Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, ooh got that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 2: We're black, we'd brawn, ambition, ambition, Wow, dressed like Destiny's child,
Speaker 2: throw back clips, Mama Tina's always.
Speaker 1: Instead of We're Dusty, get it? Instead of Destiny Dusty
Speaker 1: shop just a little dusty.
Speaker 2: Just a little junkier. Yes, Oh that's all good. It's
Speaker 2: been so long I haven't been in a single mood
Speaker 2: without your babes. I'm glad to be back ish back ish, Yes,
Speaker 2: I love that, giving yourself free to define it however
Speaker 2: the hell you want. I'm exhausted from Mother's Day. I
Speaker 2: have to be honest.
Speaker 1: Did the baby make you anything? In school?
Speaker 2: It's a lot of freaking work to have to be
Speaker 2: a mom on Mother's Day. And every mom that I've
Speaker 2: run into since yesterday we just all look at each
Speaker 2: other like you're out here too. You don't want to
Speaker 2: be yep. You just want to take a nap, don't you.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: But they keep making us do things, the brunches, and
Speaker 2: it's great. You know, Rio made me his first little
Speaker 2: he's big enough now he can actually, like, you know,
Speaker 2: sign a card while he scribbles. But yeah, and he
Speaker 2: made They made the kids did little wind chimes for
Speaker 2: us at take care. So it's so so proud of himself.
Speaker 2: When he walked in and gave it to me, it
Speaker 2: was adorable.
Speaker 1: But I gotta keep it forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 2: I will because it's his full little wind chime. It's
Speaker 2: not like I don't know an ashtray. That's what I
Speaker 2: used to make my mom's. But oh my god, that's
Speaker 2: not cool anymore.
Speaker 1: Let me think about the times, right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's like my sister Carol, like her her son Roman
Speaker 1: made her some little like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a flower vase or
Speaker 1: like whatever, but they had like his picture on it,
Speaker 1: and he told her like if she didn't right, he
Speaker 1: was gonna take it back.
Speaker 2: Of course he would say that. So now me, there
Speaker 2: is a did you check the terms and conditions of this?
Speaker 2: I mean the behavior clause?
Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't believe it. She was like, you
Speaker 1: can't take it back? He said, I can't, and I will.
Speaker 1: And then Amelia created a chart where it's like she
Speaker 1: found that they have this behavior chart for her where
Speaker 1: literally it's just chart, mommy chart, and every day because
Speaker 1: like in school. I guess they have a little box.
Speaker 1: If you behave you get a check. If you don't,
Speaker 1: you get an X. So apparently they got a running
Speaker 1: chart for her in their room. Can you imagine judging
Speaker 1: her mom?
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I can't imagine it. The people. She's lost control,
Speaker 2: that's what.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: They literally she lost control.
Speaker 1: The calls coming in from inside the house. She took it.
Speaker 1: She put in our group chat. She was like, look
Speaker 1: at these dag on kids check deciding if I was
Speaker 1: good today.
Speaker 2: We do that ourselves in our own minds. We don't
Speaker 2: need the kids to criticize us. We're already bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a que did cook for me. Husband did cook,
Speaker 2: but in order for him to have all of the hours,
Speaker 2: he needed to do things like shop and cook a
Speaker 2: meal as like babysitter. Didn't you didn't think about that? Nope? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be sitting here and it's raining cats
Speaker 2: and dogs. So I was really stuck indoors with my
Speaker 2: wild child. But it was lovely. Long story short though,
Speaker 2: I booked a massage for myself tomorrow so we all
Speaker 2: make Tuesday, when everyone's at daycare and work and out
Speaker 2: of my damn way, we're making Tuesday Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: Okay, we gonna be our It's like, no, you have
Speaker 1: to create space and time. I was on my neighbor
Speaker 1: and next door I was like, I've been looking to purchase,
Speaker 1: like you know, like another home or whatever. And my
Speaker 1: neighbor next door looks like he was like gearing up
Speaker 1: to move. And then a friend of mine told me, girl, like,
Speaker 1: you know how there's like financial stuff that happens in
Speaker 1: the news, but then it's like it hits home. So
Speaker 1: she was supposed to buy a house around the corner.
Speaker 1: House is really beautiful. It's really hard to get into
Speaker 1: this neighborhood. She found it. She had a great interest
Speaker 1: that she locked in for three percent, which is awesome
Speaker 1: historical lows we all know. But the problem is is
Speaker 1: that the seller's agent was slow. And if you don't
Speaker 1: know anything about interest rates is typically the bank will
Speaker 1: give you a specific number of days, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's thirty days or whatever to secure like whatever, basically
Speaker 1: to get all your stuff together. So she had done
Speaker 1: all of her stuff and gotten all her stuff together,
Speaker 1: and the seller's agent, so that means the people that
Speaker 1: represent the people who are selling the house were supposed
Speaker 1: to get their stuff together, and they did not the agent.
Speaker 2: So the ratelock expired, yes, and she.
Speaker 1: Went from three percent to six percent, and now she
Speaker 1: can't afford the house.
Speaker 2: Rates at three percent, like that was a couple months ago,
Speaker 2: like rates took gone back up. Now that's the raising.
Speaker 1: Rates, I know. So you know she is livid. Now
Speaker 1: here's the thing, you know, Like folks don't really understand
Speaker 1: that sometimes, Like so if your rate goes up, it
Speaker 1: makes the price of the house, not necessarily go up,
Speaker 1: but it certainly makes the monthly ay, monthly payment go up.
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, who someone who could
Speaker 1: afford this five hundred thousand dollars home can only afford
Speaker 1: a four hundred and fifty thousand dollars home because they
Speaker 1: can't afford the monthly payments of the five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars home unless the interest rate was super low. And
Speaker 1: so now you're gonna have homes that it's like some
Speaker 1: of these homes are gonna have to adjust their prices
Speaker 1: just because people who could afford them, you know, with
Speaker 1: the lower interest rate, are not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: afford them now. So it's like, yikes, tell me we're
Speaker 1: headed for a recession. Without telling me we were heading for
Speaker 1: a recession.
Speaker 2: Child, I know's that's the whispers out there, and then
Speaker 2: the stock market. You know, I'm usually pretty good. This
Speaker 2: is not our first rodeo. How long you've been doing
Speaker 2: this show? Seven years now? How many different stock market
Speaker 2: dips have we come and said to y'all, calm down,
Speaker 2: is gonna be all right? Don't look ooh. I was
Speaker 2: like this last night looking at my four one not
Speaker 2: my four to one K, but my well, you know,
Speaker 2: my four to one k's that I'm now consolidate into
Speaker 2: my you know, my one central brokerage account. And I'm
Speaker 2: here's the thing, you know, on your brokerage account, you
Speaker 2: can view the returns from like year to date, one
Speaker 2: year ago, five years. I like to start with a
Speaker 2: ten year Outlook, how has this performed over ten years?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you know, it's up. I
Speaker 2: don't I forget what the double digits you know? Up? Okay,
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you look to how I've been doing
Speaker 2: since January eight, ain't a pretty picture. I lost. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was down negative, negative, negative, But let's talk about
Speaker 2: why and what's going on it seems like a million
Speaker 2: different things. One, the FED is raising interest rates, yes,
Speaker 2: and businesses aka those things that make up the stock
Speaker 2: market don't love higher borrowing costs. In general, inflation is
Speaker 2: still krai krak, like insanely crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, it's looking like ninety eighty Some of y'all wasn't
Speaker 1: even born then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about to google it right now? What is
Speaker 2: inflation rate? What's it been like? Eight percent? It's forty years.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been as high as it is.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm forty two, so I was two years old.
Speaker 1: We left experienced this craziness eight.
Speaker 2: And a half percent.
Speaker 1: I just checked high. You know, why did I Why
Speaker 1: did that march? Why did many make me do this?
Speaker 1: I just checked, like, don't For the last three months,
Speaker 1: I'm down twenty three basically twenty four percent. Yo, that's cristy.
Speaker 2: Quick quick, look at the ten year old look quick qick.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, for the all time of all time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've all come up fourteen percent of all time. See,
Speaker 1: there we go, and.
Speaker 2: The peddercatter anxiety starts to relay. Okay, yes, but I
Speaker 2: really had to do that because it's stressful. It's like
Speaker 2: should I be doing something different?
Speaker 1: No, No, the truth, Well that's not true. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We started off Frans anyway, So that's
Speaker 1: all right. So the thing is is that during the
Speaker 1: last major recession two thousand and nine, and that's when
Speaker 1: wealth was made for so many people. You hear people
Speaker 1: say that over and over and over again, and then
Speaker 1: we lose our minds every time. We have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to grow wealth in this way. And the reason why
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to grow wealth in this way
Speaker 1: is that there are things that are legitimately down, like
Speaker 1: this is not a good company down, And there are
Speaker 1: things that are down situationally like this is a good company,
Speaker 1: but everybody down, so you down to So if you
Speaker 1: have companies that you've been studying and you know this
Speaker 1: is actually like a really good company, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: just the market itself, because the market goes up and down,
Speaker 1: up and down, that you might say, I'm going to
Speaker 1: invest in like the overall market through an ETF, which
Speaker 1: is like a group of stocks and bonds and other
Speaker 1: financial instruments that you can purchase that mimics what the
Speaker 1: market does. You know, this is not certainly not investment advice,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying in general that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when the market is down, it may present an opportunity
Speaker 1: to stock up on things that are quote unquote on sale.
Speaker 1: But remember, in order for something to be on sale,
Speaker 1: it actually has to be the real value. It's really
Speaker 1: worth the value. It just happens to be temporarily discounted.
Speaker 1: That's the key to investing is finding things that are
Speaker 1: temporarily discounted, stocking up when you're on sale, and when
Speaker 1: they return the regular price, getting you behind on Etsy
Speaker 1: and settle them for full price, y'all. That is what
Speaker 1: So there's real opportunity here that yes, you might have
Speaker 1: lost money, but know that over the last hundred years,
Speaker 1: the market has always gone back up and exceeded where
Speaker 1: it was previously. So if we were to look back,
Speaker 1: you know, last fifty years, one hundred years, we know
Speaker 1: that that is likely to happen. Of course, no one
Speaker 1: knows the future, but it might be an opportunity to
Speaker 1: like stock up. I'm certainly looking I have a stock
Speaker 1: or an investment WhatsApp chat and we're always talking about
Speaker 1: things like you know, what are you gonna pick up
Speaker 1: that's on sale? So what about you, mandra how are
Speaker 1: you going to be riding this wave?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I love? Well, I want to
Speaker 2: talk about something else. I love this podcast called The Indicator,
Speaker 2: and I have to shout them out. They are like
Speaker 2: a ten minute, quick little They basically pick one economic
Speaker 2: indicator and they kind of dive into it each week,
Speaker 2: and I love it. It's a great little nugget of
Speaker 2: a show. And last week's episode had me really noodling
Speaker 2: because they were talking about eye bonds, which don't sound
Speaker 2: sexy at all. You think about bond savings bonds and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, that thing that grandma bought me, you know,
Speaker 2: in the early nineties or or eighties or whatnot. But
Speaker 2: inflation bonds have been getting really, really sexy. And there's
Speaker 2: this one particular bond called the eye bond, which they
Speaker 2: talked about and then after I heard about it, I
Speaker 2: was like googling it and really interested. But because of inflation,
Speaker 2: they basically created this product called the ie bond back
Speaker 2: in the nineties to give investors an alternative, like another
Speaker 2: way to invest their money that was relatively safe, that
Speaker 2: was actually backed by the government, so you're never going
Speaker 2: to lose the money that you put in and it
Speaker 2: had a guaranteed interest rate. And because of how it's
Speaker 2: called the inflation bond, the eebond, because it is meant
Speaker 2: to protect you against inflation. Now, before you get too excited,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell you what the interest rate
Speaker 2: is today. Guaranteed nine point six two percent interest rate guaranteed, guaranteed. Right,
Speaker 2: you can only put ten thousand dollars in a year. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's the one caveat. But it exists now, right,
Speaker 2: inflation bonds, it exists. It's not as it's not a scam.
Speaker 1: Girl. If you see me, I'm living and I know
Speaker 1: risk adverse investor like you, You're like, I'm like ibond
Speaker 1: for when I speak to Angelie, my financial advisor this
Speaker 1: coming week, I'm like, girl, please explain ibond nine point percent?
Speaker 2: You said nine point six two. Nine point six two.
Speaker 2: I'll look at my old friend Ken getting quoted in
Speaker 2: this article about them. Now. This is Ken, my friend Ken.
Speaker 2: We used to work together at when I was at
Speaker 2: a couple companies ago. He's the founder of a website
Speaker 2: called depositi Accounts dot com. When you talk about the
Speaker 2: you know, revenge of the Nerds, and like people who
Speaker 2: are obsessed with conservative, you know, investments. Ken Tuoman is
Speaker 2: like the ring leader and he's amazing. So he's I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's just dancing and having a party right now.
Speaker 2: Everyone's thinking eebonds are sexy, But I yeah, I read
Speaker 2: about it, and I'm actually I'm thinking less about my
Speaker 2: investments these days, and I just don't have the bandwidth.
Speaker 2: But my dad is finally getting his act together as
Speaker 2: sixty two no shout out to my dad, and he
Speaker 2: had me open him up a brokerage account at Vanguard
Speaker 2: and he put in, you know, some money and I'm
Speaker 2: meant to be figuring out how to invest it, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, duh, iebond, Like, at least that's the first
Speaker 2: step for someone like him who's in his early sixties
Speaker 2: and he needs to he literally needs to hedge against inflation.
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what the eyebond is meant to do.
Speaker 2: It's meant to, at the minimum, keep your money protected
Speaker 2: against inflation so that the dollar you put in today
Speaker 2: will at least be a dollar you know down the road.
Speaker 2: But because of how high inflation is, we just said,
Speaker 2: like what eight nine percent has? How crazy? So the
Speaker 2: eyebond rate has gone up, so if y'all want to
Speaker 2: look into it, it got my little ears perked up
Speaker 2: this past weekend and anyway, But those limitations the whole
Speaker 2: like only ten thousand things. I think it's ten thousand
Speaker 2: per year, and on top of that it's only you know,
Speaker 2: nine point six percent is exciting, especially when you think
Speaker 2: about how much do we lose? You said twenty something percent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but still over the ten year period. What I think
Speaker 2: I was up like you said fourteen, I haven't looked
Speaker 2: at mine, but double digits, right, So that you don't
Speaker 2: have the potential to be as high as a stock market.
Speaker 2: So that's why it's obviously not the only answer, but
Speaker 2: it can be one one, just one investment that I
Speaker 2: was thinking about outside.
Speaker 1: So that's what they call it, like a hedge, right,
Speaker 1: because basically when you do that, it's like like, for example,
Speaker 1: for those of you're like, what does that mean when
Speaker 1: people say they're hedging their bets, it means then as
Speaker 1: they take a risk over here and we all know
Speaker 1: which way it's gonna go, you might go to twenty
Speaker 1: three percent, thirty percent, whatever. You hedge your bets by saying,
Speaker 1: let me keep some things aside for safety. For that way,
Speaker 1: I can only fall but so far, because it's like
Speaker 1: I can you know, with great risk comes great reward.
Speaker 1: So we could go go go go this side and
Speaker 1: then over here. It's like, you know, we can only fall,
Speaker 1: but so much. So with any of these things, really,
Speaker 1: the key is figuring out the balance for you. You know,
Speaker 1: how much do I want to put in like quote
Speaker 1: unquote safer investments and how much do I want to
Speaker 1: put investments that have the ape the potential to go
Speaker 1: as high as possible, but just no, with great height
Speaker 1: comes great falls. Yeah, so you just got to know
Speaker 1: like what that balance is for you.
Speaker 2: Well, one last thing on the ibond, because I did
Speaker 2: bring up this question. Here's the rules. You can put
Speaker 2: up to ten thousand dollars in ebonds per person per year. Okay,
Speaker 2: you have to go to Treasurydirect dot gov where you
Speaker 2: can purchase them, and then you can actually if you're
Speaker 2: getting a federal income tax refund, you can buy up
Speaker 2: to an additional five thousand dollars worth using your income
Speaker 2: tax refund. So if you're a couple and you're filing
Speaker 2: jointly or purchasing these jointly, that means you can buy
Speaker 2: up to twenty five thousand dollars worth per year. So
Speaker 2: definitely a conversation to be had with a individual financial planner,
Speaker 2: not financial vesties us.
Speaker 1: What are you reading that from? Because I'm literally gonna
Speaker 1: eat email on Julie that that.
Speaker 2: My girl and currents from the New York Times. You
Speaker 2: want me to, I'll send you the link right now.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, please do yes and check out that episode
Speaker 2: of the Indicator. Shout out to them. I love them.
Speaker 2: They are my my walk companions on Friday. You'd be
Speaker 2: so proud of me. I'm doing a lot of my
Speaker 2: early morning I don't have early morning business calls. I
Speaker 2: usually have a coaching call every every day at ten am. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I've started a walking regimen. Regimen sounds to belitaristic.
Speaker 2: I dropped the kid off at daycare. I go to
Speaker 2: a park that's a beautiful park and near me, and
Speaker 2: I've been walking and forty five minutes has turned into
Speaker 2: like two hours sometimes. And I'm doing coaching calls. And
Speaker 2: my clients don't mind that I'm walking around. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: they probably really don't mind because they love it because
Speaker 2: you are you are. It's a teachable moment of what
Speaker 2: it looks like when you align yourself, you get paid
Speaker 2: what you feel is fair, and you can walk and
Speaker 2: talk like Mandra So I love that you had to
Speaker 2: get me out of the space. And it's cold down here,
Speaker 2: and plus it's been like sunny lately or sunny today anyway,
Speaker 2: so I was like, no way am I going to
Speaker 2: sit down here if I don't have to.
Speaker 1: I know, I try to, you know, I try to
Speaker 1: get my daily walk in. And something I happit that
Speaker 1: I picked up when I was in Bali is I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm going to Bali, But what am
Speaker 1: I going to do as far as exercise? Although I
Speaker 1: knew i'd do more hiking and things that normal because
Speaker 1: you know, everything's so beautiful, but still I wanted like
Speaker 1: to bring something with me. And I was at Marshall's
Speaker 1: and you know they have like this exercise section and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, a jump rope. I have that
Speaker 1: jump rope since I was like a kid, and so
Speaker 1: I got a jump ope. And when I tell you
Speaker 1: I enjoy jump roping, I never thought. I mean, now
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these the boxer. Here's the boxes,
Speaker 1: be like girl, and it sounds more like send a
Speaker 1: RelA just the yellow what like my jump? Yes, it's
Speaker 1: definitely giving sixth grade Tiffany. But when I tell you
Speaker 1: that the inches that I have shred as a result
Speaker 1: of jumping rope and then after I jump, very do
Speaker 1: a little some like calisthetics like sometimes some ludgends and
Speaker 1: squads and some crunches. You know, nothing crazy, you know,
Speaker 1: So but that alone, I mean, it wasn't even that
Speaker 1: I dropped a ton of like weight or anything. It
Speaker 1: was but the inches because like the outfit that I
Speaker 1: wore to Bali, I always have like a travel pair
Speaker 1: of jeans and shirt. It was smaller when I came back,
Speaker 1: and when I had stepped on the scale, fem when
Speaker 1: I came back, because I didn't step in any scales
Speaker 1: and Bali, I was like, okay, I actually had put
Speaker 1: on like two pounds. But yet my sister's like, did
Speaker 1: you eat when you were out there? I'm like why,
Speaker 1: She's like, you you look so like you look like
Speaker 1: you lost a lot, and I had not. It was just,
Speaker 1: you know, like I just really shred inches. And since
Speaker 1: then I've just muscle yes, and so I've been jumping
Speaker 1: rope in the morning in the evening, and I find
Speaker 1: that when I jump rope before bed, I actually sleep better.
Speaker 1: And so I honestly when I say I love it
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of a control free I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this about mandr and I, because she
Speaker 1: is one too, and I like it.
Speaker 2: So she's gonna drag me down with you.
Speaker 1: That's fine if I'm falling down the rabbit hole. But
Speaker 1: what I love about the jump rope is that, you know,
Speaker 1: like the peloton is the instructor telling me what to do.
Speaker 1: I'm like, leave me alone. The treadmill is like the
Speaker 1: treadmill selling me well. With the jump rope at any
Speaker 1: moment I can stop, I could do as much or
Speaker 1: as little, you know, I mean, it doesn't require like
Speaker 1: all of this like thought process. I jump rope now,
Speaker 1: like talking on the phone with my sister in the morning,
Speaker 1: because it helps, like you know, talking and jumping rope,
Speaker 1: you know, like helps like with me because I had
Speaker 1: asthma as a kid, so it helps me like strengthen
Speaker 1: my lungs. I've heard that it's really good for bone
Speaker 1: density jumping rope.
Speaker 2: I love that you're bringing this up because not long ago.
Speaker 2: I read an article that said that was like jump
Speaker 2: roping is it?
Speaker 1: If you like?
Speaker 2: Yes, it was all about exactly what you're saying, how
Speaker 2: it helps with bone density, how it's a good cardio workout,
Speaker 2: and how it ads what's it when you actually your
Speaker 2: body weight? Like that's why walking and running are good too,
Speaker 2: because you you have to carry yourself in it. I
Speaker 2: don't know, probably something scientific that I'm not qualified to
Speaker 2: speak on, but because of that article, I bought my
Speaker 2: I bought me a little seven dollars jump rope. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I can. I haven't been. I wish I could
Speaker 2: say I was, as I had gotten more in the
Speaker 2: habit of it. But what I liked is I could
Speaker 2: put it on my pocket and take it on a
Speaker 2: walk with me, you know, whip it out. It is fun,
Speaker 2: though it does take you back to being a kid.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I'm like literally like look at me, and
Speaker 1: I'm tellingly and I'm like, damn it. But I so
Speaker 1: I had this thing. So in the beginning, I was like,
Speaker 1: well how long do I jump? I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: how about now? How long? Just do a hundred rotations?
Speaker 1: So I'd be like one to mess up? Okay, three,
Speaker 1: four or five six messed up? Okay, So then then
Speaker 1: when a hundred rotations got to be easy, because in
Speaker 1: the beginning, I would do like four and be like
Speaker 1: I need a minute. Yeah, right, then that got easy.
Speaker 1: Then I would do stuff like okay, one Drake song
Speaker 1: because you know, he'd be crooning for a while. Then
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, two Drake songs. So then you know,
Speaker 1: so literally I'll set it and now I'll be like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to a podcast and jump rope.
Speaker 1: So it makes it easy to like, I like to
Speaker 1: pair it with a thing, so I'm not really thinking
Speaker 1: about the jumping of the rope. Or maybe I'll say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump rope this whole conversation with my sister.
Speaker 1: But when I tell you it's been awesome, I've been
Speaker 1: intermittent fasting. I had already done that already. I like
Speaker 1: intermittent fasting. I like, like, I'm not a breakfast person,
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't eat late anymore for the
Speaker 1: most part, but like, you know, maybe I eat my
Speaker 1: first meal like eleven thirty twelve because my fast is
Speaker 1: eleven thirty twelve to seven thirty so anytime after eleven thirty,
Speaker 1: but also too, like just listening to my body, like
Speaker 1: I'll eat something. I'm realizing chicken doesn't really do me right,
Speaker 1: you know, like like beef and chicken. I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: so I've cut that out. I had not eaten beef
Speaker 1: in a while anyway, But really it's seafood, heavy, heavy, vegetable.
Speaker 1: The more vegetables I eat, the better I feel. So
Speaker 1: knowing that, I'm just like, that's why I'm skin You
Speaker 1: look at my skin. For those of you who are
Speaker 1: not watching our YouTube or not watching her, who are
Speaker 1: not following us on Insta, you're missing out because Mandy
Speaker 1: and I skin is glowing.
Speaker 2: I need sunglasses. The glow is I'm also kind of annoyed.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, another person being like vegetables and exercise.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I had decided because I was doing that obviously.
Speaker 1: After the drill passed her, I was like, because everybody's
Speaker 1: fiving me like cookies and cakes and this and that,
Speaker 1: and I was raking it in. But before he had
Speaker 1: passed away, I had actually gone to the doctor and
Speaker 1: two visits twice. My I'd never had high blood pressure before,
Speaker 1: and my blood pressure was elevated and she was like, hmmm.
Speaker 1: The first time, she was just like, eh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you ran up the stairs to come see me.
Speaker 1: Second time, she said, she mean, you never have elevated
Speaker 1: bloo pressure. This is the second time. But by then
Speaker 1: I had packed on like twenty pounds, like this is
Speaker 1: pre passing. And I was like, yeah, you know same.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, I'll do this, I'll
Speaker 1: do that. I would stick to something for a week
Speaker 1: or two. I bought the peloton and all these other things.
Speaker 1: But you know, I really started to worry because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, blood pressure is really nothing to play with it.
Speaker 1: And then she told me if you come back and
Speaker 1: your blood pressure is still high, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: put you on medication. I was like medication, Like I'm seventy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Tiffany. And so once Yeral passed away,
Speaker 1: I said to myself, Tiffany, we can't do both. Like
Speaker 1: I know that you want to eat all the things,
Speaker 1: but I can't. I have to just focus on this
Speaker 1: grief right now, girl, I cannot also stress about your health.
Speaker 1: So it's like I had to almost step outside of
Speaker 1: myself and say, you know, like you you know, we
Speaker 1: could like see me in the year sis if we
Speaker 1: went to over eat, you know, but right now, you
Speaker 1: need to focus on this one thing. And so that's
Speaker 1: what pushed me to say, I cannot also be afraid
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have a heart attack, like girl,
Speaker 1: I'll choose something. And so that's why I got the
Speaker 1: jump rope. That's why honestly I chose Bali because I
Speaker 1: knew I could reset my diet. And I did, you know,
Speaker 1: like I do this thing that my sister hates, what
Speaker 1: I call it hot salad, so like I don't cook
Speaker 1: y'all roast, I know, that's what I say.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm about to get me a hot sala
Speaker 3: It's just like I don't swear so but really what
Speaker 3: it is is I go to Whole Foods and I
Speaker 3: get all the warm, warm vegetables, you know, because one
Speaker 3: of the reasons, like one of the deterrents for me
Speaker 3: eating vegetables is like I don't always want crispy, crunchy cold,
Speaker 3: and so I'll just go to you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I always I'll go to Whole Foods and I'll get like,
Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of like and all the little
Speaker 3: containers like beans and this containers and another set of
Speaker 3: beans here, and then like the cooked vegetables and all
Speaker 3: their separate containers.
Speaker 1: And then I have maybe four or five containers at home,
Speaker 1: and then I will like you know, like put them
Speaker 1: all into like a pan a walk and then I'll
Speaker 1: seize them up and eat that for like breakfast or
Speaker 1: lunch or dinner. And so, but that has helped a
Speaker 1: lot because I'm like, you know, sometimes I do like
Speaker 1: the crunchy you know, cold, but you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: want something warm. And beans and mushrooms have been really
Speaker 1: like my best friend when it comes to needing that
Speaker 1: more robust feeling what I'm eating, you know, and being
Speaker 1: full longer. So it's helped significantly. But yeah, I'm down
Speaker 1: like twenty something pounds. I don't know if y'all could sell,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm down like twenty something pounds.
Speaker 2: And you like feel you look like you say a feeling,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: Yes, but like I feel healthy, That's what I'll say,
Speaker 1: Like I do. I feel physically stronger and healthier. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so for those of you who might be struggle laying,
Speaker 1: consider hot salad and a jump rope.
Speaker 2: The hot salad jump rope. I'm sure it'll be a best.
Speaker 1: Because you know, people don't feelze Like my friend always
Speaker 1: says that bad health is like people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, good food is expensive, like healthy food is expensive.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bad health is even more expensive.
Speaker 2: You're so right, And it's so annoying that you can
Speaker 2: be so smart even to grief, to.
Speaker 1: Be because it's true.
Speaker 2: It's one more kind damn thing to think about and
Speaker 2: think that. I'm just like this again, Mandy, another one,
Speaker 2: another fifty pounds. Come on, Hey, we're all on our
Speaker 2: own journeys, right, So we're all on our own journeys.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back with more a brown ambition. All right, ba fan,
Speaker 2: we're back. Can I tell you a little secret though
Speaker 2: that I'm really excited about. And I decided I'm gonna
Speaker 2: speak my secrets out loud. But at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year, one of my one of my goals was
Speaker 2: to work on a book proposal. Okay, so I could, yes,
Speaker 2: I could, you know, get my own, get my own
Speaker 2: Uh what's that on you? What do you call that
Speaker 2: behind you? That picture? I want my own book cover
Speaker 2: on the wall behind me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: But I know I've had this, I've had this idea,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't happening right. Like I'm someone I've written
Speaker 2: my whole life. I've always wanted to write a book,
Speaker 2: you know, and I know I have it in me
Speaker 2: and I keep saying that, but yet we're the book
Speaker 2: at No. Never had it, never got that agent, agents
Speaker 2: reach out, and never did anything, you know, And I realized, Okay,
Speaker 2: so what do I need to change? I need some accountability.
Speaker 2: So I'm working with a book proposal coach me accountable,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to get this book. I'm not ready
Speaker 2: to like talk about titles and stuff, but you know,
Speaker 2: i'll tell you. I'll tell you offline, Tiff, now that
Speaker 2: you're backish, but I'm really excited and and I know, Tiff,
Speaker 2: you just went through this too, but I'll share y'all.
Speaker 2: So the journey is for me proposal first, and then
Speaker 2: shop it to agents, and then agent gets it and
Speaker 2: hopefully agent takes it to a publisher and then all that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not focused on that now. The focus now
Speaker 2: is just months, several months work of proposal writing. So
Speaker 2: that's going to be my summer activity, and I'm really
Speaker 2: it feels so damn good to have taken one step
Speaker 2: that I know. It's like, Okay, I'm actually doing this
Speaker 2: damn thing. It feels and I'm.
Speaker 1: Proud of you for it. Because I got the agent
Speaker 1: first and then the proposal was due. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie the level of stress it was so because I
Speaker 1: had never been Yeah, but to your point, I had
Speaker 1: not thought it through, like what do I want to write?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait so but but I will tell you the
Speaker 1: best piece of advice and my agent, Heather gave me
Speaker 1: was because I was like, can I do like.
Speaker 2: A little five page proposal?
Speaker 1: She was like, you can, but she said the issue
Speaker 1: with doing that is that but one, when you do
Speaker 1: a more flushed out proposal, that means that you and
Speaker 1: your head are really clear about what you're going to write.
Speaker 1: And also two, it makes the person who's buying the
Speaker 1: book clear about what you're going to write, because if
Speaker 1: you do a shorter one, you know, the publisher might
Speaker 1: be like, let's turn left, and you're like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: my intention was to turn right, but it's not in
Speaker 1: the proposal, so how would they have known that? You know?
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, So I told myself, girl,
Speaker 1: I don't care what I'm talk about. I'm about to
Speaker 1: do this ten page proposal seventy pages later. Yeah, between fifty.
Speaker 2: And one hundred is the estimate. Yes, that's right on
Speaker 2: the nose.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was like seventy pages late. But
Speaker 1: I when I tell you, I'm so glad that I
Speaker 1: wrote the proposal in the way that I did because
Speaker 1: it forced me to get clear on what did I
Speaker 1: want to write, and I wrote the like I can
Speaker 1: have it to Mandy. I don't know if I have,
Speaker 1: but I can obviously share my proposal with you. I
Speaker 1: wrote my whole first like introduction chapter for you know,
Speaker 1: and then like you know, like here are the chapters,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm what I'm going to cover. When I
Speaker 1: tell you, it was so helpful because it was like
Speaker 1: the most amazing outline that I just had to fill
Speaker 1: in as I was doing the book. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: the proposal process can be. Truthfully, it's crazy. I almost
Speaker 1: found it harder the proposal process and the actually writing
Speaker 1: of the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's exactly it's all of that. It's clarity,
Speaker 2: it's being focused, it's having all that feedback and I know,
Speaker 2: and that's what's been so daunting, is and I and
Speaker 2: thank you for that, because a lot of generous people
Speaker 2: have shared their proposals with me and and in the
Speaker 2: best way. It's like it's like it forced me to
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, let me get this right. And even
Speaker 2: like speaking to different coaches and who I wanted to
Speaker 2: work with and ended up picking this wonderful woman. I mean,
Speaker 2: we haven't started yet, so I'll endorse her once it's done.
Speaker 2: But but she's actually worked with authors just like me,
Speaker 2: people who and Tiff as well, like you know, people
Speaker 2: who have you know, built a following and have a message,
Speaker 2: but really want to target it and be specific. And
Speaker 2: for me, the book is really just a continuation of
Speaker 2: my business, you know, for me, I know it'll open
Speaker 2: doors to opportunities and just yeah, I you know, but
Speaker 2: one step at a time, and I coach this all
Speaker 2: the time with my clients, is what's the one step
Speaker 2: you did today to get you toward your end goal?
Speaker 2: Just one baby step? And for me, signing that contract
Speaker 2: with her was a big baby step, a big girl step. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I give you one one one piece of advice
Speaker 1: that really helped me aside from like not the proposal itself,
Speaker 1: but just in general this process. So I would just
Speaker 1: say that, figure out what do you want, Meaning like
Speaker 1: for me, I was like, okay, what do I want
Speaker 1: out of this book? And so I was like, well, one,
Speaker 1: I wanted something I could imagine the woman going to
Speaker 1: Barnes and Nobles and picking it off the shelf and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I know what to do when it comes to
Speaker 1: the foundation of my first personal financial life. Like I
Speaker 1: wanted like a almost like a financial bible. So that
Speaker 1: was one I was like, I wanted it was almost
Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm dating myself like an encyclopedia. That's
Speaker 1: how I wanted it to feel. So I was like, one,
Speaker 1: I want to help that woman, the woman who emails
Speaker 1: me and sees me and whole Foods and marshals and says, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: I need help with It's like, here's the foundation. That
Speaker 1: was one. Two to me. It wasn't really about like
Speaker 1: how big my contract was going to because honestly, I
Speaker 1: didn't have a point of reference on how big contracts
Speaker 1: could because I was a new time author as far
Speaker 1: as you know, publishing in this way. But I said,
Speaker 1: I know that I want to see can I do it?
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to sell a hundred thousand copies in
Speaker 1: the year, although I'm not gonna lie. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: like that's like not realistic, a realistic goal. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: You operate in a different universe than the rest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't know. But I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was a lot or little you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I thought, like, you know, I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: ten thousand is really good, twenty five is great over
Speaker 1: fifty years, Okay, girl, we see you. So one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand is like, all right, girl, are you Michelle Obama?
Speaker 1: You know? So I didn't, but that was like my
Speaker 1: number in my head just because I just I'm used
Speaker 1: to working with like my business numbers. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is our goal. And then third, I really wanted
Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller, not for the flex, although
Speaker 1: it's nice flex, really because I wanted to be taken
Speaker 1: more seriously in other circles. And I knew that having
Speaker 1: that stamp was going to allow folks who might be
Speaker 1: like in no shade to influencers because I'm in part
Speaker 1: an influencer on top of financial educator and otherwise. But
Speaker 1: I knew that if I wanted to be taken seriously
Speaker 1: on a broader market, having that stamp of New York
Speaker 1: Times bestseller was going to assist me in doing so.
Speaker 1: So I just share that to say, then, and that's
Speaker 1: just for any of y'all setting any kind of goals,
Speaker 1: like the goal before the goal, because you have to
Speaker 1: that's really the spice to the thing you're creating. That
Speaker 1: had I not set those intents ahead of time, I
Speaker 1: baked in those intentions into the writing of the proposal
Speaker 1: and then the book, and then the marketing and then
Speaker 1: the so really got clear, like I want that woman
Speaker 1: to have her financial bible, and with that New York
Speaker 1: Times bestseller, so it gets me that stamp of approval.
Speaker 1: And there was a certain amount of books I wanted
Speaker 1: to sell, although I just found out Penguin told me,
Speaker 1: like I had a meeting with them last week and
Speaker 1: they were like, the number we have an author portal.
Speaker 1: Almost every publisher has one or big publisher you can
Speaker 1: go in and see your numbers. And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I see my numbers. Uh. One year later, my book
Speaker 1: has sold drum roll, please, one hundred and fifty seven
Speaker 1: thousand copies in one year. I was like, say what now,
Speaker 1: I said the author, Putty, don't say that. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. She's like, I don't know why it's off,
Speaker 1: she said, but they pull numbers like Target calls them
Speaker 1: every week, Barnes and Nobles, Amazon every week. They get
Speaker 1: all the numbers from all the bookstores and whatever. She's like, now,
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: seven thousand cops these in one calendar year, which is insite.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait for your book to come out.
Speaker 2: Book came out, Sorry, girl, I can't.
Speaker 1: Wait to give you all my tips and tracks job like,
Speaker 1: don't do that, oh, Mandy do it? Don't do that, Mandy,
Speaker 1: oh'll do this?
Speaker 2: Well, No, I just told you on last week's show,
Speaker 2: and I'll say it again, and I've said it to
Speaker 2: other people too. The fact that your book did so amazing,
Speaker 2: like you don't even understand. It'll probably take years for
Speaker 2: you to find it, but to figure it out or
Speaker 2: to or even it's not one of those things that
Speaker 2: could maybe ever tangible, but it makes us such a
Speaker 2: big difference still to this day, ten percent or fewer
Speaker 2: books are by people of color, not even women of color,
Speaker 2: people of color, And I feel like if you even
Speaker 2: get into the business category and finance categories and even
Speaker 2: smaller percentage there are so there's so much room for us.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately we're still on this point of we need
Speaker 2: to prove that there's a marketplace and all that bullshit. Right,
Speaker 2: so in such a huge way, you know, and with
Speaker 2: your intentions, I know, you know, being entirely what they
Speaker 2: are about that woman picking your book off the shelf,
Speaker 2: but you creating that book has probably made it easier
Speaker 2: for me to get a book deal, and other people
Speaker 2: have come at you. So again, I will poor, I
Speaker 2: will always give you your flowers, Tiff. You deserve it,
Speaker 2: you do, and I hope, I hope my book can
Speaker 2: do the same. I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: Will y'all gonna be sick of us, sick of us
Speaker 1: over here?
Speaker 2: Give me this book, my untitled book project. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you more about it as I go. Okay, but yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, ah well that post is in a great
Speaker 1: move for some boosty breaky time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a quick let's take a quick little
Speaker 2: commercial break to hear some from some of our sponsors,
Speaker 2: and we'll write back with you our boost and break?
Speaker 2: All right, Wait, what's your boost and break song? I forget,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's now it's time to No. No, it was like
Speaker 1: the Mickey Mouse song is like am I c khy?
Speaker 2: Like? Do the kids even know what that is anymore?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Do you have a version of that you know that
Speaker 2: we could do with I don't know, bad Bunny DJ Khaled,
Speaker 2: something that the youths are into these days.
Speaker 1: No, but I will. I will think of something. I will.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, Like, what's a cute little
Speaker 1: ditty that we could do it too? For now? We
Speaker 1: could just be like, are you gonna boost? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna break? No, we didn't. This is just new.
Speaker 2: In the background. Find us some theme music.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what here, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Brown a bitch and listeners, Mandy and I would love
Speaker 1: a really cute booster break Diddy. Okay, So if you
Speaker 1: can sing us a little songy song and send it
Speaker 1: to us, maybe dms via Instagram? Is that a good
Speaker 1: place to send a little songy song?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Sure, right, dm us on Instagram with your little songy
Speaker 1: song about boosting and breaking brown boosts, brown break, Brown boost,
Speaker 1: brown Break? What you're gonna do? No, that's some bad voice.
Speaker 1: But yeah, see I'm just I'm tap dry. So if
Speaker 1: you have a keep booster breaks song, send it. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll play it, and we will, we will, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll shout out your ig.
Speaker 2: How about that? That sounds good? And I know I'm
Speaker 2: no help because all I can think of is the
Speaker 2: wheels on the bus which was being which was bopping
Speaker 2: in the car this morning, and the ba Keyway theme song.
Speaker 2: But I got nothing, But let's get into it. What're
Speaker 2: you gonna do tif boost or break? Today?
Speaker 1: I am going to boost because I had therapy right before,
Speaker 1: because I know we chatted prior and you were like,
Speaker 1: before this, you took like an hour or two to
Speaker 1: kind of think about the show, and I took the
Speaker 1: hour to like, you know, just kind of like decompressed
Speaker 1: from therapy. So I cannot tell you how helpful therapy
Speaker 1: has been, not just for obviously this grief process, because
Speaker 1: today was like a really rough day, and certainly, you
Speaker 1: know I was telling you my therapist, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: woke up so anxious and I couldn't. I didn't understand why.
Speaker 1: And you know, she helped me to see, like there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of triggers in my house that just
Speaker 1: like I just missing Darrell honestly, and how to see
Speaker 1: grief as a wave, not you know, you hear like
Speaker 1: the five stages of grief. She's like, you know, they've
Speaker 1: since debunked that, therapist, because that's just not how grief
Speaker 1: like reveals itself. It's more like a wave. There's ebbs
Speaker 1: and flows, and that's gonna be natural. Some days the
Speaker 1: wave is gonna be really big and all I can
Speaker 1: do is anchor myself to the beach. And some days,
Speaker 1: you know, the waves will barely brust my feet and
Speaker 1: that will just be and that's normal. So that helped
Speaker 1: a lot. But also like we're not just working through, Yes,
Speaker 1: the grief, that is definitely the main priority, but also
Speaker 1: I've been working through, you know, like unearthing why sometimes
Speaker 1: I have a hard time having the hard conversations and
Speaker 1: I'm like on the cusp of finally being able to
Speaker 1: shake some of that so I can be free of that.
Speaker 1: If there is one heavy thing that hangs around my
Speaker 1: neck outside of the grief, it has been hanging around
Speaker 1: my neck since I was in elementary school? Is why
Speaker 1: am I afraid to say the hard things? And I
Speaker 1: know why I'm afraid to say the hard things. And
Speaker 1: I've been practicing saying the hard things and I'm getting
Speaker 1: so much better at it. And so I just don't
Speaker 1: know what I would do without therapy, because it just
Speaker 1: would have been this thing that I got used to
Speaker 1: dragging along with me. And so I just encourage, like,
Speaker 1: you know, asking for help whatever that might look like.
Speaker 1: It might look like coaching, it might look like therapy.
Speaker 1: But this black girl over here is here only because
Speaker 1: of you know, my ability to have help through this journey,
Speaker 1: like you know, professionally, personally and otherwise. And so just
Speaker 1: a black girl brown boost for therapy and black therapists.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Doctor Green is amazing. You know, there's
Speaker 1: stuff that we could talk about, sister girl talk. You
Speaker 1: know that I don't have to explain what I mean.
Speaker 1: And She's like, no, I got exactly, I'm picking up
Speaker 1: what you putting down, Tiffany.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm such a huge fan
Speaker 2: of therapy too, and I also feel like getting it
Speaker 2: before you absolutely need it should be normalized too, because
Speaker 2: for me, it's like the mental health emergency Fund, like
Speaker 2: I may not need it, but I'm still going to
Speaker 2: be squirreling away, you know, some money. So that and
Speaker 2: by money, I mean having my biweekly appointments, even if
Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's something that I need, because
Speaker 2: I mean, even you, after what you went through, I'm
Speaker 2: so glad. I know you had that moment where you
Speaker 2: weren't sure she could even really see you because of
Speaker 2: the state laws and stuff. But thankfully she could. But
Speaker 2: how amazing. And then you don't have to tell someone
Speaker 2: all about you and start from scratch. And that I
Speaker 2: have someone because with my life, it's always something. Eventually,
Speaker 2: there will always be something. So I love that. I
Speaker 2: love it. So what can I boost today? I actually, ooh,
Speaker 2: this is what I wanted to boost. So I read
Speaker 2: this article about these tenants in the Bronx and I
Speaker 2: thought this the whole story isn't incredible, and we'll put
Speaker 2: the article in the show links. But the headline is
Speaker 2: a landlord underestimated his tenants. Now they could own the building. Okay,
Speaker 2: So a new landlord came into the Bronx, bought a
Speaker 2: building and threatened to raise rents and kick out the tenants.
Speaker 2: But the tenants banded together, and because they took this
Speaker 2: landlord to court, they have now each been able to
Speaker 2: purchase their apartments for guess what. This is a Manhattan
Speaker 2: apartment in the Bronx two five hundred dollars each. Wow,
Speaker 2: this is a dozen tenants from most small Bronx apartment building.
Speaker 2: So I love this story. We'll share the We'll share
Speaker 2: the link in the show notes. But I love it
Speaker 2: David versus Goliath, especially at a time in New York
Speaker 2: where I've got friends who are finally moving back to
Speaker 2: New York post pandemic. Well it's not post pandemic, but
Speaker 2: you know, you could get apartments in New York in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one for really for a lot
Speaker 2: lower rent because everyone was going the other direction. But
Speaker 2: now the rents are going back up, like we're talking
Speaker 2: double digit rent increases, some even more than that. So
Speaker 2: I love this story. I thought it was just a cute,
Speaker 2: little not even cute and exciting David versus Goliath where
Speaker 2: the David's actually won. Let's talk about the picture is
Speaker 2: wearing my target dress. Yeah, I also have I'm like you.
Speaker 1: I love a target dress. I mean, is there anything
Speaker 1: better than the target dress? It just really isn't.
Speaker 2: This particular dress traumatized me because it it buttons all
Speaker 2: the way down the front and I had one. This
Speaker 2: was can I go there? I'm gonna go there. I
Speaker 2: was on the way to work in the before times.
Speaker 2: I had this dress on plus like a bag that
Speaker 2: went across my you know, strapped across the front or whatever.
Speaker 2: Slowly but surely, each of those buttons was popping open
Speaker 2: on the sixth train and it was it was it
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 1: Given a show girl.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, was I giving it. I've never been
Speaker 2: so mortified in my life when this woman tapped me
Speaker 2: and she was like ma'am and she looked down and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh oh, oh.
Speaker 1: Mandy was holding off to the pole and working a
Speaker 1: pole at the same time.
Speaker 2: And then in the subway, listen, if you've never been
Speaker 2: a working woman who had to go to CBS with
Speaker 2: safety pins and pin herself into a dress on a
Speaker 2: work call, you know, then have you really lived? Have
Speaker 2: you ever really found success? All Right? That's my break
Speaker 2: and my my yes, my boost for the Bronx tenants.
Speaker 2: Shout out to y'all.
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Speaker 2: acknowledgment to our two time Webby Award winning show speaking
Speaker 2: about you know, getting our flowers. Y'all helped us get
Speaker 2: one of those webbys, so thank you for that. It
Speaker 2: feels good. We're getting back Ish in a group. Yes, Ish,
Speaker 2: we're also matching in more ways than one today.
Speaker 1: I know I've both got a hair up in our show.
Speaker 2: I know too much, little dainty necklaces. Yes, it's good
Speaker 2: to have.
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