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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. There's so much going

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Speaker 1: my Mother Knows Death, So we do cover additional stories

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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit more in the episode.

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Speaker 1: But today we're going to go over some controversial medical

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Speaker 1: therapies that celebrities are getting deadly, sports and activities for kids.

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Speaker 1: Another death on a cruise that was ruled a homicide,

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Speaker 1: think of a homicide, with someone stabbing someone or shooting someone,

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of a really unusual story. There was

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Speaker 1: breaking news this week which is an old story but

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Speaker 1: still worth talking about that women's farts smell worse than

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Speaker 1: men's farts. And believe it or not, we have another

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Speaker 1: case of a woman who was found alive in a morgue.

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Speaker 1: This is like, what the third this year? Maybe even

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Speaker 1: more probably, Well, yeah, it's just not So we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into some of your comments and questions after

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Speaker 2: So we're always hearing about these.

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Speaker 1: And actresses and famous people that are doing these things

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Speaker 1: that regular average what do we call us poor folk

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Speaker 2: So let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with Kylie Jenner's treatment.

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Speaker 2: All right, So she's revealing that she got stem cell

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Speaker 2: therapy to treat chronic back pain she's experienced since her

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Speaker 2: last pregnancy three years ago. So I feel like we're

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Speaker 2: often hearing about this stem cell therapy, but I have

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Speaker 2: really no idea what it is. Could you give any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, First, I want to say, because I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: when you're a woman that has really big boobs and

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Speaker 1: you want to get a breast reduction. The usually the

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Speaker 1: biggest reason that women want to get that surgery done

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Speaker 1: is because of what back pain, because they're back hurts, right,

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Speaker 1: It's because you're putting all this extra weight on your

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Speaker 1: body and on your skins, Elton, and it causes chronic

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Speaker 1: back pain. Is it possible that these huge asses that

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Speaker 1: these girls give themselves is putting extra weight on their

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Speaker 2: Well, they have huge asses and huge boobs, so I

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Speaker 2: can't even imagine. I mean what, I'm about four months

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Speaker 1: So I just wait, wait till after you have the

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Speaker 2: I know it's gonna get so much worse, but it

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Speaker 2: like I necessarily I mean, we're getting very tmi. It's

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Speaker 2: They're decent sized, but now that they're getting huge, my

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Speaker 1: After I had Lilian, I went in the shower to

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Speaker 2: They were so big. It was so weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, I think it's just weird

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Speaker 2: So what they do.

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Speaker 1: Stem cells are called misankmal cells, and they're they're cells

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, I think the thing is is that

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Speaker 2: Listen, I don't think they're paying for it because in

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Speaker 2: I went back to the the post Kim made four

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Speaker 2: girls are smart business women. They're not sharing this information

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Speaker 2: So it's the same with the pernuvo and everything. You know,

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Speaker 1: These The people that are getting it for free are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, but they're very influential and people are going

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Speaker 2: sharing this experience she had with this doctor, Like, I

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Speaker 1: Like? So there's a picture of her and she, of

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Speaker 2: Well, you know this is an interesting that you interesting

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Speaker 2: and I do think that is weird.

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Speaker 1: It is actually that they're They're like, yeah, my face

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Speaker 1: said everything on her face has been touched except her nose,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, girl, your nose looks like Michael

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look natural to me, but whatever. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Bryce Harper. He's one of our star

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say so happy. Schwarby just resigned.

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Speaker 1: Because he's my favorite player and I'm now I'm going

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Speaker 1: But Bryce Harper posted on Instagram that he recently underwent

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Speaker 1: corporal blood oxygenation and ozonation therapy, but which is just

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Speaker 2: I'm just so over these people sharing these weird.

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Speaker 1: Surprised Like the other the stem cell thing, I'm into,

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Speaker 2: Is the attention whore of the century. I mean, think

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Speaker 2: about his stupid headband that says show.

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Speaker 1: you can't no.

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful that that's happened private.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't bash him on in public like this.

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Speaker 2: Listen. Two things could be true. You could be thankful

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Speaker 2: they're on your team, but you could also hate their

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how many people died every day from

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Speaker 1: motorcycle accidents.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's just.

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Speaker 1: Not even reported. You might hear one or two on

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Speaker 1: the news once in a while, but there's just so

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Speaker 1: much more.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I would argue to say that somebody,

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Speaker 2: everybody that listens to the show knows somebody or knows

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Speaker 2: a friend and a friend or a couple degrees of

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Speaker 2: separation of somebody that died or was seriously injured in

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Speaker 2: a motorcycle accident.

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Speaker 1: And that was something I feel like. Mo Mom even

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Speaker 1: said that because she used to ride on the motorcycle

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Speaker 1: with Pop Pop. But then when she when they started

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Speaker 1: having kids, my mom made a decision like I'm not

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Speaker 1: going on it with him because if something happens, then

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Speaker 1: our kids aren't going to have parents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for you know, so all right. So, in other

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Speaker 2: child safety news, a six year old has died after

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Speaker 2: getting into a go kart accident at a trampoline park

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Speaker 2: in Florida.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of a similar thing. I actually

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Speaker 1: went to this exact place before what's it called Urban

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Speaker 1: Air or something during COVID, because in New Jersey everything

459
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Speaker 1: was shut down in twenty twenty in the summer. There

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Speaker 1: was nothing open and we couldn't do anything. So we

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Speaker 1: went to Florida to see my father in law, and

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Speaker 1: like everything was open and everyone was in there without masks,

463
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Speaker 1: and life was totally functioning, so it was awesome. We

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Speaker 1: went there and it was cool. The kids had a

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Speaker 1: good time and stuff. And we've done these go kart

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Speaker 1: things before. We just did go karts on our last trip, uh,

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Speaker 1: one of our last trips when we were in the

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Speaker 1: Pocono's I think, and we did them in Tennessee. We

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Speaker 1: don't we do them all the time, So I mean

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Speaker 1: it sucks. But it's the same exact thing, like the

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Speaker 1: one that's near your house that you brought the kids to.

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Speaker 1: They put helmets on the kids, right, I feel like

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Speaker 1: there was helmets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I could look back at pictures I

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Speaker 2: took that they remember when I took them it was

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Speaker 2: the worst day of their life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is and this is what sucks because

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the last story in this story

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Speaker 1: and things like that, it's just like you go, you

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Speaker 1: go back and forth because we talk about such freak

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Speaker 1: things all the time and there's just no way that

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Speaker 1: you can't ever let your kids do stuff. And there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of times there's emergency room doctors who who

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Speaker 1: do these videos on social media that say, like here

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Speaker 1: are ten things I would never let my kids do,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is always going to a trampoline park.

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Speaker 1: But I just think in general at that place they

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Speaker 1: have the go kart and the trampolines and everything they

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Speaker 1: have there can potentially hurt a kid.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering if so. They didn't really release exactly

491
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Speaker 2: what happened yet, So I'm wondering if they're going to

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Speaker 2: see there was negligent or some type of accident where

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Speaker 2: something wasn't functioning correctly. I mean, it seems pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: She was airlifted to the hospital and obviously died from

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Speaker 2: the injuries. So what Like I'm thinking, you know, those

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Speaker 2: things do go fast, but there's bumpers and safety measures

497
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Speaker 2: in place so that they can't crash into each other

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Speaker 2: and everything, So like what happened exactly, they.

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Speaker 1: Can though, Like I feel like the last one we

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Speaker 1: went on, especially some of them go faster. It's when

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Speaker 1: you go on it's just like, don't don't use these

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Speaker 1: as bumper cars. They specifically say that all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but to know, Gabe, I'm telling you, one time we

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Speaker 1: went to I had I was by myself in a

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Speaker 1: go cart in Gatlinberg.

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Speaker 2: And uh, what's fantasy, right?

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Speaker 1: And I was driving the thing, and Gabe was thought

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Speaker 1: he was being so cute, and he slammed into the

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Speaker 1: back of my of my go kart so hard that

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Speaker 1: my glasses flew off of my face, like into the

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Speaker 1: the track, and I was just and then I couldn't

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Speaker 1: see because I was driving, and I was just like,

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Speaker 1: you're you're such a douche whatever. But regardless, like he

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Speaker 1: and He's sitting there with him and Lulu are sitting

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Speaker 1: there crying, laughing at me. They thought it was great,

516
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: but like that was that was like a pretty significant

517
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Speaker 1: like force in order for that to fly off my

518
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Speaker 1: face like that, And like I'm a grown up and

519
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Speaker 1: I'm like I basically fit inside the entire thing. But

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Speaker 1: like if some jerk like my husband wants to go

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Speaker 1: up behind somebody and like slam into them, that's a

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Speaker 1: stranger or like a teenager or something, they like a

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Speaker 1: six year old so little they could just they could

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Speaker 1: just hit their chest against the little steering wheel or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, well, I shouldn't really be alone at

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Speaker 1: that age, honestly, no.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking, is there a possibility she climbed

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Speaker 2: out of it or something and then got hit by her.

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Speaker 1: One listen, got so many possibilities. There's a possibility she

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Speaker 1: had long hair that was hanging out that got caught

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Speaker 1: on something. I mean, there's just there's a million possibilities.

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Speaker 1: So we'll give an update if we hear anything. It's

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Speaker 1: it's just so sad, especially right before Christmas, for a

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Speaker 1: kid to die, it's terrible.

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Speaker 1: All right, So incidents on cruise are starting to become

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Speaker 1: a weekly story on mother No's death, you know, I've.

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Speaker 2: Never thought about cruise as much before we had to

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Speaker 2: go on the cruise last year or what was it

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Speaker 2: this year? Oh my god, it seems forever ago. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I didn't I know, I saw the story in the

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Speaker 2: news when it happened, but I didn't know if we

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Speaker 2: covered it. So I did google cruise in the grocery room,

565
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Speaker 2: and there was so many posts about cruises. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: how did we go from never talking about it at

567
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Speaker 2: all to it now being such a regular segment here anyway,

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Speaker 2: So this time last year, this guy had been on

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Speaker 2: a cruise, was detained after threatening to kill crew members

570
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Speaker 2: and other passengers, ended up dying well in custody, And

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Speaker 2: now it's coming out that he was served thirty three

572
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Speaker 2: drinks on the day this all went down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have they're gonna have a serious issue

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Speaker 1: with this. So and you can go back and forth

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Speaker 1: because this so, this was a Royal Caribbean cruise. This

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Speaker 1: was the one that we were on. And this guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they knew he was drunk, but he

578
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Speaker 1: was banging on people's doors and telling people that he

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Speaker 1: was going to kill them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was so bad that the family is

581
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Speaker 2: claiming they had to inject him with a sedative to

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Speaker 2: calm him down and use multiple cans of pepper spray

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Speaker 2: to detain him.

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Speaker 1: Basically, and like, so, this this guy is a big guy.

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Speaker 1: He's obese, and he looks tall. He's just a huge guy.

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Speaker 1: And when you're in a situation like that, I'm sure

587
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: you have some I mean, you have security guards. I

588
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's actually carrying or whatever. But when

589
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Speaker 1: you have a person like this that's threatening to kill people,

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Speaker 1: you need to get that under control. So they gave

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Speaker 1: him this sedative medication called Hello paradol, and that is

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Speaker 1: given to people that are having like agitated psychosis. It's

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Speaker 1: to chill them out and to turn off whatever is

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Speaker 1: causing them to act like that, right. The problem is

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Speaker 1: is that that drug is a central nervous system depressant

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Speaker 1: and should never be given to people who just drank

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Speaker 1: thirty three drinks, which is another central nervous system depressant.

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Speaker 1: So them just giving him that medication alone caused him

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Speaker 1: to not be able to breathe properly, on top of

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Speaker 1: getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray, which is terrible,

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Speaker 1: and and like he died, right, and the family is

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Speaker 1: now suing, which like you kind of you kind of

603
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Speaker 1: look at it and you're just like, Okay, he he

604
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Speaker 1: drank that much. That's his fault that this has gone

605
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Speaker 1: like this, But like still like he should have been

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Speaker 1: maybe locked in a room and let him if he

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Speaker 1: could even survive drinking thirty three drinks, which I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: he can because he might have done it before or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but like there's a chance that he

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Speaker 1: would have survived that. And I do understand though that

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Speaker 1: the cruise ship was just freaking out because you have

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Speaker 1: children and a guy that's saying that he's going to

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Speaker 1: kill people, Like, how do you how how would they

614
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Speaker 1: possibly get that guy even into a room to lock

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Speaker 1: him into a room. He was just a big guy

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Speaker 1: and like like having a psychotic episode.

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Speaker 2: It's I actually think the family has a really good

618
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Speaker 2: case because yes, it is the responsibility of him for

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Speaker 2: drinking all those drinks, right, and you shouldn't be having

620
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Speaker 2: that many drinks. But as we've talked about with all

621
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Speaker 2: these cruise stories, you are being monitored so much on

622
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Speaker 2: these boats transaction wise, you have key cards, you have

623
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Speaker 2: all this stuff, and it seems like he got served

624
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Speaker 2: all of these drinks at one bar on the ship

625
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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, thirty three drinks is absolutely excessive. And

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Speaker 2: it seems like this all went down in a short

627
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Speaker 2: period of time because what happened was they got on

628
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Speaker 2: the boat and their room wasn't ready yet. So the

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Speaker 2: family is claiming that they guided them and said, why

630
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Speaker 2: don't you hang out in this bar area until your

631
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Speaker 2: room is ready, But he was there with his fiance

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Speaker 2: and his seven year old son who had autism. The

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Speaker 2: fiance is saying the seven year old son was getting

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Speaker 2: extremely irritable. She then went to go check in the room,

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Speaker 2: and then the whole situation unfolded because he couldn't find

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Speaker 2: the room, so in my this is only going down

637
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Speaker 2: in a matter of hours. So if he's and he

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Speaker 2: was wasted.

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Speaker 1: So of course he was going down a rabbit hole

640
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Speaker 1: because he was he had to be wasted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just saying, like, if he's sitting in

642
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Speaker 2: the same bar area, they're not realizing this man is

643
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Speaker 2: getting drink after drink after drink. Let's say he's even

644
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Speaker 2: paying cash for these drinks. You're paying with his card.

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Speaker 2: His face, I mean, he looks like he doesn't look

646
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Speaker 2: like everybody else that's on this boat, Like you're not

647
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: going to realize the same customer is coming up to

648
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Speaker 2: you so many times. If a bar i'd be for

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Speaker 2: a drug driver. Why can't the cruise ship be liable? No?

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Speaker 1: I know, and listen like he I just like, I've

651
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Speaker 1: been on that exact cruise line and I could barely

652
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Speaker 1: get a frickin bottle of water.

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Speaker 2: Out of these people. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If I was like, can I have two bottles of

655
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: water so I could bring one back to my room,

656
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give me to at one time. I don't

657
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: even understand how it happened exactly, because unless other people

658
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: were getting it for him.

659
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: When Ricky was what It's doesn't seem like that because

660
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: unless he was having other people, because it seems like

661
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: he was only on the boat with the fiance and

662
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: the kid. So maybe the fiance got him a couple

663
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: of drinks, but she wasn't with him the entire time.

664
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: And let's say she got him the drink. So you're

665
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: giving each person over fifteen drinks.

666
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't really understand it. I don't even

667
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: understand how just like I felt like one of the

668
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: things I didn't like about the cruise was I felt like,

669
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: even though it was easy like you, they weren't withholding

670
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: food from you. They also weren't trying to like if

671
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: you wanted to get a drink, you had to go

672
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: up and stand in line each individual time to get

673
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: something to drink, which I which just drove me nuts

674
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: because I was like, can I just bring like six

675
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: waters up to my room right now and like keep

676
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: them there and so I don't have to keep coming down,

677
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: you know, like they're very like stingy with it, you know,

678
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: so And but I told you on the drink someone

679
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: gave lucea went up to the bar at the pool

680
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: to get like a Shirley Temple, and the guy gave

681
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: her an alcoholic drink.

682
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: That is completely unacceptable, it was, and.

683
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: She drank it and was just like, dude, does this

684
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: taste weird? And I drank it and I was like,

685
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: holy shit, there's alcohol in that. And then Gabe just

686
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: like returned it and in his like you know, he

687
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: was just like, uh, I think you messed this up.

688
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a huge fuck up, though, like you

689
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: really should have. I know you didn't want to be

690
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: like Karen about it, but like, what if she didn't

691
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: say anything dank the whole drink, because.

692
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I just it's not like it's

693
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: just not that big of a deal. She had a

694
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: sip at alcohol, I'm not sip, But.

695
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: What if she drank the entire beverage?

696
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Well then that would have been a different situation, you know.

697
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: But most kids really don't like the taste of alcohol,

698
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: because I know I don't. So it's just, you know whatever.

699
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: Like listen, it's totally this guy's fault for having that

700
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: many drinks. But like I'm thinking, if somebody leaves a

701
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: bar and gets in a car accident, the bar can

702
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: be held be held liable for overserving that person. So look,

703
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: why can't the boat because it's not like he had

704
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: eight drinks and this happened thirty three. It doesn't even

705
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: seem real. It doesn't.

706
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: It's astronomical, it doesn't like that's what I'm thinking, unless

707
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: they're just like really weak. I mean, even thirty three

708
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: beers is a lot or whatever it was.

709
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: I just don't.

710
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: But the guy, the guy's like a big guy, like

711
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: he I mean, like I know people that could drink

712
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: a thirty pack of beer, So like, I guess it's possible,

713
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: but he was definitely he was definitely wasted. But yeah,

714
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, and I feel I feel bad because and

715
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: what like so she's on this cruise, like she's stuck

716
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: there the whole time, Like what did they do? Like

717
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the guy's dead, She's on this boat. They're not gonna

718
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: You're in the middle of the ocean, Like what do

719
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: you do? I don't even know, Like it's just it's

720
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: just like a terrible situation. Yeah, I don't know, But

721
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: like I don't I don't blame them for doing because

722
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: of them injecting him with the sedative, because like I mean, otherwise,

723
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: could he have just died from alcohol poisoning.

724
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean that seems insane.

725
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: He looks very unhealthy, that I mean, And that's the

726
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: other part of the equation, is that like any little

727
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: thing could have thrown the guy over the edge because

728
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: he looks like he's not healthy. But like that's not

729
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: his problem, Like that was not when he was supposed

730
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: to die, And like they have I don't know who

731
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: injected him with this sedative. I am assuming that it

732
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: was a physician.

733
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: But like know that or was it a security guard?

734
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't I can't imagine that a security guard is

735
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: allowed to inject a person with something. But like it's

736
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: just known that you wouldn't give that with a person

737
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: that was having like was acutely intoxicated with alcohol like that.

738
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: It just it's just it doesn't go together, you know

739
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I don't know, Like I mean

740
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: that right there is the problem. Everything else is you know.

741
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: No totally all right, So new research has come out

742
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: to suggest that women's farts smell worse than men's. It's

743
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: not new research.

744
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: I don't know why this story just so happened to

745
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: come out because it was from nineteen ninety eight. Okay,

746
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, like I guess people are searching for content,

747
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: and it's good content, so we'll get into it. But

748
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys this because this is

749
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: like the coolest part of the study. There was this

750
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: GI doctor that wanted to see if he could figure

751
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: out which bacteria is causing this and which particular gas

752
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: is causing what that terrible smell is when we think

753
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: about a fart. So they took sixteen healthy adults that

754
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: had no history of GI issue and strapped onto them

755
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: something called a flatuless collecting system, which was a rectal

756
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: tube attached to a bag, and then they had them

757
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: eat pinto beans and take a laxative, and then researchers

758
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: collected their farts and then they let people smell theseparts

759
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: and didn't tell them that they were farts and had

760
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: them like grade on, like which one was the worst

761
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So anyway, it came down to

762
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: the fact that women's we were worse than men's like

763
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: by far. And they figured out that it was a

764
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: sulfur containing compound. They put it through a chromographic mass

765
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: spectrotometer and they were doing all these crazy studies on

766
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: it and figured out that it was hydrogen sulfide which

767
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: gives that rotten egg smell and yep.

768
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: And ladies.

769
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: But one thing in the article that they were saying

770
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, maybe that's why women are embarrassed to fart

771
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: because it smells worse. And I'm like, no, it's just

772
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: because it's crass and it's loud. It's just like, there's

773
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: no there's it's not because you're like, oh, it smells worse,

774
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: which I disagree, honestly, like just in real life experience.

775
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I don't disagree, because Rick and

776
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: I were talking about this and he was like, clearly

777
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: a man did this study, and I'm like, have you

778
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: ever spelt a period far it could knock somebody out?

779
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Well, it's terrible, and that's a whole other thing that

780
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: they should have taken into consideration.

781
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: But a guy wouldn't really know that.

782
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: All Right, it's happened again another and it's always women too.

783
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: Maybe people think they're faking being dead or something. I

784
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: don't know, Like a woman was found alive in a morgue. Again,

785
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Like how.

786
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: I just don't understand how this keeps happening. So this

787
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: particular case happened back in twenty twenty three. So this

788
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: fifty four year old mom was making toast. She suddenly

789
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: had a seizure and collapse in her kitchen. So after

790
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: she was found, the paramedics declared her dead instead of

791
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: bringing it to the hospital, they just brought her straight

792
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: to the mortuary. And then at the mortuary she was

793
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: showing signs of life.

794
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess she had she had a seizure,

795
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: she had epilepsy, and they never took her to the hospital.

796
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: You see, I don't know why, but she was alive.

797
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: They estimated she was alive for a solid two hours,

798
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: which if she went to the hospital and got treatment,

799
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: she might very well still be alive.

800
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: She was really young, right, fifty four that she did

801
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: ridiculous dying after but they think it's largely contributed to

802
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: her lack of care. Yeah, exactly are paramedics allowed to

803
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: declare people did? I don't know. I don't know. I'm curious.

804
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure paramedics are listening to the show. You need

805
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: to let us know, because that was my first thing.

806
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: They have to be able to, yeah, because they're the

807
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: first responders on the scene. But I don't know if

808
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: it's like a system where you have to double.

809
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Check, like they initiate the like, I'm sure there's a procedure,

810
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: but otherwise they would have to take every single call

811
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: they went on to the hospital, and I'm not sure

812
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: that they do that. So well, whoever's listening and let

813
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: us know.

814
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: I can say no, text me. I could just text

815
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: my friend Steve too and ask him, well, text Steve

816
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: and see if he gets back to you before we're

817
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: done recording this. But yeah, the family is now suing,

818
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: so I think rightfully, So do you agree? Yeah?

819
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: I do. I'm like it sucks because I'm if you

820
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: listen to this show, you'll be like, oh, Nicole wants

821
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody to get sued, and I actually don't. It just

822
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: so happens that, like we talk about these stories that legit.

823
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Our lawsuit worthy, you know, like I think we're pretty

824
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: brutally honest about whether someone's being ridiculous suing or not.

825
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: I just think lately we've had some credible ones, Like

826
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: even with the Royal Caribbean situation, I'm like, you have

827
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: to sit there and say, yes, that man was wrong

828
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: for consuming that much alcohol, but the boat was also

829
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: wrong and serving that much alcohol, and the way they

830
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: handled the situation. Yeah it is.

831
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: And like that's the thing you can't prove if somebody

832
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: that the whole thing with the lawsuit is like that

833
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be that person's time to die, and

834
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you caused it to happen earlier, even though like this

835
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: lady very well could have went to the hospital and died.

836
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: But like now we don't know. And that fact that

837
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: you don't know that like weighs heavy on a jury,

838
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: you know.

839
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh for sure? All right, onto your questions and emails. First, Nicole,

840
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: have you ever talked about your traumatic birth story on

841
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: the potter in the gross room?

842
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I probably never talked about it, really, I don't know

843
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit.

844
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: Do you want me to talk about it right now?

845
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: I can? All right, you got an hour listen. Our

846
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: stories are very popular right now? All right.

847
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: So, my pregnancy was with Lillian was pretty normal, and

848
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: then towards you know, I was working full time as

849
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: a PA, and towards the end, I would say, since

850
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: I was about thirty two ish weeks, I started getting

851
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: really high blood pressure. So every single time I went

852
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: to the doctor, I had high blood pressure, to the

853
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: point where they would be like, well, you just got

854
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: done work, So why don't you go home and come

855
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: back in the morning and we'll check it again. So

856
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: they checked it all the time, and then like I

857
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: would go back in the morning and it would be

858
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: like kind of normal. So it was like stuff like

859
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: that kept happening for a couple of weeks, and then

860
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: finally when I was like thirty six weeks, it was

861
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: really really really high and they were just like, okay,

862
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: we want you to stop working right now, and we

863
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: want you to do this twenty four hour urine so

864
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: they could see if I was having protein in my

865
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: urine to see if I was having signs of preoclampsia, right,

866
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: So I did that and I and it was negative.

867
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: So they just said, we'll just just like sit like

868
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of relax, not bed rest one hundred percent, but

869
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: just kind of like chill until you have this baby.

870
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: So then I sat on the couch for like what

871
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: five four I delivered it already won some week, so

872
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: five weeks watching the Jodi Arius trial actually just was

873
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: good timing. And then so I went to the hospital

874
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: to have Lilian and I wanted to get an epidoral

875
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: and it was like that's when the shit show started.

876
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: The the anesthesiologist there like totally freaked out because I

877
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: had a huge tattoo on my back and just like

878
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do and it tripped her out

879
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: and she didn't know if she could give it to me,

880
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: And I was just like, what are you talking about, dude,

881
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Like I have four friends I can name off the

882
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: top of my head that have their back tattoo that

883
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: had epidurals with no problem. So I just I didn't

884
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: even think it was something that I had to address, right,

885
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: So she stuck me three times, maybe it was ridiculous

886
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: and missed or finally got it in at the very

887
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: and which did it matter anyway, No, because I literally

888
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: had Lilian within. I seriously had her within fifteen minutes

889
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: of getting the epidoral in.

890
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: It was so stupid, So.

891
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: I had like I didn't even I didn't even feel like,

892
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't even think it worked.

893
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell she did. So

894
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: I have the baby.

895
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: Everything's fine, and then like a couple hours later, I

896
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: start getting a really really bad headache and I told

897
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: them I had a bad headache, and they gave me

898
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: talal and all. They gave me all that stuff, and

899
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: it wouldn't go away, and it was just getting worse

900
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: and worse, and my blood pressure was really high. So

901
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: they were like, we're going to keep you an extra day.

902
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: But then like they'd come back and check it again

903
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: and it was low, and then they'd come back and

904
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: it was high, back and forth whatever. I guess they

905
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: decided that I was okay to be sent home. I

906
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: still had a raging headache that wouldn't go away, and

907
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: they just couldn't tell.

908
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: Me what I needed to do for it.

909
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: And of course breastfeeding now so that's also always a consideration.

910
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: So I go home, everything's fine, go to bed, wake

911
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: up in the morning, and like I woke up in

912
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: the morning and remember feeling like, you know, if you're

913
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: like sick and your mouth's dry and it just feels

914
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: like you have like mucus in your mouth or something.

915
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: It's just like thick kind.

916
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Of So I didn't think anything of it, and I

917
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: went in the bathroom, looked in the mirror, and I

918
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: had like all this brown stuff around my teeth, and

919
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: then I just kind of again I didn't think anything

920
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: of it. I just was like, oh, I guess it

921
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: was something I ate last night or whatever. And then

922
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: I was kind of out of it, you know, and

923
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Gabe like, I'll never forget this. Like he comes up

924
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: to me in the bathroom and he was like he

925
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: was like had his arm around me and he's like, listen,

926
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't want you to freak out right now, but

927
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I

928
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: was like what are you talking about? And he's like,

929
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: we have to go to the hospital right now. And

930
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: then I was like, it is something wrong with the baby,

931
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: like that's what I thought because the baby was in

932
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: our room, and he was like, no, I just really

933
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: think we should go and I'm like okay. He's like,

934
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: just trust me. I just want to bring you and

935
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: I was like okay, I no idea, like what the

936
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: hell was going on? So he brought me back to

937
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: the hospital where I had the baby, and they took

938
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: my blood pressure and it was like I don't even

939
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: remember what the number was, but they rushed me right

940
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: in the back and they were just like we need

941
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: to take care of this right now. And then from there,

942
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't really remember exactly what happened, but I was

943
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: getting like an ultrasound on my liver and I was

944
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: getting blood work and all this stuff, and finally I

945
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: got diagnosed with help, which is like a severe complication

946
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: of preoclampsia. So what happened was I was spontaneously my

947
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: platelets were so low, and so what happens is the

948
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: H stands for humalized, so it makes sure red blood

949
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: cells rupture and you have elevated liver enzymes and what

950
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: hap and you have low platelets. So what happened was

951
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: my platelets, which are the cells that are in your

952
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: blood that are responsible for clotting your blood, they just

953
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: they just weren't working, and it was so low that

954
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: I was spontaneously bleeding out of my mouth. And that's

955
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: why Gabe took me to the hospital because he said

956
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: my cover, my pillowcase was covered in blood and all

957
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: that brown stuff in my teeth was blood. And He's like,

958
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: it just was so much, and I just was like,

959
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening right now? So they put

960
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: me on a this is like another shit show. So

961
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: of course I still have this raging headache. They put

962
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: me on this magnesium drip, which I feel like made

963
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: my headache even worse, and but I was like so

964
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: out of it, and I was so sick. And the

965
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: best part of the whole story was that now that

966
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: they had discharged me from the hospital, my baby was

967
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: not a patient of the hospital anymore. You know, my

968
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: baby that was two days old and I was breastfeeding

969
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: and everything, so she wasn't allowed to stay at the

970
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: hospital with me unless there was somebody there taking care

971
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: of her. So then Gabe and my mom had to

972
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: take shifts back and forth to sit there with me,

973
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: and because I couldn't, I was like, I wasn't in

974
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: a coma, but I was. I was just laying there

975
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: like with my eyes shut and kind of really out

976
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: of it, and they I remember them like sticking her

977
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: on my boob and stuff.

978
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: It was so it was so ridiculous.

979
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: And that went on for like a week, and then

980
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: of course I had a headache the whole entire time.

981
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Brain scans everything like that. Like I was crying to

982
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: them once and I was like, please scan my head

983
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: and make sure that, like I'm not having a brain bleed,

984
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: like it hurts so bad.

985
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: So then they did.

986
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: They thought I was having a leak because of my

987
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: uh botched epidorals. So then I had to get this

988
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: thing called a blood patch which is like they take

989
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: blood from your arm and they put it into your

990
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: epidoral space to kind of like hopefully clot up whatever

991
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: hole is leaking spinal fluid. And that didn't work. And

992
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: then finally they were giving me some kind of like

993
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: migrain drugs and stuff, and then that finally made it

994
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: all go away. And then I got discharged like a

995
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: week later, and I didn't really have I mean I

996
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: probably had prioclampsia obviously the whole time. It just was

997
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: presenting in a weird kind of way. But I gained,

998
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: like I gained so much weight and a lot of

999
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: it was fluid. I couldn't fit my shoes on. I

1000
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: remember for Christmas that year, Gabe got me this new

1001
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: pair of these like nice leather fry boots, and I

1002
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: after I had the baby, I couldn't wear them anymore

1003
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: because they were so stretched. The leather was like so

1004
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: stretched out. But when I got home from the hospital

1005
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: a week later, I weighed thirty five pounds less than

1006
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: I did when I went in. Like it was so crazy,

1007
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: and it wasn't because of the like the baby ways whatever,

1008
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: but it was because I had so much fluid. Remember,

1009
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: I had like hitting a demon in my legs and stuff.

1010
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1011
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: So I didn't have any complications after that at all.

1012
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: And then you know, then I got pregnant with Lucia,

1013
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: and then I was considered low. I was considered to

1014
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: be high risk then, so then I went to a

1015
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: maternal fetal medicine throughout that pregnancy, and I also had

1016
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: to see a hematologist too, because I had idiopathic thrombocytopenia,

1017
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: which is just like the unknown reason why my platelets

1018
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: were low. The same kind of situation could have happened again,

1019
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: So they just wanted to make sure that I was

1020
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: all ready to like they were all ready to take

1021
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: care of me in case there was a situation.

1022
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: But I had Lucia.

1023
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have any epidural at all, and I had

1024
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: her and she came out in five minutes and it

1025
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: was like totally fine.

1026
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: I went home the next day. I mean, do you

1027
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: think all those problems, well, I guess you weren't being

1028
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: treated for the preclampsia, right, And do you think this

1029
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: problem stemmed from the epidoral.

1030
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: No, I just think I had pre aclampsia. It just

1031
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: didn't present like typically. I mean, I don't know one

1032
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent because obviously, like I'm not a doctor and

1033
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't take care of these patients. But typically if

1034
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: a person has preclampsia first they would present with with

1035
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, you'd still.

1036
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Have the same thing.

1037
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: You'd have the headaches and the high blood pressure and

1038
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But really I think it gets confirmed

1039
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: by the urine has and my urine was fine, so

1040
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: like I didn't have protein in my urine, so they

1041
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: probably were like I mean, I was, I was working

1042
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: as a PA, and I was coming from work and

1043
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: I was driving in traffic in Jersey, like it just

1044
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: they probably just were like, it's a fluke that it's

1045
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: this high.

1046
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: Were you on baby assprint at all or no, they

1047
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: didn't think you had an issue? Yeah, yeah, I feel

1048
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: like I mean they put me on baby ass.

1049
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: For me, it would have been it might have been

1050
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: worse if I was on baby asprom because that that

1051
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: would have been it even more like it just for

1052
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I'm talking out of my ass

1053
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: because I don't take care of these patients, so I

1054
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 1: don't know, Like all I know is that from from

1055
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: my perspective, that's what happened. And like I said, I

1056
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: was out of it for a lot of it because

1057
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: of I feel like that magnesium shit made me feel

1058
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: like I was going to die, Like there was a

1059
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: there was a part that I was just like, am

1060
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I dying right now? Like what's happening right now?

1061
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that was like the worst time period ever.

1062
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: Let's not forget you made me watch Deal Magnolias a

1063
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: week before you gave birth, so that's all I kept

1064
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: thinking about. It was absolutely terrible. And then mom I'm

1065
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: picking me up from school and being like, don't be upset,

1066
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: but mommy's in the hospitally, no, not supposed to be upset.

1067
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1068
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Well that was like I swear, it was like a

1069
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before I had Lucia. I was like

1070
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: super pregnant and you're just like super emotional and stuff.

1071
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: And Gabe was like, oh, let's watch this. Steve Buscemi

1072
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: did this like documentary on nine to eleven and the

1073
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: whole entire thing was about like firefighters dying at nine

1074
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: to eleven, And I'm just like, why would you show

1075
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: this to your thirty eight week pregnant wife right now?

1076
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: Like what is wrong with you? It has to be

1077
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: the husband effect, because I think when I was like

1078
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: five or six weeks pregnant. No, I was maybe like

1079
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: I was maybe eight or nine weeks pregnant. The NHL

1080
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: has been doing this documentary every year where they follow

1081
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: players around during playoff time, and of course they did

1082
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: an episode about Johnny Gudroau and then his wife. They're

1083
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: showing footage from the funeral where the wife's saying, I'm

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Speaker 2: not most pregnant with her baby, it's like or nine

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Speaker 2: weeks pregnant. I was like, oh my god, I'm almost

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Speaker 2: died past. It was terrible. It was crying so bad,

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Speaker 2: getting emotional thinking about it. Oh my god. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's move on to some emails. So this is from Kara, Hi, Nicole,

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Speaker 2: and Maria. I just wanted to thank you for your

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Speaker 2: knowledge and stance on parasites and cleanses. I am a

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Speaker 2: twenty eight year old who was diagnosed two years ago

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Speaker 2: with MS. I've been NonStop bombarded by a couple family

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Speaker 2: members and even some girl I went to high school

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Speaker 2: with who's on an all natural pathway because our quote,

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Speaker 2: food and vaccines are poisoned. She messaged me about parasite cleanses.

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Speaker 2: Specifically ivvermectin, and my husband tells me stories about his

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Speaker 2: coworker who took ivermectin and it cured his lymphatic cancer

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Speaker 2: stage three and his MS. I just can't and don't

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Speaker 2: understand it. I already go through enough in my day

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Speaker 2: to day life being a mom to a three year old,

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Speaker 2: and I'm also seven months pregnant. It's not something I

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Speaker 2: think would cure my MS, nor even want to try,

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Speaker 2: because apparently many people believe I'll be cured if I do.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for reading, guys, Love the show. PS. There is

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Speaker 2: an episode you did a couple months ago about some

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Speaker 2: kid's brain accidentally left in the car and melted. I

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Speaker 2: think I was in my second trimester of pregnancy and

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Speaker 2: the way you were talking about quote jelly made me

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Speaker 2: throw up everywhere. Lol. My stomach got weak being pregnant.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's hilarious. Now, that is hilarious. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad I had that effect on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but

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Speaker 1: the like i've remectin is actually a medication that is

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Speaker 1: used to treat parasitic infections. I don't think that people

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Speaker 1: should just be taking it. If they don't, just in

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Speaker 1: case they do. That just seems weird to me, But

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Speaker 1: like that would be one of the treatments of choice

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Speaker 1: for certain parasitic infections, so it I don't I think

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Speaker 1: that that drug got a negative commutation like during COVID

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Speaker 1: and stuff. But I actually use ivermectin cream on my

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Speaker 1: face for my lupus rash. Like it's you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like people use it as a medication from

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Speaker 1: their doctor. But I thought a parasite cleanse was more

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Speaker 1: of like some herbal thing with like senna to just

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Speaker 1: make you like shit yourself out.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But are people actually using ivermectin as a parasite cleanse,

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Speaker 1: because that's ridiculous because that's taking a medication that you

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Speaker 1: don't need.

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Speaker 2: Don't You also love when you have a medical condition

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Speaker 2: and people just love chiming in about how you should

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Speaker 2: hear your own medical condition, like leave me alone.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is that I think ever since COVID,

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Speaker 1: we've just lost so much trust in every system that

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Speaker 1: we ever had trust in. So now it's like everybody's

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: just looking elsewhere to get information, and I mean that

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Speaker 1: could be dangerous too, So it's like, but it's but

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Speaker 1: the authority say it's dangerous for us to do that,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time their advice was also dangerous,

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Speaker 1: So like whatever, I don't know. It's just like I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to say about any of that,

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Speaker 1: but I would say that no one should be taking

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Speaker 1: ivermectin and like the prescribed it for an actual parasitic infection.

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Speaker 2: All right, This last one's from Carly. I was just

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Speaker 2: listening to your episode where Nicole was talking about someone

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Speaker 2: not knowing they had a horseshoe kidney their whole life.

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Speaker 2: My husband was in the hospital not long ago for

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Speaker 2: colitis and he got a CT scan on his abdomen.

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Speaker 2: The er doctor came in and said the scan showed colitis.

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Speaker 2: But when I looked at his my chart, I saw

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Speaker 2: the scan also showed a horseshoe kidney. He had no

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Speaker 2: idea he had this, and the doctor didn't even tell

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Speaker 2: him that it was seen. I'm a nurse, so I

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Speaker 2: knew this meant he had one fused kidney. But if

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Speaker 2: he someone who's non medical had read the CT report,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't have known what a horseshoe kidney was, Nor

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Speaker 2: did the doctor tell him. I found this so strange

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Speaker 2: that he's gone thirty years not knowing and even when

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Speaker 2: it showed on scans, he wasn't told about it. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's so exciting. Congratulations. I'm jealous. I would love to have.

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Speaker 2: It's so cool.

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Speaker 1: I remember, well, my grandma had cancer and she told

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Speaker 1: me she always would be like I only have one kiddy,

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Speaker 1: and we were like, okay, whatever, crazin and you know,

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Speaker 1: and then like she got goallbladder cancer and I read

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Speaker 1: her scan and it said that she the same thing

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Speaker 1: that you just read, and I was just like, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: she's right, she does have one kidney.

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Speaker 2: She also did say kids didn't get headaches, which was

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Speaker 2: an outrageous claim.

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Speaker 1: It really is, actually, especially like in the think about

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Speaker 1: the days when like momm was a little kid and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and like nobody ever drank water, Like kids probably really

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Speaker 1: did have headaches all the time.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, you're I mean, like, of course, the doctor.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they should tell you that because it's

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Speaker 1: just nice. It's just nice to know that. I mean

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have it their whole life and

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Speaker 1: don't know. You can have some kind of problems because

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Speaker 1: of it you could get like hydro neephritis or something.

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Speaker 1: It depends how it's it's set up in the body

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Speaker 1: and what the urinor situation is and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's cool. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: a cool thing. You should try to see if you

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Speaker 1: could get a picture of the imaging and send it

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Speaker 1: to me, because it is it's it's really cool to

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Speaker 1: look at. But I think that a person should know

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Speaker 1: when they have because there's a couple other ones that

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Speaker 1: you could get. These are like remnants of being a

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Speaker 1: growing embryo. It's something that happened while you were developing.

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Speaker 1: And you can get something called like a Mechl's diverticulum.

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Speaker 1: And that's also another one that it could just be

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Speaker 1: there and it could kind of be whatever. But like

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Speaker 1: if you have it and it's seen on imaging, you

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Speaker 1: should just know about it because you might have additional

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Speaker 1: issues that like a person with normal anatomy might not experience,

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Speaker 1: and it's just good to know that.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, if you guys have comments or questions

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Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

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Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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