Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast Oh everybody, Scott Patterson,
Speaker 1: I am all in. Podcasts freshened from Toronto, Canada. Yeah wait,
Speaker 1: how was that? Oh man? What a what a whirlwinds?
Speaker 1: Were you doing a double job because you impressed for
Speaker 1: the new show and you were doing sort of a con?
Speaker 1: Did the comic co? Did the Toronto Comic Con with
Speaker 1: fan Expo Canada, who are most excellent. By the way,
Speaker 1: there Sean Gunn was there and the booth next to me.
Speaker 1: We crushed it and I crashed Shawn Guns panel and
Speaker 1: it was hilarious. I wish the video were available. If
Speaker 1: anybody has the video of me crashing Shawn Guns panel,
Speaker 1: please bring it forward because it's it was. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. There was a ton of you.
Speaker 1: He crashed your kiss. You should have crashed your panel.
Speaker 1: He crashed my one. He crashed your kiss. That's why
Speaker 1: I did it. That was the whole point. Did you
Speaker 1: run out like this? Well, I ran in as if
Speaker 1: I was being chased by unknown assailants and I had
Speaker 1: to get away from That's actually really good. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's a good way to enter a room and when
Speaker 1: they realized it was me, it was just a vroorious
Speaker 1: joy and laughter. M oh but I played through the
Speaker 1: whole scene and collapsed on stage and oh my god. Wait,
Speaker 1: so did you do a panel too? I did a
Speaker 1: panel on Friday afternoon. Yes, and what happened? Somebody asked,
Speaker 1: is it like a moderator and they're mostly focused on
Speaker 1: Gilmore girls? Yeah? Uh yeah, yeah, but a lot of
Speaker 1: it could be it could be anything. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Yeah. We talked Sullivan's Crossing too,
Speaker 1: which debuted Sundays Gonna. I was gonna say, they must
Speaker 1: be so stoked that they get it and that you're
Speaker 1: reunited with Chad, Michael Murray, Chad the the Chad Master,
Speaker 1: mister old Spice himself. Where's the turtle neck? Better than
Speaker 1: anybody I've ever seen? I thought I could wear a
Speaker 1: turtle there. Wait, so did you get to see the
Speaker 1: episode of Soliving? I saw it Sunday night. I did
Speaker 1: the con Friday, Saturday Sunday, went to the new hotel
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, late afternoon, checked into the new you know
Speaker 1: the one that the network put me up in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because the con was no. They cut me off because
Speaker 1: I could see I've seen um Canadian press popping up
Speaker 1: with Oh yeah, that's what I did Monday. All day.
Speaker 1: We did like thirteen hits. It was fun. Oh. Bell
Speaker 1: Media has a PR team and a marketing team you
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe, and they we just did hit after hit
Speaker 1: after hit. Did some live shows, did the Maryland Dennis Show,
Speaker 1: did the did the Social I was it was like
Speaker 1: their version of the view. Oh okay, I was a
Speaker 1: guest host. I was the fifth chair for thirty minutes
Speaker 1: and we just had a blast. So is it on
Speaker 1: streaming in Canada or is it on like a network
Speaker 1: where it's one, No, it's on it's on CTV. Is
Speaker 1: that like NBC or something. Yeah. Yeah, that's the huge
Speaker 1: So they get one episode a week like like a
Speaker 1: regular like a TV show as opposed to everything. It
Speaker 1: is broadcast television. But they can see it also on
Speaker 1: CTV dot c A. They can get okay, CTV dot
Speaker 1: app app. I don't know what the heck it is.
Speaker 1: So did you like it? What did you think of that?
Speaker 1: Did I did you know? I was nervous because I'd
Speaker 1: seen a rough cut and I was I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, and then and then Roma, Roma Roth who
Speaker 1: you know created the show UM from the book from
Speaker 1: Robin Car The Great Car Um. You know, Roma created
Speaker 1: UH from Robin car books. Virgin River the number one, right,
Speaker 1: the number one streaming show in the world. So I
Speaker 1: guess you know what she's she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1: But she you know, she edited a lot of it.
Speaker 1: She did the music, she did this, she did that,
Speaker 1: she wrote. I mean, wearing so many hats. So I'm
Speaker 1: getting room service. They're coming to turn down service at
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. The things coming on. I'm sure. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to know these people. I'm sush I'm saying, show's coming on.
Speaker 1: They're looking at me. Oh, I was up way past
Speaker 1: my bedtime. I had to take a pillow, stay up,
Speaker 1: thanks Amy. And then room service came in. I'm watching
Speaker 1: the show. I'm eating my food. It's hooking me. Everything's
Speaker 1: hooking me, and so good. I know. Fifteen twenty minutes in,
Speaker 1: I started weeping. I still crying. It got me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really emotional. Very show. Is it funny
Speaker 1: also or more drama. It's a romantic drama. The rom
Speaker 1: drama they call it, but and no, it does have
Speaker 1: elements of humor here and there, but it really is
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of this is USI oh woh, whoa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to stop watching this a is Us because
Speaker 1: it was I had to kept taking advil. At the
Speaker 1: end of the night, I was like, I can't can't
Speaker 1: cry anymore crying. Yeah, that one just parenthood did that
Speaker 1: to me. But I made it through. Although the finale
Speaker 1: I was undone. But this is Us. It's just one day.
Speaker 1: I'll go back. But it was a lot. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: it was so great. I was in you know, it
Speaker 1: hooked me pretty quick and I just was going through
Speaker 1: it and I knew the story so and it impacted
Speaker 1: me in a pretty powerful way. But that and we
Speaker 1: don't know when we're gonna get it. You're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna get it, and you're gonna get it huge, and okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good thing. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good thing. I can't really say anything. I've been sworn
Speaker 1: to secrecy, but I think you guys, he actually is
Speaker 1: sworn to secrecy because sometimes there's secrets that we he
Speaker 1: lets us know, but we actually do we have no idea. No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't told my wife. She's she's she's
Speaker 1: ready to bring out the baseball back. I always wonder
Speaker 1: if people on the mask singer tell they're like their
Speaker 1: spouse or their partner or whatever. Sometimes I think they don't, right, No,
Speaker 1: it's if you weren't, if you were in the CIA,
Speaker 1: would you tell your partner? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: believe this? Guess what we're invading? We're invading PA. I've
Speaker 1: always wondered if, like you're married to a CIA agent,
Speaker 1: do you know that and you have to do? What
Speaker 1: have you watched Alias? No? Her boyfriend is literally killed
Speaker 1: because she tells him that she's in the CIA. That's
Speaker 1: a little confusing because she's in sort of like a
Speaker 1: rogue CI. It's not the real CIA, So I don't
Speaker 1: know if in the real CI. But like, no, you
Speaker 1: can help when you're out, So you just lie to
Speaker 1: your partner forever and say you work at a flower shop,
Speaker 1: you know, like meet the fuckers, Like anybody anybody see that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like how he's like in some kind of central intelligence agency.
Speaker 1: We're definitely going going on. But I just wonder nipples
Speaker 1: Craig can you milk mea? But I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: the con was was super great because there are a
Speaker 1: ton of Gilmore fans in that Toronto area. I mean
Speaker 1: it was just of lines, long lines and people being
Speaker 1: just great and pleasant and we know you love it too.
Speaker 1: Oh God again Grandma's was a lot of hugs, a
Speaker 1: lot of kisses, a lot of tears, a lot of
Speaker 1: babies coming up. Is there a question? They mostly ask you,
Speaker 1: like something that everybody asks you, M Yeah, is there gonna?
Speaker 1: Are there going to be more episodes? They want to
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, And I don't have an answer. I
Speaker 1: would like to know that too. I don't have an answer.
Speaker 1: I've already written about I've already written ten new episodes
Speaker 1: and it's all it's all about the wedding. I've submitted
Speaker 1: them to the studio and I'm a waiting word, waiting
Speaker 1: for eight years on the on the word. But should
Speaker 1: we get to our therapy session? So we wanted to
Speaker 1: like have one more episode where we break down like
Speaker 1: all of season four, and then we'll launch season five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I think that's cool. I'm ready because I
Speaker 1: have my most important question. Yeah, and I'm I think
Speaker 1: it's really a great idea because One eleven Productions and
Speaker 1: iHeart Radio are involved in this with Amy Sugarman, Daniel Romo,
Speaker 1: and I like, how you did that? Scott. It's like
Speaker 1: we forgot to do that twelve minutes ago. Is this
Speaker 1: a new break? We just started talking. I got to
Speaker 1: get the production company pop in there, you know, I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and intros it's like, hopefully they've no by now, but
Speaker 1: I'm ready because I would say my my first question
Speaker 1: that I really want to ask the therapist is why
Speaker 1: does she think Rory we talked about this a little bit,
Speaker 1: who has always had it together right, has has for
Speaker 1: the most part done the right thing, decided to go
Speaker 1: so sideways? Yeah, that's my main question. And why did
Speaker 1: she make the right call in saying no to jesss
Speaker 1: or should she have done something different there? I think
Speaker 1: she said that a good decision on her part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's Yeah, I think that she should
Speaker 1: have gone with Jess, not Dean. That's what I who
Speaker 1: I want to dig into it is like what and
Speaker 1: what's going on with Dean? Yeah? And what's in his brain?
Speaker 1: But we've had her on before because we have to
Speaker 1: get the fans engaged in that issue, because they're not
Speaker 1: terribly engaged at all, are they? Thank you? Let's bring
Speaker 1: her on. Yeah, she's great. She's a g fan, so
Speaker 1: she knows everything. No one, no one really listened to
Speaker 1: last week. We've had we've had um, we've had her
Speaker 1: on before, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh god, I'm oh
Speaker 1: it's Kim's fantastic. Let's bring her in. Hello, Kim, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Um. We had such a great time
Speaker 1: with the last time. We wanted to have you back
Speaker 1: on at this crucial juncture of our journey. Hey, you
Speaker 1: wanted to be a bud Gaster. Here you are. Um.
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of questions that fans either mailed
Speaker 1: in or phoned in and left on on my mailed
Speaker 1: in the post a letter to Scott. Here's another one.
Speaker 1: A couple were dropped off by a homing pigeon, so
Speaker 1: they wanted one of the top questions. And there's you know,
Speaker 1: we can only whittle it down to about ten h
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: all of those. So Laura from San Antonio wanted to
Speaker 1: know what was the appropriate way for Laura La to
Speaker 1: react when learning Rory and Dean slept together at the
Speaker 1: end of the season finale a season four. Who let's
Speaker 1: start out that one good question. It's a great question.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you guys were talking about it
Speaker 1: on the podcast on Monday, you hit you made a
Speaker 1: lot of really good points with it. Um, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna venture on how she did react. I'll
Speaker 1: say this first, how she did react. I thought she
Speaker 1: reacted probably about his best as one could do. Even
Speaker 1: the situation of walking in, um, walking into that scenario,
Speaker 1: it would have been interesting too. And I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: kind of looking at other options here. It would have
Speaker 1: been interesting, like if it hadn't been Dean coming out,
Speaker 1: what if it had been just coming out, would you know,
Speaker 1: would her reaction be a little bit different? But if
Speaker 1: you watch her in that scene, I love when you
Speaker 1: guys talk about faith acting. When you watch her in
Speaker 1: that scene, she's like, I don't know if she's pushing
Speaker 1: something down, yeah, or something's coming up. But that was terror.
Speaker 1: If you saw some of that there, she looked afraid yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: And it was that moment and I can only guess
Speaker 1: you know, I'm speculating here again, but I can only
Speaker 1: guess it's that moment where if anybody's ever had something
Speaker 1: like that, don't have to be that, but it maybe
Speaker 1: somebody that you know that acts so what you think
Speaker 1: is out of character, that you don't recognize me, and
Speaker 1: it's really really scary. So watching her um try to
Speaker 1: kind of refrain. I watched her kind of refrain. I
Speaker 1: watched terrorsts are kind of refrain from everything. And when
Speaker 1: you when you watch Dean, you know, first Rory comes
Speaker 1: out and she's you know, she's she's still on her
Speaker 1: oxytocin high from this right. And then she sees Rory
Speaker 1: come out and she looks a little like, oh hey
Speaker 1: what and then looking disheveled, and then her homesteen and
Speaker 1: just the shock, probably some terror in there. And then
Speaker 1: she doesn't even make eye contact with Dean. And then
Speaker 1: as she when she when Dean leaves and they start talking,
Speaker 1: m I think she's kind of at a loss for words,
Speaker 1: and watching Rory move into friend zone with her, watching
Speaker 1: Rory moving into friends zone, and I know that I'm
Speaker 1: kind of going on on this question, but no earlier,
Speaker 1: earlier in the episode, and that one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Rory lore last scenes when she's at the diner and
Speaker 1: having her check out. Luke acting different. Really, that's how
Speaker 1: they talk. We're used to that. Their their way of
Speaker 1: communicating like that, but really, isn't that more of a
Speaker 1: best friend conversation? Yeah, your daughter kind of in her daughter, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and her daughters even kind of being very discerning, like you, Luke,
Speaker 1: this is Luke. You. You can't just get with Luke
Speaker 1: and then if something happens, everything's gonna be fine. It's
Speaker 1: gonna affect us, it's gonna affect the town. Really discerting
Speaker 1: in that moment, And so I just thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting when they go back, when Laurela has to be
Speaker 1: pulled into a role that she doesn't have to do
Speaker 1: very often, being a mom. Right, it's it was jarring
Speaker 1: when she when she goes from best friend to mom.
Speaker 1: It is a little jarring, which is why I reacted
Speaker 1: the way I did. But anyway, continue this is yeah,
Speaker 1: so true because she was so yeah, Rory was so
Speaker 1: nonchalant about it. Oh we're fine, you know, sorry I
Speaker 1: didn't tell you. Did you think she was like a
Speaker 1: little bit sheepish? Amy when at first, like, you know,
Speaker 1: aren't you happy it's with somebody? That loves me very
Speaker 1: like that conversation I think should have happened with Lane
Speaker 1: over Laura Lee would have been would have been a
Speaker 1: little probably more appropriate what what we would think. And
Speaker 1: then you watch Laura Lie she can't help, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think we've established at this point in the show,
Speaker 1: Laura Lae that is her person, that is her most
Speaker 1: important person in the world, that is everything, that's that's
Speaker 1: she revolves around her. So she's gonna care. She doesn't
Speaker 1: want this for her daughter, for sure, even though Rory's
Speaker 1: kind of in kind of a postcoital fantasy place again
Speaker 1: with her own oxytocin high but um, she doesn't want
Speaker 1: the situation because it's not that it's Dean necessarily, it's
Speaker 1: where Dean is now. So you can watch her kind
Speaker 1: of you can watch her kind of move in and
Speaker 1: out of parents like am I gonna move in? Am
Speaker 1: I gonna move out? Um, and being very concerned about,
Speaker 1: you know, Rory's reaction if I'm Lorilae for a minute,
Speaker 1: Rory's reaction towards me because I want, I want to
Speaker 1: say something here and I don't want her to reject me.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was pretty tamped down considering what
Speaker 1: it could be. And I also know the things that
Speaker 1: she said that I knew was going to send Rory
Speaker 1: into a defense place right when she went into mother mode.
Speaker 1: And Scott, you had made the comment about what about tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you know what if they did that tomorrow? There is
Speaker 1: there is some truth in that. There's even some training
Speaker 1: when you know, parents learn how they're to kind of
Speaker 1: manage their own neurobiology so that they're responsive and not reactive,
Speaker 1: and and even and I don't know, is this still
Speaker 1: a thing? Amy, do you remember this where they had
Speaker 1: the contract if you were drinking, you signed the contract
Speaker 1: with your parent and your parent will pick you up.
Speaker 1: We're not going to talk about it till tomorrow. Buelerheads prevail.
Speaker 1: So there is something too that. And I think that
Speaker 1: she still did probably about its best of a job
Speaker 1: as she could given this shock of that. UM, I
Speaker 1: think she did try to reel it in. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if there weren't some Emily and Richard
Speaker 1: Gilmore comments that she's holding back and also this this
Speaker 1: this piece too of just the human aspect of this.
Speaker 1: She says a couple of things that when she when
Speaker 1: she says to Rory that she's, you know, again, trying
Speaker 1: to shock Rory back into reality. Who is this girl
Speaker 1: right now? And they're shaming And we do that sometimes
Speaker 1: when someone's does something that we're so shocked by, we
Speaker 1: want to shame them back into you know, what's appropriate.
Speaker 1: And that's a really good point, Scott. I think that
Speaker 1: that you. I think you reacted to that too. That
Speaker 1: you didn't there was some of that which you could
Speaker 1: understand but probably could have been done better. Shaming her
Speaker 1: was not the move. The longer I live, the more
Speaker 1: I the more harm I see people absorbed with shaming.
Speaker 1: And it's a real harm, and it's a long term harm.
Speaker 1: And it's nothing, you know, it's it's nothing than anybody
Speaker 1: should take lightly. And uh, that's that's why I said
Speaker 1: what I said. I almost more, I'm far more sensitive
Speaker 1: sensitive to it now. I almost could hear Lorelai saying
Speaker 1: you should be ashamed of yourself. She didn't say it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I'd have been a part of it.
Speaker 1: It's like I almost am hearing that. Why do I
Speaker 1: feel like she did say that? Did she not knowed
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah? Yeah, we picked it up though. I
Speaker 1: think you guys are all saying, is we kind of
Speaker 1: we kind of picked it up. I did pick it up.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Kim, Like, let's just
Speaker 1: say you're doing like a session with Lorelei Murray. They
Speaker 1: just came to you one day and they're like, we're
Speaker 1: having other daughter relationship issues and they brought up this
Speaker 1: this night, Like how would you help them navigate that? Well,
Speaker 1: now you're now you're kind of stepping into like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't do couples anymore. But what we what we
Speaker 1: do have to do in those kind of situations is
Speaker 1: trying to make it safe so that the one, you know,
Speaker 1: one party can speak their feelings free of the interjecting
Speaker 1: of the other ones. Because really, you know, you're they're
Speaker 1: trying to resolve an issue. You know, like they're gonna
Speaker 1: want They're not gonna be coming in if they don't
Speaker 1: want to resolve it. And truthfully, if Laura Lai can't
Speaker 1: calm down enough here where Rory's coming from, she's not
Speaker 1: gonna get anything from Rory or he's gonna stay in protective,
Speaker 1: defensive mode. This is just how we are. You know,
Speaker 1: we're we're If I feel ashamed, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot out of me because I'm gonna have expect myself. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it can be. It can be a useful thing
Speaker 1: and compliancy, but it's not useful in terms of making
Speaker 1: connections with people. It's I'm so curious what everyone in
Speaker 1: this group would have thought would have happened. If it
Speaker 1: was Jess that came out, I'd be thrilled. But I thought, like,
Speaker 1: absolutely thrilled. Like it was Jess, Yeah, Dean was single,
Speaker 1: I would be thrilled, Like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not the fact that they had that she had
Speaker 1: sex with Dean, it's the fact that she had sex
Speaker 1: with Dean who is married. Yeah. And I think I
Speaker 1: think that Lorala actually would have done what Scott said,
Speaker 1: being like, oh my gosh, and let's talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the party, because it would have
Speaker 1: not been It would have been something they're gonna eat
Speaker 1: their popcorn and talk about tomorrow. Good and bad. There
Speaker 1: would be some bad, yeah, but it wouldn't have been dramatic.
Speaker 1: And even if it was, if Dean wasn't married, it
Speaker 1: would have If it was Dean and he just wasn't married,
Speaker 1: it would have been a completely different conversation. But you
Speaker 1: know how many time times in our lives just to
Speaker 1: take it out of this arena a little bit, But
Speaker 1: how many times in our personal lives, throughout our lives
Speaker 1: would we have all made better choices had we just stopped,
Speaker 1: sat down, controlled ourselves, taken a couple of deep breaths,
Speaker 1: walked away, and not addressed it in the moment, in
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, Right, how many how many
Speaker 1: blow ups did you have in your life because you
Speaker 1: didn't do that? And I I think that's an important
Speaker 1: skill to learn. I also think Laurla would have been
Speaker 1: equally as upset in the way she was, even if
Speaker 1: they hadn't had sex per se. Say, they just came
Speaker 1: out of that room and they were like making out
Speaker 1: and fooling around like whatever. Right, I think that's what
Speaker 1: has It's the affair or the behind the back or
Speaker 1: the inappropriateness of it, not that Rory decided to lose
Speaker 1: her virginity. Yeah, I agree, that's yeah, It's not about
Speaker 1: Laura or it's not about Rory having sex. It's about
Speaker 1: the principle. The principle. Yea and Amy, you had made
Speaker 1: a comment about what it means like what Laurea La
Speaker 1: wants to protect her from. You know what it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a married man. Yes, it's Dean, it's my Dean.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of consequences in there that Rory's not
Speaker 1: seeing right now. So, like you said about just if
Speaker 1: if if Laura La, and again Laura is very preoccupied.
Speaker 1: This is to me this was a season of transitions
Speaker 1: and unavailability of what we consider kind of our stable people.
Speaker 1: It seems like all the main characters have something going
Speaker 1: on that they're not um as accessible to each other.
Speaker 1: They don't feel the same level of support or But
Speaker 1: but Rory is looking for like what, well, I'm getting
Speaker 1: off my train of thought here, but what Rory did.
Speaker 1: If if Laura La would have seen maybe all of
Speaker 1: the stuff that was happening that was leading up to
Speaker 1: that moment, she might have intervened. Yeah, you know, just
Speaker 1: questioning and and unfortunately, and I've you guys can kind
Speaker 1: of give me your thoughts on this too. In the
Speaker 1: four years that this has been on, as close as
Speaker 1: they are to everyone in Stars Hollow, there's really not
Speaker 1: another mother figure, not really no, right, Um, you know
Speaker 1: you've got bad, bad and you've got, you know, some
Speaker 1: other people miss Patty, but they don't really step in
Speaker 1: in the you know, kind of an ant role or
Speaker 1: you know, not even Suki does that and she certainly doesn't, right,
Speaker 1: and Richard and Emily they don't deal with that side
Speaker 1: of Rory. So there really wasn't a lot. There really
Speaker 1: wasn't many other choices. Lane was preoccupied too when she
Speaker 1: especially when she moved out of the dorm and uh
Speaker 1: with Loralai in this circumstance, they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of She and Rory do not have a lot of
Speaker 1: these ruptures in their relationship where there's a lot of
Speaker 1: experience of doesn't it also make Yeah, it makes you
Speaker 1: think that that episode, remember the episode where they were
Speaker 1: just missing each other so much? Yeah, is more significant
Speaker 1: that like she really didn't confide in her mom of
Speaker 1: any of this stuff about Jess, about Dean, about feeling
Speaker 1: like when everyone was kind of like you don't have
Speaker 1: a boyfriend and everyone else does you know all that
Speaker 1: and even even the spring breaks sort of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't go to stars Hollow. She really work out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: guess with Colin Egglesfield well in that Dean drunk, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the drunk dying and then that what does that episode
Speaker 1: call the sinking Laurela? Is? Is that the one or
Speaker 1: something like that, the one that you're mentioning there. Amy
Speaker 1: Also that was the one where Laurie Rory was given
Speaker 1: was met with the professor and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what's going on here. You need to drop
Speaker 1: a class. That's simple. Oh yeah, which for her not simple.
Speaker 1: She was you know, she says, I'm I'm failing. I
Speaker 1: can't hand. I mean that this is where it's really
Speaker 1: hitting upon her core beliefs. And so I think when
Speaker 1: you brought that up, it's a really pivotal point because
Speaker 1: she goes to try to find her mom because she's
Speaker 1: lost and Mom's not there. She's busy, get it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's real world. I mean, so let's get let me,
Speaker 1: let me get a definitive if there is even a
Speaker 1: definitive answer to should she have left it? Should Laurela
Speaker 1: have left it alone? And then brought maybe gently brought
Speaker 1: it up in the morning and let and let Rory
Speaker 1: just sort of settle into her experience of having lost
Speaker 1: her Virginia in her own space and her own time,
Speaker 1: knowing that Laurel is upset, but it's not been addressed yet.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, in a in a perfect world, if everybody
Speaker 1: knew what to do, you know, definit you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're asking me to give a definitive answer. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at these like real people right now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a definitive answer on that.
Speaker 1: Maybe if they could have said, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about this tomorrow, right, you know, but we will talk
Speaker 1: about this. Maybe, um, maybe that could have been better
Speaker 1: for cooler heads. But isn't it valuable for a young person,
Speaker 1: a daughter, eighteen year old, nineteen year old, to have
Speaker 1: that time to sort of process it all at least
Speaker 1: overnight and then part of part of a morning and
Speaker 1: then be more prepared to sort of maybe she goes
Speaker 1: to her mother and you know, offers an apology and
Speaker 1: oh my god, and and and maybe you know, a
Speaker 1: good parent doesn't really need to say anything if they
Speaker 1: trust their child to a at the moral center. Rory
Speaker 1: was so like, Rory thought it was great. I think
Speaker 1: that's my only like, I agree with you. Rory would
Speaker 1: have said, like Scott, I think where you're coming from
Speaker 1: is right, and that if they started the conversation and
Speaker 1: Rory sort of oh wait, but instead she was tripling
Speaker 1: down on how good of a thing this was, and
Speaker 1: my only thing is Like then she would have just
Speaker 1: gone off with the CDs back to the thing, thinking
Speaker 1: I got a boyfriend and I had sex, you know,
Speaker 1: Whereas like I think the reason why she I don't
Speaker 1: know about it. I think she I think the only
Speaker 1: reason she's feeling shame, if she's even feeling shame right now,
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but just based off of her
Speaker 1: breakdown is by calling Dean's phone. Yeah, that's the only reason.
Speaker 1: I think. That is what told her it's wrong, not
Speaker 1: even I drove her to do that by coming down
Speaker 1: on her hard. So she stormed off like I'm right,
Speaker 1: you're wrong, And then she calls her boyfriend who she
Speaker 1: just slept with, and his wife answers to me. That
Speaker 1: was the breaking point for her because she wanted to
Speaker 1: prove a point to Laureli, and Laureli was right, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I agree with you. I actually agree with you, Amia.
Speaker 1: It's Dean, my Dean. She was really gonna hold that
Speaker 1: this is my Dean. I had him first. All her
Speaker 1: sort of kind of asinine reasons. It's a she's she's
Speaker 1: living in a bit of a fantasy right there. And
Speaker 1: and and you know, if we looked at the reason why, Um,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of need of avoidance of reality for
Speaker 1: her right now. That's it's a really great place to
Speaker 1: avoid in that kind of relationship. I wonder you know
Speaker 1: when you talk about kind of stepping in a way,
Speaker 1: stepping away from a moment, I don't you know? And again,
Speaker 1: because we don't have the value of the Laura lot
Speaker 1: here telling us what she was thinking. Um, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's always a value in being able to like cooler
Speaker 1: heads prevail. I'm so curious what you all think if okay,
Speaker 1: so say that's everything plays out the same way, right
Speaker 1: except instead of running back to the house, Luke ran
Speaker 1: back to the house to get something, or Lane came
Speaker 1: to the house. What would they have said if they
Speaker 1: walked in on her Luke Luke catching them, and he
Speaker 1: would have no right to say anything. I think he
Speaker 1: I think go back to Laura. I think the question
Speaker 1: is what do you go back and tell Laura? La?
Speaker 1: That is a great question, that's the question. Do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Well? There, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, right, yeah, he's in trouble with Laura.
Speaker 1: If he does, he's in trouble with Rory, and then
Speaker 1: he's in trouble with Laura La too. If you also
Speaker 1: remember he doesn't run into the house alone at well Luke.
Speaker 1: Also he's seen Dean out at like he was playing
Speaker 1: video games and it does have the intel he does
Speaker 1: in his back pocket. And what do you think Lane
Speaker 1: would have said? Well, I think Lane would have been
Speaker 1: like Rory, this is I mean, how was it? But question?
Speaker 1: I think I think Lane would have been excited for
Speaker 1: her for like five minutes and then would start asking
Speaker 1: probably some of the same questions that Laurel I asked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in a friend way. Yeah, yeah, I would love
Speaker 1: to bring up I did see this note this week
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, great point, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: see what everyone thinks of it. Rory did quote ruin
Speaker 1: the graduation for Lourel because she was off with Jess
Speaker 1: and then remember the bus she couldn't get back, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But like this one is really again Lorelei's
Speaker 1: big night, and it's sort of taken sideways again by
Speaker 1: something that Roy doesn't I just thought. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's intentional. I don't even think it's subconscious. I think
Speaker 1: it's just a weird, wacky coincidence. But it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I think she's used to always everything kind of being
Speaker 1: about her. And I think as an only I am
Speaker 1: an only child, so like your problems or your problem,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, if that's the way
Speaker 1: she's thinking, it's just my guess because like Lorelai lives
Speaker 1: her life and then Rory doesn't really have a say
Speaker 1: in it, you know, like she doesn't. She just goes
Speaker 1: with the flow of what her mom does. Like if
Speaker 1: her mom wants to open a new end, great congratulations,
Speaker 1: Like she's not really like giving her input. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's true. I think Scott, you made that point
Speaker 1: too about Max. It's like you could really argue that
Speaker 1: that wasn't cool of Loralai, even though she's sort of
Speaker 1: tried to do it the right way, like talking to
Speaker 1: Rory about it and doing it, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: right way, and so I do see what it. Laura
Speaker 1: is not he perfoundaries. Let's talk about boundaries. Although I
Speaker 1: stand by that she handled that well, I do think
Speaker 1: she handled the situation as a as a good parent.
Speaker 1: But it is a little hypocritical. There is some hypocrisy.
Speaker 1: So Kim in your experience, let's talk about mother daughter
Speaker 1: is best friends? Is it good or bad? That is?
Speaker 1: You know, this is that was really interesting And I
Speaker 1: know you guys brought that up therein can lie the
Speaker 1: big problem though, right, and you know, and so if
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you know, if we're gonna do the
Speaker 1: deep dive on this, Laura Lee had Rory at sixteen,
Speaker 1: she moved, she's on her own. So even though she's
Speaker 1: a mom at sixteen, she can only be sixteen years old, right,
Speaker 1: you can only be sixteen years old. So when And
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I again speculating here, but I think
Speaker 1: Laurel Lize book for Raising Rory, if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: was I'm going to not do what my parents did.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing. And because
Speaker 1: she does talk about, you know, in her you know,
Speaker 1: in the in the times where she and Emily can
Speaker 1: actually have it out, they don't end well, Um, she
Speaker 1: doesn't feel seen, She didn't feel seen in the house.
Speaker 1: She talks about suffocating in the house. She feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, Emily and Richard wanted her to be a
Speaker 1: certain way in ignoring who she was. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that to my kid. So she
Speaker 1: wants to make sure that Rory, Yeah, she wants to
Speaker 1: make sure that, you know, Rory has a very different
Speaker 1: life than she does. But one of the things that
Speaker 1: happens is that when we talk about attachment theory, Laurea
Speaker 1: lies a gonna be Rory's attachment. That's my safe space.
Speaker 1: This is where I go get comfort. This is the
Speaker 1: person that's that takes care of me. This is the
Speaker 1: safest place in the world. I can't I think with
Speaker 1: with Loralai being as young as she was, and if
Speaker 1: you look just in these four seasons now of the
Speaker 1: relationships that she has. Unfortunately, I think Rory is laurelized
Speaker 1: attachment and that can create a lot of problems though,
Speaker 1: because it's beyond just being you know, and again, I
Speaker 1: love Loralai. I do. I love lral and I think
Speaker 1: she does an incredible job. And there are times where
Speaker 1: there's much too much on Rory for laurelized emotional regulation, which,
Speaker 1: like what you guys were talking about when it came
Speaker 1: when it comes time for her to be a mom,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of experience with it, right, or
Speaker 1: has been such a good I'm gonna do them a
Speaker 1: little air quotes here, good good kid for so long,
Speaker 1: um and that's a that's another piece. But so she
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience with having to be mom,
Speaker 1: having to have a lot of these issues. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it can be difficult some people, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to judge anybody out there that's done them,
Speaker 1: has done a stellar job. I've known people, but in
Speaker 1: that circumstance, because she doesn't have her parents, not in
Speaker 1: a way that you would want her to have them,
Speaker 1: And she also doesn't maybe because she was sixteen. She
Speaker 1: also doesn't have these other groups of moms that they
Speaker 1: can kind of write it's been with well, and she
Speaker 1: has such a bad experience with the other moms, other
Speaker 1: than maybe missus Kim, who's kind of you know, really
Speaker 1: the other moms were like mean to her. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think the only one that could kind of
Speaker 1: fulfill that role. And we saw her at one time
Speaker 1: was the lady that owned it was probably she's gone
Speaker 1: the time we meet them, she's gone. She's she's always
Speaker 1: look at Laura Lee, as you know, with with the
Speaker 1: intensity that Rory has in the determination of getting into Yale,
Speaker 1: it's almost like Laura Lie has that same intention and
Speaker 1: determination to raise her daughter on her own. I agree
Speaker 1: with that, do this on my own. And there's no
Speaker 1: way that you know you're not going to bump into
Speaker 1: some stuff with that. So with that being said, with
Speaker 1: the playbook being do everything not the way my parents
Speaker 1: did it, I do actually think Emily and Richard would
Speaker 1: have responded the same way, though if Laura Lee cheated,
Speaker 1: like if they color Lie in that situation. That's why
Speaker 1: I thought that it sounded so much like Emily when
Speaker 1: she was laying into Rory. Amy is about to disagree,
Speaker 1: only because I can't because I know something that's coming
Speaker 1: and so I cannot cannot bring that in. Please reduse
Speaker 1: yourself from this. I think there would have been more
Speaker 1: of you should be ashamed of yourself? How dare you
Speaker 1: put our family name through this? How dare you embarrass
Speaker 1: us this way? Like, I think there would have been
Speaker 1: more of that, but the same um. I feel like
Speaker 1: they would have reacted very similarly. Watch the one to
Speaker 1: kind of get if you want to kind of do
Speaker 1: a comparison. Um watch the one is it the first
Speaker 1: season with Rory and Dean go to the dance and
Speaker 1: they fall asleep and miss Patty. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: different energy with Emily. It's it's a lot of you
Speaker 1: did this, you ruined it. Yeah, you see, Laurel I
Speaker 1: really kind of pull it back. So she wants she
Speaker 1: wants to. I mean you could picture you know, right
Speaker 1: because in that episode she kind of laid it on
Speaker 1: Rory after Emily left, but in a in a nicer way,
Speaker 1: and she really did a mothering job there too. Now
Speaker 1: it is jarring when she switches from best friend to mother,
Speaker 1: but like, she didn't do the right thing there, ish.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could always criticize someone's parenting, like, but
Speaker 1: you know, she does step into mother mode when it's
Speaker 1: absolutely essential and it's confused, and then it becomes confusing
Speaker 1: for Rory. Oh yeah, that's that's the dad. That's what
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about it. You know, really has
Speaker 1: been a good kid, and she minds her mom's minds
Speaker 1: her moms. She minds her mom on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but when it moves into relationships stuff, she that's why
Speaker 1: she hit back at that time when when when Laura
Speaker 1: lines confronting her on that, she hits back. She hits
Speaker 1: back with you know, what about you and dad? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What about you and dad? With Sherry and all these
Speaker 1: kind of things. She's defending herself at that point and
Speaker 1: kind of trying to stave off the shame. Yeah, right right, Kim.
Speaker 1: Is there a parenting style in your experience, whether single mother,
Speaker 1: single father, or you know, a two parent household, is
Speaker 1: there a parenting style that produces happier, healthier, more successful
Speaker 1: kids over other parenting styles. What what we're finding out
Speaker 1: a lot now is you know, Scott, what you're talking
Speaker 1: about is this parents learning their own neurobiology and learning
Speaker 1: what's going on inside. There's always something going inside of
Speaker 1: us at all times, and learning how to be responsive
Speaker 1: versus being reactive. Because part of the job with the
Speaker 1: parents and the child is your your child is disregulated,
Speaker 1: and if you're not regulated you it's going to be
Speaker 1: very difficult to help your child regulate, and so then
Speaker 1: we might see stuff about you know, when you can
Speaker 1: act better, you can come back in here. And I'm
Speaker 1: not again I grew up hearing that, but but if
Speaker 1: you can't regulate your own then it's going to be
Speaker 1: put on the kid to make sure I don't do
Speaker 1: anything to upset you. I think it's making me so
Speaker 1: think about like that Lorelai should have said, we really
Speaker 1: need to sit down and talk about this. And whether
Speaker 1: it was right now or after the party or tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but really saying like, we really need
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk about this because this is
Speaker 1: a big deal in a lot of ways, and then
Speaker 1: addressing all the feelings because they need to address that
Speaker 1: she just lost her virginity, They need to address that
Speaker 1: she really made a bad choice in sleeping with Dan.
Speaker 1: Now wait two months, like whatever you know, and really
Speaker 1: sitting down and like talking it through. Do you know
Speaker 1: what the eight hundred pound grill in the room is
Speaker 1: for me? Regarding this entire conversation, this entire dynamic is
Speaker 1: the toxicity throughout Rory's life that she has been exposed
Speaker 1: to because of the tension and the war war and
Speaker 1: the battles and the skirmishes and the yelling and the
Speaker 1: screaming and the bad vibes between Laurela in her family
Speaker 1: and Emily and Richard tell Us Kim how that affects
Speaker 1: impacts a child, and that can lead to bad decision making.
Speaker 1: Way in the case of you know, if we're sticking
Speaker 1: with this show here, I don't know. I you know,
Speaker 1: you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Emily and Richard have been much of a part
Speaker 1: of Laura of Rory's life until she's going to Chilton.
Speaker 1: You know, it's occasional Christmas. Yeah, so I don't know
Speaker 1: how much they solve that. Um, there's no you know,
Speaker 1: there's no grandparents there of course, um, and she's going
Speaker 1: to have a perspective about them. But yeah, in in
Speaker 1: a situation where there's a lot of that kind of
Speaker 1: going back and forth and fighting, Well, can I draw
Speaker 1: a flag on the play? I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that's not good is when Laura lie says, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking to your father, but you can't remember,
Speaker 1: like she's sort of not talking to Christopher because of
Speaker 1: all the belief that went down to Christopher. That's an
Speaker 1: impossible situation to put a kid into. Yeah, so to me,
Speaker 1: that really didn't help. It's like, whether it's true or not,
Speaker 1: or whether she's she's definitely shouldn't say that, but it's
Speaker 1: like she needs to be communicating with Christopher because he
Speaker 1: is the father, and you don't say to your kid like, well,
Speaker 1: he hurt me, so I'm not talking to him, but
Speaker 1: you can. I won't be mad about that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: puts her in Yeah, you're right. It puts her in
Speaker 1: an impossible situation because she's not the adult. And it's basic.
Speaker 1: It goes down to Rory has no power and no authority,
Speaker 1: and those in the dangerous part when you're a kid
Speaker 1: who's given some sense of authority and something, just like
Speaker 1: we found out, the parent can kind of lower the
Speaker 1: boom and you find out all of a sudden, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have any any power and authority that that
Speaker 1: can do a number on you. I you know on
Speaker 1: this show, and you know, depending on how layer do
Speaker 1: you want it to be. I think Lorelai does a
Speaker 1: lot of right things on this show. And also, there's
Speaker 1: no way if she was sixteen and she ran away,
Speaker 1: and regardless of what we think about it, her character
Speaker 1: had to think it was bad enough that I ran
Speaker 1: away from home and I did not return, and I
Speaker 1: don't I still don't really want them Richard and Emily
Speaker 1: in my life at this point. Um, there's trauma there,
Speaker 1: and it's unresolved. And the one thing that we will
Speaker 1: see with m Laura Lai, and we'll also see it
Speaker 1: with Rory too, is I'm this is this is my
Speaker 1: keep everything at this cognitive level. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go down to those emotions. I really want to avoid
Speaker 1: those emotions. And that you know, avoiding emotions, which you
Speaker 1: know we all have. We all we all have a
Speaker 1: window of tolerance that we can you know, handle we
Speaker 1: none of us can handle a ton of stuff. But
Speaker 1: if you didn't have your parents or your caregivers help
Speaker 1: you deal with those, you will find really, really inventive
Speaker 1: ways to avoid this. And and so Laura is going
Speaker 1: to struggle with helping Rory with some of these because
Speaker 1: she doesn't know her own well. And I start thinking about, like,
Speaker 1: if we look at Rory's track record with boys, it's
Speaker 1: not great because we start with Tristan, who's the ultimate
Speaker 1: like stud at school, but like he was doing the
Speaker 1: ultimate like name calling because I like you, which back
Speaker 1: in the day, remember when parents would be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's just mean to you because he likes you. And
Speaker 1: now they're like, never teach that. It's so bad, right,
Speaker 1: It's got Tristan, who's like mean to her because he
Speaker 1: likes her. So that's like a very bad like way
Speaker 1: to start, right. Then she goes to Dean, which was
Speaker 1: a pretty good first relationship, but it had its problems
Speaker 1: because here comes Jess, and she's got one foot in
Speaker 1: with Jess before she's even out with Dean, and it's
Speaker 1: a total mess. Then she's got this guy Jess, who's
Speaker 1: sort of the town hoodlum and no one likes him
Speaker 1: and the bad boy and the whole thing, and her
Speaker 1: mom doesn't like him, and it's all this rebelling and
Speaker 1: and attractive. Right then she goes to college and she's
Speaker 1: lonely and doesn't have anybody and she's struggling, can't connect
Speaker 1: with her mom. Every woman knows, like you go back
Speaker 1: into the well, you're like, oh, I'm feeling sad, and
Speaker 1: you're either in a bag of chips or you're like,
Speaker 1: who can I like? Who can I go back into
Speaker 1: the well and dig out that I one time liked?
Speaker 1: And then you don't even know what you're doing. You're like,
Speaker 1: I like him, No, you don't. Well, and Dean. I
Speaker 1: think she loves Dean. She loved Dean at one time,
Speaker 1: as teenagers. She cares about him. I don't know if
Speaker 1: all this stuff wasn't going on right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And you know, like you know, Amy, when you brought
Speaker 1: up the other day, when you brought up you know,
Speaker 1: this is why you don't date married men. If there
Speaker 1: could have if Laura Lai wasn't available, and there could
Speaker 1: have been maybe an aunt Amy or or an aunt
Speaker 1: Danielle or Tara to kind of go, hey, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. This is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: This is why Dean might have been you know, always cute,
Speaker 1: but it might have been. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in there, but Dan, think
Speaker 1: of how awkward it is with the chick at the
Speaker 1: beauty counter. Sorry, you shouldn't say chick with the nice
Speaker 1: girl Shane at the beauty I always forget her name,
Speaker 1: and ready she's had those awkward run ins with Lindsay, Like,
Speaker 1: the problem is, like you said, the oxytocin when you're
Speaker 1: in this first kiss and I love Dean and he's
Speaker 1: my savior, you're not thinking ahead of like, oh great,
Speaker 1: now I can't go to anywhere in town. Like everything's
Speaker 1: it's just a mess. You don't think ahead and go, dude,
Speaker 1: wait two months. All I gotta do is say to
Speaker 1: this dude, well two months and the reminder too, Rory,
Speaker 1: remember you got bored with Dean that time. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good right now is representing home, you know, she
Speaker 1: tells to Lane and they have that little conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: she talks about Joe showing up and he's so he's
Speaker 1: so you know, like Seafe's she said, Jess's. When she
Speaker 1: talks about Jess, she's like, he's you know, he's unpredictable
Speaker 1: and he's sporadic. She's wanting safety right now. That's really well,
Speaker 1: everything her life has been, even though it's even though
Speaker 1: it's um a wonderful thing that she's in Yale and
Speaker 1: she's doing all these things, she's not feeling safe. And
Speaker 1: Dean is there when Mom isn't there. They have a history,
Speaker 1: there's an attraction there. He's not you know, as Luke
Speaker 1: is watching, he's not super crazy about what's happening at home.
Speaker 1: He's always wanted Rory first. Yeah, Dean's also the one
Speaker 1: that Rory left Dean and Jess left Rory. So like
Speaker 1: that's important to Yeah, so I think Dean is more
Speaker 1: symbolic of safety and home. But then when you put
Speaker 1: in the complication of you know, the attraction, and then
Speaker 1: we bring in the sex part of it too, all
Speaker 1: that gets really really muddy, and that's gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult for Laura Lai to compete with that
Speaker 1: frankly too at this point. So they both they both
Speaker 1: engaged in the act for all the wrong reasons, similar
Speaker 1: to Laura Lai and Christopher in the first season when
Speaker 1: they went to the house for dinner, they got all messy,
Speaker 1: that's right, and then poor Luke was got all the paint. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is kind of a similar pattern. So what
Speaker 1: we do kind of see that similar pattern of of
Speaker 1: Rory making kind of spontaneous, out of left field decisions.
Speaker 1: And she's young, so you know that that twenty five
Speaker 1: year old fully baked brain of right where yeah about
Speaker 1: there's there's six years away from having going full baked.
Speaker 1: And one of those things that's probably not the right
Speaker 1: thing to say fully baked brain, because I know that
Speaker 1: the brain is not fully formed. But one of the
Speaker 1: one of the things that happened in that last bit
Speaker 1: of the brain being formed is that ability to foresee
Speaker 1: long term consequences. Insurance companies have known this for years.
Speaker 1: I'm going to cut you off, but auto insurance. If
Speaker 1: you notice, your auto insurance drops down quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and if parents notice, the auto insurance drops down quite
Speaker 1: a bit when you get twenty one. Yeah, okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna wrap up this one, but get
Speaker 1: ready for a part two and we will uh see
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