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Speaker 1: you like this again and they hearing me, this only

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Speaker 1: one way to go, right, Listen, you didn't ever tell

427
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Speaker 1: me because usually I'm gonna come like this first, and

428
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I try to be sweet though, like because

429
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: you already know. But anyway, whatever, I okay. So I

430
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: have to ask you this. This is so funny. I

431
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: um everybody smart, black and funny, smart, funny and black genius.

432
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Speaker 1: I was on it and didn't win the other day.

433
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: He told me, and you you're doing and you're taking

434
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Speaker 1: it on the road, and you've done this before, You've

435
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Speaker 1: been on the road before. What is Yeah, so what's

436
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: different this time than before prior to COVID. I don't

437
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: think there's anything necessarily different. I think we've added some

438
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: elements to the show. Um. We do like a whole

439
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: happy Birthday segment to the show. We are constantly adding

440
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: different songs to the show based on the games. We

441
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: are in Brooklyn on the twenty ninth, um So there's,

442
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, there's an element of the show

443
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: on in the Brooklyn show where we're adding just having

444
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: folks come dress as their favorite character, black character or icon,

445
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: and you don't have to come dress as that. Um.

446
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: But we also we I've announced one of our black

447
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: spurts or that's our word for contestant, which is gonna

448
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Speaker 1: be method Man. Oh lord, I'm coming just to see

449
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: meth Man says, listen, when anyone who knows me knows,

450
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: I'm a Woo Tang fanatic, like kill it bees, I'm

451
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: the swam listening like a big big yeah. So does

452
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: anybody get to talk to him beside you? Because I

453
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: does anybody get to do in this place? And being

454
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: his presence beside you, he is too fine. It's really

455
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: it's really it's iconic level find this like you's know

456
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man, he's nice, He's, oh my gosh,

457
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the nicest, like just and consistent. Meth has been these

458
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: exact same person since I met him in like two

459
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Speaker 1: thousand and six, the same person and always just honestly,

460
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Speaker 1: I can say that for like the members of the

461
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Speaker 1: Woo that I know, like Ray Kwon, Ghosts, the Rizza,

462
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: like they're always very just like kind, respectful, like they've

463
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: never come at me sideways. A little story. So one

464
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: time when I had met the Rizza, he invited me

465
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Speaker 1: to come to an Oscar party and when I got

466
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Speaker 1: to the address, it was a hotel. Oh, And I

467
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: texted him and I was like, I'm not sure who

468
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: you think I am. I know what you think I'm about,

469
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna come to your hotel room to

470
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Speaker 1: watch the Oscars. And he called me. He's like, uh,

471
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: it's a penhouse. There's several people here on this one.

472
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: See the I get upstairs, it's like Erica Alexander, like

473
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: the whole Castle, the whole Tech Show. I'm like, hey, guys,

474
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Yeah, I don't know what you think

475
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: this is, but I don't know why he learned that day.

476
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: He's like, come on in, people here, no one here,

477
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: No one's here to harm you. I don't have a

478
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: there's literally a buffet set up. Like I hate that.

479
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I hate that. Okay, fine, I'm j Jack. But you

480
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: know what, Listen, I come from hip hop, like you

481
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: gotta let people know. You gotta let people know because

482
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: they will try it. I know we're not going anywhere.

483
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I really do need your help. You can fast forward

484
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: through these commercials and then just come right back, okay,

485
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: because I need job to help me out. We got

486
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: more with the Manda Seals on the other side of

487
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Speaker 1: the break. Every champion and carry champions to be a champion,

488
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Speaker 1: a champion and carry champion and carry champion, A champion

489
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Speaker 1: and carry Champion and carry champion sports and entertainment, and

490
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Speaker 1: every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a

491
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Speaker 1: champion and carry champion. They go, Hey, everybody, welcome back

492
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: to Naked a Man to seeos. Let's do music. Because

493
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I have said and you and I I'm not about

494
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: to make this all about people we know, but Kendrick

495
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Carter told me you are arguably the most talented person.

496
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: She has ever met, which to me explains your need

497
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: to do so many different things at once because it

498
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: just comes naturally. This is what Kinder said. She was like, sings, Dan,

499
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: how is Kendra. She's doing good. She's doing really good

500
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I'm And she talks about the time

501
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: y'all was friends walking to New York City streets hanging out.

502
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: She comes to you perform. Wait, can I just give

503
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: a big up to her? Real quick? Yes, I just

504
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: give a big up. Yeah when I'm. When I moved

505
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, I knew that I wanted my life

506
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Speaker 1: to be different. So that was one of the reasons

507
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: why I moved to Los Angeles. I was like, if

508
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: you want drastic change, you gotta make drastic moves. So

509
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Speaker 1: I moved across the nation from New York to Los Angeles.

510
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: And one of the things I wanted to change was

511
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Speaker 1: that I wanted to be a part of work that

512
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: had more value to it, because a lot of the

513
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: work that I was doing was a lot of pop

514
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: culture stuff that was kind of just like flash in

515
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Speaker 1: the pan, like you know, you say a little joke,

516
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: but it didn't have like actual like gravitas to it.

517
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: And I knew that I was gonna have to do

518
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: scripted television like that just felt like. I was like,

519
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: that's next in my path. But no one at my

520
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: agency would would would send me out on auditions. They

521
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: would not send me out on scripted auditions. They were like, no,

522
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: you're a digital talent. You're a digital talent. And so

523
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: I had to then go to my resources and I

524
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: hit up Kendrick Carter and I was like, is there

525
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: any way you can get me a meeting with the

526
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: scripted department at NBC And she was like, say less, done,

527
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: set it up. I went and met with them. My

528
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: agent hits me like, hey, did you just see a

529
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: meeting at NBC? Yes? I did, Yes, I did. Sure

530
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: did that. Y'all would not set me up with and

531
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: started that. Her allowing that like her making that happen

532
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: forced my agency to then send me out on auditions,

533
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: which is how I ended up auditioning for Insecure. The

534
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: wow wow, wow, wow wow wow. Does she know that story?

535
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't think she does. Oh no, I gotta put

536
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Speaker 1: you guys on tax after this. Okay, that's powerful and

537
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: she but she's never This is one thing we both

538
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: love about her as someone who can recognize talent. She's

539
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: never I've never seen her off. She just knows. She's like, no,

540
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: a man, I can do it all. And so with

541
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Speaker 1: that being said, I don't know if a lot of

542
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: people knew you were in Flower Try you were poor

543
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: with and I don't know, I don't know if they

544
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Speaker 1: know that you replaced one of the members and went

545
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: on tour. You have such a not even considering that

546
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: you have a master's from Columbia, which is so hard

547
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to get into period. Right, you had this true intellect,

548
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: then you have created this this this brand for yourself

549
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: and this showcase that you're taking on the road. Then

550
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: you're an actress. Then you're like, you can do it all.

551
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Does that get cumbersome for you or confuse the vision? Um?

552
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: It's cumbersome because I what I'm not really good at

553
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: is marketing and like business strategy. Like I'm not a dummy,

554
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: so I can like create opportunities for myself to keep

555
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: things going. But I am not enterprising um in the

556
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: way that I see some of my peers be. UM.

557
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure yet if that's a good or

558
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet if that's held me back or

559
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: if that's kept me sane. I Um, that's a fair

560
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: question because ultimately people are like, why aren't you you

561
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, and yeah, I think there's

562
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: something that happens when you mix creativity with commerce, right,

563
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: like with capitalism, Like there's a piece of you that

564
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: you lose in that change. You said it earlier. You

565
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: are free thinkers. You don't have to worry about being

566
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: tied to a or a brand or what. You can

567
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: say what comes to your mind. So that's why it's authentic.

568
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: So like Bebbie Smith is always like a voice who

569
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: will just like poke her head in to be like,

570
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: keep going. Your path is different, keep going because because

571
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you just think like am I doing what I'm

572
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing? Should I have a certain level

573
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: of you know, at one point it felt like should

574
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I have a certain level of fame? I don't feel

575
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: that way anymore because I really fame is like this

576
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: weird thing that I'm not really interested in. But what

577
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I am interested in is options and being able to

578
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: have like the options to create without so many barriers

579
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: and so much convincing. Right, But you come to understand

580
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: that like the people who kind of fand away the

581
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: people who navigate that very deathly, they are they have

582
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: a different relationship to their art. So that's why so

583
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: many people have like a business person who's like their

584
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: partner or that works alongside them, who thinks that way,

585
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: because I'm the one who's like, okay, so what we

586
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: can do is all right, yes, okay, I want to

587
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: do a game show, and then it's got to be

588
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: like black history, but then it's also a sing along.

589
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: And then it's also you know, so like I got

590
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: you on that, I got you on that. But then

591
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: there's also the people who are like, well, why don't

592
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: you know sponsors yet? Yeah? And I'm like, oh, because

593
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to do that same but

594
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: and I do, and I do understand the frustration of

595
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: someone being like you should already have that. You're just like,

596
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't. I understand

597
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but it doesn't. It's a different capacity.

598
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: How many times a day do you get why don't

599
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: you have your own show? Yo? Girl? I'm all like,

600
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't know whoa and I started it with you

601
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: and normally now I receive it as that's a compliment.

602
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: You want mine it ain't hear me. You want to

603
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: hear chart to be like, but no before you're like, well,

604
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: because you ain't got your own show, you know what

605
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean? Like are they giving out shows the black girls,

606
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: little black girls around the world. They should? They really should?

607
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: I really You had said earlier that you feel like

608
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: I would I should have like my own daily show,

609
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like a lot of people are like,

610
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: a man, I should do the Daily Show. I would

611
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: not do the Daily Show for a number of reasons, right,

612
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: But one of them is like I would not want

613
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to live in New York again for that, just like indefinitely.

614
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: But the other reason is because, like you said something

615
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: where you were like, you know, you like kind of

616
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: like wax poetic and philosophize on topics beyond like what

617
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: people are talking about. And it's like that that's the

618
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: show I would want, Like I don't want the show

619
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: where I'm telling you the news, Like I want the

620
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: show where you already know the news and I'm providing

621
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: and ideating and considering other things about that, which is

622
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: what I thought I was gonna get to do. What

623
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: the real yeah, you know, like just because it's like

624
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: when you have these topics. There's so much you can

625
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: say about like the fact, it's like these are the facts.

626
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: But then it's like how do you yes, yes, you

627
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, how do you expound upon that?

628
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: How do you like make that relatable? How do you

629
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: apply that to like bigger concepts of our socialization, of patriarchy, etcetera, etcetera.

630
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Like that's the stuff I'm interested in, Yeah, the teaching

631
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: of it all, because you are a professor. So yes, yeah,

632
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: that's also something Kindred used to call you. She said

633
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: she needs to go on and go ahead and just

634
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: be a professor. I don't know what she's doing. Thought

635
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: about it. I thought about it. I really liked when

636
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Speaker 1: I was I was trying to move to When I

637
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Speaker 1: was trying to move to l A, I was trying

638
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Speaker 1: to figure out how it was going to do it

639
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Speaker 1: because it seemed like such a BMS task, like the

640
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Speaker 1: money and then where are you gonna live? And then

641
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Speaker 1: the job. And I had become friends with um my sister,

642
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Tommy Crump, who's an exec and it's to nice. So

643
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Tommy is just that is my sister from another mister

644
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: and Tommy I just remember Tommy sitting a glass of

645
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: wine and being like, hmm, what did you get like

646
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: a PhD fellowship? I'm like that could pay for it.

647
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: And I was like the gay you sound just like

648
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: her too, though, right, you know, Tommy is Tommy is

649
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: part of my Uh, Tommy is a part of like

650
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: the character shaping that I did for Tiffany. Oh are

651
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Yes? I did. She never told me

652
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: that she doesn't tell people because she's like, I don't

653
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: like it. Tiffany du Bois of Insecure is based on

654
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: my friend Tommy Crump, who is just as like Studio

655
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: corporate as she as she is Philly to the bone. Okay,

656
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: so she's both of those things. And then the other

657
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: part of my character shaping for Tiffany Dubui Insecure was

658
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: Shanta Moore in the Shante's Got a Man video that yes,

659
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: as I'm screaming yes, yes that yeah, and like Shanta

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00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Moore like started following me, and I was just like,

661
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, like the world are colliding. Wait a second.

662
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: She took a super wine and say why don't you

663
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: just get a PhD fellowship? That's exactly That's exactly what

664
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: she would say, Yeah, casual, why don't you just do that.

665
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: That's like when my mom, like in like two thousand

666
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: and four, just like turned to me casually on the

667
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: couch and was like, you know who, you should do

668
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: a song with Lenny Gravitz. Okay should I? Okay, let

669
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: me get him a ring. I think that's where the

670
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: defense that you would have around like people saying why

671
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: don't you have a show? That's where it comes from.

672
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: It's like this idea that you're like turning down shows. Yeah,

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00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like like like there's just like

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Speaker 1: like you're It's like when people say like why don't

675
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: you have a man? As if there were so many

676
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: options given me like back, that used to blow my

677
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: mind when people say, like one, like why are we

678
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: acting as if we're like getting dropped off at good

679
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: Nigga Island and we're just like no, no, no, he's

680
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: too short, so he's too fine, Like that's not a

681
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: thing that's happening. Okay, it's good a man, listen, I

682
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: it's I. There has not been a charted course yet,

683
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: and I'm literally trying to find it. Like I talked

684
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: to my dude all the time about like where where

685
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: do you come from? Like where out h He's like,

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00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: it's just I'm one of one I would set apart

687
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: for you. I'm one of one set apart for you,

688
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: nobody else. I won't believe that because every time, every

689
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: time I see you, I'm just like, we're gonna get

690
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: her a boom. It's coming, it's coming, And my show

691
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: was coming, as is your show. It's coming. Here's the thing.

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: There's a large part of me that also just feels

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Speaker 1: like I've been a late bloomer in every facet of

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Speaker 1: my life. So like, why wouldn't I be a late

695
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: bloomer in like the show facet? Like why wouldn't I

696
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: like I was a late bloomer in like physical development,

697
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: I've been a late bloomer and even just like my

698
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: own sense of awareness and health and healing right, and

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00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: like I when I got with my partner, we were

700
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: together in college and then we like lived separate lives

701
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: and then we came back together. But I wouldn't have

702
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: been able to correct receive him, like literally six months earlier. Correct,

703
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have Can I feel like work? Because you

704
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: were doing the work. I was like, in the thick

705
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: of the fucking work, I know about it. Yeah, that's

706
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: it's and it's hard, and you got to sit with

707
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: these uncomfortable as feelings and realizations of who you are

708
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: and just be like yes, yeah, yeah, you're like okay,

709
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: And it's all the clenting period because yes, we want

710
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: our our partner, Yes we want our show and it

711
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: is in due time. And I think the Daily Show

712
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: comment it's just about and and it's hard for people

713
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: to receive compliments. So just just just hear me. Oh

714
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: I receive it. I receive it. I totally because as

715
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: someone who sees everyone pop up with a show on air,

716
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: it's very in this world of our attention span is

717
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: like this, if someone is literally waiting to hear what

718
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: you have to say to the very end, it's very

719
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: important to know that your voice means a lot. It

720
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: may not. I'd rather have a super small dope following

721
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: instead of like thirty million people who don't even pay

722
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: attention to me quality quantity every single day. And so

723
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: it is. It is you are constantly top of mind

724
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: when people are talking about did you hear what Amana

725
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: said the other day about such and such? So that's new,

726
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Like I did not really realize that, Like I genuinely

727
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: did not really realize that until we started going outside again.

728
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because you know, we was in this pandemic

729
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: and we were all in the house. Yeah, I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I was be on my phone because I'm in

731
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Speaker 1: a house. Okay, Like I'm just I'm in a house.

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Speaker 1: So I got a thought, let me share it. I'm

733
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: in a house. Hey. Yeah. And and if I'm being honest,

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Speaker 1: I think the internet connection kind of helped me main

735
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: saying in the isolation of the quarantine and the first

736
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: two years of the pandemic, because I didn't feel safe

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00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to go out and tour, I didn't feel safe to

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: go out and like keep doing the art thing that

739
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: I was doing. And so it was like this last

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00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: thread of like, Okay, I can still be expressive and

741
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: get something back, right. And so then when we started

742
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: going outside again, people would be coming up to me,

743
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: like our peers would be coming up to me and saying, like, girl,

744
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: I've been following you. Throw out this whole in this pandemic.

745
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: You got me through this pandemic. I'm like, for real.

746
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: And that was something I kind of just didn't I

747
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: just wasn't truly aware of, and it heightened Mike. It

748
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: heightened my consciousness about like shifting. I realized I had

749
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: to shift my focus that I've been really kind of

750
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: following the normal track of like I need to get

751
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: these executives to care about me. I need to get

752
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: this industry to get to care about me. And I realized, like, no,

753
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: what you need to do is preserve the connection you

754
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: have with the audience that cares about you, and you

755
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: need to put your energy into that, into figuring out

756
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: how to do that, which is why I decided, like,

757
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: let me go on tour. And so I've been on

758
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: tour with the Black Outside Again Tour since Joe Lot

759
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: since June, and it's been it's been of a journey.

760
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: It's been a bit of a journey because one of

761
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: my partners along the way in the tour, like didn't

762
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: really show up in the way that I would have

763
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: liked them too, and so it caused my tickets to

764
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: not move in the way that they normally do and

765
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: I and there was this worry by them that like, oh, well,

766
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do shows where you only sold thirty percent

767
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: of the house because it's going to be embarrassing for you. Yeah,

768
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: and let me tell you. They could have not been

769
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: more wrong, because when you are folks like us who

770
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: like people aren't like fans of their supporters of a

771
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: different Yeah, it's a different energy, like yeah, they're showing up.

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: It's like every person equals six people, yeah, saying like

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00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: they're showing up with full one Like I'm here. So

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00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: even if even if I'm in a venue that's supposed

775
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: to have two thousand people and there's only seven hundred

776
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: people there, it feels five thousand because they rock what

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: you heavy, you know what I mean? And you're right

778
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: thank out for coming out. Yeah, no, they have your back.

779
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: It is it is Honestly, I think something that you said,

780
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: the pandemic gave you and yes you did give it back.

781
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: But when you're sought after for opinion, much like you

782
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: know our brother shar, people want to hear what you

783
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: have to say. It's part of the culture. You're a

784
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: voice of the culture. And as it's happening, you don't

785
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: know it's happening, but it's happening in real time. Then

786
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I can name twenty thirty people, but it's just happening

787
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: in real time, and it could be a conversation at

788
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: the dinner table about what you said about what's going

789
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: on with the city council here in La, which I'm

790
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got me, had me fired up. Just

791
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: the videos with you not looking and just making faces

792
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: are hilarious. So listen. Someone commented that video was reposted,

793
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: and someone in the comments said, you know what upsets

794
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: me about this is these videos where someone is reacting

795
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: to what other people said and judging them as if

796
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: they're perfect. Amanda Seale's better hope no videos or recordings

797
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: leak of her. And I thought that was interesting, and

798
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sure that I have absolutely said

799
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: shit that people will take and run with, right, No,

800
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: nothing like that, but I'm sure, let me just disclaimer that.

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00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: But that being said, I'm like my response to that was,

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00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: I think what's odd to me is that you because

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00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: he was like, it feels like this is for entertainment value,

804
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: and as it was odd to me is that you

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00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: feel that like bolstering an entertainment aspect to the revelation

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00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: of information that people should about. It is like that

807
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: that somehow devalues the information that they're being shown. And

808
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I feel like what I've been really

809
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: fortunate to figure out is how to use my entertainment

810
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: value to create education and make it edutainment. So like

811
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: that situation with the woman in La City Council and

812
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: the other two members and them talking very disparagingly about

813
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Indigenous people in Mexico as well as about this black child, etc.

814
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Like that is information that folks need to know because

815
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: these are people who are in legislative like and like

816
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: rulemaking and lawmaking positions, and if they are holding biases

817
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: against the people in their constituency, then they are not

818
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: the people they should be in that job. And if

819
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: I got to make a video reacting to make to

820
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: a grandize or amplify that, then so be it. Then

821
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: so be it. Because you you make it so simple

822
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: and so plain. Then you're like, I am outraged. You

823
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: mean to tell me we here we are all marginalized

824
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: black and brown folks and so we're all against each other.

825
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: So the blacks are with the blacks and the white

826
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: sor what the are we doing? What is the point? Well,

827
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Speaker 1: you know, the thing is is that not all brown

828
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: folks are brown folks. So like there's you know, within

829
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: the Latin X or Hispanic community, you know, you have

830
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: afro Latino Afro Latin X people and then you have

831
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, indigenous people. But then you have the white

832
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: folks who are the descendants of slaves. And you know,

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00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I think they call they call the mestizo um but

834
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Speaker 1: they if they consider themselves adjacent to whiteness, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be I say, I would say, like they

836
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the next Italians, Like yeah, why

837
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: don't you because Italians were not considered white. And then

838
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: it was like, ah, we need more folks, we need

839
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: more folks. Y'all could be white, y'all could be like white,

840
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: whiteness is a Whiteness is a moving goalpost that only consist,

841
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: that only contains um. It's power by numbers, right. So

842
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: that's why, like when you see this whole rov Wade thing,

843
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: and there's a theory that this has to do with

844
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: there being fewer white babies born, like that completely supports that,

845
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: like there has to be it's a I saw this

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00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: brother speaking the other day. I'm so mad. I don't

847
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: have his name in my mind right now, but he

848
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: was saying, racism is a team sport. He's like, as

849
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: a team sport. And so if you have the deeper bench.

850
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: You can fight the fight like you can keep yourself

851
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: on top. And I look at black folks all the

852
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: time and say, you know, we miss we have missed

853
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: the boat on realizing the incredible depth and power that

854
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: we have simply just in numbers, in numbers and sticking together.

855
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: And we have no concept. We don't we have no

856
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: concept of the power that we have. And we love

857
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: to say we're not a monolith. And I'm like, but

858
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: we could stand to be a little bit more. We could,

859
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: we could be a little more one I and and

860
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: whatever I can started talking about that all day. Girl

861
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: gives fired up on your people. But I love yeah,

862
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: I love you. Every champion and carry champions to be

863
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: a champion, a champion, and carry champion, and carry champion,

864
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: A champion and carry champion and carry champion sports and

865
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: entertainment can nake it work? Verry champion and carry champions,

866
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: to be a champion, a champion, they carry champion. They

867
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: got a champion, they carry champion, they carry champions. Entertainment.

868
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: I do say this with my understanding of your entertainment.

869
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel because I used to say this

870
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: all the time. You talk every day on TV Bound

871
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Bound and says it's just gonna happen. Do you ever

872
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: feel that you want to not be in the game

873
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: after a bad day on social? Do you ever feel

874
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: like I'm packing it up? Y'a, don't get no more

875
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: in my wisdom, you go, you have you ever felt

876
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: that way? Even when like even let's talk about Insecure,

877
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: You're like, you do know this is a character, like

878
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: I am just you know, I was like, what is

879
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: going on? What I couldn't even understand? I couldn't understand it.

880
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: I could not understand it. That would have made me irritated.

881
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? To the point where

882
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm been like I'm tapping off. I'm tapping off a

883
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: social I don't like you guys, this is I am

884
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: not in AKA. This is a character that I am playing.

885
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: If you guys could give me some grace, I have

886
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: felt I have felt that way. Like sometimes it just

887
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, like this is just an overabundance of

888
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: ignorance that I can't take, or this is an overabundance

889
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: of negativity that I can't take. I mean, I've told

890
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: this story before, Like I remember when I had I

891
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: had two situations happen in twenty nineteen, where like I

892
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: was just drag baby, okay, dow wow through the inter

893
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: nets and why we can't laugh at it now, do you?

894
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: Guys don't want to through the internet like that is

895
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: some real just visualize that. That's how would be, like

896
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: literally dog walk me through the Internet. And folks don't

897
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: understand that because folks will say things like I don't

898
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: know why you care that people who don't know you

899
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: are talking about you, and it's like that's why because

900
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: they're just like you don't even know me. Like so,

901
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: but I was being dog walked through this Internet, and

902
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: there was it was a scenario that had happened, and

903
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I thought like, okay, we had gotten through it, and

904
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: then it got re visited like someone just decided, like

905
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday at two o'clock, like, you know what,

906
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: let me just put this back in the atmosphere. And

907
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: I started getting the tags and getting the dms, and

908
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: I just like I remember I was about to interview

909
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: comedian Sam Jay on my podcast, and so she was

910
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: at the house and I literally just like fell like

911
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: I like crumbled to my knees and was just like

912
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm done, like I'm just done. Like it like actually

913
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: broke me because because the thing, because the thing that

914
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I was being attacked for was for something that I

915
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: was wholeheartedly justified in doing and and it needed to happen.

916
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: And it was like, how could I be so misunderstood

917
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: in this situation? Like like what does that like? And

918
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: so what happens is you reach a point of like

919
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: if this is how people react to me moving at

920
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: my most authentic and genuine, then like how the funck

921
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: could I continue to move in this space? I have

922
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: to go right, And I feel like for a lot

923
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: of people, that's what suicide really is about. It's like

924
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: if this is what it's gonna be, if I continue

925
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: to be me, then I just can't continue to be um.

926
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: And I felt I felt that the four too. Yeah,

927
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: but but as it related to the business, like that

928
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: was I just said and Sam had to like, yeah,

929
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: it was a it was a Terry McMillan film. Like

930
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Sam had to like pick me up off the ground

931
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: and be like, no, sister, this is You've got to

932
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: keep going, you know. And I'm just like, oh gosh,

933
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: like no, let him brant you, you know. And then

934
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: it's like a title Perry stage play. You know, you're

935
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: just like to have like but you know in the

936
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: more in the more, like in the more travel sizes

937
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: there because we're and Sam is strong. That's a strong girl. Yeah,

938
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: I love yea. She said, let me pick you up

939
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: physically and emotionally. You need these n everybody you know

940
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you need that. You need that. People always ask me like, oh,

941
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: like what's your advice and someone getting in this business

942
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, make sure you have people around you

943
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: who reminds you of who you are on the days

944
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: this business makes you forget a man that is a

945
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 1: by the way, that is a word for your ass,

946
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: and then it just rejuvenates you. And she gave you

947
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: what you needed to keep going. I think, I think

948
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: you're built for this. But then when you're in the

949
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: middle of being dog walk on the internet and you're

950
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: always like surprised, like like I know, it's always most random,

951
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what you know? And it'll it'll creep

952
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: up on you. So many times, y'all. I will like

953
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: send a tweet and then go about my life or

954
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: like like something, and then this will go about my

955
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: life and then like you know, a few hours later,

956
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: look at my phone, like, oh, I don't know if

957
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: you remember. There was this white lady who like she

958
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: like sent a tweet before she took off on a

959
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: flight to South Africa and she said something like I'm

960
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: going she said something like hella racist, and she was

961
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: like an exec for some big company. And then she

962
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: and then she turned her phone off and like took

963
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: off on the on the plight and when she landed

964
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: fourteen hours later, she had like lost her job, like

965
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: she had been like everything had been blown up, and

966
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like damn, Like that's how it would be sometimes,

967
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: she said out a tweet I will never forget when

968
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I was sitting in a Paris airport and I sent

969
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: out a tweet that said, if you have Jay's and

970
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: Nike suits and you don't have a passport, then you're losing.

971
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: And then I like put my phone away and went

972
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: out with my life. And by the time I got

973
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: to WiFi again, I was the hated, Like what was

974
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: what was the outrage for the alleged outrage um The

975
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: alleged outrage was that I was policing how black people

976
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: spend their money. Didn't say anything about black people in

977
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: the tweet. I was policing how black people spend their money.

978
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: I was being elitist. I was trying to force people

979
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: to travel who don't want to travel. I was talking

980
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: about this on Candy Brus's podcast the other day, well,

981
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: her show the other day, and I was like, I

982
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: never forget. There was a tweet that said, Amanda Seals

983
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: is an elitist, petty bourgeoisie who is passport shaming the

984
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: disenfranchised black community. Wow, I'm doing all of that. Wow, okay,

985
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: just by a tweet, I did all that. You you're

986
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: and that's the part where you're just like, you don't

987
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: even know me, what are you talking about? Oh? Someone

988
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: told me the other day that by re sharing an

989
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: al Ja zero news story about something about like a

990
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: announced Zerra's news story about something going on in Ethiopia,

991
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: they said that I was empowering the Ethiopian government. And

992
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, ma'am, I don't have that

993
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of power. Yeah, well she but yes, that's the

994
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: beauty of it all though. That's what I'm saying. That's

995
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: how people see you, and it's interesting, and that doesn't

996
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: mean change who you are. It means that that just

997
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: comes with the territory of having the ear right and

998
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: being a voice within our culture right, but it does

999
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: mean changing like what you decide to like step into

1000
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel yeah, yeah, it depends well because you know

1001
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: Jameale and I'd be like, did Jamel, Like I don't

1002
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: even feel like getting into it with the today, you

1003
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like Jamel's mom. Jamel's mom was

1004
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: on my flight back from Detroit the other day. Yeah,

1005
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: she told her. She was like, well, you know, my

1006
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: daughter is Jamel Hill and like, did you told Jamil that?

1007
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: Did you tell I was texting her? I was like, yo, yeah,

1008
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: momind me and she was like, oh she told the

1009
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: whole plane and she's my mom. That is so funny.

1010
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: Well let me tell you. I don't think her mom

1011
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: realized that I like know her know her though, like

1012
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: I was. She was like, oh you know my daughter

1013
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: was like yeah, she's like what's your name? A man?

1014
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: And she was like, well, thank you for your support.

1015
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, like I was like that,

1016
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: like like I know, like a texting her like look,

1017
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, not only do I support her, but

1018
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: that's like my friend's real like yeah, oh you do

1019
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: know my daughter? Oh Okay, no, um, so I do

1020
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: I do know, I do know if you want to

1021
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: feel the headache, because no matter what, when you're in

1022
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: the middle of it, it still takes a lot from

1023
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: you and I and I think, and I've said this before,

1024
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a space where I like to watch

1025
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: people evolve and grow and I've seen you do that.

1026
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: So don't be kind and gentle to yourself. Don't take

1027
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: that for granted, because it's it's beautiful and it's special.

1028
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, Carrie Champs. What are you about to say? No?

1029
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: Because people I see people all the time will be like,

1030
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: you're so much like happier now you know, you're just

1031
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: not as angry. It's like, damn, can a bitch get loved?

1032
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: Like what like, yeah, and let me learn it? And yes,

1033
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: love helps if you've been learning. And that's and and

1034
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm watching that legislation. Yeah, we're allowed to do that.

1035
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: We are allowed to do that. So don't don't get

1036
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: that part of the process. I don't believe in the whole, like, oh,

1037
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: a leopard doesn't change its spots, like people are who

1038
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: they are, Like I've never believed that. I think that's

1039
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: a cop out and I feel like there's a lot

1040
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: of Um, there's a lot of tropes that humans like

1041
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: kind of just repeat but they don't really know the

1042
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: source of So I started reading this book. I can't

1043
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: remember the name of it right now, but I started

1044
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: reading this book that basically seeks to reassess what is

1045
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: human nature. And they talk about how like so much

1046
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: of what we consider to be human nature, like how

1047
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: we say life isn't fair, how we say like, you know,

1048
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: like how we like people kind of say like greed

1049
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: is a natural human condition. Like they were like, you know,

1050
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: these are things that were basically like just written by

1051
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: white people who had the power to write correct in

1052
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: like the seventeen hundreds, and then it just got passed

1053
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: down a path down the path, down, the path down,

1054
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: and like it's not a fact. You do know that? Yeah,

1055
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: oh wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all we have. You know. We have the

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Speaker 1: power to define and redefine how we want to show up.

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Speaker 1: And um, I think a lot of times we don't

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Speaker 1: realize that, well, particularly for women, it is defined like

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Speaker 1: this is how you're supposed to show up, and then

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Speaker 1: you start to realize. But I don't wanna. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I don't want to show

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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to show up that way like

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Speaker 1: I want to wear skirts and also give niggas a dad?

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Speaker 1: Can I do both? Can I do? Why? And by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's that is the nature of what I

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Speaker 1: would say about your talent. You do it all, and

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Speaker 1: you do it the way you want to do it,

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Speaker 1: and you can and you can thank you and no

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Speaker 1: one can take that from you. You can and you will.

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Speaker 1: So I support you one dred percent where can ever you? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So in a Manda verse, will they find toward dates

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Speaker 1: because I know you said you're doing Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: go to Amanda Sales dot com. The twenty ninth is

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Speaker 1: October in Brooklyn. I will be in Philly doing stand

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Speaker 1: up on November twelfth. You can catch me in Oakland

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Speaker 1: after that and then I'm closing out the tour in

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Speaker 1: Chicago December, second, third, and fourth. So get your tickets

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Speaker 1: at Amanda seals dot com. And if you want to

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Speaker 1: hear just more of my musings, you want to see

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes footage, you want to see special exclusive

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Speaker 1: series that I'm doing, like my docu series Amanda on

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Speaker 1: the Move, or like my commentary series Rebels and Radicals,

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Speaker 1: you can subscribe to the Amanda Verse. It's a universe

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Speaker 1: of Amanda. You could subscribe to the Amanda Verse, and

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Speaker 1: when you get an annual membership, you get a shirt

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Speaker 1: that says Seals Squad that we're part of it, designed

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Speaker 1: by mow By my hand. I drew it myself. So

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Speaker 1: I love the monetization of it all. Don't give out

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Speaker 1: these musings for free. Because you've given out, You're given

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Speaker 1: out knowledge. It should be paid for. It should be

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Speaker 1: it should be premium, premium. I mean, I'm honestly like

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Speaker 1: working to be just not working harder, but working. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: girl joined joint Jones, right, yes, ma'am. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping to announce something really soon that I think

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Speaker 1: people will really be happy about it. I felt like

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Speaker 1: you were gonna be doing something soon, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder, well she says something. Now. I don't know anything,

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Speaker 1: but I just felt like it. I was like, it's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of time. I just you know, my

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Speaker 1: waiting on those paperwork, Okay, same, same, all right, So

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Speaker 1: I guess wed guys were both waiting on our paperwork.

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Speaker 1: So everybody gets show. You get a show, get a show.

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Speaker 1: We all get a shot. Smart, funny and black. I actually,

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Speaker 1: as mentioned in the podcast, happened to do it and

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Speaker 1: gott be badly. I was bad on my black culture,

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Speaker 1: my black pop culture. You'll forgive me. Got Bomony Jones.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Bomony Jones. But she's on tour. Check

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Speaker 1: her out. She told you she was gonna be in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta on the fifteenth, although this will have already aired,

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Speaker 1: but she's also in Porkling on the twenty night. And

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Speaker 1: then she's also on tour. She's doing She's at a

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Speaker 1: couple of comedy clubs in Phillies. You gotta go to

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Speaker 1: amandiverse dot com Amanda Seals dot com. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Support her support looks like, I appreciate what you do

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Speaker 1: because I know it's hard to do what you do

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Speaker 1: and if you could do it differently, you would. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: when I meet people like that, who I know it

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Speaker 1: is in there being to be who they are. They're

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Speaker 1: not doing it for effect, for fame, for attention. It

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Speaker 1: is just who they are. And then that other part

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Speaker 1: comes right that that entertainment business side of it will come,

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Speaker 1: but it is who she is and I am more

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Speaker 1: than willing to support her. I ask you guys to

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Speaker 1: do the same. That was my helpboat cracking again and

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Speaker 1: I guess I gotta get in yoga. Next week we're

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Speaker 1: back with a new edition of Naked