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Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything

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Speaker 1: and everybody.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 2: what's up.

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Speaker 1: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with

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Speaker 1: Laura Roza. This is your daily dig on all things

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Speaker 1: pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations.

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Speaker 2: That shake the room. Baby. Now, I just got home

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Speaker 2: from court.

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Speaker 1: You know, your girl love to take y'all a court,

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Speaker 1: lot to take y'all a court. I didn't plan on

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Speaker 1: being in court for Diddy again until October third, but

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Speaker 1: today there was actually a hearing about whether Diddy's charges,

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Speaker 1: the two Men Act charges or the two men accounts

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Speaker 1: that he has been convicted with, whether.

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Speaker 2: Those will be acquitted or not.

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Speaker 1: Now, I was told heading into this, and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this a bit on the Breakfast Club this morning,

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Speaker 1: that because Diddy, you know, was coming, was told to

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Speaker 1: come into court. You know, all of course, all of

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Speaker 1: his attorneys are there, his family is there. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was some hope that this would be a day

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Speaker 1: where things would be laid out and things, you know,

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Speaker 1: we would hear possibly that he would be acquitted of

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Speaker 1: some things. Potentially I was told that there was hope

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Speaker 1: on his end that that is what today would be

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Speaker 1: and moving forward, that's what today will equal to. Judge

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Speaker 1: did not make a decision in court today. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with y'all. I was sitting in court

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Speaker 1: today and it was short. We got it started at eleven.

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Speaker 1: It was over around like one, like not too long

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Speaker 1: at the one o'clock PM. And I was sitting in

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Speaker 1: court and I'm looking at Diddy. He's in an inmate jumpsuit.

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Speaker 1: It's ten His hair has been very gray with some black,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's longer now, like you can tell.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't cut it. It's not like shackles or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. But he isn't an inmate jumpsuit.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here.

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Speaker 1: I'm in an overflow room, so I'm watching the main

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Speaker 1: courtroom from a TV monitor, and I'm just like, man,

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Speaker 1: all of these weeks, all of these days, all of

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Speaker 1: the these hours that has been spent for us to

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Speaker 1: get to this moment, I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: really worth it for the government. If I'm being honest

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Speaker 1: with y'all. In the beginning of all of this, you know,

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Speaker 1: because because typically with the Feds when they come for you,

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Speaker 1: they got some things going on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they got some.

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Speaker 1: Things going on, Like the Feds are not just coming

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Speaker 1: for you off of whim, especially not coming by land

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Speaker 1: and by sea. So when I'm there and the prosecution

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Speaker 1: is beginning to lay out their case, that this first week,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you guys will remember I told you

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Speaker 1: I thought Diddy's team, his defense team, his attorneys, did

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Speaker 2: Even from the very first day of court.

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Speaker 1: I thought, even though the prosecution was laying out a case,

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Speaker 1: and you know, they were slowly setting up this narrative,

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Speaker 1: slam dunk, I really thought Diddy's team did a great

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Speaker 1: job of always coming back and defending, always coming back

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Speaker 1: and reminding you of certain things that cast a bit

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Speaker 1: of doubt, especially when it came to that Rico charge.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, by the end of this case, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'd be thinking maybe Diddy's looking at anywhere from six

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Speaker 1: to ten years with sometimes served.

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Speaker 2: Now, I would be surprised if.

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Speaker 1: Diddy is gonna be I would say three years would

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Speaker 1: be a lot for him in this situation. He's already done.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fourteen months. Sometime soon they're asking

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Speaker 1: for time served. And today Ditty's attorney, Shapiro, Diddy's attorney,

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Speaker 1: she stood up at the at the end of everything,

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Speaker 1: at the end of them arguing back and forth for

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Speaker 1: all these hours about things we don't heard them say

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Speaker 1: a thousand and one times, she stood up and she said,

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Speaker 1: this is the biggest embarrassment to the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: She's talking about this whole first of all, the whole case,

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Speaker 1: but just the fact that Diddy is still sitting here

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Speaker 1: on these Men Act prostitution charges.

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, I know what this is about. Baby.

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Speaker 1: They know how to feed the media, don't they, Because

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Speaker 1: that right there, that was a hell of the headline.

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Speaker 1: That was a hell of a mic drop moment. So

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Speaker 1: I want to back you guys up and just take

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Speaker 1: you through what court today was like. So we were there,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a ping pong.

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Speaker 1: So the defense is arguing that basically, what are we

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Speaker 1: even doing here? These are consenting adults, Cassie Jane and

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Speaker 1: and they decided to go and do threesomes and live

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Speaker 1: this voyeurism lifestyle, and because of that, now their client,

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Speaker 1: Diddy is facing time in jail, which is not fair.

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Speaker 1: They also leaned heavily into, you know, bringing up the

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Speaker 1: fact that the Man Act and a lot of the

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Speaker 1: you know, racial undertones. That has been a conversation and

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Speaker 1: that leans back into kind of what Diddy's team's narrative

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Speaker 1: has been this whole time. Their narrative this whole time

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Speaker 1: has been Diddy is a black man with money, with

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Speaker 1: came in and said, listen, we already addressed all of that,

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Speaker 1: so y'all could try that if y'all want to.

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Speaker 2: We've already addressed all of that.

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Speaker 1: Not only did we already address it, but a jury

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Speaker 1: sat here for seven to eight weeks and heard all

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Speaker 1: of this, all of these claims, everything that you guys

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Speaker 1: be here. They convicted him, not us, did he team also,

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Speaker 1: you know, took a lot of time establishing what prostitution

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Speaker 1: is it's not, and what should be considered a john

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Speaker 1: or not because Diddy's host, Diddy.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole team.

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Speaker 1: Their argument is that Diddy didn't receive any financial game

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Speaker 1: from this, so how can this be looked at as

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Speaker 1: anything but him producing? They called him a great producer

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Speaker 1: of amateur porn, and I'm like, not Diddy being a

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Speaker 1: In court they called him a producer amateur porn, and

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Speaker 1: they said, they specifically said this was cooperated because you

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Speaker 1: Jane Doe to Cassie and talk about how well produced

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Speaker 1: these king knights or these Hotel knights were great. Lighting,

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Speaker 1: everything was choreographed because Diddy was telling the girls what

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Speaker 2: There was costume, there.

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Speaker 1: Was they made it a full production, baby, And they said,

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Speaker 2: Ways this can be looked at.

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Speaker 1: He was a great producer of amateur porn and he

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Speaker 1: was a consumer of amateur porn, which you can't he

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Speaker 1: can't be he can't be convicted of these counts under

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Speaker 1: the Man Act because of that that violates his First

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Speaker 1: Amendment rights, which gives him the right to do so.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution said.

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Speaker 1: That's not you know, we're not even going there with

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Speaker 1: y'all because the Man Act and the way that we're

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Speaker 1: angling this does not violate his constitutional rights. So let's see,

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Speaker 1: let's stop there. And then that's when Diddy's team brought

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Speaker 1: back in. You know, the mic drop of this is embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Why are we even here? What is this all about?

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Speaker 1: These people were consenting. There is not proof that Diddy

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Speaker 1: benefited anyway financially. Now, one thing that I thought was interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, in court today was the fact that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the judge has been done a really good

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Speaker 1: job up until this point of being very neutral.

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Speaker 2: I do think today in court you could.

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Speaker 1: Tell that, first of all, I predicted the judge is

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Speaker 1: not going to acquit anything whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two. If Diddy was to get

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Speaker 2: time served and be able to.

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Speaker 1: Get the supervisor released and all the things they've asked for,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 2: But I also would not be surprised if the.

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Speaker 1: Judge says, no, we need to look at what prosecution

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Speaker 1: is asking for on the minimum, like how can we

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Speaker 1: get closer to there? Because I think one of the

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Speaker 1: to the judge today in court, was that number one

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Speaker 1: He wants to make a decision and he wants to

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Speaker 1: make it very sternly on the law. For instance, he

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Speaker 1: acts the prosecution. You know, he's like, listen, y'all submitted

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Speaker 1: all this case law or like previous cases to prove

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Speaker 1: the point that he deserves to go to jail for

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Speaker 1: such and such time based on the man act and

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Speaker 1: you know all the things one of the cases that

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Speaker 1: you guys submitted, and all the cases you guys submitted.

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Speaker 1: I need a more specific reference of where a man

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Speaker 1: is not financially benefiting from these commercial sex.

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Speaker 2: Acts and he is jailed after being convicted.

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Speaker 1: I need a better example because what y'all provided for

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Speaker 1: me there was an exchange of money, and at the time,

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Speaker 1: the prosecution couldn't even So he's like, do y'all have

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Speaker 1: any more case study? The prosecution couldn't even come up

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Speaker 1: they said that they would provide more in their sentencing conversation.

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Speaker 1: So when he did that, I'm like, okay, Like it's

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Speaker 1: very good to know that at this judge's still being fair,

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Speaker 2: I do highly doubt anything will be acquitted.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was an alert about the case because

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Speaker 1: we're still waiting for the judge to make a decision

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Speaker 1: on the acquittal. But he's being very fair. He's being

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Speaker 1: very tough on both sides. I do think he's going

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Speaker 1: a little bit harder on Diddy side, though. I think

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Speaker 1: Diddy's team has not proven.

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Speaker 2: Anything with the acquittal. I think that's number one.

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Speaker 1: I also think when you know, because Diddy's team, they

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Speaker 1: also were making a point that they're trying to define prostitution,

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Speaker 1: and you know, in defining prostitution, you're able to then pinpoint,

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Speaker 1: if you're the prosecution, the specific acts that did he

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Speaker 1: the specific things that did he did that lean into

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Speaker 1: what the definition of prostitution is.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So Diddy's team is on the other side, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to define prostitution from their end of things,

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to lay out everything that proves that

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Speaker 1: there was intent to consent by the women. So they

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Speaker 1: mentioned she had gotten Diddy a TV so that they

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Speaker 1: could watch some of the videos they recorded, these highly produced,

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Speaker 1: choreographed videos right that they're calling amateur porn, and Diddy's

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Speaker 1: team is like, you know, this is this is just

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Speaker 1: like OnlyFans, right, and Diddy shaking his head yes during this,

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Speaker 1: like she's not asking him, she's talking to the judge,

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Speaker 1: but Diddy was visibly shaking his said yes in agreeance, like,

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Speaker 1: and she's making the point that with only fans, when

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Speaker 1: people are watching these acts or whatever they're watching, there

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Speaker 1: there's an intention. So the woman who is recording the

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Speaker 1: intention is to show it, and the people who are

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Speaker 1: watching are consumers who also who.

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Speaker 2: Attend, who intend to consume.

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Speaker 1: And she made the point that Diddy's attorney made the

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Speaker 1: point that that's exact exactly what was happening with Diddy

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Speaker 1: Not because you know, these women are being paid or

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Speaker 2: So the judge says okay.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me ifs if a businessman and his client

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Speaker 1: Right, why does the court? Why does the government have

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Speaker 1: So Diddy seem is saying, look, this was a consensual

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Speaker 2: These are consenting adults.

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Speaker 1: There were drugs given to everyone involved in this, and

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Speaker 1: They specifically say Cassie was getting her face beating. Drugs

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Speaker 2: The decisions were made by the defense's client.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, don't I don't know. I do think. I

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Speaker 1: I do think that the conversation on whether the government

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Speaker 2: What are we like The.

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Speaker 1: Things that you could have said were the overreach, which

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Speaker 1: Those charges are not here anymore. So let's focus on

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Speaker 2: We here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think an a quittal will happen, but we'll

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Speaker 2: I'm lorn l Rosa. This is the latest with Lona Rosa.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, y'all could be anywhere

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Speaker 1: with anybody talking about this, but you choose to.

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Speaker 2: Be right here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much, and I will see

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Speaker 1: you in my next episode.