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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 2: We're black, we'd brawn, ambition, ambition, Wow, dressed like Destiny's child,

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Speaker 2: throw back clips, Mama Tina's always.

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Speaker 1: Instead of We're Dusty, get it? Instead of Destiny Dusty

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Speaker 2: Just a little junkier. Yes, Oh that's all good. It's

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Speaker 2: been so long I haven't been in a single mood

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Speaker 2: I love that, giving yourself free to define it however

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Speaker 1: Did the baby make you anything? In school?

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of freaking work to have to be

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Speaker 2: But they keep making us do things, the brunches, and

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Speaker 2: I will because it's his full little wind chime. It's

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Speaker 1: Let me think about the times, right, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It's like my sister Carol, like her her son Roman

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Speaker 2: Of course he would say that. So now me, there

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Speaker 2: is a did you check the terms and conditions of this?

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Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't believe it. She was like, you

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Speaker 1: And then Amelia created a chart where it's like she

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I love? Well, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about something else. I love this podcast called The Indicator,

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Speaker 2: and I have to shout them out. They are like

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Speaker 2: because they were talking about eye bonds, which don't sound

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Speaker 1: What are you reading that from? Because I'm literally gonna

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Speaker 1: so you know, I don't eat late anymore for the

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Speaker 1: most part, but like, you know, maybe I eat my

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Speaker 1: first meal like eleven thirty twelve because my fast is

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty twelve to seven thirty so anytime after eleven thirty,

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Speaker 1: but also too, like just listening to my body, like

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Speaker 1: I'll eat something. I'm realizing chicken doesn't really do me right,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like beef and chicken. I'm like, really,

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Speaker 1: so I've cut that out. I had not eaten beef

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Speaker 1: in a while anyway, But really it's seafood, heavy, heavy, vegetable.

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Speaker 1: The more vegetables I eat, the better I feel. So

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Speaker 1: knowing that, I'm just like, that's why I'm skin You

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Speaker 1: look at my skin. For those of you who are

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Speaker 1: not watching our YouTube or not watching her, who are

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Speaker 1: not following us on Insta, you're missing out because Mandy

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Speaker 1: and I skin is glowing.

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Speaker 2: I need sunglasses. The glow is I'm also kind of annoyed.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, another person being like vegetables and exercise.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I had decided because I was doing that obviously.

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Speaker 1: After the drill passed her, I was like, because everybody's

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Speaker 1: fiving me like cookies and cakes and this and that,

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Speaker 1: and I was raking it in. But before he had

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Speaker 1: passed away, I had actually gone to the doctor and

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Speaker 1: two visits twice. My I'd never had high blood pressure before,

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Speaker 1: and my blood pressure was elevated and she was like, hmmm.

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Speaker 1: The first time, she was just like, eh, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you ran up the stairs to come see me.

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Speaker 1: Second time, she said, she mean, you never have elevated

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Speaker 1: bloo pressure. This is the second time. But by then

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Speaker 1: I had packed on like twenty pounds, like this is

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Speaker 1: pre passing. And I was like, yeah, you know same.

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, I'll do this, I'll

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Speaker 1: do that. I would stick to something for a week

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Speaker 1: or two. I bought the peloton and all these other things.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I really started to worry because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know, blood pressure is really nothing to play with it.

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Speaker 1: And then she told me if you come back and

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Speaker 1: your blood pressure is still high, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: put you on medication. I was like medication, Like I'm seventy,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Tiffany. And so once Yeral passed away,

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Speaker 1: I said to myself, Tiffany, we can't do both. Like

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Speaker 1: I know that you want to eat all the things,

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Speaker 1: but I can't. I have to just focus on this

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Speaker 1: grief right now, girl, I cannot also stress about your health.

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Speaker 1: So it's like I had to almost step outside of

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Speaker 1: myself and say, you know, like you you know, we

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Speaker 1: could like see me in the year sis if we

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Speaker 1: went to over eat, you know, but right now, you

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Speaker 1: need to focus on this one thing. And so that's

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Speaker 1: what pushed me to say, I cannot also be afraid

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to have a heart attack, like girl,

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Speaker 1: I'll choose something. And so that's why I got the

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Speaker 1: jump rope. That's why honestly I chose Bali because I

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Speaker 1: knew I could reset my diet. And I did, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I do this thing that my sister hates, what

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Speaker 1: I call it hot salad, so like I don't cook

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Speaker 1: y'all roast, I know, that's what I say.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm about to get me a hot sala

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Speaker 3: It's just like I don't swear so but really what

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Speaker 3: it is is I go to Whole Foods and I

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Speaker 3: get all the warm, warm vegetables, you know, because one

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Speaker 3: of the reasons, like one of the deterrents for me

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Speaker 3: eating vegetables is like I don't always want crispy, crunchy cold,

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Speaker 3: and so I'll just go to you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: I always I'll go to Whole Foods and I'll get like,

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Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of like and all the little

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Speaker 3: containers like beans and this containers and another set of

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Speaker 3: beans here, and then like the cooked vegetables and all

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Speaker 3: their separate containers.

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Speaker 1: And then I have maybe four or five containers at home,

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Speaker 1: and then I will like you know, like put them

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Speaker 1: all into like a pan a walk and then I'll

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Speaker 1: seize them up and eat that for like breakfast or

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Speaker 1: lunch or dinner. And so, but that has helped a

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Speaker 1: lot because I'm like, you know, sometimes I do like

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Speaker 1: the crunchy you know, cold, but you know, sometimes I

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Speaker 1: want something warm. And beans and mushrooms have been really

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Speaker 1: like my best friend when it comes to needing that

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Speaker 1: more robust feeling what I'm eating, you know, and being

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Speaker 1: full longer. So it's helped significantly. But yeah, I'm down

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Speaker 1: like twenty something pounds. I don't know if y'all could sell,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm down like twenty something pounds.

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Speaker 2: And you like feel you look like you say a feeling,

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but like I feel healthy, That's what I'll say,

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Speaker 1: Like I do. I feel physically stronger and healthier. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so for those of you who might be struggle laying,

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Speaker 1: consider hot salad and a jump rope.

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Speaker 2: The hot salad jump rope. I'm sure it'll be a best.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, people don't feelze Like my friend always

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Speaker 1: says that bad health is like people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, good food is expensive, like healthy food is expensive.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bad health is even more expensive.

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Speaker 2: You're so right, And it's so annoying that you can

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Speaker 2: be so smart even to grief, to.

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Speaker 1: Be because it's true.

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Speaker 2: It's one more kind damn thing to think about and

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Speaker 2: think that. I'm just like this again, Mandy, another one,

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Speaker 2: another fifty pounds. Come on, Hey, we're all on our

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Speaker 2: own journeys, right, So we're all on our own journeys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be

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Speaker 2: right back with more a brown ambition. All right, ba fan,

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Speaker 2: we're back. Can I tell you a little secret though

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Speaker 2: that I'm really excited about. And I decided I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: speak my secrets out loud. But at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the year, one of my one of my goals was

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Speaker 2: to work on a book proposal. Okay, so I could, yes,

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Speaker 2: I could, you know, get my own, get my own

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Speaker 2: Uh what's that on you? What do you call that

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Speaker 2: behind you? That picture? I want my own book cover

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Speaker 2: on the wall behind me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 2: But I know I've had this, I've had this idea,

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Speaker 2: but I wasn't happening right. Like I'm someone I've written

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Speaker 2: my whole life. I've always wanted to write a book,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I know I have it in me

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Speaker 2: and I keep saying that, but yet we're the book

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Speaker 2: at No. Never had it, never got that agent, agents

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Speaker 2: reach out, and never did anything, you know, And I realized, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so what do I need to change? I need some accountability.

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Speaker 2: So I'm working with a book proposal coach me accountable,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to get this book. I'm not ready

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Speaker 2: to like talk about titles and stuff, but you know,

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Speaker 2: i'll tell you. I'll tell you offline, Tiff, now that

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Speaker 2: you're backish, but I'm really excited and and I know, Tiff,

553
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Speaker 2: you just went through this too, but I'll share y'all.

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Speaker 2: So the journey is for me proposal first, and then

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Speaker 2: shop it to agents, and then agent gets it and

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Speaker 2: hopefully agent takes it to a publisher and then all that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not focused on that now. The focus now

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Speaker 2: is just months, several months work of proposal writing. So

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Speaker 2: that's going to be my summer activity, and I'm really

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Speaker 2: it feels so damn good to have taken one step

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Speaker 2: that I know. It's like, Okay, I'm actually doing this

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Speaker 2: damn thing. It feels and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Proud of you for it. Because I got the agent

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Speaker 1: first and then the proposal was due. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie the level of stress it was so because I

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Speaker 1: had never been Yeah, but to your point, I had

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Speaker 1: not thought it through, like what do I want to write?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait so but but I will tell you the

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Speaker 1: best piece of advice and my agent, Heather gave me

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Speaker 1: was because I was like, can I do like.

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Speaker 2: A little five page proposal?

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Speaker 1: She was like, you can, but she said the issue

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Speaker 1: with doing that is that but one, when you do

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Speaker 1: a more flushed out proposal, that means that you and

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Speaker 1: your head are really clear about what you're going to write.

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Speaker 1: And also two, it makes the person who's buying the

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Speaker 1: book clear about what you're going to write, because if

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Speaker 1: you do a shorter one, you know, the publisher might

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Speaker 1: be like, let's turn left, and you're like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: my intention was to turn right, but it's not in

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Speaker 1: the proposal, so how would they have known that? You know?

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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, So I told myself, girl,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what I'm talk about. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: do this ten page proposal seventy pages later. Yeah, between fifty.

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Speaker 2: And one hundred is the estimate. Yes, that's right on

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Speaker 2: the nose.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was like seventy pages late. But

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Speaker 1: I when I tell you, I'm so glad that I

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Speaker 1: wrote the proposal in the way that I did because

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Speaker 1: it forced me to get clear on what did I

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Speaker 1: want to write, and I wrote the like I can

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Speaker 1: have it to Mandy. I don't know if I have,

594
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Speaker 1: but I can obviously share my proposal with you. I

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Speaker 1: wrote my whole first like introduction chapter for you know,

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Speaker 1: and then like you know, like here are the chapters,

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Speaker 1: here's what I'm what I'm going to cover. When I

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Speaker 1: tell you, it was so helpful because it was like

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Speaker 1: the most amazing outline that I just had to fill

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Speaker 1: in as I was doing the book. So yeah, like

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Speaker 1: the proposal process can be. Truthfully, it's crazy. I almost

602
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Speaker 1: found it harder the proposal process and the actually writing

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Speaker 1: of the book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's exactly it's all of that. It's clarity,

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Speaker 2: it's being focused, it's having all that feedback and I know,

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Speaker 2: and that's what's been so daunting, is and I and

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Speaker 2: thank you for that, because a lot of generous people

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Speaker 2: have shared their proposals with me and and in the

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Speaker 2: best way. It's like it's like it forced me to

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Speaker 2: be like, Okay, let me get this right. And even

611
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: like speaking to different coaches and who I wanted to

612
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Speaker 2: work with and ended up picking this wonderful woman. I mean,

613
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Speaker 2: we haven't started yet, so I'll endorse her once it's done.

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00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: But but she's actually worked with authors just like me,

615
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Speaker 2: people who and Tiff as well, like you know, people

616
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Speaker 2: who have you know, built a following and have a message,

617
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: but really want to target it and be specific. And

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Speaker 2: for me, the book is really just a continuation of

619
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Speaker 2: my business, you know, for me, I know it'll open

620
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Speaker 2: doors to opportunities and just yeah, I you know, but

621
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Speaker 2: one step at a time, and I coach this all

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Speaker 2: the time with my clients, is what's the one step

623
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Speaker 2: you did today to get you toward your end goal?

624
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Speaker 2: Just one baby step? And for me, signing that contract

625
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: with her was a big baby step, a big girl step. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you one one one piece of advice

627
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Speaker 1: that really helped me aside from like not the proposal itself,

628
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Speaker 1: but just in general this process. So I would just

629
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Speaker 1: say that, figure out what do you want, Meaning like

630
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Speaker 1: for me, I was like, okay, what do I want

631
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Speaker 1: out of this book? And so I was like, well, one,

632
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Speaker 1: I wanted something I could imagine the woman going to

633
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Speaker 1: Barnes and Nobles and picking it off the shelf and saying, Okay,

634
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Speaker 1: now I know what to do when it comes to

635
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Speaker 1: the foundation of my first personal financial life. Like I

636
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Speaker 1: wanted like a almost like a financial bible. So that

637
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Speaker 1: was one I was like, I wanted it was almost

638
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Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm dating myself like an encyclopedia. That's

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Speaker 1: how I wanted it to feel. So I was like, one,

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Speaker 1: I want to help that woman, the woman who emails

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Speaker 1: me and sees me and whole Foods and marshals and says, Tiffany,

642
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Speaker 1: I need help with It's like, here's the foundation. That

643
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: was one. Two to me. It wasn't really about like

644
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: how big my contract was going to because honestly, I

645
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a point of reference on how big contracts

646
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: could because I was a new time author as far

647
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: as you know, publishing in this way. But I said,

648
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: I know that I want to see can I do it?

649
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to sell a hundred thousand copies in

650
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: the year, although I'm not gonna lie. I didn't realize

651
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: like that's like not realistic, a realistic goal. Yeah, it's not.

652
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: You operate in a different universe than the rest.

653
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't know. But I didn't know what

654
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: was a lot or little you know what I mean.

655
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Like I thought, like, you know, I didn't realize that

656
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: ten thousand is really good, twenty five is great over

657
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: fifty years, Okay, girl, we see you. So one hundred

658
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: thousand is like, all right, girl, are you Michelle Obama?

659
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: You know? So I didn't, but that was like my

660
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: number in my head just because I just I'm used

661
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: to working with like my business numbers. So I was like, Okay,

662
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: this is our goal. And then third, I really wanted

663
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller, not for the flex, although

664
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: it's nice flex, really because I wanted to be taken

665
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: more seriously in other circles. And I knew that having

666
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that stamp was going to allow folks who might be

667
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: like in no shade to influencers because I'm in part

668
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: an influencer on top of financial educator and otherwise. But

669
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: I knew that if I wanted to be taken seriously

670
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: on a broader market, having that stamp of New York

671
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Times bestseller was going to assist me in doing so.

672
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: So I just share that to say, then, and that's

673
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: just for any of y'all setting any kind of goals,

674
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: like the goal before the goal, because you have to

675
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: that's really the spice to the thing you're creating. That

676
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: had I not set those intents ahead of time, I

677
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: baked in those intentions into the writing of the proposal

678
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: and then the book, and then the marketing and then

679
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the so really got clear, like I want that woman

680
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: to have her financial bible, and with that New York

681
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Times bestseller, so it gets me that stamp of approval.

682
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: And there was a certain amount of books I wanted

683
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: to sell, although I just found out Penguin told me,

684
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: like I had a meeting with them last week and

685
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: they were like, the number we have an author portal.

686
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: Almost every publisher has one or big publisher you can

687
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: go in and see your numbers. And I was like, oh, okay,

688
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I see my numbers. Uh. One year later, my book

689
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: has sold drum roll, please, one hundred and fifty seven

690
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: thousand copies in one year. I was like, say what now,

691
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: I said the author, Putty, don't say that. She was like, yeah,

692
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: I know. She's like, I don't know why it's off,

693
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: she said, but they pull numbers like Target calls them

694
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: every week, Barnes and Nobles, Amazon every week. They get

695
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: all the numbers from all the bookstores and whatever. She's like, now,

696
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, one hundred and fifty

697
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: seven thousand cops these in one calendar year, which is insite.

698
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: So I can't wait for your book to come out.

699
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: Book came out, Sorry, girl, I can't.

700
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: Wait to give you all my tips and tracks job like,

701
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: don't do that, oh, Mandy do it? Don't do that, Mandy,

702
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: oh'll do this?

703
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: Well, No, I just told you on last week's show,

704
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: and I'll say it again, and I've said it to

705
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: other people too. The fact that your book did so amazing,

706
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: like you don't even understand. It'll probably take years for

707
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: you to find it, but to figure it out or

708
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: to or even it's not one of those things that

709
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: could maybe ever tangible, but it makes us such a

710
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: big difference still to this day, ten percent or fewer

711
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: books are by people of color, not even women of color,

712
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: people of color, And I feel like if you even

713
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: get into the business category and finance categories and even

714
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: smaller percentage there are so there's so much room for us.

715
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: But unfortunately we're still on this point of we need

716
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: to prove that there's a marketplace and all that bullshit. Right,

717
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: so in such a huge way, you know, and with

718
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: your intentions, I know, you know, being entirely what they

719
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: are about that woman picking your book off the shelf,

720
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: but you creating that book has probably made it easier

721
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: for me to get a book deal, and other people

722
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: have come at you. So again, I will poor, I

723
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: will always give you your flowers, Tiff. You deserve it,

724
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: you do, and I hope, I hope my book can

725
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: do the same. I'm really excited.

726
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Will y'all gonna be sick of us, sick of us

727
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: over here?

728
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Give me this book, my untitled book project. I'll tell

729
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: you more about it as I go. Okay, but yeah.

730
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: All right, ah well that post is in a great

731
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: move for some boosty breaky time.

732
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a quick let's take a quick little

733
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: commercial break to hear some from some of our sponsors,

734
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: and we'll write back with you our boost and break?

735
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: All right, Wait, what's your boost and break song? I forget,

736
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

737
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: It's now it's time to No. No, it was like

738
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: the Mickey Mouse song is like am I c khy?

739
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: Like? Do the kids even know what that is anymore?

740
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: No?

741
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: Do you have a version of that you know that

742
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: we could do with I don't know, bad Bunny DJ Khaled,

743
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: something that the youths are into these days.

744
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: No, but I will. I will think of something. I will.

745
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, Like, what's a cute little

746
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: ditty that we could do it too? For now? We

747
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: could just be like, are you gonna boost? Are you

748
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna break? No, we didn't. This is just new.

749
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: In the background. Find us some theme music.

750
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what here, this is what we're gonna do.

751
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Brown a bitch and listeners, Mandy and I would love

752
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: a really cute booster break Diddy. Okay, So if you

753
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: can sing us a little songy song and send it

754
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: to us, maybe dms via Instagram? Is that a good

755
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: place to send a little songy song?

756
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: Sure?

757
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 1: Sure, right, dm us on Instagram with your little songy

758
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: song about boosting and breaking brown boosts, brown break, Brown boost,

759
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: brown Break? What you're gonna do? No, that's some bad voice.

760
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, see I'm just I'm tap dry. So if

761
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: you have a keep booster breaks song, send it. Maybe

762
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: we'll play it, and we will, we will, you know,

763
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, we'll shout out your ig.

764
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: How about that? That sounds good? And I know I'm

765
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: no help because all I can think of is the

766
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: wheels on the bus which was being which was bopping

767
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: in the car this morning, and the ba Keyway theme song.

768
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: But I got nothing, But let's get into it. What're

769
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: you gonna do tif boost or break? Today?

770
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: I am going to boost because I had therapy right before,

771
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: because I know we chatted prior and you were like,

772
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: before this, you took like an hour or two to

773
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of think about the show, and I took the

774
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: hour to like, you know, just kind of like decompressed

775
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: from therapy. So I cannot tell you how helpful therapy

776
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: has been, not just for obviously this grief process, because

777
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: today was like a really rough day, and certainly, you

778
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: know I was telling you my therapist, I'm like, I

779
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: woke up so anxious and I couldn't. I didn't understand why.

780
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 1: And you know, she helped me to see, like there's

781
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: just a lot of triggers in my house that just

782
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: like I just missing Darrell honestly, and how to see

783
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: grief as a wave, not you know, you hear like

784
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: the five stages of grief. She's like, you know, they've

785
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: since debunked that, therapist, because that's just not how grief

786
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: like reveals itself. It's more like a wave. There's ebbs

787
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: and flows, and that's gonna be natural. Some days the

788
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: wave is gonna be really big and all I can

789
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: do is anchor myself to the beach. And some days,

790
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: you know, the waves will barely brust my feet and

791
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: that will just be and that's normal. So that helped

792
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: a lot. But also like we're not just working through, Yes,

793
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: the grief, that is definitely the main priority, but also

794
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: I've been working through, you know, like unearthing why sometimes

795
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: I have a hard time having the hard conversations and

796
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm like on the cusp of finally being able to

797
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: shake some of that so I can be free of that.

798
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: If there is one heavy thing that hangs around my

799
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: neck outside of the grief, it has been hanging around

800
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: my neck since I was in elementary school? Is why

801
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: am I afraid to say the hard things? And I

802
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: know why I'm afraid to say the hard things. And

803
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I've been practicing saying the hard things and I'm getting

804
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: so much better at it. And so I just don't

805
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: know what I would do without therapy, because it just

806
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: would have been this thing that I got used to

807
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: dragging along with me. And so I just encourage, like,

808
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, asking for help whatever that might look like.

809
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: It might look like coaching, it might look like therapy.

810
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: But this black girl over here is here only because

811
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: of you know, my ability to have help through this journey,

812
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: like you know, professionally, personally and otherwise. And so just

813
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: a black girl brown boost for therapy and black therapists.

814
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Doctor Green is amazing. You know, there's

815
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: stuff that we could talk about, sister girl talk. You

816
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: know that I don't have to explain what I mean.

817
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: And She's like, no, I got exactly, I'm picking up

818
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: what you putting down, Tiffany.

819
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm such a huge fan

820
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: of therapy too, and I also feel like getting it

821
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: before you absolutely need it should be normalized too, because

822
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: for me, it's like the mental health emergency Fund, like

823
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: I may not need it, but I'm still going to

824
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: be squirreling away, you know, some money. So that and

825
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: by money, I mean having my biweekly appointments, even if

826
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's something that I need, because

827
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean, even you, after what you went through, I'm

828
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: so glad. I know you had that moment where you

829
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: weren't sure she could even really see you because of

830
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: the state laws and stuff. But thankfully she could. But

831
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: how amazing. And then you don't have to tell someone

832
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: all about you and start from scratch. And that I

833
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: have someone because with my life, it's always something. Eventually,

834
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: there will always be something. So I love that. I

835
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: love it. So what can I boost today? I actually, ooh,

836
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: this is what I wanted to boost. So I read

837
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: this article about these tenants in the Bronx and I

838
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: thought this the whole story isn't incredible, and we'll put

839
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: the article in the show links. But the headline is

840
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: a landlord underestimated his tenants. Now they could own the building. Okay,

841
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: So a new landlord came into the Bronx, bought a

842
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: building and threatened to raise rents and kick out the tenants.

843
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: But the tenants banded together, and because they took this

844
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: landlord to court, they have now each been able to

845
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: purchase their apartments for guess what. This is a Manhattan

846
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: apartment in the Bronx two five hundred dollars each. Wow,

847
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: this is a dozen tenants from most small Bronx apartment building.

848
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: So I love this story. We'll share the We'll share

849
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: the link in the show notes. But I love it

850
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: David versus Goliath, especially at a time in New York

851
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: where I've got friends who are finally moving back to

852
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: New York post pandemic. Well it's not post pandemic, but

853
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, you could get apartments in New York in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one for really for a lot

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Speaker 2: lower rent because everyone was going the other direction. But

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Speaker 2: now the rents are going back up, like we're talking

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Speaker 2: double digit rent increases, some even more than that. So

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Speaker 2: I love this story. I thought it was just a cute,

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Speaker 2: little not even cute and exciting David versus Goliath where

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Speaker 2: the David's actually won. Let's talk about the picture is

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Speaker 2: wearing my target dress. Yeah, I also have I'm like you.

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Speaker 1: I love a target dress. I mean, is there anything

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Speaker 1: better than the target dress? It just really isn't.

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Speaker 2: This particular dress traumatized me because it it buttons all

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Speaker 2: the way down the front and I had one. This

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Speaker 2: was can I go there? I'm gonna go there. I

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Speaker 2: was on the way to work in the before times.

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Speaker 2: I had this dress on plus like a bag that

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Speaker 2: went across my you know, strapped across the front or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Slowly but surely, each of those buttons was popping open

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Speaker 2: on the sixth train and it was it was it

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Speaker 2: was a.

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Speaker 1: Given a show girl.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, was I giving it. I've never been

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Speaker 2: so mortified in my life when this woman tapped me

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Speaker 2: and she was like ma'am and she looked down and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh oh, oh.

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Speaker 1: Mandy was holding off to the pole and working a

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Speaker 1: pole at the same time.

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Speaker 2: And then in the subway, listen, if you've never been

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Speaker 2: a working woman who had to go to CBS with

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Speaker 2: safety pins and pin herself into a dress on a

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Speaker 2: work call, you know, then have you really lived? Have

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Speaker 2: you ever really found success? All Right? That's my break

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Speaker 2: and my my yes, my boost for the Bronx tenants.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Oh this was nice, did you guys? Miss us My

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Speaker 1: love language is words of information. I need to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Tell us, yes, tell us, shout us out on ig

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Speaker 2: We're at Brown Ambition Podcast. Thank y'all again, and quick

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Speaker 2: acknowledgment to our two time Webby Award winning show speaking

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Speaker 2: about you know, getting our flowers. Y'all helped us get

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Speaker 2: one of those webbys, so thank you for that. It

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Speaker 2: feels good. We're getting back Ish in a group. Yes, Ish,

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Speaker 2: we're also matching in more ways than one today.

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Speaker 1: I know I've both got a hair up in our show.

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Speaker 2: I know too much, little dainty necklaces. Yes, it's good

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 1: You back to Oh, it's good to be Backish.

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Speaker 2: Well until next week, y'all. This is a Brown Ambition

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Speaker 2: We're out bye, hey ba fam. We could not do

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Speaker 2: Crosby and produced by Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky is our

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Speaker 2: in house techduru, and I am Bandy Woodard Santos your

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Speaker 2: co host, and I will see y'all next week.