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Speaker 1: We have a Horrible Decisions podcast, and we are going

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Speaker 3: day weekend. They have Monday off. We will see you

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Speaker 3: another episode of Horror black jeez, I gotta sound like

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Speaker 3: a ghost. Sorry, y'all. I don't know what type of

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Speaker 3: episode it is about to be. What's about to be fun?

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Speaker 3: Is about to be one of your fas because that's

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Speaker 3: what we do, is create content. I'm your girl, Mandy

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Speaker 3: b aka Full Corp Pumps aka pants that is for Foo.

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Speaker 2: My name is Weezy.

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Speaker 1: We have a guest in the building today who I

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Speaker 1: feel like I won't just be digging into for my

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Speaker 1: own self like it too. So yesterday, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: was really funny, we were supposed to have a Patreon episode

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Speaker 1: and I was like, looking for your guess your Patreon.

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Speaker 1: As somebody replied Mandy about to be mad this outline

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Speaker 1: coming late.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, what I know. You don't even know.

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Speaker 3: course the background, and they're like, not weezy being late.

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Speaker 3: It's weezy late. How late? She running everybody in the comments?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, no, we said twelve thirty and

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Speaker 3: then you text me I'll be there at twelve thirty two.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I ain't gonna tell the folks

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Speaker 1: that she too. Thank you. There was an at storm

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Speaker 1: our girl Juju's in the building, and Juju is be

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Speaker 1: with the Juju. I know that's what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 1: I'll say, an author, a podcaster. Now you're on TV,

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your work. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I identify as a witch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I do bad bish witch, but I am an

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Speaker 4: initiated priests, So I don't just like say I'm a

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Speaker 4: witch like I've been through ceremonies and like study an

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Speaker 4: ancient religion called Ephi. So I'm an all Shume priest,

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Speaker 4: which is one of the deities within that tradition. So

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Speaker 4: I do that, but I also like I write about it.

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Speaker 4: My podcast is about spirituality, especially for black people. Black

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Speaker 4: witches like calling people who are interested in something else

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Speaker 4: Like I feel like I'm having these dreams. I feel

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Speaker 4: like I've had these like experiences I can't explain. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: there's a thing that this is and it comes from

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Speaker 4: a long line of other things. That's why I teach

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Speaker 3: Is that why you cut your hair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'm both on this way. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: I just want to know and I've.

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Speaker 1: Realized, oh my god, oh no.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that was very I was very care Can

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Speaker 3: I explain?

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Speaker 1: Yea, my homegirl's practicing. So it's like, damn, it's time

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Speaker 1: for me to give up my hair. On your page, I.

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Speaker 2: Saw I have a lot of ball picks on my page,

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Speaker 3: Damn, they can't. You can't give up.

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Speaker 1: No, no, they can't take like no alcohol, like they

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Speaker 1: we can't drink. Okay, don't like you to make a sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: Well you tell, because I don't really know what sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: Would you make real quick though, would you cut off

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Speaker 4: If you can also grow your hair back, it's just

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Speaker 4: be given as an offering. Then it just grows back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I made it to the d d Oushoon because that's

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Speaker 3: No, that's like Jesus for Christian for Christian. No, she no,

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Speaker 1: No, oh, within me, that's your power, that's yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: So you could be something else. You could be something

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Speaker 4: I do have Caribbean ancestry, but I'm Black American primarily.

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Speaker 4: I was raised Black American. Yeah, this is what you

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Speaker 1: I'm not from Brookway.

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Speaker 3: I'm from Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: So and by the way, y'all are probably like, this

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Speaker 1: And I saw that you said your podcast was a

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Speaker 4: So you weren't born into this, So tell us a

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Speaker 4: little bit about how you got how you got into No,

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Speaker 4: it came into my adulthood. It's so wild. I was

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Speaker 4: trigger warning, like rape. I watched all of it, and

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Speaker 4: my ancestors were like, you have to heal us. And

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Speaker 4: these things. She's like, because your ancestors are trying to

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Speaker 4: This was all in one day, but I started meeting

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Speaker 4: someone who studies ancestry, like can put your family tree together, like, oh, this.

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Speaker 3: Is your great great grade. Okay, because you said which

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, Junia at this point, and how

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Speaker 4: I'm thirty one. This happened when I was twenty. This

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Speaker 4: happened in twenty eight teams. Anyway, I dropped out of

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Speaker 3: Yes, is it? There's money in it in this? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, because you'd be like getting the spiritual girls

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Speaker 3: like what leads you to dropping out of school for what?

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Speaker 3: Of course, society would deem a great profession yep, like

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Speaker 2: Full time, right, Like what kind of ticked you to

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Speaker 3: Like what was the drawing point to be like I

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Speaker 1: It wasn't another dream.

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Speaker 4: It was just like when she said, I have to

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Speaker 4: heal my own lineage before I'm trying to heal other people.

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Speaker 3: Something me just clicked. I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what to do, but I was like, I can't

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving.

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Speaker 4: And I left the next semester and I started to

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Speaker 1: What about so what you're an author to You've read

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Speaker 1: It comes out in June.

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Speaker 1: So on this journey, somehow you start getting into ghosts

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Speaker 1: and stuff, which is a great dead mouse fun dead

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Speaker 1: Mouse song. Oh okay, So when did the ghosts start

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Speaker 4: So I would say once I was deeper into the

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to read stuff. I'm starting to do spells online.

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Speaker 4: Shit I would never do. Now, just knew what you're new.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, let me learn.

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Speaker 1: The first stuff was the board? What was like your

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Speaker 3: I never did that one.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about one of us white

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that's more wicked. I'm not wicking. That's

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Speaker 4: more who do voodoo conjured five So it's very black

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Speaker 3: Really, So what were the first few spells you started

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Speaker 3: conjuring through these readings.

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Speaker 2: That you were doing.

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Speaker 4: I would say it wasn't through a reading. It was

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Speaker 4: actually I was at something called a mesa, which is

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Speaker 4: where mediums go to get possessed. But we like invite possession.

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Speaker 4: But it's an old practice that when you invite possession,

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Speaker 4: it actually is to help the community. So people come

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Speaker 4: and so like we have this mesa at this time,

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Speaker 4: give them messages, and we come back to ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I need to know.

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Speaker 4: And the first time I saw that, I was wild

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Speaker 1: It's like this Haunted Mansion movie and the medium comes

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Speaker 3: You did a spell.

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Speaker 1: It was for someone's health spell. Yeah, I didn't. We

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Speaker 3: Which when I did it, I was tired.

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Speaker 1: It was only thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: But I think you're away. I think both of y'all are.

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Speaker 4: You were in my dream. You were in my dream.

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Speaker 4: It was this type of energy I was. It was

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Speaker 3: Saw because I don't believe none of this, Yeah I know,

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Speaker 3: and I saw it. You look at Congolese class one time,

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Speaker 1: You want to dream about many find.

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Speaker 3: You get into the medium realm. You have this experience

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What so you meet you meet the ancestors, like the

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Speaker 4: No, when I do readings, I do ancestor readings, so

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Speaker 1: I taught the ancest something I've always wanted to know.

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Speaker 1: I went to one medium.

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Speaker 3: She was great.

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Speaker 1: She was like she was the one that told me

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Speaker 2: This up recently, bring this up.

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Speaker 1: Yet. I went to a woman two years ago to

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Speaker 3: And maybe you needed an angel.

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Speaker 1: Which is crazy because then fast forward two months ago,

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Speaker 3: Ooh bits that shit freaking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have a little girl, like angel, it's

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Speaker 4: You make of these uncanny things that keep happen, Like

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Speaker 1: I just think that I'm too much of an EmPATH

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Speaker 1: well I saw this and it's going to happen. I

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Speaker 3: That was my experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever had something that you knew about

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Speaker 1: What happens when you're wrong? When you're wrong, is it

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's always a possibility to be wrong, but

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Speaker 1: I have the same things happened to me in readings.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm giving it off and they feel it

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Speaker 1: Poem.

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Speaker 1: So Forevanella shit this week it's about dreaming, and I

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Speaker 1: device with unprecedented possibilities for exploring the realm of dreams.

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Speaker 1: Building upon advancements in neuroimaging and artificial intelligence, the technology

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Speaker 1: them into a video. Oh I don't think I want that.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, like it's crazy because I love inceptions.

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Speaker 3: One of the best films ever created, Leonardo DiCaprio did

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Speaker 2: Y'all know how to be given white people they credit,

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Speaker 3: So Exception was one of my favorite films. But specifically

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Speaker 3: When I have dreams, I do google them, especially when

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Speaker 3: Constant dreams, and this is where and this is where

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Speaker 1: A lot of times, my sister.

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Speaker 3: I'll be waking up just having to text my sister

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Speaker 3: I love her because she'd been disappearancing she was a newborn.

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Speaker 1: She got kidnapped at McDonald's multiple times.

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Speaker 3: I'll be having a hella literally at the McDonald's playground

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Speaker 1: And then earthquakes. I forgot what that one is.

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Speaker 3: But I literally will have like recurring where I know

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Speaker 3: In my dreams, I'm a lit bitch. I can fly

442
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 3: and run really fast, run it from ship, I swear

443
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 3: to God. I just can't. I could, just, I swear

444
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 3: to God. I think I'd be running from ship in

445
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 3: real life. I don't know what it means.

446
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 1: But baby, I think we all flying dreams, right, can

447
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 1: you fly?

448
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 3: I'll be fine, bro.

449
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 1: The only thing that sucks is my hit like if

450
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: something happens to me bad, it's like this, But you want.

451
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 3: To know how much my body be playing with me.

452
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 3: I guess when I always wake up right before somebody

453
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,719
Speaker 3: I want to dreams about Jason, my mama, met the Man,

454
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 3: all the niggas I want to fuck, and bitch, I'll

455
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: be ready. I'll be waking up right and I wake

456
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 3: up right before I fuck these diggers, and I'm like, oh, bitch,

457
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: you playing with me.

458
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 2: You want to let me live through these napers.

459
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 3: But I can't get I can't get the dick that

460
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get in real life.

461
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: I can't get that ship in my dream.

462
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to watch a dream back because a

463
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: lot of my dreams are kind of scary, Like I

464
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 1: have scared, I'm really bad problems to sleep in the dark.

465
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, so you sleep with the light on?

466
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going to like get hypnosis.

467
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna lie you a partner, A

468
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: nigga who got to sleep with the lights on the TV.

469
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 2: We can't with somebody, y'all cleansing. Uh what does that

470
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: look like?

471
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 4: Because our dreams, Because if you're there's things that can

472
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 4: help quell these things within your I.

473
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: Like that word.

474
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: I'm using it, I've been using. Okay, how we call

475
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 3: that ship?

476
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 4: It really depends, Like it's hard to say one size

477
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 4: meets all, like everybody's different, but maybe like a spiritual bath.

478
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,239
Speaker 4: I feel like y'all probably need some water, with some

479
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 4: different water with different herbs. No, not that type. See,

480
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 4: this is y'all about nigga, which is black people are

481
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 4: doing different things. It's not the ship you show on TV.

482
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 4: It's not the rose petals and all of that. Like,

483
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 4: there is herbs, there's medicines, there is like dirts, there

484
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: are animal parts, bones, like, there's things that go in

485
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 4: water that can really assist.

486
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 3: And kind of is.

487
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Gonna say right now, if you've been doing all that

488
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: witchcraft and you can't have nothing good to do, what

489
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: to happens to you?

490
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: Bitch?

491
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean she did in clubs.

492
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 5: I don't care.

493
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 2: She's a me nasty person.

494
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

495
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't have a witch in my life that has

496
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: that kind of energy.

497
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: That bitch is a fucking weirdough And honestly, I think

498
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: anyone that wishes bad on people talking she does children

499
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: saying didn't she say that take off.

500
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 3: Just some bad she literally even repeating that she's not

501
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: as I.

502
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 2: Didn't want to ask you, then what's she on?

503
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: Well? Not only that, your first dream was with your ancestors.

504
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 3: As you've gotten into this, have your dreams changed? Do

505
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: you have a way that if I want to go

506
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 3: to bed and I'm like, listen, it's been a long,

507
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: stressful day, I would love to dream about getting gang

508
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: banged by method Man and Jason Momoa together, Like, do

509
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 3: you know how I can manifest the type of dreams

510
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: I have based on the type of days. Maybe I

511
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: want to be on a beach.

512
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the gang bang first?

513
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: Well, maybe I want to be on a beach.

514
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: Okay. Is there a way that you've seen that? Although

515
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: quale cleanse the easiest, have you seen a way to

516
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: control dreams? Even having this conversation about scientists trying to

517
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: make a video?

518
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can put lavender under your pillow. That's

519
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 4: to help your dreams. You spray, but like have lavender

520
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: under there. Putting a glass of water by your bed

521
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 4: can help bring calmness and peace to your dream.

522
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: What about a water bottle in the bed that's.

523
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: Not glass of water. But you can speak into the

524
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: water before you go to sleep and then put it

525
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 4: on the side of your bed. Have your now you

526
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 4: lost my Maddie. You can say, Okay, I want to

527
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: get game banged tonight on the beach and put it

528
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: down and then lay your head down.

529
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 3: Let's see what happened. I'm gonna try it. I would

530
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: try it just so it don't work, so I could

531
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: be like.

532
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: Watch it work, weird ship. Yes, I told you ghost,

533
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: you can see words.

534
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 3: I feel like saying this publicly. I might want to

535
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 3: cut this fart out. No no, no, no no. I don't

536
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 3: like Ed's bitch.

537
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: If you say you keep because I don't know what

538
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: you're about to reply. Oh, so did you our Saltburn yet?

539
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: There's a scene in Saltburn with blood and basically it's

540
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: like not penetration, but it's like fingers and blood and

541
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: body are my nighbors. And he was like that shit

542
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I was like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.

543
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, turn into a conversation. My best sex I

544
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: ever had with him that I remembered was Thanksgiving. It

545
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: was around the full moon and I was on my

546
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: period and it was the best that i'd ever had.

547
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 1: He claims his best time with me was Grammy weekend.

548
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: I was on my period and there was a full moon,

549
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, are we doing something? You just be

550
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: looking at the moon every time. I just noticed it

551
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: was period. There was the best time. But it's yeah,

552
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: my periods happening around full moon, which means I'm in

553
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: a every month.

554
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because our periods are kind as the same. So

555
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: does my period come up full moon too? Probably? I

556
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: don't be looking at the moons, but we're like three

557
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: days off. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, it's.

558
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: Happening on AKA when am I doing some kind of

559
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: sex magics on my homegirl phone? Stop? I don't have Stop.

560
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: She's like, you can't keep doing the shit, bro. You

561
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: can't be saying like things like this is your pussy.

562
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: You can't be saying that while you're in your period.

563
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: Why you wanted to be his pushy? You said, I'm

564
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: doing a spell.

565
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: It gets mixing. Yeah, it depends. I feel different ways

566
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 4: about it. First, you probably are doing sex magic. That's

567
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: number one, especially because of the time with the moon

568
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: of your period too. I don't have sex with my

569
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: period so much.

570
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I need to thank you.

571
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: I just I just don't want.

572
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: Because I don't really like it.

573
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: But to spiritually it doesn't really align because it kind

574
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: of brings a sense of power to your words and

575
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: what you're saying and what you're doing. And so when

576
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: you're having sex on your period and sharing that blood

577
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: with somebody and you're saying things to them, you could

578
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: be doing binding that you don't want to do. Maybe

579
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 4: you do want to do and say this is your pussy,

580
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 4: this is mine. But say if that wasn't maybe y'all

581
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: weren't cool anymore, y'all broke up and you don't want

582
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: to be his anymore and it became an issue.

583
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: It maybe creates chaos later down the line.

584
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: So that's what I've said.

585
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: In the movies.

586
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: Like love spells having negative impacts, they often do, And

587
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: so I don't want to right so in this yeah,

588
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: but if you're fucking with a full moon in your period,

589
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: it kind of is a love sait, it is. And

590
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: so maybe he becomes a stalker when this doesn't work out.

591
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that has happened to people. So that's

592
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

593
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: What are normally like the negative and that's real wood, bitch,

594
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: Uh what what are the negative impacts? Then on doing

595
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: spells that have good intention but you're still putting it

596
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: on someone else.

597
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: I would say that the first thing is love's going

598
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: to come in here because I've been moving my bad.

599
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh hey wait, so even though I have no intent

600
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: behind it, it is because we're saying I love you.

601
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 4: What the fucking well, you there's some intent. Whatever the

602
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: intent is, you're saying it, so you have an intention.

603
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: It may not be that you never leave Oh maybe

604
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: it is you never leave me. This is the only

605
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: pusson you love And that's cool we're saying, but later

606
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: down the line, it could backfire. That's the thing where

607
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: any spell, with any work, anything can backfire. So it's

608
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: just being mindful of like especially with blood magic and

609
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: blood stuff. Just got to watch what makes that?

610
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: What makes doing it with blood more sacred? Then say

611
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: you just you know, not not ovulating or not or not,

612
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: Like what makes it more sacred? Is it that it's

613
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: the blood and like normally that's like sacrificial and stuff

614
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: like that, Like you know what makes the blood more Yeah?

615
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Because then I do want to know too if for men,

616
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: if there's a time that they're more powerful yeah, if

617
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: they're you know, doing the same thing.

618
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say blood is more sacred. It just represents

619
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: so much like it's powerful, like there's power in the blood.

620
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: You know, that's Christian Like, it's just it's just power

621
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: in the blood. Like period, it represents life, it's what

622
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: we need to live, like it is sacrificial.

623
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: People sacrifice things with blood.

624
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: That's why they sacrifice them.

625
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: So engaging with blood, Like, there's certain deities I can't

626
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: speak to while I'm on my period because the belief

627
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: is that we're so strong and powerful and our intentions

628
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: are so like wrong. I can't even interact with the

629
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: deity because it could inter it could interrupt our connection

630
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 4: to each other. So some spirits I can't talk to

631
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: while I'm bleeding. So that's why I like be careful

632
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: of what I'm doing on my period because you can

633
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: really mess some stuff up.

634
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Or or bring good things. You know, I feel like

635
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: everything's going, Yeah, you doesn't have to be bad. It's

636
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: not bad to till us then. And then there's stories

637
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: about movies.

638
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: No, there's so many movies where like they finally get

639
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: the person that they love and they're like, oh my god,

640
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: I got the person.

641
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: I wrote it, I manifested, I got it.

642
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: I did the spell for this person to love me,

643
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: and then oftentimes the love turns into obsession or serial killers.

644
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not heal.

645
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: They believe in free will, though, Like I've never wanted

646
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: to do a love spell, so that's why I'm like feeling.

647
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: Okay about it. But what scary is.

648
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: Someone gave me a reading when I first started dating him,

649
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: and she said there's someone in your life that you're

650
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: growing closer to, but it's being blocked because there's someone

651
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: doing work on him.

652
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: And I didn't really think it was him at the time.

653
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: I think you did bring that up.

654
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: I did.

655
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it was anything crazy because

656
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, maybe maybe it ain't girl. When

657
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: I tell you, I said that it's him, and he

658
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: said so fast because he loves fucking little spiritual hope.

659
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: He was like that shouldn't work on me. Who He

660
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: was like, they could try all they want. I got

661
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: so many bitches.

662
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: They could try.

663
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: He's like, you love your low crystal rings when but.

664
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

665
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't believe that either. I think, maybe unknowingly, I

666
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: think if someone's really working hard to get you. Maybe

667
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: at some point maybe they could do a little something.

668
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: But that's what kind of scares me.

669
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: Do you think? And that was my question to that answer.

670
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that when people say I don't believe

671
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: in magic, so it can't affect me if someone doesn't

672
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: spell on me, then that's true.

673
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't think I can't. I can't run from

674
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: the magic.

675
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: There's some just really powerful witches out here, like I

676
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: didn't even talk about myself, just people who are boring

677
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: into this, who have done this, who are all over

678
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: the world, all across the country, who will have you

679
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: fucking falling over, breaking your neck, breaking an ankle because

680
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: they didn't work on you. That's why people say, like

681
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: to be careful of messing with witches and all of

682
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: that and going over here to the Obia lady like

683
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: there's so many stories within Caribbean with the African American

684
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: lor African lord.

685
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Like you don't gotta believe it real quick you now

686
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: on TV waitting you gotta podcast on it is.

687
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: The nigga scared of you? Because to me, if I

688
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: already don't like whole tep niggas, I don't like the

689
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: like spiritual, good morning, grand rising queen ass niggas either

690
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: you're the female version of that. No, I'm not.

691
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I can't grand you can get me rising like I

692
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like in the inside of you it's light.

693
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: But I'm like with a woman like I don't even

694
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: I'm in a relationship woman.

695
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay are women? Are women afraid like that? Maybe

696
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: you could be putting spells like when I don't just

697
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: say she says she doesn't do it.

698
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: That ship he was obsessed.

699
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: So you might need to stop having period sex, bro.

700
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean, because you're casting spells on people, and it's

701
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: not fair. They didn't sign up to have spells casting

702
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: on their asses.

703
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: It might be fine, it's fine. It's just saying, just

704
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: know what you're doing.

705
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: That's all.

706
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: Like you should be aware.

707
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Does someone stop sex? Magic?

708
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: Happiness to them? For everyone listening to this podcast.

709
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: She just said, you can't stop it.

710
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: Wait if you're having sex with them or someone's doing

711
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: sex message when you're not around.

712
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: There's a nigga right now swiping. He means a cutie.

713
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: She's a little bit of a youth. Mm hmm. Now

714
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to not date her because that'd be

715
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: fucked up. But also what things should someone watch out

716
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: for in case there's.

717
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: A bad witch.

718
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Oh, this ain't my hair, you know what I'm saying,

719
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: So I can't it around?

720
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: What little they can get it from the all right? Yeah?

721
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Not leaving hair around, not leaving drawers around.

722
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: Underwear? What do they do with the underwear? What spells

723
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: are done with underwear?

724
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: You can probably boil some underwear to get the essence

725
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: of the thing. Is like personal concerns is what we

726
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: call them. So like nails, hair fluids from our body,

727
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: all of these things can be worked in a spell.

728
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: So it's being mindful of the things that you're leaving

729
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: to have your personal concerns on them.

730
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: But if I suck is dick, my saliva on the dick? Like,

731
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: but how leave it I'm leaving? He could take a

732
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: little Q tip and get my salava? Well he could could,

733
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: he could Nobody it's gonna be the personals is gonna

734
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: be around.

735
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't gotta leave your pair brush or

736
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: leaving you clipping your nails and leaving it out like.

737
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: You wouldn't like what what stuff you do with the

738
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: boiling unawear? Yeah? What what is that?

739
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: What is that spell boiling of underwear.

740
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: Well, it would just be to get the essence of

741
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: if there's like secretion, maybe the word to into the water.

742
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 3: So then you could do anything with it.

743
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: You could drink it, you could put it in on

744
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: top of a spell, put it on top of a candle.

745
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: You could do a bunch of different things with it.

746
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anyone should be doing this, by

747
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: the way, but that's a way that one could get

748
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: the essence of that person, Like, oh, there's some stuff

749
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: on the underwear, let me boil it.

750
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: The essence is about.

751
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: To be I'm spoken with or der. Let's get into

752
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: I think she talked about sex magic, specifically with masturbation.

753
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: I would love to get any sort of tips from

754
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: you with how to manifest or use magic to have

755
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: a better sex life. If you have any sort of

756
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: tips or tricks or spells we could share with the world,

757
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: I would love to know. Yeah, how would we go

758
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: about doing that?

759
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: I would say with sex magic and masturbation. Sex magic

760
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: is my favorite time. What actually helped me would have

761
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: better sex and do this better. Sex magic was one

762
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: I was watching porn a lot at first, and I

763
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: was I feel like it was. I just feel like

764
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: now that you can't watch porn and do some magic,

765
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of interference. So I stopped completely

766
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: watching porn while I and so I was thinking about

767
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: what I really wanted, and I started to say monstiraus

768
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: to myself that were actually about healing sexual traumas and

769
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: like insecurities that I have around sex. So instead of

770
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: like trying to manifest like, oh I hope I get

771
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: this like good pessy or like this big dick, I'm

772
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: thinking like, Okay, let me heal this thing that may

773
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: have happened to me a while before that that constricts

774
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: me from like being my full self when I'm with

775
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: this person, or like I made it very specific about that,

776
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: and that has actually increased my sex life, so not

777
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: always just about like oh I'm trying to get a

778
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: bag or I'm trying to do whatever. It's like, let

779
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: me heal this thing, because I feel like that's a

780
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: blockish for me right now in order to go to

781
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: this next place.

782
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: So that's what does that look like?

783
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: Like? Are you fucking a crystal dildo?

784
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Are you not into that? Are you laying in the

785
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: middle of a cross? What does what does that manifestation

786
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: look like with magic or could it just.

787
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Be in my bed?

788
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

789
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: I mean for me, I'm a very practical witch. Like yes,

790
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: people do the crier, I'm not actually into all of that,

791
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: Like I use it what I have, which is a

792
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: very black spiritual thing to do, to use what you

793
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: already got. So I just be in a house, I

794
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: have a candle. I might light it, but it's not

795
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: like a witchy candle, which just a regular ass candle

796
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: that I have a Yankee candle, not the yankee they.

797
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: Wed.

798
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: I read this book which is Lets and Feminists.

799
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: We brought on. I really liked the book, so we

800
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: brought her on. And when she talked about sex magic,

801
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: the only thing I've remember saying was light changing the

802
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: lighting yeah, oh they don't got to be.

803
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: But also just speaking into the things that you want.

804
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: While you're yeah, while you're doing it, and especially when

805
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: you're orgasming, really like envisioning what it is that you want,

806
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: like before you're kind of thinking about it, but like

807
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: when you're about to nut, it's like I have it.

808
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: You're almost saying like thank you, it's mine over. So

809
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: I swear that's how I got one of the things

810
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: about like.

811
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: I swear it's it's about I guess basically, I don't

812
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: know how to ex blame it.

813
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you y'all both trying.

814
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Here's the layman's terms. I feel like I can remember

815
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: at the time. Basically, when we're orgasming, there's certain places

816
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: that your mind needs to be that a witch can

817
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: experience psychics, mediums that we aren't living at right, whether

818
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: it be another dimension or you just can't get that

819
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: close to the other realm. But when you're orgasming, your

820
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: brain does for a good five to ten seconds. That's

821
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: when it's when you're able to ask for what you want.

822
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: So apparently that's what it is. Did I say that

823
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: kind of right?

824
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like a visualization exercise with coming.

825
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: Could you read off like a spell, like say the

826
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: words of what I would tell myself if I wanted

827
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: something to come about great in my sexual life, like.

828
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Or maybe I have given an example.

829
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, I am seeking intimacy with a partner. So

830
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: the sexual romance relationship that I'm seeking is not just

831
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: through penetration.

832
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: It's through finding a man that kind of can.

833
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: Actually see my soul and know how to treat like

834
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: make me feel special without having a fuck me.

835
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

836
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: Yes, So what would that look like? How would I

837
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: what what's the conjuring of that? Okay, that's cute. Okay.

838
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: So you can start off with your normal I mean,

839
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 4: your regular masturbation routine, wherever you'll be at, whatever you've

840
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: been doing, whatever you got, you got your things, okay.

841
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: And so then before you like actually start to touch

842
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 4: off or whatever.

843
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: Don't you think she shouldn't use fourn though.

844
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: I would say, no, point, damn, there's a lot of interference, okay,

845
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: not that you maybe start off maybe you can get.

846
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: There okay, Yeah, so okay I'm there.

847
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: Get yourself there.

848
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: Or I would say, if you need porn to just

849
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: get a little active.

850
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: But then turn it off.

851
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

852
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: So then you're like, okay, I'm what am I manifestor

853
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: now I'm trying to manifest this man that I really

854
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: want to say, Okay, this man looks like this, he tall,

855
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 4: he whatever is you know, nice body, sexy, nice lips,

856
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: and he does this for work or he makes about

857
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: this much money. I can be that particular it should

858
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: be you want to be specific when you're asking.

859
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: For things, So go, okay, keep going into it.

860
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: Huh okay, he told he fine, he makes this much money,

861
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: he respects me, and I meet him out, but he

862
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: actually doesn't even want to fuck me.

863
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: The first time I meet him.

864
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: He wants to take me out and he wants to

865
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: learn about who I am and where I'm from, Da.

866
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: Da, And.

867
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: You're thinking about it.

868
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: Wow, so you're thinking of all the qualities you want,

869
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: and then when you come, it's almost like you see

870
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: him and he's yours already, and you're almost like thank you, Like,

871
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: oh my god, he's mine, Like that's my man, He's here.

872
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy because I think, and this may be

873
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: the case with so many people we masturbas specifically, if

874
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: you're not watching porn, you're going off of lived experiences

875
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: or past partners and so for what were fantasies and

876
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 3: so for what sex. And this is probably so fucked up.

877
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 3: Especially when I watched like trans porn or pegging porn

878
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: or the things that like I don't do often but

879
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: I want to do. I actually find myself yelling out

880
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 3: the name of Howards that allowed me to do it.

881
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: And what's crazy is the nigga. I was just in

882
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: Miami with He laughed at me, uh, because I woke

883
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 3: up one morning and I was like, what's crazy is

884
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: I came to you last night? He was like, well,

885
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: what picture did you look at? I said, I didn't.

886
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: I just yelled.

887
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: I just kept saying your name, because that's given. I

888
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 2: just kept saying.

889
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: And then clearly two weeks later, I want the nigga.

890
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: But sounds like spoke is bad, not no, but it was.

891
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: It was that. I was like to me though, And

892
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: so I did want to ask, is there harm in

893
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: masturbating that way?

894
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Thinking of the magic realm that we're going to?

895
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: Not Delulu?

896
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: I think this is all actually just be in de Lulu,

897
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: but the magical realm?

898
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: Is there harm in yelling out or speaking past partners

899
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: names during masturbation or even people that have done me wrong?

900
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: Like I feel so awful that I still can say

901
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: that my ex the sex was so good and I

902
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: actually still replay things back in my mind about it,

903
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: and I feel awful that I do that.

904
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not good for my.

905
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: Healing right now?

906
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so is there a bad Is there anything

907
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: bad or negative with doing that?

908
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's. I don't think I don't necessarily

909
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: believe it.

910
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: Always in bad and negative things just are what they

911
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: are and they have Everything has a consequence. So I

912
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: think when you're doing that, I mean, yeah, maybe that

913
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: person turns you ont so that's why you're doing it.

914
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: But it is a way that you're kind of manifesting something.

915
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: You could be putting energy towards this thing that you.

916
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: Don't that you don't want.

917
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you call this name when you're playing

918
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: with your pissy, like now you're the fucked up horrible said,

919
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: you gotta get to these ghost fucking bitch.

920
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: Okay, we gotta get it. So I've been waiting all episode.

921
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: For this, id how did you end up fucking and ghosts?

922
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: Okay, we're theist.

923
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's like a charmed But I see,

924
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: I just learned mostly about that kind of terminology.

925
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: Is it like one of the demons? Is it a demon?

926
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's.

927
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: I don't think the incubis are succubist. I think it's

928
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: when they fun but the succubists like they be killing

929
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: the bitches after at least some charm they did.

930
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: Keep going shit, it's a little different. Okay, So I

931
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: was laying in my bed. This is one of the

932
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: Chicago at the time. I was just laying in my

933
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: bed and chilling, not even feeling sexual. My nipples start

934
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: getting hard, like I just start getting wet out of nowhere,

935
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: and that doesn't necessarily happen unless I'm being stimulated. I wasn't,

936
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: so I'm like, oh shit. So then I start to

937
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 4: like grab my my own neck like I start I've

938
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: never done those. I just loot to like grab my

939
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: own neck and start choking myself, and my pussy is

940
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: getting so like I'm soaking wet, my nipples are hard,

941
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: like I take the rest of my clothes off, and

942
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: then like I kind of am touching myself but not

943
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: really and maybe five minutes later I just orgasmed and

944
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: it was just so like but it felt like there

945
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: was a pressure on top of me, like pushing me

946
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: down into the as if someone was laying on top

947
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: of me.

948
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: Was it nights like late at night like it was.

949
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: It wasn't Superlet's probably like ten and it just overcame

950
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: me and it just was like I felt this pressure

951
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, I feel like I'm having sex.

952
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: With a ghost, I really do.

953
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: And I came. I don't know if I've ever came

954
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: that much since ever ever.

955
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: It was the best. You moaned, Yes, I was creaming, coming, screaming,

956
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: all of that.

957
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: Did this last?

958
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: It was about five minutes. That's longer than like human

959
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: niggas say it can't be. And it was the best.

960
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: You capture it as a man a woman, when I

961
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: think it was a man, and by.

962
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Man would be An incubist an incombus is a demon

963
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: in malk form in folklore that seeks to have sexual

964
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: intercourse with sleeping women, though the corresponding spirit in female

965
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: form is called a succubist, so suckubists an incubusiness man.

966
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: But you weren't sleeping. I was awake. This is you,

967
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 3: so maybe this is the kiss. Like, so you were awake.

968
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: I was awake, so didn't scare you. It scared me

969
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: a little bit, but I was. I'm awake.

970
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm a like I know the spirit. So I'm just

971
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: kind of like, I think I have a spirit husband.

972
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: And that's something that I've always felt people be having

973
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: spirit husbands, especially women, and a lot of times it's

974
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: what's messing up their relationships and they don't want to

975
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: talk about it.

976
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: This is tea like a spirit husband, So real quick?

977
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: Did you have to imagine what you think he looked

978
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: like like?

979
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: Because what if he was ugly?

980
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: I didn't really see it was like I knew someone

981
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 4: was on me, but I didn't couldn't really see what

982
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: he looked.

983
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: Wait, how did you go there? Go back? What the

984
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: fuck is the spirit husband? And do these niggas have spirit?

985
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: Why?

986
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them do? Some of them do? Wont No?

987
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: No, okay, keep going so and a lot of your husband, yes,

988
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: and a lot of different traditions beyond Africa, all of

989
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: the world. They have a concept of a spirit that

990
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: has not left you, or someone that you may have

991
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 4: been married to or with in a past life. Sometimes

992
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: when people move on or die, we go into another

993
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: realm our.

994
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: Old lovers stay with us.

995
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: And a lot of times old lovers will interfere in

996
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: our current relationships, and they'll reak havoc, and they'll bring

997
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: ancient niggas. They'll do all these things because they don't

998
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: want you to be.

999
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: The world has a spirit husband. What you mean the world?

1000
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Because they're fucked up.

1001
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: In this world?

1002
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Wow, we're so cut off from like our

1003
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: spirituality and indigenous traditions. We all actually could have these

1004
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: past things that are messing us up and don't know.

1005
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: So when this happened to you, did you tell somebody?

1006
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: Did you try to up the like ghost cameras for

1007
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: the next time it happened, Like I need to know, like,

1008
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: did it happen again, because you did say that that

1009
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: was the best orgasm of your life? But did he

1010
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: come back? Didn't need to be a spirit husband is

1011
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: given one night fan.

1012
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: Like wow, My relationships at the time were terrible, Like

1013
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: with it was very especially with men. My relationships with

1014
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: women are okay, and I still actually think I have

1015
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: a spirit husband a lot, which my relationship with women

1016
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: are always great and fine. I really feel like he's

1017
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: like you cannot be with on niggause. I still feel

1018
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: like that, but he doesn't come and have sex. But

1019
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: maybe he's just jealous of other men. Yeah, I think

1020
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: that's what it is. They are jealous and so they

1021
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: recavoc in your relationships. Until I went to an elder

1022
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 4: in a EFI tradition, I was like, I had this experience,

1023
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: I think I have a spirit husband, and he did

1024
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: a reading, and he was like, you do, and you

1025
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: have to go through this certain ceremony in order to

1026
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: rid yourself of it and it'll stop happening.

1027
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: Did you do that?

1028
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: I did, and it stopped happening. But why would you

1029
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: want to stop the best orgasm of your life? Because

1030
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I didn't need no niggas down a product him.

1031
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but my relationships were a mess, like I was

1032
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: like I need at the time. I was like, I

1033
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: want to be with somebody like you want to be

1034
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: able a human. I want to be with a human.

1035
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: You can't be messing up my life.

1036
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: Like did you.

1037
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: Feel anything in your pussy or was this all like

1038
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: just contact?

1039
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: Orgasm?

1040
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Did feel like? It did feel like there was a

1041
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: sense it was big.

1042
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: It's that full or you didn't feel like litoria felt full,

1043
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: like something was inside it.

1044
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: I felt like something was inside of me, someone was

1045
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: on top of me, and that I was being stimulated

1046
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: in my.

1047
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: Clip got a big dick, Oh he could fuck.

1048
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: I want to ghost dick Because then I was thinking too,

1049
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: like if ghosts, like I know they were once people,

1050
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: but like aliens, I wonder if they could like shape

1051
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: shift and just have a bigger dick because they did,

1052
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: like if there's magical, like maybe maybe there's powers in

1053
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: being dead, Like they can clearly fly, they can float

1054
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: and ship. Have you ever had any kind of spiritual

1055
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: like this type of shit? You ever seen it? Goest? Nothing?

1056
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: So tell you about something I got one.

1057
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: I used to be real scared actually, so I don't know.

1058
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: Maybe this was my imagination as a child. So when

1059
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: we used to drive from Orlando to Inverness to see

1060
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: my grandmama, there used to be just these hills and

1061
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: they were only hills because it's Florida, it's flat land,

1062
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: but there was hills, and bitch, I used to think

1063
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: I saw little kids like skipping on the hills all

1064
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: the time. And I used to be so fucking yeah,

1065
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: I suld of got like the little old in the

1066
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: prairie ass kids like white kids.

1067
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: Why the fuck am I seeing all these white kids?

1068
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: But they had the little prairie outfits and they would

1069
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: be skipping through the goddamn shit, And I'd be like, bitch,

1070
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: why am I seeing kids on the highway going to

1071
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: see my grandmama. That's the only time. And I think

1072
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: I may have told my mom at one time, like

1073
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: that's the only time I used to be like, this

1074
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: is so strange that this is what I'm seeing. I

1075
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: believe you really saw that, bitch, I didn't. I was imagining, shit, man,

1076
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: why don't like a paying or something. I was so

1077
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: scared that I saw these kids and they were like

1078
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: playing on the fucking hills. But this was only when

1079
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: I was little, only on my way to go see

1080
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: my not the.

1081
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Hills have eyes.

1082
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives that.

1083
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: So I had too one. I was dating this dude,

1084
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: this white dude back in the day.

1085
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: His name is Dennis.

1086
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. I got the dog

1087
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: with him. He was a chef that lived with Cooley. Okay,

1088
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: so anyway, we go to Jacksonville to see or no

1089
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Saint Augustine, which has a lot of paran Yeah, so

1090
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: we go to this ghost story. It was fun, went

1091
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: on the little school bus. It was a thing. He

1092
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: was white, he was Moldovan and there was other white

1093
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: people on the store. Right we off the bus. It's

1094
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of quiet, but I was like, why do I

1095
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: keep hearing drums? Because I'm not kidding.

1096
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: I asked two times do you hear that?

1097
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: And he was like no, I heard like standard like

1098
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: African drums and shit, it's you know. When we got inside,

1099
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: we found out this ship was built on a slave plantation.

1100
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: The whole we visited a jail. Excuse me, the ghost

1101
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: site we visited was a jail and it was built

1102
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: on a fucking plantation.

1103
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: I heard the drums from.

1104
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: When we was driving. I believe we was there.

1105
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: I was, oh wow, that freaked me out. I couldn't sleep.

1106
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: He didn't hear it. There was nobody else that was black,

1107
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, didch imagine someone who.

1108
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Wouldn't half No, I'm not gonna hold you.

1109
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: I wish someone black was on that one.

1110
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Now I do too, because, like, literally, I believe it.

1111
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: It's not even like I They just started talking about

1112
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: what was there before the jail, and they said that

1113
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot of slave revolt.

1114
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the second time?

1115
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: Second time?

1116
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: Some people say it was fake because we had space brownie. However,

1117
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: I later found out that mushrooms and certain drugs just

1118
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: opened the portal for your brain to then see ghost

1119
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: I was with my ex at the time the first one,

1120
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen him. We go to Amsterdam, We

1121
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: take brownies. Maybe ten hours go by. We both wake

1122
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: up out of our sleep. I've heard Charlotte say this,

1123
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: the dancing people on your body. Do you know what

1124
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? When ghosts like they hold you down

1125
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: when they're sleeping on top of you. It's like a

1126
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: It's like an old saying basically, ghosts hold you down

1127
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: in your sleep. Oh, sleep arouses, sleep paralysis. But they

1128
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: say that there's sometimes it feels like people are dance.

1129
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: Wake up.

1130
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: I see a man in the room. I squeezed him

1131
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: to wake up. He sees the exact same man.

1132
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: We don't know what to do. He's like, let's just

1133
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: go back to sleep. Let's try to go back to sleep.

1134
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: This was a white man too. This was this was

1135
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: a black man that just saw a ghost and said,

1136
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: let's just go back to sleep.

1137
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: It was whoa.

1138
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: He was literally sleeping there.

1139
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: Made it mark for that he was looking at because

1140
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: Mandy knows him sitting there. I haven't talked to him

1141
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: in years, but I wonder if he has thought about

1142
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: this a few times.

1143
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: The way we were looking with like maybe he'll leave

1144
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning.

1145
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: This is Amsterdam, and the woman asked me how I slept.

1146
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: I'll go get the birthet breakfast. I remember telling him this.

1147
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: I was crying. I was like it was kind of weird,

1148
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I was high, but we saw

1149
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: someone in our room. She goes, oh my god. There

1150
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: was like, uh, what does she say happen? There was

1151
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: an old building that burned down and people see ghosts

1152
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: all the time here in the arts district. Said it's

1153
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: super normal. It's harmless.

1154
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: Our ghosts really harmless. I mean it can be so

1155
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: clearly they could touch Yeah.

1156
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Can they hurt?

1157
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: You should be scared? How do we release one? What

1158
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: should we say?

1159
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: They can be harmful, but a lot of times they're

1160
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: just harm A lot of times they're just like us

1161
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 4: walking around us where they used to live.

1162
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: They could be eight ship but they could be good people. Correct,

1163
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: it's just like people. Oh well, how could.

1164
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: It ghost be harmful if they can't do anything to

1165
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: you technically?

1166
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: Well, I think that they can do things. They can

1167
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: mess up things around you. They can confuse you, they

1168
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: can hide your things. They can touch you, like if

1169
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: they can make her come right, which is great, but

1170
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: that could be it could have been the opposite of that.

1171
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: You know, like they can do the ghost and you know,

1172
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: I've actually talked about this before, because.

1173
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: In a way, I kind of didn't and I'd be having.

1174
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: A bitch you just said your nipples go like, yeah,

1175
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where I didn't give consent.

1176
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: So that's another that's the other half.

1177
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: Of it that like I'd be thinking about too, like

1178
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: I didn't quite give consent.

1179
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Tell me about the episode you had on your podcast

1180
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: called My Ancestors Hoes.

1181
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: How did you know?

1182
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: First off, because we've been.

1183
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: And that's simply it. Oh, that's good.

1184
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the hose from answer.

1185
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1186
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: So I was basically I wanted an episode because I

1187
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: think because sexuality is so demonized and especially in like

1188
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: spiritual and religious spaces, there's a lot of shame around

1189
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: sex and all of that, and and even in the spiritual,

1190
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: spiritual girly spaces, and I'm like, I practiced something where

1191
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 4: there's not shame in sexuality in my practice and my religion,

1192
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: Like sex'st not taboo, it's not any of that. It's

1193
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: natural as a part of life. And so I wanted

1194
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: to have an episode where I was like, y'all, I

1195
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: know personally, I have stories of the people that I

1196
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: descended from who would be considered pose in this day

1197
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: and age. I got great auntie. I had aunties who

1198
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: ran a shot house, which is like a place in

1199
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 4: Baltimore where you would sell illegal alcohol, and they did

1200
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: bar It was like a club in the house in

1201
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: the basement.

1202
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: How did that make the mahos though?

1203
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: No, it was it was going It was everything going

1204
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: on in now.

1205
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm like, no, we all of us

1206
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 4: probably have someone in our ancestry who was doing something

1207
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: and that would not be considered like pure. So well, right,

1208
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: but I'm saying, like our wholeness is not it's not

1209
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: to we were just hosts in twenty twenty four, like

1210
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: we've been hold Like you said, it is whole reditary.

1211
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: Hoeen is old, but we talk about prostitution being the

1212
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: old the first job. Yeah, it never gets deleted, right,

1213
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: And we descend from these people who were also hoeing.

1214
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: So that was my point in saying that, like we

1215
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: we descend from host So do.

1216
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: You think that that sexuality can be passed down? Like

1217
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: my aunt passed but my mom sometimes which is also

1218
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: really weird because she's dead, but like sometimes I'll talk

1219
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: about how horny I am. She'd be like your aunt

1220
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: is just like that and like she always talks about

1221
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: how my grandma would be horny. She'd be like, or

1222
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: me and my aunt this person in the family, and

1223
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck. Then my cousin right was

1224
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: at the Avina words.

1225
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing two years in a row?

1226
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: Oh wow? I was like being like, he just I

1227
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: be here. I'll say, oh, your cousin a little free

1228
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 3: because maybe it's the second year in a row. It's

1229
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: a guy.

1230
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: He's a guy, but like, literally my nigga meets him,

1231
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: my cousin for the first time.

1232
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 3: He was my first family member he met.

1233
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: He met my mother. After I was like, he a wow, boy, he.

1234
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: Said, this is a thing in your family. I'm embarrassed.

1235
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.

1236
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: He's like, you know that is crazy.

1237
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I met your parents at a dinner,

1238
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: but I mind you.

1239
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: Life worked out because we ended up like he was

1240
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: our manager. He was holding our prices. He got you

1241
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: with us period. This year, we literally run into him

1242
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: in the lobby. We're like, you're.

1243
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: Here again.

1244
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: As a guest. See the crazy. On the contrary, my

1245
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: father's not like that.

1246
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: My father is the one who's not back he's Israeli,

1247
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: but basically he would always talk about how like he

1248
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: was always a one woman man, like hasn't been a

1249
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: lot of women, wasn't interested in that? So can our

1250
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: family be an influence? And again, is it because I

1251
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: grew up watching my mom be open and free and

1252
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: talking about sex because I was born this way into

1253
00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: hold him?

1254
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's both.

1255
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: And I think it's the scientific like nature versus nurture,

1256
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: Like is it how we were born or is it

1257
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 4: how we are nurtured.

1258
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: I think it's both.

1259
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: I think because you see your mom be free and

1260
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: what my mom was super free too, So that's why

1261
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like this. But also I know

1262
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: that I descend from people and I've heard stories of

1263
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 4: my ancestors and even my mama encouraging me to be

1264
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: on hoho shit. And I'd be like, why would you

1265
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 4: say that as a mother. She's like, I mean I

1266
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 4: did that? Like you need to have experiences if that's

1267
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: what you want to do. Oh yeah, I think yeah,

1268
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: I have a very open mind.

1269
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: Now tell us about sorry the on Hulu? You have

1270
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 1: a TV show? What's the TV show Living for the Dead?

1271
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: And you get paranormal activity in a strip club.

1272
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we go.

1273
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: No, we go to different haunted places in the US,

1274
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: and each place has a problem and issue, Like so

1275
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: the people who are working there or living there, they're

1276
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: having a problem.

1277
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: They think it's paranormal.

1278
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: So they call me and my four O the co hosts,

1279
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: and we go and we investigate to see, like is

1280
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: it paranormal and if so, what can we do?

1281
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: What's happening? So, yeah, I gotta go.

1282
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: This was in the Palamino in Vegas, the Palomino Strip Club, Vegas.

1283
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I've never been there, never even heard of it.

1284
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: So it's one of the old it's something to what

1285
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I forgot something? What did you see in there? What

1286
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: was it feeling like?

1287
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 4: So when we went there, the girls were basically telling

1288
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 4: us that they feel like an energy is really watching

1289
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: them and sometimes they get touched while they're on stage,

1290
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: not by people, and being groped, not by.

1291
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: Living the time of their life. So yeah, so we

1292
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 3: did realize.

1293
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: We put up cameras and we did little sessions or whatever,

1294
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: so many different things we did, and we saw that

1295
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 4: there were a lot of customers who still who used

1296
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 4: to frequent there very often. This was around in the

1297
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: mob time, so there was like some mobster energy still

1298
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: going on there what And but one of the people

1299
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: who was actually touching the girls that was actually a

1300
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: former manager who had died, who was there for a

1301
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: really long time, and it was him.

1302
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: His name was Perry.

1303
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 4: And something came up on one of our little things

1304
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: that said Perry or something close to it, I don't

1305
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: remember now, and we were like, who's that and they're like, oh,

1306
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: Perry is the former owner who used to like hit

1307
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 4: the girls, like get on stage, like get on like

1308
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: like touch them.

1309
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was one of the things.

1310
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: I want you to go to a trap house. Get

1311
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: in a motherfucking trap. I would love to see what

1312
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: goes on in the trap killed their friends then a lot. Sorry,

1313
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: I know this is a very horrible, but that just

1314
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: made me think about it, I started.

1315
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was to think though, like if if

1316
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: I passed and I'm stuck in the what is this

1317
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: just the regular realm and I don't get to go

1318
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: to the top or the bottom, I don't know whatever

1319
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: y'all want to call it.

1320
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: I wonder where where my spirit will live?

1321
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: Were you places you frequent sex?

1322
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: If somebody feels something they ask.

1323
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: I would consent, like so maybe.

1324
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, make my final question before we get into home.

1325
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: I really do want to do this homemail with you.

1326
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: Tell me about offerings and altars and if you could

1327
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: ever make a sexual one, like, tell me what that is.

1328
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: Because a few weeks ago, one of our engineers had

1329
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: went to a girl's house she had about an altar. I

1330
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: heard that it was Danny, and I'm a few friends

1331
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: that have altars and it doesn't freak me out.

1332
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: I mean, one of my friends has about Tannica and.

1333
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you.

1334
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: I actually, again, hypocurd of me. I'm not gonna tell

1335
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: y'all which friend. But I have a friend that has

1336
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: an altar in her house and literally manifested the perfect

1337
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: man and she has not left his house for the

1338
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: last month. They are like inseparable and when I tell you, damn,

1339
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you where we just were, but

1340
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: we hang out a lot, and literally a month and

1341
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: a half ago, she miserable, didn't like anybody. This guy

1342
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: she met in the DMS and she's like, well, I

1343
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: have an altar and I've been She was like, Mandy,

1344
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: this is gonna be my husband. I've been praying for

1345
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: him to the tea. Everything she asks fors him, like

1346
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: to where it's kind of scary. I said, Mitch, if

1347
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: you don't come build an altar in my mother, it

1348
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: was like, what a wow, she's bi racial bitch, jes

1349
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: a thing. I'm not doing it, but yeah, like literally

1350
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: has found someone that makes her so happy.

1351
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: Now in an alter though, from what I've heard, you've

1352
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: got to like be offering things to your ancestors.

1353
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: So can you tell us a little bit about not yours?

1354
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean shrines

1355
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: can be altars can be for different things. I have

1356
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: ancestor authors. I got shrines because I have Areasha, like

1357
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of things. But you can also

1358
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: have alter to yourself. But it's basically a place where

1359
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: you are honoring something and you're giving your showing a

1360
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 4: sacredness and you're inviting that energy into your space. So

1361
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 4: some people and sometimes the readings, I'll be like, you

1362
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: actually need an alter for yourself, Like you need to

1363
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: pour into yourself. So you put the pictures of yourself

1364
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: up that you most like, and you like candles for

1365
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: yourself and you do workings to like enhance your yourself,

1366
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: which I always encourage people to do before you try

1367
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: to do work on other people. You actually can just

1368
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: juju yourself and like be lit or find a mate.

1369
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, like alters are just places that are shrines

1370
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: that you're acknowledging something inviting spirits into. So yeah, I

1371
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: have altered for ancestors and a whole bunch of things.

1372
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: And oh baby, I probably got like six how you

1373
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: got the room in New York. They're not huge, they

1374
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: can be so so it could just be on like

1375
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: a little side table.

1376
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh okay. Yeah. For anyone that might think this isn't real,

1377
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that I've taken from it

1378
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: and just learning about having a lot of witchy friends

1379
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: and just honestly a lot of Haitian friends and a

1380
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: lot of Dominican friends mainly. But it's that maybe you

1381
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: feel so much better after you do it, maybe you

1382
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: just start believing. Maybe it's in alignment with manifesting. If

1383
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: all of this isn't real, but manifesting low key works.

1384
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily the spill it fairytale thing. It's truly

1385
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: rewiring your brain. When I talk to rich people like

1386
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying millionaire rich. I'm talking billionaire

1387
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: rich or atleast hundred hundred millions. Right. They always talk

1388
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: about things like they have them already or like it

1389
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: was just destined and.

1390
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: Close the deals that they haven't yet.

1391
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, I mean most people know, duh. I

1392
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: talk about all the time working for Kenyan Barris. I

1393
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he has a billion dollars with that

1394
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: nig could be signed a hundred million dollar deals. And

1395
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: whenever I'm talking about work with him, he talks about

1396
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: his next project, maybe something he didn't even touch yet. Bro,

1397
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like it's not even existing or and I

1398
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: don't even think he's doing it on purpose. I think

1399
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: you are just genuinely that type of energy. However, if

1400
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: you're not that person, what that literally translates to is manifestation.

1401
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: You know, like visualizing and changing your mindset and being intentional.

1402
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: Like that's really all it is. So even if the

1403
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: spirits weren't real, I know that they are, but maybe

1404
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: they're not.

1405
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: Maybe not.

1406
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 4: That shit works. It makes me feel fucking better, Like

1407
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: it shifted my framework and shift in my life. I

1408
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: feel better. It makes a lot of people feel better.

1409
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: It makes us feel more confident in who we are.

1410
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: And so if it's something that's bringing this positive energy,

1411
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: like why not do it?

1412
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Has there any any anything while pulling this up, anything

1413
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: in the world you've seen that you thought was witchcraft?

1414
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: Like in most things, most things, I think, most like

1415
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: Trump when the presidency. You think if I think, I think,

1416
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was voodoo, but I think

1417
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially billionaires and millionaires, they have

1418
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: people because I know the people, they have people that

1419
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: are doing works for them.

1420
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 4: They have people doing animal sacrifice for them. They have

1421
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: people reading the stars and moves.

1422
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: You believe in the Illuminati, Oh yeah, huh, yes, it's real.

1423
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: I think it's real.

1424
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: You think it's real.

1425
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: I don't think it's real like how people say, okay,

1426
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: but I do think it is a real group.

1427
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: But it's that like the sacrificing and things like that

1428
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 3: that they normally attached to it and someone becoming famous.

1429
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Those are you believe spells I think the people do

1430
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: and hard work. I think it's all of it. I

1431
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: think it can be talent, it hard work.

1432
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: But I also think that people go through ceremonies to

1433
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: completely sell their soul in order to do something I do.

1434
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: It's okay, let's get it.

1435
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 5: This home mail.

1436
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: This one's kind of tea. Actually I really like it. Okay, Okay,

1437
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: it says sorry, it's not tea, but it's good. High hose.

1438
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I love the show saw you guys in Charlotte. Truly

1439
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: great experience. Ah hose, bitch, you can't call it. So

1440
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm bumping heads with my family right now, specifically my

1441
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: evangelist mother. My youngest brother.

1442
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: Is twenty three and autistic. We'll call him John.

1443
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: John falls within the moderate early range on the spectrum,

1444
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: meaning he comprehends everything, but he can't form sentences. He

1445
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: can't live on his own. In twenty nineteen, my older

1446
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: brother and his friend friends ran into some women they

1447
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: knew while they were out with John.

1448
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: John was drawn to one, in.

1449
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: Particular, let's call her Sharie. He did something we never

1450
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: saw him do before. He walked up to her, looked

1451
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: her in her eyes, kissed her, and said Hi, I'm John.

1452
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: We explained his autism to her. She had no problem

1453
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: expressing interest in him. Also, turns out she was a

1454
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: stripper and his quote unquote dated other disabled men. My

1455
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: older brother and I worked out an agreement with her

1456
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: to casually date him, but regularly get tested in case

1457
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: that he expresses any kind of sexual interest, intentionally excluding

1458
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: my mom and my older sister from this agreement. John

1459
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: sees Shari monthly. We all get dinner, drop them off

1460
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: to my mother's while she's at work, and no, Lie,

1461
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: the stripper says, my brother be working her ass Ooh

1462
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: that's funny. Fast forward, she ran into him at his job. Shari,

1463
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: his man told my mom that some woman came in.

1464
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: My brother grabbed her arms, he kissed her, and she

1465
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: kept calling him daddy in front of everyone. I explained

1466
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: to my mom who she was. She wanted me to

1467
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: end it immediately, since he cannot verbally consent. The problem is,

1468
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm into deep. I had Shari get two to three

1469
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: other girls to start dating his other special needs friends.

1470
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I don't get paid a disabled ring.

1471
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Every time girls see them, but I get paid for

1472
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: the initial meetup and they need a chaperone.

1473
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm.

1474
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: Helping the special needs community get pleasure and pussy like

1475
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: the rest of us. Plus it's improving their social skills

1476
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: and making them happy. My mother and my sister say

1477
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm making these man tricks and keep threatening the police.

1478
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: Should I stop or is way? Is there a way

1479
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: to make this a legit side hustle? Thanks, but my

1480
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 1: brother's favorite sister yo side hustle. I love her second, Yes,

1481
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: there is a way to make it a side hustle.

1482
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: How because this has nothing to do with sexuality. This

1483
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: has to do with dating, Like.

1484
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm not matchmaker.

1485
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: She calling the nigga daddy. They might be fucking, I mean, if.

1486
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: They're fucking, but also that's their choice on what they

1487
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: decide to do. So that's but that is the problem.

1488
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: And that the mom is saying is that because he

1489
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: can't form sentences, how is he actually able to consent

1490
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: to these things? He fucking went up and didn't kissed

1491
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: the bitch, which is she? Man, I'm gonna say this, fuck.

1492
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: The PC shit, Okay, Okay, I don't care. Yes, I'm interested.

1493
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: There are sex workers, strippers that have understood body language

1494
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: and are sure field in that ship. And you want

1495
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: to tell me that someone would be taking advantage of

1496
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: someone they're getting paid for. They could just literally sit

1497
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: there like if there's a connection with someone, you don't

1498
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: always need words. I'm sorry, Like when I go and

1499
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: there was a nursing home visit. I had once with

1500
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: someone who was a neighbor to someone who is visiting,

1501
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: and their nonverbal every time their wife comes in the room,

1502
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: the eyes change like the like you see excitement. So

1503
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe you need a verbatim and forward out. Yes,

1504
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: fuck me, I've consented so many times by my body language. Yeah,

1505
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: so I think this is healthy. I obviously think there's

1506
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: a way to cross a boundary that could be too far. However,

1507
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: you might need to become something. You need to watch

1508
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Sex Cells season three, sex Surrogacy. I think this episode

1509
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 1: five bitch sex surrogates do this. It basically help people

1510
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: that I was actually gonna lean her more into matchmaking.

1511
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sure.

1512
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like I mean, like sex surgacy will

1513
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: help you understand disabled disability and sexuality. But basically, like

1514
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: these people have been trained their therapists. It's covered with

1515
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: it's like literally real.

1516
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: On the spectrum.

1517
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: But that's what they're doing. These strippers.

1518
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: They're real fucking sex surrogates right now. But are they?

1519
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: I think I can. I think actually the problem is

1520
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: and that's probably what the mom and sister have a

1521
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: problem with this that she is monetizing off of this.

1522
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: So to me, but you've taken.

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 3: Advantage of these disabled men by charging them to get

1524
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Speaker 3: them like.

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01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: And are maybe not but maybe they don't want.

1526
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: The trick sex work aspect of it all. Like now

1527
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: you're paying for these women, which is also what I

1528
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: didn't like either. I don't like that because she's a

1529
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: sex worker, as if it couldn't have been any other

1530
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: just random normal girl that they put because she's a stripper,

1531
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: we make her get tested monthly. Like that was a

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: little weird addition to that. I think it's because she's

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: she's the same people for money, though I don't think

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: it's a stripper thing.

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01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: So is she hiring sex workers.

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: Dating? Yeah, but all strippers don't fuck for mine, I know,

1537
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: but this one is they all are. I'm taking it

1538
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: as that one. She said she's helping the other niggas

1539
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: get plussy, But you said dating that it might not mean.

1540
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it doesn't.

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: We need more details.

1542
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: Here's why I said, starting a business. Escorting is not sex.

1543
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: It's not all the time, but all the time. So

1544
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: if you want to start this business to give people companionship,

1545
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: and have experiences and touch like that's a thing.

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: I want to ask y'all because here we go, since

1547
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: we're about to get canceled anyway, how much money would

1548
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: it take for y'all to deal with somebody disabled? It

1549
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: could be wheelchair We've talked about wheelchair befolk, it could

1550
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 3: be somebody who can't talk. Would y'all?

1551
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: Would y'all.

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: You would much? You wouldn't need money. I'm not saying

1553
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't need money. If we're talking about the realm,

1554
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: fucking for money.

1555
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: I would do it. So he missing he missing a leg?

1556
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: My mama didn't remember that episode.

1557
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: She said he was like.

1558
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: This, Okay, what if he's one of those like you

1559
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: remember when they had the helmets song, like and they

1560
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 3: wear a helmet they do that. I don't know, I mean,

1561
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 3: we didn't know the price. She could literally be in

1562
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars a nigga like this. I'm confused by

1563
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: that story. She could not be getting that much money

1564
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: fucking a nigga to helmet. And I'm not talking about

1565
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: the NFL, y'all, not fucking a nigga with help me

1566
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: to be paid?

1567
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much how much would you need a fucking

1568
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: nigga with helmet.

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: It depends.

1570
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: It depends what he's giving.

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: Girl.

1572
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: He giving you money.

1573
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: He's giving you money. He might not get dig That's

1574
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: what she's trying to say.

1575
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: Like what how Like?

1576
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: So first off, when you fuck for money, it doesn't

1577
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what they give.

1578
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to the thing that I learned about

1579
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: sex surgancy is the delicacy of these people. I don't

1580
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: know if I'm skilled enough to be with someone that's

1581
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: that handicaps.

1582
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: I might be a little rough, you know what I'm.

1583
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: Saying, Right, It's not so much that them to say.

1584
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 4: It's just like all the other things that you may

1585
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: have to do that you may not be prepared for.

1586
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: Like if they in a wheelchair, bitch, you gotta ride

1587
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: more because they can't stand up.

1588
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't even do that, like maybe you just

1589
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: got to some dig maybels.

1590
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: Are like, oh, but don't people get paid to do that? Though?

1591
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: Are you did?

1592
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: I look at it because she didn't give me the

1593
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: reaction I wanted. I needed someone else.

1594
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't think I.

1595
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: Didn't hear what she's saying. I just heard you.

1596
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think not verbal you should Oh.

1597
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm just y'all want to give you no price yet,

1598
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 3: y'all expensive vision.

1599
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to give my price, but I want

1600
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: to take I don't want to give my price either

1601
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: because I don't know what shorts.

1602
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,480
Speaker 3: Give me a range?

1603
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: What's the price? Bussy?

1604
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: Right now, it's just going down, I know, going down down.

1605
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 3: How much would I need? But because now I'm rich

1606
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: and I make money, I would need at least like

1607
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: ten bands.

1608
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I feel like at least okay, you.

1609
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: Was going you was going on the morn like twenty

1610
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: five damn just one a nigga woul the helmet all.

1611
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: Not because of that, I think, which was you know,

1612
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: give me you fucking be healed.

1613
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1614
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not business.

1615
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: Well, she like he's gonna fuck me and start. She

1616
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 3: said right off, you ain't gonna need a no more baby.

1617
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: After this said, she called him daddy. She said, her

1618
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: brother be working. That's what I want to see your brother.

1619
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: You know, I want to picture, bitch. I don't know

1620
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: about that. Well, I feel like they could be getting

1621
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: taken advantage of. Maybe that's what that's why, that's why

1622
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: I think the I'm worried about that.

1623
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're getting checks, like people go after disabled

1624
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: people to get their checks.

1625
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, the check, that's why they get.

1626
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: That's why she gets.

1627
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 3: Which is you don't.

1628
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: Don't It could be and the other people, I don't know, autistic,

1629
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: he's not disabled. Where did you didn't read at did

1630
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: you're artistic?

1631
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 3: He's not disabled?

1632
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: Moderately? I think that's a disability in verbal she said,

1633
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: non verse. That's a disability.

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01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: That's ability. You're taking advantage of that, Nick, I don't

1635
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: know whose side I am on this. When I ain't

1636
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: gonna hold you, can I be again? Honest?

1637
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, we cancel it already anyway, Okay, I would

1638
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: think of a close family member. If my parents weren't married, right,

1639
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: My mom is in her seventies, this is true. My

1640
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: dad's in his eighties right now. Right, they weren't together

1641
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: and my dad met some young girl that was keeping

1642
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: him company and making them happy. Why would I give

1643
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: a fuck?

1644
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: But you also liked Anna Nicole Smith, and that's what

1645
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: she was doing.

1646
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't want her to like it be on my

1647
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: father's will or anything, but like, I do understand that

1648
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: companionship is important for everybody. I think it's okay to

1649
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,480
Speaker 1: spend your money with that agree.

1650
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: No, but even you drawing the stop sign at the will.

1651
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: I think that's the mother and sister's issue is that

1652
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: there is pain. There is an exchange of money happening

1653
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 3: here for this. This isn't where she's like, oh, but

1654
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: it's because he can't verbalize it it's consensual or not.

1655
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: I think it's the actual issue that you got. You

1656
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: got your brother spending money money for the stripper, and

1657
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 3: is he really wanting like that you want to do this.

1658
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: It's that you're getting paid off of the introduce he.

1659
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: Kissed her when they met.

1660
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: That don't mean he want to start spinning bread on it.

1661
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: Right If she said, and I ain't gonna hold you,

1662
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: miss mama, I don't know. You might just need to

1663
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 3: let them know you're not getting paid. You can keep

1664
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 3: getting paid.

1665
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Speaker 1: On the flame was t I'm really sure we might

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Speaker 1: need you to call in, bitch. I don't know where

1667
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Speaker 1: you live at, but we might need information. I got

1668
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: more questions on this one, Juju.

1669
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Speaker 3: Black WITCHI sh Black wid A Part two on Patreon

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Speaker 3: for you to see that. I do open the new

1680
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Speaker 3: portals around me. Fitch, did you get an oracle? Shit happen?

1681
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Speaker 3: This was dreams.

1682
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Speaker 2: The oracle was like dimn near a year ago now,

1683
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Speaker 2: and the palm reader was like three.

1684
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Speaker 1: You need a refresh, girl up? Do it right after this. Islanta.

1685
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Speaker 3: Anyway, thank y'all so much for tuning in to another

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Speaker 3: episode of Horrible Decisions. Make sure you go to Black

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Speaker 3: At the Black Effect second Annual Festival in Atlanta, I

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Speaker 3: said that all out.

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Speaker 1: There, you've had a lot of money, come to Atlanta

1691
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Speaker 1: and then come to London. You know, Delta got that

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Speaker 1: NonStop and we're going only from New York though, like

1693
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Speaker 1: we want more people from all over the country.

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: It does have an all stuff from London, Okay, because

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Speaker 1: I'm taking it myself. So come and see us London

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Speaker 1: by five April twenty seven for Atlanta. I need water.

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Speaker 1: I'm my god, damn what.

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Speaker 2: As we saying?

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01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: Anyway? Also, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon. We

1701
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Speaker 3: have so much new content over there. You love it.

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Speaker 3: Go to patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions. This has

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Speaker 3: been yet another episode of horrible decisions. Fine, what up

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Speaker 3: bread Brendon, y'all make sure you get your tickets now.

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Speaker 3: May fifth, we are at the Earth Theater in London's listen.

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Speaker 1: We made this a specific request to be in London

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: on the weekend so that our all of our euro

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Speaker 1: people can come and see this.

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Speaker 3: We want our horn EU Europe and Europeal pull whatever.

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Speaker 1: All the black people that live over there, just take

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Speaker 1: that another fucking Eurostar and come and see us.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be there. May fifth.

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Speaker 1: We are having a whole new show, one that you

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Speaker 1: didn't see. This is a part of the Climax tour.

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Speaker 1: So even if you were on the Climax tour and

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Speaker 1: you need a little trip, it's gonna be warmer, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: Come through and see eg that's right. Make sure you

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Speaker 3: your tickets now. Please Bonus Bitchy.

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Speaker 1: We got another episode today in studio for our Patreon

1722
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: and we decided we gotta get Wilson Pinnion on shit

1723
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: because we meet Alex and Mandy. Alexman, you know, definitely

1724
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: had more to talk about.

1725
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: I feel I'm so glad I saw that she was

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 3: gonna be doing this Wolf. I was like, I think

1727
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 3: that Nigga got all of three words out on Adlice's

1728
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Speaker 3: Patreon episode, and so I like that.

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Speaker 1: It's just the three ways.

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Speaker 5: Let me say my favorite clip. I sent it to

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Speaker 5: a Wolf yesterday.

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Speaker 3: You ain't saying a goddamn look of shit. He still

1733
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 3: didn't say anything.

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 5: But this is the best clip of the episode, and

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 5: it's really your reaction. I said, I thought it was

1736
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 5: so funny we said this.

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Speaker 2: I think that will we even talk about our relationship.

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: When I've talked about my relationship with Alex. I've always

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Speaker 1: loved you.

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Speaker 3: I felt like you were just over there.

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Speaker 1: Let me, this ain't about you always, That's.

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Speaker 5: Why you say that about that? Shit was so funny.

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Speaker 1: He was just like, all right, doesn't let you guys

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: know really what ended up happening was Mandy and I

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01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: have been trying to have you know, more of a

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Speaker 1: chill flow on Patreon, especially with having guests and studio,

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: and so we had just wrapped the Alex episode. Wolf

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01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: was there. We were like, fuck it, everybody on the couch,

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Speaker 1: but we just wasn't done.

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Speaker 3: So what it re listening and Alex agreed we did.

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Speaker 3: I think, thank you to you. Actually, the people that

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Speaker 3: do support us ain't this petty. I don't think the

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Speaker 3: fuck niggas on YouTube was like the episode starts at

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Speaker 3: forty nine minutes.

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Speaker 2: Damn, we ain't even get a real episode.

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Speaker 3: So even I think some of those comments, I do

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Speaker 3: think that yes, it's cool to go off script. I

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Speaker 3: also realized we are never going to please everybody because

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Speaker 3: some people thought it was such an amazing episode and

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Speaker 3: closing of a chapter where that was kind of left

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Speaker 3: open for a lot of our listeners. Great episode, but

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Speaker 3: then so many other people still like and listen to

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Speaker 3: us to hear us talk about sex, relationships, dating. So

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Speaker 3: I do think that though we sat there for those

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Speaker 3: forty minutes, I do wish to get through that outline

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Speaker 3: without rushing that we just made that either a two

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Speaker 3: hour episode or chopped that beginning up and put the

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Speaker 3: rest of it behind the Paywalt instead of.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting too about Patreons so I didn't

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Speaker 1: ret you is that these are people that want more

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Speaker 1: Mandy Weezy than they do the sex talk. I believe

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Speaker 1: I think they wanted the deeper dive on us. They

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Speaker 1: enjoy our catchups, right, So I say that to say true,

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Speaker 1: I think that. I think it was Billy from twenty

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Speaker 1: five and Overclub who made a comment about listening and

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Speaker 1: just talking about like, wow, the growth. People that listened

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Speaker 1: to the therapy episode didn't hear about sex, right, and

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Speaker 1: so to hear someone rehash issues so many years later

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Speaker 1: with loving care and even there was a comment that

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Speaker 1: really made me think, damn, that was a nice thing

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Speaker 1: to say, and it went over my head when Alex

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Speaker 1: said I wasn't worried about money because I just knew

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Speaker 1: you needed to get out there. I've felt like that

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Speaker 1: when I've done pro bono work for podcasts. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we've all have a moment where we've helped somebody. We're like,

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Speaker 1: I want their message to get out there and that

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Speaker 1: was really kind. And I think I didn't think about

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Speaker 1: it at the moment in time, but it felt nice

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Speaker 1: to even hear him say it years later. And it

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Speaker 1: felt nice to shit with both of you guys and

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Speaker 1: understand like it was maturity level, like in so many

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Speaker 1: ways that everyone handled it in this way or that

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Speaker 1: way or not communicating well or whatever. But I was

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Speaker 1: glad to see it, just like come to this closing

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Speaker 1: chapter and also hearing how you felt about it behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, like I think it was really good. And

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Speaker 1: also the apology you know that you deserved.

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Speaker 5: I think it was. It was nice to hear.

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Speaker 1: But I had fun doing that episode because it was

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Speaker 1: for me something that was like giving me anxiety because

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Speaker 1: like my two business partners are now sitting on the

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Speaker 1: couch with me.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, oh my god, this feels okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was glad we did it. But anyways, that

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Speaker 1: Nigga Wolf was there.

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Speaker 3: Wolf was at the end. Well, if you was just

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Speaker 3: like a fly on the wall like the rest of

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Speaker 3: the people watching.

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Speaker 1: There, I didn't need to say shit. I was just

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Speaker 1: like listen, like I made it.

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Speaker 5: I'm here with my bosses.

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Speaker 3: I respect all y'all very very much, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think that that's where, especially with this being such

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Speaker 3: a niche show, I like an outline going in. So

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Speaker 3: for that to be a day where we didn't plan

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Speaker 3: for Alex to come on the pod, we didn't plan

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Speaker 3: for you and Alex to sit on Patreon. I know

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Speaker 3: that that Patreon episode kind of went all over the place.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that we're able to have you on to

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Speaker 3: chat with.

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Speaker 1: I like the tea in that episode though, because I forgot.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you were like, should we cut this?

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Speaker 1: You want to take it right now? They no, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know it's I was thinking about that episode

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Speaker 1: a lot, just reflecting back on it.

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Speaker 5: I know we'll get into some different shit, but I.

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Speaker 1: Was talking to my mom about it, and I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I feel like my twenty twenty four goal personally is

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Speaker 1: going to be to try to isolate my own experiences

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Speaker 1: from that of work.

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Speaker 3: And I say that because.

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Speaker 1: Even when I was talking and I was getting upset,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't you and Alex that was making me upset.

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Speaker 1: It was I almost could feel tears in my face

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Speaker 1: lines because always feeling supers