1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway Savage. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: What it was Savage? He did a tribute. I know 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: you beg you good friends with Savage? What did that 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: mean to you? 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Man? 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: Just I ain't gonna lie. Savage one of the realist 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: niggas I ever met in life. Real Like, he's so solid, bro. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: And it's because like my friends, my brothers became his 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: brothers and vice versa. You know what I'm saying, Like 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: when he lost like people that he lost, like when 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: he lost Skinny and CJ and them. You feel I'm 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: saying like that shit. You know it made me. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Feel I sat down with him, you guys, personality, y'all, y'all, 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I can see how y'all guys became friends. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: You know for sure, we both leaders too. You know 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's my brother, Like like how we locked in. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: Like I'm seeing how he really take care of his people. Yes, 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: and he cared about his brothers. You know what I'm saying, 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: Like I do the same thing for me, and he 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: was seeing it. So it's like when I'm coming to Atlanta, 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm really only going around him. I'm hanging around him 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: and his homies, Like sometimes he not even coming outside. 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm with his man's you know what I'm saying. So 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 3: it's like they really became my brothers and vice versa. 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: The same way, like he come in Chicago, like he 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: was just in Chicago. He was in my hood with 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: my homies. I wasn't there. Feel like we really got 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: that type of love and mutual respect for each other. 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: You feel me. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: It's like when when he saw what that did to me, 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: like little Bro, like that shit really hurt him too. 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: He called me about it like, man, whatever you need, 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: Like anytime any situation happened with somebody with me or anything, 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: like he called him like, whatever you need, call me, 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: you feel I'm saying, It's like I still I'm not 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: gonna hit him, for sure, that's my brother, you know. 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: But it's like I know for a fact he he there, 39 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: He there for me, and in any situation, he gonna 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: be there, you feel. I'm saying, like I talked to 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: bro Dad every day. 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: When she Keeth moved to La with that when you 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: felt that you needed to make the move to Yeah, 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. That was gold. I talk about 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: that so much. Bro, Like when Sosa moved to La. 46 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: It just it made it possible for us, Like damn, 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: you could just go to Cali and ain't got to 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: look over your shoulder no more. Like that was the 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: coldest shit ever to me, Like I didn't even really 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: like and that's crazy. We were just so like young 51 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: and dumb and naive to how much life is outside 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: of Chicago. 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: We like, Damn Social just moved to La and got 55 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: a big ass man chiain Like I couldn't wait. 56 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: To do that shit. 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: As soon as that what Uncle Roy saying. When I 58 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: got that check, I was gone. I changed soon as 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: I got a chance to move to La. 60 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: I was up right. 61 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, bro, Social just started a whole new 62 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: life here, Like he don't even got to like think 63 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: about that shit no more. You don't got to look 64 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: over your shoulders, none of that. Like when we moved 65 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: to La. It's not even like how La was for real, 66 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: Like I mean how La is now like I feel 67 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: like COVID kind of La yep, where it's like, yeah, 68 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: Nigga's getting robbed and certain, Yeah, that shit wasn't going 69 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: on like that when we first came here, like I've 70 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: been in LA for like seven years, Sosa been here 71 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: like ten eleven, and shit like that. 72 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: You feel me so Like. 73 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: When he when he first moved to La, Like I 74 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: was like, damn, I can't wait. When he made that move, 75 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: it was like it's Sosa always been the blueprint for 76 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: like like certain niggas might not say it, but like 77 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna always get bro his flowers. Like he really 78 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: the greatest thing that happened to Chicago in my opinion. 79 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Like would you have left Chicago had he not moved 80 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: to La. No, Hell no, I wouldn't even know what 81 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: to do well, Like I wouldn't have knew that, Like. 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: You could just leave and go, Like you feel what 83 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I would have had to see it, 84 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: like to see it to believe it, you know what 85 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like he moved to La, I'm like, damn 86 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: that shit hard. You feel what I'm saying, Like and 87 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: as soon as I got a chance to, I did it. 88 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying like just the best thing 89 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: you've done. 90 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, And like I feel like it saved my 91 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: life for real, for real, for real, like moving to 92 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: La one hundred percent saved my life, you fee what 93 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 94 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: And like when Sosa got all that. 95 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Money, Sosa was sixteen with real millions of dollars, you 96 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like I was sixteen some money. 97 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: I had a couple hundred thousand, had the millions of 98 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: dollars at sixteen years, you know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: So it's like his. 100 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: Life was different, you know, like he had the big mansions, 101 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: the cars, Like he was really like the inspiration for 102 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: us and my homie who I was saying, cap like 103 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: mahomie Marvin, who I was saying was like cocky on 104 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: the block where he told us not the movie right, 105 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: That was one of sosia best friends. They grew up together. 106 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: They from the same project. So that's how I knew Sosa. 107 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: Like when I first started rapping was around the time 108 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: he started rapping, and we really like was homies, you 109 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like Sosa is somebody who I 110 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: really considered my brother, and it's somebody that's still like 111 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: even though we're the same age. He always inspired me, 112 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like motivating me, Like all right, bet. 113 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: So that was your first day to action. With him 114 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: because one of your partners was his partners. 115 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: That's how y'all, y'all actions was in the studio together. Okay, okay, 116 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: like when we like fifteen years old, you know what 117 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I started he had his own basically kind 118 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: of like his own studio in his hood with well 119 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: like his homies and his engineer, and we just came 120 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: in and like paid for studio time there because my 121 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: homie like Cap and Wap who brothers who grew up 122 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: with Sosa, they like referred to us like, man, y'all 123 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: should go record right there, just pay for the studio 124 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: time and we would come like Sosa be recording when 125 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: he of course he was always the first priority. So 126 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: it's like what he done recording, then we did studio time, right, 127 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: So like that's how we really. 128 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Met, you said, Nicki Minaj was really the first one 129 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: to give you an opportunity. He wanted a feature. Yeah, 130 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: but when she called you, you ain't as the phone, No, 131 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I believe it. 132 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: So you called your phone you like she said what 133 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: you said? 134 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: No she was so look she didn't the original call. 135 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't her on the phone. Okay, you know what 136 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: I'm saying it was a Safari on the phone, okay called. 137 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: So when they hit us, it was like four in 138 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: the morning. I'm in the studio on how Lean and 139 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: Peels and all. 140 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: Type of bullshit. They like, yeah, man, NICKI trying to 141 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: get you to come to that land. Do no verse. 142 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: I'm doing verse like this, NICKI them team on the phone. 143 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: You want to talk to him? 144 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, hell no, you know NICKI them bro, 145 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: like man going with this ship, Like that's why I 146 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: told my managers, Like bro, he like you want to 147 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: talk to him on the phone. 148 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, no, I know that's not. 149 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: Them, Like, man, you tweaking you just because at that 150 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: point we hot, so people calling and playing on the 151 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: phone all the time. So it was like, I'm man, 152 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: that ain't them, bro. They called back like two three 153 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: years later, I mean not two three years, two two days, 154 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: two three days later, like what the y'all doing, Like 155 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: we're trying to put you out on the plane in 156 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: LA to come through the song. So then I wind 157 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: up talking to him on the phone for real, like 158 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: a bet now they serious, And I got on the 159 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: plane and I did the verse, and she was just 160 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: telling me like like how she fucked with my music 161 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: and like she wanted to do the song the beat 162 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: that she hit. She wanted to do the song like 163 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: with my catus. You know what I'm saying. Like that's why, 164 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: like i'mna always fuck with Nikky and respect Niggy, because 165 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: she was like, I'm trying to use your catus and 166 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: your flow and I ain't want to feel like I 167 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: was like biting, like biting your flow a swagger Jack, 168 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: even though she is a female and I'm a male, Like 169 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: it don't really matter. She's like, I ain't want to 170 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: feel like I was using your flow and not show 171 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: love and put you on the record. And at that 172 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: point that time, like I wasn't really like a real 173 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: like I felt I could rap, but I wasn't like 174 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: a real MC where I would have called it, like 175 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: if you would have put that song out without hitting me, 176 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: I would have been like, oh she stole my floone. 177 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: This shit I wouldn't even notice because it's Nicki Mina's. 178 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even thought about it. Damn she using the 179 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: same pockets that I be in. I didn't know that 180 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: much about lyrics and pockets and shit, Like I used 181 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: to just go and rap. Like everybody used to say 182 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: I wrapped off beat when I first started rapping, because 183 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: I would just go, like, you know, I as one 184 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: by two by three by four bars, and it's a 185 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: different pocket or cadence on the beat that classified was 186 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: one to four bars. I wouldn't start on the one. 187 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll start on the two. Sometimes I would start 188 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: on the three and just rap, So people would say 189 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: I was off beat. Technically I was, but I was 190 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: fitting a whole bar into that, like a whole sentence 191 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: into it where it's still made sense. So it's like 192 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: some people hated me for it, some people. 193 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: Love me for it. I'm saying. 194 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: So it's like I never would have noticed anything, you 195 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: feel me. But she pulled me out there and I 196 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: did the verse with her in the studio. She had 197 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: me in the studio with me, I mean with her, 198 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: and I spent like a whole day with her, like yeah, 199 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: it was just chilling and talking and shit like that, 200 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: and the studio was big as shit. So first I 201 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: started like recording part of my verse in the booth, 202 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: and she like, all right, y'all want to do something 203 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: real quick. I'm trying to do like she told me, 204 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: she was finna do something like for her verse and 205 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: work on another song. So she like, like it's another studio, 206 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: another booth over I've never seen no shit like that. 207 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Dam She's like, yeah, you can record on the other side. 208 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, it's the other side. 209 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't believe this shit like that, shit that's 210 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: really inspired me. Like, but it's a lot of money 211 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: out here. You got to go get this shit, you 212 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 213 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: And after I did it, I went home and just 214 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: turned me into like a monster. Like I mean, after 215 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: I did that video, I probably made like a half 216 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: a million dollars just grinding just like I'm going to 217 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: through shows. 218 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm throwing shit. 219 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: I was young at hell, like I'm probably like sixteen, seven, 220 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: seventeen years old like that. 221 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't no longer, no older than eight to hear. 222 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I made a lot of money after I did 223 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: this song, and like I really credited to her because 224 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: she just I mean, like, boy, I got a song 225 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: with Nicki Minaj, I gotta go get all the money 226 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: that's out there, and I did it. 227 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Is that how you got a tour with Cam Cameron 228 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Future in TII. 229 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: So that how you got on with them, because yeah, 230 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: I did it. I was on really I did. 231 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: Got a shout to Johnny shipes Man, it's my brother. 232 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: He managed me for about a year and a half 233 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: and he had put me on the Smoker's Club tour. 234 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: So that's how I really had. 235 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: Met I met Cam and I met Tiai when we 236 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: went to Atlanta for that tour. Okay, So what I'm 237 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: saying like, that's when I first met him, and it 238 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: was just like brief, like just in passing. Chopped it 239 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: up with him, told my name and shit like that. 240 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: And then when he came to Chicago next time, he 241 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: linked up with me. 242 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, yeah, I fucked with Tivy Solid. 243 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, uh Cam, I mean, look, I 244 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: ain't heard nothing of that. I met Cam once at 245 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: at a CU game. But every artist that you hear 246 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: talk about Cam, they say, what a straight? What a 247 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: solid do? I mean, I've never heard an artist say 248 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: anything negative about Cam, Like what you see is what 249 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: you get. 250 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: He went out with you all the time. 251 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cam did some real ship too. When I was 252 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: on tour on the Smoke's Club tour, I was like, 253 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: I think I was probably like the first opening act 254 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: and he was headlanting. 255 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: Wow, I was first. There's like two more people after me. 256 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: He like, he told shapes them like, Bro, you don't 257 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: see he turning up every night. You need to make 258 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: him like co headline before me. So I went from 259 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: like the first opening act to the headlanting with Cam 260 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: just off of him like seeing my show and turning 261 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: the ship up. 262 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: Like I really kind of. I bumped up. Yeah, bumped 263 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: up a couple acts. If you know you do that, 264 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: you get paid a little bit. Yeah. 265 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to open, but I might not close. 266 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: But like, but you brought closer to the back. Yeah, no, 267 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: for sure, He's super solid for that. We talk about 268 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Chicago rappers. I you Kanye Key Common, Common, I think 269 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: you was trying to you were going to audition for 270 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: a barbershop. 271 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: Three right, Yeah, I was talking about that today too. 272 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: So did you had you ever met Common? Proud of that? 273 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: I did? I did. 274 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: I had Matt My first time meeting Common, I believe 275 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: we was at like a like an event, like some 276 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: non for profit stuff, right, just like introduced myself to him. 277 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: And then the second time we met meet him in 278 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: Chance had a song that was going on my my mixtape, 279 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: and Mickey, my manager, put it together like he I 280 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: had already new Chance, so I had put Chance on 281 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: the record, and then he reached out the Common team 282 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: put comment on the record. 283 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: Common so solid. 284 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: He pulled up shot the video on eighty seventh and 285 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: stony like in his old hood for real, like he 286 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: was super solid. And I just always like, damn he real, 287 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 3: like like hit real. 288 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: So when I did. 289 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: The audition for the barbershop for the script, I had 290 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: already had his info and they told me, like Calming 291 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: in the movie, I'm like, man, I ain't ever read 292 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: no script before, bro, Like I need some help with 293 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: this shit. It's like he told me to come to 294 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: his hotel. He was staying at the Langham Downtown. I'll 295 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: never forget. And like I'm like, damn, man, this Richie's Hell's. 296 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: Big ass, this big ass hotel room. Man, shit was 297 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: huge coming there. 298 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: We auditioned it for the well he like helping me 299 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 3: with with the last he helped me read and it's 300 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: like it gave me a different kind of respect for 301 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: him just because he gave me that opportunity to do it. 302 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: And two I wasn't like I wasn't ready to be 303 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 3: an actor yet, Like I didn't have it in me 304 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: at that moment, and he was so like it went 305 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: from ah, yeah, this common big bro, to no, I'm 306 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: acting and you acting like just like the look like 307 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: and it like because the script on reading, I'm having 308 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: to talk to like a gangster. You know what I'm saying. 309 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: It's like his whole everything told demeanor change, demeanor change, 310 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: whereas like he really trans locked in my head like 311 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: what the how the fuck can he do that? It 312 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 3: was crazy to me, Bro, And it's like it made 313 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: me uncomfortable because I'm like, all right, Bro, snap back 314 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: real quick. Yeah, yeah, you feel what I'm saying. 315 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: It's like, but he helped me. I did that. 316 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: I did it, I put it in and I didn't 317 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: get to roll him. I didn't get the road because 318 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: I just I couldn't lock in into that, like I couldn't. 319 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: But I just I'm always fuck with Bro, because he 320 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: really he told me like, man, come here, going to 321 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: help me with this ship. 322 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's some of the 323 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: best advice come and give you? 324 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: Because he's in the rap game, but you know he's 325 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of he does more into the TV and the 326 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: film industry now, But what are some of the device 327 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: did he passed along to you. 328 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: That day, that exact day, told me, like, Bro, you 329 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: gotta always like like got of information, like read on stuff, 330 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying before you make a decision, 331 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: Like read learn about it, you know what I'm saying. 332 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 3: That's he told me that. And it was like and 333 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: ain't had nothing to do with acting though, right he 334 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: talking about like music, you knowe what I'm saying being 335 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: an artist, like he like read articles about like label shit, 336 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like read articles about the 337 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: touring like shit like that. Like read articles about the 338 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: touring business, you know what I'm saying, Like read the 339 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: dictionary like shit like that. He like, Bro, if you 340 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: really want to be a lyricist, And he said that 341 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: because he had put me on his album right before that, 342 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: and that shit got nominated for Grammy too. He put 343 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: me on his album and the project, the beat that 344 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: we did was produced by no Id and he was 345 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: just like, bro, like you young, but like you're a 346 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: real MC like a spinner. He like, the more knowledge 347 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: you get is just gonna make you better as an 348 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: artist like better as a rapper, and I listened though 349 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie, like I really like, I read 350 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: a lot of shit now like I ain't gonna lie. 351 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: I read a lot of shit, and i'd be reading 352 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: like I read the dictionary. I'll be trying to learn 353 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: new words like from that point on and my homies 354 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: not like seeing my homie manskin. He had contest to it, 355 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: like he like bro it w has be reading the 356 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: dictionary all type of shit, like I go to Google 357 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: and just try to learn new words before I start rapping. 358 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: And I feel like that make it like it just 359 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: elevated where it's like you're not rapping about the same shit. 360 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: You knowe what I'm saying. Can't nobody really teach you that? 361 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: Butter MC, like the real MC for real, you know 362 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So yeah, shout out the big bro man. 363 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: I got a lot of love for coming. 364 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: For sure. 365 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: You did a you did a song with Kanye, but 366 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it came out how many times Kanye. 367 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Kanye is known for making guys redo their verse over 368 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and over and over. Rose told the story that he 369 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: had had him do a verse. He said, what you 370 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: made hard but he said, hey, Rolls, I know you 371 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: go harder than that. 372 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that to me for sure. He made 373 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: me redo my verse about three times for sure on 374 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: that one record. I think I did two records for 375 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Kanye that didn't come out. I pulled up on him 376 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: in the studio and I say, like, so basically like 377 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: how he record or work on certain projects, like it's 378 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: just lib mics. Had all us in here right now, 379 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: everybody just doing caduses rapping saying shit is lab mics. 380 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: So it's so much going on that shit kind of 381 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: like got confusing, right you feel me? I'm like, I 382 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: ain't never seen it before. He freestyle and he asks 383 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: me like I hit some say faux bars eight bars, 384 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, I tried, but I don't 385 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: even know like what we're basically rapping on. It's then 386 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: the a cappella all types of shit. So I ended 387 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: up getting the song. He like, man, I'm gonna just 388 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: sing you it, and I want you to record your 389 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: verse to it. So I recorded my verse in like 390 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: New York cent it back told me to redo it again, 391 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: like change so much stuff, and I said that The 392 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: final verse that I sent though, was like super fire, 393 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: like hard, hard hard. I wish I could really like 394 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: call him and just get the shit, like you don't 395 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: even gotta be on it, give me my verse, and 396 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna redo that shit and put it out right now, 397 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying, Like that's one of the 398 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: hardest verses. 399 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I spent for sure, though. Man. 400 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: One thing I learned in this business though, like when 401 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: you do stuff and it might not work out or 402 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 3: come out, like, you can't really take it personal, right. 403 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: I didn't like fault. Kanye had nothing like that. I 404 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: feel like, damn, I did all this ship and he 405 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: ain't put the song out. Like I ain't really care. 406 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 3: I was just really grateful for the opportunity and grateful 407 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: to like be able to get in the studio with 408 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: him and just. 409 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: Get upset if they give them a track and they don't. 410 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: A lot of rappers get upset about that. 411 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, rappers getting raped, beefs about. 412 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: That type of yeah, hell yeah. 413 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: Niggas get mad about that shit for sure, Like when 414 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: you don't put them on the project or they pull 415 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: up on you and do shit. But it's all art, 416 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: it's all creativity, and a lot of times, for a 417 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: lot of artists, it'd be out of their hands. I 418 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't say that for me because I've always picked my 419 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: songs for every project, you know what I'm saying, or 420 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: majority of them, and then I'm I believe in like 421 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: constructive criticism, so my team around me might be like, no, 422 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: this is a better song this to hit this radio, 423 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: and I don't really I never really focused on like 424 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: radio records and stuff early on my career, so they 425 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: would have that input, but I would really do the 426 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: body of. 427 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: Work for real. 428 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: So but other artists who write who they team picked 429 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: the whole mixtape or album, and like they have no 430 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: input or they don't you know what I'm saying. 431 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: So it's like that happened a lot. 432 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: You know a lot of times people just don't make 433 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: the cut and artists that get mad, like they'll stuff 434 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: with you for real, you know what I'm saying. But 435 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: I never been that artist though, Like I always just 436 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: never took a person like, ah, yeah, it's cool, I 437 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: ain't really tripping. Like my first interaction with Kanye is 438 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: he talk walked up to me like, man, you gotta 439 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: like you gotta start like tripping with these niggas. You 440 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: gotta start dissing these nigga. Stop let niggas steal your 441 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: style and steal your flow. And on my head, I'm like, damn, 442 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: I ain't even know you really listen to me enough 443 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: for like you to say, r niggas, what are my flow? 444 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: Like what my flow is? 445 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: And then you hear somebody else's record be like, oh, 446 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: he using herbal flow, he using this shit. And that 447 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: was the first thing YA ever said to me, you 448 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's like that just made me 449 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: like kind of like, oh, y'all, fuck with you. 450 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: You told me. You know what I'm saying. 451 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: That was way before I did direct it's with him 452 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: or any of this ship, you know what I'm saying. 453 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: So when it didn't. 454 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: Make it though, I was really just mad that I 455 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: don't have the verse to use because back no, I 456 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: did not need to. I'm asking you right now, Yeah, 457 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: send me the verse, and I'm gonna put that ship 458 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: out for sure, like just my verse, because it was fire. 459 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: I was talking about, like Chicago ship, just a lot 460 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: of ship that was like near and dear to me. 461 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you want to tramp on his song 462 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: through the wire you want to rap over. 463 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: That, I wind up. I actually winded up doing it. 464 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: I did it for my project Greatest Rapper Alive. But 465 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: I was always scared of that simple though, like because 466 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: it's just like that's one of the hardest songs ever 467 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: to me in general, you know what I'm saying, And 468 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: then me being from Chicago and it being yea and 469 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: being that simple, Like some things you just don't want 470 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: to run up on because the Internet gonna troll you. 471 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, her, you know what's coming if you don't 472 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: do it right. 473 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: Man, he could levet that alone. Yeah, So certain ones 474 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: I don't really run up on. 475 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: But at that time I had a lot of like 476 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: pain in me, like built w motion. 477 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: My pops had just died. 478 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: I was talking about, Like you know, I felt like 479 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: I didn't I couldn't rap on that unless I had 480 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: something or that was like super like pain driven like 481 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: how he did what I'm saying from him getting into 482 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: that correct almost losing his life. 483 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: He wrapped about almost losing. 484 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: His life, you know what I'm saying, Like I came 485 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: from a perspective of me rapping about the stuff that 486 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm enduring at this moment and being successful and I 487 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. 488 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: They the fans definitely. 489 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna put you on the spot, give me 490 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: your four best Mott Rushmore Chicago rappers. 491 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: Uh, I ain't gonna clude myself though, I'm gonna do 492 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: Sosa Juice World yay, and I'm gonna do Smirk. And 493 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: I could, I could like explain it. I didn't really 494 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: include myself because I don't really like including myself like that, 495 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: even though I do feel like I'm on a lot 496 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: of people's Mount Rushmore, you know what I'm saying, But 497 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about me personally, like and that gotta 498 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: do it like influence and what you did right for 499 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: the music and like the music industry coming out of Chicago. 500 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: So it's like, gotta go Juice real because he just 501 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: he did something phenomenal. 502 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: That nobody really ever did for real. 503 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: And then Sosa because just like the impact that he 504 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: had on us in Chicago in the world and so 505 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: young doing it like Sosa is still one of my 506 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: favorite artists still regardless of you know what I'm saying, 507 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: then ya, that's undeniable. And then Smirk is just what 508 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: I mind him the most about Dirt is he always 509 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: been like me watching from the very beginning. He always 510 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: been somebody that like, through all adversity of any trials 511 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: and tribulations, he's always been able to overcome that shit 512 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 3: and reinvent himself, like I've seen him reinvent himself so 513 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: many times and just become one of the biggest artists 514 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: in the world. You feel me like that's one thing 515 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: that I admired the most about Dirt, Like outside of 516 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: his talent, you feel what I'm saying like, that's what 517 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: really make him to go to me because where you 518 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: come from, where we come from and been through the 519 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: stuff that we've been through, is like it's easy to 520 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: give up. It's easy to be like, man, I'm finna 521 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: just keep trying like he has, switch it all the 522 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: way up and master that, and then if that don't work, 523 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 3: switch it up and just keep elevating. You feel me 524 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: like that's like a super power to me. 525 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: You compared Juice for World Death to tupacing Big and 526 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: for your generation. Why because. 527 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: All of the lives that he influenced while he was here. 528 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying like he was somebody that. 529 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 3: He was like a real global superstar mogul for like 530 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: the the kids that were like misunderstood and the loss 531 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: and the hopeless and stuff like that. Like you know 532 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, He gave people like reason to want 533 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: to live, like people who contemplated suicide and stuff like that. 534 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Those were the people that his music touched. 535 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: And when his life was cut so short, it devastated 536 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: so many people. 537 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 538 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: It devastated a generation of kids. You know what I'm saying, 539 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: the same way being in Tupac devastated a generation of people. 540 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't trying to 541 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: like and people kind of like took that the wrong way. 542 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to say, like he was as big 543 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: as big as Tupac, Like you know what I'm saying, 544 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: Like he done as much as big and Toopar, I'm 545 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: talking about the effect that they hit on a whole 546 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: generation of people. Whereas like his music forever live on, 547 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: and when people die, like poshumans music poshumans, it always 548 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: like go up, become big. 549 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: But like his is. 550 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: Ten years, twenty years, thirty years from now, like it's 551 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: still gonna be here. 552 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. 553 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 3: That's what I meant by that, like, because the people 554 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: who loved him so much, if they was ten years 555 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: old or whatever, when they turned forty years old, those 556 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: songs gonna still touch them the exact same way that 557 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: he did because they gonna remember his legacy. Like, that's 558 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: what I meant by that. 559 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: When you got the word that he had tragically passed 560 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: away from an actleute. 561 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: On the overuse. 562 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in LA at the time, and I 563 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: think my girl called me. My girl called me first 564 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: and told me, and I got mad at him. I'm like, man, 565 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: what the like, what are you talking about? You're like 566 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: juice world just passed away. I'm like, man, he's tripping 567 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: and just hung up. Like when like I be in 568 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: disbelief when I write in that type of shit, I 569 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: don't it just it throw me for. 570 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: Because it's hard when people that you know, people that 571 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: you know noth He not supposed to die at twenties. 572 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: In the twenties and in the thirties, that's not supposed 573 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: to happen. Were supposed to be like seventy five eighty 574 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: years old. Well such and such had a heart attack 575 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: and such a you don't expect somebody. 576 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: He he was so like he had reached like the 577 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: height of like so much success. Yeah you know what 578 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 579 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: And I feel like he was just reaching his peak, 580 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 3: like it was his birthday. I think he died six 581 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: days after his birthday and something like that. You feel me, 582 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: It's like that was my little brother. So it really 583 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: like it messed me up mentally, you feel me. And 584 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: he died on December eighth, I believe, and were supposed 585 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: to shot a video on eleven, so I was on 586 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: my way to him, feel like for the me and 587 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: MI Chicago, and it's just like that shit just threw 588 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: me all the way off when I got the information 589 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: and like just him being like just he like he 590 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: was just like a good ass kid bro, like for real, 591 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: Like even the way he died, like you riches juice, 592 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: like you rich as a you get pulled over by 593 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: the police and you swallowed fifty pills? 594 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: Forty pills? How the fuck many pills he swallowed? 595 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Because he's scared, like you was gonna overcome that shit, 596 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: the little pills. They ain't give a fuck about that shit. 597 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: Bro through that shit. 598 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that shit sit on the counter, 599 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: like come get it, like Bro, I got fifty million. 600 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: I ain't finna go to jail for these little dumb 601 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: ass pills right here, Like you feel me? Like it 602 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: just lets you know, like how pure he was, Like 603 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: you feel I'm saying he didn't know no better, Like 604 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, you know the term like 605 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: God forgive fools and babies that type. Like he was 606 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: just like super naive to ship. You feel what I'm saying, 607 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: And like that's what me up the most, Cause it's like, Bro, 608 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: you ain't even have to do that. 609 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: R That shit wasn't about nothing. 610 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: You've told the story a few times about how you 611 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: had a substance aut problem. You mentioned, i think earlier 612 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: in the interview that you was fifteen you started taking 613 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: pills and he started, you know, smoking weed. You know 614 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: obviously you know you talked about how you graduated the 615 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: lean and so you went there twice. Yeah, how different? 616 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: How difficult is it to come to the realization, M 617 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I got a damn problem man. 618 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it become like your party or lifestyle. 619 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: For real, Like so you couldn't function without it. 620 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't function without it, Like I had to drink 621 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: lane every day. 622 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 2: I had to pop pills. 623 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: I had to do this shit to eat food to 624 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: like I I say a lot of times like I 625 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: used to really be in rooms and I wasn't there 626 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: because mentally my brain is somewhere else. I'm high, I'm 627 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: thinking about shit. I I'm grieving, like just thinking about trauma. 628 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: Where it's like I'm just maneuvering through the room. I 629 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: might say, what's something, introduce myself, but it might be 630 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: somebody that I probably should have had a conversation with, 631 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: right but I couldn't do it because my mind is 632 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: somewhere else cause I'm altering my brain with these drugs. 633 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: I'm thinking I needed shit to function. But it's really 634 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: like you masking something. It's making a masking something. You 635 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: feel like I can't even be in the moment because 636 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: what's that saying. Like when you live in the past, 637 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: it's grief, and when we live in the future, it's anxiety. 638 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm never in the moment, Like I'm thinking about 639 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: before I get in this room, what's gonna happen, Yeah, 640 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna play out. You feel me instead of just 641 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: enjoying the moment, And I became that person for like 642 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: so many years. 643 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: You feel me like I. 644 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: Used to have to like take Zan's and perks and 645 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: shit just to go to sleep, like I said, like 646 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: I steal right now to this day, I haven't saw yet. 647 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't sleep. I've been like that since the kids, 648 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 3: since fifteen years old. You feel me like, and I 649 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: used to drink a lot of it. It don't make 650 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: it no better when you got money. 651 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: Right for Yeah, because you've got access to it. You 652 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: got access to it, you feel I'm saying. 653 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: So it's like I'm going through pints and pints a 654 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: lane and going through one hundred pills a month. 655 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: Yea like that? 656 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah for real was bad, like a hundred a month. 657 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm popping four five pills a day. You feel what 658 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like probably more than. 659 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Nothing, did you? 660 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Because you said you started like fifteen? Was it dealing 661 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: with the trauma that you saw? You saw your friends, 662 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: You saw your homies and they're losing their lives and 663 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: you're trying to mask that because. 664 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: You know kill and I feel it. Yes, Kim's not 665 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: supposed to have to deal with that. 666 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you don't want to feel it? 667 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Man? 668 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: You got like I was I was freshman in high school. 669 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: Still you know what I'm saying. I started experiencing all 670 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 3: this stuff. I'm taking these drugs to not feel emotions. Like, 671 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: as a human being, you're supposed to feel emotions. That's 672 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: the only way you go, That's the only way you're 673 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: gonna grow, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 674 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: I was trying to not feel stuff, and this is 675 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: what really like when I learned the fact that like, 676 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: all right, bet, yeah you might temporarily you might be. 677 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: High, but we wake up the next day that shit. 678 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: At some point it get worse, Like you wake up 679 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: the next day like damn, like I was tripping. 680 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. 681 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: You might get into a situation it's like all right, 682 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm goin to get I don't want to think about it. 683 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: Right when you wake up sober, it's still there, you 684 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 685 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: That situation that you tried to run from, Yeah, it's 686 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: right there. 687 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: It's still there. You know what I'm saying. I was 688 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: just like I didn't I didn't say I was going 689 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: to go to rehab. You feel I'm saying people close 690 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: to me, like my closest you know what I'm saying, 691 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: People that you trusted the most. They like, bro, you 692 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: just gotta go like you know, I had just had 693 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: a son. I just had my first son, and they like, bro, 694 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: you just gotta go to rehab. Like you know, you're 695 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: getting too high, Like you just you lashing out, you angry. 696 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, like you ain't listening to 697 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: nobody like that should make you angry as fun, it 698 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: make you real angry, like and I just I felt 699 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: like I was losing myself because at the time when 700 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: I first started, I was a regular dude, Like you 701 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: feel me, like I was becoming somebody. But now it's 702 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: like you're twenty two years old, you got a son, 703 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: You're a superstar, Like you can't just be out here 704 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: like like that. You feel me because at the end 705 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: of the day, when you think is normal, it's not 706 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: people judging you, people seeing you outside like he's high 707 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: all the time. It's like, you know, he's why would 708 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: I want to give you some money? Like why would 709 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: I want to count on you? Can I count on you? 710 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: Are you reliable? And I was just like, all right, 711 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try. 712 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. But I went, I got sober. 713 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: It was good and probably like a year a year 714 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: and a half later, one of my closest friends died 715 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: and I went right back. I just started back getting 716 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: hat like you know, that was like my escape, the. 717 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: Thing you right to. 718 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, Like, damn man, I'm stretched out, 719 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be around. It's a bit sad, crying. 720 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: I'm finna just get hats on, feel it, you know. 721 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: And I started back getting hailgh for about probably another year, 722 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: a year and a half, and I went again. Like 723 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: both times when I had to go to rehab, I 724 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: spent like thirty thousand or some shit to go. It 725 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: was like a seven eight day process. You get out, 726 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: they flush all of everything out your system. You on IVY, 727 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: so you don't got to go through the withdrawals. That's 728 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: another thing, like when you drink and lean and popping PILs. 729 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: And perks and all that shit draws. 730 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: It's worse than anything in the world. You don't even 731 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: want to feel it, you knowe what I'm saying. So 732 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: it's like that's another thing that people run from, like 733 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: you can't like regardless, you're gonna it's gonna come. 734 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: What comes. What happened in the watch come out in 735 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: the rest. You know what I'm saying. Every time you 736 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: feel me. 737 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: So it's like you might run from the withdrawals and 738 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: you might keep on doing this ship for have a 739 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: long and then it's gonna catch up to you when 740 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: you get older because your. 741 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: Body can't take that shit. So it's like it's best 742 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: to just if. 743 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Anybody when they put you up, when they put you, 744 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: when they put you behind that concrete wall. 745 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worst because they are doing no drugs 746 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: to get that happened with. 747 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: I've seen that though, Like I've seen that with my 748 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: own eyes, like getting the rest in the shit and 749 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: you was seeing like dope fiends and ship on the 750 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: floor shaking and using the bathroom on itself and all 751 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: that ship, Like that ship is real for real. 752 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: You speak very very highly of therapy. You say we 753 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: should do it. Trust me, that's someone that has gone 754 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: through therapy. You say someone is going through therapy. You 755 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: you need to do that. Uh, I don't know how 756 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: well you know. He said caught some criticism that he 757 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: would feel less than a man if his girl with 758 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: the therapist. 759 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: Girl was a therapy. I think what he like. 760 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 3: I can't really say what Slim meant by that, like 761 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: that's my brother. But I feel like Slam want of 762 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: them people like he a critical thinking too, yeah, and 763 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: he wanted people that like like to dig deep into 764 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: conversation like he feel like I think what he meant 765 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: by that is like he feels like his girl should 766 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: be able to trust. 767 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: And confide in him so much where it's like, you know. 768 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: And I don't know Slam ever tried therapy before, you 769 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: feel me, so he probably might not even understand what 770 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: it might do for a woman female. It's certain things 771 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: that a woman is just not gonna talk to a 772 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: man about, you feel I'm saying, like, no matter how 773 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: much y'all trust each other, you. 774 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: Know, because sometimes you won't. You won't someone that doesn't 775 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: have a dog in the fight exactly talking you talking 776 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Slam got a dog in the fight, yeah, yeah, and 777 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: someone that's win the therapist and as my therapist. And 778 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: I'll never forget one of the greatest things you ever 779 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: told me, herble, she said, She said, I mean she 780 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: sent across from me just like you. My girlfriend was 781 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: sitting right there. She said, mister Sharp, are you arguing 782 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: to be right? Are you arguing for right? 783 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: What did that do though like what I like? 784 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: She said, because at the end, right it is there 785 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: are you arguing to be right or you arguing for right? 786 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: I want to be right? This is how it was. 787 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: This is how it is, hey arguing for no right, 788 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: I want to be right. 789 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, once I. 790 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: Understood, it ain't me versus you, it's us versus the problem. 791 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: It's right versus wrong. That absolutely, she. 792 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: Said, Shannon, you you you communicating? You speaking, she said, 793 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: your girlfriend is speaking manner in Chinese. You speaking Spanish. Said, 794 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: either you learned each other's language or you're never going 795 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: to be able to communicate. 796 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 3: That's something I heard. 797 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: Be right, you're arguing for right now. 798 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: Ninety nine point nine us in the world argue to 799 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 3: be right, to be right, exactly. 800 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: And so when she explained it like that, and I 801 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: was one of those guys you know, grew up in 802 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: the South. 803 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: Man, we don't we don't have no emotions, and we 804 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: don't go talk to nobody. Problem. 805 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: You could talk to me, we could work it out. 806 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: But once she's like, but no, you got the best 807 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: of interest in this. Somebody needs to hear the problem 808 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't get the benefit from it. 809 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: And so when you share. 810 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: When your girl or your wife or whomever shared their 811 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: problem with someone, they just listening. Okay, somebody come in 812 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: and share that problem. They're just listening because me, I'm 813 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: on say, and that's why you have to keep family out, 814 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: because family they're gonna side with her boat. 815 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: You better side with me. Okay, i'ma turned the water off. 816 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: I say it absolutely, But. 817 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Being all honesty, my sister is the only person that 818 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: I've ever met that I can tell I would tell 819 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: us things, and you would. 820 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: Tell me I was wrong, and you gotta have people 821 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: like that. She would tell me, and I was like, 822 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, like I'm you know, I'm I'm She's like, Sha, you're. 823 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Wrong, and it it takes me to a place and 824 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: it helps me understand. But therapy, it took me a 825 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: while to understand because I was the exact same way. 826 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: But when that. 827 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: Lady told me she had enough, she said, mister Sharper, 828 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: you're arguing for it right or you're arguing to be right. 829 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 1: And she said about the communications mannery Chinese and Spanish. 830 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: I was like, man, communication is everything, Definitely it. 831 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Is, and it's just it's just and I'm not a 832 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: great communicator. I'll be the first of men. I'm a 833 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: withdraw so I'm just I just need space. I just 834 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk anymore. 835 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: I'm definitely the same way. 836 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 2: I just know what you're talking. I try to. 837 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: Avoid a lot of communication and confrontation. You right, I 838 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 3: don't want to take it all the way there. 839 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and give it to you. Right, 840 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: I was wrong? No, you just saying that. You don't 841 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: say what you want. See if I eMate my voice, 842 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: you go to why you doing that? I just said 843 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: you was right, I was wrong, but you don't mean it. 844 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm definitely the same way. 845 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 3: But I feel like when you have somebody like you said, 846 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: like you just gained a perfect like analysis. It's like 847 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 3: when you don't have a dog in a fight. Yes, 848 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: you need to have somebody that really could be able 849 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: to say right is right, wrong is wrong? What I'm saying. 850 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: And that's what therapy does for you. And I was 851 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: never like the type of person that felt comfortable opening 852 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: up anyway, because, for one, I don't want nobody to 853 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: judge me too. 854 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't really want to feel my business exactly. I 855 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: don't want you my business. 856 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 3: I don't want to feel like certain emotions where it's 857 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: just like I don't want to relive a situation you 858 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: feel me like if I feel like I've you never 859 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: really moved past it. You just ball it up and 860 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 3: put it in the back pocket and you try to 861 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: run from reliving that situation. But sometimes you have to 862 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: in order to really like grow and being able to 863 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 3: deal with certain people because as humans, we have triggers. 864 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, for sure. 865 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: You don't know what trigger you you know what I'm saying. 866 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: So it's like you got to get over certain situations 867 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: because you might treat somebody who really good for you 868 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: are doing right value because you got a certain trigger 869 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 3: for something that you didn't live ten years ago. 870 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: You got to heal and they don't even know about 871 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 2: this situation, so they. 872 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: Wondering why you're so mean to me or why you 873 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: doing this or why you snap so quick when we 874 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: talk about this subject, and you never talked about that trigger. 875 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: So like I feel like that's what like therapy is doing. 876 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: Like help therapy will help you from bleeding on someone. 877 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 3: That didn't even cut you exactly exactly. 878 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: Because no matter where we go, how big we Yeah, 879 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: when you in a relationship, you dealing with that person's trauma, 880 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: be a childhood, be an adolescent, be it. At some 881 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: point you're gonna have to dress back whatever it is, 882 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: and you have an issue and you're gonna have to 883 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: dress that trauma. Man, if you don't get in the 884 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: dress the person that you care about the most or 885 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: that's with you at that point in. 886 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: Time, that's for gonna feel it for sure. 887 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: It's like I didn't really I ain't understand that early 888 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: on though, Like I used to try to be so 889 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: good at going outside and smiling, acting like I'm okay, 890 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 3: and like taking a masking the pain and just you 891 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like dealing with people because I 892 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: got to be an artist. I gotta take pictures, I 893 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 3: gotta do shows. Then when I come in the house, 894 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm releasing all that anger and it's just like it's 895 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: so I'm not being the right person that I should 896 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: be to my girl, to my mom yep, to my kids, 897 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: the people who closest to me, because I feel like 898 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: I'm comfortable here and it's like I'm angry, I'm pouting 899 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: around and the like what did I do? 900 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: You take it on on people? That's closer to you 901 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: that you always. 902 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: Do that, and I had to really like learn to 903 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 3: stop doing that, Like I ain't gonna let my girl. 904 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 3: Pops told me some of the really shit I ever 905 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: heard in my life. He like, Bro, I know you 906 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: deal with a lot of shit, but just remember whatever 907 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: you going, look at that doormat and leave that shit outside. Bro, 908 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: Like he told me that, and I so he told 909 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 3: me that probably four years ago. And I really think 910 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: like that, Like if I go in the house and 911 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm angry, I got an attitude like I try to 912 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: like take some time to like breathe because they don't 913 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 3: got nothing to do with that. 914 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you knowe what I'm saying, Like we take it 915 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: out on the people that we sometimes the closest chores 916 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: that we love the moth. 917 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he told me that, He like, Bro, I 918 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: know you, like I know you going through shit like 919 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 3: I know. And it had to be from conversations he 920 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: hadn't with her, you feel I'm saying, He like, bro, 921 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: just leave it at the front door, like you feel me, 922 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 3: Like if something happened when it's like all right, bet 923 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: she caused the problem or you know, like address it, 924 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: but like you can't go in there on defense mode, 925 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 3: whereas it's like you don't want to have certain conversations 926 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: or you upset because you didn't deal with this, this, this, 927 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 3: and this like at the door and lean back out, 928 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 3: pick it up and address the world with that energy 929 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: if you have to leave it at the door at 930 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 3: your house. 931 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: You've also worked with a little Dirk. How difficult to 932 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: see him going through the stitua that he's going through 933 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: right now. 934 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: That shit is is painful for sure, because I feel 935 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 3: like the whole situation with Dirk is like that shouldn't 936 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: happen to anybody in my opinion, like in this field 937 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: because you moving fast, you don't know like who the 938 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 3: trust or who doing Yeah, you can't be accountable for 939 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 3: other people, you know what I'm saying. Like you feel 940 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: me like and not even to speak on this situation 941 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: because it's still he going through it. But it's like 942 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 3: you can't be accountable for situation or what other people 943 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: have done or whatever. And you and a lot of 944 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: times when you get that big, people work over time 945 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 3: to try to pull you down and try to pull 946 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: you off of. 947 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: That mountain top. 948 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, And I feel like that's 949 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 3: what happened to smirk. You know what I'm saying is 950 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: like me still like I'm not even gonna be like 951 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: for real, for like I know I feel it, like 952 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: I feel it. I know he coming from under that shit, 953 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: Like I know for a fact that's not the end 954 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 3: of his story. Like he coming from under that shit. 955 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: You knowe what I'm saying. It's like a lot of 956 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: times you kind of it's I hate to say, but 957 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 3: like coming from where you come from, certain times, God 958 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 3: just like throw situations at you so you could be 959 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 3: able to see the plan field for what it's for, 960 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: like see who for you, who not for you? See 961 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: the people that's counting you out, and come back ten 962 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: times stronger. Like sometimes that shit just make you a 963 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 3: different type of animal, type of beasts were you were 964 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: just like hearing like damn anybody counting me out? You 965 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: think it's over for me, huh? And then when you 966 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 3: come out, it's just like you better than you ever been. 967 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: Like you fee what I'm saying, Like I know for 968 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 3: a fact that's what's gonna happen. 969 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: Listen, my Grandma, you say, boy, life of life will 970 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: give you a lesson until it teach you what you 971 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: need to know now to keep giving it to you. 972 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna you're gonna hate yeah, one way a number. Yeah, 973 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna learn. You don't learn this lesson that's being 974 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: taught and you but you're right. When you're around people, 975 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: you don't know any And the thing is the hardest 976 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: thing is to trust. And sometimes you trust the wrong people. 977 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: You put your trust in the wrong person, and it's 978 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: just ain't no coming back from let me ask you, yes, purchases. 979 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: You got some money that you say you get that 980 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: bread to have a bill, you gotta have a bell 981 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: at sixty You're like, Okay, what you do when you 982 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: first got your bread? 983 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: What you do? My first thing I did was I 984 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: bought my mama house. 985 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 3: I moved my mama out, uh Chicago, far away, and 986 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 3: like I started, like I ain't gonna lie just doing 987 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: dumb shit, buying cars, bad Jerry, like going to the 988 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 3: hood looking out fair body you feel I'm saying like 989 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 3: shit like that. Like when I was young, seventeen, like 990 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 3: I'm I was still outside on my block like all 991 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: the time, you feel me. 992 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: And you got bread like that and you're still outside. 993 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, still outside riding around through the neighborhood like I didn't. 994 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: I didn't really like lock in and fully focus on 995 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: my craft until I became like twenty two, twenty three 996 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 3: years old, like for real, real, I was still in 997 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 3: the hood and going through all types of silly ass shit. 998 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: You feel me like you. 999 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: Look back and how I was, like man, I squann 1000 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: some man, I squanned some damn good money on some polish. 1001 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like I feel like I wasted a 1002 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: lot of time where I really should have been like 1003 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: getting better. Like I feel like I feel like I 1004 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 3: would have twenty times more than I have now if 1005 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: I had that mentality early on, because I would get 1006 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 3: up and I wouldn't go to the studio, you know 1007 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I wouldn't go to the studio. 1008 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: I would go outside. 1009 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 3: I'd go shopping, go by clothes, go get high, right 1010 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: around my homies, nimb just doing shit like that, and 1011 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: go to the studio. When somebody called me to go 1012 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: to the studio. It wasn't my mand set, Like I 1013 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't wake up like I want to go to the studio. 1014 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 3: It would have to be for my manager and somebody 1015 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 3: would like, yeah, we got a studio book. I need 1016 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 3: you to do this, I need you to do that. 1017 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: Like my mandset was never on music. It was just 1018 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 3: on being in the streets. I woke up and wanted 1019 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: to be in the streets like every day. So the 1020 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: purchases are limitless, like I was bad all the type 1021 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: of like this car. I used to back cars and 1022 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: I was just so young and fried. I had money, 1023 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 3: like I could have built my credit up. I never 1024 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: wanted to put a car on my name, like I 1025 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 3: used to just tell people like, yeah, go get me 1026 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 3: a car any way. You can't, like I'll just pay 1027 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 3: you and I lose the car impounded and never go 1028 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: get it back, go git another car, like what? Because 1029 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 3: I was so fried, I'm like, I don't want to 1030 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 3: call my name ship anything happened, it's my fucker. 1031 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: Don't need to be in my name. When you building 1032 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: credit like that, though I didn't know nothing about no credit, 1033 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: ain't nobody tell me. 1034 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: Like I'm glad when talked abou credit, because I credit 1035 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: would tell like I have a four hundred credit without it. 1036 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: So I happen to tell you when you started getting 1037 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 3: the money your credit was like yeah, But when I 1038 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 3: got some of the ship quick. 1039 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: Now be your g When I got, when I got, 1040 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: when I when I I was in the league. 1041 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: Man, I couldn't even have to get a call signer 1042 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 2: to get a car. 1043 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: Really yeah, but that's because we don't get taught about 1044 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: credit though. Ain't nobody tease nobody about credit. So it's 1045 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 3: like I am my mom and them like they knew 1046 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 3: about it, but I kind of like shut them out. 1047 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: You feel like my mom's and my pops. 1048 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: This is what I really regret though, Like when it 1049 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 3: come to family, I should have let my family in 1050 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 3: more because they had my best interest, and I was 1051 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 3: like shutting them out because I felt like, man, y'all 1052 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 3: don't know what y'all talk about. 1053 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: Y'all ain't never had no money, like you know what 1054 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, and I really should have listened. 1055 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 3: My pops was trying to tell me to like build 1056 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: your credit, go through this back building like I was. 1057 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: I ran through like six cars in one year, like 1058 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: bad Porsche crash and do something bad beings by this 1059 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: bay Jag like ship like that. 1060 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: Just damn stupid. You got kids? Now, what type of 1061 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: day are you trying to be? 1062 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: What? 1063 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: What type of what type of example, are you trying 1064 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: to set for your kids? 1065 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: For real? For real? I want to like just being 1066 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: a hunter, like being honest. 1067 00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: Bro. 1068 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: I just want to be a hundred with my kids. 1069 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: I just want to be honest and let them know, 1070 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 3: like the harsh realities of like the world, the stuff 1071 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: that I've been through to get to. 1072 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 2: Where I am. You feel what I'm saying, And. 1073 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 3: Especially with having a daughter, I want to let her 1074 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 3: know like nigaz ain't shit, Like you know what I'm saying, 1075 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: Nigaz ain't shit. You feel what I'm saying, Like I 1076 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: was this kind of man. Baby, you feel what I'm saying. 1077 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 3: Like you're gonna deal with this, like you're beautiful, You're 1078 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: gonna deal with this. You just understand. But make your 1079 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: own decisions as a woman, Yeah, what you want to do, 1080 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 3: but know right from wrong, know what's right, know what 1081 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 3: a man's intentions is regardless, and then you make your 1082 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 3: decision based off of that. Like, especially for my daughter 1083 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 3: and for my sons, I want them to And I 1084 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: think a lot of people who like got money and 1085 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 3: made it out and have kids that's like born out 1086 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 3: of poverty think like this, Like I want my kids 1087 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 3: to know how I feel to work hard and earn something, 1088 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 3: yeah something, Just know how it feels to work hard 1089 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 3: and earn. And with my oldest son, I see it 1090 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 3: like he's very spoiled and privileged. So when I try 1091 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: to like be stern and discipline him, I feel like 1092 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 3: a conversation to go further than a whooping, Like I 1093 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 3: can't really hit him all the time when he's doing wrong, right, 1094 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 3: I gotta talk to him and tell him like, this 1095 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: is what you did, this is what I feel like 1096 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 3: you should have done, this is what happens if you keep. 1097 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 2: On going down this road. You know what I'm saying. 1098 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 3: And he only seven years old, So I gotta talk 1099 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 3: to him and have them kind of conversations like I 1100 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 3: want to be that dad where you like you could 1101 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 3: trust me, you feel me like and my father was 1102 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 3: and I get that from my father, but I didn't. 1103 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 3: I was naive while I felt like I shouldn't talk 1104 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,479 Speaker 3: to him. And I could have talked to my dad 1105 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 3: about anything I was going through and he wouldn't have 1106 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 3: judged me. He would have helped me, Like I was 1107 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: afraid because for a long time I feared my dad, 1108 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 3: you know, like it's I mean you're supposed to feel 1109 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: your parents, you know, but you should like respect them 1110 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 3: and feel comfortable enough for you control to him, Like 1111 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 3: I would lie to him before I tell him the 1112 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 3: truth because I was afraid of what he might think 1113 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 3: or what he might do. I don't want my kids 1114 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 3: to feel like they got a lot of me. I 1115 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 3: want my kids to feel like they could tell me 1116 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 3: the truth and I might be highly disappointed, you know 1117 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But you got to tell me the truth. 1118 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 3: And I didn't learn that about my dad until I 1119 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: became an adulte. When I became an adulte, me and 1120 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 3: my dad got real close, like we became best friends. 1121 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 3: But for years I didn't communicate with him about certain 1122 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: shit and he was right there like he was with 1123 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 3: my mom in the house with me, and I wouldn't 1124 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 3: tell him certain shit because it's like I feared him 1125 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 3: until I didn't, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1126 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 3: like got to a point where it's like, and I 1127 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 3: ain't scared you, No, I don't got to tell you shit, 1128 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 3: Like I don't want my kids to. 1129 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 2: Be like that with me. 1130 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: Why was it important for you to wait until you 1131 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: became financially stable before. 1132 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 2: You had kids. 1133 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was mandatory for me. I had to, 1134 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 3: Like I just felt like the stuff that I seen, 1135 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 3: like with my family and people around, like I wanted 1136 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 3: to be able to provide for my kids and be 1137 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 3: able to like do it comfortably. 1138 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 2: Right. 1139 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't see myself having a baby. And 1140 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm just still on knucklehead shit. 1141 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Can you or you a 1142 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: baby yourself baby? Yeah? Exactly. 1143 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 3: So it's like I didn't I knew, like you know 1144 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 3: how you get that gut feeling and intuition, like all. 1145 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 2: Right, it's cool, I could have a kid. 1146 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: Like you get to a point where like you get 1147 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 3: enough successful money, Like I could have a kid because 1148 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: I want to have a kid. I don't even gotta 1149 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: have to be with the mama if I don't want to. 1150 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, Like that was kind of 1151 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: like my mentality when I was growing up, Like you know, 1152 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 3: like I'm like, hell no, I ain't. I ain't having 1153 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: no kid right now because I don't want to deal 1154 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 3: with like no baby mama shit and not having a control. 1155 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 3: Where's like you know, when women get upset, they do 1156 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 3: spiteful stuff, especially when money evolved corrept saying, So, it's like, 1157 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 3: no matter what, I wanted to always be in a 1158 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: position where even if we not cool or on the 1159 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 3: best of terms or whatever, I could provide for you, 1160 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 3: because you the mother and my child to provide for 1161 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 3: my kid. Like I understood that because I've seen it 1162 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 3: so many times. I've seen my aunties crashing out and 1163 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 3: doing the worst of the worst because you mad about 1164 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 3: the smallest thing. 1165 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1166 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 3: That really could just be a conversation, and men the 1167 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 3: most frustrated when we broke. 1168 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like you. 1169 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 3: Don't want to talk, you don't want to have conversations, 1170 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 3: you don't want to do this, and you just be 1171 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,760 Speaker 3: like like you might neglect your kid, you might neglect 1172 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 3: your baby mama, or whatever the case, just because you're like, 1173 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 3: I need to go get some money. I don't even 1174 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 3: want to talk to you. So you miss it so much. 1175 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 3: It's like I never wanted to be that guy. 1176 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: Your son's on social media. Yeah, and he went viral 1177 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: because he said stop calling me. 1178 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 2: A yi in calling me a yi yeah yeah yeah. 1179 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: And I mean that had made me proud. 1180 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, n that made me super proud man. It's like 1181 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 3: my kid. He's he's really smart. Your sign is very 1182 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 3: very smart. He's very articulate like he and I don't 1183 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 3: even know what made him say that, you know what 1184 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's like because he look up to me, 1185 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, Like he look up to me, 1186 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 3: and he like read stuff like he know like I'm 1187 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 3: coming from the streets. 1188 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: I've been through certain stuff. 1189 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 3: And it's like he just was like, I don't want 1190 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: to be classified as no yn. 1191 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: You know, does he ask you about does he ask 1192 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: you about your upbringing? Does he ask you a little 1193 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: bit about what? 1194 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do? 1195 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 3: Like he asked me about like certain stuff like what 1196 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 3: I did to ever be arrested, right and if like 1197 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 3: like asked me about like my homies who passed away. 1198 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It like that, like what happened, 1199 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 3: what happened when you got shot? Because it's all public record, 1200 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 3: he could see it the internet. 1201 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: Now it's different, So what you got to protects different 1202 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: now for sure. 1203 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 3: Like you got to protect your key from that, and 1204 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 3: you gotta be so in front of it where it's 1205 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 3: like you don't make split decisions because it's gonna be 1206 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,479 Speaker 3: there forever, right, you knowee what I'm saying. So, yeah, 1207 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: he asked me certain stuff and I gotta tell him 1208 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 3: the truth. 1209 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 2: You'd go dig and read and find out. 1210 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 3: And I tell like, I had a conversation with him 1211 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 3: not too long, and I'm like, son, the streets is 1212 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 3: like it's bad like you you live a great life. 1213 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. Your dad is a millionaire, 1214 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 3: your mom a millionaire. You feel I'm saying, like you don't. 1215 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 3: You don't have to make the choices, make the choices 1216 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 3: that I made. You feel what I'm saying. Because he's 1217 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 3: still like he might go around like family members, my 1218 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 3: cousins on my mom on I'm sad, like. 1219 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 2: They still in the churches a little bit. You know 1220 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1221 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 3: I got to remind him, like you're not that kid something. 1222 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: When you want to live that lifestyle, it's only two 1223 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 3: things that come from it, death on jail, you know 1224 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like literally, and you have the opportunity 1225 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 3: to be everything you want to be anything you want 1226 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 3: to be, Like you're so smart, you know what I'm saying, 1227 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 3: Like you don't have to like because the internet, like 1228 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 3: he want to be around his cousins them, and they 1229 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 3: listen to like King Von and look your music. 1230 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: But y'all are not. 1231 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 3: That it's okay to listen to the music and enjoy it. 1232 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: You can enjoy music. Your dad a rap. 1233 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 3: Ye's cool, yes, but don't fall so deep into it 1234 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 3: where you want to like idolize it and be that yes, 1235 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 3: and be that you know. So I had to have 1236 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 3: that conversation with him, and his mom even called me, like, 1237 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with him when he think 1238 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 3: he like. 1239 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 2: Tough, you know what I'm saying. 1240 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 3: You know, She's like, you ain't tough, but was living 1241 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: in a penthouse up here, Like you know what I'm saying, 1242 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 3: Like you ain't never had a tough day in your life. So, 1243 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 3: like I had to have these conversations with him, you know, 1244 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 3: and then it's like my son is a regular kid, 1245 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 3: but he is celebrity. So everybody like boost them up 1246 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: and let him get away with it, Like yeah, your sign, 1247 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 3: it's cute to them, you know what I'm saying. It's 1248 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 3: like it's cool when you seven, but then when you 1249 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 3: get seventeen, problem you think it's you know what I'm saying. 1250 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 3: So I had those common stations with him where he 1251 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 3: know for sure like, nah, that's not what we're doing. 1252 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 2: Like coparative, you make it work. I mean, thank god, 1253 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 2: how you able to do that for me? Man, I'm 1254 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. 1255 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 3: It's like I always just with women, you gotta be 1256 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 3: able to forgive, Like you know what I'm saying. You 1257 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 3: gotta be able to forgive, and you gotta be able 1258 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 3: to hold yourself accountable to when you do wrong, for sure, exactly. 1259 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: So it's like, but that's how we operate. That's not 1260 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: how I want to talk about what you did. Don't 1261 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: worry about what I did. We're talking about that later. 1262 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: We could be twenty other. 1263 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So like with me, I just I promise. Bro. 1264 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 3: I always like feel like, man, it's gonna be all right, 1265 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,959 Speaker 3: like should have get greater later, Like whenever I'm going 1266 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 3: through shit with my girl, even at home or always 1267 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,720 Speaker 3: going through shild my baby mama. Yeah, I just always 1268 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 3: was able to like forgive, and sometimes my girls get 1269 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: mad at me, like you just forgive her all the time. 1270 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, no matter what she doings. 1271 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: Like, I don't really take it personal because it's like 1272 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 3: I know, for a fact, I'm not going like, no, 1273 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say I don't take it personal. 1274 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 2: I took a lot of shit personal when you're young 1275 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 2: and you and you're young, so. 1276 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know, for the love of my son, 1277 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 3: I can't hate you. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1278 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 3: I feel like that'll make me a bad dad. It's 1279 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 3: certain people who really like start hating they babe mama. 1280 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: So now it kind of like they dictate how you 1281 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: parents your child. Correct, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1282 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 3: I never wanted to be that guy. 1283 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: And guess what that situation want to ever change? Always 1284 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: be the mother. So whether you see he's. 1285 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 2: Six months, he's six, sixteen thirty six, god she Yeah. 1286 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 3: And I never wanted my son to grow up and 1287 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 3: be like to see y'all greet in my mama bad 1288 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: you feel me like? So that was always something that 1289 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 3: like I just was like, man, I got the short 1290 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 3: end of the stick, A law a lot, a lot, 1291 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 3: just just trying to be like man, I just I 1292 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 3: just want this ship to work somehow, you know what 1293 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Because it's like you, my woman, I love you. 1294 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying this My son, mom, you 1295 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying. 1296 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have love for them regardless, you know, because 1297 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 3: it's my son. Mom, and I love my son unconditionally 1298 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 3: and I have to no matter what. Like even if 1299 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm upset my son. 1300 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 2: He's smart as ship. 1301 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 3: I could be mad. Me and Mama probably was arguing 1302 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 3: and some ship. And then it's like when I pick 1303 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 3: him up, I don't want to like. 1304 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 2: Energy around. 1305 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, hey, what's up, get my son 1306 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 3: getting the car? You feel what I'm saying, like ship 1307 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 3: like that. So it's like I always was able to 1308 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 3: just like. 1309 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: A fan on the road, a fan called a disagreement. 1310 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: You seeing what's happened with one of your kids in 1311 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: the car? 1312 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just my yeah, yeah, no, you know, it's 1313 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 3: so crazy. It was recently like right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1314 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 3: yeah yeah. So this situation, me and her wasn't arguing. 1315 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 3: She was frustrated because actually me and my security him 1316 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 3: right there, I was. 1317 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: Arguing with this guy, right, me and him. 1318 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 3: So it was like a situation when he was in 1319 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 3: the club and I had like words with a security 1320 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 3: guard and just telling him like man, move around, get 1321 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 3: away from me. And I think he did something that 1322 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 3: offended my girl, like you know, and I was like 1323 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 3: telling him, like you feel what I'm saying, telling him 1324 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 3: like he did something that offended her, and he was 1325 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 3: like kind of like my security was just like all right, cool, 1326 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 3: well I know him, Like he was like, I'm trying 1327 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 3: to tell her to explain this story, like explaining that 1328 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 3: he was like talking back to me. So me and him, 1329 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 3: just me and my we like this like brothers. So 1330 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 3: it's like we had those heated arguments. And when I'm 1331 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,959 Speaker 3: when I'm on ten, I'm on ten, I can't really like. 1332 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm already on ten. 1333 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: So my window was down and Tyana kept telling me 1334 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: like let your window now, I mean, let your window up. 1335 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 3: You argue, somebody's gonna catch you. Somebody's like she know 1336 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 3: like she don't she don't play that shit. She don't 1337 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 3: want to go viral. She don't want no type of 1338 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 3: nothing like you knowe what I'm saying. She telling me like, 1339 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: let your end know up, somebody's going to record you 1340 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 3: arguing because it's fans walking out. I'm not listening to her. 1341 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 3: I didn't care. Man, I'm already we already, we already 1342 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: heed it. I'm like, man, with all that. So when 1343 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 3: the girl walked up, she just catched me arguing. But 1344 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 3: she catched Tyina like with an attitude to like telling 1345 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 3: me like let your window up on steady telling you 1346 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 3: let your window up? And she see the girl recording, 1347 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 3: So they thought I was arguing with her, but I 1348 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 3: never was arguing her. 1349 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: I was arguing with security women. 1350 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: Cardi B said, it's more lap do you see a 1351 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: woman to go after a man in a relationship as 1352 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: opposed to a man going after a woman in a relationship. 1353 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,479 Speaker 2: So, like, I don't really get what she meant by. 1354 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: That, she said, Women like I say, if a guy's 1355 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: in a relationship, it's more likely that a woman would 1356 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: approach a man knowing he's in a relationship, as opposed 1357 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: to a man knowing a woman is in a relationship 1358 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: would approach her. 1359 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: I believe you agree that. Yeah, I agree with that. 1360 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: I think I do too. I agree with her. Hey 1361 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 2: you'll do you? 1362 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Hey? 1363 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: How you doing? I got a man? What you tell 1364 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 2: me you got a man? 1365 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm good? Yeah, you can't have no friends? Yeah, none 1366 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: of that. You told me you got a man. I'm 1367 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: cool with tackling. That's cool because I already know how 1368 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: men are men. Men might not even like that woman. Yeah, 1369 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: but let another man show interest in exactly. Now you 1370 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: got a problem. I don't want no problem, absolutely because 1371 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going about what she said. She said she 1372 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't have nobody, she got somebody. Yeah, well let me 1373 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: take that back. She might not have him, but he 1374 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: got her, right, So. 1375 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: It's still a problem for sure. 1376 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 3: And then it's like, well, women, I ain't understand it 1377 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 3: early on, you know, because I was I was raised 1378 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 3: by women for real. Yeah, so I understand that. I 1379 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: understand like women, Like I heard some real shit when 1380 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 3: I was young. Like women emotions are like like oceans. 1381 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 3: Like men say what they mean, women say what they. 1382 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Feel correct, you know. 1383 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 3: So it's like when you when you're dealing with a woman, 1384 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 3: especially if you in love with her, you love your 1385 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,919 Speaker 3: woman and you're doing right by her, women are trying 1386 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 3: to really come between it, you know what I'm saying, 1387 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: and really try to like, you know, just. 1388 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 2: Want what the next woman got, you know what I'm saying. 1389 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 3: Like I feel like men don't really do that, Like 1390 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 3: men don't really be like, oh yeah I want this 1391 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 3: because so and. 1392 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 2: So got it. 1393 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 3: They just they're like, that's not really in our nature, 1394 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 3: you feel me, So I definitely agree with her when 1395 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 3: she say that for sure, and then you're thinking about it, 1396 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 3: certain men would not like if you got sense, common 1397 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 3: sense like me and you guys like you know that 1398 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 3: certain men gonna go to the furthest extent about a woman. 1399 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 3: Like some of the biggest empires, some of the biggest 1400 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,919 Speaker 3: world the wars in the world started over a woman, 1401 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 3: you know. 1402 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 1403 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: So it's like, if you're not really willing to risk 1404 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 3: your life or risk your freedom and do certain shit 1405 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,959 Speaker 3: behind trying to pursue a woman, and you know that 1406 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 3: that's probably what come with it. It's like, nine times 1407 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 3: out of ten, most men just gonna wash their hands 1408 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 3: when they see it getting to a certain extent, you 1409 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. So women not like that though, 1410 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 3: When women feel that friction from a woman and they 1411 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 3: going back, they just keep going. 1412 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, it's the opposite, right, 1413 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I saw I saw this thing the other day. Let 1414 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: me know what you think. They said, Like, men would 1415 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: probably if a woman, if his girl, significant other, whatever 1416 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the case, may be cheated on him. If if friends 1417 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't know homeboys didn't find out, he would probably take 1418 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: her back, but it's when the homies and the friends 1419 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 1: find out. 1420 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't do it. 1421 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like nah, I can't. 1422 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. 1423 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: That's why you keep your stuff off the internet. That's 1424 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: why you keep people out of your business. You can 1425 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: work a lot of things out just you and her, 1426 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: for sure, but the moment, because if you date publicly, 1427 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: you gotta break up publicly. 1428 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 2: If everybody's in your business, then they know you date 1429 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 2: such and such. 1430 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: When you break up, everybody gonna be in your business 1431 01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: and know why you broke up. 1432 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 3: Nah, definitely, And like I feel like I definitely feel 1433 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 3: like that's true. 1434 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 2: It's like when if. 1435 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: You love somebody enough you can see past a lot 1436 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 3: of ship, you can work past it. You fee what 1437 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But then when you got a lot of 1438 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 3: people in your eat home. 1439 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: Boy, you know, I know you ain't gonna put over 1440 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: with that. 1441 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 2: I know. I've been knowing man, I know you forty years. 1442 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 2: That's tough. 1443 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: That's tough for sure, because it's like as a as 1444 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 3: a man, like you know, we possessive as well. 1445 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah that's man. Yeah know what I'm saying. This is man, 1446 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 2: So like. 1447 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 3: Even if your girl might have stepped out on you 1448 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,959 Speaker 3: or did certain ship, it's like you really deep down 1449 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 3: don't want to see her with nobody else. You feel 1450 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 3: me like you don't want to see her with nobody 1451 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 3: else but your pride of body let you like, all right, bey, 1452 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 3: you lose her and you might really live your whole 1453 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: life for great Like, yeah, it's the one I let 1454 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 3: get away, you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't 1455 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 3: seen that shit happen a lot of times, like with 1456 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 3: my uncles, like people and my family, I didn't see 1457 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 3: it happen a lot, you feel I'm saying. 1458 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: And I think my mom and dad like lasted and 1459 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 2: been and. 1460 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Getther thirty forty years because no matter what, my daddy 1461 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 3: was not letting my mama leave. I didn't seen my 1462 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 3: mama tried to leave my daddy a couple. 1463 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Of times, feeling she he wouldn't let they took that 1464 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: death do a part. 1465 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 3: You want to let it go, like I know for 1466 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 3: a fact my mom would have tried to leave my 1467 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: daddy at least three full time. Right? 1468 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Can men being polatonic relationship with with me? Can you 1469 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: have a best friend? That's what that's a woman. 1470 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 3: I believe, So I really believe you can for sure. 1471 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 3: It's just like certain men, like if you attracted to 1472 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 3: a woman, that's another thing. 1473 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 2: I think. That's what. Yeah, that's that's the problem. That's 1474 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 2: what make it frustrated. 1475 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 3: You can't be attracted to your best friend because y'all 1476 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: know too much about each other. One of y'all gonnadamn 1477 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 3: to try each other at some point, you know what 1478 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I definitely do feel like that though, 1479 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 3: Like you know, like I've seen it for sure, like 1480 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 3: I've never I think just because I was in the streets. 1481 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 3: I never like befriended a woman before because I just 1482 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 3: know like women's emotions. Like I just feel like I 1483 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 3: couldn't never really trust a woman unless I'm in an 1484 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 3: intimate relationship with them. I couldn't trust a woman to 1485 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 3: just be my friend and know shit about me. The 1486 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: only person that I open up to is my one woman. 1487 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 3: So are you coming up on thirty? 1488 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 4: Uh? 1489 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 3: They shape something else, man, I need something the bottle 1490 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 3: it's shade smooth man. Hey, y'all smooth as a motherfucker. 1491 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: So marriage in the future, I mean you, I mean 1492 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 1: you want more kids, you want a wife. 1493 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 3: That's That's where I'm at with life, like that's my 1494 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 3: next step. I'm finna get married, Like for real, I'm 1495 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 3: about to marry my woman. 1496 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: I think I was you go do that house? Yeah, yeah, hell, 1497 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm about to marry. And that was really just like. 1498 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 3: Just that elevation and like I was always that, I'm 1499 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 3: a critical thinker, Yeah, steps ahead. I didn't want to 1500 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 3: get married. I could afford a ring that it was 1501 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 3: three hundred thousand away and that's a million like ship 1502 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 3: like that. I was always on that type of time. 1503 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 3: I always envision myself to have that. You feel me, 1504 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: It's like I kind of cut my relationship short because 1505 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,919 Speaker 3: she didn't want She didn't even want that like need 1506 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 3: all that. 1507 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 2: That's what I was on, Like, right, that's what you wanted. 1508 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 3: Let me go get the money, do this and do 1509 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 3: that and get in the comfort through space where it's like. 1510 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,479 Speaker 1: All right, I could do it, you know, big waiting 1511 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: to go to press other people, you and your girl. 1512 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 3: And I wanted to impress others, but it was still 1513 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 3: like for her tuto, because when a woman feel like 1514 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 3: it's like you don't you don't get. 1515 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: To experience that again. You know what I'm saying, Like 1516 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 2: you only. 1517 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 3: Get one life, you only get one real dream wed 1518 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 3: and then ship like that. You feel what I'm saying, 1519 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 3: But like why I am right now though, like I'm 1520 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,959 Speaker 3: I definitely I can't wait to marry my girl. 1521 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: So that's soon. We talked. We talked about a year, 1522 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 2: two years, Yeah for sure. Yeah, ready to like you 1523 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 2: get on one knee right now, ready to go home? 1524 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 2: Drill Rap? Are you shocked at New York and you 1525 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 2: can't take it over? Drill Rerap? Honestly, I'm not. 1526 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest really because like I feel like 1527 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 3: Chicago kind of lost touch with Drill, like just the 1528 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 3: and what I mean by that is like the production, 1529 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 3: the sound, you know, like the up tempo ship. 1530 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 2: In Chicago, Drill it always was about like street ship. 1531 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1532 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 3: You're talking about gangster ship, but I think Chicago just 1533 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 3: got two gangsters. They just it ain't even like appealing 1534 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 3: like where Drill came out, that you could play that ship. 1535 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: It had turned the whole club up, like turn everything up. 1536 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 3: And when New York and the ukn't learn the master 1537 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 3: that they massive and started making hits from it. I 1538 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 3: haven't heard a real drill hit from Chicago that's undeniable 1539 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 3: and so long. Like yeah, the the young niggas they 1540 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 3: go up, they talk about street shit and shit. But 1541 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 3: it's like, I feel like we lost that touch of 1542 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 3: drill in New York and the UK, especially the UK 1543 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 3: still got it for sure. 1544 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,679 Speaker 2: Like it's kind of dying out a little. 1545 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,799 Speaker 3: Bit in New York, but in the UK one hundred percent, 1546 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 3: like they got it when it comes to the drill wave. 1547 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,560 Speaker 3: You knowe what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna get it 1548 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 3: to wat Tell one as one of the pioneers of 1549 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, drill rap, And I think 1550 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 3: that's only because you have to. No matter what you're 1551 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 3: rapping about, that shit gotta be catchy. Bro, they stay, 1552 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 3: they still making undeniable hits on the drill shoot. 1553 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like I'm a fan 1554 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 2: of it. I'll listen to it myself. 1555 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get you out of him this one. 1556 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: Tell us about the album and what made you choose 1557 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: the photo that you chose. 1558 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 2: I just wanted to like. 1559 01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 3: Go back and like remind the world of who I 1560 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 3: am like what it took to get here, like where 1561 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 3: I come from. 1562 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because I could really. 1563 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 3: Be dead on jail right now, you know, and I've 1564 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 3: done so much. And I had a conversation with my manager, 1565 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 3: what make you told me? Like, Bro, you don't really 1566 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 3: understand like how much legendary shit like you done, really did, 1567 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 3: Like you really like somebody that's influenced, that impacted so 1568 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 3: many lives and done so much, and you got so 1569 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 3: much to go. 1570 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you have, you still have. Your trajectory is 1571 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 2: so high. 1572 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 3: After you come a long way, long way, you got 1573 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 3: a long way to go, Like it's still looking good 1574 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 3: for you, you know what I'm saying. And when he 1575 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 3: said that, I just started like going back looking at 1576 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: my old videos, like looking at old interviews and like 1577 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 3: googling like my old pictures when I was a kid, 1578 01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 3: and I came across those mugshots and I'm like, I'm 1579 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,759 Speaker 3: gonna make this my album cover, you know what I'm saying, 1580 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 3: Like I wanted to like paint that picture and tell 1581 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 3: a story like I've been doing it at a high 1582 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 3: level kind of since I was a teenager. But at 1583 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 3: that time, I was really like I was up against 1584 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 3: a lot like that kid on that mugshot could not 1585 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 3: be here right now. You feel what I'm saying. And 1586 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 3: I wanted to like people to see the pain in 1587 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 3: my eyes, Like when I put the first announcement out 1588 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 3: my first mugshot, I was like eleven years old. Wow, 1589 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, Like I seen that picture, like 1590 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 3: I was a key. I looked like yo son going 1591 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 3: to gym. I couldn't picture me seeing my son with 1592 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 3: a mugshot. 1593 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1594 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 3: It's like that, just let you know what we was 1595 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 3: up against early on. 1596 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 2: You feel me. 1597 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 3: It could have went totally left, but I did it right, 1598 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,679 Speaker 3: like I went the right way. You feel what I'm saying. 1599 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 3: And that's what I wanted to like show the world 1600 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 3: because I'm always don't get me wrong. I got my 1601 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 3: core fan base to people who love and support me, 1602 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 3: but I'm trying to tell that story to the people 1603 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 3: who never heard me ever before, Like you never heard 1604 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 3: my name. So that's what I wanted to like, you know, 1605 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 3: because you might hear g herboing, all you can probably 1606 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 3: know is went legit right. You don't know nothing about 1607 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 3: walking the face O man. You don't know nothing about 1608 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 3: that kid that was fifteen, sixteen years old on the block, 1609 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 3: freestyling and made it from there to here. You feel 1610 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,719 Speaker 3: me so late, That's why I chose that picture for sure. 1611 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Go cop the album Little Herb here you Gerbo. 1612 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back 1613 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 4: the price, Want slice got the brother gap all my life. 1614 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 4: Be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all 1615 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 4: my life, sacrifice, hustle, bat the price, one slice got 1616 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 4: the brothers swap all my life. 1617 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,759 Speaker 2: I been grinding all my life.