WEBVTT - Case #07: Kam

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<v Speaker 1>As this limp was developing and you're in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Never in your thoughts are you thinking I must have

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<v Speaker 1>a disease or disability I didn't know about. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot of struggle and things

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get worse. But you have to be resistant.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be willing to fight, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to push past your means in order to

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<v Speaker 1>live a quote unquote normal life. There's no magic pill

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<v Speaker 1>that you can take. You know, that's terrifying. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of really dark time. It was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do? What is you know, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>You're feeling like your life is over? How terrifying would

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<v Speaker 1>it be to fight an unknown enemy, one you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>recognize and didn't see coming. What if that enemy was

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<v Speaker 1>coming from within a disease even doctors couldn't identify. Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>half of all Americans suffer from some chronic illness, and

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<v Speaker 1>many struggle for an accurate diagnosis. These are their stories. A.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Bright the checko and this is symptomatic. When you

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<v Speaker 1>meet cam Redloss, you immediately notice her pink hare and

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<v Speaker 1>then as you talk to her, you quickly notice that

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<v Speaker 1>she has a fiery and creative energy to match. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually a self taught illustrator and all of my

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<v Speaker 1>drawings are related to moments inspired by my rare debilitating

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<v Speaker 1>condition that it just kind of took on a life

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<v Speaker 1>of its own. Cam has gained a following for her

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally evocative illustrations, which reflect her long, arduous journey to

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<v Speaker 1>find a diagnosis and learn how to live with an

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<v Speaker 1>elusive disease that has altered the course of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that she's really good at, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if she does it purposely, is

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that she's so open and vulnerable about herself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, most people shy away from wanting to be

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<v Speaker 1>too honest or show their insecurities or even faults, and

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<v Speaker 1>Cams like, you know what, you know, I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>avoid people seeing my insecurities a certain extent, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I might as well just be open about it and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it myself and let people into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>That is her husband Jason, who first met Cam when

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<v Speaker 1>they were in design school in Michigan. But Cam's symptomatic

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<v Speaker 1>journey started long before then. So I'm a Korean American

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<v Speaker 1>adoptee and I was abandoned at birth. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>with a cleft palette. I also had a deadly livery

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<v Speaker 1>disease and chicken pox. I had measles and this is

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<v Speaker 1>all in the first four months without a mother or

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<v Speaker 1>parents whatever. Um. I was told to abandoned me right

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<v Speaker 1>at the maternity clinic and I spent four years in

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<v Speaker 1>an orphanage until an American family and Michigan adopted me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have three brothers. I always say they were homemade.

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<v Speaker 1>I was imported. It was a very typical Midwest upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam grew up in a pretty competitive soccer household, where

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<v Speaker 1>her father once played and brothers were eager to follow

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<v Speaker 1>in his cleats. Cam showed impressive talent on the field

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<v Speaker 1>to moving easily to varsity level as a high school junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer is a huge part of my life. I played

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteen years and then when I got divarsity soccer,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just noticing I was running slower. I would

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<v Speaker 1>kick and it was such a disconnect with my mind

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<v Speaker 1>and my body and there would be such a delay

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what is going on here? I am

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<v Speaker 1>on the virsity soccer team and I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was just embarrassing. I'm like, what's going on? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>I am not myself. What did you think was happening

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, because you must have been gas lighting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to a certain degree. Well, I agreed with that

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought, well, it's me. It's easy to be

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<v Speaker 1>very self critical, and it was just another reason to

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<v Speaker 1>be done on myself and it was just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of self loathing. It was a very difficult time because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was my fault. So when I look

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<v Speaker 1>back at that time, I just remember all these issues

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<v Speaker 1>that I had that I didn't know was something, and

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<v Speaker 1>instead I blamed myself. But this wasn't her fault. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't something she could just work through with some extra

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<v Speaker 1>practice session or drills. And little did sixteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>cam No, these were the first symptoms of a disease

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<v Speaker 1>that was about to rapidly change the course of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a year later, I just kept complaining about it.

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<v Speaker 1>My room was done in the basement, and so running

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<v Speaker 1>up and down the stairs is a very normal thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me to do, and then suddenly it became really difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't. I would try to run up the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs and I was like tired by the time I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the top, and I was like, well, that's strange. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>a gate or a limp started developing. I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just weird. Am I so lazy or auto shape

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't even get my ankle to move? So

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<v Speaker 1>I did start telling my parents I think there's something wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going on, And there was still that hesitance of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you just not trying hard enough. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the family doctor and pretty much he said he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks one leg is shorter than the other. So for

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<v Speaker 1>about two years I wore she lift. Nothing was changing,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just getting worse. And I would tell my parents, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not getting better, it's actually worse, and this

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<v Speaker 1>she lift is kind of hurting. Um. The response will

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<v Speaker 1>be it's because you're not wearing it. And as it

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<v Speaker 1>got worse than it became obvious like there's something going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. From delayed reaction time quickly turning into drop

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<v Speaker 1>foot as Cam struggled to understand the events, the mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>deterioration of her mobile city was only just beginning. That

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<v Speaker 1>must have been such a painful period sixteen seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen where you're trying to draw attention to something you

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand, and then you're blamed for the symptoms. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was very difficult, and honestly it's more difficult in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's something that a lot of us could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially do, maybe to our child if our mind isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to ever go there and consider that

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a health thing. But now that I

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<v Speaker 1>know what was wrong, I do feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of sadness for the young teenage cam who kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just had to go through it alone. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in high school and you just feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all my senior friends are playing soccer and I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>leader who didn't make the team. And again, never in

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are you thinking I must have a disease

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<v Speaker 1>or disability I didn't know about. But contrary to the challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken never let what was happening to her physically getting

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<v Speaker 1>the way of her goals, a theme she'll carry through

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<v Speaker 1>her entire journey. She pushed through her first misdiagnosis and

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<v Speaker 1>set her sights on studying industrial design in college, and

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<v Speaker 1>as her symptoms worsened, she pushed even harder for answers.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started seeing specialists because I felt like there's

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<v Speaker 1>something neurology related. And again I know nothing about medical

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<v Speaker 1>but what I found throughout the entire process is, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no one that is going to help me. They

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<v Speaker 1>all just gaslight me or give me pills that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>helping me and making it worse. I didn't anticipate such

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<v Speaker 1>a long journey of trying to figure out what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening to my body, and pretty much every specialist was

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<v Speaker 1>the same. I would go, they would do some tests,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were all about the same area of diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>around my disease, but it wasn't the diagnosis. So one

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<v Speaker 1>was like limon girdle, muscludish defy, one was facio scapular moscutif.

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<v Speaker 1>One was dematomissitis. While Cam was diligently searching for answers

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<v Speaker 1>and also working through a grueling industrial design program, she

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<v Speaker 1>met Jason, who was in the illustration program at the

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<v Speaker 1>same school. I just saw her. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>who's that and she looks super cute. She jokes that

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<v Speaker 1>I stalked her, but when I figured out that she

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<v Speaker 1>was in the industrial design program, I would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make my way over to their every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while kind of check things out, just to see if

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<v Speaker 1>she was around. They instantly became friends, but she made

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<v Speaker 1>it clear they were just friends for now. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember how she opened up to you? How did

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<v Speaker 1>her health struggles come up in conversation? You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>probably talked about it very casually and very lightly. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to just bring it up and be like, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you walking with a cane? She brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up at some point where we're hanging out, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she explained to me a little bit more about the

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<v Speaker 1>story honestly than the prognosis, because she didn't actually know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure what she had at that time. But you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of explained that, yeah, she had been sticking answer

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time now. Using leg braces and a

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<v Speaker 1>cane on a daily basis, Cam was able to get around,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seemed to become more difficult by the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling that pressure without a proper treatment, Cam felt more

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<v Speaker 1>emboldened to move on to the next doctor to try

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<v Speaker 1>a different approach to figuring out what was wrong. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had about six different diagnoses. Two of the diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>I had early on limb girl on muscaro distro feat

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<v Speaker 1>and polymositas. Those seem like just by based on the symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>that those could be it. But obviously after a while

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<v Speaker 1>living in and taking the medication, it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, I don't think those are it. On top

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<v Speaker 1>of the frustration and mental toll it was taking on

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<v Speaker 1>her to constantly feel an answer was always eluding her.

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<v Speaker 1>It was increasingly difficult for Cam to even get herself

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<v Speaker 1>to these appointments on her own, but she was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to find an answer because she held onto the hope

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<v Speaker 1>that if she did, her mobility could be restored. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was an urgency for you to get a diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 1>because did you think that if you got the right

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosis you could reset things, that there would be a cure. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of treatment, and the answer is always better

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<v Speaker 1>than the unknown, even if it's a terrible answer, at

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<v Speaker 1>least as an answer, because then you don't feel crazy

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<v Speaker 1>or you don't feel so alone. So it's really the

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<v Speaker 1>answer that you're looking for. Not ever realizing it could

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<v Speaker 1>be this significant and this life altering, I just thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something, and they'll give me some medicine and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. Desperate to find the potential treatment that could

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<v Speaker 1>slow or even reverse the loss of her mobility. Cam

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<v Speaker 1>hit an emotional wall when a neurologist took eight months

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<v Speaker 1>to give her the results of a biopsy, despite her sir,

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<v Speaker 1>though she sympathizes with her doctors. And so I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to drag my disabled body using a cane and leg

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<v Speaker 1>braces into this hospital center and they would tell me, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have your results yet, and this is eight

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<v Speaker 1>months later, and then I would go back in again

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<v Speaker 1>and they would say we don't have your results. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like, what is going on? And I

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<v Speaker 1>just finally said, you know how difficult it is for

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<v Speaker 1>me to come in here. Why wouldn't you guys tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that you don't have them and make me come

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<v Speaker 1>into an appointment the lead neurologist, he basically said, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting cheery, and he knew my parents are

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<v Speaker 1>going through divorce at the time, and you know, college

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<v Speaker 1>is very difficult, and he basically said, oh, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because your parents are getting a divorce? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you need some medication for that? And I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have sympathy for doctors. I get that they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of non specialists coming and telling them what

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<v Speaker 1>they think is wrong. But there is also something to

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<v Speaker 1>that where the person does know their body the most

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<v Speaker 1>and got the most and involved to try to solve it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam was on an emotional pendulum, swinging from determination to

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<v Speaker 1>loneliness and back again. After five diagnoses that never seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to fit and traveling all over Michigan trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>an answer, Cam had an idea and a glimmer of

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<v Speaker 1>hope to go to the best hospital in the country

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<v Speaker 1>for rare diseases, the Mayo Clinic. It's so weird looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on it, but when you're in it, all these

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<v Speaker 1>things aren't adding up. It only adds up in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with Symptomatic, a Medical Mystery Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Symptomatic, a Medical Mystery Podcast. Cam had

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<v Speaker 1>been a rising soccer star in high school when some

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious illness started targeting her legs, taking away her mobility

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<v Speaker 1>piece by piece while juggling assignments in a grueling design program.

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<v Speaker 1>As a very independent young adult, she went on a

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<v Speaker 1>mission to try to find answers as to what had

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<v Speaker 1>been ailing her. When you're in it, all these things

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<v Speaker 1>aren't adding up. It only adds up in hindsight, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the time, you're just like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to finish college. I know there's some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of disability or something going on here. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>very important for me to finish college, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was very hyper focused on making sure I get my

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<v Speaker 1>degree while I'm trying to figure out my diagnoses. But

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<v Speaker 1>now she had a new possibility for hope of the diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>She was traveling to the Mayo Clinic to see the

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<v Speaker 1>best doctors in the country. So I flew there actually

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<v Speaker 1>by myself. Um, which is really difficult looking back. How

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<v Speaker 1>old are you at this point? I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>old enough. I was sobaly like twenty four, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually bother them, and it doesn't old like um

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<v Speaker 1>more so as an older person just thinking back on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam was at the Mayo Clinic for almost a week,

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<v Speaker 1>going through a gauntlet of tests trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the root of the issue. But she only had to

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<v Speaker 1>wait two weeks to get a phone call that would

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<v Speaker 1>change her life. I was in my parents kitchen on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone the Wins with chords. They said, you have

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<v Speaker 1>Genie myopathy, and I was like, Okay, well, what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do with that? How do I even know I

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<v Speaker 1>still have this? Because I had just gotten five different

0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>incorrect diagnoses. Though Cam had reservations at the time, the

0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.440
<v Speaker 1>diagnosis was correct. She finally had an answer to what

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<v Speaker 1>had been slowly taking her mobility from her since she

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<v Speaker 1>was a teenager. Genny myopathy. It's a hereditary muscle disorder

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<v Speaker 1>that starts when you're born, but the actual symptoms don't

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<v Speaker 1>start until usually your teens or twenties early adulthood. Often

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<v Speaker 1>start with weakness in distal muscles distal meaning towards your

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<v Speaker 1>hands and feet, so often a foot drop where you

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<v Speaker 1>can't lift your feet up at the ankles, and then

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<v Speaker 1>progresses slowly throughout the body and your skeletal muscles in

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<v Speaker 1>your limbs, and over the next ten to twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>patients may lose the ability to walk and may have

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<v Speaker 1>to rely on a wheelchair. They may have trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>breathing in less common cases, but it is slowly progressive.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Dr Minichia Corp, an Assistant professor a neuromuscular

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<v Speaker 1>specialist at UC Irvine. She's also the doctor currently overseeing

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<v Speaker 1>Cam's care. Cam struggled for years to get answers to

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening to her. Is that uncommon with Jenny myopathy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very common to not have a diagnosis for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, especially in the days before, maybe five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>where genetic testing became more readily available and much cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we can diagnose it pretty fast. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, as soon as someone came to a

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<v Speaker 1>ner muscular special lit's clinic, we could do a genetic

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<v Speaker 1>panel and find out within a few weeks. But before that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when she was being worked up in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands, genetic testing wasn't readily available, and so she,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, went through multiple muscle biopsies, and they could

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<v Speaker 1>tell there was obviously some kind of muscular dystrophy going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but to nail down exactly what type was a much

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<v Speaker 1>longer process. Cam was now equipped with the knowledge of

0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.320
<v Speaker 1>what had been attacking her. It now had a name,

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<v Speaker 1>but coming to terms with her options hope of finding

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<v Speaker 1>a cure and gaining back the mobility she had already

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<v Speaker 1>lost was a battle of its own. When I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>the prognosis of this disease, I really don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to think. Because it's telling me, Okay, you're gonna not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to walk, You're going to go into a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair and complete immobility. And it's not like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it, but you look at it and you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to not be able to move in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like maybe your mind does some tricks and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to accept that, but you don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>means until it starts happening. I read it, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen. But as I've gone through

0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>these stages of the disease and progressing and different mile

0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 1>stones in my body, I've realized how little you can

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<v Speaker 1>truly understand textbook jargon of what's going to happen to you.

0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's something that has couraged the way I share,

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<v Speaker 1>where I make it more personal, because you don't realize

0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that when you eat. Even the person that's experiencing it

0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.400
<v Speaker 1>struggling to wrap her head around a prognosis that says

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<v Speaker 1>her muscles will slowly deteriorate until she loses all of

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<v Speaker 1>her motor skills. She goes from feeling alone on her

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<v Speaker 1>journey for a diagnosis into a deeper pit of despair

0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.359
<v Speaker 1>after having one. It was kind of really dark time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that I've recently shared on my Instagram over

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, very lightly. I mentioned that I was serious.

0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Idal it was just like, well what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>What is? You know? What's happening? Um? And there's an

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<v Speaker 1>element of your feeling like your life is over because

0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>there's this association with disabilities that it's not a life

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<v Speaker 1>worth living, which now is a disability advocate for over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, I realized that's a very harmful and incorrect assessment.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you don't know that as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>when I looked at someone disabled, you just view it

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<v Speaker 1>as something like, that's so unfortunate. And so we've been

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with all of these narratives of disability and disabled life,

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of that it's not worth living. While still struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>reconcile what her future will be like with her life's

0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.160
<v Speaker 1>goals and ambitions, Kim goes back to the physician whose

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<v Speaker 1>dispiriting advice gave Cam the push she needed to take

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<v Speaker 1>back the reins. Then I went to my sociatrists and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, oh, I have heard of that. It's extremely rare.

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<v Speaker 1>My suggestion to you is you should quit college, immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>get a less ambitious job, maybe a secretary, and just

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for a life of like basically nothing. So

0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the doctor basically told you you're up against insurmountable odds.

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Your best strategy at this point is just give up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is exactly what he said, which is really shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of internalizing her diagnosis is something that would restrict

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<v Speaker 1>her life, she took it as a reason to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of every single day from that moment on. Cam's

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<v Speaker 1>attitude from that respect has always been a benefit to

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<v Speaker 1>her because Cam has a very resistant, resilient kind of personality,

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 1>meaning if you tell her she can't do something, she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, oh, yeah, I can. And so that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much what happened as she said, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to finish school and I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a career, and largely that's what she did.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like that diagnosis put a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time moment in my life suddenly, and that's probably what

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<v Speaker 1>catapulted or the origin of my philosophy of really living

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot. I came from Cam immediately went on

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<v Speaker 1>a soul searching journey to Korea. It was the first

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>time that she had visited her place of birth, even

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>going back to the orphanage she lived in until she

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.879
<v Speaker 1>was four. The trip restored her, It invigorated her, It

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>reshaped her perspective on her future. I booked ticket, I

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<v Speaker 1>left two weeks later, and I think that really helped

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>change my thinking. It's not that it wasn't still difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just realizing that there was a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>live for. There's a lot of life out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that I want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I subconstiantly made a decision that I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to live my life as fully as I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Before immobility happened, Cam was still slowly losing control of

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<v Speaker 1>her legs when she returned to Michigan from her trip.

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<v Speaker 1>She quickly realized she needed to live somewhere warmer to

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<v Speaker 1>make her lifestyle easier. Michigan is a lot of winters,

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<v Speaker 1>and what would happen is I'd fallen the ice outside

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<v Speaker 1>my door and just be laying there looking up at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the dar guy, And I thought, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of here. I need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>warm estate because I know I'm going to get more disabled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I decided to move to California. Out of the blue,

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Jason called and he said, Oh, I'm in California right now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to come stay with my roommate and

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<v Speaker 1>I while you look for a job, that's perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's how it started. It's kind of funny

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>because I joked that when she came out here, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, you're looking for work, I can

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you can stay with me in my roommates. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was secretly entrapment in the beginning stages and coming into California,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little nervous, like I didn't technically know

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<v Speaker 1>Jason super well. We're friends, but you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go live with them, and I'm having much difficult

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>time getting around and it didn't have a job, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little scary, but it worked out. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a job. I started working at Mattel and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life in California began. After her diagnosis, Cam

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<v Speaker 1>was determined to dictate her in dependence and success. She

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>started traveling more, moved to California to pursue her design career,

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and discovered the world of disability advocacy. Cam learned to

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<v Speaker 1>share her story and awareness the best way she knew

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>how through her design and her art. Sometimes, though, you know,

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>get emotional and cry or something like when I was

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<v Speaker 1>drawing the piece that was signifying my beginnings of going

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<v Speaker 1>into a wheelchair, you know, stuff like that, is that

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you're really working that out, So it is a form

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of therapy for yourself. They say, picture's it worth a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand words, And I think Cam really maximized that ability

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<v Speaker 1>to the fullest extent. But yeah, she still gets recognized

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<v Speaker 1>to this day for her arts, and I still see

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<v Speaker 1>comments on our posts and social media just saying like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what I'm experiencing, what I'm feeling, or I

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>never even thought of the think of it that way.

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Cam uses her art to process and reflect on her journey.

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Her art is beautiful and emotionally evocative, so much so

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that she's gained a significant following community which resonates with

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the new experience of Cam's story, including Dr Corb. One

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of the other ones that caught my eye when I

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>was looking through her gallery this week was one where

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of behind these bars. She's more of like

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<v Speaker 1>the head and she's using puppet strings to manipulate her

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>limbs which are just disembodied, you know, legs and arms

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 1>that are kind of in the foreground of the picture,

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>and it says in another place in the land, far away,

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>she was able to move her limbs just with the

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>pull off a string, and I thought that was really

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>powerful way of looking at it. And it's hard for us,

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>if we're not affected with those symptoms, to understand what

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>it feels like for them on that side. I have

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>seen those comments as well in social media that other

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>people pick up and it's like, Hey, this is possible.

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to withhold this from myself. I can't

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>do this. Cam's openness to share her story with other

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>people through both her art and her warm spirit, has

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.119
<v Speaker 1>led her to become a speaker for different advocacy groups

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>around the world, in particular g n E myopathy patient groups.

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>There's patients in Japan as well. They had heard about

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Kim and so they had invited her over to kind

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of consult her on how to start a patient advocate group.

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So we went over and we talked with them and

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 1>we had a great time, and they showed us around

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what better time than now to uh,

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, do something unique and proposed to her. Buoyed

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>by Jason's unwavering support and the hopes that sharing her

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>story might help others navigating their own struggles, Km's outlets

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>through art and advocacy address the visceral reality of living

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>at the mercy of her condition. Jason and Cam are

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>now working through how to live with the constantly changing

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>nature of g n E myopathy. I'm an artist. I

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>need my hands. So that's kind of been illuming shadow

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that Okay, this is another thing I'm gonna lose. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So the grieving process has become something that you've had

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<v Speaker 1>to look at as almost a marathon. Yes, it feels

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like it never ends, and you get adjusted to one

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>stage and then another one comes up. You're like, Okay,

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I can deal with this level of progression. For me

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>at the stage, it's the same thing I say every year.

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>If it could just stop right here, I'd be I'd

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.120
<v Speaker 1>be fine with it. I don't mind being disabled. I'm

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>very used to it now and I think it's brought

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of perspective an interesting way of living. But

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly like I just wish it would stop right here.

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I wish it would stop taking more, because that's the

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>difficulty is once you adjust to a new level, then

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>another loss happens, so you have to go through the

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>whole process of good. I think when we learned about it,

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like what the full diagnosis was, and you hear the

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 1>words like complete immobility, like you have an idea what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. It's kind of an abstract concept at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>My initial reaction was like, oh, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I felt really bad ad for what Cam

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to go up against. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of negatively associated with it, but my initial reaction

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<v Speaker 1>was because we have been together for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>I was invested. It was like, well, it's terrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that I'll be able to at least be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be here for him. Cam has been on

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<v Speaker 1>a long, arduous journey to understand what was happening to her,

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against misdiagnoses and internal gas lighting while feeling herself

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<v Speaker 1>slowly lose control of her body. Cam's experience has only

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced her fortitude to take advantage of the opportunity she

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<v Speaker 1>has in her life, countering her loss of mobility with

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<v Speaker 1>creativity and purpose. So even though I'm sure she feels

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in her body, She's not letting that stop her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's still active with multiple creative outlets in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>her writing and her art, and you know, speaking out

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<v Speaker 1>for others to be able to find their diagnosis faster,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with less inconvenience. I think that's incredible. The

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<v Speaker 1>word heroic is usually applied to these superhero type characters

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<v Speaker 1>who are invulnerable it can do anything, but like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not heroic if you're vulnerable, right, Like being heroic is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is vulnerable, someone who can be hurts, whether

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<v Speaker 1>physically or emotionally. I remember how difficult it was when

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<v Speaker 1>I was alone going through this, and what I've realized

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<v Speaker 1>through like fifteen years of advocacy is everyone just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to feel seen, they want to feel validated. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>awarding that people can feel a little bit more whole

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<v Speaker 1>or connected just through the aspect of someone else sharing

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<v Speaker 1>their story. And that's all I'm doing, is sharing my story.

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<v Speaker 1>For more information on g n E myopathy, go to

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<v Speaker 1>Cure g n E m dot org or check out

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<v Speaker 1>the first ever g N E myopathy Clinic at U

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<v Speaker 1>c Irvine's Neuromuscular Center, led by one of Dr corbess colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Camrad Lusk, and it took me about

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<v Speaker 1>eight years to find a diagnosis for gn E myopathy.

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<v Speaker 1>On the season finale of Symptomatic, August has been suffering

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<v Speaker 1>since the age of five, with symptoms which include inexplicable

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<v Speaker 1>sores and excruciating pain. You've been in so much pain

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<v Speaker 1>that you're like, Wow, I'm screaming, but it's not helping.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I should stop screaming because it's not helping. What

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<v Speaker 1>can I do? What can I do? There's nothing I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. He goes on a search for diagnosis that,

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<v Speaker 1>even once found, continues to provide daunting medical challenges. Symptomatic

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<v Speaker 1>a Medical Mystery podcast is an original podcast from I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Are shows hosted by me Lauren Bright Pacheco.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive producers are Matt Romano and myself. Our EP of

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<v Speaker 1>post production is James Foster. Our producers are cra Kaiser

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