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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in

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Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome in. Oh, how are you? What's going on? How's

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Speaker 2: your day? This is the Doug gottlib Show. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App. Welcome in. You know, instead of

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Speaker 2: doing the thing that most sports radio hosts do, which

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Speaker 2: and guys do one of two things. There they go

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Speaker 2: I don't know, or they spit out ship that they

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Speaker 2: they don't it's not factually accurate because they didn't call somebody. Instead, here,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna call Andrew Marshan. He's gonna join us. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know his work with The Athletic He's a senior writer.

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Speaker 2: Hecover sports bad he also has the Andrew Marshan dot Com.

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Speaker 2: That's where can go for his podcast, and he covers

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Speaker 2: sports media. But more than anything, he kind of has

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Speaker 2: a way better sense of how and why things work. So, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: thanks for taking so much time, and I want to

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Speaker 2: get to some inside the NBA talk in a second.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with the NBA Finals. Okay, the dates

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Speaker 2: are pre set, right, Everything else in the playoffs is

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Speaker 2: determined based upon It's like a we call it and coaching.

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Speaker 2: If this, then that right. If the series goes five,

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Speaker 2: then the next series starts now, and it's like usually

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Speaker 2: because both series finished early, there's this long lead up

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Speaker 2: I know it's done because they think that gets more

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Speaker 2: It's why it's pushed back to June. Why it starts

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, number one, they want the windows to

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Speaker 3: be right, So start on that Thursday night. You know,

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Speaker 3: traditionally that's the most watched day of the week, and

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Speaker 3: then the Sunday night is also a very well watched day.

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Speaker 3: So that's the major reason. And then just I do

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Speaker 3: they do it differently. They pushed up there the Stanley

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Speaker 3: either way, but I personally kind of prefer the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: You prefer the Stanley Cup style. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: most people do. Okay, So I guess I heard Adam

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Speaker 2: we got to look at different start times because people's

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Speaker 3: we are kids. If you want to watch Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you. I think the whole thing

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Speaker 3: So ABC and ESPN kept the finals every year, so

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Speaker 2: Inside the NBA, we were just talking about it off air.

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Speaker 3: That's not ESPN telling him what to do. They have

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Speaker 3: don't foresee that happening. First Off, the show's gonna be

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's interesting, but to think that

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Speaker 2: But here you will have to see awesome stuff as always. Man,

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Speaker 2: I can't thank enough Andrew this is so I mean,

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Speaker 2: I find it to be interesting and I'm I'm in

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Speaker 2: the know it if you will, and you know so

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Speaker 2: much more. Thank you so much for joining us on

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Speaker 3: Thanks, always enjoyable, appreciate it, Doug.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. This is uh Dan

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Speaker 5: There's this interesting line of we beat the Celtics, that's

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Speaker 2: Remember, the Hawks have been here, other teams have been here,

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Speaker 6: He's really good at scoring, really good at scoring, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's off What happens is when we evaluate players,

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Speaker 2: But yes, Rabel has been in the league as long

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Speaker 3: Say.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.

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Speaker 1: It's your annoying.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Doug, do you know what is the term in

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 8: So if if I walk into the studio one day

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Speaker 8: walk out, that seems to be melodramatic. It's like, are

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Would you like to have one? Or are you making

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 8: So Luka doncic Uh agreed to do Lebron James's podcast,

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Speaker 7: Give me an example of a couple of things you've seen,

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Speaker 6: Like, what's he doing over there, Like, is there anything

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Speaker 3: That was really the main like I was, I came

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Speaker 8: What Luca didn't do was tell us if that's something

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you ever saw the Redeemed Team documentary,

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Speaker 2: Well? I don't know. I mean, look, he's obviously, based

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Speaker 8: So Max Munsey a week ago today, Dan Bayern Blonios

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Speaker 8: Club now inside the NBA. I don't know if you

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Speaker 8: saw any of this. I didn't. I don't know if

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Speaker 8: you were aware of it. But they went off the

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Speaker 8: air as a TNT entity. They had their last show

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Speaker 8: on Saturday. I don't know if you saw anything online

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Speaker 8: or on Twitter about it. So Bill Simmons had this

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Speaker 9: I think they're going to fuck the show up. I

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Speaker 9: don't think they they unless they completely change how they

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Speaker 9: do commercials. The show is going to be different and

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Speaker 9: people are going to be pissed and Barklay and those

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Speaker 9: going to go badly.

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Speaker 8: And does anybody know how ESPN function is better than

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Speaker 8: Bill Simmons and I think he's right. And that's what's

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Speaker 8: an is that I think we did see the final

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Speaker 8: inside the NBA show because what Disney and ESPN inevitably

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Speaker 8: saying the same thing. They're kind of it's kind of

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Speaker 8: watered down. And I don't know why that is. I

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Speaker 8: guess it's because they have, like I don't know, Disney

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Speaker 8: in their in their branding, and they have to be

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Speaker 8: a little bit more tame. You would know better than

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Speaker 8: I would.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know the the I don't know how

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Speaker 2: the licensing agreement works. Okay, I will say this. I'll

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Speaker 2: defend Disney in the NBA Finals halftime show because for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, they have to have these multiple breaks, So

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Speaker 2: they have like a ninety second and then a break,

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Speaker 2: and then a halftime segment, then a break, then a

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Speaker 2: halftime segment, then a break, and then some short, little

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Speaker 2: quick one and then they go back. And you're like,

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Speaker 2: why would anybody do that? And the answer is, well,

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Speaker 2: because they have to because of network tea. And what

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Speaker 2: Bill's talking about is on ESPN they have a set

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Speaker 2: break schedule, whereas on Turner they just go until they

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Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, now it's whatever. Conversation is dying down again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the agreement works. We're all operating

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Speaker 2: on this assumption that they're going to try and ESPN

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Speaker 2: ify this show. It would be stupid. It would be

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Speaker 2: stupid to do McAfee's show. I don't think anybody paid

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Speaker 2: attention to it before they got it. I think they,

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Speaker 2: you know, they his and hers sports Center, which you

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Speaker 2: know it butted up against any chance of getting ratings

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Speaker 2: because of how it was formatted. But again, they tried

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Speaker 2: to sports centerize if you just leave it as is,

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Speaker 2: it'll be fine. If you try and mess with it,

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Speaker 2: you'll screw it up. That part I agree with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So that's annoying to me that I think we

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Speaker 8: have seen kind of the last show as it as

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Speaker 8: it was, and then Luca's comments and Max Max Mounsey

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Speaker 8: waiting until I told him I hate him to start hitting.

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Speaker 2: Uh See Luca is annoying, Max Months is annoying or

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Speaker 2: ESPN's annoying? Is that my choices?

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Speaker 8: It's annoying that inside the NBA probably has ended as

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Speaker 8: as we are used to it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is that. That is annoying.

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Speaker 1: Why Are we doing this because we can.

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Speaker 8: It's almost like Shaq was listening to your annoying because

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Speaker 8: Shaq has this response and he said it on Live TV.

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Speaker 4: And to the new network we're coming to We're not

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Speaker 4: coming to f around since the last show, and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say it, We're not coming to fuck around, you

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Speaker 4: kicking ass who taken names? Are you taking over? Okay?

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Speaker 4: I love you guys, I appreciate you guys, but hey,

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Speaker 4: all right, let me see that number one side for

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Speaker 4: the number one show over on TV and we come

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Speaker 4: over and taken over that next met word too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he only Shack can get over that, and only

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Speaker 2: you get away that. On your last show, they got

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Speaker 2: away a lot of stuff. I think the challenge also

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Speaker 2: is going to be are they just going to do

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Speaker 2: their show? Are they going to try and get away

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Speaker 2: with stuff? And I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit of both. Why could we play for you

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Speaker 2: because we can? That's it for the n Bones podcast.

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