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Speaker 4: I'll never forget my seventh birthday when I was opening
Speaker 4: presents and one of my quote friends gave me a
Speaker 4: remote controlled car that couldn't even transform into a robot.
Speaker 4: But when that happened, my butler kicked Henry out of
Speaker 4: our house so fast, and my parents paid my elementary
Speaker 4: school teacher to shame him for the rest of the
Speaker 4: school the rightfully. So okay, and apparently I'm not the
Speaker 4: only one with kid's birthday party drama.
Speaker 2: Oh man, job, what a hard life you've lived.
Speaker 4: Because one of our listeners was shocked by the children's
Speaker 4: birthday invite her son received recently. In fact, all of
Speaker 4: the parents were bothered by the strange instructions on it,
Speaker 4: and it's so uncomfortable. She needed our help to do
Speaker 4: an awkward Tuesday phone call We're gonna do it right now.
Speaker 3: It's awkward.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: Is there anything sweeter than a child's birthday party?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: They're a blast paw, patrol cakes, bouncy castle, the.
Speaker 2: Goodie bags are like off the hook.
Speaker 4: R oh yeah, the magicians making mommy's blouse disappear. But
Speaker 4: behind every balloon arch other parents stand in silent judgment judgments.
Speaker 3: You're wondering who.
Speaker 4: Cheap out on the decorations, who are svp'd late? Who
Speaker 4: thought a glitter slime kit was an acceptable gift for
Speaker 4: a carpeted well. I mean, you have a lot of
Speaker 4: unspoken drama that happens with these kids birthdays, and that's
Speaker 4: why one of our listeners has reached out for help.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, you're being serious. There is kid drama.
Speaker 4: I'm serious, like a joke. Her name is Ginger and
Speaker 4: she is going through it right now. Ginger, Welcome to
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 6: Hi you guys, did.
Speaker 2: You not get invited to a birthday party you wanted
Speaker 2: to go to? Ginger?
Speaker 7: I wish?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, what's going on? What made you email us
Speaker 4: about something about a kid's birthday party.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so my seven year old son, he got a
Speaker 6: birthday party invitation from one of his classmates.
Speaker 2: That's cute, Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it seemed onat first, a little birthday card,
Speaker 6: you know, with balloons and confetti on it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 6: But then I read it.
Speaker 2: You read the invitation.
Speaker 6: I was so confused because like, there's no time listed,
Speaker 6: no activities, there's no party.
Speaker 2: What what do you invite?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a playdate. Then is it just
Speaker 1: him and his buddyh.
Speaker 6: No, they just want us to send gifts to their house.
Speaker 6: No party at all.
Speaker 2: Excuse me?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: No, it's not a party invite, it's a gift invite.
Speaker 3: Like, there, send your gifts this way.
Speaker 1: There's a family asking for gifts for their seven year
Speaker 1: old kid's birthday.
Speaker 3: But not a birthday.
Speaker 6: It literally says please mail or drop off presents by
Speaker 6: next Saturday at.
Speaker 2: Stuck in your mouth, Oh there's a deadline. Is it
Speaker 2: a joke? You're not getting like, how could anyone do that?
Speaker 6: No? And then they feel the deal, thank you for
Speaker 6: participating in this wonderful celebration.
Speaker 5: Oh is it like a setup for something else?
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna make a collaj.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like they're collecting gifts for like kids that
Speaker 1: don't have funds for birthdays, Like is it a charity day?
Speaker 6: There's no mention of charity. It is all for their kid.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's boring.
Speaker 6: I mean I was thinking maybe it's like a health thing.
Speaker 6: You know, maybe somebody's sick and they don't want to
Speaker 6: expose other people.
Speaker 2: There's a logical explanation. True, Yeah, okay, did you find out.
Speaker 7: No, they're still showing up to all the school events.
Speaker 2: Oh, the kid is okay, the whole family okay.
Speaker 3: So probably not a health issue and they're not in
Speaker 3: a giant like bubble.
Speaker 2: What family of kids wants more crap in their house?
Speaker 2: Like that's another Well, kids wants all the toys they
Speaker 2: no way, dude, my kids, they say no gifts on
Speaker 2: the invitation.
Speaker 3: Is Brooks stay and kids don't like toys and.
Speaker 1: Giars saying they don't need it, Like my kids don't
Speaker 1: need that stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean I've heard of that before, but this is
Speaker 4: sounds like you're being invited to a wedding but you're
Speaker 4: not allowed to attend the actual You just here's the
Speaker 4: wedding registry. Thank you for buying a gift.
Speaker 5: Mind bringing gift, but like, let's have a party, let's barbecue, like.
Speaker 3: Or is this only you and your kid?
Speaker 4: Do you know if other children are being invited to
Speaker 4: a party?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I talked to some of the other parents and
Speaker 6: they all got the same invitation.
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine your mom group chats right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're pretty spicy right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the question.
Speaker 1: Are they like down on their luck, like the family
Speaker 1: doesn't have money to afford the gifts.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just think this is odd.
Speaker 7: I mean, who does this?
Speaker 6: Who throws the kids party and none of the kids
Speaker 6: can go?
Speaker 3: Okay, if that was the case, in.
Speaker 5: A gentle way, they would say that it's a tough year.
Speaker 2: For us, we'd appreciate something or some help. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I guess that's what that's what go fundmes for.
Speaker 4: But Ginger, I mean, if you don't agree with this,
Speaker 4: if you don't like the idea, why not just boycott
Speaker 4: it and don't send a gift?
Speaker 2: And the kid.
Speaker 6: Now, if I don't give a gift, then I'm going
Speaker 6: to be known in the group chat as the parent
Speaker 6: who didn't send a gift to his birthday.
Speaker 3: Are you siou Po's right.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's bad. I think it's worse for
Speaker 2: your kid.
Speaker 1: Who's the one kid who didn't given was.
Speaker 7: Not going to get invited to the other part.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would be boycotting to ed.
Speaker 3: There's no way.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Bad mouthed me all you want?
Speaker 2: That is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Brook would pick it outside of the home.
Speaker 2: I think she has those signs made even a joke.
Speaker 3: Don't cross this line and put a gift on the front.
Speaker 3: Poor bring her kids to help her protest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously this is unusual. What made you email
Speaker 4: us for advice? What are you looking to do with
Speaker 4: your call here?
Speaker 6: I want to know how to be the bigger person here,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to just complain about it.
Speaker 6: I mean I would like to speak to the mom
Speaker 6: and tell her what the other parents are saying about this.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I mean, what's the message? Though? You're
Speaker 2: gonna say, Hey, not cool?
Speaker 6: Personally, I'm bothered by it. The more I'm talking about
Speaker 6: it is you can see I get amped up. So
Speaker 6: I just kind of mor so need some advice about
Speaker 6: how to have the conversation.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people would just
Speaker 1: ignore it and hope it goes away. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: help in society. Then it just makes it uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't give that as my advice.
Speaker 1: Ignored it and it's possible more conversations are good.
Speaker 4: This is really interesting because I've definitely heard of parents
Speaker 4: like Brooks said, say, please have your kid come to
Speaker 4: the party, no presence needed. But this is the total
Speaker 4: opposite where it's like, bring your presence, no children away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, children, We're gonna.
Speaker 4: Get you some advice here, Ginger, and let you make
Speaker 4: your awkward Tuesday phone call to figure out what's going
Speaker 4: on with this kid's birthday party.
Speaker 3: We'll do it right after this. Hold on, it's awkward.
Speaker 6: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 4: It's a genius idea. I can't believe I haven't thought
Speaker 4: of before. Throw a birthday party without people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't like people very much, Jeff. This actually
Speaker 2: I could see you.
Speaker 4: Nobody's allowed you just ask for the presence to be
Speaker 4: delivered right to you.
Speaker 3: Wow, and stay the heck away.
Speaker 5: You should make up like twelve children, one for each month.
Speaker 5: Jeff an imaginary birthday party every month.
Speaker 4: So smart Joseking the doll.
Speaker 3: And I can't even say it was my idea.
Speaker 4: It's what one mom apparently did because one of our listeners, Ginger,
Speaker 4: got an invite for her seven year old son to
Speaker 4: celebrate another kid's birthday. But there's no actual party, no
Speaker 4: activities at all, just an address for them to drop
Speaker 4: off presents. Yeah, and Ginger wants to call this other
Speaker 4: mom and tell her, Hey, this might not be the
Speaker 4: best look because other parents have been talking about it
Speaker 4: and not jet.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean she's honestly, you're doing the mom
Speaker 1: of a solid, but you're helping the mom out by
Speaker 1: giving her a head zone.
Speaker 4: We just need to give her advice on how to
Speaker 4: do it politely. So Brooke, what do you have for her?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you want to remain calm, right, that's
Speaker 1: like your goal. And for me, whenever I have an
Speaker 1: awkward mom interaction, I just played dumb.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought she was gonna say XANAX never.
Speaker 1: So you just want to say, hey, I got this invite,
Speaker 1: but I don't really understand it, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: make her explain.
Speaker 2: It to you.
Speaker 1: Maybe when she says it out loud she realizes this
Speaker 1: sounds bad, right, or or be open. Maybe there's something
Speaker 1: that we're missing, Maybe there's a logical answer we.
Speaker 8: Don't see yet. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I feel like you've got to say this
Speaker 6: out loud to make it make sense, and it doesn't
Speaker 6: make sense on paper.
Speaker 3: Totally totally Okay, Well, Jose, what do you think. What's
Speaker 3: your advice? Well, I have the exact same advice. What
Speaker 3: you need to do when I do best and play dumb.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you call back.
Speaker 5: Aloof and just be like, oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 5: I'm calling for details at the big birthday party even
Speaker 5: though you know there's no party.
Speaker 2: You're getting even dumber than I suggest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you got dumb here.
Speaker 3: I feel like you didn't even read the yeah.
Speaker 5: That was She literally has to tell you and correct
Speaker 5: you on what's really happening. She's have to tell you
Speaker 5: not to come, but you'll be listening and you won't
Speaker 5: get mad.
Speaker 6: Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3: So you think you're not dumb enough, go dumber.
Speaker 2: I also like playing dumb, So three for three.
Speaker 4: Here, you might go full dumb today. Let's dial this
Speaker 4: other mom here and don't dial.
Speaker 3: It wrong, dummie.
Speaker 2: I am so excited to hear this explanation. Honestly, I know, like,
Speaker 2: what's the real truth.
Speaker 4: Let's see if she even picks up. I'm dialing her
Speaker 4: number right now and we'll step away. Let you make
Speaker 4: your awkward Tuesday phone call, and we'll be ready to
Speaker 4: jump in if we feel like you need a little help.
Speaker 6: All right, Okay, thank you God.
Speaker 3: You're an idiot. Okay, yeah, in a good way. Yes,
Speaker 3: here we go, good luck.
Speaker 7: Hello?
Speaker 9: Hi?
Speaker 6: Is this Pammy?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: This is is this?
Speaker 6: I'm cute?
Speaker 8: Mom?
Speaker 9: Hi?
Speaker 7: How are you? I'm good.
Speaker 6: We got your birthday invite. Oh, I do have a
Speaker 6: couple of questions for you.
Speaker 7: There really shouldn't be any questions because everything's laid out
Speaker 7: on the invite there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I got it. But I just need to
Speaker 6: ask you is this correct? Like there's no actual party,
Speaker 6: it's just you kind of just want us to send
Speaker 6: a gift and that's it.
Speaker 8: Yep, that's what it is. I mean it says it
Speaker 8: on the invitation.
Speaker 9: WHOA, You're welcome to drop it off, I mean, feel free,
Speaker 9: but you don't even need to ring the door.
Speaker 8: But you can just leave it on the doorstep.
Speaker 7: And I can grab it.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, is there anything else I think that covers it? Yep.
Speaker 6: I mean, well, I kind of feel like it's important
Speaker 6: to talk to you about this because, like some of
Speaker 6: the other parents have mentioned, they've never heard of a
Speaker 6: party like this before.
Speaker 7: Right, well, this is not a party, this is a celebration.
Speaker 7: Oh got it. But I mean, and we decided to
Speaker 7: do a little bit of a more gift forward celebration
Speaker 7: this year, you.
Speaker 6: Know, I mean, what does that even mean?
Speaker 8: It's really simple, more gifts, less people. It's kind of
Speaker 8: more fun that way.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Ginger. Is it because you can't afford a gift?
Speaker 7: Because if that's the case, it's honestly, it's okay. Just
Speaker 7: have you on May something or like an ioe you
Speaker 7: for a gift card? You know they produce me.
Speaker 6: That's no, that's rude.
Speaker 7: We have plenty of money.
Speaker 6: I just think that if there's a bad message to
Speaker 6: the kids that it's all about gifts and not about
Speaker 6: the experience of celebrating your friends.
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, at this age, kids don't even remember
Speaker 7: the party.
Speaker 8: They just remember the gifts.
Speaker 7: So let's just skip the middleman, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, I just feel like it's really weird to
Speaker 6: ask for a gift and it's no event, no piece,
Speaker 6: good party, no nothing. You just want me to send
Speaker 6: a gift to your house.
Speaker 7: Okay, I kind of see what you're saying.
Speaker 9: So your child doesn't believe in gift giving unless there's
Speaker 9: something in it for him.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's kind of sad.
Speaker 6: No, it's not about my kid at all. It's the
Speaker 6: perception about this is not right. You're just asking people
Speaker 6: for gifts.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: I don't really have a lot of time right now,
Speaker 7: but I'm a little surprised at the reaction you're giving
Speaker 7: me because none of the other parents have said anything
Speaker 7: like this.
Speaker 8: Most of them are very supportive.
Speaker 7: It's not that they support you, they're scared of you.
Speaker 6: They don't want their kids to be blackballed from other parties,
Speaker 6: so they.
Speaker 7: Talk to me.
Speaker 9: Okay, I don't really like how this is going, so listen.
Speaker 9: If you don't feel like I needs to drop off
Speaker 9: a gift.
Speaker 7: Just then the less send us cash.
Speaker 9: Hinny, Hello, what's going on?
Speaker 7: Yes, am I on speaker phone or something.
Speaker 4: Well, you're on a lot of speakers all over the
Speaker 4: country right now, because this is a radio show called
Speaker 4: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you are so classless, Ginger to put mean Luke,
Speaker 7: you couldn't call me directly, so you called a radio station.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Hey, that's pitiful.
Speaker 1: The only classless person is the mother who's begging for
Speaker 1: gifts and not even throwing a party.
Speaker 2: That's honey.
Speaker 7: I don't know your name, but no one's begging for gifts.
Speaker 7: If she didn't want to send one, she didn't have to.
Speaker 7: She just called me. I'm telling her her options. She
Speaker 7: doesn't have to she doesn't want.
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to come with some explanation
Speaker 1: as to why the birthday party was just gifts, like
Speaker 1: maybe this kid was sick or maybe like maybe there
Speaker 1: was something right, maybe there was a guy.
Speaker 7: It's a celebration, not a party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a party was the difference. She made it
Speaker 3: very clear. It's a gift forward celebration. The focus is
Speaker 3: on the gifts.
Speaker 2: Why do you want that to be your kid's focus.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't your kids focus be relationships? Like that's what's going
Speaker 2: to sustain them in life, not stuck.
Speaker 3: I'm Tammy.
Speaker 4: The reason that Ginger has reached out to us is
Speaker 4: because she's not alone. Apparently a bunch of the other
Speaker 4: parents and kids at your school are a little bit
Speaker 4: alarmed by this idea.
Speaker 7: Yes, and guys, I could care less.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I get your on the defense. We
Speaker 1: came in hot, but like, honestly, like you got to
Speaker 1: think of your kid right now.
Speaker 7: This is none of your business. I'm not sure what
Speaker 7: I'm even doing on this call because she could have
Speaker 7: had a private conversation. But now all the mothers will
Speaker 7: know they.
Speaker 2: Are you send out a mass invite for gifts?
Speaker 3: Can I ask a weird question? Is your kid get
Speaker 3: along with the other children?
Speaker 5: Is that the problem?
Speaker 7: Again, it's none of your business because I have no
Speaker 7: idea who you are.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, we would like as a show, we would
Speaker 4: like to send your child the gifts to.
Speaker 3: Adress.
Speaker 2: We'll send over some stuff, oh ginger Brook delivery right.
Speaker 8: Broke, I'm not talking anyone. Goodbye?
Speaker 3: Playing around?
Speaker 2: My god, she's the worst. Why do you even care
Speaker 2: about upsetting that family? Like you don't want to be
Speaker 2: You don't want to have that family in your life.
Speaker 6: I just cannot believe she said I like you said.
Speaker 6: I thought she was going to give us an excuse.
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be like egg on
Speaker 2: our face. What jerks are for? Like even jumping to
Speaker 2: the concressions, donating everything to this something.
Speaker 4: Oh darn So, do you feel like you're still going
Speaker 4: to send a gift for the birthday?
Speaker 3: You don't want to be rude, You're not really asking that.
Speaker 6: What I got said before, I'm not sending her.
Speaker 3: Really brought out the fire in her. Yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 3: keep us updated on what happens with this party. If
Speaker 3: that kid actually does.
Speaker 4: A party, is a celebration, celebration of this child's birthday?
Speaker 3: Tell us well, discipline
Speaker 2: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning,