WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: The Dame Game 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to this league uncut in the world. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.960 Of twenty four hour NBA news. This's you, Lou. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.800 Chris Haynes. It's so time, Park's time. It's so time. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:21.799 This League uncut is underway and on fire. This should 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.160 be a good one. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:31.080 Friends, Welcome in hearty greetings from this league uncut. Half 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.040 of the squad is in Vegas already. Chris Haynes made 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.120 it there today. I will be arriving in a couple 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.280 of days. I have to I got some Saturday radio 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.239 obligations in Dallas first before I make my way to 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.280 the desert. But look, the Summer League action already underway 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.920 this week with a slew of games in Sacramento. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.800 And also Salt Lake City. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.160 That was just the appetizer, all thirty teams in Vegas 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:07.240 for the annual Summer League extravaganza that just gets larger 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:12.080 and larger and larger every year. Most of free agency 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.800 is done at this point. Yes, there are a few 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:20.320 stray names out there still. On the unrestricted side, You've 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.480 got a Kelly Ubray, a Christian Wood. On the restricted 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:29.200 free agent side, we still have PJ. Washington situation to 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.880 figure out, So there are still some names on the board, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.560 and that's certainly not a comprehensive list. I'm sure we 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.679 could talk more about that if we wanted to go 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.560 in that direction. But let's face it, the whole league 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:47.119 right now, the focus even beyond James Harden's future in Philadelphia, 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.400 it's all about Damian Lillard and what the Trailblazers are. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.040 Going to do. This thing is moving slower. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:59.120 I'm sure then Damian Lillard would like it too, But 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.680 you know, this is a complex trade that's probably not 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.760 gonna happen in an instant. I think everybody knows at 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.919 this point that Miami is where game wants to end up. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:16.200 The Blazers are naturally dropping hints and whispers that know 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.520 they're gonna look around and do what's best for the 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:24.880 franchise and not just gift wrap him to Miami. You know, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.160 my instinct just is a long time watcher of these things. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.840 It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where a 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.919 game doesn't end up with what he wants in the end. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.200 But let's see lots of twists and turns. Chris and 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:42.120 I recording this on Thursday night, and just within the 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.639 last half hour before we finally connected to do this. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:51.600 Damian Lillard tweeted, I'm amazed, which I think I can 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.480 assume that's his reaction to all the chatter today, all 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:01.160 the back and forth, a lot of there's a lot 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.240 of angst everywhere, honestly, all over the league. Not surprising. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.320 But I turn it now to Chris Haynes again. Fresh 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.160 on the ground in Vegas are resident Damologists, the world's 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.359 leading Dameologists. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.120 Where where are we? 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:15.359 Man? 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.040 Where are we? 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.519 With Dame and his desire to be sent to Miami 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.720 and the Blazers desire to drag this thing out and 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.680 try to broaden the field of trade options, what do 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:26.120 you see? 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.160 Well, to answer you a question about where are we, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.960 We're nowhere. That's just where. That's what That's where it 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.200 is right now. We're nowhere. And honestly, this is what 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:42.160 I really expected to happen. I know, I know Dame 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.480 would probably like to have this thing done wrapped up 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.600 pretty quickly, but I've always felt if he was going 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.600 to go down this road that it might be an 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.200 extended period. The Miami heat right now, you know there 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.680 they want to get to the table with the Blazers asap. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.440 I know, the Miami Heat and the Blazers have had discussions, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.320 but it hasn't been anything to my knowledge, it hasn't 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:12.280 been anything substantial or or should I say, the talks 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.279 haven't gotten to a serious point as far as the 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.719 Blazers have are concerned. And so for this, for for 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.560 Damian Lillard, his agent Aaron good good When, I know 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.719 they they want to speed this thing up. But spoke 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.120 with Aaron good When today and you know he's hopeful 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.760 he's gonna be in Vegas in a few days, but 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:34.839 he's hopeful that the Blazers in the Miami in the 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.960 Miami Heat can't get together and sit down in the 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.080 room and talk talk this thing, talk this thing through. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.760 And you know, it was apparent even from day one 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:50.440 that a deal between strictly the Blazers and the Miami 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.040 Heat that was not going to get it done. It's 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.640 going to require a third and most likely probably even 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.760 a fourth team to get this all squared away where 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.760 it everybody feels like they got equal value or somewhat 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.480 equal value in return. So that's the way things are 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.080 right now. You talk about Dame and that tweet, Mark Stein, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.839 I haven't spoken to Dame today. I can say that 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:18.919 The last time I spoke with Dame was maybe yesterday, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.600 so I haven't spoken to him today, so I can't. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:26.000 I can't, I don't. I can't say that I know 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.680 for sure what he's referring to when he say he's amazed. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:35.039 And then somebody asked him why. I think his response was, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.240 let me make sure I got here. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:37.040 I have it right here. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.880 I'm amazed was the first tweet, and then he got 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.760 a question from Twitter from seven to fifty the game, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.000 which I believe is is that a Portland radio. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.040 Station or is that that's that's Portland? Yes? 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:50.080 Why? 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.240 And Dame's answer was his quote tweet was at how 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.719 people could know so much and so little at the 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.880 same time. And obviously there is tons of chatter out 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.000 there today, and you know people are naturally Aaron Goodwin, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.680 his agent, is doing exactly what any agent would do. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.159 This is I mean, this is it's he's not doing anything. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:12.919 He wouldn't he. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.599 Would stein he wouldn't be doing his job if he 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.560 wasn't calling teams. It's telling them Dame would not like, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:22.600 would not like to be there. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.640 And also I think teams know, you know, Dame is 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.160 such a pro that there is that feeling out there 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.920 that teams would be like, he's not going to come 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.279 here and cause trouble because I mean, Dame is a hooper. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.080 But still that doesn't I think I think the majority 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.479 of teams, the overwhelming majority of teams, I think they 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.279 believe that that had if they traded for Dame, that 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.880 he wouldn't go there and be a guy who stages 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.880 a holdout or something. But that doesn't mean that teams 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.120 out there are going to be sufficiently emboldened to actually 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.479 trade for you know, someone like Danny Ainge in Utah. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.039 I put nothing past Danny Ainge. Would Danny Ainge do it? No? 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.720 I mean, you know, he just traded Donovan Mitchell to 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.960 Cleveland when we all thought Donovan Mitchell was going to 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.520 New York. But even Danny Ainge has limits, and I 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.480 think the Jazz have to say to themselves it's not 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.520 a matter of Danny Ainge or Jazz management being afraid 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.120 of trading for Dame. The real question is does Damian 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.480 Lillard fit timeline wise with such a young team? Is 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.920 that who a team like Utah would want to go 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.800 all in on with the various chips David Mass But 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.240 like I said, I, you know, I am not reporting 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.240 this from as close advantage point as you, but it 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.880 is just hard for me to believe. I just think Dame, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.760 his stature in Portland, what he's delivered to the Blazers. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.960 I just kind of feel like the Lillard Goodwin combination 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.920 is gonna is gonna find a way in the end. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.480 Might take some time, but I think they're gonna get 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:00.920 to the finish line of where they want. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.320 And again, I think we talked about this in our 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.560 last episode, Steyn about somebody like Danny Ings taking that 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.560 chance and trading for him. Like nobody would knock Danny 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.000 Aing's for doing that. Nobody would knock Massi. You Massi 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.400 in Toronto for uh making that trade for Kawhi. For 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.840 Dame situation, it's a little bit different. He's played eleven 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.120 years there, He's represented that town, that city, that organization 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.720 like no other star player has done before. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.880 Can't even compare. And he's given. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.440 Them every opportunity to try to build the Toddle he 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.120 wanted to do it there. So for him, it's a 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.280 little bit it's a little bit different of a scenario 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:50.080 for him compared to other players. So the onus so 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.199 people would look at the Blazers for actually trading him 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.559 to a place that he didn't want to go. Nobody 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.240 would not the other team you have to look about, like, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.200 how are they treating their star player, their franchise player 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.600 ar could be the greatest player in franchise history. After 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.920 eleven years, he finally decides, you know, he wants to leave, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:16.160 and he wants to go to Miami, And how would 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.440 it look for the like teams, players, excuse me, players 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.960 are watching to see how this goes down, to see 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.160 if this is how you're gonna treat a star player. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.160 You trade them to a team that he doesn't want 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.960 to go to. And look, I see, I see Blazer 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.040 fans and and you know, I don't know, and like 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.520 I said, I don't want to assume what Dame is 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.600 talking about. But you know, I've seen Blazer fans say, hey, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.720 we got to trade him to wherever he wants to 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.679 go because Dame signed an extension. Dame signed a contract. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.199 You know, you see national reporters talking about how he 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.240 signed an extension and and that's that's on him. He 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.360 shouldn't request the trade, but look at it. Check this out. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:04.199 Starn I recall other players signing long term extensions requesting 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.959 the trade the very following summer. I don't even have 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.160 to name names. You can look it up. And nobody 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:17.160 said a word. The star player was just traded. Just 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:17.840 trade it. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:25.640 A year before signing an extension, trade it the very 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.640 next day, and nobody said a word. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:29.480 Period. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.280 So why all of a sudden is this any different? 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.480 And a difference that I would say in this situation 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:43.640 is Dame signed that extension with the promise that the 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.800 team was going to assemble a roster that can compete 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.080 for a championship. He didn't sign an extension just to 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.400 sign an extension, say I want to be here five years. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.800 He was told they're going to do everything they can 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.600 in that timeframe to give him the team that he needs. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.480 It didn't happen. It did not happen. So you know, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.719 for those talking about, you know he signed extension, now 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.680 we can you know, we can trade them wherever he 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:12.200 wants to go. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.040 He has no right he has. Come on, come on, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.000 let's stop that. Let's stop that. The guy gaves a level. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.160 I mean, I guess this is what you know. I 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.360 do differ with you on some of this. You know, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.320 I do understand the criticism. You know, you mentioned it, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:30.040 and it's been very loud. There there is that drum 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.600 beat that says, if Dame wanted to pick his team, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.480 don't do a long term extension. But I think the 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.280 rub here is and what we need to maybe dig 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.520 into more what kind of conversations were had at the 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:49.200 time this extension was signed. Was there any sort of 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.280 promise that, hey, if we cannot get this thing moving 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.720 in the direction that we hope it goes, would we 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.200 then work to get you where you want to go 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.920 because of everything you've done for the franchise and the community, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.079 and you know, there's no question I think I think 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.520 games commitment to the Blazers doesn't really need a lot 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.080 of a lot of elaboration. How popular he is. There 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:25.080 a an absolutely beloved player. But look that that conversation 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.600 is out there and there there there are gonna be 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.839 There are going to be observers and fans who say 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.800 the Blazers should just do whatever the heck they want. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.440 They gave him, they committed all this money, and they 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.440 should do what they what they think is best. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:42.319 But again, to me, this. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.720 Stint and that is fine. That rhetoric. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:52.680 That narrative is fine, but just note this is not 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.120 some scrub player. This is not an average player. This 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.680 is your franchise player, arguably the greatest player in French history, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:06.560 who people, even fans were clamoring to request the trade 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.280 four years ago, probably even further. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.439 Back than that. He gave it as all. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.800 And so now it's to a point where he's asking 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.600 to be moved now and he has a specific team. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.720 So players are watching. That's all you got, That's all 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.400 I'm saying. Players are watching to see how this thing 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.680 is handled. I understand it's a business, but this is different. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.320 This is different, and that's why. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.319 I do think again, I do think in the end, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.040 this is the way it's going to end up, that 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.360 he is somehow going to land with the team he 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.440 wants to play for because of all that, because of 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.040 the history and everything he's given to them. But the 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.960 reality is the noise is off the charts right now. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:57.360 And look because this thing is moving slower than everybody 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.760 wants it to. You know, the trade is requested in 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.840 that and it's like everybody fans us in the media, NBA, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.080 you know, every aspect of the NBA machine everybody, well, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.600 why dosn't the trade happen yet, it's been five six days. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.640 Well it's you know, I think we do have to 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.640 bear in mind that sometimes these things do take a 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.600 long time to come together. And it's interesting that you 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.880 brought up the Toronto situation because at the time, I remember, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.920 people looked at the Raptors like they were crazy, You're 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.840 training for Kawhi Leonard when he probably doesn't want to 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.000 be in Toronto and he's heading to free agency. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.240 But because Kawhi. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.520 Leonard was entering the last year of his deal, it 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.560 kept the price down. So what the Raptors had to 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.240 risk to do that was a lot. I mean, it 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.240 was still substantial in their eyes to lose DeRozan, who 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.920 you know, is a Raptors legend, and Yaka pertl who 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.040 his value has only grown as a center in this league. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.360 You know, the Raptors were touting him as a top 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.440 ten center in this league when they just gave him, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.240 you know, when they traded for him in February. And 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.200 of course they just now resigned him to a new 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.880 deal that averages twenty the annual salaries in the twenty 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:14.120 million range. But that's all Toronto had to give up. Really, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.400 I think there was also a pick in there, but 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.720 you know, the price for Kawhi with only one year 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.640 left on his contract, that drove the price down, Whereas 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.080 this is Dame with years left on his contract. The 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.280 Blazers are going to be looking for an absolute haul 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.720 in return when they finally do agree to a trade 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.880 for Damian Lillard. This is not going to be a 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.640 Wizard's Bradley Beal situation, where because Bradley Beal had a 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.240 no trade clause, the Wizards just basically had to accept 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.360 whatever deal they could get and you didn't even get 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.040 a first round pick for Bradley Beal. The Blazers probably 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.560 ain't getting go bear prices. I don't think they're going 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.400 to get five first but you know they're going to 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:58.040 be going for it. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.200 They're going to be going. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.760 For the most substantial return that they can come up with. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.440 So that's why they should. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:10.400 It'stine and they should. They should, they should. I think 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.840 at the end of the day, hopefully both sides get 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.960 what they want, and you know, that's what they should. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.280 I don't really have I'm trying to think. What I'm 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.320 trying to think? Do I really have a problem what's 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.920 going on as far as the noise and circulating within 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.200 the media, not the fans. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:27.160 I don't, I don't. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.200 I don't care because a lot of it's posturing and 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.480 all that stuff. At the end of the day, if 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.240 they're able to get something done where Miami gets Dame 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.240 and Portland gets from from wherever it's coming from, whether 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:43.560 it's a few from Miami, uh, some from Brooklyn and 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:48.480 another team possibly Detroit, if they feel like they get adequate, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.600 you know, semi adequate value going that route, then go ahead. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.240 That's fine. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.200 But they have every right to try to get as 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.240 much as they can out of this, and that's I 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.320 have no problem with that. I just think that again, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.560 those teams they want to take that chance, go ahead. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.080 But nobody is going to knock. Players aren't going to 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.240 look at They're not gonna look at Danny Ain's wrong 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.280 or any other team wrong or in a bad light 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.760 because they traded for Dame. They're gonna look at Portland. Portland, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.840 the spotlight is on them. Is this the way you're 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.000 going to treat your franchise player who's done everything in 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:33.200 his power for eleven years? And Stein another thing is 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.040 real cool Dame is in a as you see, Dame 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.680 is not somebody that that stays quiet. He'll stay quiet 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.400 for a little bit, but he's always going to weigh 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.399 in say something, whether it's tweeting or going live. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.400 So he's in the unique situations. And I did some research. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:53.880 I did some digging. So with the Portland Trailblazers releasing 0:17:53.920 --> 0:18:00.080 that statement last week basically saying we're basically confirming, I 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.399 should say that Damian Lillarle did request a trade, and 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.880 we talked about this before. I've never I've never recalled 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:11.840 a team doing that, saying a player requested a trade, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.560 and that's never been done before. And I talked to 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.200 the league, it's never been done before. It's unprecedented. Talked 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.200 to the player Association, They've never seen it. Never, never, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:25.600 It's never happened before. If a player had publicly. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.800 Mentioned a you know, mentioned that they wanted to be 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.840 traded before one hundred thousand dollars fine. So what I 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:38.439 found out is that a team can publicly announce that 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:43.760 a player has requested a trade. Why because it's never 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.720 been negotiated into the CBA that they cannot. It's only 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:52.800 been that way for players and until now it's been 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.000 one hundred thousand dollars fine for a player if he 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.760 requested a trade publicly. Meanwhile, a team can. And the 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.240 reason why a team can because it was negotiated to 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.439 the CBA and it's never happened before. So this is unique. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.640 But I say all this to say one more point. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.320 I want to add. In the new CBA now, a 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.679 player that publicly requests the trade, it has gone up 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.000 to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars five. It was 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.720 one hundred thousand dollars five before. Now it's one hundred 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.680 and fifty thousand dollars five. But with the Blazers putting 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.240 out that statement announcing that Dame requested the trade behind 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.960 the scenes, Dame is allowed to talk about it. Now 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.560 Dame is allowed to say what he wants on the trade. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.160 I don't know if that wy help the trade situation. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:47.639 Help Yeah, because he will talk about it. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.320 Yeah, but he lobs in a couple of tweets and 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.879 everybody loses their mind again. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.399 Yeah, So he will be able to talk about it 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.600 if he wanted to, and without being penalized. That would 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.800 be a first, a first that a player will be 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.680 able to talk about a trade request during like right 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.840 in the middle of it, without being penalized. The Blazers 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.359 gave him the green light. They gave him a go 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.159 free card to do it. I don't think he should. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.399 I don't know that he will. But as you see, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.840 like if this thing continues to go on and then 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:31.200 stuff just get keep getting leaked into the media, especially 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:36.040 when it's shining a false light on Dame. He's the 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.240 type of guy that might jump out there and say 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.639 something and he'll and he'll will there will be no punishment. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.080 I just wanted to say that, Well. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.360 Look, it's clearly a massive moment for the Blazers because 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:53.920 they you know, you don't see a Dame Lillard every 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:58.480 day anywhere. He's obviously, you know, free agency is not 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:04.160 really an option for them to replace him. Where they 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.240 are fortunate is that they've drafted well here in recent times. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:13.080 So they do have Scoot Henderson as the heir apparent. 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.240 They've got Shade and Sharp, They've got Anthony Simon's whether 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.920 they want to keep him or move him for more 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.040 roster balance, so they already have some very good young 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:24.960 players no matter what happens with Dame. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.720 But you know, I can see. 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.960 From Portland's perspective that they would want to take their 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.080 time and try to drag this thing out to ensure 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.920 that they get the largest possible return because and this 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.600 is you, this is the story in the NBA. You know, 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.840 we're Summer League. You know we're we're doing this Thursday night. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.000 This will probably be out, you know, early Friday morning. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.360 But Friday night is the debut of Victor wen Minyama. 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.640 Summer League is going to take up the next ten 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.399 days or so. We got some things in the works 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.600 that we can't announce just yet, but we're hoping to 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.919 have some fun of our own on the strip in 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.880 Vegas here in coming days. But let's be honest, more 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.560 than James Harden's future, more than any NBA story you 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:14.760 want to name, yes, even more than this Victor webmin 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.080 Yama Britney Spears headline today that you couldn't have dreamed 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:19.919 up a day ago if you tried. 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.680 Nothing is more substantial in terms. 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.840 Of NBA storylines right now than Damian Lillard and his future. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.919 And something tells me we're gonna be talking about it 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.200 for the next several pods. I mean, unless I don't 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.520 know you know you said it. Aaron Goodwin kind of 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.639 gave you the vibe that he's hopeful that Miami and 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.920 Portland has some face to face discussion. When everybody's in Vegas, 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:46.960 I mean, do we think that could spark something and 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:48.960 make this go any faster? 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.040 I don't know, but it's always good when you get 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.320 in front of people. That's why I like coming to 0:22:55.400 --> 0:23:01.159 Vegas because for some oferly because everybody's here and you know, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.800 it's just something about doing business or not even business, 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:10.080 just congregating in person. It just does something. It further 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.920 accelerates things, or whether it's accelerating the relationship or accelerating 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:19.399 the business deal, so that possibly could happen. I don't know, 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.119 but stein remember KD requested the trade. 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:23.359 Who was it? 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:29.639 Last summer we went the whole summer, nothing happened. And 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:34.040 then later in the summer or head into the fall, 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.159 he said he's going to go into He's going to 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:37.720