WEBVTT - He's Mumbling Into His Jello

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and Jetty and

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<v Speaker 2>he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first time ever, you can now buy a

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<v Speaker 3>car directly on Amazon. The only hiccup is that, since

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<v Speaker 3>it's Amazon, your car would be delivered in four thousand

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<v Speaker 3>separate packets.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet that might be the future of buying cars.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Tesla started that. Some states outlawed it, which

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<v Speaker 1>was awful. The idea of selling cars without a dealership.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you need a dealership?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? No, No, and so you Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>You just go online, you pick what kind of car

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<v Speaker 1>you want, everything like that, and it shows up at

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<v Speaker 1>your house. You got problems, you take it to a

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<v Speaker 1>local place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just in case you're not familiar with that.

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<v Speaker 4>The car dealers in various states, mostly Blue states, but

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<v Speaker 4>not entirely bribe their legislatures that said no, it's dangerous

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<v Speaker 4>to let people just buy a car directly. Say you

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<v Speaker 4>never know what will happen. Is even bitter outlaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's fifty thousand dollars for your next campaign. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you do need a dealership. I don't know, but the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of outlawing is crazy. But so Amazon selling cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there you go, that is interesting. Huh. I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to look into that.

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<v Speaker 4>So a couple of notes about the transition, foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not of any great significance. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Anytime I want to bring up the Biden administration what

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing, I feel like, I don't know, I'm railing

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<v Speaker 4>against last year's teacher or something in school.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the past. It almost doesn't matter except it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And trust me when I say this, because I've studied

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<v Speaker 2>this my whole life. Joe Biden is still the president.

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<v Speaker 4>He still has the powers of the presidency, and they've

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<v Speaker 4>been walking around crowing about the fall of the Assad regime,

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<v Speaker 4>talking about well, Biden put out a statement the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>Well his people did, he did. He's mumbling into his

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<v Speaker 4>jello right now. Our approached them to his jell.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Our approach has shifted the balance of power in the

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<v Speaker 4>Middle East. Through this combination of support for our partners,

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<v Speaker 4>sanctions and diplomacy, and targeted military force when necessary, we

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<v Speaker 4>now see new opportunities opening for the people of Syria

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<v Speaker 4>and the entire regime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like they drew it.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, writes the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 4>and Jake Sullivan talking about our unflagging support for our

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<v Speaker 4>allies in the region.

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<v Speaker 2>How unflagging? They point out that Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>All of Israel's success in defeating Hamas and Hesba Llah

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<v Speaker 4>and now knocking Iran seriously onto its heels, and Assad's

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<v Speaker 4>houstle regime falling, all of it was because directly because

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<v Speaker 4>Israel ignored the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in the Bob Woodward book Wars, I

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<v Speaker 1>went through the part where I forget which leader it

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<v Speaker 1>was Israel assassinated. Remember they assassinated one of those high

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<v Speaker 1>level Homas dudes in Tehran, and Biden went ape s

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with Netan Yahoo, according to Woodward's books,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming at him.

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<v Speaker 2>You efing a hole, You effing a hole. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what you've done?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the unwavering support. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They listed off, blah blah blah blah bah.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Biden worked tard even blocking weapons to stop Israel

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<v Speaker 4>from taking the fight to Hesbola. Even after eleven months

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<v Speaker 4>of Hebola attacks, Biden argued that Israeli self defense would

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<v Speaker 4>risk escalating into a regional war. He pushed a ceasefire

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<v Speaker 4>that would have left hesbel at the height of its powers.

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<v Speaker 4>Biden officials were furious Jack when Israel instead blew up

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<v Speaker 4>his Bolla's pagers and took out its leader, Hassan Isralla.

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<v Speaker 4>But now they congratulate themselves for a policy that, in

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<v Speaker 4>Biden's words quote made it impossible for a Ran and

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<v Speaker 4>has blood to continue to prop up the Asad regime. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>that's beyond revisionist history. I mean, that's just writing a novel,

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<v Speaker 4>rss fiction. Here's a headline for you. Days after Trump's victory,

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<v Speaker 4>Biden Harris administration granted Iran ten billion dollars in sanctions relief,

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<v Speaker 4>according to a Congressional committee.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>About all this and intriguing and I'm waiting to see

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<v Speaker 4>how it plays out. Tulsey Gabbard was staunchly, vehemently against

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<v Speaker 4>virtually every policy of Trump's first term, including those that

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<v Speaker 4>worked out beautifully, that were bold, brilliant, decisive.

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<v Speaker 2>He's praised practically universally for them. She is Bernie Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>On defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It was harshly critical of Trump and praised USD a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and went and met with him and John Bolton, Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>national security advisor, for a while. John Bolton on TV

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<v Speaker 1>the the other day said, they're going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the archives there in Syria, and we may find out

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<v Speaker 1>that Tulsi Gabbard was on the payroll. Well, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a high a thing the same from another, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet member of Trump's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bolton's a bit of a bomb chucker, both literally

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<v Speaker 2>and figuratively. I'll be curious to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing about Tulsi is she is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the kremlins most effective spokespeople. She is way, way cooperative.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a star of Russian TV. They were on clips

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<v Speaker 4>of her all the time. I also State run TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I also know a lot of you Magna people love her.

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<v Speaker 1>I read social media. She's believed by a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I am aware of that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's that's why I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>so interesting to see play out. How do they square

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<v Speaker 4>that circle, as they say, rectify those conflicts as Trump

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<v Speaker 4>even aware of them. Is it just because she switched

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<v Speaker 4>sides and kissed his butt?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you she's somebody I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It strikes me as a very very odd choice, but

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<v Speaker 4>we'll just have to see. And this final note on

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<v Speaker 4>the question of transition, foreign policy and stuff. This is

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<v Speaker 4>also from the Journal, but the headline is Biden is

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<v Speaker 4>seding presidential influence to Trump and some Democrats are furious

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<v Speaker 4>and they're talking about how And this was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the basis of my joke that Biden is still a president,

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<v Speaker 4>and I do have to keep reminding myself of that

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<v Speaker 4>in a way, because Trump is, he's in France, he's

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<v Speaker 4>meeting with McCrone, he's got the world leaders, well Trudeau

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<v Speaker 4>flying to mar Lago to beg him for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>his kindness and mercy national.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you said he's the most powerful president elect in

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<v Speaker 1>modern history, without a doubt he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, clearly true.

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<v Speaker 4>He is pulling many, many strings foreign policy, He's already

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<v Speaker 4>dictating trade and immigration policy, has moved rapidly to remake

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<v Speaker 4>the US government. You know all that ridiculous talk about

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<v Speaker 4>on day one, I'm gonna do this on day one,

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<v Speaker 4>and no, on day one, you're gonna go to the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna swear an oath on a Bible and you're

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<v Speaker 4>probably gonna have dinner, right, You're gonna dance a bit

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<v Speaker 4>because you got to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you're gonna do. On day one.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Trump appears to be, I mean, really getting his

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<v Speaker 4>troops in order. Some of his troops are odd choices

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<v Speaker 4>again in my opinion, but he's absolutely taken the lame

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<v Speaker 4>duck by its scrawny neck and tossed it aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the political article that I never got to that

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<v Speaker 1>came out over the weekend where even Democrats, unnamed sources

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House feel like Joe Biden's not the

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<v Speaker 1>president anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're even like we're over.

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<v Speaker 1>It so.

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<v Speaker 2>Partially because he's so out of it all our institutione

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<v Speaker 2>uh huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I think it's yet another proof of how

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<v Speaker 4>just stupidiculous the hole he's hitler we'll never have another election,

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<v Speaker 4>talk was I hope the young people of America see

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<v Speaker 4>this and grocket they figure it out. They won't a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them, But dudes and dudets, do you see

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<v Speaker 4>how willing they are to say wild eyed, crazy stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't mean even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Just file that away for the next election. Please.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of the lamest of lame ducks. We've

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<v Speaker 4>seen with a democratic administration, a massive missed opportunity, said

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<v Speaker 4>a far left progressive Yahoo who I would hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've got to hope is it nothing giant awful happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday the breaking news we had while we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, Taiwan announcing that China had their biggest military

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<v Speaker 1>exercise going on in decades right off their and that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an exercise can turn into an invasion in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, And who's going to be in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>making decisions on that if we have to decide where

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<v Speaker 1>he coming to Taiwan's eight or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Jake Sullivan's half drunk, Anthony Blinkn's on a beach in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably they're they're like, wait what they did? What?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>What have Trump deal with it?

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<v Speaker 1>God, the eating season is so off to a rough

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<v Speaker 1>start for me at my home. I have currently three

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<v Speaker 1>pies in a giant cheesecake what and I'm really bad

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<v Speaker 1>at like throwing stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you throw out a great homemade dessert? You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta eat the whole thing. No, that's sinful, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>or give it to someone. But I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to interne. I don't know what human garbage disposal

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<v Speaker 2>given to somebody. They're beautiful pies. You can't eat all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Come on now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody texted me the other day as complaining about my situation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not much to complain about, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to watching you on my six hundred pound life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was just gonna say, is the scale had

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with you? Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I was thinking, if you're having trouble finger you're out,

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<v Speaker 4>were to take it?

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<v Speaker 2>Just bring it to work? I could? I could, I might.

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<v Speaker 1>I Actually I think I'm going to offload at least

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<v Speaker 1>one pie tomorrow at work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such only a you problem. I have too many pies, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>That is You're quite right, Katie.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the first time I have ever heard that

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<v Speaker 4>in my several decades on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>You know my problem? I have too many pies. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made it so clear to others what would be

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<v Speaker 1>an easy gift to get me that I would appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it is, because I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about pie. I have a T shirt I

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<v Speaker 1>wear it says I love pie. I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm pretty transparent about this. And yes, the scale

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<v Speaker 1>has talked to me. I'm at a record high.

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<v Speaker 2>What a shock.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I could connect the dots. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do the research and connect the dots if eating

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<v Speaker 1>pie and cheesecake every day now for a week has

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<v Speaker 1>anything to do with them At the highest weight I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if I were you, I wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 2>to leap to anything. Huh ah, I wrong. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get you, though, Katie. Back when the Dead Flowers

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<v Speaker 2>used to play our crazy rock and roll shows, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knew I really liked Tankery Antonics, and so like two

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<v Speaker 2>songs into the show, there'd be half a dozen Tankery

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<v Speaker 2>Atonics on the edge of the stage in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like, you know, it would be rude.

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<v Speaker 4>Drink themselves would have to fight being incoherent. By the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the thing starting them down. That's what I

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<v Speaker 4>keep thinking to myself. If I eat an other piece

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<v Speaker 4>of pie, I'm being poyed. I'm being a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, some of the continuing efforts to make a

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<v Speaker 1>folk here out of this murderous scumbag are absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>In another situation, the guy who got choked to death

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<v Speaker 1>by Daniel Penny making a folk hero out of this dude,

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Among other things, we'll get to this hour. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you can stay here.

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<v Speaker 5>Heyety, definitely know who wins time sexiest alleged murderer of

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<v Speaker 5>the year.

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<v Speaker 3>That would go to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Suspect in the shooting of the CEO of United Healthcare.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's become the hottest cold blooded killer in America. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not sure what this says about us whatever, Since these

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<v Speaker 5>photos of him came out from his holding cell, from

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<v Speaker 5>his mugshot, someone found his abs somewhere online. Ryan Murphy

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<v Speaker 5>right now is flying and Netflix headquarters in a jetpack.

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<v Speaker 2>So many women and so many.

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<v Speaker 5>Men are going nuts over how good looking this killer is.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a huge wave of horny washing over us

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<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Slide one.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the guys you work with says he, I

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<v Speaker 5>had a dream about you last night. When it's the

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<v Speaker 5>FedEx guy with the big muscles and the rolled up sleeves,

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<v Speaker 5>you're like, oh, but if it's the bald it guy

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<v Speaker 5>wearing crocs with black socks, you're on the phone with HR.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, that's actually factually true. Yeah, the whole the

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<v Speaker 1>Killer's Hot thing is well, it's weird, but who did

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<v Speaker 1>originally put it? Like the first picture I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>guy was him shirtless on vacation, ripped like he's Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's the sort of picture you post online. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what people got to access to, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk a little bit more about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>We're close to Christmas, two weeks away. We can't make

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<v Speaker 1>any guarantees, but this is definitely the last day you

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly order something from Armstrong and Getty doc and

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<v Speaker 1>get it in time for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>So jump on the website where you want.

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<v Speaker 1>My son really wills that be feel like, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>could get it, you can get it in time. My

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<v Speaker 1>son really wants some Armstrong in Getty underwear. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>he finds it hilarious to have my name on his

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<v Speaker 1>buttocks or crop wow. Wow wow, we all know what

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<v Speaker 1>underwear is. Oh hey, by the way you you imagine it,

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<v Speaker 1>we will it into existence. Brilliant idea from one of

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<v Speaker 1>our beloved listeners for a Californians against cal Unicornia t shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It now exists at armstrong getty dot com or the

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<v Speaker 1>high end Nita Soodi very popular. Daniel Penny a Freeman

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<v Speaker 1>did his first interview yesterday talking about how it unfolded

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<v Speaker 1>and what it felt like and choking a guy to

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<v Speaker 1>death and the whole thing. So we got that coming

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<v Speaker 1>up and then some of the efforts to make a

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<v Speaker 1>hero out of the guy who got choked to death.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, stay tuned for that. Caitlin Clark was named

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<v Speaker 1>Athlete of the Year by Time Magazine. If you're old,

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<v Speaker 1>you think that means something, perhaps if you're younger than

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eighth?

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<v Speaker 2>What is Time magazine? What is a magazine at all?

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<v Speaker 2>What's a magazine?

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<v Speaker 5>I know?

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<v Speaker 1>I like when they put out online the picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of magazines for people to try to imply

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<v Speaker 1>that the magazine is like still showing up in people's.

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<v Speaker 4>Mailboxes and people are putting on their coffee table to

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<v Speaker 4>read later this week. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weird game we play. I wonder how long

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<v Speaker 1>this lasts. We got to be on the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>of this, I would think. But of course Caitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 1>is the athlete of the year. Who else would be.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the dominant story of the year. But the most

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<v Speaker 1>googled athlete of the year, and I don't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>her name is. I don't even want to look at

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<v Speaker 1>my phone to figure it out. Was the dude that

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<v Speaker 1>trounced all the women in Olympic boxing? That was the

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<v Speaker 1>most googled female athlete of the year, female's athlete of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. As people say, what, there's a guy, the

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<v Speaker 1>trans woman guy beaten up women. Yeah, in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>The Olympics bringing the nations of the world together to

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<v Speaker 4>watch a man punch a woman in the face over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Very excited. But it's okay because he says I'm a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>He actually is one of those people with the rare

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<v Speaker 4>you know, internal testes or whatever. The situation is a rare,

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<v Speaker 4>a fairly rare syndrome that makes you, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of hermaphroditic we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To put in our after we do our four hour

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<v Speaker 1>radio show, we do a podcast called One More Thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't hear on the radio, and you should

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe and check it out and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But too much work, too much, but to being held

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<v Speaker 2>against my will help.

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<v Speaker 1>But today horn Hub put out their list of the

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<v Speaker 1>most searched terms of the year, and it's actually pretty

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and not just in a you know, high school

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<v Speaker 1>locker room sort of way.

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<v Speaker 4>I made a cringey face. I'm not sure I'm comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>enough to uncringe yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise it's kind of interesting. But it'll also be

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<v Speaker 1>somewha with Audrey. So that's where we will put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the One More Thing podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh not safe for work friends, raw content.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Sharpton's one of the worst human beings on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>standing up for the victim. Victim finger quotes of Daniel Penny, stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuned, Armstrong and getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I noticed him at first when he

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<v Speaker 6>came on, you know, And as soon as the doors closed,

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<v Speaker 6>he was carrying a jacket and he whipped the jacket down.

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<v Speaker 6>I was standing and it landed on the feet of

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<v Speaker 6>the passenger sitting down next to me. The zipper made

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<v Speaker 6>a very audible noise. At that point, the train car

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<v Speaker 6>went completely silent, and he starts demanding things. He's demanded

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<v Speaker 6>three different things, you know, certain types of food, certain

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<v Speaker 6>types of drinks, and that he was willing to go

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<v Speaker 6>to jail forever if he didn't get these things. And

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<v Speaker 6>then it kind of escalated. He was saying, he repeated,

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<v Speaker 6>I was going to go to jail for life. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>willing to hurt people. I'm willing to kill people. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in a subway car and a guy gets

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<v Speaker 1>on looking crazy, he yelling he's willing to hurt people.

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<v Speaker 1>He's willing to kill people to get what he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>What unnerved me, that's Daniel Penny, obviously, if he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>following that case at all, who was acquitted this week

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<v Speaker 1>and as a freeman now after he had decided to

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<v Speaker 1>subdue this dude put him in a chokehold. Guy dies,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it became such a national story. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was being charged with what was the worst charge

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<v Speaker 1>he had it before it was dropped. Oh, I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bad though.

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<v Speaker 1>He was gonna he was gonna go to jail for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time if he's found guilty. Let's hear a

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<v Speaker 1>little more from the Daniel Penny interview before we roll alone.

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<v Speaker 6>He was just threatening to kill people. Who's threatening to

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<v Speaker 6>go to jail forever, go to jail for the rest

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<v Speaker 6>of his life. And now where I'm on the ground

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<v Speaker 6>with him, I'm on my back in a very vulnerable position.

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<v Speaker 2>If I just would have let go, now he turns,

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that a vulnerable position?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if I just let him go, I'm on my

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<v Speaker 6>back now he can just turn around and start doing

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<v Speaker 6>what he said to me, So killing, killing, hurting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see, you get a hold of me, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, you let him go, he's gonna kick you

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<v Speaker 1>in the head or punch in the face or who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what. You don't know if he's got lifely at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of you judge. Yeah, I assume she was

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<v Speaker 1>asking that question just to spell it out for her

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<v Speaker 1>viewers or right. Yeah, anyway, I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>not make this like super dumbed down talk radio thingy,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a complex issue.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked already about the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk tweeted out yesterday a link to a San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco Chronicle article about homeless housing and basically, what a

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<v Speaker 1>disaster the homeless housing thing is in San Francisco, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's the same in New York and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else where. They live in squalor, they fight and kill

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<v Speaker 1>each other, they die of drug overdoses, they get evicted

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<v Speaker 1>for failure to follow the rules, They threat and abuse staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's being like rehabbed or housed or taken off the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>And Elon Musk said, in most cases, the word holmeless

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie. It's usually a propaganda word for violent

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<v Speaker 1>drug addicts with severe mental illness. Well, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the life of mister Neely here in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was all those things that Elon Musk just described.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the people who are very unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>the Penny verdict from yesterday, the New York version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil Liberties Union, this case will forever be a

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<v Speaker 1>symbol of New York's failure to adequately care for people

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<v Speaker 1>with mental health needs and those experiencing homelessness. Okay, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Neely deserved basic human rights, a safe place to live,

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<v Speaker 1>enough to eat, and access to mental health care.

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<v Speaker 2>He should still be alive. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We could go off on that topic of do all

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<v Speaker 1>human beings deserve basic a place to live, enough to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and access to health care?

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<v Speaker 4>Or you need to figure out a way to provide

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<v Speaker 4>that in your life. And I'm pretty sure it was

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<v Speaker 4>a community note. You have the community note to that statement.

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<v Speaker 4>On Twitter, somebody tweeted it out and commented, after Neely

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<v Speaker 4>punched an elderly, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to go through that whole thing, through that whole timeline. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>al shaped all of those things. Is the point he

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<v Speaker 2>was given all of those things?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, even after you get past my question of

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<v Speaker 1>does everybody deserve that provided by the taxpayer? Everyone some

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<v Speaker 1>place to live, something to eat, and healthcare. Okay, Reveren

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<v Speaker 1>now Sharpton. Yesterday, Jordan, I didn't know you. I know

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<v Speaker 1>your aunt, and I've talked to your daddy, and one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I promise is in your name, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>change how they deal with homelessness, and your name, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to change how they deal with the mentally ill

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<v Speaker 1>and now and then that started a movement toward raising

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<v Speaker 1>money for all kinds of different things, scholarships, a statue,

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<v Speaker 1>a new rehab facility, a new homeless center.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that will raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of money and nothing will be accomplished. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just being cynical here. I know because I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this happened before. You can easily get in an afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred grand to show up to put up a statue.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody puts up a fifteen thousand dollars statue, and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars just disappears someplace. Same thing with the scholarship,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with a bunch of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and there's no question that we need to do

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<v Speaker 4>a better job of dealing with the mentally ill. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this is a classic example of the something

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<v Speaker 4>needs to happen. This is something, so therefore, this needs

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. So now to bring me your solutions, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about them.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm trying to make this realize, this is recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a complex issue. What do you do with

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<v Speaker 1>mentally ill people?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do with drug addicts? Well, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>through mister Neely's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Neely racked up more than three dozen arrests in

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<v Speaker 1>his life before he was choked to death. Many were

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<v Speaker 1>of the sort that people living on the street, often

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<v Speaker 1>a crew while homeless, like turnstile jumping or trespassing, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least four were on charges of punching people.

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<v Speaker 2>Two of them in the subway system. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that later.

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<v Speaker 1>Outreach workers noted that mister Neely heavily used K two,

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful, unpredictable synthetic marijuana, which, by the way, when

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you're on it will make you do horrible things, but

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<v Speaker 1>will ruin your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>And there ain't no fixing that. And what do we

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<v Speaker 2>do with those people? Back to that, We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that again later.

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<v Speaker 1>In June of twenty nineteen, an outreach worker noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>mister Neely had lost considerable weight and was sleeping Upright

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<v Speaker 1>around that time, he was reported to have banged on

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<v Speaker 1>a booth agent's door and threatened a killer, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the worker's notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, mister Neely became a client of an

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<v Speaker 1>intensive mobile treatment team, one of the squads of mental

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<v Speaker 1>health clinicians who minister to people in the streets and shelters.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a relative who actually does that kind of work.

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<v Speaker 1>In March of twenty twenty, the team had mister Neely

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<v Speaker 1>taken to Bellevue Hospital where he was kept for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Homeless Outreach records, it was not clear what

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<v Speaker 1>contact of the team had with him after that. This

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<v Speaker 1>gets to Joe's point that he did get that care

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<v Speaker 1>that the ACLU and COLU was claiming he deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, he deserved it, and he got it.

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<v Speaker 1>In November, at twenty twenty one, mister Neeley's aggression scene

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<v Speaker 1>to peak when he punched a sixty seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>woman in the street on the Lower East Side. The

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<v Speaker 1>police said the woman suffered several facial injuries, including a

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<v Speaker 1>broken nose. According to court documents, obviously it's just luck

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't die. He was charged with assault and,

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<v Speaker 1>awaiting the resolution of his case, spent fifteen months in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>the police said, though his family said the stint was shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>He pleaded guilty on February ninth of this year in

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<v Speaker 1>a carefully planned strategy between the city and his lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>to allow him to get treatment and stay out of prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Treatment for your drug addiction.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what the goal is today? The judge

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<v Speaker 4>said yes. Mister Neely replied, what is a goal?

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<v Speaker 1>To make it physically and mentally to the program he

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<v Speaker 1>was to go from court to live at a treatment

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<v Speaker 1>facility in the Bronx and stay cleaned for fifteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>In return, his felony conviction would be reduced. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's what we need to do as a society,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, he promised to take his medication into avoid drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>and not to leave the facility without permission. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful opportunity to turn things around, and we're glad

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<v Speaker 1>to give it to you, the prosecutor said, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Mister Neely replied. Thirteen days later, he abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>the facility. The judge issued a warrant for his arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes on to do a variety of other minor things,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nan shows up on the subway screaming you only

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to kill people. If he doesn't get what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants, he gets in a joke hold and he's dead,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, to Elon Musk's point, the word homeless is a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a you got a drug addict here, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>whose brain doesn't work because of their drug use.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to address this or not?

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<v Speaker 1>What would it take to get the country the States

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<v Speaker 1>of the cities to talk about it like it what

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<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 4>A educating mister and missus resident of whatever state you

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about so they understand this. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the way you cut through the misinformation about this

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<v Speaker 4>is to take the profit out of it. There are

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<v Speaker 4>billions and billions of dollars being given. People always talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it being spent, which is true, but it's being

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<v Speaker 4>spent on something and someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Is getting it.

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<v Speaker 4>The people who are getting billions of dollars to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with the quote unquote homeless problem don't want to give

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<v Speaker 4>that up, and they are frequently the cronies are the powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>You combine those people with the well meaning but soft

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<v Speaker 4>headed that have caused so many problems in our society,

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<v Speaker 4>and you just you've got to take the profit out

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<v Speaker 4>of it, I know, because then you got to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reality is tough, because even if we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to today as a country decide okay, no more

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<v Speaker 1>calling it homeless. Let's call it a drug addiction problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what, I don't know the answer, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know more than the average person knows about addiction

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<v Speaker 1>and rehabs and all that sort of stuff, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't work very often in the best of cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as a lover of liberty, I have had my

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<v Speaker 4>mind changed on this topic in a significant way.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait to hear that. I assume you're implying after this.

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<v Speaker 4>After this, Yeah, as I reach awkwardly for my hey

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow, quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals, who won on

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<v Speaker 4>Monday night, whilst his home was being broken into and

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<v Speaker 4>his girlfriend or whoever was living there had to call

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<v Speaker 4>the police.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd have had this simply safe, active guard outdoor protection,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have seen this happening before the people got in,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have been a much better situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>NFL teams, get this for all your stars. Simply safe

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 4>home security with the active guard outdoor protection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. The agents see the evil doer in real time.

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<v Speaker 4>They can talk to them, set off your spotlights, call

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<v Speaker 4>the cops before the break in, and listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>They are no long term contracts, there's no cancelation fee,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's around a buck a day for all this protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can set up yourself. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I set it up on my host then old house,

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<v Speaker 1>then I moved to a new, bigger, house ordered some

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<v Speaker 1>more sensors and cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>And stuff like that. Easy to do. Set it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to set it up yourself. They got

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<v Speaker 2>people that will help you.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Just go to a simply safe dot com slash armstrong

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 4>fifty percent off any new system with select professional monitoring

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<v Speaker 4>plan simplysafe dot com slash armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no safe like simply safe before you get to

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<v Speaker 2>your solution. I think this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Sharpton is a charlatan. He absolutely knows I get

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<v Speaker 1>people worked up. They donate money to various things. I

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>end up on the board or something, get a check,

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<v Speaker 1>or get to fly around and stay at a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and eat meals whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a charlatan.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, like the ACLU version in New York whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they actually believe that we're it's a homeless problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not doing enough to help homeless drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think how they ignore the fact the guy was

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<v Speaker 1>in how many different facilities and offered how many Why

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<v Speaker 1>would society say that if you go to this rehab

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<v Speaker 1>for a month, will forget the that you almost killed

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<v Speaker 1>an old woman.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure society should say that to start with,

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<v Speaker 4>but it doesn't work anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he got food and housing and services over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. So what was I gonna say?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Al Sharpton's precisely what he's always been. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>race hustler and a scammer and a black man.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And Morning Joe has him on almost every single morning

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<v Speaker 1>and takes him completely seriously on MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's what I wanted to point out the ACLU

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<v Speaker 4>people that they're hardcore Marxists. And I used to be

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<v Speaker 4>a quote unquote card carrying member of the ACLU because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a First Amendment freak.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was back in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>But like the Southern Poverty Law Center and the NAACP,

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 4>they've turned into hard left, neo Marxist organizations. They've evolved.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a different beast than it used to be. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>as a oh my gosh, look at the time, as.

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<v Speaker 1>A lover of literature, we should we come back in

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the low time for this. We got and a half

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<v Speaker 1>two hours and fifteen more minutes. We should not rush

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<v Speaker 1>through these things. These are important details.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I hate to rush rush our way through

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 4>important stuff that's nuanced.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll give us a short version of why I

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<v Speaker 1>get so worked up about this topic because of what

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<v Speaker 1>the police said to me when I was in this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh makes me so freaking angry. Got all that on

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<v Speaker 2>the way. So thank god Daniel Penny was acquitted.

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<v Speaker 1>It still may be damaging to society and know that

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<v Speaker 1>you could even be arrested and have to go through that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was standing between a crazed, violent drug addict

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<v Speaker 1>street person who was screaming at my small children, who

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<v Speaker 1>at the time were five and seven, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>effing rape them. I'm going to effing murder them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to kill them, I'm going to bury them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna blah blah blah screaming at me, screaming at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm standing between him and there, and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>two feet from me. In retrospect, I think I probably

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<v Speaker 1>should have put my hands on the guy. Luckily it

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>turned out the way he did. But it's just his macurial,

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>drug crazed mind. When after what seemed like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>of this it might have been three minutes, some guys

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<v Speaker 1>started walking across the parking lot and he realized there's

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<v Speaker 1>not only one dude here, but about to be two dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>He started to walk away. Then he said after I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill you. He reached in his jacket. I thought, grap,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna die. He's got a gun, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>walked off. Turned out he didn't have a gun. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if somebody screaming I'm gonna effing kill your

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<v Speaker 1>kids I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>You can put your hands on them at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Not in the town I live, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But anyway, I called the police.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing the cops say to me when I

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<v Speaker 1>describe what's happening and everything like that was and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to deal with this. You know, my kids

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<v Speaker 1>are crying, And he said the real problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have facilities for these people to be in.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing that freaking cops said to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I complained about that on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Air the next day, and I think that's the react

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<v Speaker 1>why I got the reaction I did out of the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor and the police department. I think I got special

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<v Speaker 1>treatment from being a media guy who embarrassed them on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, or that I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Have gotten that a repeatedly violent drug addict. The real

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<v Speaker 4>tragedy is that he can't get help. The first thing

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<v Speaker 4>the guy said to me, How offensive is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And so does that your actual belief about the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>People are completely delusional about reality. They cannot accept reality.

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<v Speaker 4>I've said this many times. The real divide in American

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<v Speaker 4>politics is those people who are adults who understand reality

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<v Speaker 4>and understand sometimes you have to do stuff that's sad

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<v Speaker 4>or makes your heart hurt and you'd rather not, but

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<v Speaker 4>you have to as a society.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people can can deal with that and some people cannot.

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<v Speaker 4>And they are generally progressives who are wantonly cruel when

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<v Speaker 4>they need to be, which is a bit of a paradox.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I was about to say about the drug

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<v Speaker 4>thing is, and you know, as a small libertarian, I

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<v Speaker 4>always want to opt to the side of more liberty.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are absolute perfect parallels between like some way

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<v Speaker 4>out there libertarians who believe we ought to have open borders,

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<v Speaker 4>free flow of labor. But they always say that they're

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<v Speaker 4>there are little meetings where you know, they concoct their

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculous plans, but we need to completely eliminate the welfare state.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've come and you work, and if you don't work,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get anything, and then it will work. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's utterly, completely, laughably unrealistic. There is no way you

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<v Speaker 4>are going to get the people in the government of

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<v Speaker 4>the United States to completely dismantle the welfare state.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>You might as well talk about pigs flying information like

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<v Speaker 4>the Blue Angels. So with the drug thing, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>been interesting to watch it play out, particularly in Oregon,

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<v Speaker 4>where they decriminalized possession use of hard drugs and ask

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<v Speaker 4>the people of Oregon how that went.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a miserable, miserable failure.

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<v Speaker 4>And they rescinded that law and are now back to,

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<v Speaker 4>at least to some extent, cracking down on possession and use.

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<v Speaker 4>I was swayed at one time in my life by

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<v Speaker 4>the great libertarians setting saying rather that drugs will ruin

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<v Speaker 4>your life. Therefore, if we catch you with drugs, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to ruin your life. And I thought that was

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<v Speaker 4>very clever, and it is actually, But here's the problem,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's there's a parallel with the immigration thing in

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<v Speaker 4>that if you say to me in society, yes, you

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<v Speaker 4>can use and possess hard drugs if you like, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you violate any of the rules and laws of manner. God,

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<v Speaker 4>you are going to suffer the full consequences of it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna let you say, but I was on drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>If you ruin your mind, you're not allowed to say,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm crazy. No, you have made the decision

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<v Speaker 4>to use hard drugs. That road led very quickly and

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<v Speaker 4>directly towards the horrendous thing you did. You will feel

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<v Speaker 4>the full weight of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to this guy that got choked to death

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<v Speaker 1>by Daniel Penny, who had punched an old woman in

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<v Speaker 1>the face, could have killed her, and they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let that slide. If he did the drug treatment treatment

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<v Speaker 1>thing over.

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<v Speaker 4>And over again. Yeah, yeah, And it's well meaning, that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of program. And if you want to have a

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<v Speaker 4>one strike you're out system, I'm willing to consider that.

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<v Speaker 4>But the problem is, like the immigration thing, there is

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<v Speaker 4>no urge, there's no will that I've observed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the second half of the equation.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to legalize hard drugs, decriminalize them, but if

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<v Speaker 4>you across the line, you're going to feel the full

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<v Speaker 4>weight of the law. Americans don't seem at least a

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<v Speaker 4>large percentage electorate doesn't seem willing to do that. It

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<v Speaker 4>strikes them as too mean or too cruel, and so

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<v Speaker 4>you get the worst of both ends. You have all

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<v Speaker 4>these people destroying their lives with addiction and screwing up

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<v Speaker 4>cities and towns and hurting people and claiming more victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and then the other end of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that I think we do people a real favor

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<v Speaker 4>by making it as difficult and miserable as possible to

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<v Speaker 4>be a drug addict. Otherwise, society becomes the enabler. Society

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<v Speaker 4>becomes the boyfriend their girlfriend that keeps giving the money

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<v Speaker 4>and covering up for their crime and the rest of you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're the parents that let your drug addicted kid

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<v Speaker 1>live in the basement and let them have a car

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<v Speaker 1>and a phone.

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<v Speaker 4>And bail them out time and time again. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>a simple reality. It's it's unfortunate and it feels mean,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, it's it's inescapably true. You've got to make

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<v Speaker 4>it miserable for people to become drug addicts. You know what,

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<v Speaker 4>you get fewer drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one thing is certain, what we're doing currently is

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<v Speaker 1>not working. Miserable failure. If you mentioned hour or the show,

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<v Speaker 1>get the podcast, Armstrong and Getty on demand, Armstrong and

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