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Speaker 1: Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters. At
Speaker 1: the start. Now, your hosts Darry Church, Danny mccraig, heck
Speaker 1: Ma Harrison, and Newi Scruggs. Well, it looked like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those days. You're now rocking with
Speaker 1: the best. I'm Heckma Harrison and this is the players Lounge.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you and I'm like, it's just Hick
Speaker 1: and Nate. This heck and Nate. You know, name's Hecking Nate.
Speaker 1: So we got it going on up here. We had
Speaker 1: some situations, guys have some concelations and uh say, guys
Speaker 1: were saying, I'm in that out, but this is hey, man,
Speaker 1: this is a Cowboys the two biggest Cowboy fans in
Speaker 1: the building right here, and so we have Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: and mister Jones better the real players. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: we're sucking this thing all the way out. Yeah. But man, look,
Speaker 1: this is it's an honor to have you all. Un
Speaker 1: If you don't know that, that's just this is big Nate.
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, three times Super Bowl Champion, All Pro, All
Speaker 1: Everything guard for the Dallas Cowboys in the building and Nate, Man,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a couple of days now, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: to let this uh loss to the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: It will simm it in that it will simmer down
Speaker 1: and now you know we we could put it away
Speaker 1: and that's on. It's on to the Minnesota Viking. It is.
Speaker 1: But but Nate, I'm gonna do it like I always
Speaker 1: do it. What am I doing? I' getting ahead of myself,
Speaker 1: you know. I always do a mental check in. I
Speaker 1: check in on my brothers. Man, make sure everybody good man.
Speaker 1: They're cooking with Chrisco. How about your brother? How are
Speaker 1: you feeling it? I'm good man, I mean the way
Speaker 1: you dressed, but bringing that light and that's sunshine on me. Boy,
Speaker 1: I can't do another feel good and just walk by
Speaker 1: you know, good man. I'm gonna tell you why, lady.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But but everything good with you in
Speaker 1: your world? Man, I'm great. I'm serious. Man. I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: I wonder how man heck can do a show by yourself.
Speaker 1: So I want to say thank you to Nick Eatman,
Speaker 1: because I like, you didn't let me heck do this
Speaker 1: and see how we work this one time? Man, we
Speaker 1: got man, you know, come on, now, you know you
Speaker 1: know Nick Eating is a big, big fan too. Now
Speaker 1: Nick Nick is a cowboy fan. But you know that
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. I always settling in with
Speaker 1: Nick and he, you know, on the pessimistic side, he's
Speaker 1: a glass half fool, right, you know kind of guy. So,
Speaker 1: but it's all good, man, It's always gonna be on
Speaker 1: the positive note for me. Man. I'm good. I'm good. Man.
Speaker 1: I got a busy day playing today. And you know,
Speaker 1: anytime you got a busy day playing, you just gotta
Speaker 1: process everything accordingly. Got some tapings. Got a game tonight
Speaker 1: on ESPN Basketball Games I called basketball too. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you multi, I try, you know, God bless me.
Speaker 1: You know, me and Kyle Yeoman's gonna be on a
Speaker 1: call tonight. And my man, k why that is awesome? Man,
Speaker 1: God is good? Yeah man, you know. So so do
Speaker 1: y'all know who called? Who y'all calling for? Because I
Speaker 1: know you'll have to some heavy steady or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, what game is? It's North Texas and and uh,
Speaker 1: Stephen and Foster, Okay, okay, wipe of mine? Huh No, No,
Speaker 1: this is okay. You're gonna call the game. You donna
Speaker 1: call the gassy I'm on, YESPN, I gotta be at bias.
Speaker 1: I can't say one way or another. Okay, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. But getting it to this game, um,
Speaker 1: you know obviously I call you Nate on I got
Speaker 1: you on speed out. Man. Every time I want to
Speaker 1: get it right right, I call you and I say, Nate,
Speaker 1: you know what did I just see? Nate? What just happened? Man?
Speaker 1: And you know what you told me? You said, Hey,
Speaker 1: but it ain't as bad as you thinking it is.
Speaker 1: It ain't as good as you think it is either.
Speaker 1: But after you watch the tape again, going back to
Speaker 1: CD Lamb and some of the some of the things
Speaker 1: that you saw this offense due and I know you
Speaker 1: guys just talked about this, these these mistakes that they
Speaker 1: made and coming up against now a Vikings defense that
Speaker 1: you expect to be ready for a mediocre in league
Speaker 1: as far as the league is opinion of these guys.
Speaker 1: This a B rated receiving corps. Can these guys in
Speaker 1: this game going up against Patrick Peterson and that and
Speaker 1: that vaulted defense Halson Smith on the back end with them,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot going on, man, you know,
Speaker 1: and this is where you see me. Just ride CD
Speaker 1: up until now. One thing, when you're young and uh
Speaker 1: and tough. I believe this right here, you can always
Speaker 1: change your outcome. What I may think of CD, this
Speaker 1: pass game all. It takes a few extra reps mentally
Speaker 1: and physically, and you can correct that. So I think
Speaker 1: now by now CD probably don't figure out WHOA I
Speaker 1: don't did this twice wrong and it's gonna hurt my quarterback.
Speaker 1: Show some love, show some mental toughness, do a little
Speaker 1: extra film work and he and he can do this.
Speaker 1: I believe that with all my heart because I changed
Speaker 1: from a mediocre player. I'm not saying a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame player, but I took it up a few levels,
Speaker 1: and I believe Ceedee Lawn can take it up a
Speaker 1: few levels. So what I may have thought Sunday I
Speaker 1: erased that because because the day is Wednesday, they're back
Speaker 1: at practice. You know, get your film work in, get
Speaker 1: a little extra in the field. You know, Hey, dat,
Speaker 1: let's go over this. What do you let me see
Speaker 1: what you see. So I believe Cede Glam can bring
Speaker 1: it up and Noah Brown Dak throw him the ball,
Speaker 1: he'll catch it for you, you know. And Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: just keep getting better. I don't know, I'm different. I
Speaker 1: don't expect much from Mike when they I wanted him
Speaker 1: to just be coming back now. I really did. I
Speaker 1: thought he would just be coming back now. But I'm
Speaker 1: glad they brought him back because the progress is slow,
Speaker 1: but it's coming. But I need for Noah and CD
Speaker 1: to come on. Yeah, you know, and if we can
Speaker 1: get anything out of Gallup, we get something out of
Speaker 1: it now. Just adding to the balance that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense is shown over the last couple of weeks, I
Speaker 1: mean coming with Dak coming back. Obviously they had to
Speaker 1: have that rely heavily on the running game, but you've
Speaker 1: seen them go to the air a lot more now,
Speaker 1: and especially in this Green Bay game. I believe it's
Speaker 1: forty five forty six times that Dak had to go
Speaker 1: back and throw the ball. You talk about CD taking
Speaker 1: that next step to be I'm assuming that you're saying
Speaker 1: be a number one caliber. No, just be a good receiver, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're even talking number one. You just say it'd be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, I hear Jesse talk about that separation.
Speaker 1: I hear Zeus Isaiah standback talk about what it takes
Speaker 1: to be a number one. Everybody ain't ain't built that way.
Speaker 1: Everybody want born. Mike Irman is born a number one.
Speaker 1: You know, HERM big, HERM megatron. He was born. Some
Speaker 1: people were created. He's gonna have to be one of them. Guys,
Speaker 1: is over time be created to be a number one.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to learn that. It takes a little
Speaker 1: bit more than when you was that projected number one.
Speaker 1: He gonna have to learn and and now it's just willingness.
Speaker 1: Is he willing to learn? You know? So Uh, that's
Speaker 1: just how I feel about it. I mean, the difference
Speaker 1: between a Calvin Johnson and a Michael Irvin and a
Speaker 1: CD Lamb, I mean, the space is pretty big when
Speaker 1: you even think about that. But doesn't CD Lamb have
Speaker 1: that type of talent? The only thing that separates them
Speaker 1: is the mentality. It's just a mentality, you know. And
Speaker 1: that was the difference between and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of the young people, don't, you know, the Great Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ada Lee. You know, he was a man before he
Speaker 1: walked in the ring because he always believed he could
Speaker 1: beat you. When I first met Michael Irvin, Mike Irvin
Speaker 1: like man, I was talking to him about corners that
Speaker 1: was already in the league, like now I'm gonna dog him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he said, just let me figure out what's going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna eat the league up. And that's just
Speaker 1: how some guys are. Now. CD may feel that, but
Speaker 1: he's got to work that. You got to work it now.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't gonna be number one right off the bat. Now,
Speaker 1: Now the repetition, and I hear you always talk about
Speaker 1: the repetition, Yes, that it took for the kind of
Speaker 1: connection that Mike and Troy had, And just going back
Speaker 1: to the miscommunication that Dak talked about between him and
Speaker 1: CD on those interceptions that he had in Chicago and
Speaker 1: now those bleed over to interceptions in Green Bay. If
Speaker 1: Mike and Troy had those same type of miscommunications, and
Speaker 1: you've talked extensively about what the coaches would have done,
Speaker 1: what would have what would be the conversation or what
Speaker 1: would be the practice between those two guys to get
Speaker 1: that right. I know they don't, probably don't do this now.
Speaker 1: But Mike had a certain routes that he was great
Speaker 1: at them, and then a few that he was just
Speaker 1: good at. And they threw these routes over and over
Speaker 1: and over, and they always talked about it. What if
Speaker 1: a guy is here, what are you seeing? What are
Speaker 1: you thinking? And then they'll run it because now you
Speaker 1: don't you're telling me what you're thinking. But now when
Speaker 1: you get in the game. Oh but no, what are
Speaker 1: you thinking with that safety? Now it's nowhere in the world.
Speaker 1: If I'm ceedee lamb, I'm like, you know what if
Speaker 1: this guy right here? What are you thinking? If this
Speaker 1: guy right here, and it may be just a difference
Speaker 1: in the yard, what are you thinking? I better still,
Speaker 1: I'm coming across his face. Even if he back deep,
Speaker 1: I don't care because we can't miss again. It's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be because mister Jones said it, and I
Speaker 1: heard the other guys said, depending on who the guy was,
Speaker 1: It's about faith. It's about belief. It's about releasing that
Speaker 1: ball knowing that you're gonna be there. If you don't
Speaker 1: get it, wan't nobody to get it. So you have
Speaker 1: to have that belief. And that only comes through repetition.
Speaker 1: And and I hate to sound like somebody's teaching and
Speaker 1: asking that stupid question sometimes to the other guys that
Speaker 1: come on CD. If the guy up take the post,
Speaker 1: if the guy back, you know, but CD, in his
Speaker 1: mind need to know, and more important, his quarterback needs
Speaker 1: to know. Do you remember that old Dennis Hopper Nike
Speaker 1: commercial with Mike and Troy had an ESP You remember
Speaker 1: that commercial? Man, it was a great commercial. Man. They
Speaker 1: talking about them being on the same page. Yeah, wave length,
Speaker 1: you know, like they know each other so well. They
Speaker 1: got ESP Mike and Troy. That's the that's the kind
Speaker 1: of Uh, that's the kind of wave length that I
Speaker 1: feel like DAK and CD should Yeah, that they should
Speaker 1: be on And we saw that a lot with Amari Cooper. Uh.
Speaker 1: And now all of this has changed, man, the way
Speaker 1: the conversation has gone from CD being the number one,
Speaker 1: Michael gallibeing you know, the number two, Jalen Tolbert being
Speaker 1: a high draft pick coming in and he should be
Speaker 1: the number three. Now the media is talking about nothing
Speaker 1: but Odell Beckham counsel that everybody has said the right
Speaker 1: thing over there. Yeah, but you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how alpha males are today. Yeah, I know what you
Speaker 1: would be thinking, and I know what I'll be thinking.
Speaker 1: Ain't know. See, I'll be like, you know what, Coach
Speaker 1: y'all can bring him in here, but I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: act right now, did I'm gonna get Give me a
Speaker 1: chance to show me I would be running. Larry Allen
Speaker 1: was better than me. I remember they was trying to
Speaker 1: the famous load left. I remember when they was trying
Speaker 1: to make it more because it was Biggie should be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, Larry allah It was a hall
Speaker 1: of famer. They was trying to run the load right.
Speaker 1: I stood up in the meeting. I said, hold on, coach,
Speaker 1: you know I usually be sitting out here jerking around,
Speaker 1: messing around whatever, joking playing. But what did you just say? Well,
Speaker 1: we just load right right here? No, coach me and
Speaker 1: too he got this. It's called load left when we
Speaker 1: get in the red zone, when we get the short yardage,
Speaker 1: it's load left first. And if it don't work over here,
Speaker 1: I may understand you're going on here, but low left
Speaker 1: is what we do. So for me to get up
Speaker 1: and stand up and say that versus two should be
Speaker 1: sure if I Hall of Famers and hay go men too.
Speaker 1: It just just knock around free agents. Oh man. Two.
Speaker 1: He looked at me like, I know, I'm not joke guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh dog. The only satisfaction I get, because
Speaker 1: if they're gonna talk about the office line, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be big ee what he did to Reggie White, what
Speaker 1: he did the EJ Junior, it's gonna be lad around
Speaker 1: and how he ran down the lineback and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Nate. Okay, what you're eating today, that's a pride thing.
Speaker 1: That's a pride thing now. I mean, that's in those
Speaker 1: and and just so much that's been made about that
Speaker 1: in the media and old and guys that have played
Speaker 1: the game that says, you don't look man, you should
Speaker 1: take pride, more pride or feel that alpha mel that
Speaker 1: you were just talking about. And then you see CD
Speaker 1: stand up and say yeah, and don't bring him in here.
Speaker 1: That's for the media. That's for the media. Media. But
Speaker 1: I'm locker room in the locker room. But but I
Speaker 1: want to there was a time in ninety four when
Speaker 1: y'all had the opportunity to get d on and you
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones on one to five three. The fans said,
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Troy, guys like Emmett, guys like Mike.
Speaker 1: We're saying, yeah, let's let's go into they play wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They do not they do that. They didn't ask that Brown,
Speaker 1: They ain't ask. If they asked Kevin Smith, he said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I can sit on the bench. No, come on,
Speaker 1: because because what's the great Darren Darren? Darren Wilson was
Speaker 1: our slot corner, him and Kenny Gant. So where were
Speaker 1: Pump and Larry gonna go? Come on? This? This is
Speaker 1: if you were telling me that this was Odell's first
Speaker 1: knee injury, I'd be like, yeah, we got him, we
Speaker 1: got it. But I think Odell is thirty. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: this is the second and this to the same knee.
Speaker 1: And I've seen almost every guy, including our own Gallop
Speaker 1: not make it back, not make it back. Gallup been
Speaker 1: playing what now, four games, and he's still ain't there.
Speaker 1: And I'm not, like I said, I'm not holding it
Speaker 1: against him. Well, whatever we get from him, we get
Speaker 1: from him. But you can't bring Oldell in here and
Speaker 1: say whatever we get from him, we get from him.
Speaker 1: I heard coach McCarthy say, last week, that's another that's
Speaker 1: another conversation. But it was so overwhelming that they had
Speaker 1: to deal with it. That's what That's what Olddell's gonna bring.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be so overwhelming even with the two weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, when he get in here, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a two week ramp up. He ain't going to sign
Speaker 1: straight to the field. It's gonna be a two week
Speaker 1: ramp up. Now. Now, now you're dealing with that. Now
Speaker 1: you're dealing with that now As a receiver, you've been
Speaker 1: not making the mistakes, so you're dealing with that. Now.
Speaker 1: Once he get back, you're gonna have some special routes
Speaker 1: for him. You know, this team is young, right and
Speaker 1: every Tyron Smith, I think he's been the greatest left
Speaker 1: tackle beside Big Cat that's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He the great, one of the great left tackles other
Speaker 1: play the game, but starting for the Cowboys. Not no, no,
Speaker 1: after the bar, love you to death, but I want
Speaker 1: the kid in there. I want the kids you yea
Speaker 1: in there. I want to get every young guy every
Speaker 1: opportunity to this year, whether we're in the playoffs or not.
Speaker 1: So next year it would not be a question on
Speaker 1: who we are and what we're trying to accomplish and
Speaker 1: the youth movement. If you've seen the youth movement that
Speaker 1: obviously Smith our left tackle, our rookie left tackle. He
Speaker 1: has come in at times and man, they're talking about
Speaker 1: the win rate on the left side, running the ball
Speaker 1: six yards every time they run into the left. That's
Speaker 1: a testament to that, Yes to everything. I mean, you
Speaker 1: were a big proponent and talking about that young man
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, y'all doing this kid a disservice, will
Speaker 1: move him around. Yeah, but now, Nate, you see them
Speaker 1: leaving him alone out there and starting to pay dividend.
Speaker 1: It is. But also with that being said, and I
Speaker 1: was talking about the balance that this offense has had.
Speaker 1: Now on top of that, you get Ezekiel Elliott back
Speaker 1: into the fold. Now, with having Zeke back in the fold,
Speaker 1: do you think this opens up a lot more for
Speaker 1: this offense or do you think Zeke now comes into
Speaker 1: a situation where he's just a guy. Zeke has for
Speaker 1: the last three years been just the guy who's been
Speaker 1: very special. See Zeke is a pounder. He know where
Speaker 1: he's at seven eight years into his career. I think
Speaker 1: Zeke and bust On for thirty five yards forty five
Speaker 1: Can he told the balls twenty five times again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I believe he can. Can he block where above average?
Speaker 1: Yes he can. Zeke is just the guy who's real special.
Speaker 1: Bring him back in the same role he was. Now
Speaker 1: you got the young Malik Davis. Now you can just
Speaker 1: you ain't got to stop. Yeah. You. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: I say this, and I tell people, y'all, da gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball in certain games. He gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball. But they're going to find
Speaker 1: a way. They incorporate our tight ends. If our receivers
Speaker 1: don't pick it up drastically, and I'm talking about Cede
Speaker 1: Lamb and I'm talking about Noah Brown, they have to
Speaker 1: pick it up. And people said, well, Noah, just Noah.
Speaker 1: You know what if he catch Cooper cups. I got
Speaker 1: a Cooper rush ball. If he can catch Cooper rush ball,
Speaker 1: he can catch jack balls. Yeah, and I know the
Speaker 1: projectory and now all that they said, it's been different.
Speaker 1: But he can catch the ball. He caught it doing
Speaker 1: training camp, So he can catch the ball. We just
Speaker 1: need fun to pick it up. We know what Tony
Speaker 1: Poll can do we know who Zeke kills. What we
Speaker 1: can't do Fellas or we can't do this game. It's
Speaker 1: give them the opportunity to to rush us. We are
Speaker 1: a B minus rush offensive line. If we don't have
Speaker 1: to run to offset us, we're gonna give it up.
Speaker 1: So Nate this, I like what you're saying about pick
Speaker 1: it up, right, I'm gonna talk about we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break. But I got a group that gotta pick
Speaker 1: it up, Okay, And it's on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball, because I definitely want to know. And we've
Speaker 1: gone around the circles about one Michael Parsons and what's
Speaker 1: going on with him. But man, you said something about
Speaker 1: him turning into Clark Kent and I can't get it
Speaker 1: out of my head. Yeah, and I got my glasses
Speaker 1: on the day I showed him pray that he take
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Speaker 1: Back here on the Players Lounge with Nate Newton sitting
Speaker 1: in for everybody. Chris Beam, you're gonna you're gonna join
Speaker 1: us on the show. You got something you want to
Speaker 1: tell us? Chris, No, not right now, buddy. Now, well
Speaker 1: you got to you got the microphone open. I thought
Speaker 1: you was about to say Kauzco and a living on us. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Chris gonna say something. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll back here on the Players Lounge and we're talking
Speaker 1: about somebody need to pick it up. Our defense definitely
Speaker 1: has to pick it up two hundred seven yards on
Speaker 1: the ground. And I think a lot of people are
Speaker 1: talking about that being problematic. But this new NFL, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are even worried about rush defenses. Back
Speaker 1: in the day that was all that it used to be.
Speaker 1: Who is the number one rush defense? Because if you
Speaker 1: were last is a rush defense, you wouldn't winning games.
Speaker 1: But here in the last ten years, a lot of
Speaker 1: cares about the rush defense because you could be the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Rush defense is still win games.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked yesterday, I said, do you even
Speaker 1: know who's the number one rush defense in the NFL?
Speaker 1: And it's the forty Niners. But number ten is the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis coach. And I don't think you know Jeff Saturday
Speaker 1: Blessed is hard to hope he, you know, does a
Speaker 1: good job job he has with the coach right now,
Speaker 1: but I don't see the coach doing anything. I don't
Speaker 1: see them making a run at all. And they have
Speaker 1: a great defense, by the way, but these guys are,
Speaker 1: you know, last in their division working next to last
Speaker 1: in their division. The Cowboys right now, rush defense is
Speaker 1: a problem twenty nine and it seems to be the
Speaker 1: biggest part of these anytime they come away with a loss,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about them not being able to stop the run.
Speaker 1: And this last game was the first time that I
Speaker 1: saw Michael Parsons looked like a dude, just a guy,
Speaker 1: just another guy out there. I've never seen that before, Nate,
Speaker 1: so to me, to me, and you know, and you
Speaker 1: know that bothered me. That bothers me. And we talked
Speaker 1: about him playing edge, and we've also talked about him
Speaker 1: playing linebacker, but he took more snaps this time at linebacker.
Speaker 1: And I saw Superman turned back to Clark Kent and
Speaker 1: I don't like it, Nate, And you gotta tell me
Speaker 1: something here, Nate, because this has gotta get fixed, and
Speaker 1: it's gotta get fixed quick. And you can put him
Speaker 1: back at the edge and they gonna know whey he's at.
Speaker 1: And this is what I tried to head off. He
Speaker 1: was a great run defender, defender, I think his rookie year.
Speaker 1: I mean you could see him come up on guards.
Speaker 1: Boy he had extended them hands and pop them and
Speaker 1: boy he'll run downhill and make some things happen. Well,
Speaker 1: you played linebacker. Yeah, your eyes are like this, You're
Speaker 1: like an owl. Ye ya. Y'all can literally just turn
Speaker 1: your heads all the way around. But as the diva's even,
Speaker 1: your eyes are like this, right, and everything is coming
Speaker 1: from the inside. You ain't were about the way I'm
Speaker 1: blocked from Now everything's coming from the inside, and it's
Speaker 1: a different technique. It's a different style then how to
Speaker 1: read more than one thing. And not only was they
Speaker 1: catching him up in the wave of the trash and
Speaker 1: all of that, a lot of times they made him
Speaker 1: hesitate things he had started working through as a rookie.
Speaker 1: Now you're either gonna start playing him at linebacker and
Speaker 1: don't let him lose all them linebacker instincts. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna put him at Diva's even see? And that's why, men,
Speaker 1: you went back and forth like let him continue to
Speaker 1: be a super weapon and that linebacker. He's a super weapon.
Speaker 1: He's still a hydrogen bomb out there, but you know
Speaker 1: where it's coming from, right, And so, but one thing,
Speaker 1: it did make him a while as a veteran guys like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think think the game now, I can see the
Speaker 1: game now, but I need some other guys to step
Speaker 1: up and help me. And that's why And I think
Speaker 1: that's why the important that you're making about Demon Clark
Speaker 1: is so important about him. It's a learning curve for
Speaker 1: him because everybody has to realize that he's a rookie
Speaker 1: still true, and so the learning curve just like we
Speaker 1: talked about, OBJ is still there with Demon Clark, even
Speaker 1: though he's had more time in the system to take
Speaker 1: those mental rips. Mental rips one thing. Been on the
Speaker 1: field as a whole another subject. When I looked at
Speaker 1: going back to the Green Bay tape, I think the
Speaker 1: one thing that really shocked me was some of the
Speaker 1: not false steps, but it seemed like he was slow
Speaker 1: to get there before. It seemed like dan Quinn only
Speaker 1: had him on the mission. In those a gap blitzes,
Speaker 1: he'd take on the guard, which was a simpler task
Speaker 1: for him. That's right. When I look at him as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher, just keeping it real with your Nate,
Speaker 1: I see a guy that is still very raw as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. He didn't have the same things that
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Strahan had hand placed and being able
Speaker 1: to flip guys, you know, being used. He's just he
Speaker 1: just beating you with his speed, yeah, you know. And
Speaker 1: but the other thing I think that makes up the
Speaker 1: difference for him is when they start to bring those
Speaker 1: guards pulling around at him. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: it's harder for him physically to be in that role
Speaker 1: because he's getting a beat up a lot more when
Speaker 1: they start to run at him. Nate. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what I tell people, man, if Bo Hannah and
Speaker 1: Gallimore and Hankins, we're doing their job, it will be
Speaker 1: a lot easier. Yeah, these guys are not hood on him. Miss.
Speaker 1: We ain't just putting them out there. Oh look at
Speaker 1: the fifty seventh Chevin. Look at the big bulldogs sitting
Speaker 1: on the front. You know, if you're nock the bulletog off,
Speaker 1: we still got we still got the Chevy. We knocked
Speaker 1: these guys off. This Chevy hit the strayer, and it's
Speaker 1: our SuperStar's vs out line back and and Clark. That's
Speaker 1: gonna retard his um growth if our guys don't start
Speaker 1: eating up blocks. Okay, when Jimmy was here, I used
Speaker 1: to hear Coach John said, okay, you're tired. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot the gap, you better make the play. Well.
Speaker 1: Also been shooting the gap that he last four or
Speaker 1: five weeks, And out of five times you may you
Speaker 1: may get one hit for loss. That ain't good enough
Speaker 1: because the other times you missed it was a six
Speaker 1: yard game. So you can't miss. If you're gonna shoot gaps,
Speaker 1: you can't miss. So a team like Green Bay they
Speaker 1: attack you in a way, well, they stretch you out,
Speaker 1: make guys have to take on those blocks. Well, Minnesota
Speaker 1: comes in with a guy like Dalvin Cook that only
Speaker 1: has that same running style, but it's a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot faster, and if you like, like Michael was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't guess we can freelance out there.
Speaker 1: You have to play gap alignment. Sound. Well, here you
Speaker 1: are coming up against two running backs in Alexander Madison,
Speaker 1: who is who is the sledge hammer of the two
Speaker 1: love to get mix it up, get in there and
Speaker 1: be physical with you, and obviously Dalvin Cook a guy
Speaker 1: that can just simply run past you. They see the tape, Nate,
Speaker 1: You see the tape Nate. These same guys that you're
Speaker 1: talking about that are not hood ornaments. What can this
Speaker 1: defense do upfront to mitigate and stop this Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: run Russian game because you know they're gonna try and
Speaker 1: run it down there. Dude, do your job. Now, the
Speaker 1: question everybody's been uh proposing to into all of us.
Speaker 1: Do you have the guys Hankins can Hankins Hankins man
Speaker 1: and I know he's not Hankins of six seven years ago.
Speaker 1: Hankins know how the two gaps. Hankins no how to
Speaker 1: get jam you up and get off and make tackles.
Speaker 1: But he needs somebody else. He need one or two
Speaker 1: other guys doing that same thing. Jamming guys up. You
Speaker 1: least want to be stalemated on the line of scrimmas.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be stalemated two or three yards
Speaker 1: off the ball, but you need to be stalemated on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Now the back has no first read,
Speaker 1: especially at the point of attack. Now he's got to hesitate.
Speaker 1: All you asking from your backs. It's few and far
Speaker 1: between guys that can truly hesitate, stop and start back up.
Speaker 1: We got that guy. We got that guy who can
Speaker 1: go point of attack, first hole, cutback and then he
Speaker 1: can video cutback. I call a video or Matt can
Speaker 1: cut back. Everybody can't do that. Now we faced one
Speaker 1: of them this week that can do that. And that's
Speaker 1: why also with that, Nate, our safeties have to be
Speaker 1: a lot better against the run. I mean a year,
Speaker 1: what a difference a year can make, really, and we've
Speaker 1: gone didn't say this last year, No, we didn't. And
Speaker 1: the reason I think we didn't say this last year
Speaker 1: is because Giron Curse was such a tackling machine. Well
Speaker 1: he let I mean supposed to leading the team. I
Speaker 1: think he let the team in tackles last year. Um,
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the same Geron Curse this year, and
Speaker 1: guys like Donovan Wilson, h We talked about how physical
Speaker 1: he is, but I think Azaah even talked about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's coming up, he's thumping, but he's not wrapping up.
Speaker 1: Let me see something bad what he said. Let me
Speaker 1: tell y'all. So I ain't smart and yeah, I even
Speaker 1: though my name is new and I don't know all
Speaker 1: of it. But when you six foot two hundred forty
Speaker 1: five pounds and you six foot two hundred and five
Speaker 1: pounds and you come up and try to hit somebody
Speaker 1: with your chest and that two hundred forty five pounds
Speaker 1: kind of bent over, Yeah that's a deterrent man. He
Speaker 1: gonna win. Yeah, he gonna win. Like as I said,
Speaker 1: he thumping, it's hard to wrap up. You got to
Speaker 1: get on some knees. And I'm not a big proponent
Speaker 1: of knee tackling because that can injure folks. Absolutely, bro
Speaker 1: They don't took you to the limit, and it's time
Speaker 1: to get some get back, and we didn't get no
Speaker 1: get back. Now, the we talked about the running game,
Speaker 1: and I think you've given everybody the remedy for how
Speaker 1: we get this fixed. Do your job, it's been your
Speaker 1: theme all week due your job from Nate Newton. He's
Speaker 1: writing a book called do your Job. But also in
Speaker 1: the secondary, we saw a rookie flame our guys, I
Speaker 1: mean they he flamed them. And what at opportunity now
Speaker 1: for a Minnesota Vikings team that has who hey, man,
Speaker 1: let's just keep it real. Justin Jefferson is one of
Speaker 1: the best besides the Cheetah in Miami. Justin Jefferson is
Speaker 1: right there. And I think the last time we played him,
Speaker 1: I think he went to for twenty one. I believe
Speaker 1: where the numbers. But things are going to be different
Speaker 1: this time around because there's there's so much susceptibility in
Speaker 1: the run and the balance of our defense. So many
Speaker 1: things have been have changed with our defense. Are you saying,
Speaker 1: Nate that look this is the week, Well we just
Speaker 1: tell DIDs just forget about it. Man, wherever this guy go,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Are you still okay, with dis on
Speaker 1: the on the left, a B on the right, how
Speaker 1: do you how do you when you approach a game
Speaker 1: like this, how do you say, for your for their
Speaker 1: superstar wide receiver, how do you approach it? Or do
Speaker 1: you say, look, just stay true to what we do. See.
Speaker 1: If it was just uh, if it was just Justice,
Speaker 1: I would say that, like, hey, man, get this, dude,
Speaker 1: Get this dude. But you got out of Flora and
Speaker 1: you got Hockey Hawkinson and you've seen him before. So
Speaker 1: this this is gonna be one of them games where
Speaker 1: coach Harrison gonna go and look his guys in the
Speaker 1: face and say, hey, fellas, man up, man up, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have enough movement. Uh. Now Blanton is the young rookie.
Speaker 1: Who are you talking about? Uh? Bland? Yeah, the deal is,
Speaker 1: don't get him matched up on any of these guys.
Speaker 1: That is what I'm more worried about, because a coach
Speaker 1: that's smart enough to scheme you free, like they'll scheme
Speaker 1: him free a few a lot of times. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where we gotta be careful because if we get what's
Speaker 1: called the following him, that means that other guys got
Speaker 1: to play certain type coverages. And if he moves, these
Speaker 1: guys got to be smart enough to adjust, and if
Speaker 1: you don't, somebody were anning wide open free, so you
Speaker 1: might have to just play that thing straight up and
Speaker 1: wherever my man wind up, you got to have a
Speaker 1: coverage over there to protect yourself. That's how I would
Speaker 1: do it. I'd be like, you know what, now, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna follow him around, because that's too much work
Speaker 1: to get everybody to adjust off of that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: play and be who we are, and when we see
Speaker 1: we're gonna play the percentages because coach coaching him is
Speaker 1: good at that. This is where he liked to be,
Speaker 1: this is what they like to throw. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to rally to it. I would just I wouldn't follow
Speaker 1: him around. You wouldn't look green. They did a good
Speaker 1: job against the run bland and setting him up in
Speaker 1: those bunch formations, and I think that's what really threw
Speaker 1: the rookie off. They put that bunch on him and
Speaker 1: ran the guy cross the field and coverage and I looked,
Speaker 1: without knowing the coverage, I think you should have had
Speaker 1: more more help over the top from Hooker wasn't there,
Speaker 1: but they called him the thing years Isaiah was telling me,
Speaker 1: you may want to go zone, and what it means
Speaker 1: by that is who you know. Don't pick a guy
Speaker 1: you're playing an area. You're playing an area. And so
Speaker 1: I have to trust in him that he knewing what
Speaker 1: he's talking about, because as from coming from a quarterback,
Speaker 1: why I received what was most hard for him to
Speaker 1: the fin But I'm telling you like this right here
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, don't miss tackles. That
Speaker 1: is probably was killing the Cowboys the most because we
Speaker 1: had guys for a two yard loss. The next thing
Speaker 1: you know, they're falling for four. That's bad tackling. Hit
Speaker 1: him and where you hit him at that's where it stopped.
Speaker 1: So even if a guy catch the ball, you rallying, uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta got stopped. But he a five yard game,
Speaker 1: but he falls for six and we got a first down.
Speaker 1: So we gotta hit guys and stop him in their tracks.
Speaker 1: The coaches are smart er to scheming up to a
Speaker 1: point where you, if you do your job, you should
Speaker 1: get out of there three, three and out. If you're
Speaker 1: looking for some picks and you're trying to force some picks,
Speaker 1: remember now who you're trying to force the picks on
Speaker 1: h This guy, the quarterback has always been good to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Kirk Cousins has always been good to the
Speaker 1: cow He's your best friend. But he's having a great year.
Speaker 1: He's placed some through an uggl the ball and the
Speaker 1: Buffalo last week, Yes he did. But he's having a
Speaker 1: great year and he and he has won some close ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah he wants some close ones. But you know your book,
Speaker 1: do your job, man, it's coming out and I know
Speaker 1: a guy that needs to read it. And we got
Speaker 1: to talk about him because the media has been on
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Speaker 1: and Barry is out today, Knui is well, Nui is
Speaker 1: out today, and I'm holding it down, man. Then we
Speaker 1: just talk about football, me and you, Nate. You know this, Hey,
Speaker 1: this ain't it. This is just us on the phone, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all. This is just us all the fall
Speaker 1: talking football. But you know you've been hard on my boy, Dak. No,
Speaker 1: I've been hard on d But now hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: my bad man. Let me let me take that back.
Speaker 1: You will definitely give not a scathing criticism, but you
Speaker 1: will give a criticism to Dak and say, look, this
Speaker 1: is where this quarterback has to be better. This week
Speaker 1: in the media all around has been talking about Dak
Speaker 1: being the weak Lincoln holding this Dallas Cowboys offense back
Speaker 1: with his play. But Dak is the same quarterback. They
Speaker 1: went to the fourth quarter with a four, fourteen point lead. Nate,
Speaker 1: is that criticism fair? Do you think that's just more
Speaker 1: of the Cowboy haters trying to surround us after every loss.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell us right here, Uh, I think Dak
Speaker 1: played well enough. Now, one of those interceptions from what
Speaker 1: the people was telling me, who know the game, Uh,
Speaker 1: he could have held back on. And the other one
Speaker 1: is just about believing in the guy doing the right thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: Dak is playing good. Dak is playing good, and he's
Speaker 1: not the reason we lost that game. He's not the
Speaker 1: reason we lost that game because there's so many factors
Speaker 1: in the playing quarterback. There's so many moving parts that
Speaker 1: you have to deal with offensively, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't like a lot of the you know, up
Speaker 1: tempo stuff because that took away you know that that
Speaker 1: didn't add time on two clock. That's shortened clock for
Speaker 1: for us our defense and length and the clock for
Speaker 1: for their offense. So I didn't like that part of it.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I just noticed right here, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some games where you gotta throw the ball
Speaker 1: and and we's it's a stat out there, hard stat
Speaker 1: forty times out. Chances ain't as good, but those are
Speaker 1: the chances you take, and you're gonna take them with Dak.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take on with somebody else? We had
Speaker 1: a bad game as as a football team and it
Speaker 1: didn't add up. And it's gonna always fall on the
Speaker 1: quarterback when they win, it's gonna always fall on the
Speaker 1: quarterback they lost, and it's gonna fall on Dac. Now
Speaker 1: this is they're unfair. Yeah, this is a game. Obviously
Speaker 1: you expect for Dak to come in and know that
Speaker 1: he has to be better, just secondary Harrison, Smith and
Speaker 1: Peterson and this this is a team that that has
Speaker 1: some veteran savvy guys on the back half of their defense,
Speaker 1: and you need for Dac to be the difference. Yes,
Speaker 1: and in a game. And with you, Nate being a
Speaker 1: guy that has played on a team that has some
Speaker 1: really high powerwer defenses, how do you protect this defense?
Speaker 1: Is it just what you were talking about with the
Speaker 1: not going up tempo? But it seemed like for a
Speaker 1: while that when they went up tempo they caught Green
Speaker 1: Bay off guard with that one. You know, and I'll
Speaker 1: over due to the town possession sometime, but you got
Speaker 1: to realize when your defense has been on the field
Speaker 1: five or more minutes, and you may want to run
Speaker 1: some plays that you can be successful at just to
Speaker 1: get them a blow, But when you got your defense
Speaker 1: that at the end of regulation and played thirty two
Speaker 1: minutes and they keep happening game out of the game,
Speaker 1: thirty two minutes, thirty one minutes, thirty three minutes. That
Speaker 1: takes its toll, you know, and then your defense is
Speaker 1: get to the point where they can't get off the
Speaker 1: field because they're always facing third and two. So you know,
Speaker 1: they don't know whether to stack the box. They don't
Speaker 1: know whether to lighten up the box because you got
Speaker 1: you gotta run pass option. There's that's obvious. So that's
Speaker 1: why I just keep saying you certain points in the game,
Speaker 1: you got to realize, Okay, we're up about fourteen, Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard is running well, you ain't got no limits on it.
Speaker 1: You got Malik Davids when he comes in b he
Speaker 1: looks fresh. So it's just up to you and what
Speaker 1: you and the coordinator because I just can't put it
Speaker 1: all on Kellum no more. You you have Dat's a veteran,
Speaker 1: so he has some men put in this, I think too,
Speaker 1: along with the head coach. Has he And I heard
Speaker 1: you earlier you were talking about Ceedee Lamb and him,
Speaker 1: you know, up in his game, not to the number
Speaker 1: one steps, but just being better, but also talking about
Speaker 1: these tight ends can can can that be the missing
Speaker 1: link to this offense? That can drive the success of
Speaker 1: your offense. If he can get the ball into the
Speaker 1: hands of hendershot, they have to. Man, you got three
Speaker 1: capable guys that can catch. They They maybe not faster
Speaker 1: or quicker than the safety, but they're bigger, they're stronger,
Speaker 1: they can body up. So uh, you know they can
Speaker 1: outrun linebackers. I know they can get them, most of
Speaker 1: the linebackers. So I use them. You use them and
Speaker 1: and when not on no screen. I mean I just
Speaker 1: told you they ain't quick. You don't like to take
Speaker 1: the tight end screen out of the playbood, don't use
Speaker 1: the tight end screen five yards is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Down that field and him the shot can get deep.
Speaker 1: Understand he can get deep. So but that comes with
Speaker 1: better protection. But we all run play action, pass, office,
Speaker 1: line and quarterback. What's the release date for your book?
Speaker 1: Do your job, Nate Relationship. It's gonna be a rerelease
Speaker 1: because you know, I gotta get rights from Belichick. Do
Speaker 1: your Job. It's already out, man, Nate. I appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming to head, holding it down, women, running,
Speaker 1: dropping them, dropping jews on them again. Man, show wish
Speaker 1: I could get with Barry got No, I'm a forty
Speaker 1: two the only one I'm gonna reckon that. What you mean, man?
Speaker 1: You know what you mean? Three times? I say it
Speaker 1: right every time? What you mean? Man? If you know
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna calling them bouy them forty two, you're
Speaker 1: gonna call anybody that's it man being sixty one. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like, come on, Nate, turn ducking Nate. You dress
Speaker 1: y'all up today. I appreciate your Nate, Man, I did
Speaker 1: I did for y'allknew I was gonna be on with
Speaker 1: you man, short pants and long sucks. Thank god you did. Man.
Speaker 1: It's been the players that I thank y'all for rocket
Speaker 1: with us. We'll be back tomorrow two o'clock with Newish scrubs,
Speaker 1: buried Church and uh my man, ud is out of
Speaker 1: assignment right now, but uh Nate Newton to be on
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Go hanging, always hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: But man, thank you again, man, and thank y'all for
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