1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: When it comes to your healthcare coverage, you should be 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: the one to make the call. So call Farm Bureau 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Health Plans. They've been protecting Tennesseeans since nineteen forty seven. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Mike Keith and Amy Wells. It is great to see 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: you Amy well Good to see you Mike, and great 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to have Rhet Bryan from Titan's Radio with us as well. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Mister Brian, thank you for joining us once again on 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: the OTP. It's an honorable pleasure looking forward to it. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some fun with this particular OTP as 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: we review John Robinson's first draft, the twenty sixteen draft. Now, 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: let's set this up. John Robinson had been on the 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: job for less than three months when the draft really started, 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and it did not start on April twenty eighth for 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: the Titans. It actually started on April the thirteenth. The 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Titans have the number one pick in the draft. Saint 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Thomas Sports Park is a buzz, Amy Wells because on 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: April thirteenth, after myriad players have come through, who might 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: be the first pick who's on their way into town? 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil, Laramie Tunsil from Ole Miss thought to be 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. There is some question about 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: whether or not John Robinson is enambored with Taylor Luan 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: at that point. There's certainly some speculation because Mike Mularkey 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: was not one hundred percent enambered with Taylor Luan at 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: this point, So we are wondering what happens with Laramie 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: Tunsil on his way in. Absolutely, it was a time 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: where there were a lot of conversations about a lot 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: of different things. You know, Jillen Ramsey was someone that 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: was rumored to be talked about Lamie Tunsil with someone 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: who is rumored to be talked about all of these 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: people who are in consideration for the Tennessee Titans, and 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: then the world explodes just a little bit, and then 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: the world explodes. Rhett. We are cutting promos late that afternoon, Yes, 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: for Titans Radio. I can't remember was it for draft 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: coverage or where we just cutting station promos? I think 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: it was actually some of both. Okay, So we're cutting 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: promos and where Titans Radio is located is at the 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: Cumulus building, the exact address being ten Music Circle ease. Okay. 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: So where we are at St. Thomas Sports Park is 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: at Metro Center, the old Metro Center location, and it's 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: a bit inconvenient at that point due to construction. So 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: we decide to cut the promos at roughly four o'clock 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: in the afternoon because it's helpful to me. It gets 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: me twenty minutes closer to home in Franklin when traffic 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: was much worse than it is right now. So we said, okay, 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: let's do it late in the afternoon. I'm like, thank you, rhet, 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: because that helps me a lot. Being selfish, maybe I 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: don't know. So we're here and my phone rings while 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: we are cutting the promos, and it's Jimmy Stanton, who 50 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: is now a senior Associate athletic director at Oregon. At 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: that time he was our boss Amy with the Titans, 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: in charge of all things communications wise. So I don't 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: answer the phone at that point because I think it 54 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: would be rude to answer the phone during this session 55 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that red has blocked off. He calls again, and I said, okay, 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: he's called me twice. I had better step outside. So 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I walk outside onto the balcony and I'm like, Jimmy, 58 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I see you've called I'm cutting promos. What's going on? 59 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: He says, are you coming back to the office today. Well, 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: the answer to that was no, I was not. I 61 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: was so fired up about the ship had sal because 62 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: at that time, with traffic how it was and all 63 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: of the work on four to forty, it took me 64 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: an hour to get home. So I'm so excited at 65 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the prospect of a thirty minute drive home. I mean, 66 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: it's the small pleasures in life, right. Mike doesn't get 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: excited about much, doesn't get excited about much. But I'm like, no, 68 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back to the office. And Jimmy says 69 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: you need to come back to the office. My first 70 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: thought is I'm getting fired. That's always your first thought, 71 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: but that was my first thought at that point. Because 72 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: we've got a new regime, we got all these things 73 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: going on. Why are they making me come back to 74 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: the office. And I say to you, like, what's going 75 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: on here? He says no, no, no, He says, we've 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: traded the number one pick. We need you to come 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: back to the office because we're going to make an announcement. 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: What do you remember about that? Amy, Oh my gosh, 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: So this time of the year. Typically in a regular world, 80 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: we're in the office pretty much all the time, unless 81 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: you get the rare opportunity to home at four like 82 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Mike Keith. No, no, no, you get the rare opportunity 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: to go to radio and be twenty minutes closer to home. 84 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: And here you've already been in the office. It's probably 85 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: seven o'clock that morning anyway, right right this time of 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the year, you're in the office all the time because 87 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: things can happen at any point in time. You never 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: know when John Robinson's going to take a phone call 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: and something's going to happen. So it's late in the afternoon, 90 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: we're kind of just waiting to hear nothing's going to 91 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: happen for the day. Well, I remember we didn't know 92 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: John Robinson at that time. They had gotten to Marco 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: Murray swat fourth round picks and gotten to Marco. Okay, right, 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: So we spent a lot of time in the office 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: just kind of being there in the event that something happens. 96 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: So I'm in the office and I'm pretty sure I'm 97 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: watching a movie or something like This is how much 98 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: my day had devolved. I had finished everything I needed 99 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: to do. No one had really come in and said 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: we're clear for the day. Nothing's really gonna happen. See 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, which is kind of what I waited for 102 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: every day. And Jimmy comes into my office while I'm 103 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: sitting at my desk watching a movie, and he goes, hey, 104 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: do you have a second sure, come with We We're 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: going to John Robinson's office, which the general manager's office 106 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: is a place that I had been actually inside of 107 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: maybe twice. And John Robinson's a new general manager. And 108 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: so we go in there. Robbie Bourn's in there, I'm 109 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: in there, Ashley Farrell comes with and they shut the door. 110 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: What's about to happen? And John tells us what he's 111 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: just done and then tells us we have to sit 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: on it. Okay, now, so you're jumping ahead just a 113 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: wee bit because I was in the room at that point. 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, I blocked you out completely. Sorry, you 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: are really there, and now you know there were eight 116 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: people in the room, eight people Toad that knew and 117 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: that came, but that came later. See, you're jumping ahead 118 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: to the final meeting when they called us in. So 119 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: we finished the promos. I tell Jimmy we're gonna finish 120 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: the promos. I can't say anything to anybody. No, you 121 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't even say anything to Maybe. I can't say anything. 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: He goes, you can't say anything to anybody. So I 123 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: go back in, cut the promos, go back. They tell 124 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: us we're gonna announce at six thirty. Six thirty comes 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: and goes. They tell us we're gonna announce at seven seven, 126 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: comes and goes. They tell us we're gonna announce at 127 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: seven thirty. Seven thirty comes and goes. Eight o'clock is 128 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: when we all went into the room. I may not 129 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: have been privy to some of that. No, you were privy, Yeah, 130 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you were privy. Maybe memories fleeting, and I think you're 131 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I think you're putting the story together just to weep it. Maybe, 132 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: but that's okay. Yeah. So we finally get called in 133 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock and John says, we have traded the 134 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: number one pick to the Los Angeles Rams, but we're 135 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: not going to announce it because of Kobe Bryant, because sure, 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: and it's like, what you know, We're sitting here thinking 137 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: we really like the general manager. He seems good. Hopefully 138 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: he knows Kobe Bryant plays another sport. Now, we're not 139 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: going to correct him. But the point was, in all seriousness, 140 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: the point was it was Kobe Bryant's last game for 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers at the Staples Center, and so they knew 142 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: all of the media would be there. The Rams were 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: new to LA and they did not want to do 144 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: anything to hack the Lakers off. And so we've got 145 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: to hold this until eight o'clock the next morning. Yep, 146 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: eight people know this. We don't know the general manager. 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: We sort of know the owner. She's been in place 148 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: for just over a year. We know her sort of, 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: but we you know, we're not. I mean, this is 150 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: a this is a new world for us. This has 151 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: got to hold for twelve hours. We're trading the number 152 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: one pick. This is not no offense to Dennis Kelly. 153 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: This ain't the Dennis Kelly trade. This is the number 154 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: one pick, and it's got to hold twelve hours. It's 155 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: not even the DeMarco Murray's closed. So I'm lying in 156 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: bed that night, I don't I don't know that I 157 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: slept a wink because all I'm thinking is if this 158 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: gets out, who are they blaming the radio guy? I 159 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: mean that that's one on a day and age where 160 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: it's instant news everywhere, on every play. You can't turn 161 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: your phone off right because you don't know when they're 162 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna call and say we need you to come back 163 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: right now. So I got out of bed at four thirty, 164 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: tuck a shower, shave, did all that business, and drove 165 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: back in at that point, and we're just sitting at 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: my desk. I was probably at my desk by six fifteen, 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: six thirty that day. Wow, just not moving and it held? 168 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Did it? Really? Did? I remember? I turned on the 169 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: news Probably I didn't sleep either. I turned on ESPN 170 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: or something like that. At five am the next morning. 171 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, no one said anything. 172 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't send emails. I wouldn't send text messages, didn't 173 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: know who was looking at reading number whatever. Right, the 174 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: amount of paranoia when you know that a secret has 175 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: to hold, and a secret of this magnitude. I'm typing 176 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: things out, printing them off, and I'm like, Ashley, look 177 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: at this, make sure this is correct. She's like, really, 178 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: you won't email it to me. I'm absolutely not. No, 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't do anything, but we're not called into 180 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: every secret like that you know, when the Titans signed 181 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: free agents. In most cases we find out just like 182 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: everybody else. There are certain instances and when we were 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: in the building with Football pre COVID, we would learn 184 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: things because they would say, okay, we need you to 185 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: set up to do an interview or whatever. This was 186 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: different because the anticipation was this was going to be announced. 187 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: It sick thirty, which would have been four thirty Pacific time, 188 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: which would have been fine, but because they had everything 189 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: had to go through the league. Because remember what's involved 190 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: in this. The Titans trade the number one pick to 191 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: the Rams for fifteen forty three, forty five, seventy six, 192 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: A one in seventeen, a three in seventeen, and the 193 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Rams get number one overall, number one thirteen overall and 194 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: number one seventy seven overall. I mean, they're removing pieces 195 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: and the league has to give approval. It has to 196 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: be submitted and approved, and you know, with just some 197 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: of the intricacies of that, it takes time because the 198 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: trade has to match from both parties, parties correct, the 199 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: paperwork has to be exactly correct, correct, and so you're 200 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: so you're at that point it comes out at like 201 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: eight ten, I think Schefter reported it, somebody in La 202 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: reported it. Boom, it hits Laramie Tonsil is in the building. 203 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,479 Speaker 1: He is in the building at that point, he sees 204 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: on one of the TVs in the cafeteria that this 205 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: trade has happened. And what does he do. He's gone. 206 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: He leaves yep, walked out the door. Later. Wow, yep, 207 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Just said good night everybody, remember 208 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: you telling me that. Wow, good night everybody. Well, and 209 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: we were all thinking because we knew he was coming 210 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: in that day and we had the conversation Mike came 211 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: in the night before, Yeah, this could be awkward, Like, 212 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: this could be an uncomfortable moment. I think, I'm not 213 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: going to go downstairs. And then sure enough we heard 214 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: that he had left. When he found out, I was like, yeah, yeah, 215 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: was revealed draft night. It might have been. That's why 216 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: because we moved to draft night. The Titans are sitting 217 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: there at number fifteen. Now what we know is John 218 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: Robinson needs another tackle. Suddenly. We have become aware in 219 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: the fifteen days that John Robinson likes title to one, 220 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: so he ain't taken a left tackle, but he needs 221 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: a right tackle. And there's a really good right tackle. 222 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: That's not gonna be there at fifteen, so he's gonna 223 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: have to move up. So John Robinson sort of plays 224 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: it out, lets it, sort of summer calls the Cleveland Browns. 225 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: He deals fifteen to the Browns for number eight for 226 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: seventy six and a second round pick in twenty seventeen. 227 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: So to move up seven spots, he gives up his one, 228 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: the three he got from the Rams, three he got 229 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: from the Rams, and a second round pick in twenty seventeen. 230 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Here's what's ironic about that second round pick. In twenty seventeen, 231 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: it was pick fifty two. Cleveland took quarterback to Sean Kaiser, 232 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: who now plays four the Tennessee Titan. About that, Oh 233 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: the irony? How about that? Wow? Okay, you probably didn't 234 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: know that. So we're at eight. John has sort of 235 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: brought us into the circle of trust a little bit. 236 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: We know that they are not taking Laramie Tunts after 237 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: he skates out of Saint Thomas Sports Park. Well, but 238 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: and that's even we know this, and then all the 239 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: stuff starts coming out with the gas mask, yeah, which 240 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: was crazy. So everybody literally was like thirty minutes before 241 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: the draft when that video dropped. So we're sitting there 242 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium, Amy I was in Chicago, sitting in 243 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: the media room at the draft and people one guy 244 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: I remember, I don't remember who it was, but you 245 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: hear this voice that goes, this can't be real. And 246 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: people kind of start looking around, and sure enough, that 247 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: video of Laramie Tunsil starts popping up everywhere, and it's 248 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: like computer, computer, computer, cell phone. Everyone starts pulling it up. 249 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what am I looking at right now? 250 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: That's Laramie Tunsil with a gas mask on doing things 251 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: you are not supposed to be doing. And that was 252 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: the moment I realized just how things can change on 253 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a dime, and where we are electronically in this age. Yea. 254 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: It shocked me because I'm like, if I'm this guy, 255 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: and I was silly enough to record whatever, and this 256 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: has gotten out, and this is thirty minutes before I'm 257 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be a top pick. How far does Laramie 258 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Tunsil fall? That's now the game well so, and then 259 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: the national speculation is that John Robinson has traded up 260 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: to take Laramie Tunsil. That's what all the national people 261 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: are talking. They're getting all the fans stirred up. We 262 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: know he ain't taken Laramie Tunsilope, and so he takes 263 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin Michigan State, who goes on to make sixty 264 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: two starts for the Titans at right tackle, makes All 265 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Pro in twenty seventeen. He played good, but not great 266 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: his second year. At the end of his second year, 267 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: the playoff game at New England, he tores acl yep 268 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: and it really cost him. Twenty eighteen, he played in 269 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: nine games, but he wasn't right. Went back on ir. 270 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: He came back in twenty nineteen, started all nineteen games. 271 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: By the end of the year he was playing great. 272 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Signed a free agent contract with the Cleveland Browns, the 273 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: team for whom the Titans made the deal to go 274 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: up and pick him. In this strange world, but I 275 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: mean pretty dog gun, good pick and tremendous maneuverability by 276 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: John Robinson in doing that, oh absolutely, And that I 277 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: think is when we realized what we were dealing with 278 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: in John Robinson for a multitude of reasons. But Jack 279 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: Conklin started with a pants problem. He did start with 280 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: a pants problem. Jack Conklin ripped his pants getting off 281 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: of the bus. So they have all of the guys 282 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: that are potential drafting room guy. Yeah, and they take 283 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: them from their hotel to the green room in a 284 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: bus and first they walk the red carpet, you know, 285 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and do all that, and then they go to the 286 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: green room. Jack Conklin got his pants somehow caught on 287 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: the seat belt on the bus, split them and just 288 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: had to ride with it. Like he's a big guy. 289 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: He has to have his pants kind of tailored to 290 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: suit his Bodyeah, my man didn't have backup pants, so 291 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: he just listened. No man has backup pants. You're wearing 292 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: a suit yet, and don't get price. You pay, but 293 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: you don't get a second pair of breeches. I get it, 294 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: especially if they're matching the sport, right, I mean, that's 295 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: that suit is probably costing him two grande. He has 296 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: not and he's not made the money yet. I don't 297 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: think he did anything wrong. He had no other options, 298 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: so he had to maneuver the way that he was 299 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: standing so that his jacket would kind of cover it. 300 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean. And the poor guy walks a red carpet 301 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: on one of the biggest days of his life. He 302 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: gets on stage in front of all of these NFL 303 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: fans with the NFL Commissioner. He's doing about an hour 304 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: and a half of media, different interviews and things like that, 305 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: all with a giant hole in his pants. The poor guy. 306 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: Well see, I can relate to this because the day 307 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel was hired, I broke out a new suit 308 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: to do the sit down interview with him, and my 309 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: zipper ripped on the new suit, a new suit, the 310 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: zip din but it was I had it. But can 311 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: you imagine? So I'm so I take safety pins. I sit, 312 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: I sit and do the first interview with I told 313 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: you because I needed help and I don't have safety pins. 314 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: You got me the safety pins. Here you go. So 315 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, Amy, I'm sitting behind my desk, like Amy, 316 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: I need safety pins now and I can't come to you, 317 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: and I can't. It's like I need you to help me. 318 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: So so I safety pinned the zipper up. And can 319 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: you imagine knowing Vrabel now, what he would have done 320 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: to me if the first time that he had ever 321 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: met me, he had known that I had a completely 322 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: ripped zipper. Your nickname would be zip Zipper. Yes, So 323 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: I have total sympathy for the Jack. He didn't bear 324 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: hug Commissioner Roger Goodell down the red carpet at the 325 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Roosevelt Theater in Chicago because he could have damaged the 326 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: pants further. Yeah, you got to be careful. Once you 327 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: have the initial tear, it's only gonna get worse. You're 328 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: living on borrowed time. But man, he was so excited. 329 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin was living his best life. Hole in his 330 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: pants at all. Jack Conklin did a great job for 331 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: the Titans, and he's one of those guys that, much 332 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: like Corey Davis, as they depart, you don't have a 333 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: bad feeling about them at all because and John W. 334 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Smith the same way. They're getting paid. Right. They did 335 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: their job, They were good citizens, they did interviews with us, 336 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: they did things in the community. They played good football. 337 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, you're never unhappy for those people. You're unhappy 338 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: to lose them because you and you don't pull for 339 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: their team or anything like that, But do you pull 340 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: for them as a human being. Yes, right, you want 341 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: to see Jack Conklin do well. You never want to 342 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: see him get injured anything like that. You know, he's 343 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: a guy that you genuinely care about him being successful. 344 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: Never do I ever want him to win a football game. 345 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: I want him personally to be six And the dividend 346 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: finally comes home to roost recently, as it's the one 347 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: hundredth overall pick in a compensatory selection based on his 348 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: leading a year ago. Yeah, you finally get to wrap 349 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: around gift from Jack Conklin. How ironic the Titans are 350 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna get Yeah, the pick for Jack. Now. So then 351 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: in that draft two three second round picks, yep. The 352 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: second one at number forty three, which was a Rams pick, 353 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: is Austin Johnson, who plays in sixty three games, starts fourteen, 354 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: ends up being a backup defensive tackle for the Titans, 355 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: and it's just recently signed a second contract as a 356 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: backup defensive tackle with the Giants. Good solid NFL player, 357 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: not a starter. The thirty third pick is the one 358 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: everybody remembers. That was the Titans one, and that was 359 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd from Clemson. Now, people were wildly excited about 360 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: this pick at the time because Dodd had been great 361 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: at Clemson. The Titans had reset the board after the 362 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: first round. You could see that that pick made tons 363 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: of sense. The guys, what six to five. Yeah, he's 364 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: a big dude, he's a pass rusher, he's a monster 365 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: playing for a good program. And we kind of know 366 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: what happened with that, but there's part of that story 367 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: that kind of gets lost. And I went back and 368 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: read about it last night. Do you remember that he 369 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: broke his foot in rookie minicamp? Do you remember that? 370 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: But I had forgotten it? And eventually they I ared 371 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: him in his rookie year because he didn't heal, and 372 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: then he played one more year and then he quit football. 373 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: He just didn't want to play anymore. And I wonder, 374 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: because I had forgotten about that injury, did that just 375 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: set him the wrong way? And he never got right well? 376 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: And that happens some times. There are times that your 377 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: body it just never comes back from an injury. I 378 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: didn't remember it being a foot injury, but that kind 379 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: of makes a lot of sense because those are injuries 380 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: that tend to linger on some guys. And maybe you're right, Mike, 381 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: maybe he just never really felt like himself the guy 382 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: he was in college and kind of got behind well. 383 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Let's go back to your 384 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: foreshadowing of this. Clemson had nine players drafted that year. 385 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: This was the first year in twenty fifteen that they 386 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: were getting into the college playoffs. They've been in the 387 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: National Championship game. And as a result of that, Kevin 388 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: Dodd had a breakout season as a starter. He was 389 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: red shirted in twenty eleven. He had three seasons as 390 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: a backup. This was his year to shine and opposite 391 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, who was just traded to the Houston Texans recently, 392 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: is on his third team. You know, Shack Lawson was 393 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: taken ninth overall with thirty three. He's the next guy 394 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: from Clemson taken in terms of a defensive guy. Twelve 395 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: quarterback sacks, he had sixty tackles, twenty three and a 396 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: half for losses. And so here's this monster pass rusher 397 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: who just hit a lightning in a bottle in twenty fifteen, 398 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, let's go. If you don't love 399 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: the game and then you get hurt and it hurts 400 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: to play, then that's gonna make you quit. Yeah, And 401 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't think this guy ever loved the game. And 402 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: then he had this complicating the matter. And that's the 403 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: part of it that you don't know about players, because 404 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: they're not gonna come in a meeting and go, yeah, 405 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: football's okay. But I mean, they're gonna say all the 406 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: things and you're gonna hear he's a good guy, and 407 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, and especially at a program like Clemson, they're 408 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: gonna pump their guys up and which which they should. 409 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what happens because they are promoting 410 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: their players in that way. So that was just an 411 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: interesting thing I remember in reading about Dot again that 412 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: I had forgotten because I'm telling you something, it's revisionist history. 413 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: If anybody says that pick at the time was a mistake. 414 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Titans fans were more fired up about the Kevin Dodd 415 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: pick than they were about the Jack Conklin pick. Absolutely 416 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: they were. And then at the time you wonder about 417 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: him because you know, twenty seventeen, there was the speculation that, 418 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he was discouraged because John Robinson had 419 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: traded up sixteen spots with the Oakland Raiders to take 420 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Harold Landry, who would eventually replace him, that you know, 421 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: maybe he because he didn't report to OTA's in twenty seventeen, 422 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: and then he didn't report on time to camp and 423 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: then two days later was released. Interesting. Yeah, could have 424 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: been great though. I mean, think about the room that 425 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: he was walking into, some of the like consummate pros 426 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: that it just goes to show if you don't want it, 427 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: even a great environment can't get you fixed. Yeah. Now 428 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: here's the funny things. So we talked about Kevin Dodd, 429 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: we talked about Austin Johnson, the third second round pick 430 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: shocked the world Derrick Henry. Now, so we know the story. 431 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Eighty four games, fifty three starts, nearly fifty nine hundred 432 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: yards rushing, fifty three touchdowns, twenty three hundred yard games, 433 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: five two hundred yard games, back to back rushing titles, 434 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of Year. We all get that. But at 435 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: the moment they made the pick, what was the reaction? What? Because, 436 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier in this OTP, they had just 437 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: traded John Robins had just traded for DeMarco Murray. Now, 438 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: let's think about this. We saw DeMarco Murray in twenty 439 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: fourteen at Nissan Stadium when he had a monster year, 440 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: three hundred ninety two carries, eighteen hundred and some odd yards, 441 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: and he rode and rode and rode him until they 442 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: beat the Titans, and they ran out of town with 443 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: the so here he is a little bit removed from that. 444 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: So he is in Philadelphia, he's playing for Chip Kelly. 445 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't really work out for him. It's not what he does. 446 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 1: He has a seven hundred yard rushing season. I think 447 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: he has another three hundred yards in reception. So they 448 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: swapped fourth round picks, and obviously the Eagles get the 449 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: higher of the two picks. And so they had just 450 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: done this in early March, they had roughly had DeMarco 451 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: Murray for fifty days, and then in the second night 452 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: of the draft in that same year, they take the 453 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner and Derreck Henry. And that's why people 454 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: were going, what I remember our reaction well, and the 455 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: other part of it too. For Titans fans, there was 456 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Bishop Sankey shock because they had taken a running back 457 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: in the second round that hadn't worked just a couple 458 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: of years earlier. And so now you're taking your life. 459 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: We don't need a running back. We've got We've got 460 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: so many other things we need. We've won five games 461 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: the last two years. Why are you taking this guy? 462 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: And it's so funny to think about that now, but 463 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I know you listening to the OTP, the OT people, 464 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: many of you were saying right now as you listen, 465 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: I didn't say that, yes you did. Well, it's possible 466 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: you did. It's possible you didn't. But seven of your 467 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: friends did because we heard them and we heard from them, 468 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and it's hard to believe. It's just like, it's hard 469 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: to believe at this moment that the Kevin Dodd pick 470 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: was considered more exciting than the Jack Conklin pick because 471 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: people were like, we took a right tackle. That's your 472 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: big move. You took a right tackle. Yeah, because the 473 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: Titans had just taken Tator to one and had just 474 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: taken Chance Warmack. They had just taken offensive lineman in 475 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: three of them. So all of these things coming back 476 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: and these stories when you review it, it's really kind 477 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: of funny now and it just goes to show you 478 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know, No, you don't know. And that was truly 479 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: a situation of how do you not take this person. 480 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: He's sitting right here on the board. I mean, Derrick 481 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Henry's a Heisman winning running back from Alabama who's had 482 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: remarkable season two thousand yard you know what else too, 483 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest second round picks in the 484 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: history of the NFL. Well, I believe that. I mean, now, 485 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: there have been some great ones. There are nearly forty 486 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers who were taken in the second round 487 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: at different times of the draft since the Common Draft. 488 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: He is one of the best one. I have him 489 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: as one of the thirty best second round picks in 490 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: NFL history in terms of the modern era since nineteen 491 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: sixty seven. And on the day it happened, what we 492 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: were all in disbelief and we're like, wait a minute, 493 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: running back by committee with DeMarco Murray, how's that going 494 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: to work? Well, remember they called DeMarco to let him know. Yes, 495 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: they're like, oh listen, we're and they did. Marco was 496 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: the lead dog to start with because Derrick Henry had 497 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: never passed protected. And to your point, with the research 498 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: you did about the second round picks, he's done all this. 499 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: As we've talked about in a previous OTP about Derek Henry, 500 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: he's done all this in the last two and a 501 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: half years. Yeah, the first two years it was DeMarco Murray. Right, 502 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: So he's done this in this resume. In his first 503 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: five seasons, most have been which have been the last 504 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: two and a half. You know who was really excited 505 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: that day though, and did not ask any questions, Sylvester Crewe. Yeah. 506 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: I think he smiled for the rest of the day. 507 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: He just walked around the office grinning. He was so happy. 508 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: The Alabama thing, the running back. Oh my gosh, he 509 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: was just I've never seen that man so happy, just 510 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: grinning ear to ear for the rest of the day. 511 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: I liked it. But I had no idea that he 512 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: would be anything close to this, did either of you? No? No, 513 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's always a chance, but I mean 514 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't like this is end All Bill. This is 515 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: just it's a matter of time. Because the thing I 516 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't know about him, the same way I didn't know 517 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: about Kevin Dotties. I didn't know how much he loved football, 518 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: not because I questioned it, just because you don't know. Yeah, 519 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: but this dude loves football, loves football. Jack Coughlin loves football, 520 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: and the third round pick loves football. This was one 521 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: we didn't question at number sixty five. Kevin Byard Steele 522 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Steele Steele eighty six games, seventy seven starts, four hundred 523 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: forty eight tackles, eighteen interceptions, three sacks, forced fumble, two 524 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: fumbles recovered, twelve tackles for loss one of eleven, receiving 525 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: one of one, passing for sixty six yards in a touchdown, 526 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: and twenty one special teams tackles. The Pro bowler Kevin byard, 527 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: we had this one, didn't me, Well, you had this one. 528 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll give this to you one Dent Keith called it 529 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. He said, I like this guy. 530 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: He would be a Titan. And we did interviews with 531 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowl in like a hurricane. It 532 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: was windy and rainy and there was no place to 533 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: do it, so we took him outside and Kevin was 534 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: so great. God bless him. We were like, hey, you 535 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know us, you have no reason to talk to us. 536 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Step outside real quick, we're gonna do an interview. The 537 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: trees are like wind is blowing and they're like on 538 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: their sides. But he did it, and man, he was. 539 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: He's been great ever since now. The questions were the 540 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: night he was selected, there were a few questions because 541 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: it's like, what seemed like they jumped a little bit 542 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: to get this guy. But what people don't remember is 543 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: that they didn't have a fourth round pick. They had 544 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: traded that as a part of the Ram's trade, that 545 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: one thirteen overall, so their next selection after sixty five 546 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: would have been in the fifth round, and they didn't 547 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: figure he was gonna be there with the pedigree that 548 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: you just described, even though he didn't get invited to 549 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: the combine, right, which is grave. So with the first 550 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: pick in the third round, the Titans take the mayor 551 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: of Murphysborough, the mayor of Murphy's Borough, and we love him. 552 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's he's a hallmark of this thing. 553 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you think you got back to back picks 554 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: within twenty picks, you got Derreck Henry and Kevin Byard 555 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: not too chebby Shoot, yeah, that's pretty good. Great well, 556 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: But then Rhet's right. You go to the fifth round 557 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: and the Titans got two players in the fifth rounded. 558 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: This has become a hallmark of John Robinson is finding 559 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: dudes in the fifth round who contribute, some start, some play. 560 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: But Taj Sharpe was first fifty games, thirty starts, ninety 561 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: two catches, eight touchdowns in his time. Not a great receiver, 562 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: but he was University of Massachusetts All time leading receiver 563 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: at that time, all time leading receiver. But a guy 564 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: who certainly gave them reps, made some plays, did some 565 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: good things. Was a productive player in the fifth round. Absolutely, 566 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: he was still an asset to the team. Was he 567 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: the big star? No. Was he helpful to the Tennessee Titans. Absolutely, 568 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: And to go back to your point about loving football, 569 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: this guy loves football because he battled injuries early on. 570 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: He had a foot, he had a foot surgery, he 571 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: had a second foot surgery I think, and he had 572 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: an armor Aussie. He had two or three fractures and 573 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: got through all of those, worked his rear end off 574 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: and got back and try to help and contribute. Titans 575 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: had a second fifth round pick at number one, fifty 576 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: seven from Southern Utah, Leshawn Simms, cornerback. Appeared in fifty 577 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: nine games, eleven starts, one hundred three tackles, two interceptions, 578 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: good special teams player, twenty six special teams tackles overall, 579 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: Leshaun Simms. I mean that's another quality fifth round on 580 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: pick because when you consider the productivity as it relates 581 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: to the cost, that is cost above what you what 582 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: you think you're going to get in the fifth round. Absolutely, 583 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: and the ot people need to remember, the later you 584 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: get in the draft, the more you're kind of crapshoot. 585 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Is not the right way because of course people know 586 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: what they're geting developmental, but yes, there are more people 587 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: that you're bringing in not to make a big impact. 588 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: They're an investment and the amount of like actual physical 589 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: money capital that you're investing in these guys, it's great. 590 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Bring him in. One of the least talking Titans in 591 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: the history of the draft. Mouse Mouse, I mean, I've 592 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: interviewed him a couple of times and he was great, 593 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: very soft spoken but man, a man of few words, 594 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: but a long corner who had some moments. Was it 595 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the Chicago game at Chicago it's Soldier Field. Well, the 596 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: big one I remember was Houston where they catch Jadev 597 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: and Clowney taunting him on the sidelines on a microphone 598 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: and it was literally the next play he intercepts a 599 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: pass in the end zone. He had the interception at 600 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City, which was a huge play, but just a 601 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: quality backup player. You know, occasionally you find Tom Brady 602 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: in the sixth round, but most of the time you 603 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: don't like the Titans hook Sebastian Tretola, a guard, a 604 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: guard from Arkansas. In the sixth round. He appeared in 605 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: one game, and and that's pretty much how it works. 606 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: Is that a miss? No, that's a typical sixth round pick. 607 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: They took Aaron Wallace at number two, twenty two, outside linebacker. 608 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: Thirteen games, eleven hits, a sack. I mean, okay, I 609 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of moments where he got 610 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: into games. The last pick is the one that is 611 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: most remembered, that sort of tops off the overall story 612 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: of this draft. It's Kaitlin Reid from Southern Miss defensive back, 613 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: number two fifty three. He appeared in two games for 614 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: the Titans, had a tackle in two special teams tackles. 615 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: But he is better known as mister Irrelevant. And he 616 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: got Amy Wells a trip to California. He did, and 617 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: I will forever be thankful to him for that. If 618 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: you've never experienced the calamity that is irrelevant week now, 619 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: where in California is this Southern California. It kind of 620 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: changes based on what each guy wants to do. Okay, 621 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: So some guys have gone to Disney. Some guys have 622 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: gone and had like big festivals or events. Let me 623 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: throw out for those who don't know, Mister Irrelevant is 624 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: the last pick in the draft and he is celebrated 625 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: at the Mister Irrelevant Festival. And it's a thing. Oh, 626 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: it's a big thing. So Kaylin didn't have any strong 627 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: desires or wishes. He just wanted to have a good 628 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: time in California with his family, so that's kind of 629 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: what they did. He wanted to learn how to surf, 630 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: so they took him for a surfing lesson. But other 631 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: than that, it is just wall to wall activity. Like 632 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: you are in motion the entire time you have any 633 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: you have an itinerary and Mel, who is the person 634 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: who is in charge of this whole event. Mel keeps 635 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: you moving and we're doing spin classes, we're eating all 636 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: the breakfast burritos in California. Somehow, there's like a whole 637 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: event to where there's gifts that are presented, and some 638 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: of them are like very nice gifts, but like the 639 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: people in the community get involved and so they bring 640 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: Kalin these different like tokens of appreciation that he's there. 641 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: So he's getting gift baskets. There is a parade. Yes, 642 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: they're sure the reverse of what happens in Canton. It's 643 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: like the free cursor to all of that. I mean, 644 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: there's a banquet, dinner, there's a lot of gifts. He gets. 645 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: All the people just bring him stuff. It was the 646 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: craziest thing I've Oh no, it's gift bags from businesses 647 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: and it's like a new set of headphones and it's 648 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: a pair of sneakers, and it's this whole new wardrobe 649 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: from whatever player. He got equivalent in gifts, probably more 650 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: than what a signing bonus was as mister Irrell. Oh absolutely, 651 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: Like they had to orchestrate how they were going to 652 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: ship all this stuff back to his house, like it 653 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: was bananas. And it's a week of just insanity. And 654 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: Klin is kind of in the Lashawn Simms camp where 655 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: he's not a big talker. He's more an observer and 656 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: just he's there for the ride. So the best part 657 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: of this whole thing was we're in the midst of 658 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: a tornado of just activity. There's stuff going on all 659 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 1: the time. Kaylin maybe says fifteen words the entire time, 660 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: because you can see his eyes the size of grape fruits. 661 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: For a week, just what is happening? Why are all 662 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: of these people coming at me since re overloading. It 663 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: was too much for everybody, so much fun, such an 664 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: amazing experience. I'm so glad that we covered it. We 665 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: did not do justice in how we covered that story. 666 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: We had a hard time capturing just how bananas it was. 667 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: It was the forty third mystery Irrelevant at that particular point, 668 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: and he spent time on the Titans roster, had a 669 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: broken foot and you know, made the last rounds of 670 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: cuts but had a broken foot and they ended up 671 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: waving him. He spent time with Seattle and I didn't 672 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: realize it, but you know, he had a bad injury 673 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason in twenty nineteen as a Seattle Seahawk 674 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: and it really it ruined his third and fourth vertebrae. 675 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: He was having some serious problem with numbness, and his 676 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: physicians advised him to call it a career, said it 677 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: would be he would be at serious risk if he 678 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: continued to play football. Nice guy, great guy, nice guy. Really. 679 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean when you think about this, though, you think 680 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: about from the time John Robinson got high in January 681 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: to the time you went to mister Irrelevant, there has 682 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: never been a crazier draft period ever. For the Titans, 683 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: between the trades, between who they picked, Jack Conklin splitting 684 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: his pants, what turned out to happen with Kevin Dodd, 685 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: what turned out to happen with Derrick Henry, How a 686 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: local guy, an MTSU guy has become the factor, that 687 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Bayard has become the two fifth round picks, the 688 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: mister irrelevant. And the fact that then that team went 689 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: on to win nine games out of nowhere. And you 690 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: know in a position too that if they take care 691 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville in Week sixteen, that team goes to the playoffs. 692 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean John Robinson, between the trades and transforming the team, 693 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: and how this draft class eventually helped to transform the franchise. 694 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. I'm exhausted just remembering all of that, Like, 695 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: what a colossal amount of work for everyone involved. There 696 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: were so many moving parts for John Robinson, for the team, 697 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: for the coaches, for us covering all of this, Like, 698 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: holy smokes, how do we survive all of that? What 699 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm reminded as we look in the review mirror at 700 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: this stuff is how with the right moves, and John 701 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: Robinson made polenty of them, you can go from bad 702 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: to getting competitive, but it reminds me how hard it 703 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: is to go from being competitive to winning your division 704 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: like the Titans. Just nine and seven is one thing. 705 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: Eleven and five and greater is so much harder in 706 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, Oh it is. I mean there's no doubt 707 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: and just all of the factors. I mean, how many 708 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: foot injuries did we talk about in that list? A lot? Nine? Yeah, 709 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many things that you can't control. 710 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be an amateur GM, but if you 711 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: see what the general manager has to do, oh gosh, 712 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I don't know when the man sleeps. 713 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know when the man sleeps. But how do 714 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: you How are you ever sure of anything right? Because 715 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: you never fully know. You think you know, you get 716 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: every piece of information, you go with the best hypothesis 717 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 1: you can come up with, But you're still dealing with 718 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: young men with human beings, many of them getting freedom 719 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: and money for the first time in their lives and 720 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: taking their first jobs, and as different from one another 721 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: as the DNA and their body. Oh gosh, all walks 722 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: of life. But this group was overall pretty interesting group 723 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: and a very successful group, no doubt speaking, of successful. 724 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau of Health Plans 725 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: when you need someone who understands the xs and o's 726 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: of healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen 727 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: forty seven. Good job Amy Wells, Good job Ret Brian. 728 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: That was fun. A review of the most interesting twenty 729 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: sixteen Titans draft as part of this week's O Tea 730 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: Where the Legends Go. Everybody knows it's our house, fighting 731 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: thought Tennessee, making us to red. Greenness is meant to 732 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: be here. We got sight and butter running through a vase.