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Speaker 3: another episode of Horror black jeez, I gotta sound like
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Speaker 2: My name is Weezy.
Speaker 1: We have a guest in the building today who I
Speaker 1: feel like I won't just be digging into for my
Speaker 1: own self like it too. So yesterday, which by the way,
Speaker 1: was really funny, we were supposed to have a Patreon episode
Speaker 1: and I was like, looking for your guess your Patreon.
Speaker 1: As somebody replied Mandy about to be mad this outline
Speaker 1: coming late.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, what I know. You don't even know.
Speaker 3: I was on live, like just on live and of
Speaker 3: course the background, and they're like, not weezy being late.
Speaker 3: It's weezy late. How late? She running everybody in the comments?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, we said twelve thirty and
Speaker 3: then you text me I'll be there at twelve thirty two.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I ain't gonna tell the folks
Speaker 1: that she too. Thank you. There was an at storm
Speaker 1: our girl Juju's in the building, and Juju is be
Speaker 1: with the Juju. I know that's what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: I'll say, an author, a podcaster. Now you're on TV,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your work. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I identify as a witch.
Speaker 4: Yeah I do bad bish witch, but I am an
Speaker 4: initiated priests, So I don't just like say I'm a
Speaker 4: witch like I've been through ceremonies and like study an
Speaker 4: ancient religion called Ephi. So I'm an all Shume priest,
Speaker 4: which is one of the deities within that tradition. So
Speaker 4: I do that, but I also like I write about it.
Speaker 4: My podcast is about spirituality, especially for black people. Black
Speaker 4: witches like calling people who are interested in something else
Speaker 4: but don't know what to call it or interested in
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I'm having these dreams. I feel
Speaker 4: like I've had these like experiences I can't explain. I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: there's a thing that this is and it comes from
Speaker 4: a long line of other things. That's why I teach
Speaker 4: people about that work.
Speaker 3: Is that why you cut your hair?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'm both on this way. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: I just want to know and I've.
Speaker 1: Realized, oh my god, oh no.
Speaker 3: No, no, that was very I was very care Can
Speaker 3: I explain?
Speaker 1: Yea, my homegirl's practicing. So it's like, damn, it's time
Speaker 1: for me to give up my hair. On your page, I.
Speaker 2: Saw I have a lot of ball picks on my page,
Speaker 2: so I was like.
Speaker 3: Damn, they can't. You can't give up.
Speaker 1: No, no, they can't take like no alcohol, like they
Speaker 1: take that too. Oh and don't drink either. No, yes,
Speaker 1: we can't drink. Okay, don't like you to make a sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Well you tell, because I don't really know what sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Would you make real quick though, would you cut off
Speaker 1: your hair? Because I could do that. I could be yeah,
Speaker 1: if I had to, if it was if I was
Speaker 1: called to something. But I don't feeling.
Speaker 4: If you can also grow your hair back, it's just
Speaker 4: a part of the initiation. So if you're initiation, initiating
Speaker 4: into priestshood, like you're gonna cut your hair, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be given as an offering. Then it just grows back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I keep cutting.
Speaker 3: Y'all are watching on the YouTube, don't mind the eye rolling.
Speaker 3: I did let her know beforehand that this was going
Speaker 3: to be a very difficult conversation for me to understand. Well,
Speaker 3: who are you making the offering to.
Speaker 4: I made it to the d d Oushoon because that's
Speaker 4: I'm an Ushume priest, so it's too Oshume.
Speaker 3: No, that's like Jesus for Christian for Christian. No, she no,
Speaker 3: that's they be getting baptized for Jesus. Oh, I thought
Speaker 3: you met oh shooting from Christians. I was confused.
Speaker 1: No, oh, within me, that's your power, that's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not everyone's. That's mine.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So you could be something else. You could be something
Speaker 4: else other deities. Mine is a shoon.
Speaker 1: When you were growing up, did you know you were different? Like,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about how you got into
Speaker 1: now are you? Are you Caribbean?
Speaker 4: I do have Caribbean ancestry, but I'm Black American primarily.
Speaker 4: I was raised Black American. Yeah, this is what you
Speaker 4: get when bitches be from Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I'm not from Brookway.
Speaker 3: I'm from Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So and by the way, y'all are probably like, this
Speaker 3: is not a religious podcast, y'all. She fo goes, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna get to that later.
Speaker 1: And I saw that you said your podcast was a
Speaker 1: top religious podcast.
Speaker 2: I heard too, Yeah it was nominated.
Speaker 3: So I love that.
Speaker 4: So you weren't born into this, So tell us a
Speaker 4: little bit about how you got how you got into No,
Speaker 4: it came into my adulthood. It's so wild. I was
Speaker 4: actually in school to be a doctor of clinical psychology,
Speaker 4: and I didn't like it. I was really depressed in school.
Speaker 4: And and one day I had a very vivid dream
Speaker 4: of like a great great great great grandmother on my
Speaker 4: paternal side, and I saw like a life in slavery,
Speaker 4: like I saw a whole day in her life, like
Speaker 4: trigger warning, like rape. I watched all of it, and
Speaker 4: my ancestors were like, you have to heal us. And
Speaker 4: I woke up and I never dreamt like that. I
Speaker 4: never had no experience like that. So I ended up
Speaker 4: going to school the next day and I was like, yo.
Speaker 4: I was talking to my professor, who was the only
Speaker 4: black one I had, and she's like, what's wrong with
Speaker 4: you today? I'm like, I had this really wild dream
Speaker 4: about my ancestor and I watched her get assaulted all
Speaker 4: these things. She's like, because your ancestors are trying to
Speaker 4: communicate with you and you need to listen. So she
Speaker 4: took me to the library in the in the program,
Speaker 4: and the library was a genealogist and she put my
Speaker 4: whole family tree together because she was like, I want
Speaker 4: you to feel connected to your ancestry, who you come from.
Speaker 3: That's only one day.
Speaker 4: This was all in one day, but I started meeting
Speaker 4: with the genealogist like weekly at school. Was a genealogist,
Speaker 4: someone who studies ancestry, like can put your family tree together, like, oh, this.
Speaker 3: Is your great great grade. Okay, because you said which
Speaker 3: then we was getting in the genies. I was like,
Speaker 3: what the hell did we talking about?
Speaker 5: That joke coming out?
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, Junia at this point, and how
Speaker 3: old are you now?
Speaker 4: I'm thirty one. This happened when I was twenty. This
Speaker 4: happened in twenty eight teams. Anyway, I dropped out of
Speaker 4: my program to then do this world time.
Speaker 3: Yes, is it? There's money in it in this? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, because you'd be like getting the spiritual girls
Speaker 3: that want to live in do Lulu to pay for
Speaker 3: like classes and readings and stuff. But we just talking
Speaker 3: about the spiritual girls. So I do want to know,
Speaker 3: like what leads you to dropping out of school for what?
Speaker 3: Of course, society would deem a great profession yep, like
Speaker 3: getting into the medical field and to leave that and
Speaker 3: fully get into this.
Speaker 2: Full time, right, Like what kind of ticked you to
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 3: Like what was the drawing point to be like I
Speaker 3: have to leave school and this is my calling? Was
Speaker 3: it another dream?
Speaker 1: It wasn't another dream.
Speaker 4: It was just like when she said, I have to
Speaker 4: heal my own lineage before I'm trying to heal other people.
Speaker 3: Something me just clicked. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Exactly what to do, but I was like, I can't
Speaker 2: be in this program anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm leaving.
Speaker 4: And I left the next semester and I started to
Speaker 4: like find teachers and elders and read things online and
Speaker 4: study and I just it was like a nail net
Speaker 4: email letting you know how much debt you was a
Speaker 4: cross bitch. I've been fucking that YO, bad day. I
Speaker 4: believe from a degree I did not get. But I'm
Speaker 4: so fulfilled, Like I'm happy as fun.
Speaker 1: What about so what you're an author to You've read
Speaker 1: one book?
Speaker 3: One book?
Speaker 1: It comes out in June.
Speaker 2: Ok, thank congratulations.
Speaker 1: So on this journey, somehow you start getting into ghosts
Speaker 1: and stuff, which is a great dead mouse fun dead
Speaker 1: Mouse song. Oh okay, So when did the ghosts start
Speaker 1: coming into your life?
Speaker 4: So I would say once I was deeper into the
Speaker 4: journey after the podcast, I'm starting to talk about so
Speaker 4: I'm starting to read stuff. I'm starting to do spells online.
Speaker 4: Shit I would never do. Now, just knew what you're new.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, let me learn.
Speaker 1: The first stuff was the board? What was like your
Speaker 1: first spell?
Speaker 3: I never did that one.
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about one of us white
Speaker 1: spells and there they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that's more wicked. I'm not wicking. That's
Speaker 4: more white, not that they's not black or picking people.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we gottad all the differences because I'm like
Speaker 4: more who do voodoo conjured five So it's very black
Speaker 4: africand of and magic.
Speaker 3: Really, So what were the first few spells you started
Speaker 3: conjuring through these readings.
Speaker 2: That you were doing.
Speaker 4: I would say it wasn't through a reading. It was
Speaker 4: actually I was at something called a mesa, which is
Speaker 4: where mediums go to get possessed. But we like invite possession.
Speaker 4: But it's an old practice that when you invite possession,
Speaker 4: it actually is to help the community. So people come
Speaker 4: to learn or to connect with their lost loved ones
Speaker 4: and so like we have this mesa at this time,
Speaker 4: community comes, we invoke possession, we embody whoever they are,
Speaker 4: give them messages, and we come back to ourselves.
Speaker 2: I need to know.
Speaker 4: And the first time I saw that, I was wild
Speaker 4: as fucked, But I was like, but it happened to
Speaker 4: me like I was there as a meetium. I watched
Speaker 4: my godmother at the time and other mediums do it
Speaker 4: and then's something like I started to like and I
Speaker 4: started to speak another language to someone and it was
Speaker 4: like you're speaking a Congalese language. And I don't fully
Speaker 4: remember it, but I remember I came back and I
Speaker 4: was depleted for like three days.
Speaker 1: Damn. I watched this recently on a fucking plane, in
Speaker 1: some bullshit form of it.
Speaker 3: It was this movie.
Speaker 1: It's like this Haunted Mansion movie and the medium comes
Speaker 1: and it's the Chinese.
Speaker 3: Is she Chinese? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Asian bitch from every everywhere but not here? And she
Speaker 1: plays a medium and you watch the possession take on
Speaker 1: and it's funny because I'd obviously seen this in TV
Speaker 1: and movies before, but it was like last week I
Speaker 1: watched this and I remember thinking, how exhausting must it
Speaker 1: be for a medium? And it's the only spell I'd
Speaker 1: ever done in my life, which was for good.
Speaker 3: You did a spell.
Speaker 1: It was for someone's health spell. Yeah, I didn't. We
Speaker 1: all do spells, but I did it with a friend
Speaker 1: that like, really was trying to help someone for me.
Speaker 1: I was so tired, I slept for five hours. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm not a witch, but I wanted her to do
Speaker 1: this for me. For some of someone in my life
Speaker 1: who was ill, and when she was doing it, she
Speaker 1: was like, I think you should do it with me.
Speaker 1: I really want to come over to your place. Like
Speaker 1: I think it's more powerful if you do it because
Speaker 1: you're so connected to this person.
Speaker 3: Which when I did it, I was tired.
Speaker 1: It was only thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Anyway, all I have to say is it ain't for me.
Speaker 3: But I think you're away. I think both of y'all are.
Speaker 3: Oh girl, you don't think that about me. You don't
Speaker 3: think that about I do. I don't start the moves,
Speaker 3: y'all don't even know. She she comes in, gives me
Speaker 3: a hugger. She was like, you was in my dream
Speaker 3: last night. Bit y'all better not be in young.
Speaker 4: You were in my dream. You were in my dream.
Speaker 4: It was this type of energy I was. It was
Speaker 4: just like Mandy about to be on her and I.
Speaker 3: Saw because I don't believe none of this, Yeah I know,
Speaker 3: and I saw it. You look at Congolese class one time,
Speaker 3: just started speaking it so okay.
Speaker 1: You want to dream about many find.
Speaker 3: You get into the medium realm. You have this experience
Speaker 3: for the first time. I don't want to fuck up
Speaker 3: her outline, but I didn't want to get where did
Speaker 3: the ghost come in?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I work with spirits and people can use
Speaker 4: those terms interchangeably, like a ghost is a spirit, so
Speaker 4: I work with spirits.
Speaker 1: I'm reading spirits.
Speaker 4: I work with ancestors primarily, so it's people's deceased loved ones.
Speaker 4: That's who I talk to mostly. But I think calling
Speaker 4: it ghosts happened more recently, just as I started to
Speaker 4: grow into my spiritual practice and meet other people who
Speaker 4: are wicked, who are white, who are doing all this
Speaker 4: other shit. And that's kind of like how the opportunity
Speaker 4: came for the TV stuff. It was looking for someone
Speaker 4: that did something that I was similar to, and they're like,
Speaker 4: we need ghost hunters, we need paranormal experts. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm not a ghost hunter, but I work with spirits,
Speaker 4: so if that's cool, and they were like, no, it is,
Speaker 4: And I auditioned that I got the role to actually
Speaker 4: go into places and see if there are spirits.
Speaker 3: What so you meet you meet the ancestors, like the
Speaker 3: dead ancestors of people like your clients. Correct, that's who
Speaker 3: you be fucking no clients ancestors. Hell no, Mandy, you
Speaker 3: just said them. The people you talked to.
Speaker 4: No, when I do readings, I do ancestor readings, so
Speaker 4: some people talk to I don't know what they talk to.
Speaker 1: I taught the ancest something I've always wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I went to one medium.
Speaker 3: She was great.
Speaker 1: She was like she was the one that told me
Speaker 1: the abortion. Okay, for context, there's an episode. I actually
Speaker 1: saw someone on Twitter bring.
Speaker 2: This up recently, bring this up.
Speaker 1: Yet. I went to a woman two years ago to
Speaker 1: figure out why my love life was fucked up, and
Speaker 1: she told me it's because I've had abortions, which I
Speaker 1: didn't tell her I had. She said that I took
Speaker 1: love out of my body blah blah. And I felt
Speaker 1: so angry about it because I was so content with
Speaker 1: the abortion that I had right, I'd won it eighteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen, won in my mid twenties, and I was
Speaker 1: very comfortable with it. I felt like I did the
Speaker 1: right thing. I wasn't ready, they weren't ready. Whatever. Fast forward,
Speaker 1: I go to a medium and I bring it up
Speaker 1: and she says that some souls need to be freed,
Speaker 1: some spirits need to be freed. They're in limbo, and
Speaker 1: that they need to be watching over you. She was like,
Speaker 1: they might come back in the form of a rock,
Speaker 1: they could be anything, they could be in a terrible place,
Speaker 1: and they need to be gone. And that's what you
Speaker 1: were able to do for that person.
Speaker 3: And maybe you needed an angel.
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because then fast forward two months ago,
Speaker 1: I fucked up my neck. This lady's giving me a
Speaker 1: massage and in the middle of it, she goes, there's
Speaker 1: a little girl watching you.
Speaker 3: Ooh bits that shit freaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have a little girl, like angel, it's
Speaker 1: a baby, And I was like, wow, So what do.
Speaker 4: You make of these uncanny things that keep happen, Like
Speaker 4: are they just coincidences?
Speaker 1: I just think that I'm too much of an EmPATH
Speaker 1: and too emotional and irrational to ever dig into anything
Speaker 1: that's real sex magic or witch shit. I think I
Speaker 1: manifest a lot I talk about that. I talk about
Speaker 1: sex magic. I do when I want to get some
Speaker 1: dick or some money. It's really like light shit. But
Speaker 1: I think I can't handle it. I couldn't handle something
Speaker 1: like that because then I would weaponize it against everybody,
Speaker 1: like not for bad, but just be like you know, like,
Speaker 1: well I saw this and it's going to happen. I
Speaker 1: think I'm not okay, okay, so boom the medium tells
Speaker 1: me that about abortions.
Speaker 3: That was my experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever had something that you knew about
Speaker 1: someone or saw and you felt bad to tell them?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: All the time in readings, I feel bad to let
Speaker 4: people know someone may be cheating on them, or maybe
Speaker 4: a parent that they think is their parent is not
Speaker 4: the actual parent, like stuff like that. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 4: bad all the time saying stuff like that.
Speaker 1: What happens when you're wrong? When you're wrong, is it
Speaker 1: confusing past present future? I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always a possibility to be wrong, but
Speaker 4: I haven't had any clients to be like you said,
Speaker 4: it's wrong, But I think, yeah, you can be wrong, sure,
Speaker 4: but I think it's nuances to understanding, like the spirit wrong,
Speaker 4: like in time, like what is time? Sometimes yes, it's
Speaker 4: kind of like past present future, Like sometimes you can
Speaker 4: interpret something that actually could have been from somebody's past
Speaker 4: life and you're saying it's about to happen to them now,
Speaker 4: and that's actually something that already happened to them.
Speaker 1: I have the same things happened to me in readings.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't know if I believe it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe reading.
Speaker 1: I think I'm giving it off and they feel it
Speaker 1: on me, and they always tell me that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: end up making mad money. They told me I'll be
Speaker 1: a mother. Marriage is my free will and my love life.
Speaker 1: They're like, there's someone there, but he's been there, and
Speaker 1: it just feels so general.
Speaker 3: It's so general.
Speaker 1: That's my problem.
Speaker 3: I just had an oracle reading done and it was like,
Speaker 3: you need to pause and take a break because you're
Speaker 3: overworking yourself. Bitch done. We all look where we live,
Speaker 3: fucking America. We gotta And then and then my homegirl,
Speaker 3: when she broke up with her partner, she flew to
Speaker 3: New York and I was like, okay, well, I know
Speaker 3: you're into this shit. So we ended up in Soho
Speaker 3: and we go to get our palms read.
Speaker 1: Poem.
Speaker 3: First thought the oracle reading was done for content purposes.
Speaker 3: I did not find the oracle readers for my other podcast.
Speaker 3: And then this one was I knew she liked it,
Speaker 3: so we want to get our palms read. And the
Speaker 3: bitch started talking about uh me having a certain situation
Speaker 3: with my boss at work, and I'm like, bitch, I
Speaker 3: am the boss. I don't even have a boss. I
Speaker 3: worked for my fucking self, So like, I'm here ing
Speaker 3: her say these things. Then she brought up how the
Speaker 3: person I may be with at the time would have
Speaker 3: a baby on the way, bitch. Scientifically that wasn't possible.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, girl, you're just saying a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of bullshit. But she was maybe a spicy white
Speaker 3: like she could have been like the type.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was given.
Speaker 4: So I don't think people say they word oh, was that?
Speaker 4: I think that offensive to me. I know that they
Speaker 4: don't say that. I'm not sure why. I don't know,
Speaker 4: but I think it is a sad I think I
Speaker 4: don't think it's I think.
Speaker 1: So Forevanella shit this week it's about dreaming, and I
Speaker 1: thought this would be interesting for you. So Japanese scientists
Speaker 1: have opened up a new development. It's a dream recording
Speaker 1: device with unprecedented possibilities for exploring the realm of dreams.
Speaker 1: Building upon advancements in neuroimaging and artificial intelligence, the technology
Speaker 1: captures the neural activity accompanying dreams states and translates them
Speaker 1: into visual representations by integrating brain imaging techniques and sophisticated algorithms.
Speaker 1: Scientists have made strides in decoding the visual contents of dreams,
Speaker 1: leading to the creation of a device capable of rendering
Speaker 1: them into a video. Oh I don't think I want that.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 3: I don't either, like it's crazy because I love inceptions.
Speaker 3: One of the best films ever created, Leonardo DiCaprio did
Speaker 3: his big one with the shits.
Speaker 2: Y'all know how to be given white people they credit,
Speaker 2: but Leo did that.
Speaker 3: So Exception was one of my favorite films. But specifically
Speaker 3: because I do and this is where I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to be the hypercrit that I am.
Speaker 3: When I have dreams, I do google them, especially when
Speaker 3: I can wake up and remember them, because I'm like, bitch,
Speaker 3: what the fuck?
Speaker 1: So I have.
Speaker 3: Constant dreams, and this is where and this is where
Speaker 3: I do believe. I have constant dreams of what are
Speaker 3: they called natural disaster? So oftentimes it's only two, only
Speaker 3: two natural disasters. I dream a lot of earthquakes and
Speaker 3: people that I love falling in there.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, my sister.
Speaker 3: I'll be waking up just having to text my sister
Speaker 3: I love her because she'd been disappearancing she was a newborn.
Speaker 1: She got kidnapped at McDonald's multiple times.
Speaker 3: I'll be having a hella literally at the McDonald's playground
Speaker 3: and that was recurring Alex, my favorite sister. But I
Speaker 3: didn't ask so like, so, it's either earthquakes or tornadoes,
Speaker 3: and I did look that tornadoes often means that there's
Speaker 3: chaos happening in your life that you really want to
Speaker 3: get a hold of.
Speaker 1: And then earthquakes. I forgot what that one is.
Speaker 3: But I literally will have like recurring where I know
Speaker 3: the house that like same, I'm in the same location.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 3: Like I said, my sister got kidnapped McDonald's seven times. Easy,
Speaker 3: And with the earthquakes and the tornadoes come around so much,
Speaker 3: I absolutely do not. And then something else that's really interesting.
Speaker 3: In my dreams, I'm a lit bitch. I can fly
Speaker 3: and run really fast, run it from ship, I swear
Speaker 3: to God. I just can't. I could, just, I swear
Speaker 3: to God. I think I'd be running from ship in
Speaker 3: real life. I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1: But baby, I think we all flying dreams, right, can
Speaker 1: you fly?
Speaker 3: I'll be fine, bro.
Speaker 1: The only thing that sucks is my hit like if
Speaker 1: something happens to me bad, it's like this, But you want.
Speaker 3: To know how much my body be playing with me.
Speaker 3: I guess when I always wake up right before somebody
Speaker 3: I want to dreams about Jason, my mama, met the Man,
Speaker 3: all the niggas I want to fuck, and bitch, I'll
Speaker 3: be ready. I'll be waking up right and I wake
Speaker 3: up right before I fuck these diggers, and I'm like, oh, bitch,
Speaker 3: you playing with me.
Speaker 2: You want to let me live through these napers.
Speaker 3: But I can't get I can't get the dick that
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get in real life.
Speaker 2: I can't get that ship in my dream.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to watch a dream back because a
Speaker 1: lot of my dreams are kind of scary, Like I
Speaker 1: have scared, I'm really bad problems to sleep in the dark.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, so you sleep with the light on?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going to like get hypnosis.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna lie you a partner, A
Speaker 3: nigga who got to sleep with the lights on the TV.
Speaker 2: We can't with somebody, y'all cleansing. Uh what does that
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 4: Because our dreams, Because if you're there's things that can
Speaker 4: help quell these things within your I.
Speaker 1: Like that word.
Speaker 3: I'm using it, I've been using. Okay, how we call
Speaker 3: that ship?
Speaker 4: It really depends, Like it's hard to say one size
Speaker 4: meets all, like everybody's different, but maybe like a spiritual bath.
Speaker 4: I feel like y'all probably need some water, with some
Speaker 4: different water with different herbs. No, not that type. See,
Speaker 4: this is y'all about nigga, which is black people are
Speaker 4: doing different things. It's not the ship you show on TV.
Speaker 4: It's not the rose petals and all of that. Like,
Speaker 4: there is herbs, there's medicines, there is like dirts, there
Speaker 4: are animal parts, bones, like, there's things that go in
Speaker 4: water that can really assist.
Speaker 3: And kind of is.
Speaker 1: Gonna say right now, if you've been doing all that
Speaker 1: witchcraft and you can't have nothing good to do, what
Speaker 1: to happens to you?
Speaker 3: Bitch?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean she did in clubs.
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 2: She's a me nasty person.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have a witch in my life that has
Speaker 3: that kind of energy.
Speaker 1: That bitch is a fucking weirdough And honestly, I think
Speaker 1: anyone that wishes bad on people talking she does children
Speaker 1: saying didn't she say that take off.
Speaker 3: Just some bad she literally even repeating that she's not
Speaker 3: as I.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to ask you, then what's she on?
Speaker 3: Well? Not only that, your first dream was with your ancestors.
Speaker 3: As you've gotten into this, have your dreams changed? Do
Speaker 3: you have a way that if I want to go
Speaker 3: to bed and I'm like, listen, it's been a long,
Speaker 3: stressful day, I would love to dream about getting gang
Speaker 3: banged by method Man and Jason Momoa together, Like, do
Speaker 3: you know how I can manifest the type of dreams
Speaker 3: I have based on the type of days. Maybe I
Speaker 3: want to be on a beach.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the gang bang first?
Speaker 1: Well, maybe I want to be on a beach.
Speaker 3: Okay. Is there a way that you've seen that? Although
Speaker 3: quale cleanse the easiest, have you seen a way to
Speaker 3: control dreams? Even having this conversation about scientists trying to
Speaker 3: make a video?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can put lavender under your pillow. That's
Speaker 4: to help your dreams. You spray, but like have lavender
Speaker 4: under there. Putting a glass of water by your bed
Speaker 4: can help bring calmness and peace to your dream.
Speaker 1: What about a water bottle in the bed that's.
Speaker 4: Not glass of water. But you can speak into the
Speaker 4: water before you go to sleep and then put it
Speaker 4: on the side of your bed. Have your now you
Speaker 4: lost my Maddie. You can say, Okay, I want to
Speaker 4: get game banged tonight on the beach and put it
Speaker 4: down and then lay your head down.
Speaker 3: Let's see what happened. I'm gonna try it. I would
Speaker 3: try it just so it don't work, so I could
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 4: Watch it work, weird ship. Yes, I told you ghost,
Speaker 4: you can see words.
Speaker 3: I feel like saying this publicly. I might want to
Speaker 3: cut this fart out. No no, no, no no. I don't
Speaker 3: like Ed's bitch.
Speaker 1: If you say you keep because I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're about to reply. Oh, so did you our Saltburn yet?
Speaker 1: There's a scene in Saltburn with blood and basically it's
Speaker 1: like not penetration, but it's like fingers and blood and
Speaker 1: body are my nighbors. And he was like that shit
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I was like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: So anyway, turn into a conversation. My best sex I
Speaker 1: ever had with him that I remembered was Thanksgiving. It
Speaker 1: was around the full moon and I was on my
Speaker 1: period and it was the best that i'd ever had.
Speaker 1: He claims his best time with me was Grammy weekend.
Speaker 1: I was on my period and there was a full moon,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, are we doing something? You just be
Speaker 1: looking at the moon every time. I just noticed it
Speaker 1: was period. There was the best time. But it's yeah,
Speaker 1: my periods happening around full moon, which means I'm in
Speaker 1: a every month.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because our periods are kind as the same. So
Speaker 3: does my period come up full moon too? Probably? I
Speaker 3: don't be looking at the moons, but we're like three
Speaker 3: days off. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, it's.
Speaker 1: Happening on AKA when am I doing some kind of
Speaker 1: sex magics on my homegirl phone? Stop? I don't have Stop.
Speaker 1: She's like, you can't keep doing the shit, bro. You
Speaker 1: can't be saying like things like this is your pussy.
Speaker 1: You can't be saying that while you're in your period.
Speaker 3: Why you wanted to be his pushy? You said, I'm
Speaker 3: doing a spell.
Speaker 4: It gets mixing. Yeah, it depends. I feel different ways
Speaker 4: about it. First, you probably are doing sex magic. That's
Speaker 4: number one, especially because of the time with the moon
Speaker 4: of your period too. I don't have sex with my
Speaker 4: period so much.
Speaker 1: I need to thank you.
Speaker 3: I just I just don't want.
Speaker 1: Because I don't really like it.
Speaker 4: But to spiritually it doesn't really align because it kind
Speaker 4: of brings a sense of power to your words and
Speaker 4: what you're saying and what you're doing. And so when
Speaker 4: you're having sex on your period and sharing that blood
Speaker 4: with somebody and you're saying things to them, you could
Speaker 4: be doing binding that you don't want to do. Maybe
Speaker 4: you do want to do and say this is your pussy,
Speaker 4: this is mine. But say if that wasn't maybe y'all
Speaker 4: weren't cool anymore, y'all broke up and you don't want
Speaker 4: to be his anymore and it became an issue.
Speaker 2: It maybe creates chaos later down the line.
Speaker 3: So that's what I've said.
Speaker 1: In the movies.
Speaker 3: Like love spells having negative impacts, they often do, And
Speaker 3: so I don't want to right so in this yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you're fucking with a full moon in your period,
Speaker 3: it kind of is a love sait, it is. And
Speaker 3: so maybe he becomes a stalker when this doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: I don't know that has happened to people. So that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What are normally like the negative and that's real wood, bitch,
Speaker 3: Uh what what are the negative impacts? Then on doing
Speaker 3: spells that have good intention but you're still putting it
Speaker 3: on someone else.
Speaker 2: I would say that the first thing is love's going
Speaker 2: to come in here because I've been moving my bad.
Speaker 1: Oh hey wait, so even though I have no intent
Speaker 1: behind it, it is because we're saying I love you.
Speaker 4: What the fucking well, you there's some intent. Whatever the
Speaker 4: intent is, you're saying it, so you have an intention.
Speaker 4: It may not be that you never leave Oh maybe
Speaker 4: it is you never leave me. This is the only
Speaker 4: pusson you love And that's cool we're saying, but later
Speaker 4: down the line, it could backfire. That's the thing where
Speaker 4: any spell, with any work, anything can backfire. So it's
Speaker 4: just being mindful of like especially with blood magic and
Speaker 4: blood stuff. Just got to watch what makes that?
Speaker 3: What makes doing it with blood more sacred? Then say
Speaker 3: you just you know, not not ovulating or not or not,
Speaker 3: Like what makes it more sacred? Is it that it's
Speaker 3: the blood and like normally that's like sacrificial and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, Like you know what makes the blood more Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because then I do want to know too if for men,
Speaker 3: if there's a time that they're more powerful yeah, if
Speaker 3: they're you know, doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say blood is more sacred. It just represents
Speaker 4: so much like it's powerful, like there's power in the blood.
Speaker 4: You know, that's Christian Like, it's just it's just power
Speaker 4: in the blood. Like period, it represents life, it's what
Speaker 4: we need to live, like it is sacrificial.
Speaker 3: People sacrifice things with blood.
Speaker 2: That's why they sacrifice them.
Speaker 4: So engaging with blood, Like, there's certain deities I can't
Speaker 4: speak to while I'm on my period because the belief
Speaker 4: is that we're so strong and powerful and our intentions
Speaker 4: are so like wrong. I can't even interact with the
Speaker 4: deity because it could inter it could interrupt our connection
Speaker 4: to each other. So some spirits I can't talk to
Speaker 4: while I'm bleeding. So that's why I like be careful
Speaker 4: of what I'm doing on my period because you can
Speaker 4: really mess some stuff up.
Speaker 1: Or or bring good things. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: everything's going, Yeah, you doesn't have to be bad. It's
Speaker 1: not bad to till us then. And then there's stories
Speaker 1: about movies.
Speaker 3: No, there's so many movies where like they finally get
Speaker 3: the person that they love and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I got the person.
Speaker 2: I wrote it, I manifested, I got it.
Speaker 3: I did the spell for this person to love me,
Speaker 3: and then oftentimes the love turns into obsession or serial killers.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not heal.
Speaker 1: They believe in free will, though, Like I've never wanted
Speaker 1: to do a love spell, so that's why I'm like feeling.
Speaker 3: Okay about it. But what scary is.
Speaker 1: Someone gave me a reading when I first started dating him,
Speaker 1: and she said there's someone in your life that you're
Speaker 1: growing closer to, but it's being blocked because there's someone
Speaker 1: doing work on him.
Speaker 3: And I didn't really think it was him at the time.
Speaker 3: I think you did bring that up.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it was anything crazy because
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, maybe maybe it ain't girl. When
Speaker 1: I tell you, I said that it's him, and he
Speaker 1: said so fast because he loves fucking little spiritual hope.
Speaker 1: He was like that shouldn't work on me. Who He
Speaker 1: was like, they could try all they want. I got
Speaker 1: so many bitches.
Speaker 3: They could try.
Speaker 2: He's like, you love your low crystal rings when but.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that either. I think, maybe unknowingly, I
Speaker 1: think if someone's really working hard to get you. Maybe
Speaker 1: at some point maybe they could do a little something.
Speaker 1: But that's what kind of scares me.
Speaker 3: Do you think? And that was my question to that answer.
Speaker 1: Do you think that when people say I don't believe
Speaker 1: in magic, so it can't affect me if someone doesn't
Speaker 1: spell on me, then that's true.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think I can't. I can't run from
Speaker 2: the magic.
Speaker 4: There's some just really powerful witches out here, like I
Speaker 4: didn't even talk about myself, just people who are boring
Speaker 4: into this, who have done this, who are all over
Speaker 4: the world, all across the country, who will have you
Speaker 4: fucking falling over, breaking your neck, breaking an ankle because
Speaker 4: they didn't work on you. That's why people say, like
Speaker 4: to be careful of messing with witches and all of
Speaker 4: that and going over here to the Obia lady like
Speaker 4: there's so many stories within Caribbean with the African American
Speaker 4: lor African lord.
Speaker 1: Like you don't gotta believe it real quick you now
Speaker 1: on TV waitting you gotta podcast on it is.
Speaker 3: The nigga scared of you? Because to me, if I
Speaker 3: already don't like whole tep niggas, I don't like the
Speaker 3: like spiritual, good morning, grand rising queen ass niggas either
Speaker 3: you're the female version of that. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't grand you can get me rising like I
Speaker 1: feel like in the inside of you it's light.
Speaker 4: But I'm like with a woman like I don't even
Speaker 4: I'm in a relationship woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay are women? Are women afraid like that? Maybe
Speaker 3: you could be putting spells like when I don't just
Speaker 3: say she says she doesn't do it.
Speaker 5: That ship he was obsessed.
Speaker 2: So you might need to stop having period sex, bro.
Speaker 3: I mean, because you're casting spells on people, and it's
Speaker 3: not fair. They didn't sign up to have spells casting
Speaker 3: on their asses.
Speaker 4: It might be fine, it's fine. It's just saying, just
Speaker 4: know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 3: Like you should be aware.
Speaker 1: Does someone stop sex? Magic?
Speaker 3: Happiness to them? For everyone listening to this podcast.
Speaker 2: She just said, you can't stop it.
Speaker 4: Wait if you're having sex with them or someone's doing
Speaker 4: sex message when you're not around.
Speaker 1: There's a nigga right now swiping. He means a cutie.
Speaker 1: She's a little bit of a youth. Mm hmm. Now
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to not date her because that'd be
Speaker 1: fucked up. But also what things should someone watch out
Speaker 1: for in case there's.
Speaker 3: A bad witch.
Speaker 1: Oh, this ain't my hair, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So I can't it around?
Speaker 3: What little they can get it from the all right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not leaving hair around, not leaving drawers around.
Speaker 3: Underwear? What do they do with the underwear? What spells
Speaker 3: are done with underwear?
Speaker 4: You can probably boil some underwear to get the essence
Speaker 4: of the thing. Is like personal concerns is what we
Speaker 4: call them. So like nails, hair fluids from our body,
Speaker 4: all of these things can be worked in a spell.
Speaker 4: So it's being mindful of the things that you're leaving
Speaker 4: to have your personal concerns on them.
Speaker 3: But if I suck is dick, my saliva on the dick? Like,
Speaker 3: but how leave it I'm leaving? He could take a
Speaker 3: little Q tip and get my salava? Well he could could,
Speaker 3: he could Nobody it's gonna be the personals is gonna
Speaker 3: be around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't gotta leave your pair brush or
Speaker 4: leaving you clipping your nails and leaving it out like.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't like what what stuff you do with the
Speaker 3: boiling unawear? Yeah? What what is that?
Speaker 1: What is that spell boiling of underwear.
Speaker 4: Well, it would just be to get the essence of
Speaker 4: if there's like secretion, maybe the word to into the water.
Speaker 3: So then you could do anything with it.
Speaker 4: You could drink it, you could put it in on
Speaker 4: top of a spell, put it on top of a candle.
Speaker 3: You could do a bunch of different things with it.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anyone should be doing this, by
Speaker 4: the way, but that's a way that one could get
Speaker 4: the essence of that person, Like, oh, there's some stuff
Speaker 4: on the underwear, let me boil it.
Speaker 2: The essence is about.
Speaker 3: To be I'm spoken with or der. Let's get into
Speaker 3: I think she talked about sex magic, specifically with masturbation.
Speaker 3: I would love to get any sort of tips from
Speaker 3: you with how to manifest or use magic to have
Speaker 3: a better sex life. If you have any sort of
Speaker 3: tips or tricks or spells we could share with the world,
Speaker 3: I would love to know. Yeah, how would we go
Speaker 3: about doing that?
Speaker 4: I would say with sex magic and masturbation. Sex magic
Speaker 4: is my favorite time. What actually helped me would have
Speaker 4: better sex and do this better. Sex magic was one
Speaker 4: I was watching porn a lot at first, and I
Speaker 4: was I feel like it was. I just feel like
Speaker 4: now that you can't watch porn and do some magic,
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of interference. So I stopped completely
Speaker 4: watching porn while I and so I was thinking about
Speaker 4: what I really wanted, and I started to say monstiraus
Speaker 4: to myself that were actually about healing sexual traumas and
Speaker 4: like insecurities that I have around sex. So instead of
Speaker 4: like trying to manifest like, oh I hope I get
Speaker 4: this like good pessy or like this big dick, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking like, Okay, let me heal this thing that may
Speaker 4: have happened to me a while before that that constricts
Speaker 4: me from like being my full self when I'm with
Speaker 4: this person, or like I made it very specific about that,
Speaker 4: and that has actually increased my sex life, so not
Speaker 4: always just about like oh I'm trying to get a
Speaker 4: bag or I'm trying to do whatever. It's like, let
Speaker 4: me heal this thing, because I feel like that's a
Speaker 4: blockish for me right now in order to go to
Speaker 4: this next place.
Speaker 3: So that's what does that look like?
Speaker 1: Like? Are you fucking a crystal dildo?
Speaker 3: Are you not into that? Are you laying in the
Speaker 3: middle of a cross? What does what does that manifestation
Speaker 3: look like with magic or could it just.
Speaker 1: Be in my bed?
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I mean for me, I'm a very practical witch. Like yes,
Speaker 4: people do the crier, I'm not actually into all of that,
Speaker 4: Like I use it what I have, which is a
Speaker 4: very black spiritual thing to do, to use what you
Speaker 4: already got. So I just be in a house, I
Speaker 4: have a candle. I might light it, but it's not
Speaker 4: like a witchy candle, which just a regular ass candle
Speaker 4: that I have a Yankee candle, not the yankee they.
Speaker 1: Wed.
Speaker 2: I read this book which is Lets and Feminists.
Speaker 1: We brought on. I really liked the book, so we
Speaker 1: brought her on. And when she talked about sex magic,
Speaker 1: the only thing I've remember saying was light changing the
Speaker 1: lighting yeah, oh they don't got to be.
Speaker 2: But also just speaking into the things that you want.
Speaker 4: While you're yeah, while you're doing it, and especially when
Speaker 4: you're orgasming, really like envisioning what it is that you want,
Speaker 4: like before you're kind of thinking about it, but like
Speaker 4: when you're about to nut, it's like I have it.
Speaker 4: You're almost saying like thank you, it's mine over. So
Speaker 4: I swear that's how I got one of the things
Speaker 4: about like.
Speaker 1: I swear it's it's about I guess basically, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to ex blame it.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you y'all both trying.
Speaker 1: Here's the layman's terms. I feel like I can remember
Speaker 1: at the time. Basically, when we're orgasming, there's certain places
Speaker 1: that your mind needs to be that a witch can
Speaker 1: experience psychics, mediums that we aren't living at right, whether
Speaker 1: it be another dimension or you just can't get that
Speaker 1: close to the other realm. But when you're orgasming, your
Speaker 1: brain does for a good five to ten seconds. That's
Speaker 1: when it's when you're able to ask for what you want.
Speaker 1: So apparently that's what it is. Did I say that
Speaker 1: kind of right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like a visualization exercise with coming.
Speaker 3: Could you read off like a spell, like say the
Speaker 3: words of what I would tell myself if I wanted
Speaker 3: something to come about great in my sexual life, like.
Speaker 2: Or maybe I have given an example.
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, I am seeking intimacy with a partner. So
Speaker 3: the sexual romance relationship that I'm seeking is not just
Speaker 3: through penetration.
Speaker 2: It's through finding a man that kind of can.
Speaker 3: Actually see my soul and know how to treat like
Speaker 3: make me feel special without having a fuck me.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3: Yes, So what would that look like? How would I
Speaker 3: what what's the conjuring of that? Okay, that's cute. Okay.
Speaker 4: So you can start off with your normal I mean,
Speaker 4: your regular masturbation routine, wherever you'll be at, whatever you've
Speaker 4: been doing, whatever you got, you got your things, okay.
Speaker 4: And so then before you like actually start to touch
Speaker 4: off or whatever.
Speaker 3: Don't you think she shouldn't use fourn though.
Speaker 1: I would say, no, point, damn, there's a lot of interference, okay,
Speaker 1: not that you maybe start off maybe you can get.
Speaker 2: There okay, Yeah, so okay I'm there.
Speaker 3: Get yourself there.
Speaker 2: Or I would say, if you need porn to just
Speaker 2: get a little active.
Speaker 3: But then turn it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So then you're like, okay, I'm what am I manifestor
Speaker 4: now I'm trying to manifest this man that I really
Speaker 4: want to say, Okay, this man looks like this, he tall,
Speaker 4: he whatever is you know, nice body, sexy, nice lips,
Speaker 4: and he does this for work or he makes about
Speaker 4: this much money. I can be that particular it should
Speaker 4: be you want to be specific when you're asking.
Speaker 2: For things, So go, okay, keep going into it.
Speaker 4: Huh okay, he told he fine, he makes this much money,
Speaker 4: he respects me, and I meet him out, but he
Speaker 4: actually doesn't even want to fuck me.
Speaker 1: The first time I meet him.
Speaker 2: He wants to take me out and he wants to
Speaker 2: learn about who I am and where I'm from, Da.
Speaker 1: Da, And.
Speaker 3: You're thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Wow, so you're thinking of all the qualities you want,
Speaker 4: and then when you come, it's almost like you see
Speaker 4: him and he's yours already, and you're almost like thank you, Like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's mine, Like that's my man, He's here.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy because I think, and this may be
Speaker 3: the case with so many people we masturbas specifically, if
Speaker 3: you're not watching porn, you're going off of lived experiences
Speaker 3: or past partners and so for what were fantasies and
Speaker 3: so for what sex. And this is probably so fucked up.
Speaker 3: Especially when I watched like trans porn or pegging porn
Speaker 3: or the things that like I don't do often but
Speaker 3: I want to do. I actually find myself yelling out
Speaker 3: the name of Howards that allowed me to do it.
Speaker 3: And what's crazy is the nigga. I was just in
Speaker 3: Miami with He laughed at me, uh, because I woke
Speaker 3: up one morning and I was like, what's crazy is
Speaker 3: I came to you last night? He was like, well,
Speaker 3: what picture did you look at? I said, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I just yelled.
Speaker 2: I just kept saying your name, because that's given. I
Speaker 2: just kept saying.
Speaker 3: And then clearly two weeks later, I want the nigga.
Speaker 3: But sounds like spoke is bad, not no, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was that. I was like to me though, And
Speaker 3: so I did want to ask, is there harm in
Speaker 3: masturbating that way?
Speaker 2: Thinking of the magic realm that we're going to?
Speaker 1: Not Delulu?
Speaker 2: I think this is all actually just be in de Lulu,
Speaker 2: but the magical realm?
Speaker 3: Is there harm in yelling out or speaking past partners
Speaker 3: names during masturbation or even people that have done me wrong?
Speaker 3: Like I feel so awful that I still can say
Speaker 3: that my ex the sex was so good and I
Speaker 3: actually still replay things back in my mind about it,
Speaker 3: and I feel awful that I do that.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not good for my.
Speaker 2: Healing right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so is there a bad Is there anything
Speaker 3: bad or negative with doing that?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's. I don't think I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: believe it.
Speaker 4: Always in bad and negative things just are what they
Speaker 4: are and they have Everything has a consequence. So I
Speaker 4: think when you're doing that, I mean, yeah, maybe that
Speaker 4: person turns you ont so that's why you're doing it.
Speaker 4: But it is a way that you're kind of manifesting something.
Speaker 4: You could be putting energy towards this thing that you.
Speaker 3: Don't that you don't want.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you call this name when you're playing
Speaker 1: with your pissy, like now you're the fucked up horrible said,
Speaker 1: you gotta get to these ghost fucking bitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, we gotta get it. So I've been waiting all episode.
Speaker 1: For this, id how did you end up fucking and ghosts?
Speaker 3: Okay, we're theist.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's like a charmed But I see,
Speaker 4: I just learned mostly about that kind of terminology.
Speaker 3: Is it like one of the demons? Is it a demon?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's.
Speaker 3: I don't think the incubis are succubist. I think it's
Speaker 3: when they fun but the succubists like they be killing
Speaker 3: the bitches after at least some charm they did.
Speaker 4: Keep going shit, it's a little different. Okay, So I
Speaker 4: was laying in my bed. This is one of the
Speaker 4: Chicago at the time. I was just laying in my
Speaker 4: bed and chilling, not even feeling sexual. My nipples start
Speaker 4: getting hard, like I just start getting wet out of nowhere,
Speaker 4: and that doesn't necessarily happen unless I'm being stimulated. I wasn't,
Speaker 4: so I'm like, oh shit. So then I start to
Speaker 4: like grab my my own neck like I start I've
Speaker 4: never done those. I just loot to like grab my
Speaker 4: own neck and start choking myself, and my pussy is
Speaker 4: getting so like I'm soaking wet, my nipples are hard,
Speaker 4: like I take the rest of my clothes off, and
Speaker 4: then like I kind of am touching myself but not
Speaker 4: really and maybe five minutes later I just orgasmed and
Speaker 4: it was just so like but it felt like there
Speaker 4: was a pressure on top of me, like pushing me
Speaker 4: down into the as if someone was laying on top
Speaker 4: of me.
Speaker 1: Was it nights like late at night like it was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Superlet's probably like ten and it just overcame
Speaker 4: me and it just was like I felt this pressure
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, I feel like I'm having sex.
Speaker 3: With a ghost, I really do.
Speaker 2: And I came. I don't know if I've ever came
Speaker 2: that much since ever ever.
Speaker 3: It was the best. You moaned, Yes, I was creaming, coming, screaming,
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 1: Did this last?
Speaker 3: It was about five minutes. That's longer than like human
Speaker 3: niggas say it can't be. And it was the best.
Speaker 1: You capture it as a man a woman, when I
Speaker 1: think it was a man, and by.
Speaker 3: Man would be An incubist an incombus is a demon
Speaker 3: in malk form in folklore that seeks to have sexual
Speaker 3: intercourse with sleeping women, though the corresponding spirit in female
Speaker 3: form is called a succubist, so suckubists an incubusiness man.
Speaker 3: But you weren't sleeping. I was awake. This is you,
Speaker 3: so maybe this is the kiss. Like, so you were awake.
Speaker 3: I was awake, so didn't scare you. It scared me
Speaker 3: a little bit, but I was. I'm awake.
Speaker 4: I'm a like I know the spirit. So I'm just
Speaker 4: kind of like, I think I have a spirit husband.
Speaker 4: And that's something that I've always felt people be having
Speaker 4: spirit husbands, especially women, and a lot of times it's
Speaker 4: what's messing up their relationships and they don't want to
Speaker 4: talk about it.
Speaker 3: This is tea like a spirit husband, So real quick?
Speaker 3: Did you have to imagine what you think he looked
Speaker 3: like like?
Speaker 1: Because what if he was ugly?
Speaker 4: I didn't really see it was like I knew someone
Speaker 4: was on me, but I didn't couldn't really see what
Speaker 4: he looked.
Speaker 3: Wait, how did you go there? Go back? What the
Speaker 3: fuck is the spirit husband? And do these niggas have spirit?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them do? Some of them do? Wont No?
Speaker 4: No, okay, keep going so and a lot of your husband, yes,
Speaker 4: and a lot of different traditions beyond Africa, all of
Speaker 4: the world. They have a concept of a spirit that
Speaker 4: has not left you, or someone that you may have
Speaker 4: been married to or with in a past life. Sometimes
Speaker 4: when people move on or die, we go into another
Speaker 4: realm our.
Speaker 3: Old lovers stay with us.
Speaker 4: And a lot of times old lovers will interfere in
Speaker 4: our current relationships, and they'll reak havoc, and they'll bring
Speaker 4: ancient niggas. They'll do all these things because they don't
Speaker 4: want you to be.
Speaker 1: The world has a spirit husband. What you mean the world?
Speaker 1: Because they're fucked up.
Speaker 3: In this world?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Wow, we're so cut off from like our
Speaker 4: spirituality and indigenous traditions. We all actually could have these
Speaker 4: past things that are messing us up and don't know.
Speaker 3: So when this happened to you, did you tell somebody?
Speaker 3: Did you try to up the like ghost cameras for
Speaker 3: the next time it happened, Like I need to know, like,
Speaker 3: did it happen again, because you did say that that
Speaker 3: was the best orgasm of your life? But did he
Speaker 3: come back? Didn't need to be a spirit husband is
Speaker 3: given one night fan.
Speaker 4: Like wow, My relationships at the time were terrible, Like
Speaker 4: with it was very especially with men. My relationships with
Speaker 4: women are okay, and I still actually think I have
Speaker 4: a spirit husband a lot, which my relationship with women
Speaker 4: are always great and fine. I really feel like he's
Speaker 4: like you cannot be with on niggause. I still feel
Speaker 4: like that, but he doesn't come and have sex. But
Speaker 4: maybe he's just jealous of other men. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's what it is. They are jealous and so they
Speaker 4: recavoc in your relationships. Until I went to an elder
Speaker 4: in a EFI tradition, I was like, I had this experience,
Speaker 4: I think I have a spirit husband, and he did
Speaker 4: a reading, and he was like, you do, and you
Speaker 4: have to go through this certain ceremony in order to
Speaker 4: rid yourself of it and it'll stop happening.
Speaker 3: Did you do that?
Speaker 1: I did, and it stopped happening. But why would you
Speaker 1: want to stop the best orgasm of your life? Because
Speaker 1: I didn't need no niggas down a product him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but my relationships were a mess, like I was
Speaker 4: like I need at the time. I was like, I
Speaker 4: want to be with somebody like you want to be
Speaker 4: able a human. I want to be with a human.
Speaker 4: You can't be messing up my life.
Speaker 1: Like did you.
Speaker 3: Feel anything in your pussy or was this all like
Speaker 3: just contact?
Speaker 1: Orgasm?
Speaker 2: Did feel like? It did feel like there was a
Speaker 2: sense it was big.
Speaker 1: It's that full or you didn't feel like litoria felt full,
Speaker 1: like something was inside it.
Speaker 4: I felt like something was inside of me, someone was
Speaker 4: on top of me, and that I was being stimulated
Speaker 4: in my.
Speaker 1: Clip got a big dick, Oh he could fuck.
Speaker 3: I want to ghost dick Because then I was thinking too,
Speaker 3: like if ghosts, like I know they were once people,
Speaker 3: but like aliens, I wonder if they could like shape
Speaker 3: shift and just have a bigger dick because they did,
Speaker 3: like if there's magical, like maybe maybe there's powers in
Speaker 3: being dead, Like they can clearly fly, they can float
Speaker 3: and ship. Have you ever had any kind of spiritual
Speaker 3: like this type of shit? You ever seen it? Goest? Nothing?
Speaker 1: So tell you about something I got one.
Speaker 3: I used to be real scared actually, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe this was my imagination as a child. So when
Speaker 3: we used to drive from Orlando to Inverness to see
Speaker 3: my grandmama, there used to be just these hills and
Speaker 3: they were only hills because it's Florida, it's flat land,
Speaker 3: but there was hills, and bitch, I used to think
Speaker 3: I saw little kids like skipping on the hills all
Speaker 3: the time. And I used to be so fucking yeah,
Speaker 3: I suld of got like the little old in the
Speaker 3: prairie ass kids like white kids.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck am I seeing all these white kids?
Speaker 3: But they had the little prairie outfits and they would
Speaker 3: be skipping through the goddamn shit, And I'd be like, bitch,
Speaker 3: why am I seeing kids on the highway going to
Speaker 3: see my grandmama. That's the only time. And I think
Speaker 3: I may have told my mom at one time, like
Speaker 3: that's the only time I used to be like, this
Speaker 3: is so strange that this is what I'm seeing. I
Speaker 3: believe you really saw that, bitch, I didn't. I was imagining, shit, man,
Speaker 3: why don't like a paying or something. I was so
Speaker 3: scared that I saw these kids and they were like
Speaker 3: playing on the fucking hills. But this was only when
Speaker 3: I was little, only on my way to go see
Speaker 3: my not the.
Speaker 1: Hills have eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives that.
Speaker 1: So I had too one. I was dating this dude,
Speaker 1: this white dude back in the day.
Speaker 5: His name is Dennis.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. I got the dog
Speaker 1: with him. He was a chef that lived with Cooley. Okay,
Speaker 1: so anyway, we go to Jacksonville to see or no
Speaker 1: Saint Augustine, which has a lot of paran Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we go to this ghost story. It was fun, went
Speaker 1: on the little school bus. It was a thing. He
Speaker 1: was white, he was Moldovan and there was other white
Speaker 1: people on the store. Right we off the bus. It's
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, but I was like, why do I
Speaker 1: keep hearing drums? Because I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: I asked two times do you hear that?
Speaker 1: And he was like no, I heard like standard like
Speaker 1: African drums and shit, it's you know. When we got inside,
Speaker 1: we found out this ship was built on a slave plantation.
Speaker 1: The whole we visited a jail. Excuse me, the ghost
Speaker 1: site we visited was a jail and it was built
Speaker 1: on a fucking plantation.
Speaker 3: I heard the drums from.
Speaker 1: When we was driving. I believe we was there.
Speaker 3: I was, oh wow, that freaked me out. I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 3: He didn't hear it. There was nobody else that was black,
Speaker 3: and I was like, didch imagine someone who.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't half No, I'm not gonna hold you.
Speaker 2: I wish someone black was on that one.
Speaker 1: Now I do too, because, like, literally, I believe it.
Speaker 1: It's not even like I They just started talking about
Speaker 1: what was there before the jail, and they said that
Speaker 1: there was a lot of slave revolt.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the second time?
Speaker 3: Second time?
Speaker 1: Some people say it was fake because we had space brownie. However,
Speaker 1: I later found out that mushrooms and certain drugs just
Speaker 1: opened the portal for your brain to then see ghost
Speaker 1: I was with my ex at the time the first one,
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen him. We go to Amsterdam, We
Speaker 1: take brownies. Maybe ten hours go by. We both wake
Speaker 1: up out of our sleep. I've heard Charlotte say this,
Speaker 1: the dancing people on your body. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? When ghosts like they hold you down
Speaker 1: when they're sleeping on top of you. It's like a
Speaker 1: It's like an old saying basically, ghosts hold you down
Speaker 1: in your sleep. Oh, sleep arouses, sleep paralysis. But they
Speaker 1: say that there's sometimes it feels like people are dance.
Speaker 3: Wake up.
Speaker 1: I see a man in the room. I squeezed him
Speaker 1: to wake up. He sees the exact same man.
Speaker 3: We don't know what to do. He's like, let's just
Speaker 3: go back to sleep. Let's try to go back to sleep.
Speaker 3: This was a white man too. This was this was
Speaker 3: a black man that just saw a ghost and said,
Speaker 3: let's just go back to sleep.
Speaker 1: It was whoa.
Speaker 3: He was literally sleeping there.
Speaker 1: Made it mark for that he was looking at because
Speaker 1: Mandy knows him sitting there. I haven't talked to him
Speaker 1: in years, but I wonder if he has thought about
Speaker 1: this a few times.
Speaker 2: The way we were looking with like maybe he'll leave
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1: This is Amsterdam, and the woman asked me how I slept.
Speaker 1: I'll go get the birthet breakfast. I remember telling him this.
Speaker 1: I was crying. I was like it was kind of weird,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I was high, but we saw
Speaker 1: someone in our room. She goes, oh my god. There
Speaker 1: was like, uh, what does she say happen? There was
Speaker 1: an old building that burned down and people see ghosts
Speaker 1: all the time here in the arts district. Said it's
Speaker 1: super normal. It's harmless.
Speaker 3: Our ghosts really harmless. I mean it can be so
Speaker 3: clearly they could touch Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can they hurt?
Speaker 2: You should be scared? How do we release one? What
Speaker 2: should we say?
Speaker 4: They can be harmful, but a lot of times they're
Speaker 4: just harm A lot of times they're just like us
Speaker 4: walking around us where they used to live.
Speaker 3: They could be eight ship but they could be good people. Correct,
Speaker 3: it's just like people. Oh well, how could.
Speaker 1: It ghost be harmful if they can't do anything to
Speaker 1: you technically?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that they can do things. They can
Speaker 4: mess up things around you. They can confuse you, they
Speaker 4: can hide your things. They can touch you, like if
Speaker 4: they can make her come right, which is great, but
Speaker 4: that could be it could have been the opposite of that.
Speaker 4: You know, like they can do the ghost and you know,
Speaker 4: I've actually talked about this before, because.
Speaker 3: In a way, I kind of didn't and I'd be having.
Speaker 1: A bitch you just said your nipples go like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know where I didn't give consent.
Speaker 3: So that's another that's the other half.
Speaker 4: Of it that like I'd be thinking about too, like
Speaker 4: I didn't quite give consent.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the episode you had on your podcast
Speaker 1: called My Ancestors Hoes.
Speaker 3: How did you know?
Speaker 2: First off, because we've been.
Speaker 3: And that's simply it. Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the hose from answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was basically I wanted an episode because I
Speaker 4: think because sexuality is so demonized and especially in like
Speaker 4: spiritual and religious spaces, there's a lot of shame around
Speaker 4: sex and all of that, and and even in the spiritual,
Speaker 4: spiritual girly spaces, and I'm like, I practiced something where
Speaker 4: there's not shame in sexuality in my practice and my religion,
Speaker 4: Like sex'st not taboo, it's not any of that. It's
Speaker 4: natural as a part of life. And so I wanted
Speaker 4: to have an episode where I was like, y'all, I
Speaker 4: know personally, I have stories of the people that I
Speaker 4: descended from who would be considered pose in this day
Speaker 4: and age. I got great auntie. I had aunties who
Speaker 4: ran a shot house, which is like a place in
Speaker 4: Baltimore where you would sell illegal alcohol, and they did
Speaker 4: bar It was like a club in the house in
Speaker 4: the basement.
Speaker 2: How did that make the mahos though?
Speaker 3: No, it was it was going It was everything going
Speaker 3: on in now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm like, no, we all of us
Speaker 4: probably have someone in our ancestry who was doing something
Speaker 4: and that would not be considered like pure. So well, right,
Speaker 4: but I'm saying, like our wholeness is not it's not
Speaker 4: to we were just hosts in twenty twenty four, like
Speaker 4: we've been hold Like you said, it is whole reditary.
Speaker 3: Hoeen is old, but we talk about prostitution being the
Speaker 3: old the first job. Yeah, it never gets deleted, right,
Speaker 3: And we descend from these people who were also hoeing.
Speaker 3: So that was my point in saying that, like we
Speaker 3: we descend from host So do.
Speaker 1: You think that that sexuality can be passed down? Like
Speaker 1: my aunt passed but my mom sometimes which is also
Speaker 1: really weird because she's dead, but like sometimes I'll talk
Speaker 1: about how horny I am. She'd be like your aunt
Speaker 1: is just like that and like she always talks about
Speaker 1: how my grandma would be horny. She'd be like, or
Speaker 1: me and my aunt this person in the family, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck. Then my cousin right was
Speaker 1: at the Avina words.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing two years in a row?
Speaker 3: Oh wow? I was like being like, he just I
Speaker 3: be here. I'll say, oh, your cousin a little free
Speaker 3: because maybe it's the second year in a row. It's
Speaker 3: a guy.
Speaker 1: He's a guy, but like, literally my nigga meets him,
Speaker 1: my cousin for the first time.
Speaker 3: He was my first family member he met.
Speaker 1: He met my mother. After I was like, he a wow, boy, he.
Speaker 3: Said, this is a thing in your family. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know that is crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I met your parents at a dinner,
Speaker 1: but I mind you.
Speaker 3: Life worked out because we ended up like he was
Speaker 3: our manager. He was holding our prices. He got you
Speaker 3: with us period. This year, we literally run into him
Speaker 3: in the lobby. We're like, you're.
Speaker 1: Here again.
Speaker 3: As a guest. See the crazy. On the contrary, my
Speaker 3: father's not like that.
Speaker 1: My father is the one who's not back he's Israeli,
Speaker 1: but basically he would always talk about how like he
Speaker 1: was always a one woman man, like hasn't been a
Speaker 1: lot of women, wasn't interested in that? So can our
Speaker 1: family be an influence? And again, is it because I
Speaker 1: grew up watching my mom be open and free and
Speaker 1: talking about sex because I was born this way into
Speaker 1: hold him?
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's both.
Speaker 4: And I think it's the scientific like nature versus nurture,
Speaker 4: Like is it how we were born or is it
Speaker 4: how we are nurtured.
Speaker 3: I think it's both.
Speaker 4: I think because you see your mom be free and
Speaker 4: what my mom was super free too, So that's why
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like this. But also I know
Speaker 4: that I descend from people and I've heard stories of
Speaker 4: my ancestors and even my mama encouraging me to be
Speaker 4: on hoho shit. And I'd be like, why would you
Speaker 4: say that as a mother. She's like, I mean I
Speaker 4: did that? Like you need to have experiences if that's
Speaker 4: what you want to do. Oh yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 4: I have a very open mind.
Speaker 1: Now tell us about sorry the on Hulu? You have
Speaker 1: a TV show? What's the TV show Living for the Dead?
Speaker 1: And you get paranormal activity in a strip club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we go.
Speaker 4: No, we go to different haunted places in the US,
Speaker 4: and each place has a problem and issue, Like so
Speaker 4: the people who are working there or living there, they're
Speaker 4: having a problem.
Speaker 3: They think it's paranormal.
Speaker 4: So they call me and my four O the co hosts,
Speaker 4: and we go and we investigate to see, like is
Speaker 4: it paranormal and if so, what can we do?
Speaker 3: What's happening? So, yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 4: This was in the Palamino in Vegas, the Palomino Strip Club, Vegas.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've never been there, never even heard of it.
Speaker 1: So it's one of the old it's something to what
Speaker 1: I forgot something? What did you see in there? What
Speaker 1: was it feeling like?
Speaker 4: So when we went there, the girls were basically telling
Speaker 4: us that they feel like an energy is really watching
Speaker 4: them and sometimes they get touched while they're on stage,
Speaker 4: not by people, and being groped, not by.
Speaker 3: Living the time of their life. So yeah, so we
Speaker 3: did realize.
Speaker 4: We put up cameras and we did little sessions or whatever,
Speaker 4: so many different things we did, and we saw that
Speaker 4: there were a lot of customers who still who used
Speaker 4: to frequent there very often. This was around in the
Speaker 4: mob time, so there was like some mobster energy still
Speaker 4: going on there what And but one of the people
Speaker 4: who was actually touching the girls that was actually a
Speaker 4: former manager who had died, who was there for a
Speaker 4: really long time, and it was him.
Speaker 3: His name was Perry.
Speaker 4: And something came up on one of our little things
Speaker 4: that said Perry or something close to it, I don't
Speaker 4: remember now, and we were like, who's that and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: Perry is the former owner who used to like hit
Speaker 4: the girls, like get on stage, like get on like
Speaker 4: like touch them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was one of the things.
Speaker 1: I want you to go to a trap house. Get
Speaker 1: in a motherfucking trap. I would love to see what
Speaker 1: goes on in the trap killed their friends then a lot. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know this is a very horrible, but that just
Speaker 1: made me think about it, I started.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was to think though, like if if
Speaker 3: I passed and I'm stuck in the what is this
Speaker 3: just the regular realm and I don't get to go
Speaker 3: to the top or the bottom, I don't know whatever
Speaker 3: y'all want to call it.
Speaker 1: I wonder where where my spirit will live?
Speaker 3: Were you places you frequent sex?
Speaker 1: If somebody feels something they ask.
Speaker 3: I would consent, like so maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make my final question before we get into home.
Speaker 1: I really do want to do this homemail with you.
Speaker 1: Tell me about offerings and altars and if you could
Speaker 1: ever make a sexual one, like, tell me what that is.
Speaker 1: Because a few weeks ago, one of our engineers had
Speaker 1: went to a girl's house she had about an altar. I
Speaker 1: heard that it was Danny, and I'm a few friends
Speaker 1: that have altars and it doesn't freak me out.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of my friends has about Tannica and.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 3: I actually, again, hypocurd of me. I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 3: y'all which friend. But I have a friend that has
Speaker 3: an altar in her house and literally manifested the perfect
Speaker 3: man and she has not left his house for the
Speaker 3: last month. They are like inseparable and when I tell you, damn,
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you where we just were, but
Speaker 3: we hang out a lot, and literally a month and
Speaker 3: a half ago, she miserable, didn't like anybody. This guy
Speaker 3: she met in the DMS and she's like, well, I
Speaker 3: have an altar and I've been She was like, Mandy,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be my husband. I've been praying for
Speaker 3: him to the tea. Everything she asks fors him, like
Speaker 3: to where it's kind of scary. I said, Mitch, if
Speaker 3: you don't come build an altar in my mother, it
Speaker 3: was like, what a wow, she's bi racial bitch, jes
Speaker 3: a thing. I'm not doing it, but yeah, like literally
Speaker 3: has found someone that makes her so happy.
Speaker 1: Now in an alter though, from what I've heard, you've
Speaker 1: got to like be offering things to your ancestors.
Speaker 3: So can you tell us a little bit about not yours?
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean shrines
Speaker 4: can be altars can be for different things. I have
Speaker 4: ancestor authors. I got shrines because I have Areasha, like
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of things. But you can also
Speaker 4: have alter to yourself. But it's basically a place where
Speaker 4: you are honoring something and you're giving your showing a
Speaker 4: sacredness and you're inviting that energy into your space. So
Speaker 4: some people and sometimes the readings, I'll be like, you
Speaker 4: actually need an alter for yourself, Like you need to
Speaker 4: pour into yourself. So you put the pictures of yourself
Speaker 4: up that you most like, and you like candles for
Speaker 4: yourself and you do workings to like enhance your yourself,
Speaker 4: which I always encourage people to do before you try
Speaker 4: to do work on other people. You actually can just
Speaker 4: juju yourself and like be lit or find a mate.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like alters are just places that are shrines
Speaker 4: that you're acknowledging something inviting spirits into. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: have altered for ancestors and a whole bunch of things.
Speaker 4: And oh baby, I probably got like six how you
Speaker 4: got the room in New York. They're not huge, they
Speaker 4: can be so so it could just be on like
Speaker 4: a little side table.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. Yeah. For anyone that might think this isn't real,
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that I've taken from it
Speaker 1: and just learning about having a lot of witchy friends
Speaker 1: and just honestly a lot of Haitian friends and a
Speaker 1: lot of Dominican friends mainly. But it's that maybe you
Speaker 1: feel so much better after you do it, maybe you
Speaker 1: just start believing. Maybe it's in alignment with manifesting. If
Speaker 1: all of this isn't real, but manifesting low key works.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily the spill it fairytale thing. It's truly
Speaker 1: rewiring your brain. When I talk to rich people like
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying millionaire rich. I'm talking billionaire
Speaker 1: rich or atleast hundred hundred millions. Right. They always talk
Speaker 1: about things like they have them already or like it
Speaker 1: was just destined and.
Speaker 3: Close the deals that they haven't yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, I mean most people know, duh. I
Speaker 1: talk about all the time working for Kenyan Barris. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has a billion dollars with that
Speaker 1: nig could be signed a hundred million dollar deals. And
Speaker 1: whenever I'm talking about work with him, he talks about
Speaker 1: his next project, maybe something he didn't even touch yet. Bro,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like it's not even existing or and I
Speaker 1: don't even think he's doing it on purpose. I think
Speaker 1: you are just genuinely that type of energy. However, if
Speaker 1: you're not that person, what that literally translates to is manifestation.
Speaker 4: You know, like visualizing and changing your mindset and being intentional.
Speaker 4: Like that's really all it is. So even if the
Speaker 4: spirits weren't real, I know that they are, but maybe
Speaker 4: they're not.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
Speaker 4: That shit works. It makes me feel fucking better, Like
Speaker 4: it shifted my framework and shift in my life. I
Speaker 4: feel better. It makes a lot of people feel better.
Speaker 4: It makes us feel more confident in who we are.
Speaker 4: And so if it's something that's bringing this positive energy,
Speaker 4: like why not do it?
Speaker 1: Has there any any anything while pulling this up, anything
Speaker 1: in the world you've seen that you thought was witchcraft?
Speaker 3: Like in most things, most things, I think, most like
Speaker 3: Trump when the presidency. You think if I think, I think,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was voodoo, but I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially billionaires and millionaires, they have
Speaker 3: people because I know the people, they have people that
Speaker 3: are doing works for them.
Speaker 4: They have people doing animal sacrifice for them. They have
Speaker 4: people reading the stars and moves.
Speaker 2: You believe in the Illuminati, Oh yeah, huh, yes, it's real.
Speaker 3: I think it's real.
Speaker 2: You think it's real.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's real like how people say, okay,
Speaker 4: but I do think it is a real group.
Speaker 3: But it's that like the sacrificing and things like that
Speaker 3: that they normally attached to it and someone becoming famous.
Speaker 1: Those are you believe spells I think the people do
Speaker 1: and hard work. I think it's all of it. I
Speaker 1: think it can be talent, it hard work.
Speaker 4: But I also think that people go through ceremonies to
Speaker 4: completely sell their soul in order to do something I do.
Speaker 1: It's okay, let's get it.
Speaker 5: This home mail.
Speaker 1: This one's kind of tea. Actually I really like it. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: it says sorry, it's not tea, but it's good. High hose.
Speaker 1: I love the show saw you guys in Charlotte. Truly
Speaker 1: great experience. Ah hose, bitch, you can't call it. So
Speaker 1: I'm bumping heads with my family right now, specifically my
Speaker 1: evangelist mother. My youngest brother.
Speaker 3: Is twenty three and autistic. We'll call him John.
Speaker 1: John falls within the moderate early range on the spectrum,
Speaker 1: meaning he comprehends everything, but he can't form sentences. He
Speaker 1: can't live on his own. In twenty nineteen, my older
Speaker 1: brother and his friend friends ran into some women they
Speaker 1: knew while they were out with John.
Speaker 3: John was drawn to one, in.
Speaker 1: Particular, let's call her Sharie. He did something we never
Speaker 1: saw him do before. He walked up to her, looked
Speaker 1: her in her eyes, kissed her, and said Hi, I'm John.
Speaker 1: We explained his autism to her. She had no problem
Speaker 1: expressing interest in him. Also, turns out she was a
Speaker 1: stripper and his quote unquote dated other disabled men. My
Speaker 1: older brother and I worked out an agreement with her
Speaker 1: to casually date him, but regularly get tested in case
Speaker 1: that he expresses any kind of sexual interest, intentionally excluding
Speaker 1: my mom and my older sister from this agreement. John
Speaker 1: sees Shari monthly. We all get dinner, drop them off
Speaker 1: to my mother's while she's at work, and no, Lie,
Speaker 1: the stripper says, my brother be working her ass Ooh
Speaker 1: that's funny. Fast forward, she ran into him at his job. Shari,
Speaker 1: his man told my mom that some woman came in.
Speaker 1: My brother grabbed her arms, he kissed her, and she
Speaker 1: kept calling him daddy in front of everyone. I explained
Speaker 1: to my mom who she was. She wanted me to
Speaker 1: end it immediately, since he cannot verbally consent. The problem is,
Speaker 1: I'm into deep. I had Shari get two to three
Speaker 1: other girls to start dating his other special needs friends.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I don't get paid a disabled ring.
Speaker 1: Every time girls see them, but I get paid for
Speaker 1: the initial meetup and they need a chaperone.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm.
Speaker 1: Helping the special needs community get pleasure and pussy like
Speaker 1: the rest of us. Plus it's improving their social skills
Speaker 1: and making them happy. My mother and my sister say
Speaker 1: I'm making these man tricks and keep threatening the police.
Speaker 1: Should I stop or is way? Is there a way
Speaker 1: to make this a legit side hustle? Thanks, but my
Speaker 1: brother's favorite sister yo side hustle. I love her second, Yes,
Speaker 1: there is a way to make it a side hustle.
Speaker 1: How because this has nothing to do with sexuality. This
Speaker 1: has to do with dating, Like.
Speaker 3: I'm not matchmaker.
Speaker 2: She calling the nigga daddy. They might be fucking, I mean, if.
Speaker 3: They're fucking, but also that's their choice on what they
Speaker 3: decide to do. So that's but that is the problem.
Speaker 3: And that the mom is saying is that because he
Speaker 3: can't form sentences, how is he actually able to consent
Speaker 3: to these things? He fucking went up and didn't kissed
Speaker 3: the bitch, which is she? Man, I'm gonna say this, fuck.
Speaker 1: The PC shit, Okay, Okay, I don't care. Yes, I'm interested.
Speaker 1: There are sex workers, strippers that have understood body language
Speaker 1: and are sure field in that ship. And you want
Speaker 1: to tell me that someone would be taking advantage of
Speaker 1: someone they're getting paid for. They could just literally sit
Speaker 1: there like if there's a connection with someone, you don't
Speaker 1: always need words. I'm sorry, Like when I go and
Speaker 1: there was a nursing home visit. I had once with
Speaker 1: someone who was a neighbor to someone who is visiting,
Speaker 1: and their nonverbal every time their wife comes in the room,
Speaker 1: the eyes change like the like you see excitement. So
Speaker 1: I don't believe you need a verbatim and forward out. Yes,
Speaker 1: fuck me, I've consented so many times by my body language. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think this is healthy. I obviously think there's
Speaker 1: a way to cross a boundary that could be too far. However,
Speaker 1: you might need to become something. You need to watch
Speaker 1: Sex Cells season three, sex Surrogacy. I think this episode
Speaker 1: five bitch sex surrogates do this. It basically help people
Speaker 1: that I was actually gonna lean her more into matchmaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sure.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like I mean, like sex surgacy will
Speaker 1: help you understand disabled disability and sexuality. But basically, like
Speaker 1: these people have been trained their therapists. It's covered with
Speaker 1: it's like literally real.
Speaker 2: On the spectrum.
Speaker 1: But that's what they're doing. These strippers.
Speaker 3: They're real fucking sex surrogates right now. But are they?
Speaker 3: I think I can. I think actually the problem is
Speaker 3: and that's probably what the mom and sister have a
Speaker 3: problem with this that she is monetizing off of this.
Speaker 2: So to me, but you've taken.
Speaker 3: Advantage of these disabled men by charging them to get
Speaker 3: them like.
Speaker 1: And are maybe not but maybe they don't want.
Speaker 3: The trick sex work aspect of it all. Like now
Speaker 3: you're paying for these women, which is also what I
Speaker 3: didn't like either. I don't like that because she's a
Speaker 3: sex worker, as if it couldn't have been any other
Speaker 3: just random normal girl that they put because she's a stripper,
Speaker 3: we make her get tested monthly. Like that was a
Speaker 3: little weird addition to that. I think it's because she's
Speaker 3: she's the same people for money, though I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a stripper thing.
Speaker 2: So is she hiring sex workers.
Speaker 1: Dating? Yeah, but all strippers don't fuck for mine, I know,
Speaker 1: but this one is they all are. I'm taking it
Speaker 1: as that one. She said she's helping the other niggas
Speaker 1: get plussy, But you said dating that it might not mean.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it doesn't.
Speaker 3: We need more details.
Speaker 1: Here's why I said, starting a business. Escorting is not sex.
Speaker 1: It's not all the time, but all the time. So
Speaker 1: if you want to start this business to give people companionship,
Speaker 1: and have experiences and touch like that's a thing.
Speaker 3: I want to ask y'all because here we go, since
Speaker 3: we're about to get canceled anyway, how much money would
Speaker 3: it take for y'all to deal with somebody disabled? It
Speaker 3: could be wheelchair We've talked about wheelchair befolk, it could
Speaker 3: be somebody who can't talk. Would y'all?
Speaker 2: Would y'all.
Speaker 1: You would much? You wouldn't need money. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I wouldn't need money. If we're talking about the realm,
Speaker 1: fucking for money.
Speaker 3: I would do it. So he missing he missing a leg?
Speaker 3: My mama didn't remember that episode.
Speaker 2: She said he was like.
Speaker 3: This, Okay, what if he's one of those like you
Speaker 3: remember when they had the helmets song, like and they
Speaker 3: wear a helmet they do that. I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 3: we didn't know the price. She could literally be in
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars a nigga like this. I'm confused by
Speaker 3: that story. She could not be getting that much money
Speaker 3: fucking a nigga to helmet. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: the NFL, y'all, not fucking a nigga with help me
Speaker 3: to be paid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much how much would you need a fucking
Speaker 1: nigga with helmet.
Speaker 3: It depends.
Speaker 1: It depends what he's giving.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: He giving you money.
Speaker 3: He's giving you money. He might not get dig That's
Speaker 3: what she's trying to say.
Speaker 1: Like what how Like?
Speaker 3: So first off, when you fuck for money, it doesn't
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what they give.
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to the thing that I learned about
Speaker 1: sex surgancy is the delicacy of these people. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm skilled enough to be with someone that's
Speaker 1: that handicaps.
Speaker 2: I might be a little rough, you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, Right, It's not so much that them to say.
Speaker 4: It's just like all the other things that you may
Speaker 4: have to do that you may not be prepared for.
Speaker 3: Like if they in a wheelchair, bitch, you gotta ride
Speaker 3: more because they can't stand up.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't even do that, like maybe you just
Speaker 1: got to some dig maybels.
Speaker 3: Are like, oh, but don't people get paid to do that? Though?
Speaker 1: Are you did?
Speaker 3: I look at it because she didn't give me the
Speaker 3: reaction I wanted. I needed someone else.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Didn't hear what she's saying. I just heard you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think not verbal you should Oh.
Speaker 3: I'm just y'all want to give you no price yet,
Speaker 3: y'all expensive vision.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give my price, but I want
Speaker 1: to take I don't want to give my price either
Speaker 1: because I don't know what shorts.
Speaker 3: Give me a range?
Speaker 1: What's the price? Bussy?
Speaker 3: Right now, it's just going down, I know, going down down.
Speaker 3: How much would I need? But because now I'm rich
Speaker 3: and I make money, I would need at least like
Speaker 3: ten bands.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I feel like at least okay, you.
Speaker 3: Was going you was going on the morn like twenty
Speaker 3: five damn just one a nigga woul the helmet all.
Speaker 1: Not because of that, I think, which was you know,
Speaker 1: give me you fucking be healed.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not business.
Speaker 3: Well, she like he's gonna fuck me and start. She
Speaker 3: said right off, you ain't gonna need a no more baby.
Speaker 3: After this said, she called him daddy. She said, her
Speaker 3: brother be working. That's what I want to see your brother.
Speaker 3: You know, I want to picture, bitch. I don't know
Speaker 3: about that. Well, I feel like they could be getting
Speaker 3: taken advantage of. Maybe that's what that's why, that's why
Speaker 3: I think the I'm worried about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're getting checks, like people go after disabled
Speaker 4: people to get their checks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the check, that's why they get.
Speaker 1: That's why she gets.
Speaker 3: Which is you don't.
Speaker 1: Don't It could be and the other people, I don't know, autistic,
Speaker 1: he's not disabled. Where did you didn't read at did
Speaker 1: you're artistic?
Speaker 3: He's not disabled?
Speaker 1: Moderately? I think that's a disability in verbal she said,
Speaker 1: non verse. That's a disability.
Speaker 3: That's ability. You're taking advantage of that, Nick, I don't
Speaker 3: know whose side I am on this. When I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna hold you, can I be again? Honest?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, we cancel it already anyway, Okay, I would
Speaker 1: think of a close family member. If my parents weren't married, right,
Speaker 1: My mom is in her seventies, this is true. My
Speaker 1: dad's in his eighties right now. Right, they weren't together
Speaker 1: and my dad met some young girl that was keeping
Speaker 1: him company and making them happy. Why would I give
Speaker 1: a fuck?
Speaker 2: But you also liked Anna Nicole Smith, and that's what
Speaker 2: she was doing.
Speaker 1: I don't want her to like it be on my
Speaker 1: father's will or anything, but like, I do understand that
Speaker 1: companionship is important for everybody. I think it's okay to
Speaker 1: spend your money with that agree.
Speaker 3: No, but even you drawing the stop sign at the will.
Speaker 3: I think that's the mother and sister's issue is that
Speaker 3: there is pain. There is an exchange of money happening
Speaker 3: here for this. This isn't where she's like, oh, but
Speaker 3: it's because he can't verbalize it it's consensual or not.
Speaker 3: I think it's the actual issue that you got. You
Speaker 3: got your brother spending money money for the stripper, and
Speaker 3: is he really wanting like that you want to do this.
Speaker 3: It's that you're getting paid off of the introduce he.
Speaker 1: Kissed her when they met.
Speaker 2: That don't mean he want to start spinning bread on it.
Speaker 3: Right If she said, and I ain't gonna hold you,
Speaker 3: miss mama, I don't know. You might just need to
Speaker 3: let them know you're not getting paid. You can keep
Speaker 3: getting paid.
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Speaker 1: We got another episode today in studio for our Patreon
Speaker 1: and we decided we gotta get Wilson Pinnion on shit
Speaker 1: because we meet Alex and Mandy. Alexman, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: had more to talk about.
Speaker 3: I feel I'm so glad I saw that she was
Speaker 3: gonna be doing this Wolf. I was like, I think
Speaker 3: that Nigga got all of three words out on Adlice's
Speaker 3: Patreon episode, and so I like that.
Speaker 1: It's just the three ways.
Speaker 5: Let me say my favorite clip. I sent it to
Speaker 5: a Wolf yesterday.
Speaker 3: You ain't saying a goddamn look of shit. He still
Speaker 3: didn't say anything.
Speaker 5: But this is the best clip of the episode, and
Speaker 5: it's really your reaction. I said, I thought it was
Speaker 5: so funny we said this.
Speaker 2: I think that will we even talk about our relationship.
Speaker 1: When I've talked about my relationship with Alex. I've always
Speaker 1: loved you.
Speaker 3: I felt like you were just over there.
Speaker 1: Let me, this ain't about you always, That's.
Speaker 5: Why you say that about that? Shit was so funny.
Speaker 1: He was just like, all right, doesn't let you guys
Speaker 1: know really what ended up happening was Mandy and I
Speaker 1: have been trying to have you know, more of a
Speaker 1: chill flow on Patreon, especially with having guests and studio,
Speaker 1: and so we had just wrapped the Alex episode. Wolf
Speaker 1: was there. We were like, fuck it, everybody on the couch,
Speaker 1: but we just wasn't done.
Speaker 3: So what it re listening and Alex agreed we did.
Speaker 3: I think, thank you to you. Actually, the people that
Speaker 3: do support us ain't this petty. I don't think the
Speaker 3: fuck niggas on YouTube was like the episode starts at
Speaker 3: forty nine minutes.
Speaker 2: Damn, we ain't even get a real episode.
Speaker 3: So even I think some of those comments, I do
Speaker 3: think that yes, it's cool to go off script. I
Speaker 3: also realized we are never going to please everybody because
Speaker 3: some people thought it was such an amazing episode and
Speaker 3: closing of a chapter where that was kind of left
Speaker 3: open for a lot of our listeners. Great episode, but
Speaker 3: then so many other people still like and listen to
Speaker 3: us to hear us talk about sex, relationships, dating. So
Speaker 3: I do think that though we sat there for those
Speaker 3: forty minutes, I do wish to get through that outline
Speaker 3: without rushing that we just made that either a two
Speaker 3: hour episode or chopped that beginning up and put the
Speaker 3: rest of it behind the Paywalt instead of.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting too about Patreons so I didn't
Speaker 1: ret you is that these are people that want more
Speaker 1: Mandy Weezy than they do the sex talk. I believe
Speaker 1: I think they wanted the deeper dive on us. They
Speaker 1: enjoy our catchups, right, So I say that to say true,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think it was Billy from twenty
Speaker 1: five and Overclub who made a comment about listening and
Speaker 1: just talking about like, wow, the growth. People that listened
Speaker 1: to the therapy episode didn't hear about sex, right, and
Speaker 1: so to hear someone rehash issues so many years later
Speaker 1: with loving care and even there was a comment that
Speaker 1: really made me think, damn, that was a nice thing
Speaker 1: to say, and it went over my head when Alex
Speaker 1: said I wasn't worried about money because I just knew
Speaker 1: you needed to get out there. I've felt like that
Speaker 1: when I've done pro bono work for podcasts. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we've all have a moment where we've helped somebody. We're like,
Speaker 1: I want their message to get out there and that
Speaker 1: was really kind. And I think I didn't think about
Speaker 1: it at the moment in time, but it felt nice
Speaker 1: to even hear him say it years later. And it
Speaker 1: felt nice to shit with both of you guys and
Speaker 1: understand like it was maturity level, like in so many
Speaker 1: ways that everyone handled it in this way or that
Speaker 1: way or not communicating well or whatever. But I was
Speaker 1: glad to see it, just like come to this closing
Speaker 1: chapter and also hearing how you felt about it behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, like I think it was really good. And
Speaker 1: also the apology you know that you deserved.
Speaker 5: I think it was. It was nice to hear.
Speaker 1: But I had fun doing that episode because it was
Speaker 1: for me something that was like giving me anxiety because
Speaker 1: like my two business partners are now sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch with me.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh my god, this feels okay.
Speaker 1: So I was glad we did it. But anyways, that
Speaker 1: Nigga Wolf was there.
Speaker 3: Wolf was at the end. Well, if you was just
Speaker 3: like a fly on the wall like the rest of
Speaker 3: the people watching.
Speaker 1: There, I didn't need to say shit. I was just
Speaker 1: like listen, like I made it.
Speaker 5: I'm here with my bosses.
Speaker 3: I respect all y'all very very much, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that that's where, especially with this being such
Speaker 3: a niche show, I like an outline going in. So
Speaker 3: for that to be a day where we didn't plan
Speaker 3: for Alex to come on the pod, we didn't plan
Speaker 3: for you and Alex to sit on Patreon. I know
Speaker 3: that that Patreon episode kind of went all over the place.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that we're able to have you on to
Speaker 3: chat with.
Speaker 1: I like the tea in that episode though, because I forgot.
Speaker 1: I was like, you were like, should we cut this?
Speaker 1: You want to take it right now? They no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know it's I was thinking about that episode
Speaker 1: a lot, just reflecting back on it.
Speaker 5: I know we'll get into some different shit, but I.
Speaker 1: Was talking to my mom about it, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I feel like my twenty twenty four goal personally is
Speaker 1: going to be to try to isolate my own experiences
Speaker 1: from that of work.
Speaker 3: And I say that because.
Speaker 1: Even when I was talking and I was getting upset,
Speaker 1: it wasn't you and Alex that was making me upset.
Speaker 1: It was I almost could feel tears in my face
Speaker 1: lines because always feeling supers