Speaker 1: There were some who believed he had star potential, some
Speaker 1: who believed he would be an average player, of ths
Speaker 1: who believed he would.
Speaker 2: Be a bust. I think everything went exactly the way
Speaker 2: that it was supposed to.
Speaker 3: Good evening.
Speaker 1: So when you see somebody like a Johnny Football be
Speaker 1: at the top, you're like, how does this guy not
Speaker 1: have a perspective on what he's doing?
Speaker 2: You know, the rise was really quick and rapid and fast,
Speaker 2: and everybody wanted a piece of it, and the energy
Speaker 2: that came with it never once in my mind clicked it.
Speaker 2: You know, this is what this guy is living and
Speaker 2: dreaming for to come in and just get in the building,
Speaker 2: to make any amount of money, and you have this
Speaker 2: opportunity that you're squandered.
Speaker 3: So was it a vicious circle of being in something
Speaker 3: realizing okay, this is.
Speaker 1: It would have been based on what everybody else perceives
Speaker 1: you as.
Speaker 2: So if the NCAA wants to take my fucking nine
Speaker 2: and four season away and my Chick fil A bull
Speaker 2: agains due, fuck him below.
Speaker 4: Man, Chuck budget guys got over there, dude.
Speaker 3: We don't like to get free shoutouts out here, but
Speaker 3: you slap the boys on it. It's no longer a
Speaker 3: free shout out. It's officially a collabus. I think we're
Speaker 3: gonna let some fa you guys, are you guys crush
Speaker 3: the advertisement for that too? Like every every time I
Speaker 3: see one of y'all, it's clicking. You got some girl
Speaker 3: with some boltons fucking snapping a can off going after that,
Speaker 3: it's uh.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, it's uh, I would say, I
Speaker 4: credited to TikTok. A lot of our growth, like things
Speaker 4: all oomed off on TikTok, just some like kids. There's
Speaker 4: like sub cultures on TikTok where there's like this drinking
Speaker 4: culture that I wasn't aware of. But we started, like
Speaker 4: we went from doing the flash sales on them, where
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 2: Were literally in my like fucking house in La.
Speaker 4: I had assembly line of like five of my buddies
Speaker 4: putting these things together like these just assembling them, roughing it.
Speaker 2: Figuring it out and start.
Speaker 4: And then we would do like we'd just crank out
Speaker 4: like two thousand.
Speaker 2: It would take us like three weeks and then they'd
Speaker 2: sell out.
Speaker 4: But we were I was marketing the whole time in
Speaker 4: a discrete way, but I was just like kept doing
Speaker 4: them on my stories.
Speaker 2: They'd been what the fuck is that thing?
Speaker 4: You know, And by the time we put them on sale,
Speaker 4: they would just they would fly. So then the first
Speaker 4: time when we started mass producing, like probably about three
Speaker 4: four weeks into it, for whatever reason, it went from like,
Speaker 4: you know, five three four thousand dollars a day in
Speaker 4: sales to like just quadrupled.
Speaker 2: And we had no idea why. It turns out like some.
Speaker 4: Big you know, they're like twenty one year old kids,
Speaker 4: like like kind of Friday kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like one of them put some music behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a.
Speaker 2: Lot of his music too. They's just like just smashing beer.
Speaker 3: It's two for his music and the choke.
Speaker 4: It just became a thit. It just became a thing
Speaker 4: on TikTok. And then we just when did you start
Speaker 4: making them? We've been doing We've been producing them for
Speaker 4: about a year, working on them. Like I acquired I
Speaker 4: acquired this. So this kid hit me up. He was
Speaker 4: a college kid making him in his dorm. Just had
Speaker 4: like a few of them, you know what. It wasn't
Speaker 4: even really selling them yet. Yeah, and uh and hit
Speaker 4: me and hit me and.
Speaker 3: Got to work through diversity around here. Apologize.
Speaker 2: Work through it. We're not as company either, man, work
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man like hit me up. Was like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: I got this thing I'm been trying to get in
Speaker 4: front of you. I happened to see the DM. I said, yeah,
Speaker 4: send them out. You know, sat in my kitchen in
Speaker 4: LA for like in a box for like four weeks,
Speaker 4: and then we're about to go on tour, having a
Speaker 4: late night festivity over there, and people busted him out.
Speaker 4: And I started seeing everyone do and people are like, oh,
Speaker 4: like even like you know LA people, which isn't really
Speaker 4: like wouldn't like said it wasn't really like a drinking
Speaker 4: culture out there like you like Nashville and even.
Speaker 3: Clothes, you know, so that's different.
Speaker 1: Different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even just seeing them, you know, I come
Speaker 4: from kind of like the drinking culture world, you know,
Speaker 4: so just seeing that reaction, I was like, man, this
Speaker 4: might be something.
Speaker 2: So I ended up flying the kid out.
Speaker 4: We were going on tour, the kid out, we met,
Speaker 4: and then I just slowly like acquired the whole company
Speaker 4: from him. You know, he's he's in on it partially,
Speaker 4: but yeah, was.
Speaker 3: He get like royalties is at the equity in the company.
Speaker 2: I can't. He has some points on the company.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I got him a million dollars for it,
Speaker 4: which she you know, he hadn't made any.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in college. A million dollars like you make
Speaker 3: it sound like it's he gave him ten dollars in
Speaker 3: a pack of chewing gum, and million dollars is a
Speaker 3: lot of money. Yeah, that's a good deal.
Speaker 4: It was, and you know it's it's invested and he
Speaker 4: has he has points on the company and ship, so
Speaker 4: it's a great deal for both of us.
Speaker 2: But man, it was. It was pretty so pretty lucky,
Speaker 2: like talk about just like open up your phone.
Speaker 1: There's no doub because you're like, oh man, this d
Speaker 1: he's got.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he has like that kind of like he's
Speaker 2: like a special kid.
Speaker 4: He has like that little like inventor's trade, you know,
Speaker 4: like some people have those like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see something puts it together.
Speaker 2: He's just like put this little idea.
Speaker 3: You close with the kid?
Speaker 2: Or is the kid like he's like that. He actually
Speaker 2: was out in La like we became buddies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out in La.
Speaker 2: I think he's going back to Illinois's from Illinois?
Speaker 3: Real, where do you go to school?
Speaker 4: Couldn't tell you small, small school in Illinois, but you know,
Speaker 4: just man got lucky.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Been nice.
Speaker 4: We got to sell some. I got some, I got some.
Speaker 4: I got some barstool ones doing Brianna. Do you know
Speaker 4: Brianna chicken fries?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the chicken the one that she's kind of new there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing with her, we're doing one with Dana
Speaker 2: like some yeah.
Speaker 3: Smart a smart yeah, big beer guy. You do do
Speaker 3: you follow Dana? Do you believe that he's back? That's
Speaker 3: a been a big thing for whatever reason? Do you
Speaker 3: think is here? He's here, He's he's relevant. I love that.
Speaker 3: That's good. I like to see that kind of sport.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't know what becomes for
Speaker 2: he's a good time expect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems like a beauty.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's I don't know back for
Speaker 4: he's somewhere though, But I love like, honestly, it's such
Speaker 4: a sweet like sweet.
Speaker 2: Nice guy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what an interesting way to describe another man. Sweetheart.
Speaker 3: I love that if someone called me and someone's like, yeah, Taylor,
Speaker 3: he's a sweetheart. That's kind of that's sweet of them
Speaker 3: to say, yeah, it's super nice to say, dude.
Speaker 2: Probably profession you're not going to get that very often.
Speaker 3: No, And also my personality off the field everything else,
Speaker 3: it really make me call me sweet or anything like that.
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Speaker 3: A lot of you guys know Johnny Manziel were actually
Speaker 3: in the same draft class twenty fourteen. Uh kind of
Speaker 3: in a weird way in our college, not like kind
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Speaker 3: Even though we never went anywhere. We sat here the
Speaker 3: whole time and we made them sit wasted their time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, twenty fourteen Draft class, dude, super cool college.
Speaker 3: We were obviously one of the most dynamic football players
Speaker 3: to ever play being in college at the same time
Speaker 3: as you and me and Will watching you. I can't
Speaker 3: imagine what that was like in college. To start, there's
Speaker 3: start at college for you. Take me in the beginning
Speaker 3: you're freshmen, don't know which ways up, and then hit
Speaker 3: me obviously the next year whin the Heisman.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, it was. It was quick man, crazy story.
Speaker 2: I graduated early, so I got on campus, you know,
Speaker 2: and at the beginning of January. Anybody else does when
Speaker 2: they first get there, especially being the young guy in
Speaker 2: the locker room fucking lost. Yeah, no idea, which way
Speaker 2: is up? How to get here? Just literally a fucking
Speaker 2: punk ass kid trying to get into a bar and
Speaker 2: maybe drink a beer away from your parents for the
Speaker 2: first time. But yeah, graduate early, go to a and
Speaker 2: m I red shirted my first year. We were in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve as well, which was a big, uh,
Speaker 2: big difference over the years. Get into red shirt and
Speaker 2: travel with the team the first year and go to
Speaker 2: places like names Iowa and all and Lubbeck and all
Speaker 2: these places had to go the next year the rass
Speaker 2: it came to us. But then the next year we're
Speaker 2: playing in the SEC and obviously getting a chance to
Speaker 2: actually go out and rip it up and play a
Speaker 2: little bit. It's just completely different getting to see the
Speaker 2: the two conferences that way. But you know, funny story,
Speaker 2: I haven't told a lot of people before. You know,
Speaker 2: so I go into spring football that year. This is
Speaker 2: your year in twelve, Yeah, this is my red shirt
Speaker 2: freshman year, first chance to get a chance to you know,
Speaker 2: get any reps, get some get some playing time. Anything
Speaker 2: in the spring had as bout of abysmal the fucking
Speaker 2: spring as you could have. Throwing picks all day in practice,
Speaker 2: can't run around, can't do my thing, just feel cooped
Speaker 2: up and uh. In the spring, fourth on the depth chart,
Speaker 2: not even close to having a chance to compete for
Speaker 2: the starting job, Just fucking struggling. Somewhere between that time
Speaker 2: between into spring ball and fall camp, you know, I
Speaker 2: go out, have a couple too many red white and
Speaker 2: blue Budweisers on the fourth of July weekend and I
Speaker 2: got caught with three fake id's and my wallet. It's
Speaker 2: this thing, go online, type in all your info and
Speaker 2: then this little toy car would show up. We're come
Speaker 2: in like a toy from China, and then you'd open
Speaker 2: it up and underneath you take out the batteries of
Speaker 2: the car and there's your fake ID and everything. Oh perfect,
Speaker 2: really really good. Had to get Louisiana because Texas ones
Speaker 2: are really.
Speaker 3: Hard to say, so I hate cutting you off, but
Speaker 3: why three? It was a package deal trading carding.
Speaker 2: The cool thing was when you go to a like
Speaker 2: a gas station or something, you hand him ID and
Speaker 2: the guy knows it's not you or knows it's fake,
Speaker 2: you can just walk out without having to try and
Speaker 2: get it back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, snap it from him and get out of there.
Speaker 2: Hit the hit the right, straight out the door, and
Speaker 2: just just take off and just beat it. So, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, that little incident happens. And I'm fourth on
Speaker 2: the depth chart. Recently walking out of Brian College station
Speaker 2: jail and uh, you know, looking pretty bleak. And this
Speaker 2: is July. Fast forward eleven days in THEO you know,
Speaker 2: college football training camp and play great, win the job
Speaker 2: in eleven days. We played Foard to the first game
Speaker 2: and then you know, a Heisman season kind of goes
Speaker 2: from there.
Speaker 1: That was the year you won the Heisman.
Speaker 3: So you won the job in eleven days.
Speaker 2: How do you?
Speaker 3: How do you go up the depth chart? One position?
Speaker 2: I credited the Cliff Kingsbury man. That's a guy who
Speaker 2: really changed my life for the better. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was like, listen, we're gonna get your feet wet in
Speaker 2: the spring. You're gonna learn the system. You're going to
Speaker 2: do this. But you know, he whether we had a
Speaker 2: depth chart or not, he wasn't grating me off any
Speaker 2: of that. He was greating everybody what we had in
Speaker 2: the fall and what you look like coming back after
Speaker 2: summer workouts. So you know he's I hang out with
Speaker 2: him a lot. Now he's obviously in Arizona with the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm a Scottsdale guy, so I see
Speaker 2: him a lot. And he's always told me that, uh,
Speaker 2: he wanted me to be his guy. He saw a
Speaker 2: lot in me, watched me. He's from New Bronfiles in
Speaker 2: Texas and I played right outside of there, so just
Speaker 2: a guy that believed in me, gave me a chance,
Speaker 2: played really good in springball, and life changed in three
Speaker 2: months from there.
Speaker 4: Part of that story you're missing out on that I
Speaker 4: think is you got in trouble and then you ended
Speaker 4: up having to run like a well that ye, that
Speaker 4: is a that is.
Speaker 2: A big story. There's two. So when I got in
Speaker 2: trouble at Texas A and M is a big school
Speaker 2: of like honor code and ethics and things like that,
Speaker 2: to where if you get in trouble even outside of
Speaker 2: campus or just in the town and Brian College station,
Speaker 2: they pretty much send your case to a review board
Speaker 2: of the school. So when the job in eleven days
Speaker 2: and then the day after I get named the starter,
Speaker 2: I go to this meeting in front of this review board.
Speaker 2: From my behavior or whatever, I go through the meeting
Speaker 2: and tell tell them what happened, obviously apologize, and they
Speaker 2: suspended me from college athletics for a year and put
Speaker 2: me on academic suspension. So when the job one day
Speaker 2: next day, go to this meeting thing, I'm just going
Speaker 2: to you know, slap on the wrist on the gonna
Speaker 2: happen to getting completely banned and not even be able
Speaker 2: to play intermural athletics, which would if I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: be able to play start in the SEC, I may
Speaker 2: as well go to the rack and fucking yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: So that happens. I had to meet with coach someone.
Speaker 2: He's pretty much like every day we have a practice,
Speaker 2: even if it's in the morning or in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: you run ten gassers before the practice, and you run
Speaker 2: fucking ten after. Yeah, and you practice. So they're fucking
Speaker 2: wearing me out. But I ended up leading the SEC
Speaker 2: and rushing that year, rushing Todd Gurley somehow, and I
Speaker 2: think a lot of it was beneficial from that punishment.
Speaker 2: I think I was in the best shape on the
Speaker 2: team because I'm out there running one hundred twenty half
Speaker 2: gass a week half gassers.
Speaker 3: So this happened. This happened your retrofreshman year, your name
Speaker 3: is starter, and then he has suspended for a year. Well,
Speaker 3: how do they send that?
Speaker 2: Collect a ton of letters from people within the like
Speaker 2: our academic office or the place, our study hall, our teacher, coaches,
Speaker 2: and had to collect probably twenty letters family members back
Speaker 2: home from high school.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 2: They all wrote letters for me and probably got about
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty letters and sent them into the review board.
Speaker 2: And I went back up for another review and they
Speaker 2: were sending it to like a lower level of academic
Speaker 2: probation so I could play sports.
Speaker 3: Did you do that or did the school like a good.
Speaker 2: Questions something I never really wanted to find out. I
Speaker 2: was really nervous. Man, I'm just a kid trying to
Speaker 2: ever touch the field in the sec which less you know,
Speaker 2: we're playing Florida, the first game at home in front
Speaker 2: of a hundred thousand people, new conference for us. This
Speaker 2: is all I could have ever dreamed for. And I
Speaker 2: get named the starter. In the next day they told
Speaker 2: me to fucking you're out pretty much.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like like you're obviously running twenty gases
Speaker 1: a day to continue to be the starter, like when
Speaker 1: you got in trouble and you're having to go through
Speaker 1: all this stuff, like it seemed like you were pretty remorseful,
Speaker 1: like you wanted to like, Yo, this isn't this isn't
Speaker 1: who I want to be, This isn't what I want
Speaker 1: to do going into unless you were just like good,
Speaker 1: like fucking grunting those gassers out every day, still thinking
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm still gonna be fucking you know.
Speaker 2: I think it made I think it made me better.
Speaker 2: I think it made me better for sure. That period
Speaker 2: allowed me to put myself in a position to have
Speaker 2: success that I did that year in college. I think
Speaker 2: I've always worked better with somebody being jumping down my
Speaker 2: throat and being on my ass because I tend to
Speaker 2: get lazy and not do shit that I don't want
Speaker 2: to do a punk ass, but uh, you know, I
Speaker 2: think it. I think it kept me in line and
Speaker 2: got me to a point where I really went and
Speaker 2: focused on trying to be really good at football and
Speaker 2: play well and live my dream type of thing. And
Speaker 2: that's what I got to do that year, and I
Speaker 2: think it was a great step in zone at all.
Speaker 2: I look back now and say that there were no
Speaker 2: accidents in my life, even with what happened in Cleveland
Speaker 2: or this, and that I think everything went exactly the
Speaker 2: way that it was supposed to. I think there's other
Speaker 2: things out there that I'm meant for, and I think
Speaker 2: fate has worked its way in a way that things
Speaker 2: have gone exactly the way that they should have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think things went exactly the way I was
Speaker 3: supposed to go.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. It's the only reast when I say that
Speaker 3: is because like, things go the way they're supposed to
Speaker 3: go when they're when the things that are uncontrollabile happen,
Speaker 3: of course, but the things that you and we'll get
Speaker 3: with this is a little further down the road now,
Speaker 3: when you got to the NFL, like everything, all the
Speaker 3: actions were controllable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Probably so so when you say, like, it's it's all
Speaker 3: what did you say? It happens for a reason or
Speaker 3: or it's supposed to.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to happen way it's supposed to.
Speaker 3: So if you went back, you wouldn't do anything different.
Speaker 3: You do it the same way. You wouldn't do nothing different.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I. I uh. For four years, five years
Speaker 2: of my life, I went through the roller coaster of man,
Speaker 2: I guess really depression. After I got cut in LA
Speaker 2: or I got cut from Cleveland and moved to LA
Speaker 2: I went through waking up every day wanting to have
Speaker 2: a time machine to go back to our draft in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and maybe tell this team to get fucked,
Speaker 2: or go to another team, or go in the second round,
Speaker 2: or work through every single scenario in my head, and
Speaker 2: I think I've got to the point now where maybe
Speaker 2: I just really didn't never love football to the point
Speaker 2: of what it takes to be successful in the.
Speaker 3: DA So when you went from the Browns, whould you
Speaker 3: go from there? You went to the CFL XFL.
Speaker 2: Or I took a year off and then I went
Speaker 2: to the CFL and then went and played in the
Speaker 2: AAF in the same year.
Speaker 3: And when how long did it take you to realize
Speaker 3: that maybe I didn't love football the way if I
Speaker 3: love football.
Speaker 2: And I walked back into the locker room in Canada
Speaker 2: for the first time, I was really excited. You go
Speaker 2: in the press conference, the first couple of days on
Speaker 2: the field, but when the grind really started and the
Speaker 2: normal workload and yeah, I mean it's a thirty percent
Speaker 2: workload in the CFL compared to what we do in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like OTAs every day, right, It's.
Speaker 2: Pretty much like you're in the building at nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: you're done at one o'clock. You get free time to
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. So, I mean, you spend a
Speaker 2: couple extra hours in there, you're done in at nine,
Speaker 2: you're done at three. Compared to what we do on
Speaker 2: a Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever day in the league
Speaker 2: where it's early season six thirty in the morning until
Speaker 2: eight o'clock at night or something like that. So when
Speaker 2: I moved and went back into the locker room in
Speaker 2: Canada and started getting back into it again, felt the
Speaker 2: exact same way. Every single feeling that I had when
Speaker 2: I was in Cleveland came right back to me, and
Speaker 2: I'm I kind of love this whatsoever?
Speaker 3: You don't want to do this, but you went, You went,
Speaker 3: uh Canadian League, you went to that spring league, and.
Speaker 2: Then I went to that AFF and the AAF in Memphis.
Speaker 3: So was it a vicious circle of being in something
Speaker 3: realizing Okay, this isn't for me, leaving it, being like, okay,
Speaker 3: this isn't been my identity for X amount of years,
Speaker 3: my father, the people I love, thinking this is what
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing. So you get back into it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then it was a vicious circle over and over again.
Speaker 2: A lot of it was now I sit back and
Speaker 2: reflect and call it what it is. But for like
Speaker 2: a long point in time, I didn't accept it for
Speaker 2: what it was. I was, you know, listening to outside
Speaker 2: people or go back and watch an old highlight tape
Speaker 2: and be like fuck man and go in the backyard
Speaker 2: right the same ship and throw the ball around the
Speaker 2: same way. So it just u It took a lot
Speaker 2: of time and a lot of just I've got to
Speaker 2: a point now in my life where I'm able to
Speaker 2: really reflect and sit back on things, and my mood
Speaker 2: has changed, my lifestyle. I was a little bit kind
Speaker 2: of the same with what I do and how I
Speaker 2: live my life, but just the way I think and
Speaker 2: the way that I interact with people and the way
Speaker 2: where my life is now, I'm completely different than I was,
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of it has come because
Speaker 2: of acceptance.
Speaker 3: You seem much more calm. I didn't know you like that,
Speaker 3: but in twenty twelve at the Walter Payton thing, being
Speaker 3: around you and I've admiring you from afar, like that's
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel. You know what I'm saying. You and I
Speaker 3: are both all Americans. But I'm looking at this guy going, fuck,
Speaker 3: that's the you know, that's whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm in the class.
Speaker 3: I'm in the class with this fucking dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you go to the bar.
Speaker 3: And you're fucking you're holding court, dude, and like all
Speaker 3: everyone's around you and I'm looking at you like I
Speaker 3: want to do that. I want to be a part
Speaker 3: of that shit. And so but your energy was so
Speaker 3: high and you seem like you're so onto the next thing.
Speaker 3: Looking back on it, obviously at the time, I'm like this,
Speaker 3: I want to do that shit too, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was getting just as much trouble on
Speaker 3: a way smaller scale, and.
Speaker 4: What bottom I like, I've been I've been buddies with
Speaker 4: him for through the or less, probably twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even probably even before that.
Speaker 4: I've known him a long time, and that was kind
Speaker 4: of the idea. You know, we talked about this for
Speaker 4: a while. I just wanted people to see the the
Speaker 4: side of him that you know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 4: of connotations obviously that have traveled with the story, and
Speaker 4: it's obviously a notorious story, like just you know what
Speaker 4: he's gone through and what it looked like from Afar,
Speaker 4: but knowing him then and being with him through it,
Speaker 4: you know, and just in La we were neighbors for
Speaker 4: a while, I would see it. There'd be times were like, man, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't want to like we'd be we'd
Speaker 4: be buddies, but you know, I want to stay.
Speaker 2: I want to let him work through what he needed
Speaker 2: to work through.
Speaker 4: And then it got to a point I'm like I
Speaker 4: could feel that there was a level of peace where
Speaker 4: like he had clarity. He went and did Canada like
Speaker 4: you know, I remember we were doing a comeback season thing.
Speaker 4: I did some branding stuff for him then too, and
Speaker 4: he didn't have like clarity on he didn't have closure or.
Speaker 2: Clarity on it.
Speaker 4: I feel like those were necessary steps for him just
Speaker 4: as a friend, like go look, go get that last
Speaker 4: nut up, like see if see if you can do
Speaker 4: it again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, does it still get your fucking dick
Speaker 2: card or not?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I remember talking to him, He's like, man, it
Speaker 4: just doesn't you know? And then what ball don't lie?
Speaker 4: Would I think that? What that real undertone of that
Speaker 4: is just like when you ask him that question, like
Speaker 4: would you do it different? You know, the realization We've
Speaker 4: had a lot of these late night conversations and talks
Speaker 4: about these types of things, and that was kind of
Speaker 4: the main realization.
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, if it's not in your heart and
Speaker 2: your mind, and.
Speaker 4: Your soul like your your God gifts, you know, he's
Speaker 4: God gifted talented at football, right, But at some point,
Speaker 4: if it doesn't get your rocks off, and it's not
Speaker 4: what you want to do, it's to be it's supposed
Speaker 4: to do, yea life, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. That's what I wanted him to
Speaker 2: share about.
Speaker 4: You know, just from that perspective, it's just like, man,
Speaker 4: at some point, what is it really about?
Speaker 2: You're living your life.
Speaker 4: So if you don't get up and man like, go,
Speaker 4: I gotta you know, obviously it takes a lot of
Speaker 4: mental fortitude. You talk about fortitude all the time, but
Speaker 4: to be an amazing quarterback in the NFL, I only
Speaker 4: know what he tells me. But just the level of preparation, yeah,
Speaker 4: you guys, the level of dedication it takes.
Speaker 2: And if it's not in your heart to do that,
Speaker 2: like for anything in any walk of life, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's how I feel like it's not in your heart
Speaker 4: of hearts to go pursue that with all of your
Speaker 4: passion or as much passion as it takes.
Speaker 2: And it's not your path, you know, it's not. It's
Speaker 2: not the path that.
Speaker 4: You're supposed to walk forever, you know, And that's how
Speaker 4: I felt, and I think that's what that's really what,
Speaker 4: Like I wanted to share in the Ball Don't Lie scenarios,
Speaker 4: just like I want him to share that side of it,
Speaker 4: just like dude, that was.
Speaker 3: A bait thing that took off, Ball Don't Line. That
Speaker 3: was the reason why you guys want to start something.
Speaker 2: I mean, we we didn't have a bunch of talks
Speaker 2: like this, just about life and being two guys around
Speaker 2: the same age trying to just figure it out. Like
Speaker 2: a lot of Mike's music has been one step after another,
Speaker 2: learning as you go, and I felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: I learned more. You know. The rise was really quick
Speaker 2: and rapid and fast, and everybody wanted a piece of it,
Speaker 2: and the energy that came with it was just through
Speaker 2: the roof. You know. It was crazy to think back
Speaker 2: and say, maybe eight or nine years ago, there was
Speaker 2: only a couple athletes maybe on the face of the
Speaker 2: at least maybe in the United States who had who
Speaker 2: maybe I was as famous ass like maybe me Lebron,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, like a couple other nights. It was really
Speaker 2: up there, and uh, you know, just looking back on
Speaker 2: it now, It's crazy to say, and not a lot
Speaker 2: of people have under understood this when I've said it,
Speaker 2: But like I've been longing and trying to get back
Speaker 2: to a sense of normalcy. Life went from really normal
Speaker 2: a kid from fucking Curville, Texas that nobody knew, to
Speaker 2: a heisman a year later to the whole rise, going
Speaker 2: to the NFL and dealing with that. My whole mission
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years has been trying to
Speaker 2: get back to a sense of normalcy and just feeling
Speaker 2: like one of the boys again. That's why I wanted
Speaker 2: to come on the bus talking like I just want
Speaker 2: to be one of the fucking bros. Walk in the streets.
Speaker 2: Guys asked me while we're here in Nashville. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you doing out here? Man? I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: it's Amorial Day weekend. Trying to come out have some
Speaker 2: plub with my boys the same way you are. Yeah,
Speaker 2: trying to just have a good time. That's it's nothing
Speaker 2: else to it. Just the guy trying to have a
Speaker 2: beer at Forga Georgia Lanbar. I need some case.
Speaker 1: We had a lot yeah too, like and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, would you do anything different, like living in
Speaker 1: regret and all that kind of stuff. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like as a human being, you're gonna sit there like
Speaker 1: I wish I had my experience now that I did
Speaker 1: back then, and I just don't, because if you're if
Speaker 1: you're sitting there living in regret all the time and
Speaker 1: you just like live in the past, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you're just like you just have illusions
Speaker 1: about like what life should have been based on what
Speaker 1: everybody else perceives you as you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really what drove a lot of my mental
Speaker 2: health struggles and a lot of things. It took me years. Man,
Speaker 2: I went through a point where my schedule flipped around
Speaker 2: and I couldn't sleep throughout the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: and I would sleep during the middle of the day.
Speaker 2: And this would go on for weeks at a time,
Speaker 2: and I would just beat myself up every day watching
Speaker 2: guys who I went up against in college or friends with,
Speaker 2: and can't help but almost get to a point of
Speaker 2: like envy or jealousy at times watching guys go out
Speaker 2: and live the dream of what you thought you were
Speaker 2: supposed to do. But I can honestly sit back and
Speaker 2: say today that I'm happier with less. I'm happier without
Speaker 2: all the fame, and I'm happier on the path that
Speaker 2: my life is going. And I don't know where the
Speaker 2: fuck it's going. I'm cool with it. I'm walking with
Speaker 2: everything that comes my way and just kind of piece
Speaker 2: by piece, day by day, just figuring it out. Something
Speaker 2: will come.
Speaker 3: Do you know as far as like a career, do
Speaker 3: you know where you want to go from here?
Speaker 2: You know, Luckily, you know, in our draft class in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, if you're a first round pick, you got
Speaker 2: to make a decent, pretty amount of change and a
Speaker 2: big Nike deal too, right, I had a nice little
Speaker 2: Nike deal, got some great great sponsorships, and then you know,
Speaker 2: been free freelance. In the last couple of years. I
Speaker 2: did a parstol with podcast or a podcast with Barstool
Speaker 2: for a year on college football. I've been just doing
Speaker 2: some stuff here and there, and you know, just kind
Speaker 2: of trying to figure it out. But you know, I'm
Speaker 2: working on this golf thing. You know, I'm really addicted
Speaker 2: to the golf life. Right now. I'm about a zero handicap.
Speaker 2: I'm getting better, knocked it down, probably ten strokes in
Speaker 2: the last year, so uh, I'm addicted to it. Man,
Speaker 2: It's something. It's the best rush that I've got in
Speaker 2: sports since playing football. I feel it makes me feel
Speaker 2: a little bit of the same way we're out all
Speaker 2: night partying or whatever. I have a am T time.
Speaker 2: I don't miss very many, probably zero of those ad
Speaker 2: AMT times, no matter how I banged up and hurt
Speaker 2: I am it's just looking back at it. We've been
Speaker 2: talking about this. It's like it's something gets me out
Speaker 2: of bed in the morning, and for a long time
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of anything that would get me
Speaker 2: out of bed in the morning.
Speaker 3: Depression.
Speaker 2: I'll do that to you, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Depression is a real thing for sure, William. What a
Speaker 3: perfect stopping point.
Speaker 1: Oh bro, this is this is light. I love this
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Speaker 4: Bro.
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Speaker 3: In the middle of something and we're going back and forth.
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Speaker 1: I see him, he's up in the he's up in
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Speaker 3: It was a hot day and I'm thinking, like that
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Speaker 3: Nervous? Did I get nervous?
Speaker 2: Easy?
Speaker 3: He was out there, Dude, Dave does like the chirp. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he's about that.
Speaker 2: Before we got on. I've known Dad forever. He's, uh,
Speaker 2: do you know the cave? You ever hear his rap?
Speaker 2: His rap song?
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Speaker 4: guys got into him. Him and KFC did like a
Speaker 4: rap fist back and forth and I produced it out
Speaker 4: for him and like, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I've known Dave forever and it's we talked about it.
Speaker 4: I think on a few of one of our episodes,
Speaker 4: our past episodes.
Speaker 2: Just like as much as.
Speaker 4: The Barstool growth and their expansion as a company has
Speaker 4: been so impressive.
Speaker 2: I mean, I give David Flowers all the time. I
Speaker 2: seen him personally. I know people he's.
Speaker 4: A big chirp guy, but his personal like brand, just
Speaker 4: Dave Portnally has been super impressive to watch.
Speaker 2: Did you really like dude?
Speaker 4: I know him fucking long, Like I've seen I've seen
Speaker 4: the trajectory and just seeing like what he's done and
Speaker 4: the moves he's making.
Speaker 2: It just makes a lot of sense. But it's impressive
Speaker 2: as much as barstool itself is super.
Speaker 1: Impressive, right, but his own indust.
Speaker 3: Own thing, it's crazy, it's impressive. Well. Watching his twenty
Speaker 3: twenty we we touched on a little bit last week.
Speaker 3: His the way he took down a pandemic, the content
Speaker 3: he was able to put out over and over again,
Speaker 3: the unboxing, the frozen pizzas. I've eaten Jack's pizza before,
Speaker 3: but literally every time I think of Jacks pizza and
Speaker 3: I think I'll fuck those guys because of the importantly
Speaker 3: he said fuck these guys. He was so mad about it, dude,
Speaker 3: he did such a great job.
Speaker 2: But we looked at it with like the amount of
Speaker 2: people he's helped to last year, the whole yeah small
Speaker 2: business thing, and the amount of athletes and people he
Speaker 2: got to give back to people who still to this
Speaker 2: day desperately desperately needed it. I thought that was not
Speaker 2: special at the same time as he can be and
Speaker 2: people have, you know, to say what they had to
Speaker 2: say about him, Fuck all that a guy's he really is, and.
Speaker 3: The way he will just get mad though you know
Speaker 3: how it is like every people want to get mad
Speaker 3: about something. We're in a group chat with him. He
Speaker 3: will he left Nashville. We're in a group chat with him,
Speaker 3: and he's like telling them soft Preds fans go fuck themselves.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, here come the clicks, dude. I pull
Speaker 3: up my Twitter. Let you guys know self ass Prends
Speaker 3: fans and to go fuck yourself. These dudes started coming
Speaker 3: down my throat no pause about like how I'm a
Speaker 3: soft ass and fuck you and all this stuff, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I didn't do nothing, dude. I was
Speaker 3: just I was just the messenger. But like people just
Speaker 3: want to get mad about whatever they whatever comes up,
Speaker 3: they want to hate on you. They want to everything music,
Speaker 3: our podcast when I'm playing, dude. That's one thing I
Speaker 3: envy about you being able to get out of it
Speaker 3: is when you're in the middle of the season, Like
Speaker 3: I'll go in, I'll have a couple of penalties and
Speaker 3: it's an absolute fucking bloodbath. I just get I get
Speaker 3: verbally destroyed on Twitter, and you know, you don't want
Speaker 3: to look, but a lot of times you do look
Speaker 3: and it eats at you. And definitely it's.
Speaker 5: One of those out like even absolutely success, you've had it, Uh,
Speaker 5: Like I'm always reaching for more, Like that's that's my
Speaker 5: personality is like I always like, you know, how.
Speaker 3: Can I stay relevant as a football player? How can
Speaker 3: I keep What's the next thing I can do to
Speaker 3: make myself that much younger. I'm turning thirty this year,
Speaker 3: and it's like I tore my ACL, I had a
Speaker 3: PD the year before. It's like, yo, how can I
Speaker 3: stop the bleeding on this? Like these last two years?
Speaker 3: And yeah, dude, when you read that stuff, it does suck.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a hard thing to look at
Speaker 3: because you're like, well, especially when you're trying your best,
Speaker 3: like legit, I'm giving it in my all course, and
Speaker 3: people are like, yo, fuck this dude. You're like, man, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just hard.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I talk about sports fans a lot. It's an interesting
Speaker 2: dynamic really is.
Speaker 1: Just between fans and players. Like having that access.
Speaker 4: It's just like it's just an interesting perspective that sports
Speaker 4: fans have that I I feel like is kind of
Speaker 4: not outdated, but it's just like it's like there's a disconnect,
Speaker 4: like don't have any ownership of these players just because
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 2: You live in this region, and your.
Speaker 4: Team's paying them a lot of money because they're the
Speaker 4: best in the fucking world. In this right, you have
Speaker 4: no say in how they fucking lead their lives, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or like there's literally people like shut up and.
Speaker 1: Do this, you know what I mean, Like the'll shut
Speaker 1: up and dribble stuff.
Speaker 3: And yeah, as.
Speaker 2: A fan, how the hell in your mind you think
Speaker 2: you have that? Say? Like, it's just an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 4: Like I don't I don't ship on sports fans, but
Speaker 4: I'm just like I feel like they're out of touch.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're they're like a little bit disconnected
Speaker 4: of like reality in the sense of what's really happening
Speaker 4: going on at home with them.
Speaker 1: You know what, You can be a real sports fan
Speaker 1: and just know that shit's going you know, they vicariously
Speaker 1: through you, dude.
Speaker 3: They see us on the field, they see you making music.
Speaker 3: And there's two ways in go I want to be that,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna strive to be that. Or Jelsey comes out, Well,
Speaker 3: how come he gets to be successful? How come this
Speaker 3: guy gets to do this? Well, this guy's not taking
Speaker 3: advantage advantage of this situation And that's.
Speaker 1: Their one connection to being like in that dream of
Speaker 1: all stuff, and like you said, why can't I be
Speaker 1: in that position?
Speaker 3: Like I was.
Speaker 1: Stoked to have this, to have you on the bus
Speaker 1: because I came right before you. Guys. I think we
Speaker 1: played each other in a preseason game. But I just
Speaker 1: know from uh huh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know from
Speaker 1: an undrafted player's mindset when you watch like what where
Speaker 1: you were and what you had and everything else, and
Speaker 1: it get cut get swindled in my mind because I'm
Speaker 1: obviously at that point in time, my identity is full.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be an NFL football player. So when
Speaker 1: you see somebody like a Johnny Football be at the
Speaker 1: top and then not, in my mind take advantage of
Speaker 1: that opportunity. You're like, how does this guy not have
Speaker 1: a perspective on what he's doing? Which I know, like
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, that's kind of how it works
Speaker 1: in such a competitive natured world. We're all just we're
Speaker 1: constantly competing no matter what. Like you said, you're sitting
Speaker 1: at home, you see people pass you by, Like we're
Speaker 1: so embedded to be competitive that when you see somebody
Speaker 1: in your mind ahead of you, it's like how are
Speaker 1: they not this Because I'm like, in my mind, man,
Speaker 1: if I was a draft pick, or if I was
Speaker 1: a first round or I was this guy, like I
Speaker 1: would be doing X y Z. But I know, ultimately,
Speaker 1: like I'm living in my own head about it. But
Speaker 1: I was fascinated to have you on to kind of
Speaker 1: learn about this up and down ride you've been on.
Speaker 2: I would say I lost a huge part of my
Speaker 2: competitive spirit when I got to the NFL. I would say,
Speaker 2: when I got handed you know, this amount of money,
Speaker 2: this first round pick, you're going to be the core.
Speaker 2: I just something about when I went to Cleveland, whether
Speaker 2: it was you know, my first couple OTAs or training
Speaker 2: camp or that, all of the confidence that I had,
Speaker 2: you know, and acquired from college going into the NFL.
Speaker 2: I the time September rolled around, in Game one rolled around,
Speaker 2: I had absolutely fucking zero of it left none. I
Speaker 2: had no confidence in what I was doing, how to
Speaker 2: play the position, not putting the time in, and it
Speaker 2: got to a point where I questioned myself a lot
Speaker 2: of if I could really even do it. And you know,
Speaker 2: I always look back and talk about the situation in
Speaker 2: Cleveland and if it was exactly right and you know,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. You know, it happened the
Speaker 2: way that it did, and a lot of it, you know,
Speaker 2: I take a lot of ownership on it because a
Speaker 2: lot of the things could have been overcome with hard
Speaker 2: work and time and spending more time in Cleveland and
Speaker 2: adapting that as home rather than how I kind of
Speaker 2: acted and maneuvered around, which was you know, I just
Speaker 2: kind of stayed away from it a little bit. Now,
Speaker 2: my life was all over the place, and you know,
Speaker 2: but the confidence and the competition that we were talking about,
Speaker 2: like we had guys undrafted free agents. I think we
Speaker 2: had maybe six or seven that year that were undrafted
Speaker 2: free agents on our Browns team that made the roster
Speaker 2: and ended up going on and having new contracts and
Speaker 2: doing great. So I got to see these guys and
Speaker 2: it never once in my mind clicked it. You know,
Speaker 2: this is what this guy is living and dreaming for
Speaker 2: to come in and just get in the building, to
Speaker 2: make any amount of money, and you have this opportunity
Speaker 2: that you're squandered. And for me, it goes back to
Speaker 2: just you know, I didn't have a lot of confidence
Speaker 2: in myself and my ability because of the way, you know,
Speaker 2: my life was kind of going and I don't think
Speaker 2: I ever just got that passion in that fire of
Speaker 2: something that you would have had trying to get on
Speaker 2: the team and trying to go through training camp like
Speaker 2: your life depending on it, going to that day at
Speaker 2: your locker where you open it up and make sure
Speaker 2: you don't have to go to see the GM to
Speaker 2: turn your playbook in type of thing. You know, I
Speaker 2: think that sense of me being a first round pick
Speaker 2: and having guaranteed years and things like that probably was
Speaker 2: a disservice to me looking back to say it that way,
Speaker 2: as much as if it was a blessing I needed.
Speaker 2: I needed a little tougher, stricter situation because I was
Speaker 2: just all over the mat.
Speaker 1: Think.
Speaker 3: I mean, people did it all the time. Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: did that allegedly with Dez Bryan. I don't know it.
Speaker 3: I don't know the guy personally, but I'm sure I've
Speaker 3: heard that he had like a legit like a babysitter,
Speaker 3: like hey, you can and can't do this in the
Speaker 3: beginning of his career and kind of helped him on
Speaker 3: that path. And then, you know, fit is everything. I
Speaker 3: got drafted Tennessee at eleven I was fucking pissed, not
Speaker 3: because it was Tennessee, but because two guys are drafted
Speaker 3: ahead of me. Like I've always been able to find
Speaker 3: a way to keep a chip, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Greg Robinson and Jake mack Gregg's right now, do you
Speaker 3: doing whatever in jail? I'm pretty sure he's in prison
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He got caught with like one hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 3: pounds of weed in a BMW. How do you how
Speaker 3: do you fit that in a coop?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, you get pulled over?
Speaker 3: You know your bro that thing he get pulled over?
Speaker 3: He was like by U tap, Like he's like an
Speaker 3: OL passa at the border, Like there's cops everywhere, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But yeah, happened like two years ago.
Speaker 3: I think it was the last off season. But the
Speaker 3: what I was trying to get out was, you know, Cleveland,
Speaker 3: they had a lot of success this year there where
Speaker 3: they've really turned around the culture and I'm super happy
Speaker 3: for them. But at the time, and nobody wanted to
Speaker 3: go to Cleveland. When we at the Rookie Symposium, We're
Speaker 3: like this fuck, this is blows that was not fun.
Speaker 3: You know, you're Reese's peanut butter cups and going. People
Speaker 3: got to play here like it's just down if you
Speaker 3: would have ended up at a spot like I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how the team is, but like
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll at Seattle, he's a high energy dude. Seems
Speaker 3: like he really gets gets love with the quarterbacks, like
Speaker 3: fits in real good. You go to a place like
Speaker 3: the Patriots that's superstructured, it could have been totally different.
Speaker 2: Well, we had a I mean I got I got
Speaker 2: to be My first sure offensive coordinator was Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 2: So from the football side of that, with him as
Speaker 2: far as the offense goes, was a real fucking treat
Speaker 2: to be around that guy and get to watch him
Speaker 2: coach you know o Wine tight end receivers. As far
Speaker 2: as the offense goes, what he did was badass. Now,
Speaker 2: the dysfunction and what we had in the building between
Speaker 2: like head coach and OC and GM and the things
Speaker 2: that we had go on behind the scenes are just
Speaker 2: ludicrous now looking back at it, Like GM's texting mid
Speaker 2: game to the O Seed to play a guy on
Speaker 2: the bit, like just damn really really.
Speaker 3: Tell you that stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, I had our quarterback coach, Dal Logins, he
Speaker 2: was he was awesome, Markansas se see guy. We had
Speaker 2: a cool relationship and we talked about a lot of
Speaker 2: this shit because them being coaches in the league for
Speaker 2: you know, four or five six years before that, they
Speaker 2: had never seen anything like this. And there's a clip
Speaker 2: that came out and I see it on Twitter every
Speaker 2: now and then, but it's from twenty fourteen one of
Speaker 2: our Browns games and Kyle Shanahan's going to call his
Speaker 2: play and the camera on the sidelines looking at him,
Speaker 2: and the head coach jumps on the mike, Mike Pettan
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, run the ball here, and Kyle
Speaker 2: Shanahan kind of looks at him like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Bro? I game plan all week,
Speaker 2: every fucking day for this defense to go out and
Speaker 2: get in seven to eleven in the red zone and
Speaker 2: run this play that we have called in our quarterback
Speaker 2: room to go score a fucking touchdown. What does he
Speaker 2: do fucking fakes it and keeps it and throws it
Speaker 2: in the flat for a touchdown. Just look there looking
Speaker 2: at each other like to standoff. It's a Mexican standoff
Speaker 2: and I've seen the clip and we're sitting at him
Speaker 2: for the fucking your piece in with mouthful of seeds,
Speaker 2: like happen along and I'm watching this go along, like
Speaker 2: what in the fuck are we doing? And that was
Speaker 2: how it was for the first you know, my first season,
Speaker 2: and you know, me and Brian Hoyer with Brian Hoyer
Speaker 2: was a guy who was trying to you know, this
Speaker 2: was his shot to get a chance to start, to
Speaker 2: go make some money, to make a name. And this
Speaker 2: has ended up that year propelled him to being able
Speaker 2: to go to Houston and back to New England and go,
Speaker 2: you know, live a life in the NFL. That year
Speaker 2: of him finally getting getting the start, you know, our
Speaker 2: relationship was a little rocky there. I'm the young punk
Speaker 2: that you know the media talks about every day and
Speaker 2: all the things that come into it.
Speaker 3: It's got to be tough on his side to see.
Speaker 2: I see it from his side though, I completely get it.
Speaker 2: If this punk kids in the way of my job,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna outwork him and out out out fucking grind
Speaker 2: him to go make my fucking four million bucks from
Speaker 2: the Browns and go on and try and make ten
Speaker 2: or twelve from Houston. That puts my kids through school,
Speaker 2: no question. But that changes my life to where my
Speaker 2: house is better, my life is better, my way of
Speaker 2: life is better. So like I completely get it from
Speaker 2: from Hoyer's view looking back at it now, at that
Speaker 2: point in time, we're fucking snarling each other every day.
Speaker 2: And next year, you know, offensive coordinator staff leaves, we
Speaker 2: get a new staff in, but we got Josh McCown
Speaker 2: and that guy. I will look back until I'm ninety
Speaker 2: years old one day and say, what a fucking dude, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a real one. He walks in the first day, O, man,
Speaker 2: Josh Cowen, nice to meet you. Anything you fucking need,
Speaker 2: anything you want to learn about football? Tie fucking stringing
Speaker 2: my backpack? You follow me around. I promise I'll fucking
Speaker 2: teach you some shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah just like that.
Speaker 2: You yeah, down every day, teach protections.
Speaker 1: Do this.
Speaker 2: I came from a system in college where we're looking
Speaker 2: out and if the linebackers tucked in, we're literally throwing
Speaker 2: a bubble to the fastest guy on our team. That's
Speaker 2: how we ran our offense. Fucking can can and flipping
Speaker 2: the play and all this, like that's just how how
Speaker 2: it was. I'd go, Jake Hook, throw the bubble, Jacob,
Speaker 2: We'd figure it out. We just ran backyard style of football.
Speaker 2: But you see the comparison from that first year to
Speaker 2: the second, and you know, I learned, I love, I
Speaker 2: love my second year there. I learned a lot about ball,
Speaker 2: got to be around some good guys. But just the
Speaker 2: two contrasts, it is all about fit. And I feel
Speaker 2: like if I had the situation I had my second
Speaker 2: year my first, things would have gone a lot different.
Speaker 2: You think, so, I know, so, oh.
Speaker 3: You know, so I like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I yeah.
Speaker 3: That building, dude, I mean the only like I had
Speaker 3: to be tough twenty fourteen Joe Thomas the best thing
Speaker 3: in there. Yeah, I mean other than that, Like you
Speaker 3: guys are win one two games a year.
Speaker 2: We were seven and four going into our Thursday night
Speaker 2: game at the break and then we lost all five
Speaker 2: coming home. That's tough, brutal real.
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how much dysfunction that there can be
Speaker 1: with certain teams, like in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Especially growing up, because you're like in the NFL, look
Speaker 3: at anything that's it. You think everyone's legit, you think
Speaker 3: everyone's a style, you think all the coaches got their
Speaker 3: shit together. Yeah, Like you can get there and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 1: In playing it is a little bit better than playing
Speaker 1: at Michigan playing at A and M Nebraska. Like you go,
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this is this is what it's like
Speaker 1: in college the operation the Obviously you're younger and you
Speaker 1: have no clue like what they're going through as coaches
Speaker 1: and shit, be like, oh if it's like this, like
Speaker 1: it's only gonna be ten x this in the pros
Speaker 1: like strength and conditioning like all this stuff, and you
Speaker 1: get training, training room, all this stuff, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of get there and you're like, you see that
Speaker 1: money goes.
Speaker 2: It's really downgraded from A and M to C.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, Oh money goes to the players, not
Speaker 1: facilities and how the players actually keep up with their
Speaker 1: bodies and stuff like stuff like all that. It's it's nuts, man.
Speaker 2: The NFL is a crazy The game has changed a
Speaker 2: lot than when we were growing up kids watching the NFL.
Speaker 2: I feel like in the last five or six years,
Speaker 2: not only are guys playing longer just because of I
Speaker 2: feel like the training method is certain things, but there
Speaker 2: is a Miles Garrett type of motherfucker coming out in
Speaker 2: the draft every single year.
Speaker 3: It seems like every years. Oh, this guy's the best
Speaker 3: grade in the last forty years. This guy's the best grading.
Speaker 3: Like these just more f.
Speaker 2: They are more playing fourteen years, Chase Young comes out
Speaker 2: this year, there's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be in other one that comes out of this show,
Speaker 3: another one at Ohio State Dude House. It just kicks
Speaker 3: him out right now.
Speaker 1: Like legit, bigger, faster, stronger. But it's like when does it?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Everything? Have you seen Miles Garrett?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Cross said that poor little white dude on the court.
Speaker 3: Did you see that? Cross him twice? And Dug staring
Speaker 3: at him like could he put in the NBA? I
Speaker 3: don't he got up bodies and dudes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean get that put him in there? A
Speaker 1: foul people foul out, all right?
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Speaker 4: We've had enough cocktails in the last seven days in
Speaker 4: National this place, Fox, Nashville.
Speaker 2: Fox, What a town. We can definitely talk about Nashville
Speaker 2: because this place has been this.
Speaker 4: How's your guys experience been traveling a lot? I'm probably
Speaker 4: gonna move here. Uh we've been talking a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you text me back in February and I'm
Speaker 3: moving in March first. Yeah, you've been.
Speaker 4: One like, uh pretty, I'm as bout as close as
Speaker 4: to nomad as you can be right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I uh, you know one I started. I started doing
Speaker 4: it when when COVID happened in l A. I was
Speaker 4: just like, I get the fuck out of here. You know,
Speaker 4: it was very very strict there. It's just like kind
Speaker 4: of had wanted to leave for a while. Not your
Speaker 4: typical l A type of guy. Really everyone's wanted to
Speaker 4: leave too, is there a long time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's just like it's just a certain
Speaker 2: vibe there that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get my you know what I mean, doesn't
Speaker 1: get the rock.
Speaker 4: So so it looked that felt like an opportunity to
Speaker 4: just and I and I kind of you know, I've
Speaker 4: been a touring man for a long time, with tour
Speaker 4: a lot like in the last probably you know, six
Speaker 4: seven years. So I love being around different places and
Speaker 4: I make music and podcastings. I do it all in
Speaker 4: my house really so and it's fairly easy nowadays.
Speaker 2: Like I had your buddies over there.
Speaker 4: They came and helped us produce one of our episodes
Speaker 4: last week and showed them our setup, like my music
Speaker 4: set up.
Speaker 1: To my fucking bedroom just running gone.
Speaker 4: It's super simple, like it really is, and it's and
Speaker 4: you can make studio quality, album quality stuff. So I
Speaker 4: just kind of noticed as I was traveling and started
Speaker 4: doing this, like I get new energy everywhere I go,
Speaker 4: you know, there I get a I got a new feeling,
Speaker 4: you know, the new things, new people. I'm seeing that
Speaker 4: I definitely am able to channel creatively and I feel that,
Speaker 4: you know, especially after being there seven years and making
Speaker 4: it more or less, you know, making music in the
Speaker 4: same three rooms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these two studios, I've worked in my house.
Speaker 4: So you know, it was just it was something I
Speaker 4: want to lean into for as long as I can.
Speaker 2: And Nashville definitely is on top of the totem.
Speaker 4: Poll as far as like where I would settle again,
Speaker 4: But I'm not a huge rust to settle.
Speaker 3: Why would you? It seems like I'm like watch and
Speaker 3: following you guys. It seems like you guys got a
Speaker 3: great gig going for you guys. You know, kids, you
Speaker 3: can go figure stuff out. Well, where have you been?
Speaker 3: You've been to Montana Scott's on here.
Speaker 1: That seemed like the dopest spot is Montana Animals every
Speaker 1: day and that.
Speaker 2: Anyone. I literally didn't see anyone the entire time, and
Speaker 2: it was awesome. It was what I wanted, you know, a.
Speaker 3: Lack of energy. Tough though, I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like I've missed that a little bit, Like, well, the awesome.
Speaker 4: Going I'm going places more or less for like two
Speaker 4: to three months.
Speaker 2: So so there we actually extended.
Speaker 4: I actually only got that for like I want to say,
Speaker 4: I started was six weeks and I extended to like
Speaker 4: nine weeks there because we loved it. But at the
Speaker 4: end we're like it it was really nice. It was
Speaker 4: really really nice. And and and I'm a big I'm
Speaker 4: a big nature guy. I've gotten a lot further down
Speaker 4: into spirituality and just I like.
Speaker 2: I like peace and quiet, I really do.
Speaker 4: So I know it doesn't look like it all the time,
Speaker 4: but yeah, just like the ying and the yang of
Speaker 4: it both, like I like, you know, we went to Scottsdale,
Speaker 4: which was fucking raw raw. We were going nuts. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a super fun place Montana, you know. And then
Speaker 4: I kind of that's kind of what we're doing in
Speaker 4: flip Flopping. I'm also haven't toured in a few years.
Speaker 4: So obviously as soon as this this is all kind
Speaker 4: of calming down with COVID, you're seeing the events open
Speaker 4: up and big crowds gathering. So I don't know if
Speaker 4: I'll settle until after this this next week this year.
Speaker 1: So what's the rhythm with ball don't lie?
Speaker 2: I mean it's every it's every other week. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: doing bi weekly, but it's pretty much by we as
Speaker 2: many as we can whenever we're around. You know, we
Speaker 2: haven't really talked about doing any guests or anything because
Speaker 2: you know, we're I would say, we're maybe moving a
Speaker 2: little bit different than most people that are doing the
Speaker 2: podcast of at least for me, like talking a lot
Speaker 2: more about life and just like our experiences we're going
Speaker 2: through it. What's helped us try and be better people
Speaker 2: and what makes you know, maybe our life a little
Speaker 2: easier or just trying to improve and what we're learning
Speaker 2: as we go on. We probably talk a little bit
Speaker 2: more deeper and you know, the most about a podcast.
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm not trying to you know, I
Speaker 2: never started ball On Wide to try and have a
Speaker 2: number one podcast in the world. I never wanted this
Speaker 2: to be my next thing that I'm doing to be
Speaker 2: a full time job or anything.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Something I want to have fun and share a little
Speaker 2: bit of my message and something that you know we're
Speaker 2: going for. You know, we've got to travel around do
Speaker 2: something in Scottsdale here, I'm going for self sustainable broch
Speaker 2: shit where you know, around.
Speaker 3: My dogs and underrated that's an underrated thing to say, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not seriously, I know a lot, Like I've
Speaker 4: no tons of athletes. I just wanted people to like
Speaker 4: hanging out. It's just been my favorite guy to He's
Speaker 4: just a fucking good old boy.
Speaker 2: I like good old boys, like you know, being talented
Speaker 2: or being successful.
Speaker 4: Trust me, I like I like to compete, you know,
Speaker 4: like what you're saying about competition. That's actually been something
Speaker 4: that I adam like, I adamantly work on getting rid
Speaker 4: of that chip, like looking at life and that's bottom line,
Speaker 4: like kind of a lot of my podcasts like you
Speaker 4: DM and we talk about it, like a lot of
Speaker 4: it's on like self growth because I just perspective change.
Speaker 4: I was very very much in the athlete bubble my
Speaker 4: whole life growing up, and and.
Speaker 2: Just what that does to you.
Speaker 4: What it takes to be great, you know, like to
Speaker 4: be a great athlete, It takes that takes that ego
Speaker 4: of like man, fuck you, it's a competition, fuck you,
Speaker 4: fuck you, I'm better, Like I'm gonna work hard or
Speaker 4: why not not me?
Speaker 2: You know, like, And it's been interesting. It's been really
Speaker 2: interesting for me personally.
Speaker 4: But I know he's like he's been on this wave
Speaker 4: and I kind of wanted to just see people have
Speaker 4: have people hear him talk about how we talk when
Speaker 4: we're on a balcony in my house, like or traveling around.
Speaker 2: We have these talks.
Speaker 4: And I was just like, let's just do a podcast,
Speaker 4: fuck it, you know, I just want people to know.
Speaker 2: I want people.
Speaker 4: Well, he came on Mind and it did really well,
Speaker 4: and people like, dude, thanks for showing Johnny like that.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know Johnny was like I thought he
Speaker 4: was a fucking deuce, you know, like what she's just because.
Speaker 1: Usually people control the narrative that when you don't have
Speaker 1: your own right and like I would never he's.
Speaker 2: Just not you know.
Speaker 4: So I was like, Yo, why don't we do it
Speaker 4: and just let's just talk how we talk, you know,
Speaker 4: And and that's really what it leans. It leans a
Speaker 4: lot more. It leans a lot more like kind of
Speaker 4: guy's guy like work.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's like.
Speaker 4: Trying to trying to go more down the spiritual like
Speaker 4: path of enjoying life, and you know, like the regrets.
Speaker 4: This is a guy who you know, I know what
Speaker 4: I do to myself if I fuck up, and I
Speaker 4: have one million people paying attention to watching what he had,
Speaker 4: you know, so I'm actually inspired by people like that
Speaker 4: who can like pick themselves up when it's tough. Man Like,
Speaker 4: when you when you fall from graces, it's really it's
Speaker 4: really a challenge to pick yourself up and be able
Speaker 4: to enjoy life, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it really is, and a lot of people are faking it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I started to see
Speaker 4: a shift in him personally where I was like, you're happy,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you're doing like every
Speaker 4: day to day he was, you know at my house
Speaker 4: in scott said day to day more happier than I was,
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm And I had no fuck,
Speaker 4: I didn't have these like you know, I didn't have
Speaker 4: I never really dealt with depression or some of the
Speaker 4: things he dealt with or at the scale he was
Speaker 4: dealing it. And I was neighbors with him then and
Speaker 4: I saw how he was then. So I started to
Speaker 4: see the energy shift where it was just like man,
Speaker 4: he had he's at peace with it, and it's it's
Speaker 4: been inspiring to me to be for me to be
Speaker 4: around because I know I didn't have those There were
Speaker 4: very drastic, you know, drastic fall from graces where everyone personally,
Speaker 4: like everyone in here. You know, it's hard sometimes it's
Speaker 4: hard to gather better and no one's watching. No one's watching,
Speaker 4: no one gives a ship and real shit, and like
Speaker 4: no one's watching.
Speaker 2: So to have a lot of people watch.
Speaker 4: And kind of have that and break that, break that down,
Speaker 4: break those walls down where he can be happy genuinely,
Speaker 4: like have a comforting energy to be around, be a
Speaker 4: nice person.
Speaker 2: It's inspiring me. I like that.
Speaker 1: And it's relatable because everyone says their listens like oh damn,
Speaker 1: Like everyone goes through Yeah, sure, everyone's.
Speaker 2: Got I mean, as much as we get hyped up,
Speaker 2: and whether it's music or sports or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: you're put on a pedestal when it's really not. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody has the same problems at home this that that
Speaker 2: anybody across the world has. But the media and sports,
Speaker 2: traditional media at least what we deal with in the
Speaker 2: locker room or anything like that, doesn't pay a lot
Speaker 2: of attention to it a lot of time a time
Speaker 2: in it. I think the mainstream media almost dehumanizes people
Speaker 2: more and puts you on just strictly athlete and what
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, the cool thing about the way media
Speaker 2: shiftings now is this is media. This is your platform,
Speaker 2: your This is your own platform to talk the way
Speaker 2: you want to talk, get your message out because I
Speaker 2: guarantee you after a game or this or that you
Speaker 2: get back in the car and drive home. At least
Speaker 2: for me back in the day, I'd always think about
Speaker 2: different things I would want to say, or this or that,
Speaker 2: or getting done with a sporting event where you lose
Speaker 2: your immediate reaction going into the fucking podium in the
Speaker 2: locker room with your fucking suit on, sweating like a
Speaker 2: fucking pigs like yeah, bro through three fucking picks and
Speaker 2: we lost thirty to nothing.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, do you think my way?
Speaker 2: So like the whole the whole thing is kind of
Speaker 2: like shifting and just changing to where you can tell
Speaker 2: your story the way you want to. And I think
Speaker 2: hearing you say earlier about like getting on Twitter and
Speaker 2: seeing certain things. I've used the app button on Twitter
Speaker 2: to see what people say to me, right, I've used
Speaker 2: to it just people in my mentions, whether it's random
Speaker 2: fans or all this. Yeah, I've used that to over
Speaker 2: the last year find what still makes me pissed off. So,
Speaker 2: for example, find something that I used to be a
Speaker 2: reactor on Twitter. You say something to me, I'm waiting
Speaker 2: for the opportunity.
Speaker 3: You gottammo, you got am on everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. My favorite thing now I use
Speaker 2: it as that hit me and made me feel some
Speaker 2: type of way. Why does that make me feel that
Speaker 2: way anymore? Why do I feel like that in my
Speaker 2: head or in my heart that makes me want to
Speaker 2: get mad at this person, want to say something back
Speaker 2: or react negatively or something that I'm going to regret.
Speaker 2: And I think I've used a lot of that and
Speaker 2: the negativity and the hate that I've had towards me
Speaker 2: to work on things that I didn't necessarily like about
Speaker 2: myself or I needed to fix or didn't even know
Speaker 2: bothered me.
Speaker 3: For the process that people are listening to this going fuck,
Speaker 3: I deal with that all the time. So when you
Speaker 3: see something that makes you upset, what's the process you
Speaker 3: go through to get rid of those that feeling inside?
Speaker 2: I've I used to be a the same fast twitch
Speaker 2: where I was on the football field, I was in
Speaker 2: every aspect of my head throughout my life. I see something,
Speaker 2: I react right away. Yeah, my biggest thing is just
Speaker 2: to take back and look at it and just kind
Speaker 2: of whether I type it out immediately and something that
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna send, I review it, I look back
Speaker 2: at it. I make sure that that's how I want
Speaker 2: to interact with people. And I'm the biggest believer these
Speaker 2: days and positivity and good fucking vibes. I have no
Speaker 2: reason to be mad at anybody anymore. I've let a
Speaker 2: lot of the hate out of my heart go from
Speaker 2: the past of whoever I felt wrong me or this
Speaker 2: or that, or the guy on ESPN who's telling me
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking bomb. Right, Yeah, but you hit Johnny.
Speaker 4: The biggest thing is you've hit it yourself for a for.
Speaker 2: A long time. I mean nobody, you don't, at least
Speaker 2: for me. I beat myself up more than anybody in
Speaker 2: the media or anybody outside the world ever could have
Speaker 2: every day to the point of where I was questioned
Speaker 2: in my life if it was worth it was this,
Speaker 2: And it got to a point of where I never
Speaker 2: thought I'd have a good sunny day. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 2: know if I'd have a day where I was ever
Speaker 2: happy again. So I look at it now and looking
Speaker 2: on my phone and we're talking about that is I
Speaker 2: have so much sense of gratitude for even being where
Speaker 2: I'm at and being able to even continue on through
Speaker 2: life that I'm able to slow down and kind of
Speaker 2: sit back and just relax and look at things in
Speaker 2: the bigger picture. You know, I try not, I try
Speaker 2: my best. I still fail daily and weekly to handle
Speaker 2: every situation correctly because I got my I got my things,
Speaker 2: I got my morals, I got my value. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm like, you cross them? My dad says to
Speaker 2: slap that motherfucker in the mouth when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: and that's just the way I was raised. If you
Speaker 2: crossed your line, does this, X, Y, and Z. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just how I was. And now I'm getting better
Speaker 2: at it. It's a work in progress, but more socially aware,
Speaker 2: and I treat people the way that I won't want
Speaker 2: to be treated for the most part, and if I don't,
Speaker 2: if I try to apologize and make sure it doesn't
Speaker 2: happen again moving forward, it could all be so simple
Speaker 2: if you allow your mind to believe it.
Speaker 3: That's very cool.
Speaker 7: Football is like a football elswell said, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 7: you like that, But dude, football is I mean to
Speaker 7: be to be great at what y'all do.
Speaker 2: It just takes so much aggression. And you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, really wired. You guys are wired different, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 2: fucking trenches. I try to We played you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your first away never was against the Titans. Congratulations,
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Yeah, that was awesome. I was outstanding.
Speaker 3: We're a tough flight home. I'll tell you that. It
Speaker 3: was a tough flight home for the boys.
Speaker 2: I figured everybody would want to get the hell out
Speaker 2: of cleaning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at that point, I was like, give me the
Speaker 3: funk out of here. That's tough.
Speaker 4: But you're just savage, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: you're I appreciate that, and but you're wired in a
Speaker 4: certain way where that's why you are.
Speaker 2: That's why you're so great.
Speaker 4: You're obviously God's gifted and talent and size that's rare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty three forty three hundred dolls, dude, hopefully one
Speaker 3: of them got my back. Dude, that's pretty solid. But
Speaker 3: I just don't that's it's tough, dude. Like having the
Speaker 3: mindset you talk about all the time of being like
Speaker 3: competitive and yeah, like we were bred the same way.
Speaker 3: If you play football at a young age, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like you fucking scratch and claw, and you keep
Speaker 3: going until that guy quits before you. And if you quit,
Speaker 3: you're a bitch. You gotta do something different. And it's
Speaker 3: like the whole ego thing is so difficult for me
Speaker 3: to wrap my mind around, and I tussle with it
Speaker 3: all the time because it's like I read books like
Speaker 3: Egos the Enemy by Ryan hall Day. It's a great
Speaker 3: book if anybody wants to read that. That's a solid
Speaker 3: book to like kind of catch yourself up on, like
Speaker 3: what's really should be ego because ego is not a
Speaker 3: bad thing if you use it in the right way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, it's It's well, self improvement is the most
Speaker 3: important thing. And I wish I knew that when I
Speaker 3: was twenty one, twenty two. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: things that bugged me wouldn't bugged me. Is like they
Speaker 3: don't bug me as much anymore. I still get upset
Speaker 3: about stuff when people say things, but like, at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, no one knows. And it's so
Speaker 3: weird how like the Twitter thing is because if someone
Speaker 3: tweets the me, he goes, you're a dogshit husband, you'r
Speaker 3: a dog shit dad. It's like to me, I'm like,
Speaker 3: say whatever you want because they don't know me. But
Speaker 3: the minute someone say you're a bad football player, I'm
Speaker 3: like fuck because they get to watch me every Sunday
Speaker 3: and like that do they know that I don't, you know?
Speaker 3: And so I've like tussled with this ego thing for
Speaker 3: so long and yeah, like pregame, like during the game,
Speaker 3: like that's who I am, a primitive fight or flight
Speaker 3: like I'm a fighter, Like that's that that allows me
Speaker 3: to display that. But you know, when if things, when
Speaker 3: do you stop looking at things? Is ego? I got
Speaker 3: to be better than everybody? Then start looking at things objectively,
Speaker 3: like how do I accomplish this goal without having to
Speaker 3: frustrate or upset everybody else around me to get the
Speaker 3: thing done? And that's what I've like this last six months.
Speaker 3: We talked about it a few times with this ACL dude,
Speaker 3: this it's fucking brutal. I don't even want to go outside.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go outside. I don't want to
Speaker 3: do stuff. I wake up, I get up in the morning,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta go tussle with this again. The
Speaker 3: first time I really went and did anything social in
Speaker 3: the last six months was at that Preds game.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And even when I'm at the Preds game chugging the beer,
Speaker 3: thank you very much, I'm a colleg yeah, and I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, yeah, I felt bad. I did feel
Speaker 3: like back to life.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: But even when I was drinking the beer, dude, my
Speaker 3: only thought was don't drink this beer because if you do,
Speaker 3: that's inflammation. Then your needs this and that. So I
Speaker 3: just poured that thing all over me. Didn't consume one
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Wow, one ounce, That's crazy, that was your thought them.
Speaker 3: It's just it's wild how it consumes you and watching
Speaker 3: your process of what you go through. Just because our
Speaker 3: successes have looked different in the NFL doesn't mean I
Speaker 3: don't battle the same thing as you do. Every single
Speaker 3: NFL player deals with that, whether they want to admit
Speaker 3: it or not. So when I'm going through and I
Speaker 3: see that, I know that it's possible for me to
Speaker 3: now change my mindset when I get out of there,
Speaker 3: because the way I live it's so obsessive and it's
Speaker 3: so like focused on football. Everything is like how could
Speaker 3: I maximize this? And then when I'm done, like I
Speaker 3: had to make a big one eighty otherwise it's not sustainable.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's great that you're like that, though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the first step is getting is getting your mind
Speaker 2: to allow allow it to think that way. And maybe
Speaker 2: a lot of it's just the youth and and like
Speaker 2: maybe the football growing up, but maybe it's just just
Speaker 2: being young and getting to a point of where maybe
Speaker 2: you're everybody reaches the point and maybe where they're able
Speaker 2: to start having their mind go to that point where
Speaker 2: they can begin to understand it a little bit. People
Speaker 2: asking all the time, I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's one single thing that happened that made me look
Speaker 2: at it any differently. It's just life kind of started
Speaker 2: working in a way where my mind started thinking this
Speaker 2: and I just grabbed onto it and fucking held on
Speaker 2: for dear life. And now I've got people around me,
Speaker 2: and I surround myself for the first time with people
Speaker 2: who are like minded and get it, and you know,
Speaker 2: we're all going in a collective type of way with
Speaker 2: the goal of trying to be better. Is it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's really.
Speaker 4: I think there's a shift happening though, And I mean, dude,
Speaker 4: I didn't grow up like I didn't think about any
Speaker 4: of this ship.
Speaker 2: I just trying to fuck as many girls I could still.
Speaker 1: Be the best in our sports.
Speaker 2: It hasn't hasn't changed much there.
Speaker 4: To go to the bar, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like just the idea of like I just know, like
Speaker 4: it actually gets it actually gets me out of bed,
Speaker 4: It gets that gets my rocks off to like think
Speaker 4: that I'm I'm seeing things on a bigger scale and
Speaker 4: it's not. I realized, Like bro, I think most of
Speaker 4: us walking the streets, like athlete or not, you're so
Speaker 4: immersed in your own bubble, like think you can zoom
Speaker 4: out a little bit, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: that's what it feels like, zooming out just like okay,
Speaker 4: like this isn't who I am, Like I'm not, I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not my last mistake, I'm not my last thought,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that there's a bigger
Speaker 4: that's That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 2: And that's where I feel like Johnny's gone down that path.
Speaker 4: And I think most people like my stuff and listen
Speaker 4: to some of my stuff that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm not going from a preaching perspective. I'm just saying, dude,
Speaker 2: I was the opposite.
Speaker 4: I was such a you know, I wasn't outwardly egotistical,
Speaker 4: like oh I'm the man fun you know, but like
Speaker 4: in my head, it was all about me, every relationship,
Speaker 4: how I reacted to my girl, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: even the way I was thinking about things just.
Speaker 2: Not I just realized at one point I was like, dude, everything.
Speaker 4: I really think everything revolves around me all the time,
Speaker 4: and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not the case. You know. If I would have
Speaker 2: wrote down my character traits of how I treated people
Speaker 2: and what I was doing at my time in the
Speaker 2: league twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, it would have been just
Speaker 2: a horrendous list of not even doing it by accident.
Speaker 2: But like Mike's saying, just thinking things revolve around me
Speaker 2: and things are supposed to go this way. How the
Speaker 2: way I was living my life was just so shallow
Speaker 2: and closed minded and narrow minded to the point now
Speaker 2: of like like I said earlier, can it can be simple.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be this cluttered, crazy rat race
Speaker 2: to get to the end goal of what just and
Speaker 2: live your life? And we talk about this all the time,
Speaker 2: is I'm chasing happiness, and that's one thing that I'm
Speaker 2: chasing in my life. I got more than I need,
Speaker 2: still hungry to go and try and get more. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, I'm chasing putting more smiles on
Speaker 2: my face every year than I did last year.
Speaker 1: Yees go, how do you think you chase happiness?
Speaker 2: Though? Man, I'm starting to be honest with myself probably
Speaker 2: and what I like to do. You know, for a
Speaker 2: long time in my life, like I said earlier, I
Speaker 2: didn't like doing much of anything. Going and picking a
Speaker 2: football up didn't make me happy. Going and riding a
Speaker 2: dirt bike or doing this, or going to blake or
Speaker 2: doing any of that. Golf didn't all. None of this
Speaker 2: stuff really really made me happy anymore. So now me
Speaker 2: and him play fucking beer pong all the time. I
Speaker 2: haven't won a game since I've been in Nashville, got it,
Speaker 2: but it gives me my competitive edge. Is something I
Speaker 2: love to do. I love little bar games. I played darts.
Speaker 2: I'm up two hundred and fifty bucks a day. I'm
Speaker 2: making money and playing bar games. And it's just like
Speaker 2: I'm starting to see different things in my life that
Speaker 2: are really coming back. I'm almost reverting back to my childhood.
Speaker 2: I guess I would say I'm finding more things that
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I liked that I did growing up.
Speaker 2: I'm slowly starting to get back to it. Like second
Speaker 2: week into Nashville, we're in the country, going, playing golf,
Speaker 2: doing things. Is being away from people. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I love this again. I want to start doing this.
Speaker 2: And you know, luckily where I'm out of my life.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not married, no girl, solo, fucking ranger
Speaker 2: out here trying to take on the world. So you know,
Speaker 2: I have the luxury to be able to kind of
Speaker 2: just do what I want to do and find what
Speaker 2: makes me happy. Now, if you had to ask me
Speaker 2: this a year ago, i'd have told you I don't
Speaker 2: fucking know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it's like enjoying like just the
Speaker 1: small things that like bring you joy. Because when you
Speaker 1: when you when you say that, I'm like, and I
Speaker 1: get this from like the book we were on self awareness,
Speaker 1: because a lot of this shit we're talking about is
Speaker 1: like self awareness perspective. And it's like the way they
Speaker 1: talk about it in the book is like happiness is
Speaker 1: on cause like how can you acquire something that you
Speaker 1: you innately already have, and ultimately, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's more so realizing that you've got to
Speaker 1: drop a bunch of ill illusions that we labor ourselves with,
Speaker 1: like football player, all this stuff that we think revolves
Speaker 1: so much around us. It's more like dropping those illusions.
Speaker 1: But ultimately it seems like we're like saying the same
Speaker 1: stuff because I'm like, I've heard you say that too,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do you chase happiness? So you
Speaker 1: explained that, you explained it to I was like, Okay.
Speaker 2: You spend more time with yourself by yourself throughout a
Speaker 2: day than you do anybody else, your wife, whoever it
Speaker 2: may be. You spend probably more time in your own
Speaker 2: head with yourself twenty four hours a day, seven days
Speaker 2: a fucking week. If you can't fucking be honest with yourself,
Speaker 2: how are you gonna be honest with other people around it?
Speaker 2: And I think that's where self awareness with me has
Speaker 2: come from, is man, I felt like I used to
Speaker 2: be a guy that would lie and I lied to
Speaker 2: myself about you know, what I saw through my eyes
Speaker 2: or what was going on or whatever. But when I
Speaker 2: started to truly be honest with myself. It's worthy acceptance
Speaker 2: of not really loving football, and this came and not
Speaker 2: wanting to do that. It all came from just being like,
Speaker 2: you feel this way, be honest with yourself about it,
Speaker 2: embrace it and let it be what it is. And
Speaker 2: from that I felt like I continue to achieve more
Speaker 2: self awareness through that. It starts yourself honesty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: Oh not the conversation you thought Johnny Maanzel was gonna
Speaker 4: come on and have.
Speaker 2: But here we are.
Speaker 3: A fucking up anyway.
Speaker 1: You got you guys?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Guys? Are the with the guests? Now do the third one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Where am I starting at the top?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah?
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Speaker 1: Hey they are. You can be working on those.
Speaker 3: They're getting shorter. You know how you got it, Well,
Speaker 3: you're getting shorter. That's that of bullshit. Once you guys
Speaker 3: gave me it was goddamn.
Speaker 2: Tail.
Speaker 3: Two cities in front of port and oil.
Speaker 1: You guys they're reading the pop up.
Speaker 3: Yeah they had pictures. You just had some fucking guy
Speaker 3: putting headphones in. Uh hey, but hey they stick.
Speaker 1: Though you'll be working out thinking they're gonna fall sweating,
Speaker 1: they stick. They're phenomenal. Joe Rogan, Yeah, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make sure we're a bunch of
Speaker 1: I'm trying amazing making sure. You know, you gotta get
Speaker 1: the you gotta get the phone. You're doing a massage that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they crushed it.
Speaker 3: Did you do the boat thing? Did we do the
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Speaker 3: Oh, then what do you meant about.
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Speaker 2: You guys.
Speaker 3: If you don't wear boas headphones, fuck yourself, dude. I know,
Speaker 3: I know, we're talking about ego and all that. They Literally,
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Speaker 3: Pop on the pod. Put fucking listen to whatever you
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Speaker 2: Due, I like, I like this question on the screen.
Speaker 2: I want, I want. Will Julio Jones be a Titan?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so?
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: I dude, I'm all fun. He's like, okay, my ships.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm in dude. Those are many pushing the
Speaker 3: chips and I almost broke our shots. You can get
Speaker 3: at the merch store, at barstool, whatever dot com.
Speaker 1: If Julio goes to the Titans, like cancel Christmas dude
Speaker 1: on paper man, how is that not one of the
Speaker 1: better offenses is gonna watch this I'm not is all
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Verbal's all right, I'm not on the Titan.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Tannehill. You like, he's an Aggie.
Speaker 2: We love him. You give him, Julio, what the weapons
Speaker 2: you guys already have? I think you, uh, how could
Speaker 2: you not have? I hopes?
Speaker 1: I mean you got Derek Henry at two thousand yard
Speaker 1: rusher an O line like they have a j Brown
Speaker 1: Julio Jones on the other side, Tannehill delivering the rock.
Speaker 1: Anthony firkser, Oh yeah, don't sleep on for guys.
Speaker 3: Big sure, yeah, probably runs a five flat four, but
Speaker 3: he has like a one four ten split dude, Yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: What's your take on this?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's Cam Newton is the best
Speaker 1: player to ever lace them up.
Speaker 3: As take unpopular opinions, I think, I mean, you're arguably
Speaker 3: that Tim Tebow's arguably.
Speaker 2: That I said it took a bow to I was
Speaker 2: gonna say I took a national championship to be considered
Speaker 2: the go to college football I would I would think
Speaker 2: that would would have to be fair.
Speaker 3: That's a fair that's a fair statement.
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush definitely gets a bad shake because he took
Speaker 2: a little money in college.
Speaker 3: Jesus, he did what.
Speaker 1: He did what every college football player wants. They all
Speaker 1: want to get like, oh, hey, we you know, am
Speaker 1: I going to be recruited high enough to give me
Speaker 1: a little vehicle?
Speaker 2: Mean? This is this is the whole thing that, hopefully
Speaker 2: in the next couple of years changes in college football is.
Speaker 2: And these guys come from nowhere to get a chance
Speaker 2: to go play football. And guys are coming up to you,
Speaker 2: you know, offering you money or this and that. This
Speaker 2: is more money than you've ever seen in your life
Speaker 2: your family has in their bank account. Tell them you're
Speaker 2: gonna punish this kid because of that, because maybe his
Speaker 2: family got a Malibu beach house while he was playing
Speaker 2: at USC or whatever. But hey, some players, some players
Speaker 2: are better than others. If you fucking ran the rock
Speaker 2: like Reggie Bush should have fucking two malibui, I don't.
Speaker 3: Think that's a bad thing at all. I was praying
Speaker 3: to the gods I would get some money in college.
Speaker 3: I would did I go check that mailbox? Goddamn another
Speaker 3: bill I was hoping for. I wanted something.
Speaker 2: But even at Michigan bro.
Speaker 3: I caught myself a couple of like free meals. Every
Speaker 3: once in a while, I go pay a tab and
Speaker 3: they'd be like, now, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Oh line. In any college locker room or NFL locker room,
Speaker 2: it's funny. For the most the O linemen that I
Speaker 2: feel like I've been around, they're always about the free meal,
Speaker 2: the free.
Speaker 3: Get that free Shoot, that's all I got it. If
Speaker 3: I ever got something it was like a free meal,
Speaker 3: like some waffle fries and a chicken sandwich, I'd be like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 3: let me get that tab, I guess, and they're like, no,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. And I'm like walking the class
Speaker 3: like I'm a fucking gangster. I'm out here breaking NCAA violations.
Speaker 3: No problem for some waffle fries. But you hear about
Speaker 3: like Matthew Stafford getting five hundred thousand dollars in his
Speaker 3: mailbox and.
Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to walk in and have that nice envelope sitting.
Speaker 2: Yeah did You might have talked about this a couple
Speaker 2: of times before. Yeah, dude, I got lucky. I went. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we went to we would go to like the Wild
Speaker 2: World of Sports for the College Football Awards at the
Speaker 2: end of the year. And then if you want an
Speaker 2: award there. We went to Miami and it was for
Speaker 2: the National Championship Game, and I'll never forget getting off
Speaker 2: the plane and walking the baggage, claiming, this guy comes
Speaker 2: up behind me. I didn't have my fucking bows noise canceling.
Speaker 2: This guy's got a future in this. This guy comes
Speaker 2: out to behind me. As I go, how would you
Speaker 2: want to make three grand? I'll turn around like, fuck yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: sixty five bucks in my bank account and waiting on that,
Speaker 2: uh you know, beginning of the month January stipend check
Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty dollars or whatever it was. I'm like,
Speaker 2: hell yeah, I want to make I want to make
Speaker 2: three grand. So I take this guy's number down. Had
Speaker 2: one of my boys at the time, who was you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I created a little bit of an entourage
Speaker 2: at this point. My boys.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants everybody wants that. That's when the show was hot.
Speaker 2: I was watching it every day. At this point. I
Speaker 2: had to have the boys around. Vinnie Chase guys, and
Speaker 2: I had this. I had one of my boys take
Speaker 2: this guy's number. We're doing all sneaky. We don't want
Speaker 2: to get caught. We're trying to learn from everybody else
Speaker 2: that's got caught, and uh, you know, may or may
Speaker 2: not have gone back to this guy's condo and signed
Speaker 2: probably ten thousand pieces, oh relads everything.
Speaker 1: So he got out.
Speaker 2: He gave me three grand, got this port. I'm on
Speaker 2: Instagram trying to find out how to get a table
Speaker 2: at live.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have.
Speaker 2: Five hundred dollars minimum stage tables Live on Sunday? It's like,
Speaker 2: what I'm going for it. So I'm signing these autographs
Speaker 2: and this other guy who's like bringing the bringing the
Speaker 2: pictures over, He's like, yoh, you're getting fucking ripped off.
Speaker 2: Here's this guy's number. Hit him up. He'll give you
Speaker 2: thirty grand. And I'm like, fuck yeah, man, I'm three
Speaker 2: and then thirty. I'm gonna get out of here with
Speaker 2: thirty three grand.
Speaker 3: For those of you with the caculator, that's thirty three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: So this guy pretty much is like, all right, go
Speaker 2: to this room with the fountain blue. All the stuff
Speaker 2: will be in there, laid out, and when you're done,
Speaker 2: just send me a picture of all of that. I'll
Speaker 2: give you the code of the safe. The money will
Speaker 2: be in there. Yeah, that's some fucking probably probably.
Speaker 3: Football.
Speaker 2: For the next four months, I went to that fucking
Speaker 2: condo once a month in fucking South Beach. Knock that
Speaker 2: shit out. I am a professional boxer and unboxer. Every
Speaker 2: mini helmet flat picture you could see. And it's funny
Speaker 2: when I signed autographs these days with my guy out
Speaker 2: of New Jersey, He's like, Jude, you's fucking packing yourself.
Speaker 2: I'll give you some extra bucks. No ship, but I
Speaker 2: got to go down. I got to I got to
Speaker 2: make a somewhat of a decent living in college. And
Speaker 2: we went.
Speaker 3: Times a year.
Speaker 2: We went nine six week next year. So if the
Speaker 2: NCAA wants to take my fucking nine and four season
Speaker 2: away and my Chick fil A Bowl against Duke, fucking
Speaker 2: blow me.
Speaker 3: One of the NCAA said, hey, we're taking your we're
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Speaker 2: Of the stuff there.
Speaker 3: Twitsch kind of ruthless like that. Which quarterback will make
Speaker 3: the biggest impact this year? Which quarterback will make the
Speaker 3: bigges impact this year? Johnny, it's a great question.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to start. I guess Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence is going to start for sure. I would not,
Speaker 2: you know, put my money on the fucking Jets, so
Speaker 2: any of the other I would. I would say Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: I like Trevor Lawrence the most out of this class.
Speaker 2: I think the guy's stud Jacksonville's got to be good eventually.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, keep a lot of it.
Speaker 1: You still keep up with, like watching the quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: all that time.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely more of a college football fan. I I uh,
Speaker 2: I'm definitely more of a fan these days. I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily have a team other than watch A and M
Speaker 2: and support my guys there. But you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: fan of you know, the real of the guys who
Speaker 2: like us come on the boss and hang out and
Speaker 2: do that. But you know, I did get a chance
Speaker 2: to watch a lot of these guys plays. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, probably the best situation will probably have to
Speaker 2: be Mac Jones. I mean, if one program is like
Speaker 2: the other, isn't New England more you know, like Alabama
Speaker 2: than than anywhere else.
Speaker 3: But Mac Jones had to compute Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he might be in a good situation because
Speaker 1: you don't know how to I think.
Speaker 2: I think Justin Field will probably get thrown into the
Speaker 2: fire a little bit, and uh in Chicago, and and
Speaker 2: then you got Trey Lance and San Francisco is probably
Speaker 2: gonna get the wait half a season and the probably
Speaker 2: be thrown in there as well. So the guy who's
Speaker 2: gonna start from opening days is probably has to be
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Maybe's that Wilson. I don't know who else.
Speaker 2: They haven't uh getting rid of Darnold. I think he
Speaker 2: has to start. Huh yeah, pit second pick. You know
Speaker 2: in New York you want him to be your savior
Speaker 2: and lead you back to the to the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you think you'd have to get him in there early?
Speaker 3: Do you think? Uh? You think Tim Tebow is gonna
Speaker 3: make it make the team in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: I would be uh. I would be surprised if he
Speaker 2: went from playing quarterback to uh to making the team
Speaker 2: as a tight end. But I will say this, I
Speaker 2: would be very, very stupid to ever doubt and say
Speaker 2: that Tim Tebow can't do something. I am a huge
Speaker 2: t Bow guy. I go to the Heisman every year
Speaker 2: because I don't fucking play football anymore and every other
Speaker 2: guy does. So it's Teebo and me and we're next
Speaker 2: to each other every year that I've been and he's
Speaker 2: a legend, stand up guys, definitely a lot different than me.
Speaker 2: It's funny as hell when you turn on ESPN the Heisman,
Speaker 2: it's him sitting there like this and it's me a
Speaker 2: couple of bud lights in so sorry so but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I would think, you know, Urban being his guy.
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't sign him and put him the
Speaker 2: position to not make the team. So I would love
Speaker 2: to see a jump ass.
Speaker 3: That'd be bad as if he did that.
Speaker 2: I would love to see him come back. I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember the last memory of t Bow in the
Speaker 2: NFL for me is uh is I feel like the
Speaker 2: game winner to the Marius Thomas on the slant against
Speaker 2: the Steelers in the playoffs. You know, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 2: That's a playoff win that. You know, a lot of
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks who are making a lot of money, you know,
Speaker 2: can't say that they have under their belt.
Speaker 1: No pain. It's hard to bet against Tebow. You're right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's got like the dudes about it.
Speaker 2: It's like huge, he's jacked, he's strong, he's athletic enough,
Speaker 2: like the guy obviously wants to if he's doing this,
Speaker 2: he wants to go in there and grind it out
Speaker 2: and try and get better. The hardest thing I think
Speaker 2: is that's a lot of years off. I'm really getting,
Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt, hat placement and getting your right
Speaker 2: hand around the block on an outside zone type of thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what he's in there for. But
Speaker 2: you also can't have a one dimensional tight end in
Speaker 2: the NFL where he just runs routes and does things
Speaker 2: like that. And I'm I think, I don't know a
Speaker 2: tight end game in the NFL has changed as drastically
Speaker 2: as any position in the league. I feel like just
Speaker 2: there's some real motherfuckers running routes at tight end right now,
Speaker 2: Like the guy in Oakland Waller guy is unbelievable. They're
Speaker 2: just getting bigger, faster, and quicker, and their catch radiuses
Speaker 2: are huge. I never really saw a team I as
Speaker 2: being that huge guy who will go out and make
Speaker 2: some plays. But I think, you know, I hope he
Speaker 2: makes it.
Speaker 1: He's going there to fucking block to like taking shots
Speaker 1: in the mouth against these freakds like Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: Everyone want a wide fucking nine technique and I'm fucking
Speaker 2: playing tight end for my first game. Like the fuck
Speaker 2: wants to go block down you're a quarterback, I don't.
Speaker 3: I hate having to block a wide nine with a
Speaker 3: tight end. That's brutal. I'm like, you know, that's tough.
Speaker 3: Fucking those d ns are hard, dude. You put a
Speaker 3: guy that's like relatively the same weight, the tight ends
Speaker 3: have a hard job.
Speaker 2: Like like, get him off the ball a little bit,
Speaker 2: give me a little chip, let me help my tackle
Speaker 2: out out on the flat and catch the ball. Let
Speaker 2: Tebo do his thing. I think that's a no brainer,
Speaker 2: no brainer. But as far as like stretching the field
Speaker 2: vertical and doing some things that you have to do
Speaker 2: in the NFL, it's a tight end position. Gets asked
Speaker 2: to do a fucking.
Speaker 3: Lot, and nerver Meyer's offense is not a whole lot
Speaker 3: of not running a lot of tight ends out there,
Speaker 3: not only twelve, a lot of thirteen. I mean, if
Speaker 3: he's gonna run the same thing he did Ohio State
Speaker 3: or anywhere else, he's been right all day long, and
Speaker 3: so now then Tebow has to be a receiving tight end,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We kind of shocked by the outrage over the signing.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 2: I've been really shocked about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you surprised though the outrage?
Speaker 2: This is the world is getting really really, really really
Speaker 2: fucking soft and it's changing a lot. And the fact
Speaker 2: that like it's just wild, wild times Tebow went, did
Speaker 2: his TV did his thing. He's always been in the
Speaker 2: good graces. The guy's never said a bad word about
Speaker 2: anybody that I know of in general life. Ever. Guy's
Speaker 2: been stand up, stop playing ball, didn't get another opportunity,
Speaker 2: went and did his TV stuff, did a base job day,
Speaker 2: did the baseball thing. People were pissed at him because
Speaker 2: he was taking a roster spot there. Hey, newsflash, sometimes
Speaker 2: people get things that they may not be directly in
Speaker 2: line for but it happens. It's big business. Shit happens.
Speaker 2: Get over it.
Speaker 3: It's also networking too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, if anybody else other than Urban Meyer gets
Speaker 2: that job, t Bo's not there, he's not there. But
Speaker 2: it works that way. Hey, those guys win one, two
Speaker 2: national titles. They're still friends. This day. Before Erban got
Speaker 2: the job, I saw him in Scottsdale playing golf one day,
Speaker 2: and you know, you can tell just what kind of
Speaker 2: guy he's been the same guys from when I you know,
Speaker 2: knew Urban from my time in college and got to
Speaker 2: be around him a little bit. Like he's just loyal
Speaker 2: to his guys. I guarantee you a lot of people
Speaker 2: on that staff and Jacksonville are going to be former Gators,
Speaker 2: former Ohio State and and that's the same with any
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. Rabel where to go to a
Speaker 2: different spot right now, brings these guys with them every time,
Speaker 2: and every coach in the league does. Everybody's got their
Speaker 2: boys that come on and get another three year, four
Speaker 2: million dollar deal. That's guaranteed even if you're even your
Speaker 2: type of thing. So guys are loyal to their guys.
Speaker 2: It is what it is if you're a good bro.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Rabel secretary stretches everywhere, wheel goes. Yeah, no question, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Rabel just fuck?
Speaker 2: Is he the guy? The man?
Speaker 3: He fucks got to be the alpha in the room.
Speaker 2: Have you challenged that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't go well because.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work out in your way.
Speaker 3: He says like things that aren't funny. But then it's like, well,
Speaker 3: well maybe if you bought that guy on third down.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, dude, hey, listen talking about a sack
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: We had them on like I wasn't on the team.
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, he murdered Will and we're both we're
Speaker 1: both sitting here. I think when I say it was
Speaker 1: in July of nineteen, so I was just chilling of rage,
Speaker 1: just bodying me up, and there's like, will you gotta
Speaker 1: say something? I'm like, what do I fucking say? Because
Speaker 1: I know I was, like, I didn't play a whole
Speaker 1: lot for him, so he can body bag me even
Speaker 1: more if I want to come after tough to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your friends, you hit by a car over
Speaker 3: and over again.
Speaker 2: You're gonna last up over again.
Speaker 1: First he hit that poor bastard, and anytime Taylors are
Speaker 1: around each other, like when we are on the team together,
Speaker 1: like he's got his jokes in front of everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves bringing he loves this podcast. He loves
Speaker 3: bringing it up. He's one of the loves bringing it
Speaker 3: up in team meetings. And then he loves saying I
Speaker 3: don't give a shit about your podcast, but then why
Speaker 3: do you keep bringing it up?
Speaker 1: And yeah, we'd be late in the year and he'd
Speaker 1: be like, let's check on what are social media managers
Speaker 1: up to today and pull my ship up. You're sitting
Speaker 1: their asshole tight, like god, I hope the boys laugh.
Speaker 3: Were just talking about the kids, the victory they had
Speaker 3: to beat the Ravens.
Speaker 2: It seems like you guys have a good dynamic in
Speaker 2: the locker room though. It seems like dude fucking having
Speaker 2: a blast out there. And that's fun. That's fun to
Speaker 2: see from That's what afar. That's just me turning around
Speaker 2: the game on fucking Sundays and being that also helps
Speaker 2: when Derek Henry runs the ball like a fucking freight
Speaker 2: tri Yes bro.
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Two of the more miserable years
Speaker 3: of my life three and two and fourteen from recently
Speaker 3: and then, but like the locker room we got, like
Speaker 3: the dudes we have, you would love it you going
Speaker 3: there and knowing like I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 3: people care, but like not enough to like get on.
Speaker 3: You can be whoever you want there. Everyone's gonna accept you.
Speaker 1: Our locker room's dope, the broough Ship's nice.
Speaker 2: A lot of different characters in the UH. In the
Speaker 2: locker Room House, Tannehill been fitting in compared to like
Speaker 2: Mariota and the guys.
Speaker 3: He owned that thing as soon as he was starting.
Speaker 3: I remember, I don't remember who his first start was.
Speaker 3: It was after the Broncos game. I remember who we
Speaker 3: played after that, but I remember walking in. Him and
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith are sitting at a table by themselves, and
Speaker 3: I walked by him and Tannehill's like, I don't want
Speaker 3: this play. Take this out, I want this change this
Speaker 3: to a like he's like telling Arthur what he's like,
Speaker 3: what he likes and doesn't like. And for me, I'm like,
Speaker 3: that fires me up up because I know when you're
Speaker 3: calling that play, the OC knows that he likes it.
Speaker 3: He knows he likes it. He knows where the ball
Speaker 3: is going. Relative, and so he's been awesome.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: The guy is the guy's top notch. I'm a huge
Speaker 3: fan of his.
Speaker 2: I think had to be happy to see Marriotta ball
Speaker 2: a little bit last year.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we both committed to Oregon at the exact same time.
Speaker 2: We were in the same camp together and then kept
Speaker 2: in touch over the years, and he really is a legend,
Speaker 2: top notch. Classy fucking dude.
Speaker 3: Classy dude. He's another one of those guys like doesn't
Speaker 3: say a bad thing about anybody, works super hard, got
Speaker 3: a got a bad deal with the Titans.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be successful. I just it
Speaker 3: was just tough here for whatever reason. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he got in his own head or I think
Speaker 3: he had a lot of success here that he's had
Speaker 3: memorable games coming back against Kansas City playoff win, Like,
Speaker 3: he's going to have things that Titans fans remembers him forever.
Speaker 3: But I think two maybe next year, two three years
Speaker 3: from now, he's going to be a starting quarterback. He's
Speaker 3: gonna be a stunt.
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean he's probably in that time, will
Speaker 2: probably be around the age we are right now. Maybe
Speaker 2: thirty years old, he's got five six, seven, eight years
Speaker 2: a good football left. I've always been a big fan
Speaker 2: of him. The guy. The guy can really fucking move,
Speaker 2: He's make good money. He's a great fucking dude. I've
Speaker 2: loved the time I've got to be around him. So,
Speaker 2: you guys had a bunch of different ocs over.
Speaker 1: The first couple of years when he was here, hit
Speaker 1: a different whatever year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's that's the hardest thing that a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't know about the NFL. Being a young
Speaker 2: guy and him coming from Oregon this and this just
Speaker 2: happens with spread offenses. Coming from college to what we
Speaker 2: do in the NFL. You don't do a ton of
Speaker 2: stuff with protections or you know, you get to the league,
Speaker 2: I need to know exactly why you're squeezing down and
Speaker 2: this guy comes free, or if you're going to kick
Speaker 2: out to it and this guy's gonna come and hit
Speaker 2: me in my childs. There's just the level of football
Speaker 2: knowledge you have to have is just something you don't
Speaker 2: necessarily get from a Reid option spread kind of offense.
Speaker 2: And if you get a young guy and you're changing
Speaker 2: offensive coordinators, you know, every single year learning new verbiage
Speaker 2: and terminology. It's it's historically tough on any young guy
Speaker 2: who comes from that situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why Tannehill's had so much success
Speaker 3: here is did He just seems like he's got he knows.
Speaker 2: You guys are running here. Tannehill was running the first
Speaker 2: day when I got to Texas A and M really
Speaker 2: so well Coach Sherman. Mike Sherman was our head coach,
Speaker 2: and we were running red Jet two and three jet
Speaker 2: same play pass to hold the exact same he is gangster.
Speaker 2: And then when he got drafted, he went to Miami
Speaker 2: and his offensive coordinator was Mike Sherman. He has been
Speaker 2: in the exact same system pretty much for almost his
Speaker 2: entire time, and and he was really really good at
Speaker 2: it when we were at A and M and I
Speaker 2: was sucking my thumb in the back of a fucking
Speaker 2: meeting room. And I'm sure he's only gotten better now
Speaker 2: because so he's a smart dude.
Speaker 3: He gets the thing out too. As an offensive lineman,
Speaker 3: you get that ball out, that's love. Has been a
Speaker 3: couple of times like, hey, I appreciate you. You're whiff
Speaker 3: a little bit. Some dudes and Miles Garrett coming around
Speaker 3: the corner or something like that. Danny. He takes a shot,
Speaker 3: but there's no sack. Statute looks good on my stilist
Speaker 3: jogged down next. Yeah, I think that's what I appreciate
Speaker 3: you guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2: For having a song. You know, we didn't want to
Speaker 2: come in here, and I was bombard the thing with
Speaker 2: chug buds and our own podcast type of talking about.
Speaker 2: I figured, uh, I have a couple of beers a day,
Speaker 2: come on the bus and hang with the boys and
Speaker 2: then have a good little chat. This is how it
Speaker 2: should be. Boys. Have you had what I've already been
Speaker 2: in the Broadway? I rode a scooter back to where
Speaker 2: we went and got those vodka o j the other
Speaker 2: day and got that same meal again. It was fucking badass.
Speaker 2: Really Pinewood social that's socialized city right there. He's taking
Speaker 2: e I totally Uh. I took a bird scooter from
Speaker 2: the Virgin Hotel. Wrote it through Downtown's cruising all morning.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Was your spot in Broadway right now? Where's you?
Speaker 2: Number one? F g L. I liked the stage, Hey,
Speaker 2: the stage They just kind of kicked back and laid
Speaker 2: back for me. Every time we've gone in there, we've
Speaker 2: had a blast. Everywhere else it's kind of been a
Speaker 2: little over the top.
Speaker 3: Was that where Mike spot is. It's it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's top where it's at. I know, I think I
Speaker 3: know exactly what. Yeah, it's I think me and Derek,
Speaker 3: you know that, like Kroger Health thing. Me and Derek
Speaker 3: did a photo shoot for I think he's.
Speaker 2: In Taco Bell cant Know where you can get a
Speaker 2: Baja blast margarita? All about talking about you know, that
Speaker 2: was real life. The guys sitting there playing his guitar, like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what's up Taco Bell, Ye, make your way, get a
Speaker 2: taco and the margarita. I love it. Taco Bell Canteen.
Speaker 2: I highly recommended Taco Bell Canteen.
Speaker 3: The stage rips there, I don't but they played like
Speaker 3: blink on a two and like hit them like old
Speaker 3: all turned to punks. Dude, I love their music.
Speaker 2: I think I think we've touched soil just about every
Speaker 2: bar on Broadway. We want. We wanted a good run,
Speaker 2: we wanted the dark.
Speaker 1: I try and keep up, dude. I'm like Mike's out
Speaker 1: of gain, He's at another Just be a good one.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm done. I gonna think I'm retiring off
Speaker 2: and for a while.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I got I gotta finish some music here
Speaker 4: and then where are you going next?
Speaker 1: Austin.
Speaker 2: We're gonna spawn, like Travis Nice.
Speaker 1: That's what we just wear. Man.
Speaker 4: Really, you're just after the batger Bartie, you do that?
Speaker 4: Did you guys get after it or what?
Speaker 1: Oh we got after it? We got We had a
Speaker 1: good time. My brother he sitting back there, there's about
Speaker 1: there's about eight of us, but yeah, it was. My
Speaker 1: voice was completely gone on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Smoky tone.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that again.
Speaker 1: Boy, my boy, Kenny Farkus, like this really like the
Speaker 1: eye of the storm, dude, Like it just starts going
Speaker 1: off because we we went out in downtown Austin for
Speaker 1: the first half of the day and then we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go recharge for a few hours. Then
Speaker 1: we'll come back out of night with rainy street sixth Street,
Speaker 1: and uh, this storm just starts beating our ass. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I mean you see the trees blowing sideways,
Speaker 1: all the patio furniture is lost, like it's gone. Uh
Speaker 1: that house starts low key flooding a little bit, like
Speaker 1: the fan is on, the fan is on inside, and
Speaker 1: water slinging around like it was the dock, the deck
Speaker 1: to the boat, the dock, the big ass cable snaps
Speaker 1: and it floats like twenty yards down the water. Bro,
Speaker 1: it was fucking insane. It's a bit of a.
Speaker 3: Deal out there.
Speaker 2: It's a good old Texas storm.
Speaker 3: He's just and in the middle of that too.
Speaker 1: It was hailing. That's why he's like covering his face
Speaker 1: right now because it's fucking hailing.
Speaker 3: He's it's a psychopath with Bro.
Speaker 1: He's going through.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, yeah, but I love that, appreciate that there
Speaker 2: be fun. But yeah, Man, Nashville definitely is. It's up there.
Speaker 2: I like the place a lot.
Speaker 4: There's something there's something to be said about the vibe
Speaker 4: that like the you know, I've been lived in New
Speaker 4: York and other places. You know, a lot of this
Speaker 4: is obviously a lot smaller than in New York City,
Speaker 4: but that feeling right where I'm at right now is like,
Speaker 4: you know, just walk out, like I come down.
Speaker 2: The elevators just you're in the trenches. People are going nuts.
Speaker 1: You know, you're trenches.
Speaker 4: It's it's like a celebratory place. You know, people are
Speaker 4: coming here for bachelor parties, bachelor rep party's, birthday parties.
Speaker 2: There's just feeling.
Speaker 3: There's always a concert, there's always a game, there's always
Speaker 3: something going on.
Speaker 2: Feeling in the air that's like more positive leaning. I
Speaker 2: just like that, you know, I'm like a and going
Speaker 2: into like a random city or a place that haven't
Speaker 2: been a ton of just getting a media just boost
Speaker 2: of energy and a vibe where you're like, just want
Speaker 2: to go out and fucking have a blast.
Speaker 3: You guys are boosting Nashville. Did I like that?
Speaker 2: No doubt?
Speaker 3: That's the fucks.
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