Speaker 1: What's up, guys. It's Tory and I'm Anissa and this
Speaker 1: is MTV's official Challenge podcast. Today we are joined by
Speaker 1: the King of the King's Palace. You've seen him on
Speaker 1: The Duel, The Gauntlet three and most recently on All
Speaker 1: Stars Too. It's Niamiah Clark. Yes, and we had a
Speaker 1: great time talking to him today about his return to
Speaker 1: All Stars, the off season, and of course the King's Palace.
Speaker 1: We hope you guys enjoy this interview with Niamah Clark. Baby,
Speaker 1: you might know this man from real world Austin or
Speaker 1: from the streets of Rancho Cucamonga. He's been on six
Speaker 1: seasons of The Challenge, The Duel, the winner of The
Speaker 1: Gauntlet three, on the Duel two Rivals, all All Stars Too,
Speaker 1: and made it to the final. Welcome Niamiah Clark. Everyone,
Speaker 1: Yayano Cucamonga and the notes. It's like where you're from,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I don't know you know. One, thank
Speaker 1: you for that intro. If I could have that every
Speaker 1: time I entered the room, life would be better. I'll
Speaker 1: work on it. And two, I only went to high
Speaker 1: school in Rancho Cucamonga, so it's funny they say, I'm
Speaker 1: from there, but I only went to high school there,
Speaker 1: but still you would see me. All right, Well, if
Speaker 1: you're in Kansas City. If you're in Kansas City, say
Speaker 1: hi tonymya, Yeah, he's out. Hello Queens, Hello queens, I
Speaker 1: love you guys. With sub Queen and King of the Palace,
Speaker 1: we got Queen Tory, who I am a fan of
Speaker 1: now watching kick so much ass and your athleticism and everything.
Speaker 1: So thank you for having me. Yeah, of course, and
Speaker 1: you just made it to this final. You kicked ass
Speaker 1: in this final and All Stars too. How do you
Speaker 1: think it compared to All Stars One? I guess overall? Oh,
Speaker 1: that is a good question. I think this one of
Speaker 1: more like a challenge. I felt like All Stars one
Speaker 1: felt more like a gathering and we got to do challenges.
Speaker 1: You know. It was like it really felt like a reunion.
Speaker 1: You know, we all went there. We didn't even know
Speaker 1: what the prize money was. We didn't even know if
Speaker 1: there was going to be prize money. Wow, didn't you know? No,
Speaker 1: we didn't. Maybe somethings, yeah, damn, you know. And then
Speaker 1: he said and then we were like oh, and then
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably at that time was like,
Speaker 1: I probably should have took this a little bit more serious.
Speaker 1: This isn't backyard games were about to put us through, um,
Speaker 1: so this one felt like a challenge. I think people
Speaker 1: knew going in that the prize was big, that they
Speaker 1: had to take it serious, and then the rules of
Speaker 1: the game were way different than last time. Yeah, honestly
Speaker 1: I felt that way about you, and even coming onto
Speaker 1: this podcast, I think that you, I mean not like
Speaker 1: you and your and your crew King's Palace made this
Speaker 1: season so entertaining to watch. Like, you guys were incredible,
Speaker 1: and I think it's because you came in with that
Speaker 1: energy and you could see the difference in you from
Speaker 1: season one two season two. You saw in Tech two,
Speaker 1: I mean, Latarian was always smashing shit like that mother friend. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's always I don't want to get in there with him.
Speaker 1: But the three of you guys, you know, you really
Speaker 1: and Melinda as well. You guys really came in with
Speaker 1: a cool strategy and and you made it super far.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like there was something that you
Speaker 1: did differently to prepare for this All Stars two rather
Speaker 1: than All Stars one? Yeah, I think there was a
Speaker 1: few things. One was I went back and I studied
Speaker 1: all of the champions of the challenge oh last guards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I went back and I studied them just to
Speaker 1: kind of see what separated them from how I played
Speaker 1: the game before. And then I also went back and
Speaker 1: I looked at myself and I analyzed my performance, and
Speaker 1: I say, if I would ask myself, did I give
Speaker 1: him my all and be honest, if my answer was no,
Speaker 1: then I need to do better. And my answer was no.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, um, if this, if
Speaker 1: this opportunity was taken away from me, and I looked
Speaker 1: back and I say I didn't do the best of it,
Speaker 1: then I would be mad at myself. So let's take
Speaker 1: this from serious. So I got a personal trainer, I
Speaker 1: got a nutritionalist, was doing puzzles, Uh, no drinking, no
Speaker 1: hanging out. So I came That's I think that's the
Speaker 1: reason why the intensity was also different, because it was passionate,
Speaker 1: Like I came in there like very very hungry and
Speaker 1: serious and really wanting to win. So I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know that translated. And then the second part to
Speaker 1: that is that I was very organic. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of times I was always afraid of fully being
Speaker 1: myself on camera because of you know, them putting storylines
Speaker 1: that may not be like what happened way back with
Speaker 1: the best situation, people think that we hooked up and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I always wanted to show a sensor to myself,
Speaker 1: and this time I was just one hundred percent raw
Speaker 1: and even my family would call me black. You know what,
Speaker 1: watching this show like, I feel like I'm actually watching
Speaker 1: Neo Maya Wow. Yeah, so I think that was a
Speaker 1: difference from me personally. That's nice that you gave yourself
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be real with yourself, you know. And
Speaker 1: I think that it does translate not just to the
Speaker 1: people that know you, the people getting to know you
Speaker 1: on All Stars too, you know, if they had miss
Speaker 1: All Stars one or seeing you on Real World or
Speaker 1: on other challenges. You know. I think this is cool
Speaker 1: because it gives us the opportunity to reinvent ourselves or
Speaker 1: at least show you know, our growth. Yeah. True, but
Speaker 1: you going into this one. I know. I see that
Speaker 1: part of the King's Palace was on last season. Do
Speaker 1: you think that helped to like maybe solidify the bond there?
Speaker 1: And I guess the trust that you guys had in
Speaker 1: your alliance, that's a good question. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: did because one, me and Tech go back, like way back,
Speaker 1: even before All Stars. So one he was my boy
Speaker 1: and my heart was broken when I went against him,
Speaker 1: you know, and All Stars one. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of fans too, you know those like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so tough. And then you know, like a
Speaker 1: lot of the fans were contact and I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't understand this from from their point of view, but
Speaker 1: they was like, man, it's it's hard to seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: two brothers go against each other. And from me, I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting there like I'm just going against somebody who
Speaker 1: was talking shit, you know, like I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: it like that. This is a competition. Whatever color they are,
Speaker 1: I would have probably chose that person. It doesn't matter, um,
Speaker 1: But the fans thought that way. So I had to
Speaker 1: think bigger than myself this time going in and and
Speaker 1: really try to be sensitive to like the fans and
Speaker 1: what it is that they don't get to see often.
Speaker 1: And it's just camaraderie, you know, um, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring that and it was just like you know
Speaker 1: what the money set aside, I'm gonna ride for y'all
Speaker 1: and that's that's just gonna be the theme for me
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, and you could see that, I think,
Speaker 1: like obviously, like we've just said, the big difference between
Speaker 1: the two seasons was the formation of this King's Palace.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys got a theme song and everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, people are thinking that it was really powerful
Speaker 1: to watch, and would you just mind walking us through
Speaker 1: what it was like to create that alliance, any conversations
Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't see on camera, and how it
Speaker 1: was truly solidified for the for the viewers. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: It's funny because we didn't go in there with anything
Speaker 1: at all. Kind of happened organically and what you start
Speaker 1: to kind of see conversations form in the house and stuff,
Speaker 1: and if you're really paying attention, you can kind of
Speaker 1: see what alliances and who's watching, who's back. Very early on,
Speaker 1: you know, cards get revealed. So seeing that, I noticed
Speaker 1: that we were already on the outside, you know. So
Speaker 1: this was going to be a typical challenge for people
Speaker 1: like us who don't really don't really play the political game,
Speaker 1: where we're just there up until we're either used to
Speaker 1: kind of take somebody out or we're taking out But
Speaker 1: you know, never, we're never power positions in the game.
Speaker 1: So I started to notice that I pulled them to
Speaker 1: the side, and I was like, look, we have to
Speaker 1: show that we could play a political game as well.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, it's bigger than us just coming in
Speaker 1: here and just you know, in the great words of
Speaker 1: Letarian putting our hands on people. You know, you know
Speaker 1: this this game is much bigger than that. And I
Speaker 1: think that if we play that side of the game too,
Speaker 1: you know, we can do very well. So let's let's
Speaker 1: start playing this political game and not letting what always
Speaker 1: happens happen this time. Yeah. That's a tough space to
Speaker 1: be in. I mean I get it, you know, coming
Speaker 1: for me, I get it. It's really hard to like
Speaker 1: play the game but then like play the game of
Speaker 1: life too, and then be representative of life where you're
Speaker 1: trying to play the game. I mean, it's it's just
Speaker 1: I think it's more complicated than people expect for all
Speaker 1: of us to touch on all of the things that
Speaker 1: are important in the game and in life and be
Speaker 1: representative of that. So I commend you for putting it together.
Speaker 1: I think that it shows people that even when you
Speaker 1: are on the outside you can come together and be
Speaker 1: strong and powerful and loud and in your face with
Speaker 1: it and still be successful. You know, because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of these alliances in the past, or even
Speaker 1: friendships rather because I mean, you guys were like family.
Speaker 1: It was more than just an alliance are quiet and sneaky.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you guys being that confident and
Speaker 1: that loud and that in your face like this is
Speaker 1: us and you got you gotta take the kings and
Speaker 1: a queen out of the game if you want to
Speaker 1: get far? Do you think it was advantageous for you
Speaker 1: to be as confident as you guys were. You know? Um,
Speaker 1: I think that as a viewer, I can I can
Speaker 1: see that it can come off as as as confidence,
Speaker 1: but I think for us it was coming off more
Speaker 1: so of passion and appreciation for being in a position
Speaker 1: that we were of underdogs. And it wasn't the bottom
Speaker 1: It wasn't the bottom floor versus the top floor. It
Speaker 1: was the house versus our room, and normally in those
Speaker 1: situations we fall quickly. If the house wants something to go,
Speaker 1: is going to go. So I think for us it
Speaker 1: was appreciation that every single time shots were taken normally
Speaker 1: and each of our Challenge careers. I think we can
Speaker 1: all say that when that's happened, we always fall viacom
Speaker 1: to it. At this time, we were able to take them,
Speaker 1: so we were appreciative to still be there every single day.
Speaker 1: Every single day, it was like, Yo, we're still here.
Speaker 1: That's why they save the Palace thing was so powerful
Speaker 1: because it was like, we're still here. So what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do is I wanted to say, look, let
Speaker 1: them play that sneaky game. That's the typical challenge game.
Speaker 1: And what happens on the challenges is if you don't
Speaker 1: come on and conform to that, then you're automatically an
Speaker 1: nowcasting and your chances of making it to the end fall.
Speaker 1: So since the lines were drawn, let's be loud about it.
Speaker 1: Let's play completely different game. They want to be sneaky
Speaker 1: and backstab, Let's be loud and loyal, you know. Let's
Speaker 1: um let's bring that old nineties, nineties New York vibe
Speaker 1: to the thing where it's like, this is my crew,
Speaker 1: this is your crew. We don't mess with y'all anytime
Speaker 1: we see each other in the subway, either we're gonna
Speaker 1: break Dan's fight. You know what I mean or you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is us and and since we're
Speaker 1: all old school, we come from that era anyway, so
Speaker 1: that comes natural for us. That's that's just how we are.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, I've been yelling my cousins, we
Speaker 1: got a crew called SBC. I've been yelling that on
Speaker 1: all everything forever. So it's like you always be loud
Speaker 1: about about who you are and you never get on
Speaker 1: your knees for anybody. Yeah, do you do you think
Speaker 1: that gave you more to fight for because you had
Speaker 1: such a such a loyal and strong like backing, like
Speaker 1: so much like strengthen that that's what it looked like.
Speaker 1: I mean like when you went into elimination, were you
Speaker 1: fighting for them too oh so much? And when I
Speaker 1: went into elimination, you know, um, I look up and
Speaker 1: I see Lttarium and I see tech And for one
Speaker 1: of the one of the first times in the challenge,
Speaker 1: I actually felt like there was even two people who
Speaker 1: wanted me in the house. And you know, when um,
Speaker 1: you get up there and you you have everyone saying
Speaker 1: your name, like, it's hard not to take it personal
Speaker 1: because we're people, and you know, some emotional needs are
Speaker 1: friends and they're saying our name to put us in.
Speaker 1: It's hard not to think that, you know. They it's
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to look past that, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, um, so when you know when when when
Speaker 1: Lttarium was in elimination, I was an elimination, you know,
Speaker 1: I kept my bags packed. I never unpacked them. I'm
Speaker 1: keeping them packed. So when you packed, you see my
Speaker 1: bags are packed. Look, we're all going into this. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting in the room with you while you get ready.
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving this room. I'm right by your side,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sharing for you the loudest. So, um,
Speaker 1: it was a unit and that that was a strength,
Speaker 1: and it was bigger than me. So whenever something's bigger
Speaker 1: than you, you can find strength outside of you, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know what, everybody listens to this on the
Speaker 1: other show because they need some of this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just weird. How there isn't that loyalty.
Speaker 1: There isn't. There isn't. And you know you saw early
Speaker 1: on with Steve when he went up against Tech and
Speaker 1: then you know, you guys, I think it even brought
Speaker 1: you guys closer together. But I want to focus on
Speaker 1: another relationship that you had in the house because you
Speaker 1: have Melinda, Like you guys make it to the final
Speaker 1: You guys had this whole experience together from the beginning
Speaker 1: all the way to the end. She obviously hurts her ankle.
Speaker 1: You guys are so supportive of each other. I mean,
Speaker 1: even seeing both of your Instagram posts, it's like you
Speaker 1: could just see, like the love is so real, it's
Speaker 1: so deep, it's it's it's a friendship that's gonna last forever.
Speaker 1: And so how was it like to reunite with her?
Speaker 1: She was your original cast mate in Austin and real world,
Speaker 1: So what was it like to reunite with her and
Speaker 1: work with her on this challenge? You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I think the biggest win for
Speaker 1: me was getting that bond back with her. That's so funny,
Speaker 1: cute man, know, like that was we because we always
Speaker 1: knew that we had that love for each other, but
Speaker 1: we didn't talk that much. You know, life happens when
Speaker 1: you're older and you know you're in different parts of
Speaker 1: the world and people are married and there's kids involved
Speaker 1: in stuff. So we know what happens when you hit
Speaker 1: your thirties we're not as close as we want to
Speaker 1: be in our hearts. So having us come together and
Speaker 1: share a room, that that bond, you know, came back
Speaker 1: and to me, that was the one because now we
Speaker 1: talk every other day. I know what's going on in
Speaker 1: her life, you know. Um, I know what's going on
Speaker 1: with Cam then um. And it's it's one of the
Speaker 1: best things that you can ask for because at our
Speaker 1: age we don't really get to, you know, get those
Speaker 1: solid bonds anymore, you know, and to get that it's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's better than gold. Yeah. Melinda,
Speaker 1: Melinda is a real one too. We just had her
Speaker 1: on our love her. She is absolutely it's so funny.
Speaker 1: I love her. Shout out to Melinda. Absolutely. And and
Speaker 1: you guys got to see in this this season like
Speaker 1: when I love you, I love you. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a Scorpio. So like when I love you, I'm loving
Speaker 1: you to the death. Then everything you're going through I'm
Speaker 1: going through. We're going But when I hate you, you
Speaker 1: that side. Yeah, that's that stinger, you know, that's feel
Speaker 1: it I feel That's That's what I've been working on
Speaker 1: with as you know that there's never ever a point
Speaker 1: in my life where I could hate you. Um, we go,
Speaker 1: we go back since my first challenge, and there's there's
Speaker 1: nothing that you could do, Like you could anybody could
Speaker 1: do stuff to me in the game, and once the
Speaker 1: game is done, I don't care. Yeah, like that's the game.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Like if we were in the streets,
Speaker 1: I got you, you know, you know, like if you
Speaker 1: were a filling or like if you were I don't care.
Speaker 1: What if some shit happened I had, Like that's what
Speaker 1: really matters to me, exactly exactly. I got your back.
Speaker 1: You call me and say somebody doing something wrong, you
Speaker 1: point him out. He's done you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: haven't done that guy, You've done that, you know, So
Speaker 1: kick him the balls a lot. We're gonna get him. So. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I love. I love all the way. I
Speaker 1: love all the way with all my heart. And that's
Speaker 1: hard to turn on and off on the challenges. And
Speaker 1: I think this season, you know, we got to see
Speaker 1: that from me. Yeah, and like you said, it's it's
Speaker 1: out of passion. But you look, I didn't know your scorpio.
Speaker 1: Now it's all making so much sense, and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: I like that they gotta smell him too. He smells amazing.
Speaker 1: He's just always like a passionate lover. If you know
Speaker 1: what that's if I could just bottle passionate, passionate lover.
Speaker 1: Vegan sent, Oh, I'm sure he does. He is the
Speaker 1: best smelling guy on the challenge. I will say, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he smells great. I'm sure that nobody smelled great
Speaker 1: during that final. We had John Ay and m Jahn
Speaker 1: to discuss the final. They said it was brutal and
Speaker 1: honestly it looked harder than the final that we just
Speaker 1: did on Spiesies and Allies. I just want to know
Speaker 1: what was the most difficult part of the final for you?
Speaker 1: Oh Man, good question. I think, Um, the bike ride
Speaker 1: yea for me personally because we did it last so
Speaker 1: there was there was one puzzle piece that mug was
Speaker 1: like Tenley and you're riding it in sand and um,
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy because me and Melinda finally get
Speaker 1: there and we both just get off our bikes and collapse,
Speaker 1: and I think everybody had that moment where You're like, um,
Speaker 1: how are we going to get through this? And I'm
Speaker 1: cramping her ankle swollen. Um, So we like take a breather,
Speaker 1: and it's funny. I'm like, I started doing like some
Speaker 1: reiky honor and then um, we get up and then
Speaker 1: we go and um we pushed through. But to me,
Speaker 1: that was that was the point where I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't That was almost close to a breaking point
Speaker 1: for me. But in the heat, So those two things,
Speaker 1: yeah out oh man. To be honest, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that saved us was not
Speaker 1: heaving hills. You know, it was pretty flat, so I
Speaker 1: think I think that helped. If there was hills, the
Speaker 1: sand tethered together, true dehydrated weight was broken. Ankle was
Speaker 1: all it was all season two? Like, was it relatively
Speaker 1: that hot the whole time? Yes, So I think you've
Speaker 1: become acclimated to that then, like the change, and we've
Speaker 1: seen it on other challenges where like the weather's fine
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're in Croatia Prague
Speaker 1: and then it's like one hundred degrees. Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad that everybody stuck with it as much as they could,
Speaker 1: you know, but even being sleep deprived like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this final started off with sleep deprivation like this, that's
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the hardest thing to ever endure in
Speaker 1: a final. It's sleep deprivation. Like I cried staying up,
Speaker 1: So you know what is I cried? So you start
Speaker 1: with it, You start with it. I mean, like, honestly,
Speaker 1: watching this this final makes me nervous because you know,
Speaker 1: like everyone says All Stars, you know, they it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be this like more fun, more reunion type of show.
Speaker 1: It's not. That's the same. You're doing the same even harder.
Speaker 1: This final looked way harder. So, um, I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys were definitely I think one of the biggest threats
Speaker 1: going into the game. Who did you think? Who did
Speaker 1: you and Melinda think were is going to be your
Speaker 1: biggest threat? I think that we were split. Um, I
Speaker 1: think that Melinda thought Durrell and Janelle would be our
Speaker 1: biggest threat, and to me, I thought that, um, m
Speaker 1: J and John A would be our biggest threat. What
Speaker 1: was the difference for you? For me, I knew I
Speaker 1: knew John Ay, and I knew how well she had
Speaker 1: improved and how bad she wanted it. And to me,
Speaker 1: like when I looked at the teams, I was just
Speaker 1: like m J could carry John Ay if he if
Speaker 1: he needed to, but I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Durrelle could carry Janelle up at hill because their
Speaker 1: heights are similar, Like, I know he could, but probably
Speaker 1: not as long as m J could carry john Ay.
Speaker 1: So those are the things I was looking at. And
Speaker 1: then I'm looking at puzzles, and I know Johnny's good
Speaker 1: at puzzles. And then I was looking at how they
Speaker 1: performed on the Mini final. So like this whole challenge,
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep. I'm calculating every single move the whole time.
Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping at all, So every move that's happening
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. So to me, they were a little
Speaker 1: bit tougher. And then Tech also felt that Durrell and
Speaker 1: Janelle were a tougher team, and so did Iana, so
Speaker 1: it leaned that way. But I was leaning towards m
Speaker 1: J john because they were they were strong. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you saved them from the final elimination. I did. And
Speaker 1: there was a couple of things that went into that. One.
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be a group decision to um,
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny's like an actual friend, you know, outside
Speaker 1: of that. So, like I said, I wanted to not
Speaker 1: play this game with my heart but it's still hard
Speaker 1: for me being a scorpio. My heart is there and
Speaker 1: I play with it, and it's very hard for me
Speaker 1: to turn it on and off like that. So there
Speaker 1: was a lot of factors that went into and I
Speaker 1: have so much love for john A and her family
Speaker 1: that you know, that kind of helped pushed it the
Speaker 1: other way, even though it was a tough decision to make. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get deep in the game, like
Speaker 1: and you're at that point it's your rock and hard place, like,
Speaker 1: it's so difficult to make a decision and you just
Speaker 1: have to trust that you're doing the best thing that
Speaker 1: you can. If you could go back in time now
Speaker 1: that you know the outcome, now that you know that
Speaker 1: they they won, would you have reconsidered that move? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's um, that's Monday quarterback, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and that's hindsight. And it happened exactly how
Speaker 1: it was supposed to happen. And they won based off
Speaker 1: of all the rules that all of us were given.
Speaker 1: And they won fair and square based off all the rules.
Speaker 1: So they didn't quit, and you know, they deserved that win. So, um,
Speaker 1: I look at it like there were other wins that
Speaker 1: I personally was supposed to take away from that, And
Speaker 1: even though in my mind I wanted the money, the
Speaker 1: universe had other wins for me. So I just took
Speaker 1: those and I'm appreciative of exactly how it happened, and
Speaker 1: I looked back like it happened exactly how it was
Speaker 1: supposed to. Was there any other moments from this season
Speaker 1: that you felt like you were pushed to your limit
Speaker 1: physically or emotionally prior to the final hmm man, great question.
Speaker 1: You know, I think maybe definitely emotionally. You know, like
Speaker 1: so many times emotionally, if we go back pretty much
Speaker 1: after the Literarian and Tyler elimination, I was in every
Speaker 1: single time, so voted in not in because the performance
Speaker 1: were voted in. So you know, you had to sit
Speaker 1: up there and you had to have your friends look
Speaker 1: you in the face and you're like, yep, me and
Speaker 1: might wunt you in. So emotionally that one, um, it
Speaker 1: was a roller coaster for me. And then there was
Speaker 1: a conversation that me and Durell had one time he
Speaker 1: was like, just so you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: vote for you up there. Uh, And then we go
Speaker 1: up there and he says my name and I was like, motherfuck. So,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of times where I had
Speaker 1: to keep reminding myself that it's just a game. It's
Speaker 1: just a game. Um, so I you know, uh, I
Speaker 1: just started having fun with it. I would just go
Speaker 1: up there and just start saying jokes the whole time.
Speaker 1: You know, um, look at people cross side and stuff
Speaker 1: while they were saying my name. I just go up
Speaker 1: there and just and just have fun with it and
Speaker 1: then try to take that into an elimination. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like it's your job title. Like we've been here before.
Speaker 1: Putt into elimination and put into elimination. It's nothing to you.
Speaker 1: But when you get to do it a lot, you
Speaker 1: start to like you start to claim it, like, oh
Speaker 1: I gotta just do two challenges today. That's cool. But
Speaker 1: I mean that's so that's so powerful, Like think about
Speaker 1: it's rewarding at the end when you're in that final
Speaker 1: and you're like, I thought I really thought to get here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it definitely different way that attitude translates into regular
Speaker 1: life in so many different ways. It's like once you
Speaker 1: kind of overcome the like being attacked and owning where
Speaker 1: you are and owning what you have to do. Like
Speaker 1: you said, when you learn how to make jokes about
Speaker 1: that shit, I mean, it's it's game changing. No one
Speaker 1: can take that from you. Now you're unbeatable, Like you
Speaker 1: can't bring the spirit. Yeah, it's it's a superpower. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of times we think that
Speaker 1: we want life to get easier, but in reality, we
Speaker 1: don't want life to get easier. We just want better
Speaker 1: tools to deal with life. And that's really what it
Speaker 1: comes yea. And all of those things that we go
Speaker 1: through gives us the tools because we know we've been
Speaker 1: here before. So now I've had a bunch of people
Speaker 1: saying my names. Now on the second time I'm going
Speaker 1: through it, I have the strength and I have a
Speaker 1: little bit more power in my armor because this I've
Speaker 1: gone through and this is how I handle it. So
Speaker 1: this is how I handle it this time. But I
Speaker 1: can actually do it better because I learned from that one.
Speaker 1: And this is what I'm taking away. So when we
Speaker 1: really look at life just being a bunch of experiences
Speaker 1: that are meant just to help us learn, and then
Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of take away the power
Speaker 1: of it controlling our emotions, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if all of these external things can control
Speaker 1: your emotions, that's that's technically the definition of hell, because
Speaker 1: you'll never find happiness when you're writing this book and
Speaker 1: with it, the deluxe book of poems. Yeah, when does
Speaker 1: this give us a high coup? It's coming, It's coming,
Speaker 1: It's coming, it's coming. You know, I got you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work on. I think this is a good time.
Speaker 1: You know, before, back when I was on like the
Speaker 1: Duel two and stuff, it was a little bit it
Speaker 1: was a little bit weird at the time. But I
Speaker 1: think now we've come to a place, you know, and
Speaker 1: I had the incense and all that and right in
Speaker 1: the mantras and you know, meditatement stuff. It was, it
Speaker 1: was it was definitely ahead of its time, you know.
Speaker 1: And um, and now it's full circle. So I'm thankful
Speaker 1: that the platform still even shows it because I think
Speaker 1: that now this is the time in life when we
Speaker 1: need to be because those tools are are very helpful.
Speaker 1: When you're sitting inside of your house and you got
Speaker 1: a quarantine for ten days, and you know, you got
Speaker 1: that voice that you've been avoiding through distractions. Now it's loud,
Speaker 1: and you got to know the difference between self and
Speaker 1: the ego. And you know, once you start to have
Speaker 1: those tools, you know it's Um, these are the times
Speaker 1: I think that they're most useful. Um. I mean clearly,
Speaker 1: if you're doing raky in the middle of a final, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, is gonna have to learn put in
Speaker 1: the notebook tour learn. You know I predicted Casey's pregnancy, right, No, okay, So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm doing raky on John A, Melinda, Um, Casey, and Janelle. Uh.
Speaker 1: One day in the room, the cameras were down. I
Speaker 1: think we had lost a c and some lights, so
Speaker 1: I'm doing raking on them. Then I do Casey and
Speaker 1: then Casey. UM. One. I just had my pendulum to
Speaker 1: check her chakras, her crown, and then her heart. So
Speaker 1: I was working on her heart and then said moved
Speaker 1: to the crown. So I'm on the crown and then
Speaker 1: I get this vision of her with a baby and
Speaker 1: she's like swinging it in dandelions in like a park.
Speaker 1: And then when I'm done, I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm seeing this vision of like you and a
Speaker 1: baby girl and you're in a park. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that means anything to you, but this is what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. So if you're not planning on having kids,
Speaker 1: you're gonna probably have one soon. And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just weird. It was just so out of
Speaker 1: left field. And then um, a week later we find
Speaker 1: out she's pregnant. Well, I hope they're listening because instead
Speaker 1: of instead of doing Tesla on us guys, we could
Speaker 1: just bring me a Maya in for a little breaky
Speaker 1: to make sure none of the cast members are pregnant
Speaker 1: before a week go our show. Are we gonna call
Speaker 1: you nia donnas, Nostro, nostro, ni amaya? What is nastya
Speaker 1: and nostremaya? What are we gonna go with you? Because
Speaker 1: Niadna it sounds better because that sounds like a nostril.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was that was weird. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a weird time. You know, I did your name and
Speaker 1: then I was like, you know, I'm just getting the
Speaker 1: color orange and yellow, so I was like sacral plex uh,
Speaker 1: you know that chakra stuff. And then when I tell her,
Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, that's so weird. I
Speaker 1: was in the airport and some random lady just came
Speaker 1: up and gave me cars, and so I need to
Speaker 1: concentrate on one, and they were orange and yellow. Shut
Speaker 1: the fuck. So what do you see from us? Um
Speaker 1: dead from Mexico vibes? Gray but gray detox vibes. We
Speaker 1: just got back from vacation. Because because I love y'all.
Speaker 1: Because I love y'all, I'll do that off off camera.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm scared. I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Rights moving today. Tory needs a lot of We're just
Speaker 1: sending her a lot of positive stuff. Oh nice? Oh nice?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you standing in Florida? I'm moving to Miami.
Speaker 1: It's the big move man. Yeah, I spot out there now.
Speaker 1: So you guys got to come. Anybody who's who's out
Speaker 1: there is challenge. Family is welcome because I need some
Speaker 1: love I don't have. I mean, I have a few
Speaker 1: friends out there, but I need some good people to
Speaker 1: slide through. So right there, done done. I need a
Speaker 1: winter winter. Yeah, I'll put I'll put a TP in
Speaker 1: my backyard because I'm gonna redo the whole thing and
Speaker 1: we could just have a camper. Done. Done yeah, perfect?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, but before we go into this Miami move,
Speaker 1: I want to know what are you most proud of
Speaker 1: this season? Because after hearing how much you've accomplished emotionally
Speaker 1: to get through it and hearing how difficult that was,
Speaker 1: but also knowing that you trained so much and got
Speaker 1: a nutritionist before we even got on there, what do
Speaker 1: you think was like? What makes you most proud? Was
Speaker 1: it the mental aspect that you've accomplished with a physical aspect? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I hate to go deep again, but no go deep.
Speaker 1: Um Seeing MTV, seeing podcast people, um anytime they talk
Speaker 1: about literary and Durell or anyone them referencing them with
Speaker 1: the term king. That, Yeah, that's the biggest thing. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me. That um Man, that that
Speaker 1: that hits home because now you get ah, you get
Speaker 1: to add new narrative, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: and you get to add new perspective. And when you
Speaker 1: have UM other people like saying like MTV putting a
Speaker 1: picture on the challenge Instagram and it's like militarian and
Speaker 1: stuff and they say royal family, It's like, to me,
Speaker 1: that's powerful. I'm like, oh my god, that's that's huge.
Speaker 1: So to me, I think that's the best. The biggest
Speaker 1: thing is um is that alone. Yeah, I agree, that
Speaker 1: was a really when they introduced the King's Palace, I
Speaker 1: think even Tori you were saying like that was just
Speaker 1: a powerful episode. I don't of itself just like showing
Speaker 1: that because we don't, I don't. We don't get enough
Speaker 1: of it. To be honest, you guys were my favorite
Speaker 1: part of the season, like not just everything about it.
Speaker 1: You guys made the show really and like me and
Speaker 1: I you should be so proud because, like you said,
Speaker 1: the effect that it that it has, It's like like
Speaker 1: you change the narrative completely and now people look at
Speaker 1: you guys, and I'm like, I want you. I want
Speaker 1: to be on a season with you. I want to
Speaker 1: play the game with you guys like that. The energy
Speaker 1: is just wants to be a jester in the palace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me be a jester. Oh you will laugh from
Speaker 1: if you like to laugh. Just know that all we
Speaker 1: do is laugh. The whole time. We were cracking up.
Speaker 1: I mean there was nights where we would just all
Speaker 1: be in tears, so we'd be in band and it
Speaker 1: would just be we all just pier belly laughs, us
Speaker 1: talking so much, so much shit and just feeling just
Speaker 1: feeling like you're at home on a challenge, which is
Speaker 1: very difficult to get you know, it's like it's hard
Speaker 1: to feel at home on those things. So, um, that
Speaker 1: probably really got you through it. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you can't even see it. Like
Speaker 1: Latian is this person that's like this huge guy that
Speaker 1: you just like immediately check off is like somebody who
Speaker 1: would never cry. I mean, obviously I don't know him,
Speaker 1: but that he shows off, but you see him break down,
Speaker 1: like the moment that he thinks, you know, the palace
Speaker 1: is being under attack. So it's like you could see it.
Speaker 1: You could. It brought so much life. Every every color
Speaker 1: of somebody's emotions came out. Um, you could see it,
Speaker 1: and it was just it was so beautiful. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. I hope there's a I hope there's another
Speaker 1: season Fingers Crossed, and I hope we get to see
Speaker 1: it again. I know that'll be dope. Save the Palace.
Speaker 1: We got to save it and to go into the palace.
Speaker 1: The palace is for the palace. Look, Anissa, have you
Speaker 1: ever have you ever in a game truly felt like
Speaker 1: you were like one of the leaders or at the
Speaker 1: top of the pecking order of any alliance that was
Speaker 1: you're a comedian too, This is crazy. Now Never I've
Speaker 1: always gone off. I know my own strength, and when
Speaker 1: people doubt me, it's time for me to prove them wrong.
Speaker 1: So it was always like an alliance of one because
Speaker 1: I knew that was the only person I could trust,
Speaker 1: even when I felt like I was probably gonna fuck up.
Speaker 1: But no, we've never been at the top of anything.
Speaker 1: I think it scares people when we are. I mean
Speaker 1: a little bit. In Double Agents, I felt like I
Speaker 1: had a little a little bit of power, but it
Speaker 1: just went everywhere because I didn't know what to do
Speaker 1: with it, because that was just like it was such
Speaker 1: an unpredictable, weird energy the whole thing. I was just miserable.
Speaker 1: But no, never really felt really in charge of anything.
Speaker 1: Feared by people in certain ways, sure, but like never.
Speaker 1: I've been weaponized a lot, so I don't I don't
Speaker 1: only see it as that. And you deserve it. Come
Speaker 1: to the King's palace, you deserve it. You deserve it.
Speaker 1: You don't got it, you don't. You don't gotta. You
Speaker 1: don't gotta prove yourself with people. You don't gotta. You
Speaker 1: gotta prove yourself to people like that, Like if they
Speaker 1: don't recognize the light, it's because they can't handle the glare.
Speaker 1: You know, the past folks the palace, we're all equal
Speaker 1: over there. We're all equal over there. There is no
Speaker 1: pecking order. There is no pecking order. You know. If
Speaker 1: you're went to the the palace, we're riding for you. We're
Speaker 1: all gonna sit there, we're all gonna cry together, and
Speaker 1: we're all at each other's top of the vote. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the elimination queen. Of course, you know you're making it
Speaker 1: to the final and whatever wants, so you got it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Story comes to the King's Palace. I'm already there.
Speaker 1: I see. I've seen the love that you've been given
Speaker 1: on the instagramat trying to get trying to get in,
Speaker 1: And I got T shirts for both of y'all too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all some SA T shirts. We're taking this.
Speaker 1: So the palace represents anything in your life that's sports saving,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's whether it is a relationship, whether
Speaker 1: it is your health, whether it is you struggling to
Speaker 1: keep your apartment strong and they coming after you. That
Speaker 1: apartment is your palace. You know what I mean, You
Speaker 1: got to save it by any me. You gotta do
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do, no matter what the odds are.
Speaker 1: And that's what the palace represents. And everybody has a
Speaker 1: different palace inside of them. You find it and you
Speaker 1: protect it and you save it at all means. And
Speaker 1: the more you save it, the more it's going to grow,
Speaker 1: and the more you start to bring other people in
Speaker 1: that with you. And now you got an empire. Yoh,
Speaker 1: I man, and that's Nie and Myah Clark, everybody King,
Speaker 1: Ni and my Clark on the Baby niamas, Oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. In the off season, Ni
Speaker 1: and Mya like, you know, obviously the show's over. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's going to be another one in the future. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, what is it that you do and
Speaker 1: that you work on? Um? So, one of my main
Speaker 1: things right now is I work with a tech company
Speaker 1: that helps to get low income people improphets areas free
Speaker 1: tech schooling and certificates and um and new careers and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I work with recruiting people and getting them through
Speaker 1: this program and a unlike recruiting them, bringing them in
Speaker 1: creating their content. So really trying to do, like what
Speaker 1: I said with helping people with financial freedom and stuff like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a big goal of mine, is helping
Speaker 1: people get financially in a position to where they can
Speaker 1: spend their time doing what they love to do. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's one of the main things that I do
Speaker 1: right now. And then on the side, I'm to be
Speaker 1: you know, creating content on all around wellness, you know,
Speaker 1: self help, appreciation, understanding, you know, spirituality, you know, like
Speaker 1: just pretty much just some of the stuff that some
Speaker 1: of the tools that I've I've learned, just just putting
Speaker 1: them out there and whoever wants to use them can
Speaker 1: use them. Let me know if you have a newsletter,
Speaker 1: because I want to sign up, I want to get updates.
Speaker 1: There's I mean, let us know what to follow because yeah,
Speaker 1: so selfless, thank you yeah for doing that. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: access is a big thing and a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't have it. So Bridge absolutely absolutely there's things I'm
Speaker 1: learning financially, like in my late twenties and early thirties
Speaker 1: that you know, I feel like I should have known
Speaker 1: that eighteen sixteen. You know, it's like I'm learning now
Speaker 1: and I'm like ever ever, and I mean I think
Speaker 1: that's what makes people strong nowadays, is is the people
Speaker 1: who can continue to learn, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the new tools. So if you
Speaker 1: can keep learning, keep doing it. I love it. Welldia
Speaker 1: might not only have you touched us, you touch a
Speaker 1: lot of fans too, and sour from Colorado reach out
Speaker 1: to us, and she wants to know just something about you,
Speaker 1: a little fun fact. What is they hidden talent that
Speaker 1: you have that you wish you could use in the challenge. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a special question. I would like to know as well.
Speaker 1: Bottling parts and throwing it on opponents before elimination. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's your that's that's your see because my my farts
Speaker 1: are there. My farts have more barked and bite. You know,
Speaker 1: they're loud, they're loud, but they like a botanical garden. Garden. Um,
Speaker 1: you know that's a hidden talent. Um. If it was physical,
Speaker 1: I would say probably boxing. Um, I wish we had
Speaker 1: a boxing challenge. I could just go in there mop
Speaker 1: some people up. I love that. And then if it
Speaker 1: was um man, if it was like Poli dicking, maybe
Speaker 1: like um having a guitar or something on the challenge, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would just spend my time on g I
Speaker 1: think that's why I won the goal three is because
Speaker 1: I have my guitar. Had your botanical garden for your guitar.
Speaker 1: I mean that was it, you know, But I would
Speaker 1: seem to them and feed them fruit. Oh yeah, you're winning.
Speaker 1: You're good, you got this, you could have it. It's
Speaker 1: been seriously an honor talking you're an incredible person. Where
Speaker 1: can the people follow you? How can they support you?
Speaker 1: Is there anything you want to promote right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can come to I think the Instagram nowadays is
Speaker 1: the hub, so the Instagram will be there. Um. I
Speaker 1: definitely obviously would like more followers because you know that
Speaker 1: social currency and if I feel cool, when I'll wake
Speaker 1: up and it's like, oh you have to I'm love
Speaker 1: But Instagram you can follow me there. I got to
Speaker 1: save the Palace T shirts coming out. I'm gonna be doing.
Speaker 1: Uh my Dear Near Me podcast is coming back out
Speaker 1: where we help people get new tools to become better
Speaker 1: versions of themselves. And then also, um, Vegan near Me
Speaker 1: as a traveling vegan show that I have in the works,
Speaker 1: so um yeah, so just so I get to be
Speaker 1: I get to be myself nowadays. You know, like this
Speaker 1: is the day of being able to do all of
Speaker 1: that stuff and it's um and it's cool and trinity.
Speaker 1: So it's a Nia Mayah l Clark perfect long as hell.
Speaker 1: It's like that's a long worth it Nia Mayah l Clark.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Instagram, I appreciate everything that you two were doing. Um,
Speaker 1: I love this platform. You were two of the most
Speaker 1: funniest and wittiest people and watching y'all like the stories
Speaker 1: on Instagram stuff, Like sometimes I think, like, how the
Speaker 1: how did they come up with this shit? Like I
Speaker 1: thought that was funny, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I've been thinking I'm funny. But you two, yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: you two definitely too uh queens in your own and um,
Speaker 1: don't let anyone ever tell you anything different. Wait, I
Speaker 1: want to tell you something. I want to tell you
Speaker 1: some many and mine got new condoms so you can't
Speaker 1: make fun of me ever again. Oh them big as
Speaker 1: cereal box condoms. That oh Anissa Anissa Brussem Anissa Brussem
Speaker 1: condoms And they couldn't read the expiration because no, they
Speaker 1: were my purse and they were like they were from
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, it was like it was from my
Speaker 1: high school, from in an old wilet, like an old
Speaker 1: and the lubrication is now like powder. You know, we
Speaker 1: didn't even open it. He's such a liar. He didn't
Speaker 1: even been in. He just looked at the outside. And
Speaker 1: it had been in my purse for a long time.
Speaker 1: But I want to let you know I got some.
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting any on that show anyway. I used
Speaker 1: them as balloons and I made I made the balloon
Speaker 1: animals out of him, and then I went home and
Speaker 1: I bought new ones. So I just want to let
Speaker 1: you know, thank you, good, thank good. I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I could clowning me during rap battles and man's
Speaker 1: I got you. You know, I never bring condoms, don't exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't either. It was in my purse. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't, oh, but it was in my
Speaker 1: first They provide I think that I think somebody may
Speaker 1: need THEE. Yeah, they should be protected. But the point
Speaker 1: of the means that they should they should not be expired.
Speaker 1: So they actually worked. Shut the fuck up. We just couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was so wrinkled. You couldn't find the expiration that's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. It probably wasn't expired. We just couldn't
Speaker 1: see it because it's been in my purse. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take your word forward because you both
Speaker 1: know and the heat at a moment. Ain't no man
Speaker 1: or woman looking at the expiration data for converce. Hold on,
Speaker 1: check this out. No, no, not happening. You know what.
Speaker 1: That's probably I'm gonna need five minutes to find this
Speaker 1: for the serial number. All right, everybody, well, you know
Speaker 1: how it goes. Good to wrap it up, save sex,
Speaker 1: and also good to wrap up this podcast. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the show. N A Maya.
Speaker 1: You're an absolute legend. You are. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We're gonna send you a bunch of love on Instagram.
Speaker 1: If you guys are listening to this, make sure you
Speaker 1: please send me Amaya some love. He's absolutely incredible and
Speaker 1: we want to send him all the love so you
Speaker 1: can make up smiling. Thank you. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: You guys make me feel good. My week is about
Speaker 1: to go good. Thank y'all. I love y'all. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love you too. Thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. What a bright light nostra Nia Maya and
Speaker 1: Nia Maya damas. I'm not saying that right anymore, but hey,
Speaker 1: you're not, but do like nostrolitis. I'm sorry, Adam. Honestly
Speaker 1: that that was pretty disrespectful because not by you on me,
Speaker 1: because he killed that interview. I mean, he was what
Speaker 1: an incredible person to talk to. So everybody make sure
Speaker 1: that you go follow him, send him some love. He
Speaker 1: deserves it and it was awesome having on the show
Speaker 1: and he so where can we follow you and send
Speaker 1: you some love? And he'sa MTV on Instagram. That's the
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