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Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot It's unfiltered. It's your boy, Mike Tousseau and the

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Speaker 1: host charity Guys Strapping boy. I'll at your boy all right.

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Speaker 1: Boyd is a Patriot pipe guy to me, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: another number two teas. He check it to a negative place.

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Speaker 1: Favorite food. I'm all about the Lizzie Lizzies. It's ever

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Speaker 1: been part of a parade I have and I used

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Speaker 1: to have to put costumes on and dress and I'd

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Speaker 1: walked a parade route. Tigger. Oh that was my my

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Speaker 1: go to costume. I was always the tiger one. You

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Speaker 1: get to be like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. Now you're looking around,

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, how you do? Hey it's me, and you're

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Speaker 1: like you lift up that. That was my tigger impression.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriot's un filter fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and I'm back and I just learned that Patriot, I

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Speaker 1: mean Paul is a sixteen year old dressed up as

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Speaker 1: tiger in parades. Yeah, wow, try to pick up girls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's um, it wasn't around. It wasn't for that reason.

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Speaker 1: That was just that's something side effect dressing up as tiger.

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Speaker 1: Tiger Yeah as a sixteen year old. Yeah, well did

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Speaker 1: and you did this willingly in the fourth of July

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Speaker 1: parade will Willingly. So there wasn't some point like when

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Speaker 1: you were eleven, You're like, yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do this anymore. No, you just kept doing it. No,

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Speaker 1: it was like the hype moss, like running around getting

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Speaker 1: the crest candy out. Wow, you know like we do

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Speaker 1: before training called giving back to the community, giving back

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Speaker 1: dressing as Tiger. Well, Paul, what are you doing now?

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Speaker 1: I'm giving back giving back to community. Like you make

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Speaker 1: it sound like it's cosplay. It's not dressing as tiger.

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Speaker 1: It's a parade, right, but they had like you and

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Speaker 1: you address this tiger in the parade. I sound like that,

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Speaker 1: Like that's what I do, like on Friday nights. I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling that you wore I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: you wore the costume other times too. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was relegated to that one day. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to take this stuff from you either listen, listen, listen,

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Speaker 1: he can make fun of me. I could No, it

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Speaker 1: was not cosplay Fred. Sorry, I don't know. No, I

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Speaker 1: did not wear I think we just found something out

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Speaker 1: about Paul. Yeah, yeah, the guy with the Winnie the Pooh,

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Speaker 1: he was the one who pulled all the Really are

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Speaker 1: you into my little pony too? Little? You heard about

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Speaker 1: those people right? Like takes it takes a week off

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Speaker 1: and he comes back with guns little pony people. Oh,

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Speaker 1: my sisters should big my little point people know, but

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Speaker 1: there they have people. There's grown men like bronies or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's grown men who are into my little pony and

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Speaker 1: they take it to like really bad places. Anyway, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be here for the next

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Speaker 1: two hours. It's Deuce is tomorrow, it's Paul, it's me,

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Speaker 1: It's Matt and the booth. And what did I miss

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Speaker 1: last week? Think we did not talk about soap? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well look at this. I have like we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: up the email who the generous person was who sent

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Speaker 1: us these? But this is uh generous his version of

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Speaker 1: soap with a slot. So we're gonna get into the

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Speaker 1: presentation of this later. Really a big box, well it's

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Speaker 1: many bars bars. Yeah, there's I've actually never seen soap

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Speaker 1: with a slot. Well this isn't it, but it's close.

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Speaker 1: The concept is the same, alright, So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into that little later. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the room there, all right, um, Patriots stuff. What's

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Speaker 1: going on? Damian Harris, Okay, yeah I heard that last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Paul put a video up about it, you know, and

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Speaker 1: breaking down the dog and yeah, but I saw some video,

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Speaker 1: some Mac Jones videos on social media NonStop. I mean

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Speaker 1: him working out out there, sweat boff out in California.

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Speaker 1: does as expected. I mean it's you know, year two.

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Speaker 1: to what do you say, bulk up? He thinned down,

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Speaker 1: how do you I mean, how do you do it?

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Speaker 1: Once you get going in camp and you're outside and

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Speaker 1: on because they're losing weight so easily during camp. That's

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Speaker 1: a good video with what I eat in a day

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Speaker 1: with Trent Brown, you know, like how many calories does

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Speaker 1: for that would be cool. Strange, Yeah, five guys, that's

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Speaker 1: with him, and that's a good way to get some

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Speaker 1: it was like you said, it was a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: but not Bruce. No, he just kind of post it

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Speaker 1: But um, but it was fun. I mean it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that was a little weird to me was that they

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Speaker 1: strange you give a fan a microphone who's like kind

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Speaker 1: to propel it as much. But but it was. It

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Speaker 1: like he should make I don't think he's a dark horse.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get a lock, but I guess should I

424
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Speaker 1: guess dark Horse? Maybe Trey Nick? Yeah I picked Okay,

425
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Speaker 1: that's a good one. But so who goes? But that's

426
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Speaker 1: the thing, it's a numbers game. I was just gonna say, now,

427
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Speaker 1: surprise cut, it's not a cut, but I surprise trade.

428
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Speaker 1: Still could be Agalore, you know Wett, Yeah, be tough

429
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Speaker 1: with that contract. Jacoby Myers would be my guy. He's

430
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Speaker 1: more affordable and I think he has more upside. He's

431
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Speaker 1: a better player. Yeah, someone might say I could I

432
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: could use him eighty three catches where we're looking for

433
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Speaker 1: help on defense? Yes, you know I think so? Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm with you. I mean you you certainly

435
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: colored it it's hard, very positive on offense. But I'm

436
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 1: excited to elea see how it plays out because they

437
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: got a lot of pieces. I think Paul, you know,

438
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: was right, and in terms of the talent and ken

439
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: this group of guys, so push it. So the talent,

440
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: so they have on paper there's five receivers that I

441
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Speaker 1: don't see going anywhere and Parker, Agalore, Born Myers and

442
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: Thornton Ye right now, someone like those are five regular

443
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Speaker 1: players that unless you're making a deal to acquire some help,

444
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, with an Agalore or with the Myers or

445
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: something like that, those five guys are going to make

446
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah. So now if it's Trey Nixon as

447
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: the sixth, that's really all you get room for. Then

448
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: you wonder where does Time Montgomery fit in? Is he

449
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: with Stevenson and Harris Damien Harris? You know, he's like

450
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: Yakub Johnson like the position the wherever the slot was

451
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: for Yakub, that's where you slot in Time Montgomery. So

452
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Speaker 1: now you have I agree, I totally agree. I think

453
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Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. So now you go

454
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Speaker 1: with with Mike brought up about five minutes ago. So okay,

455
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: you have Hunter Henry and John U. Smith or your

456
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: your primary tight ends. Is there spots for Asia or

457
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: Dalton Keene? Right one or both? Probably one? Maybe Asiasi stays,

458
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like Dalton Keene's like really ever in

459
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Speaker 1: the mix, you know, from a health standpoint, So he's

460
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: never out there for us to find out if he

461
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: has any potential because he just hasn't been healthy. And

462
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: if if those guys make the team, then in time

463
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Montgomery makes it. Now you start to look down the

464
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: depth chart a little bit. At running back, you have

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Speaker 1: two rookies, and Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. They're going

466
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: to be with the team in some regard, right, right,

467
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Speaker 1: Pierre Strong, you're not going to get to the You're

468
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get a draft pick that high to your

469
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Speaker 1: practice squad more than likely. Right, he was like a

470
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick, right Strong. It's hard to get a

471
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Speaker 1: fourth rounder to practice squad. You're gonna have to keep

472
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Speaker 1: Zappy for the same reason. Yeah, because you can't put

473
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Speaker 1: him on the practice you're loaded. Yeah, right, so you

474
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Speaker 1: got the gunners. But this is my but that's that's

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, we already used that. We brought in Parker

476
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Speaker 1: and Thornton. Right, those guys aren't going anywhere, right, but

477
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Speaker 1: nobody left when you brought those, you know, barring injuries,

478
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: Parker and Thornton are not going to go anywhere. Yeah. Um,

479
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Speaker 1: so it becomes a number scheme. Does James White have

480
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Speaker 1: a spot if he's healthy enough right now? Mike and

481
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Speaker 1: I think he might start camp on pup. Yeah, yeah,

482
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: even though he's been out there in the spring a

483
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Speaker 1: little bit. We'll see if he's fully ready to go.

484
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Speaker 1: This is a lot of ye, it's not going to

485
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Speaker 1: be easy, but don't confuse like the roster decision aren't

486
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Speaker 1: easy with they're loaded well, because they're far from loader.

487
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Speaker 1: I think they've got a lot of good depth. Good depth.

488
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Speaker 1: Now here's my here's my fear. Who's the architect? Okay,

489
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Speaker 1: So I think I think that they want to be multiple.

490
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: I think they want to keep defenses on their heels.

491
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Speaker 1: They don't want to, you know, have tells on offense.

492
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: I agree, because they have to trick it all right,

493
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Speaker 1: But I wonder if they get too complicated. Whereas you know,

494
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be less common. Last year,

495
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Speaker 1: I you know, it seemed they were too simplistic, easy

496
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Speaker 1: to defend if Matt Patricia's the architect of this thing

497
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: and he's got his rit engineer had on because he

498
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Speaker 1: get too common, here's where it likes. Who's I don't

499
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Speaker 1: care about the title coordinator, who's the architect of this offense? Ye? See,

500
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Speaker 1: I think you're confusing. And again this is semantics with

501
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Speaker 1: me and you you're confusing. They were easy to defend

502
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Speaker 1: last year because of scheme with talent, well, I think

503
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Speaker 1: I think they are. I think they had an incredibly

504
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Speaker 1: complex scheme and that's the only reason why it worked

505
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Speaker 1: to the extent it worked, like how many Jacobe Myers

506
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Speaker 1: passes were completed. But I agree, I think the personnel

507
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Speaker 1: dictated what they thought they could do on offense last year,

508
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Speaker 1: and now I'm including Matt Jones, a rookie Matt Jones,

509
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Speaker 1: and that I don't think they could open up the

510
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: full playbook last year, and I think that made them

511
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Speaker 1: easy to defend. But I think that what made him

512
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Speaker 1: easy to defend is they had nobody that could run

513
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: a route for more than fifteen yards and make a

514
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: play like That's why they're easy to defend. You can

515
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Speaker 1: put ten guys within ten yards of the line of

516
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Speaker 1: scrimmage and defend the page. There's no doubt that that's

517
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Speaker 1: why they're easy to defend. There's no doubt that's part

518
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Speaker 1: of it. But again, I go back to the signing

519
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Speaker 1: at Davante Parker. They're going to run the guy. They

520
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: want to be physical and run the ball, and they

521
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: had nobody to get down the field, and they had

522
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who wasn't overly comfortable throwing it down

523
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Speaker 1: the field. Maybe this year, based on what we saw

524
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: in the spring, they're planning on throwing it downfield more often,

525
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: because he threw a lot of passes downfield this spring.

526
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Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that, because there's a tweet

527
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Speaker 1: circulating right now from Robert Griffin the Third It says

528
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is most likely to win a ring first

529
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Speaker 1: of the rookie quarterbacks who played serious time last year.

530
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and the Patriots are defensive masterminds and will

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Speaker 1: out coach other teams, and Mac attack will stretch the

532
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Speaker 1: field more after last year. Has his confidence like the

533
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: respect that it's people just haven't watched the team for

534
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: three years. They haven't. Yeah, So that tweet is circulating

535
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: people like, do you do you agree. Do you agree

536
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: that MAC will be more confident and they'll stretch the

537
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: field more this year? I do that I could agree

538
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Speaker 1: with that. I don't know if that makes you like, yeah,

539
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I just want to know who. Robert Griffin the third

540
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: talk too over the week really random. He tweeted it

541
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Speaker 1: like an hour ago, but it's like circulating and it's

542
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Speaker 1: being picked up and what did he see? And then

543
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Speaker 1: Tucket It's like but it's like, you know, you go

544
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: on these things, and you know there's random stuff you'll

545
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Speaker 1: see in an NFL network and they'll have like capsules

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: of teams, you know, uh, marquee games. You know, the Patriots.

547
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, like, why is that one of their

548
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: marquis games? Other people like the Patriots? Well, but you

549
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: know who doesn't you know Vegas? You know what the

550
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: overunder is eight and a half. I think it's like,

551
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: what are they fifty to one to win the super Bowl?

552
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: Something like that. I don't know what the super Bowl is,

553
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: but they're overunder for wins is eight now. Just just

554
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: as a comparison, in nineteen ninety six, they were forty

555
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: to one to win the Super Bowl. AFC's pretty good

556
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: right now. Too. Um, I think, you know, at least

557
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: as far as being predictable. I mean, I think getting

558
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: the fullback out that might take some of the predictability

559
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: out of the offense. I mean, I just don't think

560
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: that predictability was the problem. Yeah, I think talent is

561
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: the problem. But I think I think it's But I

562
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: think I don't think the last year. But you were

563
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: my point, But I'll say that you were because of

564
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Speaker 1: your talent. Yeah, and you have the same talent with

565
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Savante Parker. Yeah. No, But I think again, I think

566
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: some of these guys that were here last year are

567
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: going to be better just because they because they hear

568
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: and learn a little. I think that's what RG three,

569
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Speaker 1: I guess, was trying to say, Like, with the coaching

570
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: staff that's here, he can use what he has to

571
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: out coach. This is my point. Coaching staff has gotten weaker.

572
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: But nationally, everybody just falls and bows at the altar

573
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: of Bill and says everything is great because they have

574
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. They haven't watched the last three years. Yeah,

575
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm convinced of it. Okay, they still think it was

576
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: an anomaly. Yeah, like not forcing a punt in two

577
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: different games against buffalo, which you like to point out often.

578
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I know it's it's so i can't wait to throw

579
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: friends words back. And I'm not disagreeing with you. Doesn't

580
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: like Mac Jones doesn't have any faith now that that's

581
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: just not fair. I mean honestly that that is, that

582
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: is the most unfair drop that we have, and I

583
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: will pound it into that. The thing that bumped me

584
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: most about the RG three thing was the defensive. That

585
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: the defense. You know what he said, really right, Samara,

586
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Speaker 1: he could It's not like I'm saying, I don't think

587
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: that creative editing. Uh, I'm I'm worried about the day

588
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: offense the defense. I'm with you on the offense, and

589
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I know that, like you know, and I get Paul's

590
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: point of generally pieces are a lot of the same.

591
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Speaker 1: But I also am am firmly with Fred of of

592
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: that I think always gets discounted people making strides, if

593
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: they weren't that good last year of their name, I

594
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: think that gets discoused. So so let's go let's look

595
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: at this for a second. So and I know that

596
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: you guys aren't necessarily saying there, Let's get back to

597
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Fred's original point of my shows talking about a different offense. Right,

598
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: I know, you guys aren't necessarily necessarily saying that. So

599
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: let's say they are using a different offense. Well, that

600
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: puts all your second year guys back in back in

601
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: first year mode because you gotta simply, you know, you

602
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: gotta learn, but you gotta learn something different. Right, Well,

603
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't know the way. I mean, the way everybody's

604
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: talking about it is not like this is the way

605
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about offense is proof that's what they say. Well,

606
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: then there you go. So that's why I think it's

607
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: more for the coaches because I think if there's one

608
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: thing that I would strongly put in Max's favor is

609
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: his aptitude to play the position. Yeah, I didn't see

610
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: anything last year other than you know, the occasional struggles

611
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: of recognizing pressure. I didn't see things that he looked

612
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: mentally overwhelmed. Ever. Yeah, last year. But I think the

613
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: thing I'm not with the appallon is just that they

614
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: have to change it because the coaches don't know what

615
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Speaker 1: they're doing. Like, do you think that if don't know

616
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing is strong? Well, I would with that offense.

617
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying if if McDaniels left and Patricia has

618
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Speaker 1: been I'm not saying in this offense, but has been

619
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: around this offense long enough. Would you feel more comfortable

620
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: if they were just saying, well, Patricia's just going to

621
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Speaker 1: take over Josh McDaniel's offense and implement Josh McDaniels offense

622
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: if he knew the offense. If you, I mean knowing

623
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Speaker 1: what you know now based on I don't know, I

624
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: don't know what I wouldn't feel. I wouldn't feel comfortable

625
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: with Patricia and Judge under any circumstances the way that

626
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: they came in. I don't feel comfortable with them the

627
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: new offense. I don't feel comfortable with them running the

628
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: old offense. Did you like the old offense? Yes, loved it.

629
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Speaker 1: But I think that their offense from say, two thousand

630
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: and four ish to twenty eighteen was as productive consistently

631
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Speaker 1: as any offense. And it was. But but do you

632
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Speaker 1: think because of the talent, Well that's well, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: offense it had its base fundament, great point, but it

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00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: was dictated by its Personnelity's great. It's a great point

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Speaker 1: that Tamaro makes because I personally thought the offense looked

636
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: pretty similar with Castle and with Garoppolo. Those are really

637
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: the only two guys that played any length of time

638
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: in the offense other than Brady, because you know, Brissette

639
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: played like a game that was totally different. Yeah, but

640
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: that like that that doesn't count. No, um, I thought.

641
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I think the offense sort of proved that it can be.

642
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: It's a really effective system the way that they play offense. Now,

643
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Tamara's point, that might be because of the talent. Yeah,

644
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the offense is nothing special, and you know,

645
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: the talent made it look better than it was. I

646
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe that is right. Look over the years,

647
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, they they went through different phases with different personnel. Yes,

648
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: and too tight end, too tighten, you know, like Hernandez,

649
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: we saw things we hadn't seen before. Randy Moss comes in.

650
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: We saw things we hadn't seen before. Yeah, you're right,

651
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: you know absolutely. I wonder what they did last year.

652
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to just hear, like, like, you got a

653
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback coming in, You've got a bunch of new

654
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: offensive pieces. What was the philosophy last year? You w

655
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: talking about simplifying Now, I mean, did we simplify for

656
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Did we simplify for Mac Jones as a rookie?

657
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: You know? Like like those are some of my questions

658
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: of why now you know? And I know we're talking

659
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: about all the different points of it, but shouldn't like

660
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: this kind of philosophical we're making it easier than last year.

661
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Like that just seems to make more sense to me.

662
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: What did they do last year? Did they did? They

663
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: just got to take the Brady offense and say not

664
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: here anymore? This is Josh. Oh. I know, I know

665
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: we're all gonna blame Josh for everything now Josh McDaniel's fault.

666
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: But but but realistically, what you know, what was Josh's philosophy?

667
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: And how do you how do you get transit? Because

668
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: he had to know that that Cam Newton and Mac

669
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: Jones weren't going to walk in here and pick up everything.

670
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure he took steps to you know, but did

671
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: not go far enough. Like is that what they're trying

672
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: to tell us now? Um, there should have been changes

673
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: last year, and I don't feel like we really noticed

674
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: any changes last year. It felt like the same offense.

675
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to seem like the same officer.

676
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: But I just want to know if they are changing things,

677
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: who is the architect who's making those decisions, who's making

678
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the decision to change it? Yeah, Bill, and what is

679
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: and what the changes are? What they're changing it too? Yeah,

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: the architect of what they're changing it too. Yeah, based

681
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: on what they were talking about this morning, I think

682
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Speaker 1: they're based on en off of current in Phil Perry

683
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: the architect with chef Shan No. I know, but like

684
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: that that Shannahan office. So Bill is saying we're taking

685
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: their office. If this is true, we're taking their offense

686
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: and we're adopting its principles. And I'm not necessarily saying

687
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: that's that's right, but they are changing. I think they

688
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: are changing the offense. I think that I've read that

689
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: enough with Reese, with Phil Perry, with time. I've read

690
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: enough illusions in Kendrick Bourne when he talked to Mike

691
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Reece about some of the terminology, and I think they're

692
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: you don't just change the names of place, right, Like,

693
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: that's not really worth it to change all your terminology

694
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: to run the same play. That doesn't make sense. So

695
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: if you're changing terminology and streamlining things, you're making some changes. Now.

696
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a wholesale Like, like I said,

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00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: take the whole offense that you knew last year, throw

698
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: that all away. We're gonna use this whole different offense.

699
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's just what doesn't pass the

700
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: smell test. To me, it doesn't pass the smell test.

701
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Bill has been aware of the Shanahan wide zone, that

702
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: whole system forever. Why right now would he be like,

703
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: let's just do what they're doing. Well, Like, it just

704
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: seems like not anything he would ever do, like waving

705
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: the white flag, Like we just should do what they

706
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: do because you don't have guys that you feel comfortable

707
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: running the offense and the way it was, and maybe

708
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: these guys are more familiar with that stuff. It's more

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00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: in some way that sound like something he would do.

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00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Would he be like, no, we're gonna keep doing what

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I would say, yes and no, I would say it

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: changing things to you know, to figure out some different

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00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: way of doing something. Definitely sounds a lot like Bill,

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: would you And this is a phrase that they use

715
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: this morning generally, you know, like Bill and the Patriots

716
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: have always been one of those teams when teams are

717
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: doing X, they're going to do why, you know, teams

718
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: are starting to go lighter in the box. We're gonna

719
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: go two tight ends and pound the ball, you know,

720
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: stuff like that. This is more of teams are zagging,

721
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: so we're gonna zag too. They're changing the offense more

722
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: to what a lot of other teams in the league

723
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: are having a lot of success giving in. They're sort

724
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: of giving in to what works and it I don't Again,

725
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: I am not the All twenty two guy. I am

726
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: not the expert on these offenses. But listening to Ted

727
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: Johnson talk about this, a former NFL linebacker who probably

728
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: knows you know, what comes, what goes into various systems,

729
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: talks about that offense. So it's very easy to run,

730
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: it's very easy to operate the Shanahan On the Shanahan offense,

731
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: he called it dummy proof for quarterbacks. Yeah, well we'll see.

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00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's not taking advantage of Mac Jones'

733
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: best trait, which is his mind, right, And why would

734
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: you want to dummy proof something for somebody like that? Well,

735
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I also would say, why would you want to do

736
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: that in year two when you would be better, Like

737
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: you'd have that offense and you'd have an offense of

738
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys building right now you're starting back

739
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: at square one. Yeah, so I don't know, eight five

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Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the eighth ticket hutline eight

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Speaker 1: five five Pats five hundred. Web radio at Patriots dot

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: com is the email address, and less you're allowing Mac

743
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: Jones to do what he wants to do and maybe

744
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: just running sort of like Jones is the architect, right,

745
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it's well, it would go to like Alabama off

746
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: which is what we saw in the spring with with

747
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Mac Jones was doing everything. So that was on the

748
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: end of Robert Griffin's tweet, he says roll tide levels

749
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: of offense for Mac Jones. Well, yeah, well that he's

750
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: talking about throwing stretching the field would be touchdown passes

751
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: to you know, guys that are right wide open playing

752
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: against Sonny's Kyle Washalls. I'll say, I really think that

753
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: the RPO thing more your your side of the street

754
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: of not not like trying to scheme guys open. It's

755
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's about letting the quarterback make the read,

756
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: put them in a no win situation, and then that's

757
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: who the ball goes to. It's you know, not as reliant,

758
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, as old guys. Got to win right off

759
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the line, and we need, you know, explosive weapons. We

760
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: need to win with scheme and that RPOs talent, scheme,

761
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: more scheme. All right, eight five, five past five hundred.

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones. They're stacking up Melvin's and Tennessee.

763
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey, Hey, I got no question, Paul. I'm

764
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: sure you'll be able to big this up. But when

765
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders went from the forty nine to the Cowboys exactly, like,

766
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: how did that happen? And why did the forty nine

767
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: ers allowed him to get to that team? I think

768
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: it was a free agent. How money issued could have

769
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: a young guy because I think both of those teams

770
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: were championship caliber. I think at that time, Wow, I

771
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: think it was free I mean, I don't have that

772
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: answer off the top of my head, but I think

773
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: it was just free agency. I was early days of

774
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, right, as far as I remember, the

775
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: early to mid nineties, that's around the time that free

776
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: agency kicked in. Yep. Yeah, But I don't I mean, Melvin,

777
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to pretend I don't have the answer

778
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: for you off the top of my head, I don't know,

779
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: I got you. And when, well, when he did make

780
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: that trade, was he as good as when or better

781
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: when Rivers had made his way to New England? Like

782
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: who was better doing that time? Yeah? When when Dion

783
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: was moving back and forth, he was at higher level

784
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: because remember he also returned kicks and we but we

785
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: got Revas two at the end. I mean, Rivers was

786
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: really good in fourteen, but we got him at the

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00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: end of his career. Oh yeah, we did. Sanders was

788
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: still in his prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he like changed

789
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: the dynamic of that NFC when he was popping around

790
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: to Dallas and the San Francisco. I mean it was

791
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: like and whatever he was on one yeah, yeah, yeah,

792
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: he was all right, thanks Melvin. Yeah, I mean Dion

793
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: could he could probably have played any position. He was like,

794
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, Bo Jackson type athlete, you know, whereas Revis

795
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: is a cornerback, he's in the ultimate cornerback. Yeah, you know,

796
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: And but that's all he did. And plus it was like,

797
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, not to downplay Revis is off the field

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00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: kind of personality, but I mean Dion Sanders is like,

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00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: it's you know, yeah, what player could remake a whole

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00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: defense just by signing him. I mean, he's one of

801
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: a handful that that did it. He was amazing, amazing. Uh,

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00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: spe Is and Fresno, what's up to speak, Paul? I

803
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: stole your line about you know that you say have

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00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: a year about thanksgiving him flip flops yesterday and it

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00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: got some smiles from the families. I wanted to say,

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00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: thank Yeah, that's actually a Matt no socks line. I

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: stole it from him fourth of July as thanks Thanksgiving

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00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: and flip flops with a barbecue. Yeah, thanksgiving him flip flops.

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00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: It's a great day. Interesting, guys, have any good food?

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00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I had um bourbon U steak tips and turkey tips.

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00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Sounds good. Yeah, turkey too. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm looking

812
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: at Dion's like career stats, like he went ninety you know,

813
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: he went to ninety four to San Francisco, ninety five

814
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: to Dallas like that was you know, he played until

815
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: two thousand, so he was right in his prime when

816
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: he was going back and forth from the Niners. He

817
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: only spent one year with the Niners and they won,

818
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: They won it all, and then he went to Dallas

819
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: for the next few years they wanted all the first

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00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: year that he was in Dallas, that was the year

821
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: I remember most of that was such a heated rivalry

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00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: and he was just the difference. It was like whatever

823
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: team he picked to go to, oh he actually it's played.

824
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: It's funny. He missed three full seasons. He played with

825
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Washington in two thousand, one of the original dream teams

826
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Fred rimmer Um, and then he was out of football

827
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: and oh one, two and three, and then played with

828
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Baltimore and four and five. I forgot about you, forget

829
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: all about remember five interceptions in those seasons. Hijack your

830
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: call here nine. Obviously I could listen to you guys

831
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: all day, but I have Mac on the mind, like

832
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: because we're talking about him earlier, just hoping he's he's

833
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: the guy. Like now we see that this year that

834
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: he's worth the draft status. He's a franchise quarterback. And

835
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: it got me thinking, let's just say, because I don't

836
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: think this is parfench, let's just say he ends up

837
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: being below average this year and we're screwed. I'm wondering

838
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: what would you need to get from other guys to

839
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: still feel optimistic about the future, Like would it be

840
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: enough if bar more strange this about other rookie shows

841
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: you their special movie, pro Bowl caliber, would that make

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00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: up for what the future could be if Mac ends

843
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: up laying an egg? Well, I mean, I don't think

844
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: there's anything that made me feel good if he was.

845
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I agree, you know, like, like you said, all those

846
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: things could happen, But the main thing on your mind

847
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: is what are we going to do a quarter? You

848
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: can't win it allay? Is this gonna is this an

849
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: an anomaly? Will he get better in year three? Or

850
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: do we need to start looking again? That's gonna be

851
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: on everyone's mind. Yeah, exactly, exactly, And I was I

852
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: was thinking if you reverse the questions, like if Mac

853
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: looks great, what would have to go wrong in other

854
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: players development to negate your optimism. I'm like, I struggle

855
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: because I think I almost feel like if if as

856
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Mac goes, still goes to the future, Like, yeah, if

857
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: Mac is great and the team isn't great around him,

858
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: I think I'd feel a lot better than the other

859
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: way around. Yeah, especially if it's if if Ma's great

860
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: and the offense is good and it's the defense that

861
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: let you down, Okay, we'll fix the defense. Yeah, you know.

862
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: But if it's the other, we'll get him some pieces

863
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: around him on offense to make him He can obviously

864
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: do it with average talent. If we can get him

865
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: better than average talent, we got something there. Yeah, that's

866
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: why I would look at him. If he had a

867
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: really good year and they would just average as a team,

868
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I would I would look at that as a extremely

869
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: successful sea And that's I don't know if I don't

870
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: know if it's so much as a counter argument to

871
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Mike's concern, like vocalizing on the defense, but the way

872
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that Fred just put it now is perfect. Like if

873
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Mac is really good and the offense is okay and

874
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: the problem is the defense, that's the year I want

875
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: to live with, rather than a year where the offense

876
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: is showing and maybe revealing max fundamental flaws. Yeah, because yeah,

877
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean you think about it. You know. We always say, oh,

878
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, cornerbacks on an island, they are when they're playing.

879
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of cornerbacks on the team. You

880
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: only have one quarterback, you know, and if that guy's

881
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: not playing well, you got problems. You need to find

882
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: another guy. And it's not that easy, no, And it

883
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: feels like you guys are talking about ten or ten

884
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: and eleven when you had I mean, obviously that's Brady

885
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: and but you didn't really have a defense. And they

886
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: still made it to the super Bowl on the strength

887
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and and how good the offense was.

888
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: But I you know, it's just how far off is

889
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the defense. I just I don't see the playmakers seas

890
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: to emerge and make plays, because right now it feels

891
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: like that's what the season's going to be. To me,

892
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: it's it's an offensive minded league now, which is true.

893
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I agree with you guys,

894
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: like you need the quarterback, you need to have that

895
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: piece of it. But right and when I need to

896
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: make stops. And when I when I say that Mac

897
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: played great, I don't mean like they lost every game

898
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: forty two to thirty eight and you know they scored

899
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: seventeen in the fourth quarter like that to me, like

900
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: you know it when you see it, you know, like

901
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Mac played really well. Mac. You know, they went toe

902
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: to toe and the other team had the ball last

903
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: ye know, that's playing great and losing. You know, he's

904
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: not losing the games, you know, I mean, he's not

905
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: he's not getting shout out in the first half the

906
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: way he did down the stretch of all the games

907
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: last year, and when he's got a chance to make

908
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: something happen, Like there was a lot, a lot of

909
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: that sort of happened. Like I even saw something over

910
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: the weekend on Twitter, you know, lost in the debacle

911
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: that was the playoff loss in Buffalo was Mac had

912
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of really good players. I'm like, really, really,

913
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: like really that this is what this is what we're doing,

914
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Like and they and they show him scrambling and it

915
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: was a great play, Like he scrambled out of the

916
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: pocket on the first drive and made a great third

917
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: down completion and route is putting no points on the

918
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: board in the first three quarters of the game. Like

919
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: you can't ignore that. You can't tell me he played

920
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: great that game. Yeah, Like, how many people have you heard?

921
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: Mac wasn't the problem that night. He wasn't the with

922
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: a capital tea problem, but he was a problem the

923
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: offense didn't score and that's his job. Yeah, and that

924
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: play that was a terrible but with a terrible fast

925
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: protection he gets lushed out of the pocket, Like that's

926
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: never how the play is supposed to look, I know,

927
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: but I'll give him for doing stuff that is not

928
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: necessarily considered. That's not his strength. And he made he

929
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: did make a couple of really nice plays on that

930
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: first drive, but I'm sorry. Bottom line is, you're well

931
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: into the second half of that game before you even

932
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: put any points on the board. I can't tell you

933
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: you weren't the problem. Just like Indianapolis, you know, like

934
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: the first Buffalo game, I would say at least they

935
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: sort of counterpunched. They got they got behind, but they

936
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: kept counterpunching and kept making Buffalo answer. They kept getting

937
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: within a score and forcing Buffalo to regain the two

938
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: score lead. The you know, the Colts game, the Dolphins

939
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: game down there, the Buffalo playoff game. It was the

940
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: other team got a three score lead and that was game.

941
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, like that was it. You know, a couple

942
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: some window dressing scores at the end made it look

943
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: closer than it was, but it really wasn't. Let's go

944
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: to Rashad in Baltimore. What's uphad? They what's up with

945
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: up um? First, I definitely gotta agree with you call.

946
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't you know, the defense

947
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: was the issue, but it was times where you know,

948
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: the like the offense wasn't putting up points like in general, right,

949
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: and that that that leads me to one of my things.

950
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: Because Mac was a rookie last year. So it's like

951
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: to me, like I don't really want to give him

952
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: that many excuses this year. So like if if if

953
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: I can see three things for him this year, at

954
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: least one of them three at least thirty touchdowns, four

955
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: thousand passing yards, or he can have a game winning

956
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: come back like like I mean maybe like the Texans game,

957
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: but not something like like like a I don't know,

958
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: like a real comeback against like like a quality team,

959
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: because it was like games you know, like and you

960
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: just said last season, once we went down ten, in

961
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: my mind it was open because I didn't really think

962
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: we could get a stop score gets stopped the score.

963
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: It was it was rare that I don't even at

964
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: all I agree, I think in those games and I

965
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: don't hold me I might miss one, but I don't

966
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: believe the Patriots ever had the ball down a score

967
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: in any of those games with a chance. Yeah. In

968
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: other words, like we have the ball here it is Mac.

969
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac ever got that opportunity in those games,

970
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: not the Tampa game. We didn't have that chance. I'm

971
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: talking about down the stretch when they didn't do any points.

972
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with the way he played

973
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: against Tampa. I thought he played well that night against

974
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. I'm talking about getting shot out for

975
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, two and a half quarters and then making

976
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: a furious rally when the game is over, right, Like

977
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: that's plastic yards, that's like Gardner Minshew's stats, and it's

978
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: all in. It's in in comparison to the games where

979
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: they just rolled and it was never even in question, right,

980
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: Like it just looks worse, you know, like even the

981
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Dallas game, he throws the pick six, he comes back

982
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: and throws the bamb to Bourne like early in the year,

983
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: and then they end up losing in overtime. You know,

984
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: they had opportunities. But like, I'd have no problems with

985
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: his specific performance and those those games early, the Dallas

986
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: and Tampa games, I thought he played well. He did

987
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: well enough to win those games, you know, as a rookie,

988
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, playing in this what fourth and sixth game?

989
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: Maybe right, But down the stretch I thought he tailed

990
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: off all right, thanks to go ahead, just one more thing,

991
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: uh if um, what's the name? Just just a standout

992
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: somebody who can take the next step on the defense.

993
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Kyle Dugger. Like, if we're looking somebody

994
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: take the next step, may be an All Pro or

995
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: something like that, that's the guy I'm looking to. Yeah,

996
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah, I hope. So I just wonder.

997
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: I wonder what it looks like and how much of

998
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: an impact that has, because that will be exciting and

999
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: certainly I know he's getting a lot of I guess

1000
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: press with some of people wrote these things. Who's going

1001
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: to be the breakout he gets? Well, we're also reading that,

1002
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, not just the Patriots but league why that

1003
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: type of player at that position is becoming more and

1004
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: more important in today's n FELL. You know, that versatile

1005
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: safety that can play down the box, do a little coverage, versatile,

1006
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, stronger, you know, like, what do

1007
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: you like, how can he help you against Josh Allen?

1008
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a point for debate, but

1009
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: that's you know, like we talk about the Buffalo games

1010
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: where they didn't really have any answers, and you know,

1011
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: what are the answers to that, like how finally brought

1012
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: that up? I had? That was one of my astpfws

1013
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: this week, one of the one of the mail bags.

1014
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like what do they need to

1015
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: do to de throw in Buffalo? And it's like, you know,

1016
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: obviously you get the front seven's got to do a

1017
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: better job of containing Josh Allen. You know, okay, great,

1018
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: no one leaves this room until we figure that out.

1019
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a Snicker's commercial, like what do

1020
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: you do? Like how do you? How do you do that?

1021
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: And it's not a problem that's unique to the Patriots.

1022
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: The league is trying to figure out how to deal

1023
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: with some of those quarterbacks. Um and you know as

1024
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: opposed to some of those quarterbacks. You caught him on

1025
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: a bad day, you know, which can happen everybody. Maholmes

1026
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: has bad days, just like Josh Allen has bad days.

1027
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, they lost a Jacksonville right you know, and

1028
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: they couldn't even score a touchdown. Brady had a bad

1029
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: day against us. You know that the Patriots scored fifty

1030
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville Colt School. I mean the Bill scored six.

1031
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, so you can have a bad day against anybody.

1032
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: But what do you do if he didn't have a

1033
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: bad day? How do I don't know. I don't know exactly.

1034
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: Do your point, Mike, if you want to play extra safeties,

1035
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: how does that help you contain Josh Allen? I'm not

1036
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: sure it does. Like what's the tangible Kyle Dugger breakout year?

1037
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: What does that mean for the Patriots defense? That they

1038
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: were excellent in the middle of the field. I just

1039
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: I and I do think you're going to see those

1040
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: guys like Peppers and maybe Dugger, maybe Phillips, you know,

1041
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: just serving as hybrid linebackers. But I don't know. Again,

1042
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: it's Mike's point. I don't know what that does exactly.

1043
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: I think just to me, we've talked about it before.

1044
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: Speed on defense, but it's not it's speed from all

1045
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: areas of the defense, you know, Because that's the problem

1046
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen is the play can come from anywhere,

1047
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, and you gotta be ready for him to run.

1048
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: You've got to be ready for him to pass, you know,

1049
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: And that means speed, you know. I mean, I'm trying

1050
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: to think of high impact, strong safeties over the years,

1051
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: and I mean Rodney Harrison just automatically kind of comes

1052
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: to mind of the impact that he was able to

1053
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: have on you know, every game pretty much. But he

1054
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: was so versatile, had such a physical presence to his game.

1055
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: I just don't know if if guys can still make

1056
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: that same kind of impact, especially when they're going to

1057
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: be playing multiple strong safeties, Like you know, how much

1058
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: is Peppers and Phillips. Is that going to eat into

1059
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: what Dougger's doing. I mean, he could certainly still be

1060
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: a very valuable player playing a variety of roles, but

1061
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: I just you know, couldn't Would an Ed Reid be

1062
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: more valuable than a Rodney Harrison? I know, you know,

1063
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of apples oranges, But you know, in

1064
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: terms of what Ed Reid could do for a defense,

1065
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the back end, in terms of pass coverage,

1066
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: like you know, is that what you would rather have

1067
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: right now? In this lead where you have a guy

1068
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: at the back end with range that can say, all right,

1069
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: they might get us with the underneath stuff, but we

1070
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: got a guy in the back end of the summer.

1071
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: But you have a guy as good as Ed Reid,

1072
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: He'll help any defense, right you know? Oh yeah, But

1073
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: then like all right, then counter that with we've got

1074
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, that we got the best in the in

1075
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: the box safety for the today's game. Whatever that means.

1076
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: You know, what would you rather have right now? And

1077
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I would lean towards the

1078
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: back end guy, the mccordy maybe in his prime ish

1079
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: kind of guy, you know, rather than Hey, we got

1080
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: a few great strong safeties who kind of lock up

1081
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: their other team's tight ends. But it's like Pausa's, it's

1082
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: the downfield passing game that the big plays that that

1083
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: really do so much of the damage. Now, I don't know,

1084
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: we'll see what it looks like for Doug Todd's in

1085
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hate Todd. Hey, my son really wanted to

1086
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: go to five guys and hard to say no drug guys, Samara,

1087
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: But a word of warning, get your guys. If you

1088
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: get that summer flu, oh, it'll put you on your

1089
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: butt there you might be with, Yeah, I see what's

1090
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: going through this the DJ. I finally figured out what

1091
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: bothers me about shim on that other channel. Who is

1092
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: who this person is? Shime? Shime Like, I don't mean

1093
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect. I don't know who we're even

1094
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: talking about Matt. Matt knows he's a guy. Is he is?

1095
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: He Andy's news uh sidekick. He's not only like he's

1096
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: not like on air, No, but they do a podcast together.

1097
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: He's on the podcast and he does a podcast with Fitzy.

1098
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: That's the podcast that I don't know it was with

1099
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: Andy and fitz. No, he used to do it with

1100
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: that other guy, Sean Connery. What he used to do

1101
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: it with, Hanim Hannibal Hannibal. Yes, I'm Hannibal left. Yeah,

1102
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: and now he does it with Fitzy kind of. Oh so,

1103
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: then who's Shime? I'm back to shine mattz. Shime is

1104
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: the producer that they let talk on the air and

1105
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: occasionally do podcast with. He's a producer for which show

1106
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: he was Dale's producer. I don't know what he does Dale.

1107
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: That was like forty years ago. I guess. I guess

1108
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: we've proven, like I'm not trying to disrespect anybody, Like

1109
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: everybody's opinion. You know, this guy's opinion is worthless. That

1110
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: guy's is because he's on the air and that guy isn't.

1111
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: But he like he's not even on the air. He

1112
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: hosts the Six Rings pod with Andy Hard. Okay, so

1113
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: it does. He is Andy's sidekick. Yeah, I could just

1114
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: tell you I've been on the Six Rings podcast and

1115
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: that guy wasn't on it. Well, maybe he was on vacation.

1116
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I was with Fitzy and Andy's and yeah

1117
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: I heard it. But the more often than not, he's

1118
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: about anyway, So you like, see, no he doesn't know.

1119
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I find that there's a a cult of

1120
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: the player starting in the younger generation. They're not focused

1121
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: on the team because he complains what we lost, this, this,

1122
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: this and this, but he doesn't see how players add

1123
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: to a team rather than to their individual statistics, and

1124
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to value that. And I'm wondering if

1125
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: there's a generational gap between some of the newer Paths

1126
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: fans or the newer football fans in general, and the

1127
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: older ones where you know, it's we look at it

1128
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: and we see it's a team game, and we see, yeah,

1129
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: we had stars, but they played as a team. It

1130
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: was the coaching, the team effort. Everything worked as a team,

1131
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: and that's why we won. Really, I think so okay,

1132
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: Paul never thought that. I think you had the greatest

1133
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: player who's ever played and you won six titles with them.

1134
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: They also surgery. They also had a strong middle class

1135
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: with good and that greatest player who ever played went

1136
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: to one of the most moribun franchises in all of sport.

1137
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: And one another one. Wow, I heard they had loaded

1138
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: with talent, but maybe I was where correct? Talent player? Talent?

1139
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: What was it, Fred? That one? They were loaded with talent? Right? Correct? Yeah? Team, Hey,

1140
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: we're all one, Paul. Paul does not agree with the

1141
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: statement that hard work beats talent. Well, what's the rest

1142
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: of that, don't don't don't leave out the rest? Right,

1143
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, right,

1144
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: that's different. Now you're talking about lazy talent, Well, that

1145
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: happens with a lot, that happens. Tom Brady was not lazy. Yeah,

1146
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: not at all, but that team was until he got

1147
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: there and installed a new culture. Correct. But I agree

1148
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: with your assessment, Fred, Tampa was a talented team. Yeah,

1149
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: that's why they won. Not because they all of a

1150
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: sudden said one for all, all for one. Here we go.

1151
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: It's not about the best fifty three, it's the right

1152
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: fifty three. But I think that's part of it too.

1153
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: See I don't go all the way to the set.

1154
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean we were really good at covering kicks. I

1155
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of players on the field at

1156
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: one time, and I think they all one guy can

1157
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: screw it up, regardless of who your best player is,

1158
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, as long as you're good, you overcome it. Yeah, Oh,

1159
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I think that's been When Cam Newton is the quarterback,

1160
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome. Do they not have a team atmosphere?

1161
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: When Cam Newton was here? It's like they suddenly lost

1162
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: their culture or was he just not very good? He

1163
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: wasn't good? There you go. But there's been some good

1164
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: players strategically use Candidas, been some good players and good

1165
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: teams that haven't won. I think. I think football is

1166
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: a That's what I love about football. It takes takes

1167
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: a team. It does of talent. Right, they have to

1168
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: play as a team or it can screw It's not

1169
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: just talent. It's not just talent. That talent. I didn't

1170
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: play as a team, but in general terms, the more

1171
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: talented team of course, of course, right, that's all. Yeah,

1172
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you you can just be talented and

1173
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: go out there and say screw you. I'm not going

1174
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: to throw the ball to you. I'm too good to

1175
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball to Micah, Like, you can't play like

1176
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: that and win. And you're in the NFL too, there's

1177
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: but he has some degrees. Let's just pump the brakes

1178
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: on the whole, like middle class nonsense and like you're

1179
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: the teams that win in general are really talented. There's

1180
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: not a lot of like rag tab But that's what

1181
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: made the two thousand and one Patriots so special. That

1182
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: was kind of a ragtag bunch of guys that came together,

1183
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of free agents that gels. They were much better,

1184
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, the whole was much better than the sum

1185
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: of the parts. Right, That's what made two thousand and

1186
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: one so special. As we found out they were better

1187
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: than we thought that they had a lot of talent,

1188
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: they just we didn't realize it. But in general terms,

1189
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of title winning teams that don't

1190
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: have like a tremendous amount of talent. True, right in football,

1191
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: in any sport really, Yeah, Like it takes talent to win,

1192
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: Like to win at that level, you need all of it.

1193
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: You need talent and you know, to buy no doubt, Yeah,

1194
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: any execution in just those specific moments, just like look

1195
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: like the Rams, Like were the Rams markedly more talented

1196
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: last year than they were in previous years? Or did

1197
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford come in and give them an elite quarterback

1198
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: that put them over the top. Like they were a

1199
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: really good team the last five years with Sean McVeigh. Sure,

1200
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: but they became great when they lost Jared Goff and

1201
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: got Matthew Stafford. They became great and they got other

1202
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: things besides Matthew Stafford as well. They went out and

1203
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money last year on who I mean,

1204
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: I would still say like getting well. Obviously Obij got injured,

1205
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: but like I feel like he was a good get

1206
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: at the he helped them. But Obj replaced Robert Woods

1207
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: when he got hurt. They went out and got a

1208
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: guy to replace the guy who got hurt. Yeah, like

1209
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: all the other guys were there, ye right, pretty much? Yeah,

1210
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: the only drafting guys they bring in the running back

1211
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: Sonny Sonny, the backup running back. Yes, he helped them.

1212
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: They traded. They traded for the backup running back that

1213
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: they thought was so valuable they allowed him to go

1214
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: them that they allowed him to leave him free help him.

1215
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: He did, he did. You can't deny it didn't deny

1216
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: that he helped him, deny that he had one shred

1217
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: of an impact on their one lost record. I'll deny that. Okay,

1218
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: they would have won the Super Bowl whether he was

1219
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: there or not. Erect or not. Maybe, but they helped

1220
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: helped him win a couple of games down the stretch. No,

1221
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: we didn't, Uh, Dana Virginia in Michigan. Hey, Paul, how

1222
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: does someone get appointed to play Tigger at the Everett

1223
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: Fourth of July Parade asking for a friend? I don't

1224
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: even know if they have it anymore? Well, they you

1225
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: closed it down. They couldn't, you know, they lost Tigger.

1226
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: They couldn't do it anymore. It's like Fred's the guy

1227
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: that goes around like a Disney World and he like

1228
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: mocks the guys that are in the custom grow up.

1229
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: What do you do? It's their job? Actors performance their

1230
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: job right. This was like volunteer, volunteer, I would say,

1231
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: someone to get it wasn't like you volunteered to go

1232
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: and be one of the mascots at the parade. It

1233
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: was like they went to us because well, I'm not

1234
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna what do you mean they went to Paul your tigger,

1235
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: I have no charge. Yeah, it wasn't exactly it was

1236
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: either that or jail time. I mean he had I

1237
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: had a decision to make you. I mean, I mean,

1238
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, Winnie theo Who wasn't an option. The po

1239
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: was an option. I would have gone tigger though, because

1240
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: Winnie the Pooh kind of fat. But I did explain

1241
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: I think I explained this to you, like that one

1242
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: of the fathers in my neighborhood, it was heavily involved

1243
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of the Everett sort of It's like

1244
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: like Rotary Club, you know, that kind of thing that

1245
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: those kind of you know, charity kind of and he

1246
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: went to the like we all did it my entire neighborhood.

1247
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you guys come, you know,

1248
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: and you know, you guys were walking the parade and

1249
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, you guys throw some costumes on. You'd be

1250
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: some of the mascots and whatever. It wasn't like it

1251
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: was either I did that or I was gonna have

1252
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: to do hard time fred or I'm picking trash on

1253
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: the side of the highway with my orange jumpsuit. I

1254
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: just know myself at that age, i'd be like, yeah, no,

1255
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: we were like fourteen fifty. Yeah exactly. Yeah, no, you

1256
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: do you do things to help out, like yeah, like

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Speaker 1: go to different ones. One. I think that when you

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Speaker 1: the athletic department really gonna be making money? Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: the Big ten should have Big tennies Big ten West

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Speaker 1: like Big ten West would be trips to like Michigan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is like for you usc Tamara's got it exactly right.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing I would disagree with. They'll have

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Speaker 1: kind of the beginning of the end of why are

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Speaker 1: they doing it because just Big ten's a better conference?

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Speaker 1: Well Big ten with the media rights now I saw

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Speaker 1: just with that one move, like the SEC and the

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Speaker 1: Big ten are taking over. Yeah, and the ACC is

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Speaker 1: going to be in trouble. The Big twelve is is

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Speaker 1: going to be in trouble. The Pac twelve, as Tamara

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Speaker 1: just said, probably will be no more. Um, what's I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a good development. What if we just

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Speaker 1: in pros. Yeah, I think that would work. I think too.

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Speaker 1: It's just like that's not helping a school like UCLA

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Speaker 1: and now Great Moments in History. I like just watching

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Speaker 1: I was rooting from the homes and borrow to score

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Speaker 1: like Patriots fans need to find that I watch. I'm

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Speaker 1: It is. It doesn't matter that, it doesn't matter. For

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Speaker 1: the way Patriots fans will take. So Fred says he

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't care less. That's a week. It doesn't a

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Speaker 1: So if you don't agree with Fred, it's I can

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Speaker 1: as promised Jim McCarty out of Lemonster recording. McCarty Jim McCarty,

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Speaker 1: because we've always been talking about soap was a slot.

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Speaker 1: of the sniff the cork on that. Yeah, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna open up one of the bars right now and

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Speaker 1: But on the top it's got an indentation and it

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Speaker 1: that's where when you get the wafer, you're jamming into

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Speaker 1: How do you attach? Do you need to? Like, maybe

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Speaker 1: one seems like it might pop up and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're wasting. So do you guys want

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Speaker 1: your own bars. Can we get a smell on that?

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Speaker 1: Do not? You don't want to bar you want a

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Speaker 1: she looks like she wants to put a nice picture.

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Speaker 1: it's a moore for you for help with you. A

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Speaker 1: lot of different languages here on the back, Matt. You

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Speaker 1: of comics. Fragrant, yeah, fragrant. And we'll put this in

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Speaker 1: to the last thing. So um, But that is one

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Speaker 1: of my like, you know, idiosyncrasies, like I don't like

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Speaker 1: you know. Acially, dish, yeah, ketchup bottles are annoying, especially

1647
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Speaker 1: dish soap, where you get like like the very bottom

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Speaker 1: and it's like only at the like the bottoms, the

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Speaker 1: start a new one. Oh, you just put a little

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Speaker 1: loosen it up a little bit, and zero waste. You

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Speaker 1: got one more use out of it. I think I

1655
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Speaker 1: just don't have the patients. Okay, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: kind of patients you need to put water. It's not

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Speaker 1: a big thing. I just I just start a new one.

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Speaker 1: You might remind me of not having patience. There's this

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Speaker 1: I don't have the time or patience for why are brought?

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Speaker 1: What patience do you? Like? Like? What does the guy

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Speaker 1: who's you're probably that says the guy who's never had

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Speaker 1: to wear a bra, But like, what patience do you

1669
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: need for an under? Why or bra I'm wondering. He's

1670
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. Okay, I don't like it. It's uncomfortable. What

1671
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: does that have to do with patience? I guess having

1672
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: to readjust it and deal with it. Okay, all right,

1673
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: continually just the exasperate How do you go with the bro? Yeah,

1674
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: there you go? The bro or the man's eer? Which

1675
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: one was Cramer? His was? Yeah? I thought Cherry's dad

1676
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: was the bro. Do you know about the cups? You

1677
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: get a cups? You gotta pick your teeth. You pick

1678
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: your teeth with the tip at the time too. So anyway,

1679
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: thank you Jim McCarty for sending user mccaddy. Uh this

1680
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: GNH soap save or soap Yeah, they don't really Um,

1681
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: they don't really trump at the soap saving aspect of product.

1682
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: It's just given. It's just given that the indentation is

1683
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 1: for saving the soap. Could you just kind of take

1684
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: like if you just had a regular bar, you put

1685
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: the old piece on there and just kind of do

1686
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: the same thing. When would that kind of stay if

1687
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: you buy enough pressure and push him together. I don't

1688
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: know what the indentation in the patient would help a

1689
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Again, the slot would be even better. Slips

1690
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: out of the slot though, how do you get in there?

1691
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: And really it won't you know, yeah, you gotta welded.

1692
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: It won't. Um, but it's good. I mean, you know,

1693
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: this took on a life of its own. It's an

1694
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: invention I had years decades ago. Fred is really turning

1695
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: into an influencer right now. I know. Yeah, Fred's soaper

1696
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: views this. This is UM yet a millionaire. It does

1697
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: say it's UM exclusively from Amway. Yeah, so I don't

1698
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: think we can get around here. No, I don't think

1699
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: you can buy Amway products in the story. You have

1700
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: to order those right. Oh, I don't know. I don't

1701
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: know what Emily is. I don't know. Yeah, is that

1702
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: like short for American Way? No. Mway has been around

1703
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: for a long long time, and it's been a thing

1704
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: where you become an Amway salesperson and oh yeah, you

1705
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: sell your stuff to people. It's a cult kind of

1706
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: like pyramid scheme type, that's what it sounds like. Yeah,

1707
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: but Amway has been forever. What's that? Uh, what's that

1708
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: new one? There's one that does that A lot of

1709
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: pyramid marketing scheme. They've got all kinds of products I'm

1710
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: forgetting what the name is. But we saw in Sharon,

1711
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: like a look like a coffee mary Kay is Mary Kay. Yeah,

1712
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: I love Mary Kay, but that's you know, you become

1713
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: a Mary Kay salesperson. Yeah, looking, god, what is the

1714
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: name of I'm forgetting. But they opened like a look

1715
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 1: like a coffee shop in Sharon and like all frozen

1716
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: drinks and stuff. But it's all like those products, like

1717
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: they're kind of products. It's not like real coffee. You

1718
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: go in there and you're getting some kind of like

1719
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: protein thing. Really, I wish I could think of. It's

1720
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: right on the tip of my tongue. Herbal life. Herbal life.

1721
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: That's another one. It's a big one. I like my

1722
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: cousin does that one? How do they do it before

1723
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: social media? Like I feel like back in the day

1724
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: of the Avon lady, come over, you'd have a party,

1725
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: but now it's like social media. That's exactly how you're

1726
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: comp in it. You have you'd have tupaware parts. Yeah. Yeah,

1727
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: my UM sorority sister she like hosts like chosen stuff

1728
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: on like Facebook, and she sells products and so try

1729
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: to use it and sell stuff to your friends all

1730
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: the time, Like it's just well, and that's not where

1731
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: the money is. The money is not just selling the product,

1732
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 1: but recruiting the person to also become a sales product.

1733
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: So now they're ordering a bunch of stuff from you

1734
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: at a time. Yeah, Or like for me, it's like

1735
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: when people are like, oh, what makeup are you wearing?

1736
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm like Mary Kay. They're like really, and then I'm

1737
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: like yes. So it's like more like a word of

1738
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: mouth thing too. Oh so you sell Mary Kay products?

1739
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't have time, but I just forward them to

1740
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: my sority sister, like here, you can talk to her

1741
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: and she'll help you. But yeah, my mom uses it,

1742
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: my grandma uses it. I use it like I guess

1743
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: once you get on like your set of stuff whatever

1744
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: it might be, product of any kind, that you kind

1745
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: of stick with it. And way is the number one

1746
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: period mid scheme ranked number one, Herbal Life number two?

1747
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: What's number three? Mary new Skin? Mary Kay's number ten

1748
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: on the list should be I'm shocked. Arbon's protein is

1749
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: seriously the best protein I've ever had? What does that mean?

1750
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: What protein? What come to a screech? Well? How do

1751
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: you like? Chicken? Is a protein? Like you for making um?

1752
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Like shakes and stuff in the morning like way, yeah,

1753
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: but way hurts my jummy. Arbond is that's all Godzilla entered.

1754
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: That's now the funniest line you found in the shop.

1755
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: That hurts my tummy. Um, that hurts my tummy. Arbon

1756
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: is just very like clean and it's dairy free and

1757
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: it's just taste yummy and its tummy feel. That's what

1758
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: this coffee places and sharing. It has all the herbal

1759
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 1: life stuff. It's all injected with things. You can't just

1760
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: go in there and get a drip coffee with cream.

1761
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you got to get like this super

1762
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: protein powder kind of stuff. And if I had protein

1763
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: coffee for the first time and it was actually good,

1764
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: like instead of like the creamer, the uh, the power

1765
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: protein powder is your creamer. Essentially, he was really good.

1766
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, you guys have done the impossible.

1767
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: You've kept me quiet. Ye Back to the show. Web

1768
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Radio Attias dot com is the email address. Matt. Matt says, uh,

1769
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: well listen, Jim McCarty nice enough to send us back

1770
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: of soap my fault. Thanks Jim, I appreciate it. Matt

1771
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: writes in I stubbled, I stubbled but it's really I

1772
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: stumbled I think across your podcast about three months ago

1773
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: and now listen. Uh. I love tuning in each week.

1774
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Everyone that's hilarious, knowledgeable. I tend to agree with Paul

1775
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and most things and laugh at his straightforward and no

1776
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: nonsense arguments. I still don't know how nothing Patriots related

1777
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: can be going on and somehow you fill a two

1778
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,959
Speaker 1: hour show, which is why this is the best podcast

1779
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: to listen to. Also, I almost fell off my couch

1780
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: the day Fred told everyone after he eats buffalo wings

1781
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: he lets his dog fingers top five funniest things I've

1782
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life. Really, we brought that up.

1783
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: You need to live. My friend brought that up again

1784
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. We had a conversation. Oh, I was listening,

1785
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: not live, but I was listening. I got some some

1786
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: barbecue wings over the weekend, and that immediately came to

1787
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: my mind. Let you let will well Dad, that doesn't

1788
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: even move? Oh my god. Um anyway, uh, he says

1789
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 1: his question for everyone is I keep hearing great leadership

1790
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 1: comments from veterans on the Patriots roster. Are they saying

1791
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: that because they have to? They have to because Mac

1792
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: is the quarterback? Or because he actually has those great

1793
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: leadership qualities. I personally think Mac does have those qualities,

1794
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: and I have faith he will lead this team in

1795
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: the future. I think he's really got him. I mean

1796
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: it seems pretty genuine. I mean, I do think that

1797
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: there's a level of people are always going to say

1798
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: our quarterback is doing great and is a great leader,

1799
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: and that's just something you have to say as an

1800
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: NFL player. But I think everything I've seen from Mac

1801
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: just he's totally invested in doing this. That doesn't mean

1802
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: that he's going to be a Hall of Fame player,

1803
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: but I think he's done and said everything right as

1804
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 1: far as jumping in taking ownership of the position. Working

1805
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: hard players he's got has died in order. We'll see

1806
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 1: what the results on the field look like. But I

1807
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: don't think off the field, you can really ask for

1808
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 1: much more than what he's done. I have no idea,

1809
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I definitely have heard the comments,

1810
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: just like the email. A matter of fact, I wrote

1811
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: a voluminous feature about it that will be appearing in

1812
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots Yearbook, which would be on sale at some

1813
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: point during training. Okay, what is going on? I mean,

1814
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: all we can go with his empirical evidence, and the

1815
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: evidence we saw this spring is that he was a

1816
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: lot more vocal than he was last spring, so he

1817
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: should be. Was he instructing the offense? Right? That's all

1818
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: we know. He's more vocal, right. And I would also say, um,

1819
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: and again, when I say none, I don't mean zero

1820
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: because I can think of one right off the top

1821
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: of my head. But I can't think of too many

1822
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of football that weren't good leaders.

1823
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: I think I think Jerry Goss not a good leader.

1824
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I think that's his problem at all.

1825
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 1: Talent is this problem. But um, Jay Cutler would be

1826
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: the one guy that I would say that's three. I

1827
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: think he was a great leader. Um. I don't think

1828
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Tony Easton had problems being a leader. I just don't

1829
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: think he was good enough. What he wasn't tough and

1830
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't good. No, but he wanted to follow him.

1831
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: That means he's not a good leader because they didn't

1832
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 1: think he was good. Okay, but he was also not

1833
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 1: there's other stories to Paul you write, you know nothing exactly.

1834
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: They thought he would fold, but they didn't think he

1835
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: was talking about off field story. Yes they thought he was.

1836
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: He was speak yeah, yes, so he wasn't a good leader, okay.

1837
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 1: Dad has to do with leadership, tying you lead by example. Okay,

1838
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: so that's three. Even though I don't agree with Jared

1839
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Goff at all, I'll give you Tony Easton and Jay Cutler.

1840
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: What don't you keep going? I just I'll get my

1841
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: list out and i'll send it to you. Okay. I

1842
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: just think that inherent in that position you have, you

1843
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: have to be a leader. You can't play quarterback your

1844
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: whole life and not be a leader. That's why I

1845
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: was surprised he wasn't a captain last year. He should

1846
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: have been. I think he should have been. And I

1847
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: would be stunned if he's not a captain this year. Oh,

1848
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: I think he will be. It's it's just the easiest

1849
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: stuff to do. Showing up, eating right means to be

1850
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: a captain has to be and I would be stunned

1851
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: if he's not. Kingsley Wright say, and you guys keep

1852
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: mentioning sliding someone into Jacob Johnson's spot on the roster.

1853
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was an extra I thought he was

1854
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: an extra exemption since he was a European transfer. I

1855
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 1: could have swore he had a roster exemption that allowed

1856
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: us to keep him on the team for the first

1857
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: two years. He did. No, he no, no, not in

1858
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: the regular season. He's a roster exemption in training camp.

1859
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: So you could have ninety one guys in training camp.

1860
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: If he makes your fifty three men roster, he counts.

1861
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Not the first two years one a bet, Well, no,

1862
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: but this, yes, he counts if he's on the team.

1863
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: That's the way it goes. I thought, I thought that.

1864
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: I thought that for the first two years it was

1865
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: a straight exemption. It's those pathway program players only give

1866
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: you an exemption in the training camp. They don't count,

1867
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: or a roster spot. But if he makes the fifty

1868
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: three man roster, you can't just have one of those guys.

1869
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: Why would anybody ever cut one? Well, that's the thing.

1870
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,759
Speaker 1: In the first two years, you don't, So why wouldn't anybody?

1871
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 1: Why would anybody ever cut one? If it doesn't, if

1872
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't count, you'd have fifty four players in your roster.

1873
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 1: Every team would have one. I think, I know, I'm right, Okay,

1874
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: it could be. I thought there was something something about

1875
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: the first two years. It was an exemption, but maybe

1876
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: you're right, it's just in training camp, you know. Yeah,

1877
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: it's it once it's fifty three man, everybody has to

1878
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: be down. But certainly not now even now training camp,

1879
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: even that is gone now with Johnson, you don't even

1880
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:36,799
Speaker 1: get that exemption now. So but there's no more international

1881
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: player exemption stuff going on. Oh there is, but there's

1882
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: only so many of them to go around. It's not

1883
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: like there's this waiting list of European players that are

1884
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: good enough to play in the NFL. You know, there's

1885
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: only like a handful. Yeah, it still seems like could

1886
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: be a priority for the league to try to Oh yeah,

1887
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: and that's why they give that exemption, to motivate teams

1888
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: to take them, you know, to give them a shot

1889
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: unless they've you know, unless they changed it. And I like,

1890
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's the way it was when jacof

1891
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Johnson became a Patriot. But look it up. May changed it.

1892
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, I thought at the time. So

1893
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: if we go not, if it wasn't, then it's not now. Yeah,

1894
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: Well he got pulled up in in nineteen when Devil

1895
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: went down, and he was here briefly. Yeah, I think

1896
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: he was. I think he made it fair and square

1897
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: after that point. Yeah. Yeah, I think once you make

1898
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 1: the roster you have to count. Otherwise some teams are

1899
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 1: that fifty four players and someone that fifty three. It's

1900
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 1: not fair, right, Yeah, but you took I don't know.

1901
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was that that was the incentive to

1902
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: take these guys. But all right, um, let's see uh

1903
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: Locke from Adelaide Rights in Australia. I hope y'all had

1904
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: a wonderful fourth of July. First question for Fred, do

1905
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you still do your lollapalooza shin dig for everyone? I

1906
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: don't because it's too far be fair. No really, I

1907
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 1: mean it was a hop, skip and a jump before.

1908
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Now you'd have to drive an hour to get to

1909
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: my house, so wouldn't be fair for everyone? Beautiful. I

1910
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: would love to do it. If people wanted to do it,

1911
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I'll go. Yeah. Well you place, you got a place

1912
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: in the offseason. I wanted to ask Paul firstly, but

1913
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: all of you, where you sat on player power in

1914
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,759
Speaker 1: the league. Paul, you have previously a pine that leagues

1915
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 1: like the NBA have become two player dominant, where the

1916
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: players have more ability to dictate how teams are built.

1917
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: At the same time, you have a pine how NFL

1918
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: players have bargain poorly, with the most famous line being

1919
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: they will give up anything to make pot legal. Where

1920
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: do you think the optimal balance is in relation to

1921
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: player input in the team building process. Are you worried

1922
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: with the way that football is trending with super teams

1923
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: in LA or do you think that football will be

1924
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: insulated in part because players will continue to bargain in

1925
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: a sub optimal way. Well, there's a difference between the

1926
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: collective bargaining and having power once you're a player on

1927
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: a team. And they were talking about it today and

1928
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: on the radio, and I kind of agree, Like there

1929
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 1: was a time where you know, quarterbacks, I'm not the coach,

1930
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: But now guys like Brady and really good players aren't

1931
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: dictating like get this guy, don't get that guy, Let's

1932
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: run this type of offense. I think, particularly quarterbacks have

1933
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more power in the NFL than they

1934
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: used to have, and I think that that power is

1935
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: going to start to manifest more into quarterbacks wanting receivers

1936
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and wanting weapons. That's like Aaron Rodgers specific Yeah, demanding

1937
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: for the past, like four drifts like I need a receiver,

1938
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: and they're like, let's drip to quarterback. Let's drop this instead,

1939
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: And it's like he certainly wants that power, but that

1940
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: position commands too much money for you not to listen

1941
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: to the guy. You know, you don't. You got to

1942
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: keep them happy. And to your point, you know, the

1943
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: quarterback is usually a leader, and I think that when

1944
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: you have someone like this leading your team, you should

1945
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: kind of weigh into their insight of like what I

1946
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: think that they need. Right, Yeah, I mean I don't

1947
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: have any problem. I think that that's just good business

1948
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: asking the coaches to, you know, especially if you have

1949
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: an in graind quarterback that's going to be here for

1950
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: a while and and you know, to make him feel

1951
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 1: like he's part of the process. I mean, this is

1952
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: probably some of the Brady stuff that we're treading around

1953
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, But I don't have a problem with that.

1954
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: At the very least, if you disagree with his opinion,

1955
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 1: have a really good reason why not at least let

1956
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: him know here's why we're not going to do that,

1957
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, right, I mean, be respectful of the scouts

1958
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: and the whole process that's in place to you know,

1959
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: to find these guys. But you know, hey, these are

1960
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: the ten guys, the ten receivers on our board right

1961
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: now that we like, you know, ranging from first to

1962
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: last round. You know, what do you think they look

1963
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: at these players, you know, sit down with them. I

1964
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: think that that's just you know, good business and investing them.

1965
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,839
Speaker 1: So when hey, if you have some input through the process,

1966
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: that guy gets here, he already feels like, hey, I

1967
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: you know, have seen this guy and vouch for him,

1968
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 1: and now he's invested in making sure that that guy's

1969
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: successful as well. I mean maybe that does feed into

1970
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 1: some of the Brady stuff where they maybe I'm you know,

1971
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: just speculating off. If they weren't including him on stuff,

1972
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: I think he has less incentive to you know, all

1973
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, say, Nikil Harry arrives, Well, you know,

1974
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: Brady's not going to give him any benefit of the

1975
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: doubt if he wasn't a guy that really Tom was

1976
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: interested in maybe initially or something like that. So I

1977
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I just think if your quarterback is your guy,

1978
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: you'd be respectful of him and let him be included.

1979
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: And some not all the decisions, but especially when some

1980
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: receivers and you know guys that you know he's got

1981
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: to work directly with to make the offense come to

1982
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: find anything out. Paul, Yeah, I had it right. You

1983
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: had it right. If you have a Originally when they

1984
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: had him on the practice squad, you could have an

1985
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: extra guy in the practice squad. He wouldn't count, okay,

1986
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: And originally they said that if you do that, then

1987
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: he couldn't be promoted. Then they changed that to say

1988
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: he could be promoted off the practice squad, but if

1989
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 1: he's on the fifty three, he counts us or so

1990
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: you could have an extra practice squad play. Yeah. I

1991
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: don't know if that has since been changed too, because

1992
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: now if so many practice squads exactly, That's why I

1993
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't go back and look. But I do agree with

1994
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: you guys. Is the way you were talking about the power,

1995
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Like the NBA has gotten ridiculous and the RAMS don't

1996
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: have that situation. People aren't in the NFL. There isn't

1997
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 1: really a lot of like I don't think concern for

1998
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: super teams forming by teams like talking like in the NBA,

1999
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 1: it's so much easier. You get you get two stars

2000
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: to talk, right, and they agree to join the same

2001
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: team and instant contender. That's not you know, as much

2002
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: as I talk about talents, it's not as easy as that.

2003
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Yeah, there's twenty two guys that start right,

2004
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: so just two is not going to put you like

2005
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: championship contender status. Well, didn't like to keep it local, didn't.

2006
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Patriots Bears are on make some demands with the Bruins

2007
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 1: about personnel. Well, I don't know. I don't know, not

2008
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: that I'm aware. No, back when he was right now

2009
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: people are suggesting that he may be coming back because

2010
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 1: Cassidy left. Well, but I thought there was something else

2011
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: that he a certain player had to stay or something

2012
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: like that or go. I forget. Maybe you want to

2013
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: Critchy back, I'll tell you I'm with you on this one.

2014
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: For you. I can't wait to watch the Bruins next

2015
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 1: year with no coach in two year old centers Jimmy Montgomery,

2016
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: we got the band back together. Nat writes in from

2017
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz Mountains by way of Cambridge, Mass. I've been

2018
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: clearing up my storage in my garage recently. Inevitably I

2019
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: look at each item and say is it worth keeping?

2020
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: I recently picked up a rule if I didn't have

2021
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: this and my neighbor offered me this item for free,

2022
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 1: would I even want it? It's a good rule, keep

2023
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: in mind the pain of having to get rid of

2024
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: an item on Craigslist or at the dump. If an

2025
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: item does meet that minimum value, then I give it

2026
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: away or sell it on Craig's List for next to nothing. Obviously,

2027
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: sentimental value items are excluded. That got me thinking of

2028
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots. The equivalent here is if

2029
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a player has a zero dollar cap hit? How many

2030
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: guys on the team? Now would you cut even if

2031
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: they had no cap hit? Whatsoever? And follow up? Do

2032
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 1: you think Bill sees we drafted him in the top

2033
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: four rounds? As a sentimental value item? You who would

2034
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: you cut if there was no repercussions? I mean, I

2035
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: don't think that my answer would change, because I would

2036
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: cut a guy if I didn't think he was any good.

2037
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 1: If he's not gonna help me, I don't want him

2038
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: on my team, right, I don't know. I mean, I

2039
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: don't want to cut anybody. I want to see, like

2040
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: there's nobody I'm guying to get off the rocks. It

2041
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: just depends on what's my alternative like, Okay, I'll cut

2042
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of guys if I know that I'm going

2043
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: to upgrade with somebody else. Good point, you know. Yeah,

2044
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: but it's easy to sit there and say, well I

2045
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 1: get rid of John Smith and Nelson Agile, or if

2046
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: there were no cap rampifications, well, if I don't think

2047
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna help my team in any way, I don't

2048
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 1: want them on my team cap or not, right, And

2049
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: I agree with Mike or like, let's play it out

2050
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: the second year free agents. Maybe they make some improvements. Yeah,

2051
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 1: And I do think, though to his other question, regardless

2052
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: of what any coach says, any guy drafted in the

2053
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: top four rounds has a little bit more value than not. Yeah,

2054
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: and they're always really early, and there are always examples

2055
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: of rookie draft picks getting cut. Um. You know, the

2056
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Raiders have done it a lot over the last couple

2057
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: of years. Um, But it's rare to see guys in

2058
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: the top three four rounds get cut. Remember when Parcels

2059
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: cut Chung, not Patrick? The other one Eugene was not.

2060
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't as a rookie, no, but he was a

2061
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: high draft pick. Yeah, but he was a first round pick.

2062
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: But he wouldn't get cut as a rook he's talking

2063
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: about as a rookie. No, I know, but he was.

2064
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: Um it was a second year, right, I don't think so, No,

2065
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: it was. I mean it sent shock waves to the team.

2066
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: That's before my time. You know. It was like, I'll

2067
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 1: take your word. We've been around a long time. Fred

2068
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: Parcels is making a statement. You know, no one's guys

2069
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: who stink, no one's job as a given. Yeah, let's

2070
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: see Eugene Chung Chung stats. I remember him from the

2071
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: sideline to my my high school game. I did hear

2072
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: and him getting all fired up on the sideline. Well,

2073
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: it took me for like two years not to call

2074
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Chung Eugene. Yes, Eugene Chung Um was cut in

2075
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,560
Speaker 1: Parcels his third year here. He played three years with

2076
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, and he was out of the league

2077
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 1: two years later. So why do you get cut? Not

2078
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 1: good because he couldn't get Bob. Let's get back to

2079
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: the phones. Five five hundred. Jason's in Connecticut. What's up Jason? Gentlemen, lady,

2080
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Good? God? Are great? Long time,

2081
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: first time nice Paul. I want to say to you

2082
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: that you are my assoup favorite sports personality in market

2083
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: and out of market. Wow, buddy, even more than Thelga. Yeah,

2084
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 1: so Fred, some dude, some dude at dinner the other

2085
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: I'd asked me if I worked for the Red Sox

2086
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 1: thought he recognized me. You look like call you start.

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01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that. I appreciate that seriously. Yeah,

2088
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: nobody is more intellectually honest than you are. Entire industry. Good.

2089
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: So it's the off season, and I've been saving up

2090
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: some questions that I call useless, pointless football questions, and

2091
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you one that I think might

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01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 1: be a little fun for you to answer. And if

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01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: it is, then I'll call back another day with another one.

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01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: And if it isn't, then you'll never hear from me again.

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01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure. So here it is. So I

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01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 1: think we can all agree that a football field is flat,

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01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 1: But what if it wasn't. If you had to design

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01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: a new football field and you had to do one

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01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: of the following three things. Either it comes to a

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01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: hill in the middle, it comes to a hill in

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: both end zones, or it comes to a hill in

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: one end zone. Which would you pick in order to

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: make for the most interesting. Oh, for sure. It comes

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01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 1: to a hill both end zones. It's all you have

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01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 1: to go uphill to get downhill, you know, and so

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01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: you're kind of going downhill to the fifth downhill to well,

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01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 1: you get downhill until you get to the red zone

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01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: and then it gradually starts to go up again. I

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01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: was kind of intrigued by the hill in the middle

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01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 1: that it's that it's a little hard to get half field,

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01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 1: but once you get there, then it's harder on the defense.

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01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 1: I find that a little intriguing. Okay, but you know,

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01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: technically there is a grade to fields like there used

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01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 1: to be the old Dallas field. When you stood on

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01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: the sideline, you could not see the other sideline, like

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01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: literally you couldn't see the line, and like you were

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01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: up to like other guy shins. That's how steep the

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01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: grade was in the middle of the field. And Buffalo's

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01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 1: was pretty good compain like, not complained. That's strong, but

2120
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: he commented that he had the hard time adjusting to it,

2121
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: but it was the old AstroTurf. Yeah. So Jason, first

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01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: of all, what made you think of this and what's

2123
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: your answer? Well, nothing made me thig of it other

2124
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: than the fact that I like to think of lots

2125
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 1: of point with stuff. That's part of my job. I

2126
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 1: like that technology and engineering teacher is to come up

2127
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: with strange scenarios and give my students like challenges to

2128
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: try and figure out the best answer to them. But

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: my answer personally is I'm with deuced the middle of

2130
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: the field. I think it's more interesting to make the

2131
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: offense sort of have to climb to the center, and

2132
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: then the hill in the middle would make for some

2133
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 1: big plays on offense going to the other end zone

2134
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: and create more offense. I also think people would get hurt,

2135
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: like ankles would get turned and stuff. I was thinking

2136
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 1: the mechanics like throwing uphill or throwing downhill, or catching

2137
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 1: while running downhill and then like accelerating downhill. Paul might

2138
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Paul might know, But wasn't there a baseball field in

2139
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 1: the outfield Astros originally Yeah, the new place, they had

2140
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: the little hill in deep center field. So they realized

2141
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: that's really stupid and dangerous. Yes, yeah, yeah, and they

2142
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: took it out. Yeah, we were in that place for

2143
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: a media day. Okay, um, what was the last time

2144
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 1: we were in Houston? First I went to exactly Atlanta, game,

2145
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta game. After that, I went actually went to an

2146
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 1: Astro's game in that ballpark. It's a good little indoor world. Poh.

2147
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: It's a nice it's a nice stadium. But they used

2148
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 1: to have a flagpole on a hill in deep center field.

2149
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I think the idea was like that wall would never

2150
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: get hit up that hill until like center fields are like,

2151
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, almost breaking their ankles running up a hill

2152
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: that hill into a flagpole. You haven't you haven't seen

2153
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: episode far Mike's in Baltimore. What's up, Mike? Hey, guys,

2154
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to what, when it comes to what

2155
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 1: you see on the practice field, how do you know

2156
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: what you can tell us and what you can't. Is

2157
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: there a written set of rules on what you can

2158
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: tell us? Yes, yes, yeah, And that's the same for

2159
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: all media. By the way, Um they they they send

2160
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: out a list of sort of rules and regulations. We're

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01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: not supposed to talk about trick plays or specific players

2162
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: lining up in you know, abnormal positions, um kind of

2163
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 1: scheme related stuff like you know, really really in the weeds. Basically,

2164
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: they don't want us scouting for anybody exactly, you know, exactly.

2165
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 1: So there are some parameters that we all have to

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01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: fall under. I mean, other than trick plays, I've never

2167
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: found a lot of stuff that I'm like, oh, I

2168
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: really shouldn't mention that, Like, no, you don't really haveful

2169
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: you don't really have much of an analytical football mind

2170
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 1: that probably see that. Yeah, but you know, like if

2171
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 1: you've talked about Dug well, yeah, I mean we could

2172
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: say who's returning, that's okay, But like if all of

2173
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, they've had a trick play where

2174
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: Mac lines up wide and goes out for a path,

2175
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: we couldn't We couldn't talk about that, or they're faking

2176
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 1: field goals and whatnot. We're not talking about all that.

2177
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: And groupings. You know, we're not really supposed to say, Okay,

2178
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 1: you know it looks like this is the starting line.

2179
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 1: They don't want us talking about starting lineups, backup lineups,

2180
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 1: but you know, we sort of try to creatively go around,

2181
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: like Cole Strange is lining up next to David Andrews

2182
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: and Trent Brown. Yeah, we're trying to tell you those

2183
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: are You guys probably know that Trent Brown and David

2184
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Andrews is starting and Cole Strange is with them, So

2185
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: we leave the reader to sort of figure out, well,

2186
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Cole Strange is starting. Well, it's like the wind and

2187
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: brown flip flop, like that's a little bit in that

2188
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: great that I was and I waited for everybody else

2189
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: to write it, and then I wrote and then it's

2190
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, yeah, all right, cool, thank you guys.

2191
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: All right, Mike. It's a good question though, Mike, because

2192
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 1: sometimes I think people want to attack, like why are

2193
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 1: the media not telling Well, usually if it's something that's

2194
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: pretty obvious in the media is not telling you, there's

2195
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah, and that is they don't want us

2196
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: to tell you, right, And that's why I wonder if

2197
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get we're talking about RPOs, if we're seeing

2198
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, go, I mean that's something

2199
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 1: that you could see that you would know that you know,

2200
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: they would not probably not want about it. Well, that's

2201
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: the thing, and it is kind of silly because it's

2202
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna get out there. And plus you know in training

2203
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: camp there's thousands and thousands of fans also. Yeah, and

2204
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: that and that is one that's a good point too, Freddie,

2205
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: because I always feel like it's you're a little more

2206
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: open in training camp than you are in mini camp. Yeah,

2207
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: because of that reason, people posting videos, People are posting videos,

2208
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 1: people are you know, writing their own blogs whatever. But obviously,

2209
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: if if Joe Schmosas are in an RPO and you know,

2210
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Bedard says it, uh, it's a little bit more

2211
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: credibility if Art says it's Greig's in turn to his

2212
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: giant pillows. Stephen in Santa Rosa, California says, did anyone

2213
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: watch the Pro Bowl throwing contest between Mac Jones and

2214
01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? I have concerns about Max's accuracy or his

2215
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: ability to improve on it quickly enough. He was missing

2216
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: on almost every deep throw and Russell just crushed it.

2217
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: How much improvement can Mac make in this area and

2218
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 1: how long will it take? Also, you cannot compare this year,

2219
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 1: you mean to the Pro Bowl drills or to Russell Wilson.

2220
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: To Russell Wilson, I know it was. It was striking

2221
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 1: and acted great. I mean, he won the accuracy thing,

2222
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: but the deep, the deep accuracy won he was. I mean,

2223
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he had any And then as the

2224
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: as he wrote it, Russell Wilson came in and it

2225
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: was just like bing bing, banging, right down the field.

2226
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 1: But that's what Russell Wilson does. I think is Russell

2227
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Wilson underrated? Yes, I think because in the mention of

2228
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: like current players, I know he's a little older now,

2229
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:55,879
Speaker 1: but current like he gets left off to the comment

2230
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: the conversation that we had earlier. I don't think this

2231
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: Sea Hawks had like an entire team to make him success. Well,

2232
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like he had like obviously he had Metcalf like great,

2233
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: but like overall, it's like those two people of twenty

2234
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: two people. On the first five years of his career,

2235
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 1: he had the best defense in football. Yes, but this year, no,

2236
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 1: last year, they weren't very good. But like in the

2237
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: plays that he makes, like you know, you see him

2238
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 1: scramble around extending plays and oh he got lucky on

2239
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: that one, did he or was it partly his skill?

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01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think he's really good. I

2241
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a little overrated. I think

2242
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: he's I think he's given credit for having done more

2243
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: than he's done, kind of like Drew Brees is wildly

2244
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: over see. I don't I love to overrate him, but

2245
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: his accuracy and anticipation Drew Brees is uncanny, you know,

2246
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: and that's what overcomes the size and arm strung less.

2247
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: You happened he was playing outdoors. I'll circle back on

2248
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson question after this year in Denver. Okay.

2249
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: I think he's like But just because I say he's

2250
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: old Ray doesn't mean he's not good. I think I

2251
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: think he's great. I really do. I just don't think

2252
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: he is like you. Hear a lot of people say

2253
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 1: Brady Rogers, Wilson, Mahomes. I don't think he's there. No,

2254
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think he's in a different tier. Yeah. Yeah,

2255
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: Now last year he wasn't in that tier because Tamara

2256
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 1: is right. They didn't have a very good team last year.

2257
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: But I think he's a great player. But I'll take

2258
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: Watson over Wilson. I think Watson has done more with

2259
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: less than Wilson has. Interest I would agree with on that. Oh,

2260
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: it was nice that you finally came. What about Lamars Wilson, Well,

2261
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 1: they don't. I like Wilson. He's a much better pastor

2262
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: than Lamar. But I like Lamar Jackson. These guys don't.

2263
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: They're not they're not concerned with wins. I'm not guy

2264
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 1: not convinced. You're not convinced. Still, seriously, thirty seven and twelve, Yeah,

2265
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 1: thirty seven times out of you know, is fifty games

2266
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: with the way he wanted. I guess I'll see. He's

2267
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 1: gotta start. He gotta put a play off run together.

2268
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: You know. That's what's gonna come down to. All right, Well,

2269
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

2270
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another one. I hope

2271
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 1: everyone's enjoying the summer. I know a lot of people

2272
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: are on vacation, but I'll be here. I'll be here. Yeah,

2273
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, talk to you then. Thank you for downloading

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02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,760
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