and my art and my and my

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>passion in your vision. Yeah, it makes me want to

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>go there. It makes me want to like continue when

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>so many times this industry put stuff on you that

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of like, I could do without this,

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Like what is this? Like this is not what I

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 1>signed up for? But don't you think it is not

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 1>what we signed up for. It's like no one knows

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that break that down. There's all this stuff that goes

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>with being an artist that no one knows about. This's

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>not glamorous. Yeah, it's like glamorous bullshit bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit,

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>more bullshit bullshit, bullshit, glamour bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit,

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>glamour bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullit. Everyone thinks you make, you

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>get a record deal in your life is just made

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in the shade. Yeah, and I mean it. It's awesome.

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong. I was gonna say, it's like,

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else in this world I'd rather be doing

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>than what I'm doing now. In every high and every low,

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I try to remind myself that. But I mean, there's

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>just some situations that happen where you're just kind of like,

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>because I am a writer, I could pack all this up.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I could go be in Nashville, in a city I love,

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 1>with the people I love, and write songs every day

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and that could be my life. You'd be happy and

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I would be happy. Um, but you feel you're being

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 1>called to do that I have. I think I have

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>something that i have to do and I'm not going

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to stop until I've done it. Speaking of your platform,

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>one really awesome thing you did with your with your

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>music video video Goodbye, you really covered some serious topics.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Why what what made you want to do that? Because

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a big, brave, awesome move that you did. You

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hit on a lot of things I'm so tired of

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in this industry and in this world, people having getting

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to have opinions about other people based off things that

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>don't pertain to them. It's like someone wants to talk

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>about my sexuality, my my femininity, my flamboyancy. They want

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk about me having makeup. What I want to

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 1>know is me having any of that? What does that

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>have to do with anyone else? And when getting signed

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>and all the stuff and talking about it, it's like,

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone's making what what is Middle America gonna think?

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Or what is so and so going to think? Or

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 1>like what about this? And it's like, I just think

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting growing up in Middle America and that

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>being in my life, Like thinking about how much weight

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>gets put on people's appearance, people's sexuality, people's gender. Tell

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>me about your music video? What did you cover on that? Yeah?

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So we had three different people actors, um pretend to

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>be me, but they were all um in different ways.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>They were not acceptable to the standard of what a

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>pop star is. Um. We had a girl who is

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>um so much fun on set and she was just

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>so kind, but you know she was a bigger woman

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and um, she walks into her sweats and like just

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>walks in and then through the process they turned into

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this like glamorous diva, you know. And it's like there's

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>another one who his name is Marcus and he walked

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in as a woman. He walked in is his like

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>how he sees himself? And um, his I think his

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 1>woman's name is Daniella. I mean, he's a beautiful woman

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and a beautiful man. It's kind of crazy. And through

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that process of him going through the video, you see

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>them turn him into a cowboy and then, um, the

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>third one was this kid who's just like tattooed up, like,

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>walks in and then I'm just kind of a street

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>kid and then they cover his tattoos up with an

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>airbrush and then make him into like a Justin Bieber

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>look alike. So basically, it's saying they're turning someone's who

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 1>they what they originally are and they're authentic self into

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>something that's acceptable. And you're kind of saying like I'm

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>done with that, you know what I'm saying. That's not okay,

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. And um with the Goodbye thing,

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people listen to it and

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, obviously I wrote it when I was

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>going through a relationship um plunder, but it's like there's

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that we allow in our lives

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 1>so that we do need to say goodbye to and um,

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>other people's opinions is kind of one of the biggest ones.

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel so much free now that I just do

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 1>not give a ship what people think about me. I

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't When was that turning point for you? Um, when

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I became fancy, So it was like an evolution. It

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>literally was like a million pound way lifted off in me.

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I could run for the first time.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Yeah, So then you did a big song

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>with Megan Trainer and I wrote a song in Nashville

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with Bobby Pierrot and one of his writer's named Jason Gantt,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>and um, it was my favorite song. And when I

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>got signed, I literally demanded that this song was on

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>my record or was I was allowed to sing it

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>because it was about boys I don't know, Yeah, and

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Scooter and everyone on board at the time, because that's

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>probably the most like out there songs saying because even

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Sam Hunt, Sam Smith, he didn't like outwardly talk about

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>sexual like the gender. Yeah, I am in no way ambiguous.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I never want to be hushed. I'm like I said earlier,

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>these songs are my journals and um. As we covered

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>earlier about crushes, I have a lot of them, and

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I make common mistakes with every single boy, and it's

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like I was telling, I literally walked

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 1>into Bob's writing room and it was just kind of

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like talking about it, and he was like, well, you

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>need to stop following for boys like that. I was like,

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And we wrote the song and Megan

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and I have been friends for a long time and yeah,

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.959
<v Speaker 1>and we have been writing together since we were way

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:35.359
<v Speaker 1>before she was Megan Trainer. I mean, yeah, for sure.

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I still have an email in my Gmail account from

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>where she's like, yo, if you know Megan, it's yo. UM.

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to be an artist

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>or anything, but if I do, if I do decide

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it, this would be my song. And it's

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:52.240
<v Speaker 1>all about that bass. Are you kidding me? Literally? I was, yeah.

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like and then like at the Grandma,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>she's the best new artists, and it's just kind of like,

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess she decided to be an artist. Wasn't cool?

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Sh It happens to really cool people, and it's like

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's inspiring to me, and it's like Megan's

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>road hasn't been like paved with gold, and it's just

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, she's a she's a real cool chick,

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I was really nice to have her on

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>this song. And at first it was just her and

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Eye and then at the time, me and Ariana had

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the same manager and the same label, and they were like,

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>what if what if this was like your Bang Bang moment?

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And they they asked me if i'd write a third

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>verse for Arianna. So I did, and that weekend I

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>was in the studio with Ariana Grande and was that amazing? Yeah?

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Arianna is an amazing She's just so funny

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's fun to be around, and she can do

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>she's hysterical. I mean, yeah, she really can't. I would

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>hate to know what her impersonation of me is probably,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe I don't know it has to be,

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but she Yeah, she was a lot of fun to

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be with, and the three of us together is just

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>they're both friends. So it's just it's really cool. Was

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that just a real moment in your life? Oh? Yeah,

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>but you as with the stars when I was like

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the three of us. I was just kind of like,

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what is life? Yeah, I don't know, I don't know,

0:51:57.600 --> 0:51:59.439
<v Speaker 1>just going with it. Yeah, but it's one of those things.

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like I think two years ago, people would have

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>told me that wasn't wouldn't be possible, and it happened,

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm super grateful for it. I Mean, both Megan

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and Ariana have been amazing to me and it supported

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>me in like a really big way. And so they've

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>just been really good friends to me in real life

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and in my career. So super thankful for them. So

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>what are you most excited about for two thousand six.

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm most excited about getting back to me and um,

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>getting back to the music I want to create, and

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>putting out the images of me I want to put

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.439
<v Speaker 1>out there, and um, not sugarcoating it. I'm excited about that.

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm excited about, not sugarcoating. I wanted to

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>be real, I wanted to be raw, I wanted to

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>be honest. I wanted to be fancied. Word to your

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>mother dropped the mic on that. Okay, So okay, let's

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>wrap up. That was kind of amazing. I like to

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>leave with a little segment called leave your light. So

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>give me some inspiration, something that's inspiredy or something that

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to inspire on others. Oh my goodness, I

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like I gave all my inspirational stories away. Did

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you actually this is kind of like a leave your

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Light episode. Yeah, Like the whole thing was really empowering,

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 1>which honestly is the point of my podcast. I am

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>spotlighting people who have had long journeys and everyone thinks

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>they just see like the highlight the highlight reel, But

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>behind behind the highlight reel there is like a lot

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of ship that goes down and it's a long journey.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Have to commit to it. So I think it's inspiring

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to hear people's stories like yourself, you don't give up. Yeah,

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think about when if it was like leave

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>your Light and like I knew, like a bunch of

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like kids like in Arkansas, we're going to hear it,

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and like the first thing that's on you're heavy on

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>your heart? What comes to your heart first? Something to you?

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I think I would like, I just I don't believe them,

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is what I would say. Is when people doubt you,

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>don't believe them. Believe yourself and believe in yourself and

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of been the backbone of my whole life

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.480
<v Speaker 1>is everyone's like, how did you do this? Or how

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>did you get through that? How did you get through this?

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I've never not believed in myself, regardless

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of I was open about my sexuality, regardless if I

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>was in Arkansas, regardless if I was in Nashville or

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. I've always believed in myself. And I think

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.319
<v Speaker 1>that comes from my parents instilling that in me. Um,

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you gotta write that too. Don't believe them? Yeah, I

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like that's I just don't believe people who don't understand

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.959
<v Speaker 1>my vision, who don't see it and speak doubt. I don't.

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in speaking doubt to anyone. I think

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's our job as people to lift people up

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and to make people feel magical and to make them

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.879
<v Speaker 1>realize that they're best versions of themselves, because so many

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 1>people have done that for me, and it's like, I

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's the kind of person I want to be.

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.280
<v Speaker 1>When people don't speak that way, when people speak negative,

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 1>when people are hurtful, speak doubt into others, I don't

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>believe it. It's not worth my time. I love that

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's not the legacy you're trying to leave. No, no, no, no, no,

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:56.879
<v Speaker 1>fancy fancy you're the greatest human on earth. Oh my god,

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you might be. No. I feel like you

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot to I feel like you have a

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.319
<v Speaker 1>big message to share. I believe I do too. And

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited about this album that's coming together and um,

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just opportunities that around the corner. They're coming. Yeah, I

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 1>feel them. I feel like it's smell a lot more

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>so close. Okay, we're wrapping up. You did your light,

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 1>But like, don't you really believe that? I feel like

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>speak talking about this is a little bit for creative people.

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I think especially can feel stuff coming like it's like

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you see it almost happening. And that's not a hippie

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>dippie voodoo ship. I mean I I think everything happens

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>for a reason. I mean, nothing in my life has

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>been unanswered. It's like this happens in the moment, I'm like,

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>why is this happening? And then in a very short

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>time it's kind of like, oh, and I really believe

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that thing Like one door shuts and a window opens,

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and my life experience has been like a door shut

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and like the house falls down and I'm like good

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to go, Like it's like I can go anywhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's what I feel right now. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel I see all the windows opening and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just ready to climb through. I don't believe him,

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe them. Okay, Fancy, He's the best. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me, Thanks for coming, Thanks for all the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs participating. Okay Bay, thank you all so much for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning into hyper Caroline Hobby. I hope that you loved

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from who is Fancy? He is so amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>inspirational and I cannot wait to keep following his career

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing what kind of crazy shenanigans he gets into,

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<v Speaker 1>because lord knows they're going to be fantastic and fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, I have a thousand horses with me, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so stoked about because I love these guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>married to the lead singer and they're just badass dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>They had an awesome year last year. Their song Smoke

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<v Speaker 1>came out, I went to number one, They toured Darius Rucker,

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<v Speaker 1>they just just got announced there, nominated for an a

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<v Speaker 1>c M New Group of the Year, and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>bad at ass dude, so you won't want to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune in next Wednesday to Hypercurelin Hobby, and please subscribe.

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<v Speaker 1>See you soon, bye h