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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast Oh everybody, Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 1: I am all in. Podcasts freshened from Toronto, Canada. Yeah wait,

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Speaker 1: how was that? Oh man? What a what a whirlwinds?

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Speaker 1: Did the comic co? Did the Toronto Comic Con with

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Speaker 1: fan Expo Canada, who are most excellent. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there Sean Gunn was there and the booth next to me.

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Speaker 1: We crushed it and I crashed Shawn Guns panel and

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Speaker 1: anybody has the video of me crashing Shawn Guns panel,

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Speaker 1: please bring it forward because it's it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. There was a ton of you.

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Speaker 1: He crashed your kiss. You should have crashed your panel.

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Speaker 1: He crashed my one. He crashed your kiss. That's why

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Speaker 1: It's a good way to enter a room and when

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Speaker 1: they realized it was me, it was just a vroorious

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Speaker 1: reunited with Chad, Michael Murray, Chad the the Chad Master,

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Speaker 1: episode of Soliving? I saw it Sunday night. I did

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Speaker 1: We did like thirteen hits. It was fun. Oh. Bell

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Speaker 1: she goes to try to find her mom because she's

423
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: lost and Mom's not there. She's busy, get it. You know,

424
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: it's real world. I mean, so let's get let me,

425
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: let me get a definitive if there is even a

426
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: definitive answer to should she have left it? Should Laurela

427
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: have left it alone? And then brought maybe gently brought

428
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: it up in the morning and let and let Rory

429
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: just sort of settle into her experience of having lost

430
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: her Virginia in her own space and her own time,

431
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: knowing that Laurel is upset, but it's not been addressed yet.

432
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, in a in a perfect world, if everybody

433
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: knew what to do, you know, definit you're you know,

434
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: you're asking me to give a definitive answer. And I'm

435
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: looking at these like real people right now, I'm like,

436
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a definitive answer on that.

437
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: Maybe if they could have said, we're going to talk

438
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: about this tomorrow, right, you know, but we will talk

439
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: about this. Maybe, um, maybe that could have been better

440
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: for cooler heads. But isn't it valuable for a young person,

441
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: a daughter, eighteen year old, nineteen year old, to have

442
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: that time to sort of process it all at least

443
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: overnight and then part of part of a morning and

444
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: then be more prepared to sort of maybe she goes

445
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: to her mother and you know, offers an apology and

446
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, and and and maybe you know, a

447
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: good parent doesn't really need to say anything if they

448
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: trust their child to a at the moral center. Rory

449
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: was so like, Rory thought it was great. I think

450
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: that's my only like, I agree with you. Rory would

451
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: have said, like Scott, I think where you're coming from

452
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: is right, and that if they started the conversation and

453
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Rory sort of oh wait, but instead she was tripling

454
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: down on how good of a thing this was, and

455
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: my only thing is Like then she would have just

456
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: gone off with the CDs back to the thing, thinking

457
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: I got a boyfriend and I had sex, you know,

458
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Whereas like I think the reason why she I don't

459
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: know about it. I think she I think the only

460
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: reason she's feeling shame, if she's even feeling shame right now,

461
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but just based off of her

462
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: breakdown is by calling Dean's phone. Yeah, that's the only reason.

463
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: I think. That is what told her it's wrong, not

464
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: even I drove her to do that by coming down

465
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: on her hard. So she stormed off like I'm right,

466
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: you're wrong, And then she calls her boyfriend who she

467
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: just slept with, and his wife answers to me. That

468
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: was the breaking point for her because she wanted to

469
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: prove a point to Laureli, and Laureli was right, and

470
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, I agree with you. I actually agree with you, Amia.

471
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: It's Dean, my Dean. She was really gonna hold that

472
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: this is my Dean. I had him first. All her

473
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: sort of kind of asinine reasons. It's a she's she's

474
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: living in a bit of a fantasy right there. And

475
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: and and you know, if we looked at the reason why, Um,

476
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of need of avoidance of reality for

477
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: her right now. That's it's a really great place to

478
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: avoid in that kind of relationship. I wonder you know

479
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: when you talk about kind of stepping in a way,

480
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: stepping away from a moment, I don't you know? And again,

481
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: because we don't have the value of the Laura lot

482
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: here telling us what she was thinking. Um, yeah, there's

483
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: there's always a value in being able to like cooler

484
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: heads prevail. I'm so curious what you all think if okay,

485
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: so say that's everything plays out the same way, right

486
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: except instead of running back to the house, Luke ran

487
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: back to the house to get something, or Lane came

488
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: to the house. What would they have said if they

489
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: walked in on her Luke Luke catching them, and he

490
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: would have no right to say anything. I think he

491
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I think go back to Laura. I think the question

492
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: is what do you go back and tell Laura? La?

493
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: That is a great question, that's the question. Do you think?

494
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Well? There, you know what I mean,

495
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, right, yeah, he's in trouble with Laura.

496
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 1: If he does, he's in trouble with Rory, and then

497
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: he's in trouble with Laura La too. If you also

498
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: remember he doesn't run into the house alone at well Luke.

499
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Also he's seen Dean out at like he was playing

500
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: video games and it does have the intel he does

501
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: in his back pocket. And what do you think Lane

502
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: would have said? Well, I think Lane would have been

503
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: like Rory, this is I mean, how was it? But question?

504
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I think I think Lane would have been excited for

505
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: her for like five minutes and then would start asking

506
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: probably some of the same questions that Laurel I asked, Yeah,

507
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: but in a friend way. Yeah, yeah, I would love

508
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: to bring up I did see this note this week

509
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, great point, and I wanted to

510
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: see what everyone thinks of it. Rory did quote ruin

511
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: the graduation for Lourel because she was off with Jess

512
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: and then remember the bus she couldn't get back, blah

513
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: blah blah. But like this one is really again Lorelei's

514
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: big night, and it's sort of taken sideways again by

515
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: something that Roy doesn't I just thought. I don't think

516
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: it's intentional. I don't even think it's subconscious. I think

517
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: it's just a weird, wacky coincidence. But it's like, oh no,

518
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: I think she's used to always everything kind of being

519
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: about her. And I think as an only I am

520
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: an only child, so like your problems or your problem,

521
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, if that's the way

522
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: she's thinking, it's just my guess because like Lorelai lives

523
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: her life and then Rory doesn't really have a say

524
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: in it, you know, like she doesn't. She just goes

525
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: with the flow of what her mom does. Like if

526
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: her mom wants to open a new end, great congratulations,

527
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Like she's not really like giving her input. Yeah, I

528
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: think that's true. I think Scott, you made that point

529
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: too about Max. It's like you could really argue that

530
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't cool of Loralai, even though she's sort of

531
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: tried to do it the right way, like talking to

532
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Rory about it and doing it, but like, you know,

533
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: right way, and so I do see what it. Laura

534
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: is not he perfoundaries. Let's talk about boundaries. Although I

535
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: stand by that she handled that well, I do think

536
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: she handled the situation as a as a good parent.

537
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: But it is a little hypocritical. There is some hypocrisy.

538
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: So Kim in your experience, let's talk about mother daughter

539
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: is best friends? Is it good or bad? That is?

540
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, this is that was really interesting And I

541
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: know you guys brought that up therein can lie the

542
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: big problem though, right, and you know, and so if

543
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you know, if we're gonna do the

544
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: deep dive on this, Laura Lee had Rory at sixteen,

545
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: she moved, she's on her own. So even though she's

546
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: a mom at sixteen, she can only be sixteen years old, right,

547
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: you can only be sixteen years old. So when And

548
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I again speculating here, but I think

549
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Laurel Lize book for Raising Rory, if I had to guess,

550
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: was I'm going to not do what my parents did.

551
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing. And because

552
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: she does talk about, you know, in her you know,

553
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: in the in the times where she and Emily can

554
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: actually have it out, they don't end well, Um, she

555
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: doesn't feel seen, She didn't feel seen in the house.

556
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: She talks about suffocating in the house. She feels like,

557
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, Emily and Richard wanted her to be a

558
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: certain way in ignoring who she was. So it's like,

559
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that to my kid. So she

560
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: wants to make sure that Rory, Yeah, she wants to

561
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: make sure that, you know, Rory has a very different

562
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: life than she does. But one of the things that

563
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: happens is that when we talk about attachment theory, Laurea

564
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: lies a gonna be Rory's attachment. That's my safe space.

565
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: This is where I go get comfort. This is the

566
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: person that's that takes care of me. This is the

567
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: safest place in the world. I can't I think with

568
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: with Loralai being as young as she was, and if

569
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: you look just in these four seasons now of the

570
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: relationships that she has. Unfortunately, I think Rory is laurelized

571
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: attachment and that can create a lot of problems though,

572
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: because it's beyond just being you know, and again, I

573
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: love Loralai. I do. I love lral and I think

574
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: she does an incredible job. And there are times where

575
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: there's much too much on Rory for laurelized emotional regulation, which,

576
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: like what you guys were talking about when it came

577
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: when it comes time for her to be a mom,

578
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of experience with it, right, or

579
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: has been such a good I'm gonna do them a

580
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: little air quotes here, good good kid for so long,

581
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: um and that's a that's another piece. But so she

582
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience with having to be mom,

583
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: having to have a lot of these issues. But yeah,

584
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: I think it can be difficult some people, you know,

585
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to judge anybody out there that's done them,

586
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: has done a stellar job. I've known people, but in

587
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: that circumstance, because she doesn't have her parents, not in

588
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: a way that you would want her to have them,

589
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: And she also doesn't maybe because she was sixteen. She

590
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: also doesn't have these other groups of moms that they

591
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: can kind of write it's been with well, and she

592
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: has such a bad experience with the other moms, other

593
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: than maybe missus Kim, who's kind of you know, really

594
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: the other moms were like mean to her. Yeah, yeah,

595
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: And I think the only one that could kind of

596
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: fulfill that role. And we saw her at one time

597
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: was the lady that owned it was probably she's gone

598
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: the time we meet them, she's gone. She's she's always

599
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: look at Laura Lee, as you know, with with the

600
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: intensity that Rory has in the determination of getting into Yale,

601
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: it's almost like Laura Lie has that same intention and

602
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: determination to raise her daughter on her own. I agree

603
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: with that, do this on my own. And there's no

604
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: way that you know you're not going to bump into

605
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: some stuff with that. So with that being said, with

606
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the playbook being do everything not the way my parents

607
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: did it, I do actually think Emily and Richard would

608
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: have responded the same way, though if Laura Lee cheated,

609
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: like if they color Lie in that situation. That's why

610
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I thought that it sounded so much like Emily when

611
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: she was laying into Rory. Amy is about to disagree,

612
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: only because I can't because I know something that's coming

613
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: and so I cannot cannot bring that in. Please reduse

614
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: yourself from this. I think there would have been more

615
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: of you should be ashamed of yourself? How dare you

616
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: put our family name through this? How dare you embarrass

617
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: us this way? Like, I think there would have been

618
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: more of that, but the same um. I feel like

619
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: they would have reacted very similarly. Watch the one to

620
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of get if you want to kind of do

621
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: a comparison. Um watch the one is it the first

622
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: season with Rory and Dean go to the dance and

623
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: they fall asleep and miss Patty. It's a little bit

624
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: different energy with Emily. It's it's a lot of you

625
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: did this, you ruined it. Yeah, you see, Laurel I

626
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: really kind of pull it back. So she wants she

627
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: wants to. I mean you could picture you know, right

628
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: because in that episode she kind of laid it on

629
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: Rory after Emily left, but in a in a nicer way,

630
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: and she really did a mothering job there too. Now

631
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: it is jarring when she switches from best friend to mother,

632
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: but like, she didn't do the right thing there, ish.

633
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you could always criticize someone's parenting, like, but

634
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, she does step into mother mode when it's

635
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: absolutely essential and it's confused, and then it becomes confusing

636
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: for Rory. Oh yeah, that's that's the dad. That's what

637
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about it. You know, really has

638
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: been a good kid, and she minds her mom's minds

639
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: her moms. She minds her mom on a lot of things,

640
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: but when it moves into relationships stuff, she that's why

641
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: she hit back at that time when when when Laura

642
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: lines confronting her on that, she hits back. She hits

643
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: back with you know, what about you and dad? Yeah?

644
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: What about you and dad? With Sherry and all these

645
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: kind of things. She's defending herself at that point and

646
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of trying to stave off the shame. Yeah, right right, Kim.

647
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Is there a parenting style in your experience, whether single mother,

648
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: single father, or you know, a two parent household, is

649
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: there a parenting style that produces happier, healthier, more successful

650
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: kids over other parenting styles. What what we're finding out

651
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot now is you know, Scott, what you're talking

652
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: about is this parents learning their own neurobiology and learning

653
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: what's going on inside. There's always something going inside of

654
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: us at all times, and learning how to be responsive

655
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: versus being reactive. Because part of the job with the

656
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: parents and the child is your your child is disregulated,

657
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: and if you're not regulated you it's going to be

658
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: very difficult to help your child regulate, and so then

659
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: we might see stuff about you know, when you can

660
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: act better, you can come back in here. And I'm

661
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: not again I grew up hearing that, but but if

662
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: you can't regulate your own then it's going to be

663
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: put on the kid to make sure I don't do

664
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: anything to upset you. I think it's making me so

665
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: think about like that Lorelai should have said, we really

666
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: need to sit down and talk about this. And whether

667
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: it was right now or after the party or tomorrow,

668
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but really saying like, we really need

669
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk about this because this is

670
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: a big deal in a lot of ways, and then

671
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: addressing all the feelings because they need to address that

672
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: she just lost her virginity, They need to address that

673
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: she really made a bad choice in sleeping with Dan.

674
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Now wait two months, like whatever you know, and really

675
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: sitting down and like talking it through. Do you know

676
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: what the eight hundred pound grill in the room is

677
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: for me? Regarding this entire conversation, this entire dynamic is

678
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: the toxicity throughout Rory's life that she has been exposed

679
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: to because of the tension and the war war and

680
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the battles and the skirmishes and the yelling and the

681
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: screaming and the bad vibes between Laurela in her family

682
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: and Emily and Richard tell Us Kim how that affects

683
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: impacts a child, and that can lead to bad decision making.

684
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Way in the case of you know, if we're sticking

685
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: with this show here, I don't know. I you know,

686
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know

687
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: if Emily and Richard have been much of a part

688
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: of Laura of Rory's life until she's going to Chilton.

689
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's occasional Christmas. Yeah, so I don't know

690
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: how much they solve that. Um, there's no you know,

691
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: there's no grandparents there of course, um, and she's going

692
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: to have a perspective about them. But yeah, in in

693
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: a situation where there's a lot of that kind of

694
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: going back and forth and fighting, Well, can I draw

695
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: a flag on the play? I think one of the

696
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: things that's not good is when Laura lie says, oh,

697
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking to your father, but you can't remember,

698
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: like she's sort of not talking to Christopher because of

699
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: all the belief that went down to Christopher. That's an

700
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: impossible situation to put a kid into. Yeah, so to me,

701
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: that really didn't help. It's like, whether it's true or not,

702
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: or whether she's she's definitely shouldn't say that, but it's

703
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: like she needs to be communicating with Christopher because he

704
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: is the father, and you don't say to your kid like, well,

705
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: he hurt me, so I'm not talking to him, but

706
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: you can. I won't be mad about that. Yeah, it

707
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: puts her in Yeah, you're right. It puts her in

708
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: an impossible situation because she's not the adult. And it's basic.

709
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: It goes down to Rory has no power and no authority,

710
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and those in the dangerous part when you're a kid

711
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: who's given some sense of authority and something, just like

712
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: we found out, the parent can kind of lower the

713
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: boom and you find out all of a sudden, oh,

714
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't have any any power and authority that that

715
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: can do a number on you. I you know on

716
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: this show, and you know, depending on how layer do

717
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: you want it to be. I think Lorelai does a

718
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of right things on this show. And also, there's

719
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: no way if she was sixteen and she ran away,

720
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: and regardless of what we think about it, her character

721
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: had to think it was bad enough that I ran

722
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: away from home and I did not return, and I

723
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: don't I still don't really want them Richard and Emily

724
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: in my life at this point. Um, there's trauma there,

725
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's unresolved. And the one thing that we will

726
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: see with m Laura Lai, and we'll also see it

727
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: with Rory too, is I'm this is this is my

728
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: keep everything at this cognitive level. I don't want to

729
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: go down to those emotions. I really want to avoid

730
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: those emotions. And that you know, avoiding emotions, which you

731
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: know we all have. We all we all have a

732
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: window of tolerance that we can you know, handle we

733
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: none of us can handle a ton of stuff. But

734
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: if you didn't have your parents or your caregivers help

735
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: you deal with those, you will find really, really inventive

736
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: ways to avoid this. And and so Laura is going

737
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: to struggle with helping Rory with some of these because

738
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: she doesn't know her own well. And I start thinking about, like,

739
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: if we look at Rory's track record with boys, it's

740
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: not great because we start with Tristan, who's the ultimate

741
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: like stud at school, but like he was doing the

742
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: ultimate like name calling because I like you, which back

743
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: in the day, remember when parents would be like, Oh,

744
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: he's just mean to you because he likes you. And

745
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: now they're like, never teach that. It's so bad, right,

746
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: It's got Tristan, who's like mean to her because he

747
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: likes her. So that's like a very bad like way

748
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: to start, right. Then she goes to Dean, which was

749
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good first relationship, but it had its problems

750
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: because here comes Jess, and she's got one foot in

751
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: with Jess before she's even out with Dean, and it's

752
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: a total mess. Then she's got this guy Jess, who's

753
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: sort of the town hoodlum and no one likes him

754
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: and the bad boy and the whole thing, and her

755
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: mom doesn't like him, and it's all this rebelling and

756
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: and attractive. Right then she goes to college and she's

757
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: lonely and doesn't have anybody and she's struggling, can't connect

758
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: with her mom. Every woman knows, like you go back

759
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: into the well, you're like, oh, I'm feeling sad, and

760
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: you're either in a bag of chips or you're like,

761
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: who can I like? Who can I go back into

762
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: the well and dig out that I one time liked?

763
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: And then you don't even know what you're doing. You're like,

764
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I like him, No, you don't. Well, and Dean. I

765
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: think she loves Dean. She loved Dean at one time,

766
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: as teenagers. She cares about him. I don't know if

767
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: all this stuff wasn't going on right now, I don't know.

768
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: And you know, like you know, Amy, when you brought

769
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: up the other day, when you brought up you know,

770
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: this is why you don't date married men. If there

771
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: could have if Laura Lai wasn't available, and there could

772
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: have been maybe an aunt Amy or or an aunt

773
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Danielle or Tara to kind of go, hey, this is

774
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. This is gonna be a problem.

775
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: This is why Dean might have been you know, always cute,

776
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: but it might have been. Yeah, I don't want to

777
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in there, but Dan, think

778
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: of how awkward it is with the chick at the

779
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: beauty counter. Sorry, you shouldn't say chick with the nice

780
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: girl Shane at the beauty I always forget her name,

781
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: and ready she's had those awkward run ins with Lindsay, Like,

782
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: the problem is, like you said, the oxytocin when you're

783
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: in this first kiss and I love Dean and he's

784
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: my savior, you're not thinking ahead of like, oh great,

785
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: now I can't go to anywhere in town. Like everything's

786
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: it's just a mess. You don't think ahead and go, dude,

787
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: wait two months. All I gotta do is say to

788
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: this dude, well two months and the reminder too, Rory,

789
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: remember you got bored with Dean that time. Yeah, that's

790
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: a good right now is representing home, you know, she

791
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: tells to Lane and they have that little conversation. You know,

792
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: she talks about Joe showing up and he's so he's

793
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: so you know, like Seafe's she said, Jess's. When she

794
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: talks about Jess, she's like, he's you know, he's unpredictable

795
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: and he's sporadic. She's wanting safety right now. That's really well,

796
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: everything her life has been, even though it's even though

797
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: it's um a wonderful thing that she's in Yale and

798
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: she's doing all these things, she's not feeling safe. And

799
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: Dean is there when Mom isn't there. They have a history,

800
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: there's an attraction there. He's not you know, as Luke

801
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: is watching, he's not super crazy about what's happening at home.

802
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: He's always wanted Rory first. Yeah, Dean's also the one

803
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: that Rory left Dean and Jess left Rory. So like

804
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: that's important to Yeah, so I think Dean is more

805
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: symbolic of safety and home. But then when you put

806
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: in the complication of you know, the attraction, and then

807
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: we bring in the sex part of it too, all

808
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: that gets really really muddy, and that's gonna be it's

809
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult for Laura Lai to compete with that

810
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 1: frankly too at this point. So they both they both

811
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: engaged in the act for all the wrong reasons, similar

812
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: to Laura Lai and Christopher in the first season when

813
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: they went to the house for dinner, they got all messy,

814
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: that's right, and then poor Luke was got all the paint. Yeah,

815
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: but it is kind of a similar pattern. So what

816
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: we do kind of see that similar pattern of of

817
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: Rory making kind of spontaneous, out of left field decisions.

818
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: And she's young, so you know that that twenty five

819
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: year old fully baked brain of right where yeah about

820
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: there's there's six years away from having going full baked.

821
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: And one of those things that's probably not the right

822
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: thing to say fully baked brain, because I know that

823
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: the brain is not fully formed. But one of the

824
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: one of the things that happened in that last bit

825
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: of the brain being formed is that ability to foresee

826
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: long term consequences. Insurance companies have known this for years.

827
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to cut you off, but auto insurance. If

828
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you notice, your auto insurance drops down quite a bit,

829
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: and if parents notice, the auto insurance drops down quite

830
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: a bit when you get twenty one. Yeah, okay, everybody,

831
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna wrap up this one, but get

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00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: ready for a part two and we will uh see

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