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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for day at the State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Danner Venstein welcome back Big ten Preview Part three. This

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Speaker 1: is Big ten Team Previews Part Duh dude. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: let me get my notepad out here. We've got Iowa, Nebraska, USC,

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Speaker 1: Michigan State, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ucla, and Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: All kind of fascinating in their own way.

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Speaker 1: They kind of are. I was looking over this before

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Speaker 1: we hit go, and yeah, each one of these teams,

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Speaker 1: I have what, at least for me is a whole

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Speaker 1: list of intriguing questions. So I'm excited to be back

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Speaker 1: here with you. I'm excited to be back here with

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Speaker 1: about what we're doing here. If you're a Big Ten

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Speaker 1: back and listen to parts one and two so that

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Speaker 1: our or a third two thirds of our Big Ten coverage.

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Speaker 1: This is the final chapter today, mister Rubinstein. How goes it?

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Speaker 2: It goes really well. It's very hot here in the

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Speaker 2: Midwest as we record this, and what better way to

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Speaker 2: celebrate that heat, that burn is to talk Minnesota football,

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Speaker 2: Rutgers rebuilding their secondary, UCLA looking for offensive linemen, USC

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Speaker 2: try to finish some games. It all adds up. Ty,

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Speaker 2: I'm very ready to talk about all of these teams. Really,

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten is a five conference. We talked about

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Speaker 2: it before that. It was a maybe surprisingly electric year

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Speaker 2: for the conference last year with adding the teams that

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Speaker 2: and even the teams that seemed to be down were

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Speaker 2: competitive by the end of the season. For the most part.

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Speaker 2: There were results there to say like, Okay, this team

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Speaker 2: is improving. Michigan State whatever they are, beat Iowa, Ucla,

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Speaker 2: whatever they are, beat Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true, very true. Iowa ran an average

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Speaker 1: offense last year. Right, Hey, so why not there was

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Speaker 1: hidden electricity to be mined in twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see that. Maybe it's not all over

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Speaker 1: the place this year, but of the teams you just listed,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of sparks here.

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Speaker 3: Big Ten twenty twenty five, Dark.

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Speaker 1: Energy, dark energy, dark.

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome on back. Thank you one and all again

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Speaker 1: for your ongoing support. I'm excited to do this show.

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Speaker 1: I've shot out out of a cannon today. I am

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Speaker 1: ready for this. I am excited to close out all

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Speaker 1: things Big ten with you. Dan. We talked about the

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Speaker 1: Biggins on the last episode. Today is going to be

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Speaker 1: more Biggins.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 1: Is a big conference now eighteen teams, Yes, but not

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Speaker 1: necessarily the teams. We've gotten that top tier. Where do

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Speaker 2: Listen, I've already said their school twice. They are the

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Speaker 2: this conference. I guess we're going Iowa, Iowa most Big

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Speaker 2: Ten of these teams. I don't know Wisconsin. Perhaps let's

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Speaker 2: go Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I love Iowa. I'm all in in Iowa. This here, man,

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Speaker 1: I like them. I like them more than I expected.

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Speaker 2: So yes, from a pure efficiency standpoint, and they're not

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Speaker 1: It just has to work. It just has to work. Now,

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Speaker 1: hurt to lose Caleb Johnson. I don't see how it can't.

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Speaker 1: But this is still a veteran team with a lot back,

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Speaker 3: He's a really strong long runner.

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Speaker 1: what South Dakota State did. Essentially, they played it off

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Speaker 1: that to great effect. They'd snap the ball, maybe a

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I think it works.

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Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention, and maybe we should

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Speaker 2: Help when you have one of the greatest, if not

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm looking for. That's what I think

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Speaker 1: And like, even if they're marginally worse here, I still

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think all of that is reasonable. Mark Ronowski

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Speaker 2: did play a game against a power conference team last year.

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Speaker 2: They played the worst Big twelve team in Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: last year. Obviously, Cad McNamara gets hurt and it's you know, comedy.

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Speaker 2: I think was Brendan Lewis, Brendan Sullivan. That was a

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Speaker 2: throwing right that it's hard to convince receivers to go

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Speaker 2: offers an opportunity for transfers. What does their tight end

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Speaker 2: Legendary producer started Sun Records, Johnny Cash, Sam Phillips.

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Speaker 2: don't hate the schedule. I don't love the schedule. I

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Speaker 2: look at this now. I don't love, just plainly the

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Speaker 3: I'm always early on these guys.

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Speaker 1: If Mark Gronowski can play until he's twenty seven, he'll

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Speaker 2: By the way, easy transition here sounds to the next team,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'm good, and I'm good in Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Is your Phil Snow sound back? Because Phil Snow is back?

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Speaker 1: All right, vamp a little bit. I'm gonna find.

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Speaker 2: It, Okay. So obviously we're talking about Nebraska here. Longtime

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Speaker 3: I really like.

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Speaker 2: Phil Snow's defenses at Baylor. Anybody would be crazy not

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Speaker 2: I think it's hiring or promoting John Butler the secondary's coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got it, I got it.

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Speaker 1: That's the snow advisory, baby, you know it.

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Speaker 2: Phil Snow is back. He was at Temple and Baylor.

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Speaker 2: I think he went with him to the Panthers. You

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Speaker 2: fascinating because of year two of Dylan Royola upgrades at receiver,

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Speaker 2: Of course. I think Dante dud Dell's off to Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: I believe. And so the expectation after a very picklebally

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I would add, and I was

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Speaker 1: already said this right, Like, anytime you bring Matt rule,

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Speaker 2: You got a wat of that bamboo, you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't first see the growth, but steady, day by day, watering,

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Speaker 3: You will get there.

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Speaker 1: I think we see a marginal step back on defense,

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Speaker 2: Agree. The good news also for Nebraska, so they have

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Speaker 1: It's a Thursday night game against Cincinnati on August of

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Speaker 2: They're getting Michigan in the first month at home. So

436
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Speaker 2: whatever Michigan's offense is going to be, it's not going

437
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Speaker 2: to be that by that game. I don't believe if

438
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Speaker 2: it's a true freshman at quarterback, if it's a healing

439
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: Mikey Keane. Whatever it is, it's Michigan State at home

440
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: with a by the week before. I don't know if

441
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: we're fully there with Michigan State yet. I guess we're

442
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: going to get to that soon. It is Maryland and

443
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: Minnesota on the road with some combination of youth and

444
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: inexperience at quarterback there and not in Minnesota's case, bringing

445
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: in a ton of recent success downfield. Ucla big old

446
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: question mark. Northwestern probably not going to be incredible through

447
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: the air, USC is at home, but should be somewhat

448
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: strong through the air. Penn State should be good through

449
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: the air, and Iowa is despite all of your uh,

450
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: your your love and tingliness still a big question.

451
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Speaker 1: There's so many tingles.

452
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Speaker 2: So the reason that that's interesting to me, even though

453
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm not as high on Nebraska as you are, is

454
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Speaker 2: what is the number Nebraska needs to consistently score get

455
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Speaker 2: to to say Okay, they've definitively improved under Dana Holgerson, Like,

456
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: there's more, there's more of a vision, there's more of

457
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: a plan, there's more comfort there, and that gives you,

458
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Speaker 2: if you feel decently about the Nebraska defense, gives you

459
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Speaker 2: a decent enough cushion The number in my mind is

460
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Speaker 2: like twenty seven points, twenty seven somewhere between twenty seven

461
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Speaker 2: and thirty points. If Nebraska's consistently in that zone, which

462
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: they very much were not last year, that's the thing.

463
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to see that bump. You're gonna have

464
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: to see more explosive plays you know you saw a

465
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: little bit of in the bowl game. You're gonna have

466
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: to see that bump from Nebraska because fielding, and it

467
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: is the Big ten. But fielding a team wek in

468
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: week out that needs to win twenty to seventeen seventeen

469
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: fourteen just leaves you no margin for error. And there's

470
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: still a lot of questions and new faces on both

471
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: sides of this Nebraska team. So that's where I feel

472
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: a lot more comfortable. If after I don't know the

473
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Speaker 2: Michigan game, I guess, you know, you get three weeks,

474
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Speaker 2: including a Cincinnati game on a neutral site. If by

475
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: the time we get into like week six or seven,

476
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: and like they're scoring thirty points, thirty three points against

477
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: decent teams Cincinnati and Michigan, then I'm like, Okay, this

478
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: Nebraska team is worth all of our collective attention. But

479
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Speaker 2: I'm not there yet.

480
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Speaker 1: I think all that's fair. And the only other thing

481
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Speaker 1: that I would point out about this offense, because you

482
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Speaker 1: mentioned Dana Holgerson, I am curious obviously about the line

483
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: about how they integrate maybe more of an attacking, aggressive

484
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: mentality with respect to their vertical passing game. I'm curious

485
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: to see what they do as a running offense as well,

486
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: because we didn't see much of it until Holgerson took

487
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: the rains last season, and it was at that point

488
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: we started to see a little bit more out of

489
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Emma Johnson. It was gonna be there starting running back

490
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: this year, and so I'm just hoping that we see

491
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a cohesive approach on offense,

492
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: that it's not all on Dylan Royola. It's not pickleball.

493
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: They're able to kind of make all of these parts

494
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: work together to make the team better. They were seven

495
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: and six a year ago. The over under this year

496
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: is seven and a half. That's another over under. I

497
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about the issue though with Nebraska this season,

498
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this on Part one. You could talk

499
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: me as much into ten and two as you could

500
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: six and six. I think there's a pretty wide disparity

501
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: of results there nine and three for me for Nebraska

502
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: this year, Wow, I.

503
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Think I'm closer to seven and five. I'm not there.

504
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: I just I need it from the offense, and I

505
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: like the pop they've added at receiver. I just need

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: to see it all come together over four quarters against

507
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: take your pick, Michigan, Iowa. You know I mentioned the

508
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: passing offenses on here. Could be a lot of stingy

509
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: defenses on here, depending on what I mean. Obviously we

510
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: think that about Penn State, Iowa, probably Minnesota that there's

511
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: a lot of change there. Probably Michigan, like there's a

512
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: good amount. Northwestern I think will be okay on defense.

513
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: That's the thing to me, is like, yeah, it's fine.

514
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: It's a good July story. But push comes to shove

515
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: and they're losing another they're winning games ten to seven.

516
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: They're like, ugh, I don't know, man, here we go again.

517
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Speaker 1: This is the problem with me making some of these

518
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: proclamations in late July, like Iowa, Nebraska, there were some

519
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: other teams we talked through yesterday. I am putting my

520
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: chips on a bunch of unproven units, and that's never

521
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: a great idea, right until it is, but for now,

522
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: it's that that's sort of the downside to this approach.

523
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: But I like both these teams we talked about so

524
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: far pretty a pretty good amount.

525
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a terribly long time time ago that

526
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: we were watching Charlie Brewer get destroyed physically because they

527
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 2: couldn't figure out offensive line, they couldn't figure out how

528
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: to be creative on offense, and they were winning despite it.

529
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: I just think it's really hard to win despite your

530
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: quarterback getting shelled all the time and not being able

531
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: to bomb the ball down the field occasionally.

532
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you. So you're going seven

533
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: and five, seven and five, boll tame for sure, nine

534
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: and three babies, seven and five with upside.

535
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I've been burned before.

536
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: Why don't we keep it here with another.

537
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Marquee blue blood program that has a seven and a

538
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: half win total.

539
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

540
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your USC Trojans dance. Yeah, so let

541
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: me start with a positive on USC. Okay, the positive

542
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: is that Danton Lynn is the real deal the defensive

543
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, took over the defense last year,

544
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: made the whole thing better, and I think he's going

545
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: to make it better again. There was a huge effort

546
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: to improve the defensive line, which I think they addressed

547
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: well through the portal, and that makes me feel a

548
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: lot better about USC coming into this year and their potential.

549
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: They were ninety fifth last year in yards allowed per contact,

550
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: eighty eighth in pressure rate. They got no push up front,

551
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: so they got to find a way to improve that.

552
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: I think with what they did in the portal, they

553
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: will find a way to do that. I like Dan Lynn.

554
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I think he will concoct away with his attacking aggressive

555
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: scheme of course, to get a little bit more of

556
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: a push up front.

557
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: Outside of that, though, Dan.

558
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: I mixed on USC. That's okay, I'm really mixed here,

559
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: and I am trying not to let it be or

560
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: let it sound like East Coast bias. Okay, why don't

561
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: I hand it over to you. You're always the more

562
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: balanced Southern California kid talking about all things USC.

563
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: I hope. So, I don't know. USC people probably don't

564
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: feel that way. They definitely don't because you're an organ guy.

565
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, but we do not. We never review how

566
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: we feel about these teams. We're always kind of coming

567
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: at this cold you and I talking it through. It

568
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: works better that way. Well, we did it a little

569
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: bit on the first episode. Are a little bit big

570
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: picture that it was clear that I'm higher on USC

571
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: than you are this season. But talk me through your

572
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: like USC logic here. Okay, the case for USC is

573
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: not terribly complicated. The case for USC is it's Jade

574
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Mayova's first season being the guy this entire offseason. The

575
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: running back room is likely worse. You know, transfers coming

576
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: in after losing Woody Marx, I mean he's done career wise,

577
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: and Quentin Joyner transfers to Texas Tech. They're a little

578
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: bit thinner at receiver, losing the receivers that they lost,

579
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Deuce Robinson, Zachariah Branch, Kiren Hudson. But the pair of

580
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Jacoby Lane and Makaie Lemon, I think our quality, if

581
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: not good, sort of disappeared at times. But that's never

582
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: fully on receiver, you know, just offensive struggles and Miller

583
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Moss having an up and down year and trying to

584
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: figure out what the vision of this offense is going

585
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: to be. Offensive line solidified last year, which was a

586
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: nice improvement to see. I think it'll still be solid

587
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: this season, even with the losses that they've suffered, tight

588
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: end is in a good place. I just think there

589
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: are options for this offense. And now the people who

590
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: like to criticize Lincoln Riley, usually in a fair way,

591
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: will say offense has never really been the issue with

592
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. He has solidified the defense. They bring in

593
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: transfers once again, their beefier upfront because they were not good.

594
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't believe against the run last season. The secondary

595
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: has portal guys, They're healthier at linebacker. They lost key

596
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: dudes on all three levels of this defense. Of course

597
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: everybody does. But I think there's enough back. I don't

598
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: think Lincoln Riley has forgotten how to coach. If anything,

599
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: he's forgotten how to finish. And I think going into

600
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: the off season there is that such a clear note

601
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: on this team, like what's the plan in the fourth quarter,

602
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Whether it's being better in terms of stamina and physique whatever,

603
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't think that makes sense. Better in terms of physique,

604
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: we can all be better in terms of physique time

605
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: who among us yet? But in terms of like right

606
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: stamina and plan and mental acuity at the end of games,

607
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: here's the plan, here's what we're doing, and I.

608
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Think they will be.

609
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: They weren't far off last year, but a lot of

610
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: teams are not good in close games and don't get

611
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: it fixed. I think USC can. I think they have

612
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: smart coaches. I think they have good enough players, and

613
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I think offensively, I'm not terribly worried. I think they'll

614
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: be able to run the ball fine, not maybe in

615
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: an electric fashion, and then on defense they address what

616
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: they needed to address. I don't think they have star

617
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: power on this defense, maybe besides for Kamari Ramsey at safety,

618
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: who by the way, Sierra Canyon graduate. There you go,

619
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: shout out Blazers. I just think there's enough. I think

620
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: there's enough there. And when you look at a lot

621
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: of this conference, there are so many questions and USC

622
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: does have just like they kept Dan Lynn right, there's

623
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: a good amount of continuity involved that. I just I think,

624
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: like the question I have about Nebraska is can they

625
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: get to thirty points a game? I think USC can

626
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: get to thirty to thirty four points a game. They

627
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 2: just need to keep the other team to twenty eight consistently,

628
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: good or bad, and that remains a question to me.

629
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: The schedule is.

630
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Speaker 1: Interesting, it's kind of ridiculous, is what it is.

631
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I know they have Oregon late and they

632
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: have Notre Dame and Illinois on the road, but like,

633
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy crazy high on Illinois. We talked about

634
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: that on the previous episode. They should win their first

635
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: four games. They should start out four and zero. They

636
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: should have a decent shot against Michigan in transition because

637
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: that's in LA and they have a bye the week

638
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: before that, and Michigan has Wisconsin the week before that

639
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: before traveling out west, like a bye before a tough

640
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: road game at Nebraska. When Nebraska plays the week before,

641
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: I'll be it at home. They get Iowa at home,

642
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: and Oregon's on the road, and that's a tough two

643
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: week stretch. UCLA's in transition. Like I don't even need

644
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: to squint that much to say, Okay, they can go

645
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: eight and four, nine and three if they're able to

646
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: win a tight, low scoring game against Iowa, which is

647
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: going to be difficult, sure, and beat Michigan at home

648
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: or beat Illinois on the road. I don't think those

649
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: are impossible things. With what USC is bringing to the table.

650
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: There are only two teams in the schedule that I

651
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: look at and I say, yeah, they they're definitely worse

652
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: than those teams Oregon and Notre Dame. Orgon and Notre Dame,

653
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: both of which are on the road. But I think

654
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: games like Illinois and Nebraska are coin flips. I think

655
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: games like Michigan and Iowa, both of which are at home,

656
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: are definitely losable games, but maybe a little bit less

657
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: of a coin flip, right, given the circumstances. So yeah,

658
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I look at the schedule and I think I see

659
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the same things that you do. There are good teams

660
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: on this Situationally it kind of works to their favor.

661
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: But let me backtrack just a little bit for a second.

662
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, I take your point, they're gonna

663
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: score thirty some points a game, They're gonna get four

664
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards a game like that. That's sort of

665
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's deal, right, we got to get to thirty five,

666
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: we got to find a way to keep the other

667
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: team to twenty eight. That's been his story the entirety

668
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: of his time as a head coach. There's nothing new

669
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: in that argument. But to your point about they've got

670
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: to be better in close games, USC in some ways

671
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: is kind of like the anti Illinois from a year ago.

672
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: If Illinois was winning all those close games, if they

673
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: were five and one in close games and their second

674
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: order win total was less than their actual win total

675
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: in real life, USC was on the other end of that, right,

676
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: USC second order wins was much higher because they found

677
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: themselves in close games and they couldn't close. What have

678
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: they actually done though, to prove to you that they

679
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: will be better?

680
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: Well, they changed their quarterback two thirds of the way

681
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: into the season. They changed their quarterback. But and I

682
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: like Jade Mayab, I do, yeah, But what.

683
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Do you think about him as a steadying force to

684
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: get past some of those issues they had last year? Oh,

685
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: he's a wild card, he's chuck it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

686
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: And that's my point. I think he's an exciting player.

687
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I liked him when they got him. But I'm not

688
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: sure he's going to be like this bedrock to lean

689
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: on that's suddenly going to make USC bulletproof or more

690
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: bulletproof in these close games.

691
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: I am with you. It wasn't Miller Moss last year.

692
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: It just wasn't. He was not the guy at the

693
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: end of these games. So, if you're talking about Illinois specifically,

694
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: Illinois had a better quarterback and a better fourth quarter

695
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: managing head coach for sure, and coaching staff altogether one

696
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: hundred percent true. USC went to overtime with a college

697
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: football semi finalist at home in Penn State.

698
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: Correct.

699
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: Correct.

700
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren had only five hundred and eight total yards

701
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: in that game against sc They were one freak very

702
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: impressive play from Michigan away from beating Michigan at Michigan correct.

703
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Correct.

704
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: They were in position they beat LSU in Texas A

705
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: and m to bookend the season correct.

706
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Correct.

707
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying they weren't out classed last year.

708
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: Even the Notre Dame game was what a one touchdown

709
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: game halfway through the fourth quarter, which is a sunny

710
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: way of looking at two pick six Tony.

711
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if we want to talk about.

712
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: Jade Mayava giving them this lift in the fourth quarter,

713
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: they were right there with noted Amy threw for three

714
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: hundred and some odd yards, but threw a ninety nine

715
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: yard pick six to Christian Gray in one hundred yard

716
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: to Xavier Watts.

717
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: No, he was a great personal trainer. He got Notre

718
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: Dame secondary members a ton of exercise in that game.

719
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: But all said, all told, he put USC in position

720
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: to win and put USC in position to lose that game,

721
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: but they weren't outclassed by a team in the National

722
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: Championship for the majority of that game. Sure, this is

723
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: me wearing you know, Lincoln Riley Cardinal and gold glasses

724
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: right now.

725
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: Wow, maybe you should go work for Ryan Abraham.

726
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: I should.

727
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: You're really in on USC here, aren't you.

728
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: I might get a raise. So no, I'm just saying

729
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: that's the case for USC. If you're going to pick

730
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: a team, an emerging team candidate, one who played with

731
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: the best of college football and came up just short late.

732
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: Is a team that hypothetically could win more fifty to

733
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: fifty games because they were in position to win those games. Obviously,

734
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: the case against USC is the reason they lost those

735
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: games was happening week after week after week. It was

736
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: poor preparation, poor game management. It was you know, Miller

737
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Moss making poor decisions, Lincoln Riley making poor decisions, not

738
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: running the ball enough, giving Maryland their only I think

739
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Big ten win of the season. Right the way they

740
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: lost to Minnesota, the way they lost to Washington. You

741
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: can go on and on, but I think the talent

742
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: is there to play four quarters of decent football on

743
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. They needed to beef up.

744
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: They beefed up. They need to add talent to the secondary.

745
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: They added talent to the second they did.

746
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 3: No, I mean, all this is true.

747
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: You're you're not wrong.

748
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: All this is true. I would love a higher end

749
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: running back. I would love a slightly less of a

750
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: wild card quarterman not.

751
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: In on a transfer from New Mexico.

752
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: Buddy camp Scataboo came in from sax State. Okay, I'll

753
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: due respect to sax State. No or gets starting to

754
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: left tackle from Nevada.

755
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. Listen, this is fair, This is

756
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: all fair, This is all, this is all correct. And

757
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I think it's an eight and fourteen.

758
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: I just look at this conference and you look up

759
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: and down, not even just their schedule, but like Minnesota

760
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: is starting over, Michigan State has a ton left to do,

761
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: Rutgers has a ton left to do. Like there's just

762
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: so much that is just up in the air for

763
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: so many of the teams in the Big Ten. And

764
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: USC is just like chugging along hoping to get like

765
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: fifteen percent better. And if USC gets fifteen percent better,

766
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: this season. They're going nine and three.

767
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going nine to three. They get fifteen percent better.

768
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: I listen, everything you're saying is accurate. I am going

769
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more cautious on sc because

770
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: I again, and I've said this a couple of times

771
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: now through the course of all these previews, I don't

772
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: know how you fix that late game situation. You know,

773
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: where you're in close games, some of its luck. Granted, well,

774
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: not after that many times, not after that many times,

775
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: after that many times, it becomes more of a trend,

776
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: more of a feature than a bug. And so I'm

777
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: going to be cautious here. I think eight and four.

778
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: I could see seven and five, but I'll say eight

779
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: and four just to be a little bit more generous.

780
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see j malv again. I like

781
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: him a lot. I'm excited to see a full year

782
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: with him, and now he's had a full offseason to

783
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of be the guy. But he does have a

784
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: five star kind of breathing down his neck.

785
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh in Hassan Long Street.

786
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: If it doesn't if it doesn't go, there will be

787
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: an option later in the year. Again, like there was

788
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: sure to replace Miller, Moss but I'm on eight and four.

789
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: USC is the sort of they're the reverse Pinkman. But

790
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: he can't just he just can't keep getting away with it.

791
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: USC can't keep not getting away with it.

792
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I know. All right, Yeah, we've got six other teams

793
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: to get through here.

794
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh please, let's go.

795
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to Washington, Dan, all right, let's talk about

796
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: another former PAC twelve school. And you might be surprised

797
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: to know this is another team that I am all

798
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: in on. I'm all in. I think context again is important.

799
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: I think it was a mass exodus last year after

800
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Kalin de Bord bolted for Alabama, Jed Fish was named

801
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: the coach. He cobbled it together, you know, the best

802
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: he could on short notice. But line play was a

803
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: struggle bus. They only had six healthy scholarship offensive lineman

804
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: last spring. Still, they went six and six. Lost the

805
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: bowl game to Louisville.

806
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: Was not a.

807
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Particularly explosive offense. They were really bad on third downs.

808
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: They gave up a lot of sacks, maybe because of

809
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: that line.

810
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: Definitely a different team with them on Williams Rodgers, although

811
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: he was sad ten times against Oregon.

812
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: You're picking up when I'm putting down because this is

813
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: all the very long way of saying that despite the

814
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: fact that they went six and six and there were

815
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of warts that they got to deal with,

816
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: none of it matters because they found DeMont Williams, who

817
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: I think looks like the real deal. He went off

818
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: in the sun Ball at four hundred and twenty yards

819
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: and five touchdowns. Smaller dude like five eleven two hundre

820
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: but e loose of his hell a good passer has

821
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: track speed. Will Rogers was the starter for most of

822
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: the year, but Jed got to mon Williams some work

823
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the full way through, I think because he knew what

824
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: he had.

825
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

826
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: So if you look at his stat line over the

827
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: course of the year, and it's not indicative, but seventy

828
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: eight percent of his passes were completions at eight to

829
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: one td't interception ratio. Now a full off season to

830
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: build this thing with him as the dude, and Jedfish

831
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: brings in some reinforcements right via the portal via the

832
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: high school ranks. I think they are set for a

833
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: pretty big jump here. Jonah Coleman, who I like, is

834
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: back at running back as well. The wide receiver room

835
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: quietly pretty decent. Not as good as it was two

836
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: years ago, obviously, but quietly pretty decent. The lines are restocked,

837
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: they should be better. And then on top of all that,

838
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: Jetfish goes out and he hires Ryan Walters to take

839
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: over the defense, who was recently fired from Purdue but

840
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: before then was really good as a defensive coordinator for Illinois.

841
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: When you can get that twenty twenty four perdue coaching

842
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: DNA on your coaching.

843
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Staff, you gotta take you.

844
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.

845
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: You got no choice.

846
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: How do you?

847
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: How do you avoid?

848
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Steve Belichick was fine, He's fine. It comes from great pedigree.

849
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: But Ryan Walters, sorry to say, North Carolina is a

850
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: clear upgrade over Steve Belichick. The interesting thing that I

851
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: think Washington people should know about Ryan Walters. You want

852
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: to take it again, Ryan.

853
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Walters is an upgrade over Steve Belichick. Absolutely, you

854
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: said North Carolina was an upgrade over Steve Belichick, and

855
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, we are going to a deep place.

856
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what I said.

857
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: I am not intelligent enough.

858
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I think Kayenne on the oatmeal this morning instead of centiment.

859
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: I love that for you.

860
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: And I'm still dealing with the after effects of this. Okay,

861
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: so forgive me if I have a slip of tongue

862
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: or two. Would you like to take a guess as

863
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: to what Washington faithful should know about the Ryan Walters scheme.

864
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Works really well against god awful twenty twenty two Big

865
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: Ten offenses true.

866
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Anything else that you might be surprised to know.

867
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: I recall Illinois having an incredible corner that year who

868
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: has taken in like, stop it.

869
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm going to say?

870
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: What say tacking aggressive mentality?

871
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: It's aggressive, It's attacking.

872
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: That's what you're getting out of Ryan Walters. Something else

873
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: mentioned this on a previous episode. Taylor Mays is the

874
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: safety's coach. If you want to blast from the past

875
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: to make us all feel a little bit older. Seattle native,

876
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I have got Washington as my white knuckle team of

877
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: the Big Ten this year. Okay, they're not gonna win

878
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: the conference. Not gonna win the conference. I'm shaking my

879
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: head violently.

880
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: No, Okay.

881
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: They host Ohio State, they host Illinois, they host Oregon.

882
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: It's a good home. Like if you're a season ticket

883
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: holder for Washington, I want a little runket holder.

884
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: They have a game at Michigan. They might go ozer

885
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: to four against those teams. They're gonna make those teams

886
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: work for it. Dog. Yes, this is a team that

887
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: I think is poised for a really big jump now

888
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: that Jet's had a full cycle to kind of get

889
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: his guys in there, He's got his quarterback to build around.

890
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm there're gonna be some white knuckle situations for teams

891
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: perceived as much better than Washington going to Seattle obviously,

892
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: as they go on the road to Michigan. I'm I'm

893
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: pretty excited about this year for the Washington Huskies.

894
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: I am.

895
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: I think Jeed Fish is a pretty good coach. I

896
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: think they're are definite low moments in year one, and

897
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of that was roster driven and situation driven.

898
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: Losing the way they did to Rutgers, losing they did

899
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: to Wazoo the way that look Lincoln Riley gets all

900
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: the flackout West for how he does or doesn't finish games.

901
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: But there's some Peter South to Jedfish right there is

902
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: things aren't trending North. So I like Washington this year.

903
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: I like how much deeper they appear to be. I

904
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: need to, Okay, you want to take a moment to digest.

905
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

906
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: That was good, Okay, go ahead.

907
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: The offensive line should be better. They spent in the

908
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: portal there. They are recruiting well there, so long term,

909
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: I think the prognosis is pretty good for the offensive line,

910
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: which I think may have won the Joe More Award

911
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: when they went to the National Championship Game a couple

912
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: of years ago. It's a very good offensive line then.

913
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: And I think Tom Williams is good. I think Denzel

914
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: Boston is good. I think Jonah Coleman is good. I'd

915
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: like to see more from this offensive line getting consistent

916
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: push against the better teams on their schedule. Jonah Coleman

917
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: did absolutely nothing against Oregon. The offense did absolutely nothing

918
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: against Penn State. I was a thirty five to seven

919
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: game something like that. So what is the higher end?

920
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: And that was not a Demond Williams games. I don't

921
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 2: believe the Penn State game until he came in late.

922
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: Is this team capable of scoring thirty five points, thirty

923
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 2: eight points, thirty three points against some of the better

924
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: defenses on this schedule? Tbd? And I don't know what

925
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm looking at in this front seven. I don't know

926
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing here to make me think, if I'm

927
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: any of these teams on the schedule, you just like,

928
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: let's just run it right at Washington. Have they improved

929
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: so much upfront with the losses transfers coming in that

930
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: if you're a Washington fan, And I think Ryan Walser

931
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: just has his work cut out for him, because the

932
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: secondary should be in a good place. It's Tacario Davis

933
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: comes over from Arizona. The corners should be good, be good.

934
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: They were great against the pass last year, but why

935
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: not just run straight at Washington? I'd like to know

936
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: that in the first month of the season.

937
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Or so, I think. I do think they got bigger

938
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: and deeper upfront along the line, But now they got

939
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to to your point, get

940
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: a little bit better against the rush and do something.

941
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: They've got Ohio State Week five.

942
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: Against against quarterbacks, right, get some pressure. I mean the

943
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: pressure rate actually wasn't horrible, but they weren't converting that

944
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: into sacks last season, and so they need to find

945
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: a way to do that. And look, I mean I

946
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: kind of portray some of the teams on this schedule

947
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: as reasons to be interested, and I am under the

948
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: assumption that they will keep these games interesting.

949
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 3: Over the whole.

950
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: Though, there's a lot on this schedule that could go south.

951
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot on this schedule definitely that could absolutely

952
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: go south. Also, there are five conference teams coming off

953
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: by to play Washington this season. Ooh, so I know

954
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: we like to factor that in, but we've got a

955
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: situation here where they're going to be teams that are

956
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: rested and ready for whatever Washington is going to throw

957
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: at them. So you know, the line I think is

958
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: it's cluding Ohio State, by the way, in Cludio State. Yeah,

959
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: it's Ohio State, It's Maryland, it's Rutgers, it's Wisconsin, and

960
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I believe Illinois. Those five so those aren't, you know,

961
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: all bad teams with some pretty good teams on there.

962
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: And I just think that you're right to be concerned

963
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: about the line. We don't know how much better it's

964
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: going to be. For as much as I like Demon Williams,

965
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: consistency is definitely something that we have to wonder about.

966
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: And of course the schedule goal it here. Yeah, so

967
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm under seven and a half. For as much as

968
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I like Washington, the schedule's pretty tough. I'm going under

969
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: the seven and a half, but I think they're better.

970
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: I do think they're going to be white knuckle moments

971
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: with this team. And even though I know I talked

972
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: them up in Part one as a sleeper, I still

973
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: think they're seven and five. But it's going to be

974
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: a very very interesting and entertaining seven to five this year.

975
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there between seven and eight, which is

976
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: me just straddling the fence. They're eight and four if

977
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: they beat who they're supposed to beat and don't lose

978
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: something stupid like they should beat Wazoo this year, considering

979
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: what Wazoo lost they didn't last year, bid him they

980
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: should beat basically, you look at this schedule, I'm excuse me,

981
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: they should lose to maybe some combination Oregon, Illinois, Michigan,

982
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State. But I don't know Illinois at home. Oregon's

983
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: at home. We'll see what Oregon looks like. By then

984
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: we'll have a good sense of Illinois. The game against

985
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: Michigan at Michigan will be tough. They beat Michigan last year,

986
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: they beat them. Yeah, I think we're likely looking at

987
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: an eight and fourteen.

988
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: All right, Wisconsin, give it to me, Give me the

989
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: Wisconsin reality here. Okay, five and seven year ago, the

990
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: over unders five and a half again.

991
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: I like so much of what Wisconsin has done to

992
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: address what has been ailing them. I like how aggressive

993
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: they were in the portal. I like that. Even if

994
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 2: we're not crazy about Billy Edwards, he's pretty good. He's

995
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: like a legit Big ten quarterback with legit Big ten upside.

996
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: They didn't have that these past couple of years. TVD

997
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: and Braden Locke whatever. So I think the receivers are okay.

998
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: I think they can find answers among skill position players.

999
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: I think they did enough to address what they needed upfront.

1000
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: Very aggressive going for defensive linemen.

1001
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: Really aggressive. There's something like five four stars that they

1002
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: got in the transfer portal, so they were they were

1003
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: very aggressive. They knew that they needed to get better

1004
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: there and they did.

1005
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: There's experience and quality in the secondary, especially at corner.

1006
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: There's just there's a lot to say that like, Wisconsin's

1007
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: a candidate to look more organized and just of higher

1008
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: quality in the Big Ten.

1009
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: And then you look at the schedule and you're like, well,

1010
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: it'd be the toughest schedule in America.

1011
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: It may be because they have what Alabama men Tuscaloosa

1012
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: early on, and just the hits just keep on coming

1013
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: with the way that this schedule is laid out in

1014
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: the Big Ten.

1015
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: So at Alabama, they're also at Michigan, Michigan coming off

1016
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: of bye. They're home against Iowa, Iowa coming off of bye,

1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: home against Ohio State on the road at Oregon. By

1018
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: the way, those four games are back to back to

1019
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: back to back. Then after a bye, Washington coming to

1020
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: town but also off of bye at Indiana home against Illinois.

1021
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: They close out the year rivalry game against Minnesota. Yeah,

1022
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: that's really tough, dude, really tough.

1023
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do, Like, you're gonna need

1024
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: to score. You might like Jeff Grimes. You might love

1025
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: Jeff Grimes.

1026
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Grime.

1027
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: He's got to get to thirty five points a lot

1028
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: with this offense, because I think the defense will be okay,

1029
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: but it's not going to be where Wisconsin's defense was.

1030
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean they this is another team that's got

1031
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get some pressure on the quarterback.

1032
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: They had seventy sacks all of last season, which was

1033
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: the fewest they've had since nineteen eighty three. So going

1034
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: hard at defensive line that was very much necessary, and

1035
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: I think to your point, they did a good job there.

1036
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: They knew the assignment, they understanding, Yes, I think, yeah

1037
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: and yeah, so they at least attempted to address it.

1038
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: They were self aware enough to know where they needed

1039
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: to fix something. But the bigger issue for me is

1040
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: they've had an identity crisis the last two years and

1041
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: they got to figure out a way to find themselves

1042
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: against what might be the toughest schedule in the country,

1043
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: which is not an easy task. The biggest issue I

1044
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: think they've had is that they tried to install the

1045
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: air raid or some version of it under Phil long

1046
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: Go and it never clicked. And also that is kind

1047
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: of incompatible with what we know of Wisconsin over all

1048
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: these years. They've never been that kind of team.

1049
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: Well, and just how they've recruited, what their reputation is

1050
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: in the Midwest, or how they've recruited it offensive linemen

1051
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: tight ends, they didn't use the tight end.

1052
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not that.

1053
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: So the offense took a pretty big step back in

1054
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: year one. It was the ninety ninth best offense per

1055
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: the sp plus last season, and now they're going in

1056
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: a different direction with Jeff Grimes as the offensive coordinator,

1057
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: which is going to be more pro style, more of

1058
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 1: the downhill running stuff that Wisconsin is known for, which

1059
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I think is it's like, it's very wise to shift

1060
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: back to this another instance, another example of them kind

1061
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: of understanding where they're at, being self aware enough to like,

1062
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: all right, let's pump the brakes a little bit and

1063
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: go in a different direction. So I think, schematically and

1064
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I think via the portal, what Wisconsin did was very smart.

1065
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure how it looks now because of

1066
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: the schedule, you know. Like I like Dylan Jones, their

1067
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: red shirt freshman running back. I think you could do

1068
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: well in this scheme. I like Billy Edwards. I like

1069
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: the fact that Billy Edwards is not a statue like

1070
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: the guys who came before him, with Tanner, Mordecai and

1071
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: TVD and rate in lock like nothing against those guys.

1072
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Billy Edwards is a different kind of quarterback who I

1073
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: think fits better with this scheme. Okay, I just don't

1074
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: know how much better they get as a result of it,

1075
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know how it looks now because the

1076
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: schedule is so brutal. That's my issue here.

1077
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: Look, if they don't win that Maryland game with the

1078
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: Billy Edwards narrative, that's it man. And that game is

1079
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: in Madison, Yes, but that's coming off of an Alabama

1080
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: road trip. They get a bye before Michigan, but so

1081
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: does Michigan. Iowa gets a buye before Wisconsin.

1082
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: As it's four teams off by. I think, yeah, three

1083
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: teams off by in the Big Ten.

1084
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: It's a tough one too for Ohio State, you know,

1085
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: on the road two weeks, the first week being Illinois

1086
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: before they play against Wisconsin. I just yeah, it's just brutal.

1087
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: We had this situation too often last year where we're

1088
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: looking at this team and I you know, the quarterback

1089
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: thing was a mess, but we're looking at Wisconsin and

1090
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: we're saying they got no shot. And I think that's

1091
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: really what sticks in the crawl if you're a Wisconsin fan.

1092
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Because this is again a proud program. They won a

1093
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: lot of games. They definitely benefit benefited from being in

1094
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: the Big Ten West for a number of years.

1095
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

1096
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: But still we were used to.

1097
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Seeing this team play in high leverage situations and you're

1098
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule all too often last year, especially

1099
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: down the stretch, thinking to yourself, they ain't got no shot.

1100
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: No shot.

1101
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: So hopefully they get past that. They can graduate past that,

1102
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: because they're going to have an opportunity against a bunch

1103
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: of big guns.

1104
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: This year and they you know what, they didn't perform

1105
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: terribly against the best teams on their schedule last year.

1106
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: TVD got hurt in the Alabama game, and they still

1107
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: weren't going to likely keep it all that close against Bama. No,

1108
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: they were competitive. This is the big ass risk. They

1109
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: were competitive with Penn State for a chunk of that game. Yes, right,

1110
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: I'd rather a team be competitive for a chunk than

1111
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: not be competitive for a chunk. They took Oregon to

1112
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 2: the gun at home, and they were up on at halftime. Again,

1113
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: you got to play four quarters of good football. I

1114
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: happen to believe that Luke Fickle's a really good coach,

1115
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 2: And I happen to believe really good coaches are good

1116
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: at diagnosing and fixing and admitting when things didn't go

1117
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: the way they thought they would and pivoting. And I

1118
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to work out for Luke

1119
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: Fickle at Wisconsin, but I feel pretty decently about Luke

1120
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: Fickles's ability to figure things out, and they're throwing money

1121
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: behind the roster. Hopefully that makes a difference in terms

1122
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 2: of what their final schedule looks like. But at least

1123
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: that's a nice starting point for Wisconsin.

1124
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1125
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: Look, I totally agree. I just I come back to

1126
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: what we saw last year, and I'm just crazy curious

1127
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: to see if we take a step forward now, both

1128
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: along the defensive line and with the offense. Because I'm

1129
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: looking at some of these losses from last season, the

1130
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: Alabama loss Penn State law US, the loss at Iowa,

1131
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: the loss at home to close out the season against Minnesota.

1132
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Postgame win expectancy on all of those games was zero percent. Yeah,

1133
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: so even if there were moments where the game was close,

1134
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: if you run what they did through the simulator a

1135
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: million times, simulator ain't having it. They're saying, basically, Wisconsin

1136
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: wasn't close when all was said and done in those games.

1137
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: They got to improve upon that. They got to improve

1138
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: upon that. I hope they did it this year. I'm

1139
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: not rooting against them. I'm gonna say six and six.

1140
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, five and seven, six and six is where I

1141
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: am What what was the name the assistant coach who

1142
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: went to Notre Dame, the corners coach Mike Mickens. Yes,

1143
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: who found I think he found Sauce Gardner and Kobe Bryant.

1144
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, Kobe Bryant, most recently Leonard Moore. Yeah.

1145
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: So could he just like pass a note to Luke

1146
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: Pickle and just say.

1147
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: Like, hey, a messenger, Pigel.

1148
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're not taking these corners at Notre Dame,

1149
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: but like these guys are worth it, man, I mean,

1150
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: corner's not the issue this year.

1151
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: All right, we got four teams left, all right, where

1152
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: are we going? We're at like an hour.

1153
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this.

1154
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: It's do Minnesota.

1155
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Two and a half hours of big ten content coming

1156
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: your way.

1157
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: Let's do Minnesota here, all right. You might be surprised

1158
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: to hear that I'm again high on Minnesota. I do

1159
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: it every year. I do this to myself.

1160
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: I have no It's a tough case this year, I admitted,

1161
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: and I'm I think they're dependably pretty good. It's a

1162
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 2: tough case this year.

1163
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: I am doing this to myself this year. I have

1164
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: no one to blame but myself. Like I said in

1165
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Part one, I look forward to commiserating six months from

1166
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: now after another four or five lost season for Minnesota.

1167
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: That's just the way this thing goes. But I'm saying

1168
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: this again because I did actually do this. I did

1169
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: preschedule the zoom call for December, the Minnesota Football Support Zoom.

1170
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: All are welcome to join email Solid Verbal at gmail

1171
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: dot com. I will set it up so you get

1172
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: an invite like eight hours before it goes off. I

1173
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: am one hundred percent serious about this because this is

1174
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: more for me than it is for you. I'm gonna

1175
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: need this level of support because they're gonna do this

1176
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: to me again. I know it.

1177
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: You're just gonna talk to people about mo Ebraham. What

1178
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: are you gonna talk about all?

1179
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna talk about Drake Lindsay's what

1180
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do.

1181
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay, continue six.

1182
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota is the butt also team of the Big Ten

1183
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: because the team has to some degree underachieved. Yes, but

1184
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: also the culture seems like it's really strong and it's

1185
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: generally a stable program. Yeah.

1186
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: Is PJ flex still doing the like rewards? What wasn't

1187
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: that a thing in the locker room? He like gives

1188
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: out like elite points.

1189
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: I gotta believe.

1190
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: So, I mean that there's not there's there's not like

1191
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,959
Speaker 1: a goofy, highbrow concept that well still an elite day

1192
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: is above PJ. Fleck, He's game for all of it.

1193
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: But like good culture, they I think this year figure

1194
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: to fly a bit under the radar. But they're also

1195
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: okay with being a sleeper team. I think that suits

1196
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: them in the culture that they've built. I think it's

1197
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: an offense it's gonna look different, but also one that's

1198
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: got enough pieces back to still be pretty intriguing. And

1199
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: it is a team with a lot of questions to

1200
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: your point, but also they've got a pretty good schedule.

1201
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: That's true.

1202
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: So which side of the corner are you on here?

1203
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: I know where I'm at. Where are you at?

1204
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm decently high on Minnesota overall, Like you said, they

1205
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: get Purdue, they get Rutgers, whatever you think of Rutgers.

1206
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: They get Michigan State, and they get Northwestern. It's pretty

1207
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: good in terms of what they can get. Yeah, obviously

1208
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: they get Wisconsin ut of the year, we'll see where

1209
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: the Badgers are there. They miss Penn State and Michigan,

1210
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: I believe, but get Oregon, Iowa, Ohio State's tough threesome.

1211
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: It's tough.

1212
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult variable team. To me that like, Okay,

1213
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: we're working in a new defensive coordinator, like a new

1214
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: defensive line, a new quarterback. We'll see at running back,

1215
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talent at running back new Like

1216
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: when Minnesota is working in two new lines and a

1217
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator and a new quarterback, it tells me, yes,

1218
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: they're a bowl team, but they're probably gonna lose a

1219
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: game or two that they wouldn't ordinarily lose. So I meant,

1220
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm in like a seven and five zone

1221
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: with Minnesota.

1222
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: The offensive side of the ball is where you have

1223
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: the questions, and there are a couple of reasons for it.

1224
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: The first is you lose Daniel Jackson out wide. It

1225
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: leads a pretty big hole and not an easy one

1226
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: that they're going to fill. Obvious questions. I do like

1227
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: the running back room as well, Darius Taylor, he's back.

1228
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 3: However, this is a rushing attack.

1229
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Last season one hundred and twenty ninth in yards before contact. Yeah,

1230
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: so there wasn't of the line.

1231
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: Good running back, not a good rushing attack.

1232
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: Not a good rushing attack, So I do think the

1233
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: line's going to be better, but that you know, they

1234
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 1: got to fix that. They got to get some push

1235
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: up there. And then third, maybe I should have brought

1236
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: this up first. Is Drake Lindsay the new quarterback, six five,

1237
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: two thirties, a big kid, red shirt freshman. The measurables,

1238
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: I think the arm talent are all there. The experience

1239
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: is definitely not. He's thrown something like five college passes,

1240
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: so it's been a minute since Minnesota had anything going

1241
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: explosively on the passing side of the offense. They were

1242
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty third in the nation there last year.

1243
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: The hope is that he can take the torch from

1244
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: Max Brosmer and build upon whatever.

1245
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: Can only build on. It can't get much worse in

1246
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: terms of passing the ball downfield.

1247
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Listen, Max Brosmer, to his credit, finished very strongly last season,

1248
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: so perhaps they can build on some of that momentum

1249
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: and Drake Lindsay can take the baton and they can

1250
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: keep going forward. But again there are real questions there.

1251
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: I feel better about the defense. There are losses on

1252
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: that side of the ball as well, including Corey Heathman,

1253
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: the coordinator went down to Miami but that they're promoting

1254
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: from within, there's enough back from like a top fifteen

1255
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: caliber defense. Again, I think they should be pretty good.

1256
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: Koy Parish at safety is ridiculous. I like him a lot.

1257
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: So there's stuff here that I think you can build upon,

1258
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: but yet questions. But also they are the but also team.

1259
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: But also the seven and a half win total is

1260
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: something you look at. Given this schedule. You do mention

1261
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: the games at Ohio State, Iowa, Oregon, Nebraska mixed in there.

1262
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: Those are kind of the four big ones. But Michigan

1263
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: State could be interesting. Wisconsin for the rivalry, could be interesting.

1264
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: Week one game against your Buffalo Bulls could be interesting.

1265
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: Who knows, very interesting. Yeah, I think barring.

1266
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: A disaster some kind of like transcendent performance by Drake

1267
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: Lindsay or one of those two extremes. Yeah, it's a

1268
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: seven or eight win team. That's right, seven or eight

1269
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: win team. But I like Drake Lindsay and I'm excited

1270
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: to see what they can do with Darius Taylor this

1271
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: year because I think they need to rely a little

1272
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: bit more upon him until Drake Lindsey gets it figured out.

1273
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, fair enough.

1274
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: I'll go over eight over eight over with eight wins, oh, okay,

1275
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: eight and four Minnesota, I'm seven to five. Okay, Michigan State.

1276
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Give me the lowdown in Michigan State.

1277
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 2: Got a lot of work to do, got a lot

1278
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: of work to do. Aiden Childs at times was very

1279
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: fun and interesting and at times he threw the ball

1280
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: to teams not wearing the same uniform that he was

1281
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: wearing last year. I think he's intriguing. I think there

1282
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: is a decent amount to like about the receiver group.

1283
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: Running the ball was tough, the lines were tough last year.

1284
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: They return a bunch in the secondary. It's just one

1285
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: of those like prove it years from this defense, specifically

1286
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: for me, for Michigan State to feel all that good

1287
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: about Michigan State. I think the offense will improve. I

1288
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: think the identity will improve. They made highers, it seems

1289
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: on offense. So it's just I think it's uh was

1290
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: it Brian Lindgren who came over for Michigan's to help

1291
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: run the offense with Jonathan Smith. I think that'll keep

1292
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: working nicely when they're not turning the ball over. So

1293
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm decently high on Michigan State. I'm just I'm gonna

1294
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: need to see it like the Highs were at least

1295
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: something right. The Highs basically are limited to that Iowa

1296
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: game last year. It's a talent thing right.

1297
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Now, it is. But you know, they did raise the

1298
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: floor with transfers. I hope, albeit smaller school. We've kind

1299
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: of said that the last like four years of Mission

1300
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: State though smaller school guys. But I think they can

1301
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: improve upon the offensive line. And I think if anybody

1302
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 1: can get the most out of these guys, it's someone

1303
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: like Jonathan Smith, who's been a proven program builder. That's

1304
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: why they hired him. Right, It is not a certainty

1305
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: that any of these guys are pop are going to pop,

1306
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: so it's always a risk anytime you go into the portal.

1307
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: But I think he has raised the floor there. I

1308
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: think the defense can make things interesting. They did lose

1309
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: four of their five top tacklers. Yeah, definitely that hurts.

1310
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: But the upside I think is there because there were

1311
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: injuries last season, you just got more people experience, so

1312
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: the depth I looks better to me, I believe. I

1313
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: saw they brought a nine defensive line transfers so great

1314
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: that have to know it's not great, but upfront it's

1315
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: a question of can they generate a pass rush. I

1316
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: feel like a broken record here, I'm talking about that

1317
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: with all these teams. They didn't do that at all

1318
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: last season, but they're at least trying again. They were

1319
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: self aware enough to know where they need to improve,

1320
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: and we'll see if they can do it offensively, they

1321
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: will at least be interesting, right like Aiden Childs Nick Marsh.

1322
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: If nothing more, they've got those two guys. Nick Marsh

1323
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: point YEP set freshman records last season for receptions and

1324
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: receiving yards aid and Child's. The best of Aiden Childs, yes,

1325
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: is very exciting. The worst of him was leading the

1326
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: Big Ten per our friends over at PFF with twenty

1327
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: turnover worthy plays, last.

1328
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: Interceptible balls or fumble leave yes moment, Yes, so yes.

1329
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: They got to iron that out against a tough schedule

1330
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: like at USC, at Nebraska, at Indiana, at Minnesota, at

1331
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: Iowa excuse me, also Michigan and Penn State both at home.

1332
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: It's a very difficult path to get to a bowl.

1333
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: So if they're going to do it, they got to

1334
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: start three to zero against Western Michigan, against Boston College,

1335
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: against Youngstown. Then they got to pick up three along

1336
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the way here, like Maryland's probably beatable,

1337
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: but they're.

1338
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: A UCLA at home Ucla. But even that one's not obvious.

1339
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: Obvious. Yeah, yeah, it's a week after UCLA plays Penn State.

1340
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 3: Though, if you.

1341
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: Believe Michigan State is a bowl team, you're buying some

1342
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: sort of second year boost from Jonathan Smith that maybe

1343
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: isn't showing up on paper right now.

1344
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: You just I don't know how you can think anything

1345
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: extreme about Michigan State in any one direction when they

1346
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: just have added so many different players at key spots.

1347
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: So you really have to buy into another full season

1348
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: of development in Aiden Schilds being a game changer, having

1349
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: a nice connection with the receiver and given enough time,

1350
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: they have one of the best offensive line coaches in

1351
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: the country. But they're bringing in this dude from wherever

1352
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: Montana State and this dude from Wake four is just like,

1353
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: I hope it all jels, I hope it all works out.

1354
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: It's more new again. They lose a bunch of starters

1355
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: who didn't contribute a ton to actual winning football. They

1356
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: were good players in different respects, but this was not

1357
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: a nine win roster last year, and they're hoping that

1358
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: a lot of changes means a lot more wins.

1359
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: We've got UCLA and Rutgers left. Let me give you

1360
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: my brief tiede die tribe on UCLA, and then you

1361
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: can take it and you can tell me where I'm

1362
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: right wrong. Okay, Ucla is my Iceberg team of the

1363
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten, and by that I mean only ten percent.

1364
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: Ten percent of UCLA right now is in the headlines,

1365
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: and that's Nico right. The other ninety percent no one's

1366
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: talking about. But getting Niekh this offseason, clearly, I think

1367
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: an upgrade a quarterback. That's gonna be the thing that

1368
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about. And I do think he'll make them

1369
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: better at the quarterback position. The problem is the other

1370
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: ninety percent, what you don't get from the headlines, and

1371
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: from my vantage point, that's their worse everywhere else. Yeah,

1372
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: they're worse everywhere else. They had thirty five guys. Thirty

1373
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: five guys leave the team from last season. Though they

1374
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: did have some momentum at the end of last year,

1375
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: it's basically a new team. Yeah, this looks like an

1376
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: unproven offense. To me, it looks like a rebuilding defense.

1377
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: We've got the pretty packaging of Nico Ia Maliava, which

1378
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: again will make them better in some respects, but I'm

1379
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: just not digging it. Tino Sensei coming over from Indiana,

1380
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: I like, I'm okay with that. And I do like

1381
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: some of their young talent Javian Thomas, the running back

1382
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: they got from cal and Carson Cox, Quasi Gilmer at

1383
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I like some of the pieces here, but

1384
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm just not buying it. Very headline worthy to get

1385
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: a guy like Anico, But then if you look a

1386
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: little bit below the surface, it's a worst team with

1387
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: a brutal schedule that doesn't have the supporting cast.

1388
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 2: It's a real tough schedule, and I think you just

1389
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: like to know what are they going to do? Definitively, Well,

1390
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: they're going to run the ball, well, this.

1391
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: Is me shrugging. This is me shrugging, Dan, I don't

1392
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: know what are they going to do well.

1393
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't think you can count on anything because I

1394
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: don't think the line play is going to be all

1395
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 2: that high on either side of the ball. They've upgraded

1396
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback, but it's not like we're dealing with the

1397
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: situation where Tennessee fans were thrilled with year one of

1398
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: the Nico experience at the end of the season, they weren't,

1399
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: and so I just hope for his sake a fresh

1400
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: start works out and he is, you know, as a

1401
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: really interesting second act. Yeah, I just don't think the

1402
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: talent level is there. They're not recruiting in a way

1403
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: that's crazy impressive. The portal hasn't been crazy impressive, and

1404
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: like you said, the schedule is going to be tough.

1405
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: I like that they were quick to make that move

1406
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: to Tino Sensei after just whiffing on right time, right

1407
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: place with their first coordinator hire, hiring Eric Penemy in

1408
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 2: that moment, as like Deshaun Foster was late to the

1409
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: job because of the timing of Chip Kelly Leeve. It

1410
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: just it was a total rebuilding job. Was not the

1411
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: right move. It was quickly apparent. So I liked that

1412
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: they did that quickly. It's going to take a minute.

1413
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: It's going to take a minute. And by all accounts,

1414
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: Nico is a really good teammate. That's been written about,

1415
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: people have reported that out ever since he got to Tennessee.

1416
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: By all accounts, he's a very good teammate. Now, clearly

1417
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: whatever went down at Tennessee does not reflect kindly on

1418
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: him or his team. But I am not buying this

1419
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: idea that he wanted to go somewhere else to get

1420
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: a supporting a better supporting cast. You know, that's kind

1421
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: of the rumor out there that while you wanted to

1422
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: go somewhere because Nico's dad went to a job hypel and

1423
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: said he needs a better supporting cast. And this is

1424
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: not a better supporting cast. It isn't it's a worse team.

1425
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: It was a team who would have him.

1426
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: Absolutely, He's not getting paid as much and the guys

1427
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: around him aren't as good, right, So I am not

1428
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: buying this notion that he went to a better situation.

1429
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: It's not a better situation. He makes the situation at

1430
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: quarterback better, but the situation for him if he's trying

1431
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: to get to the pros, if he's trying to be

1432
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: a better quarterback. There are a lot of worts on

1433
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: this team still, they're still trying to put this thing together.

1434
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: So not rooting against him, but that's just the reality

1435
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: as I see it.

1436
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: Are they a ball team? No, I think they can be.

1437
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: I think they're in that five and seven, six and six.

1438
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have a late conversation about whether

1439
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: they can squeeze into something.

1440
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Squeeze into something, all right, close it out with Rutgers.

1441
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: You're Rutgers, Scarlet Knights, you love Runners this year, you're

1442
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: in on Rutgers.

1443
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: This is a vibes thing more than anything. I don't

1444
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: love where they are at quarterback. I like that they're

1445
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: passing it a little bit more so, they're a little

1446
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: bit more unpredictable. But no kyleman on, guy, what did you.

1447
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: Kill a monster?

1448
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 2: The heel of monster? Yeah?

1449
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: How dare you forget the heel of monster?

1450
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 2: Defense took a big old step back last year, lost

1451
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator.

1452
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 3: Rob Smith is back.

1453
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: Though Rob Smith is back, has experienced in this conference,

1454
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: some of it good, some of it not so good,

1455
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: a ton of transfers on defense. This is much more

1456
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: a vibe of like, this team may not be good,

1457
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: but I think they're good enough to get in somebody's

1458
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: head and win a couple games.

1459
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: This team may not have a good record, but they

1460
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: are better than they were last year, and I think

1461
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: it may not show because the schedule is brilli right.

1462
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: I expected more from Rutgers last season. I think Rutgers

1463
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: expected more from Rutgers last season. That sure, it seemed

1464
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: like it was set up for them to have a

1465
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: better year. But now they go into this season, this

1466
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: schedule's murder and still it's I hope it's a situation.

1467
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: I suspect it's the situation where they're going to give

1468
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: Siano as much time as he wants. Sure, because it's

1469
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 1: going to be a slow build this year. The steam

1470
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: is on offense, even after losing the heel Monster. There's

1471
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: a good deal of optimism around Atheen caliak manis back

1472
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Yeah, they want to throw it a little

1473
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: bit more, but I think the interior of the offensive

1474
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: line is pretty good. I'm curious to see what happens though,

1475
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: as they try to like shift the focus from a

1476
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: very run heavy offense to I'm just I'm like, I'm

1477
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: still not all the way in. On Aphan caliak manis,

1478
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: I believe they call him the Greek rifle. I believe

1479
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: that's the nickname that some have chosen for him. Not

1480
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: going to buy that until I see it.

1481
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 2: They were scoring points second half of last year. There

1482
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: were scoring points. They were not far off in a

1483
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: number of games. The UCLA game, the Nebraska game, yes,

1484
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,440
Speaker 2: like they were competitive.

1485
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: I still think the meat of this offense is going

1486
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: to be on the ground. Okay, that's my expectation. And yeah,

1487
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: I mean a ton of transfers. Rob Smith's work is

1488
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: going to be cut out for him on defense, and

1489
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: I think that's where the push pull comes into play

1490
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: with the offense, you know, like I think they're probably

1491
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: worse in defense, not like seventieth in the nation worst,

1492
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: but maybe average. You can say you want to air

1493
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: it out more because you like your quarterback and receivers,

1494
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,879
Speaker 1: but the quarterback is definitely not the world's most efficient passer.

1495
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: And if you're not smart with the play calling, that's

1496
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: how you hang your defense out to dry. Like it

1497
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: all kind of is connected here. So I like Shiano

1498
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: as a coach. I think he's done a really good

1499
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: job here. The over unders five and a half. I'm

1500
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: going under. I can maybe get to five ors six,

1501
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: but it requires an upset over a team like in Iowa,

1502
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: a minnesot a, Washington. Two of those games are away,

1503
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: I'll say five and seven Rutgers, Okay, five and seven.

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Speaker 2: It's a look ahead city program. They get everybody a

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Speaker 2: week before. Really teams get others, and there is something

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Speaker 2: fair or unfair about Rutgers reputation of like, it's just

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Speaker 2: Rutgers whatever, Right, who are they gonna dump?

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Speaker 1: Then? Which which team are they gonna dump?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. Oregon gets Rutgers a week wells

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Speaker 2: that's before Wisconsin. But other than Oregon, Rutgers gets Iowa

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Speaker 2: the week before Iowa plays Indiana. Rutgers gets Minnesota the

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Speaker 2: week before Minnesota plays Ohio State. Rutgers gets Washington the

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Speaker 2: week before Washington goes to Michigan. Rutgers gets uh Illinois

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Speaker 2: the week that's a week before or By. Rutgers gets

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Speaker 2: Maryland the week before they get Illinois on the road.

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Speaker 2: Rutgers gets Ohio eight the week before Ohio State plays Michigan.

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Speaker 2: So there is a like if it's the.

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Speaker 1: Penn State the week after Penn State plays Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's an after that's a letdown spot. But

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of look ahead potential on here. That's

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Speaker 2: why I said on I don't know if it was

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Speaker 2: episode one or two. I was like, Oregon's not losing

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Speaker 2: the Rutgers, but this voice tone suggests I don't know

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Speaker 2: that game is in New Jersey I believe. Yeah it

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Speaker 2: is after the Indiana game. You want to come in

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Speaker 2: for that one?

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Speaker 1: We can drive over No, Like I told you, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I could easily drive to Oregon, Iowa one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: will not. I'm not driving, you know, eight and a

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Speaker 2: half hours round trip or whatever it takes to watch

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Speaker 2: a scary game as an Oregon fan. So I'm always

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Speaker 2: for traveling to New Jersey, but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I can do that. We are done with the Big ten.

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Speaker 2: We're done with a Big ten.

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Speaker 1: All eighteen teams. Go back and listen if you missed

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Speaker 1: any of those previews. As always right in, let us

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01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: know what we got right, what we got wrong. We've

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01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: had people chiming in left and right about all things

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, giving us feedback, letting us know where we're at.

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Speaker 1: I think for the most part, we're pretty good. We've

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Speaker 1: done okay Colorado people always have issue with what we

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Speaker 1: have to say. That's okay.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate everybody's feedback.

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01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 2: To be there next week.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be there.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be in Colorado. Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 2: bachelor party.

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Speaker 3: I think as people are listening maybe to.

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Speaker 1: One of these episodes, you'll probably be in Colorado since

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Speaker 1: we're recording a little bit of an advance. So yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Great, we'll have a good time. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Do report back on the food situation in Denver.

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Speaker 2: I always will.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear more on that, and yeah verballerhood,

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Speaker 1: weigh in, comments, emails, soliverbot gmail dot com. All that

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: stuff is greatly appreciated if you are out there on discord.

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: We have a podcast discussion channel where people can weigh

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: in about things they hear on the show here and

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: argue with us if they want to.

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Speaker 2: I love that. We're very active on there now.

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Speaker 1: We have too much of that going on, but we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people chiming in about things we

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Speaker 1: have to say and talking amongst themselves. So if that's

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Speaker 1: something you're into, that's one of the many things we

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Speaker 1: offer out It for Ballers dot com, v E R

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Speaker 1: B A L L e r s dot com the

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Speaker 1: best way singularly to support what Dan and I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of people on this discord who

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Speaker 2: are into your Romaine joke.

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Speaker 3: You're yeah, better than I expected. I'm gonna be hot.

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Speaker 2: If that's you, you can be amongst your people.

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Speaker 1: Come be amongst the people for that guy over there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brand,

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Speaker 1: for this big old conference. Eighteen teams in the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten that are now officially in the books here in

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Speaker 1: previous season. We will catch you all next episode. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, as always, stay solid, peace,