WEBVTT - Ep 308: Why I-Bonds Are Suddenly A Sexy Investment.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, ooh got that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're black, we'd brawn, ambition, ambition, Wow, dressed like Destiny's child,

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<v Speaker 2>throw back clips, Mama Tina's always.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of We're Dusty, get it? Instead of Destiny Dusty

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<v Speaker 1>shop just a little dusty.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a little junkier. Yes, Oh that's all good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been so long I haven't been in a single mood

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<v Speaker 2>without your babes. I'm glad to be back ish back ish, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, giving yourself free to define it however

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<v Speaker 2>the hell you want. I'm exhausted from Mother's Day. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the baby make you anything? In school?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of freaking work to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a mom on Mother's Day. And every mom that I've

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<v Speaker 2>run into since yesterday we just all look at each

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<v Speaker 2>other like you're out here too. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be yep. You just want to take a nap, don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But they keep making us do things, the brunches, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's great. You know, Rio made me his first little

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<v Speaker 2>he's big enough now he can actually, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sign a card while he scribbles. But yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 2>made They made the kids did little wind chimes for

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<v Speaker 2>us at take care. So it's so so proud of himself.

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<v Speaker 2>When he walked in and gave it to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>was adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta keep it forever and ever and ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I will because it's his full little wind chime. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like I don't know an ashtray. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>used to make my mom's. But oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not cool anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me think about the times, right, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like my sister Carol, like her her son Roman

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<v Speaker 1>made her some little like I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was a flower vase or

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, but they had like his picture on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told her like if she didn't right, he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna take it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course he would say that. So now me, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a did you check the terms and conditions of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the behavior clause?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I couldn't believe it. She was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't take it back? He said, I can't, and I will.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Amelia created a chart where it's like she

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<v Speaker 1>found that they have this behavior chart for her where

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<v Speaker 1>literally it's just chart, mommy chart, and every day because

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<v Speaker 1>like in school. I guess they have a little box.

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<v Speaker 1>If you behave you get a check. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you get an X. So apparently they got a running

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<v Speaker 1>chart for her in their room. Can you imagine judging

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<v Speaker 1>her mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually I can't imagine it. The people. She's lost control,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>They literally she lost control.

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<v Speaker 1>The calls coming in from inside the house. She took it.

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<v Speaker 1>She put in our group chat. She was like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at these dag on kids check deciding if I was

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<v Speaker 1>good today.

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<v Speaker 2>We do that ourselves in our own minds. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>need the kids to criticize us. We're already bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a que did cook for me. Husband did cook,

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<v Speaker 2>but in order for him to have all of the hours,

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<v Speaker 2>he needed to do things like shop and cook a

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<v Speaker 2>meal as like babysitter. Didn't you didn't think about that? Nope? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna be sitting here and it's raining cats

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<v Speaker 2>and dogs. So I was really stuck indoors with my

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<v Speaker 2>wild child. But it was lovely. Long story short though,

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<v Speaker 2>I booked a massage for myself tomorrow so we all

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<v Speaker 2>make Tuesday, when everyone's at daycare and work and out

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<v Speaker 2>of my damn way, we're making Tuesday Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we gonna be our It's like, no, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to create space and time. I was on my neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>and next door I was like, I've been looking to purchase,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like another home or whatever. And my

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor next door looks like he was like gearing up

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<v Speaker 1>to move. And then a friend of mine told me, girl, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how there's like financial stuff that happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the news, but then it's like it hits home. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was supposed to buy a house around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>House is really beautiful. It's really hard to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this neighborhood. She found it. She had a great interest

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<v Speaker 1>that she locked in for three percent, which is awesome

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<v Speaker 1>historical lows we all know. But the problem is is

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<v Speaker 1>that the seller's agent was slow. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about interest rates is typically the bank will

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<v Speaker 1>give you a specific number of days, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's thirty days or whatever to secure like whatever, basically

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<v Speaker 1>to get all your stuff together. So she had done

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<v Speaker 1>all of her stuff and gotten all her stuff together,

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<v Speaker 1>and the seller's agent, so that means the people that

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<v Speaker 1>represent the people who are selling the house were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get their stuff together, and they did not the agent.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ratelock expired, yes, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Went from three percent to six percent, and now she

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Rates at three percent, like that was a couple months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>like rates took gone back up. Now that's the raising.

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<v Speaker 1>Rates, I know. So you know she is livid. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, you know, Like folks don't really understand

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes, Like so if your rate goes up, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes the price of the house, not necessarily go up,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly makes the monthly ay, monthly payment go up.

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<v Speaker 1>So now all of a sudden, who someone who could

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<v Speaker 1>afford this five hundred thousand dollars home can only afford

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<v Speaker 1>a four hundred and fifty thousand dollars home because they

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford the monthly payments of the five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars home unless the interest rate was super low. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now you're gonna have homes that it's like some

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<v Speaker 1>of these homes are gonna have to adjust their prices

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<v Speaker 1>just because people who could afford them, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the lower interest rate, are not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>afford them now. So it's like, yikes, tell me we're

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<v Speaker 1>headed for a recession. Without telling me we were heading for

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<v Speaker 1>a recession.

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<v Speaker 2>Child, I know's that's the whispers out there, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the stock market. You know, I'm usually pretty good. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not our first rodeo. How long you've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this show? Seven years now? How many different stock market

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<v Speaker 2>dips have we come and said to y'all, calm down,

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be all right? Don't look ooh. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like this last night looking at my four one not

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<v Speaker 2>my four to one K, but my well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my four to one k's that I'm now consolidate into

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<v Speaker 2>my you know, my one central brokerage account. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, you know, on your brokerage account, you

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<v Speaker 2>can view the returns from like year to date, one

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<v Speaker 2>year ago, five years. I like to start with a

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<v Speaker 2>ten year Outlook, how has this performed over ten years?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, you know, it's up. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I forget what the double digits you know? Up? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you look to how I've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>since January eight, ain't a pretty picture. I lost. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was down negative, negative, negative, But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>why and what's going on it seems like a million

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<v Speaker 2>different things. One, the FED is raising interest rates, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and businesses aka those things that make up the stock

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<v Speaker 2>market don't love higher borrowing costs. In general, inflation is

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<v Speaker 2>still krai krak, like insanely crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's looking like ninety eighty Some of y'all wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even born then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm about to google it right now? What is

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<v Speaker 2>inflation rate? What's it been like? Eight percent? It's forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been as high as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm forty two, so I was two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>We left experienced this craziness eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And a half percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I just checked high. You know, why did I Why

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<v Speaker 1>did that march? Why did many make me do this?

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<v Speaker 1>I just checked, like, don't For the last three months,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down twenty three basically twenty four percent. Yo, that's cristy.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick quick, look at the ten year old look quick qick.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, for the all time of all time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've all come up fourteen percent of all time. See,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The peddercatter anxiety starts to relay. Okay, yes, but I

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<v Speaker 2>really had to do that because it's stressful. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>should I be doing something different?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, the truth, Well that's not true. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. We started off Frans anyway, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So the thing is is that during the

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<v Speaker 1>last major recession two thousand and nine, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>wealth was made for so many people. You hear people

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<v Speaker 1>say that over and over and over again, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we lose our minds every time. We have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to grow wealth in this way. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you have the opportunity to grow wealth in this way

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<v Speaker 1>is that there are things that are legitimately down, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a good company down, And there are

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<v Speaker 1>things that are down situationally like this is a good company,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody down, so you down to So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have companies that you've been studying and you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually like a really good company, or maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the market itself, because the market goes up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>up and down, that you might say, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in like the overall market through an ETF, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a group of stocks and bonds and other

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<v Speaker 1>financial instruments that you can purchase that mimics what the

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<v Speaker 1>market does. You know, this is not certainly not investment advice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying in general that, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when the market is down, it may present an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to stock up on things that are quote unquote on sale.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember, in order for something to be on sale,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually has to be the real value. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>worth the value. It just happens to be temporarily discounted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key to investing is finding things that are

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily discounted, stocking up when you're on sale, and when

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<v Speaker 1>they return the regular price, getting you behind on Etsy

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<v Speaker 1>and settle them for full price, y'all. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>So there's real opportunity here that yes, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>lost money, but know that over the last hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>the market has always gone back up and exceeded where

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<v Speaker 1>it was previously. So if we were to look back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, last fifty years, one hundred years, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that that is likely to happen. Of course, no one

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<v Speaker 1>knows the future, but it might be an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>like stock up. I'm certainly looking I have a stock

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<v Speaker 1>or an investment WhatsApp chat and we're always talking about

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<v Speaker 1>things like you know, what are you gonna pick up

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<v Speaker 1>that's on sale? So what about you, mandra how are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be riding this wave?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I love? Well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about something else. I love this podcast called The Indicator,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to shout them out. They are like

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<v Speaker 2>a ten minute, quick little They basically pick one economic

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<v Speaker 2>indicator and they kind of dive into it each week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love it. It's a great little nugget of

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<v Speaker 2>a show. And last week's episode had me really noodling

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<v Speaker 2>because they were talking about eye bonds, which don't sound

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<v Speaker 2>sexy at all. You think about bond savings bonds and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, that thing that grandma bought me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the early nineties or or eighties or whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 2>inflation bonds have been getting really, really sexy. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>this one particular bond called the eye bond, which they

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<v Speaker 2>talked about and then after I heard about it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like googling it and really interested. But because of inflation,

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<v Speaker 2>they basically created this product called the ie bond back

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineties to give investors an alternative, like another

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<v Speaker 2>way to invest their money that was relatively safe, that

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<v Speaker 2>was actually backed by the government, so you're never going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose the money that you put in and it

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<v Speaker 2>had a guaranteed interest rate. And because of how it's

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<v Speaker 2>called the inflation bond, the eebond, because it is meant

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<v Speaker 2>to protect you against inflation. Now, before you get too excited,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to tell you what the interest rate

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<v Speaker 2>is today. Guaranteed nine point six two percent interest rate guaranteed, guaranteed. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can only put ten thousand dollars in a year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the one caveat. But it exists now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>inflation bonds, it exists. It's not as it's not a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl. If you see me, I'm living and I know

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<v Speaker 1>risk adverse investor like you, You're like, I'm like ibond

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<v Speaker 1>for when I speak to Angelie, my financial advisor this

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<v Speaker 1>coming week, I'm like, girl, please explain ibond nine point percent?

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<v Speaker 2>You said nine point six two. Nine point six two.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look at my old friend Ken getting quoted in

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<v Speaker 2>this article about them. Now. This is Ken, my friend Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to work together at when I was at

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<v Speaker 2>a couple companies ago. He's the founder of a website

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<v Speaker 2>called depositi Accounts dot com. When you talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, revenge of the Nerds, and like people who

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<v Speaker 2>are obsessed with conservative, you know, investments. Ken Tuoman is

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<v Speaker 2>like the ring leader and he's amazing. So he's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure he's just dancing and having a party right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's thinking eebonds are sexy, But I yeah, I read

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and I'm actually I'm thinking less about my

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<v Speaker 2>investments these days, and I just don't have the bandwidth.

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<v Speaker 2>But my dad is finally getting his act together as

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<v Speaker 2>sixty two no shout out to my dad, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had me open him up a brokerage account at Vanguard

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<v Speaker 2>and he put in, you know, some money and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be figuring out how to invest it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, duh, iebond, Like, at least that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>step for someone like him who's in his early sixties

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<v Speaker 2>and he needs to he literally needs to hedge against inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what that's what the eyebond is meant to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's meant to, at the minimum, keep your money protected

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<v Speaker 2>against inflation so that the dollar you put in today

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<v Speaker 2>will at least be a dollar you know down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of how high inflation is, we just said,

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<v Speaker 2>like what eight nine percent has? How crazy? So the

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<v Speaker 2>eyebond rate has gone up, so if y'all want to

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<v Speaker 2>look into it, it got my little ears perked up

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<v Speaker 2>this past weekend and anyway, But those limitations the whole

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<v Speaker 2>like only ten thousand things. I think it's ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>per year, and on top of that it's only you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nine point six percent is exciting, especially when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about how much do we lose? You said twenty something percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but still over the ten year period. What I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was up like you said fourteen, I haven't looked

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<v Speaker 2>at mine, but double digits, right, So that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the potential to be as high as a stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why it's obviously not the only answer, but

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<v Speaker 2>it can be one one, just one investment that I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about outside.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what they call it, like a hedge, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because basically when you do that, it's like like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you're like, what does that mean when

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<v Speaker 1>people say they're hedging their bets, it means then as

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<v Speaker 1>they take a risk over here and we all know

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<v Speaker 1>which way it's gonna go, you might go to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent, thirty percent, whatever. You hedge your bets by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>let me keep some things aside for safety. For that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only fall but so far, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I can you know, with great risk comes great reward.

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<v Speaker 1>So we could go go go go this side and

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<v Speaker 1>then over here. It's like, you know, we can only fall,

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<v Speaker 1>but so much. So with any of these things, really,

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<v Speaker 1>the key is figuring out the balance for you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do I want to put in like quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote safer investments and how much do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>put investments that have the ape the potential to go

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<v Speaker 1>as high as possible, but just no, with great height

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<v Speaker 1>comes great falls. Yeah, so you just got to know

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<v Speaker 1>like what that balance is for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one last thing on the ibond, because I did

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<v Speaker 2>bring up this question. Here's the rules. You can put

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<v Speaker 2>up to ten thousand dollars in ebonds per person per year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go to Treasurydirect dot gov where you

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<v Speaker 2>can purchase them, and then you can actually if you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a federal income tax refund, you can buy up

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<v Speaker 2>to an additional five thousand dollars worth using your income

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<v Speaker 2>tax refund. So if you're a couple and you're filing

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<v Speaker 2>jointly or purchasing these jointly, that means you can buy

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<v Speaker 2>up to twenty five thousand dollars worth per year. So

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a conversation to be had with a individual financial planner,

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<v Speaker 2>not financial vesties us.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you reading that from? Because I'm literally gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eat email on Julie that that.

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<v Speaker 2>My girl and currents from the New York Times. You

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<v Speaker 2>want me to, I'll send you the link right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, please do yes and check out that episode

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<v Speaker 2>of the Indicator. Shout out to them. I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>They are my my walk companions on Friday. You'd be

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<v Speaker 2>so proud of me. I'm doing a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>early morning I don't have early morning business calls. I

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<v Speaker 2>usually have a coaching call every every day at ten am. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've started a walking regimen. Regimen sounds to belitaristic.

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped the kid off at daycare. I go to

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<v Speaker 2>a park that's a beautiful park and near me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been walking and forty five minutes has turned into

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<v Speaker 2>like two hours sometimes. And I'm doing coaching calls. And

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<v Speaker 2>my clients don't mind that I'm walking around. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably really don't mind because they love it because

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<v Speaker 2>you are you are. It's a teachable moment of what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like when you align yourself, you get paid

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<v Speaker 2>what you feel is fair, and you can walk and

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<v Speaker 2>talk like Mandra So I love that you had to

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<v Speaker 2>get me out of the space. And it's cold down here,

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<v Speaker 2>and plus it's been like sunny lately or sunny today anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, no way am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down here if I don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I try to, you know, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>get my daily walk in. And something I happit that

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<v Speaker 1>I picked up when I was in Bali is I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, I'm going to Bali, But what am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to do as far as exercise? Although I

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<v Speaker 1>knew i'd do more hiking and things that normal because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everything's so beautiful, but still I wanted like

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<v Speaker 1>to bring something with me. And I was at Marshall's

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they have like this exercise section and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, a jump rope. I have that

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<v Speaker 1>jump rope since I was like a kid, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I got a jump ope. And when I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy jump roping, I never thought. I mean, now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one of these the boxer. Here's the boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>be like girl, and it sounds more like send a

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<v Speaker 1>RelA just the yellow what like my jump? Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely giving sixth grade Tiffany. But when I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that the inches that I have shred as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of jumping rope and then after I jump, very do

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<v Speaker 1>a little some like calisthetics like sometimes some ludgends and

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<v Speaker 1>squads and some crunches. You know, nothing crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So but that alone, I mean, it wasn't even that

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped a ton of like weight or anything. It

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<v Speaker 1>was but the inches because like the outfit that I

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<v Speaker 1>wore to Bali, I always have like a travel pair

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<v Speaker 1>of jeans and shirt. It was smaller when I came back,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I had stepped on the scale, fem when

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<v Speaker 1>I came back, because I didn't step in any scales

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<v Speaker 1>and Bali, I was like, okay, I actually had put

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<v Speaker 1>on like two pounds. But yet my sister's like, did

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<v Speaker 1>you eat when you were out there? I'm like why,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, you you look so like you look like

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<v Speaker 1>you lost a lot, and I had not. It was just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I just really shred inches. And since

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<v Speaker 1>then I've just muscle yes, and so I've been jumping

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<v Speaker 1>rope in the morning in the evening, and I find

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<v Speaker 1>that when I jump rope before bed, I actually sleep better.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I honestly when I say I love it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm kind of a control free I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you know this about mandr and I, because she

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<v Speaker 1>is one too, and I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's gonna drag me down with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine if I'm falling down the rabbit hole. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I love about the jump rope is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the peloton is the instructor telling me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, leave me alone. The treadmill is like the

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<v Speaker 1>treadmill selling me well. With the jump rope at any

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<v Speaker 1>moment I can stop, I could do as much or

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<v Speaker 1>as little, you know, I mean, it doesn't require like

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<v Speaker 1>all of this like thought process. I jump rope now,

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<v Speaker 1>like talking on the phone with my sister in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>because it helps, like you know, talking and jumping rope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like helps like with me because I had

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<v Speaker 1>asthma as a kid, so it helps me like strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>my lungs. I've heard that it's really good for bone

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<v Speaker 1>density jumping rope.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you're bringing this up because not long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I read an article that said that was like jump

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<v Speaker 2>roping is it?

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<v Speaker 1>If you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was all about exactly what you're saying, how

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<v Speaker 2>it helps with bone density, how it's a good cardio workout,

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<v Speaker 2>and how it ads what's it when you actually your

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<v Speaker 2>body weight? Like that's why walking and running are good too,

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<v Speaker 2>because you you have to carry yourself in it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, probably something scientific that I'm not qualified to

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<v Speaker 2>speak on, but because of that article, I bought my

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<v Speaker 2>I bought me a little seven dollars jump rope. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can. I haven't been. I wish I could

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<v Speaker 2>say I was, as I had gotten more in the

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<v Speaker 2>habit of it. But what I liked is I could

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<v Speaker 2>put it on my pocket and take it on a

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<v Speaker 2>walk with me, you know, whip it out. It is fun,

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<v Speaker 2>though it does take you back to being a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I'm like literally like look at me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tellingly and I'm like, damn it. But I so

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<v Speaker 1>I had this thing. So in the beginning, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well how long do I jump? I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>how about now? How long? Just do a hundred rotations?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd be like one to mess up? Okay, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five six messed up? Okay, So then then

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<v Speaker 1>when a hundred rotations got to be easy, because in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I would do like four and be like

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<v Speaker 1>I need a minute. Yeah, right, then that got easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I would do stuff like okay, one Drake song

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, he'd be crooning for a while. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, two Drake songs. So then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so literally I'll set it and now I'll be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to listen to a podcast and jump rope.

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes it easy to like, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>pair it with a thing, so I'm not really thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the jumping of the rope. Or maybe I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna jump rope this whole conversation with my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I tell you it's been awesome, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting. I had already done that already. I like

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<v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting. I like, like, I'm not a breakfast person,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I don't eat late anymore for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, but like, you know, maybe I eat my

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<v Speaker 1>first meal like eleven thirty twelve because my fast is

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty twelve to seven thirty so anytime after eleven thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>but also too, like just listening to my body, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll eat something. I'm realizing chicken doesn't really do me right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like like beef and chicken. I'm like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've cut that out. I had not eaten beef

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<v Speaker 1>in a while anyway, But really it's seafood, heavy, heavy, vegetable.

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<v Speaker 1>The more vegetables I eat, the better I feel. So

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that, I'm just like, that's why I'm skin You

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<v Speaker 1>look at my skin. For those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>not watching our YouTube or not watching her, who are

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<v Speaker 1>not following us on Insta, you're missing out because Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>and I skin is glowing.

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<v Speaker 2>I need sunglasses. The glow is I'm also kind of annoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn, another person being like vegetables and exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I had decided because I was doing that obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>After the drill passed her, I was like, because everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>fiving me like cookies and cakes and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was raking it in. But before he had

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<v Speaker 1>passed away, I had actually gone to the doctor and

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<v Speaker 1>two visits twice. My I'd never had high blood pressure before,

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<v Speaker 1>and my blood pressure was elevated and she was like, hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time, she was just like, eh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you ran up the stairs to come see me.

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<v Speaker 1>Second time, she said, she mean, you never have elevated

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<v Speaker 1>bloo pressure. This is the second time. But by then

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<v Speaker 1>I had packed on like twenty pounds, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>pre passing. And I was like, yeah, you know same.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of like, I'll do this, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I would stick to something for a week

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<v Speaker 1>or two. I bought the peloton and all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I really started to worry because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, blood pressure is really nothing to play with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she told me if you come back and

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<v Speaker 1>your blood pressure is still high, I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>put you on medication. I was like medication, Like I'm seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Tiffany. And so once Yeral passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>I said to myself, Tiffany, we can't do both. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you want to eat all the things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't. I have to just focus on this

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<v Speaker 1>grief right now, girl, I cannot also stress about your health.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I had to almost step outside of

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<v Speaker 1>myself and say, you know, like you you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>could like see me in the year sis if we

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<v Speaker 1>went to over eat, you know, but right now, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to focus on this one thing. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what pushed me to say, I cannot also be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to have a heart attack, like girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll choose something. And so that's why I got the

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<v Speaker 1>jump rope. That's why honestly I chose Bali because I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I could reset my diet. And I did, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I do this thing that my sister hates, what

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<v Speaker 1>I call it hot salad, so like I don't cook

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<v Speaker 1>y'all roast, I know, that's what I say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm about to get me a hot sala

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like I don't swear so but really what

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<v Speaker 3>it is is I go to Whole Foods and I

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<v Speaker 3>get all the warm, warm vegetables, you know, because one

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<v Speaker 3>of the reasons, like one of the deterrents for me

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<v Speaker 3>eating vegetables is like I don't always want crispy, crunchy cold,

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 3>and so I'll just go to you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I always I'll go to Whole Foods and I'll get like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a bunch of like and all the little

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<v Speaker 3>containers like beans and this containers and another set of

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<v Speaker 3>beans here, and then like the cooked vegetables and all

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<v Speaker 3>their separate containers.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I have maybe four or five containers at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I will like you know, like put them

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<v Speaker 1>all into like a pan a walk and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>seize them up and eat that for like breakfast or

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<v Speaker 1>lunch or dinner. And so, but that has helped a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because I'm like, you know, sometimes I do like

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<v Speaker 1>the crunchy you know, cold, but you know, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>want something warm. And beans and mushrooms have been really

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<v Speaker 1>like my best friend when it comes to needing that

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<v Speaker 1>more robust feeling what I'm eating, you know, and being

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<v Speaker 1>full longer. So it's helped significantly. But yeah, I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty something pounds. I don't know if y'all could sell,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm down like twenty something pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>And you like feel you look like you say a feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but like I feel healthy, That's what I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I do. I feel physically stronger and healthier. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so for those of you who might be struggle laying,

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<v Speaker 1>consider hot salad and a jump rope.

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<v Speaker 2>The hot salad jump rope. I'm sure it'll be a best.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, people don't feelze Like my friend always

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<v Speaker 1>says that bad health is like people are like, oh,

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, good food is expensive, like healthy food is expensive.

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bad health is even more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so right, And it's so annoying that you can

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<v Speaker 2>be so smart even to grief, to.

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Be because it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one more kind damn thing to think about and

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<v Speaker 2>think that. I'm just like this again, Mandy, another one,

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<v Speaker 2>another fifty pounds. Come on, Hey, we're all on our

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>own journeys, right, So we're all on our own journeys.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 2>right back with more a brown ambition. All right, ba fan,

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<v Speaker 2>we're back. Can I tell you a little secret though

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm really excited about. And I decided I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>speak my secrets out loud. But at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, one of my one of my goals was

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<v Speaker 2>to work on a book proposal. Okay, so I could, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I could, you know, get my own, get my own

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh what's that on you? What do you call that

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<v Speaker 2>behind you? That picture? I want my own book cover

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 2>on the wall behind me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know I've had this, I've had this idea,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't happening right. Like I'm someone I've written

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life. I've always wanted to write a book,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I know I have it in me

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<v Speaker 2>and I keep saying that, but yet we're the book

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<v Speaker 2>at No. Never had it, never got that agent, agents

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<v Speaker 2>reach out, and never did anything, you know, And I realized, Okay,

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>so what do I need to change? I need some accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm working with a book proposal coach me accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to get this book. I'm not ready

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<v Speaker 2>to like talk about titles and stuff, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>i'll tell you. I'll tell you offline, Tiff, now that

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<v Speaker 2>you're backish, but I'm really excited and and I know, Tiff,

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<v Speaker 2>you just went through this too, but I'll share y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>So the journey is for me proposal first, and then

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<v Speaker 2>shop it to agents, and then agent gets it and

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 2>hopefully agent takes it to a publisher and then all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not focused on that now. The focus now

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>is just months, several months work of proposal writing. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be my summer activity, and I'm really

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it feels so damn good to have taken one step

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<v Speaker 2>that I know. It's like, Okay, I'm actually doing this

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>damn thing. It feels and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Proud of you for it. Because I got the agent

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<v Speaker 1>first and then the proposal was due. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie the level of stress it was so because I

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>had never been Yeah, but to your point, I had

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>not thought it through, like what do I want to write?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait so but but I will tell you the

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<v Speaker 1>best piece of advice and my agent, Heather gave me

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was because I was like, can I do like.

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<v Speaker 2>A little five page proposal?

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>She was like, you can, but she said the issue

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<v Speaker 1>with doing that is that but one, when you do

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<v Speaker 1>a more flushed out proposal, that means that you and

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<v Speaker 1>your head are really clear about what you're going to write.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And also two, it makes the person who's buying the

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>book clear about what you're going to write, because if

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you do a shorter one, you know, the publisher might

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>be like, let's turn left, and you're like, well, you know,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>my intention was to turn right, but it's not in

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the proposal, so how would they have known that? You know?

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, okay, So I told myself, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what I'm talk about. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>do this ten page proposal seventy pages later. Yeah, between fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>And one hundred is the estimate. Yes, that's right on

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<v Speaker 2>the nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think it was like seventy pages late. But

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<v Speaker 1>I when I tell you, I'm so glad that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the proposal in the way that I did because

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it forced me to get clear on what did I

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>want to write, and I wrote the like I can

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>have it to Mandy. I don't know if I have,

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but I can obviously share my proposal with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote my whole first like introduction chapter for you know,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and then like you know, like here are the chapters,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm what I'm going to cover. When I

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>tell you, it was so helpful because it was like

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the most amazing outline that I just had to fill

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.959
<v Speaker 1>in as I was doing the book. So yeah, like

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the proposal process can be. Truthfully, it's crazy. I almost

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>found it harder the proposal process and the actually writing

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>of the book.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's exactly it's all of that. It's clarity,

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it's being focused, it's having all that feedback and I know,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's what's been so daunting, is and I and

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>thank you for that, because a lot of generous people

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>have shared their proposals with me and and in the

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>best way. It's like it's like it forced me to

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, let me get this right. And even

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like speaking to different coaches and who I wanted to

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>work with and ended up picking this wonderful woman. I mean,

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>we haven't started yet, so I'll endorse her once it's done.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>But but she's actually worked with authors just like me,

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>people who and Tiff as well, like you know, people

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>who have you know, built a following and have a message,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but really want to target it and be specific. And

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>for me, the book is really just a continuation of

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>my business, you know, for me, I know it'll open

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>doors to opportunities and just yeah, I you know, but

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 2>one step at a time, and I coach this all

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the time with my clients, is what's the one step

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you did today to get you toward your end goal?

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Just one baby step? And for me, signing that contract

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>with her was a big baby step, a big girl step. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give you one one one piece of advice

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that really helped me aside from like not the proposal itself,

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>but just in general this process. So I would just

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>say that, figure out what do you want, Meaning like

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, I was like, okay, what do I want

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>out of this book? And so I was like, well, one,

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted something I could imagine the woman going to

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Barnes and Nobles and picking it off the shelf and saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I know what to do when it comes to

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the foundation of my first personal financial life. Like I

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted like a almost like a financial bible. So that

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>was one I was like, I wanted it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I'm dating myself like an encyclopedia. That's

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>how I wanted it to feel. So I was like, one,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to help that woman, the woman who emails

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<v Speaker 1>me and sees me and whole Foods and marshals and says, Tiffany,

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I need help with It's like, here's the foundation. That

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>was one. Two to me. It wasn't really about like

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<v Speaker 1>how big my contract was going to because honestly, I

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a point of reference on how big contracts

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<v Speaker 1>could because I was a new time author as far

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>as you know, publishing in this way. But I said,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I know that I want to see can I do it?

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I wanted to sell a hundred thousand copies in

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<v Speaker 1>the year, although I'm not gonna lie. I didn't realize

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like that's like not realistic, a realistic goal. Yeah, it's not.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>You operate in a different universe than the rest.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I didn't know. But I didn't know what

0:30:58.320 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>was a lot or little you know what I mean.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I thought, like, you know, I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand is really good, twenty five is great over

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>fifty years, Okay, girl, we see you. So one hundred

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand is like, all right, girl, are you Michelle Obama?

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You know? So I didn't, but that was like my

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<v Speaker 1>number in my head just because I just I'm used

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to working with like my business numbers. So I was like, Okay,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>this is our goal. And then third, I really wanted

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a New York Times bestseller, not for the flex, although

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it's nice flex, really because I wanted to be taken

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>more seriously in other circles. And I knew that having

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that stamp was going to allow folks who might be

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like in no shade to influencers because I'm in part

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>an influencer on top of financial educator and otherwise. But

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I knew that if I wanted to be taken seriously

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>on a broader market, having that stamp of New York

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Times bestseller was going to assist me in doing so.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So I just share that to say, then, and that's

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>just for any of y'all setting any kind of goals,

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like the goal before the goal, because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the spice to the thing you're creating. That

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<v Speaker 1>had I not set those intents ahead of time, I

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<v Speaker 1>baked in those intentions into the writing of the proposal

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<v Speaker 1>and then the book, and then the marketing and then

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the so really got clear, like I want that woman

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<v Speaker 1>to have her financial bible, and with that New York

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Times bestseller, so it gets me that stamp of approval.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>And there was a certain amount of books I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to sell, although I just found out Penguin told me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had a meeting with them last week and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, the number we have an author portal.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Almost every publisher has one or big publisher you can

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.479
<v Speaker 1>go in and see your numbers. And I was like, oh, okay,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I see my numbers. Uh. One year later, my book

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<v Speaker 1>has sold drum roll, please, one hundred and fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand copies in one year. I was like, say what now,

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I said the author, Putty, don't say that. She was like, yeah,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I know. She's like, I don't know why it's off,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>she said, but they pull numbers like Target calls them

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>every week, Barnes and Nobles, Amazon every week. They get

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>all the numbers from all the bookstores and whatever. She's like, now,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you right now, one hundred and fifty

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand cops these in one calendar year, which is insite.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't wait for your book to come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Book came out, Sorry, girl, I can't.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Wait to give you all my tips and tracks job like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, oh, Mandy do it? Don't do that, Mandy,

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>oh'll do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, No, I just told you on last week's show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll say it again, and I've said it to

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<v Speaker 2>other people too. The fact that your book did so amazing,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>like you don't even understand. It'll probably take years for

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>you to find it, but to figure it out or

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to or even it's not one of those things that

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>could maybe ever tangible, but it makes us such a

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>big difference still to this day, ten percent or fewer

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>books are by people of color, not even women of color,

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>people of color, And I feel like if you even

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<v Speaker 2>get into the business category and finance categories and even

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>smaller percentage there are so there's so much room for us.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately we're still on this point of we need

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<v Speaker 2>to prove that there's a marketplace and all that bullshit. Right,

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.719
<v Speaker 2>so in such a huge way, you know, and with

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 2>your intentions, I know, you know, being entirely what they

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>are about that woman picking your book off the shelf,

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>but you creating that book has probably made it easier

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 2>for me to get a book deal, and other people

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>have come at you. So again, I will poor, I

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 2>will always give you your flowers, Tiff. You deserve it,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you do, and I hope, I hope my book can

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>do the same. I'm really excited.

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Will y'all gonna be sick of us, sick of us

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>over here?

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Give me this book, my untitled book project. I'll tell

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 2>you more about it as I go. Okay, but yeah.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, ah well that post is in a great

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>move for some boosty breaky time.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's take a quick let's take a quick little

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<v Speaker 2>commercial break to hear some from some of our sponsors,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and we'll write back with you our boost and break?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Wait, what's your boost and break song? I forget,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>It's now it's time to No. No, it was like

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the Mickey Mouse song is like am I c khy?

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Like? Do the kids even know what that is anymore?

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a version of that you know that

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>we could do with I don't know, bad Bunny DJ Khaled,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>something that the youths are into these days.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>No, but I will. I will think of something. I will.

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of, Like, what's a cute little

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>ditty that we could do it too? For now? We

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>could just be like, are you gonna boost? Are you

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna break? No, we didn't. This is just new.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>In the background. Find us some theme music.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know what here, this is what we're gonna do.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Brown a bitch and listeners, Mandy and I would love

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a really cute booster break Diddy. Okay, So if you

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>can sing us a little songy song and send it

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to us, maybe dms via Instagram? Is that a good

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>place to send a little songy song?

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Sure, right, dm us on Instagram with your little songy

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>song about boosting and breaking brown boosts, brown break, Brown boost,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>brown Break? What you're gonna do? No, that's some bad voice.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, see I'm just I'm tap dry. So if

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a keep booster breaks song, send it. Maybe

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll play it, and we will, we will, you know,

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll shout out your ig.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>How about that? That sounds good? And I know I'm

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>no help because all I can think of is the

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>wheels on the bus which was being which was bopping

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>in the car this morning, and the ba Keyway theme song.

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>But I got nothing, But let's get into it. What're

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you gonna do tif boost or break? Today?

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I am going to boost because I had therapy right before,

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>because I know we chatted prior and you were like,

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>before this, you took like an hour or two to

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of think about the show, and I took the

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>hour to like, you know, just kind of like decompressed

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>from therapy. So I cannot tell you how helpful therapy

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>has been, not just for obviously this grief process, because

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>today was like a really rough day, and certainly, you

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>know I was telling you my therapist, I'm like, I

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>woke up so anxious and I couldn't. I didn't understand why.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:53.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know, she helped me to see, like there's

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of triggers in my house that just

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>like I just missing Darrell honestly, and how to see

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>grief as a wave, not you know, you hear like

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the five stages of grief. She's like, you know, they've

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>since debunked that, therapist, because that's just not how grief

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like reveals itself. It's more like a wave. There's ebbs

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>and flows, and that's gonna be natural. Some days the

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>wave is gonna be really big and all I can

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>do is anchor myself to the beach. And some days,

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the waves will barely brust my feet and

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that will just be and that's normal. So that helped

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot. But also like we're not just working through, Yes,

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the grief, that is definitely the main priority, but also

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been working through, you know, like unearthing why sometimes

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time having the hard conversations and

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like on the cusp of finally being able to

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>shake some of that so I can be free of that.

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>If there is one heavy thing that hangs around my

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>neck outside of the grief, it has been hanging around

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>my neck since I was in elementary school? Is why

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>am I afraid to say the hard things? And I

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>know why I'm afraid to say the hard things. And

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been practicing saying the hard things and I'm getting

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>so much better at it. And so I just don't

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I would do without therapy, because it just

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>would have been this thing that I got used to

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>dragging along with me. And so I just encourage, like,

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, asking for help whatever that might look like.

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It might look like coaching, it might look like therapy.

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But this black girl over here is here only because

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of you know, my ability to have help through this journey,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like you know, professionally, personally and otherwise. And so just

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a black girl brown boost for therapy and black therapists.

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Doctor Green is amazing. You know, there's

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we could talk about, sister girl talk. You

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>know that I don't have to explain what I mean.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And She's like, no, I got exactly, I'm picking up

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>what you putting down, Tiffany.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm such a huge fan

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>of therapy too, and I also feel like getting it

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>before you absolutely need it should be normalized too, because

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 2>for me, it's like the mental health emergency Fund, like

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I may not need it, but I'm still going to

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>be squirreling away, you know, some money. So that and

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>by money, I mean having my biweekly appointments, even if

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like there's something that I need, because

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even you, after what you went through, I'm

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>so glad. I know you had that moment where you

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 2>weren't sure she could even really see you because of

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the state laws and stuff. But thankfully she could. But

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>how amazing. And then you don't have to tell someone

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>all about you and start from scratch. And that I

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>have someone because with my life, it's always something. Eventually,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>there will always be something. So I love that. I

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.959
<v Speaker 2>love it. So what can I boost today? I actually, ooh,

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>this is what I wanted to boost. So I read

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>this article about these tenants in the Bronx and I

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>thought this the whole story isn't incredible, and we'll put

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>the article in the show links. But the headline is

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>a landlord underestimated his tenants. Now they could own the building. Okay,

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>So a new landlord came into the Bronx, bought a

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>building and threatened to raise rents and kick out the tenants.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 2>But the tenants banded together, and because they took this

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>landlord to court, they have now each been able to

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>purchase their apartments for guess what. This is a Manhattan

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>apartment in the Bronx two five hundred dollars each. Wow,

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 2>this is a dozen tenants from most small Bronx apartment building.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So I love this story. We'll share the We'll share

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the link in the show notes. But I love it

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>David versus Goliath, especially at a time in New York

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>where I've got friends who are finally moving back to

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>New York post pandemic. Well it's not post pandemic, but

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, you could get apartments in New York in

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty twenty twenty one for really for a lot

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>lower rent because everyone was going the other direction. But

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>now the rents are going back up, like we're talking

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>double digit rent increases, some even more than that. So

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I love this story. I thought it was just a cute,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>little not even cute and exciting David versus Goliath where

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>the David's actually won. Let's talk about the picture is

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>wearing my target dress. Yeah, I also have I'm like you.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I love a target dress. I mean, is there anything

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>better than the target dress? It just really isn't.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 2>This particular dress traumatized me because it it buttons all

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the way down the front and I had one. This

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>was can I go there? I'm gonna go there. I

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>was on the way to work in the before times.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I had this dress on plus like a bag that

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>went across my you know, strapped across the front or whatever.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Slowly but surely, each of those buttons was popping open

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>on the sixth train and it was it was it

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 2>was a.

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Given a show girl.

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, was I giving it. I've never been

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>so mortified in my life when this woman tapped me

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and she was like ma'am and she looked down and

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh oh, oh.

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Mandy was holding off to the pole and working a

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>pole at the same time.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>And then in the subway, listen, if you've never been

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a working woman who had to go to CBS with

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>safety pins and pin herself into a dress on a

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>work call, you know, then have you really lived? Have

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you ever really found success? All Right? That's my break

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and my my yes, my boost for the Bronx tenants.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to y'all.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh this was nice, did you guys? Miss us My

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>love language is words of information. I need to hear it.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Tell us, yes, tell us, shout us out on ig

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>We're at Brown Ambition Podcast. Thank y'all again, and quick

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>acknowledgment to our two time Webby Award winning show speaking

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>about you know, getting our flowers. Y'all helped us get

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>one of those webbys, so thank you for that. It

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>feels good. We're getting back Ish in a group. Yes, Ish,

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>we're also matching in more ways than one today.

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I know I've both got a hair up in our show.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I know too much, little dainty necklaces. Yes, it's good

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 2>to have.

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<v Speaker 1>You back to Oh, it's good to be Backish.

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