WEBVTT - Honey: Nature's Wonder Sugar 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:13.480 Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.119 there's Chuck. Jerry's here barely and this is stuff you 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.520 should know. Well, we should explain what that means. It's 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:27.480 very ambiguous and strange sound. Jerry had a poor internet connection. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.200 It was a few minutes later. That's it. She's barely here. Yeah, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:35.599 mystery solved. Feel it feels tenuous too, that she's just 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.559 barely hanging on by her fingernails. Well, no, I think 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.480 I don't know. That internet connection just sounded dodgy, That's 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.440 what I'm saying. She came in like Houston, We're have 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:48.559 a problem. You know that internet connection sound all right? 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.000 Sounds like Apola thirteen. I'm pretty excited about this one. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.200 Me too. I even ate some honey for lunch today. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.320 I had a little dab at breck at brett Key, okay, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.520 which I don't usually eat, but I ate another toast 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.759 with a a spun honey spread. Good for you man. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.839 So spun honey? Are you talking about the creamed honey? 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.640 Is that what I'm hearing now? Yeah? Creamed spun or 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.360 I think there's one more word for it. But we 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.319 always called it spun honey growing up, and boy is 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.479 it good. And guess what it is just as helpful, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.959 has just as many helpful properties as regular honey doesn't. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.720 Spinning it or the process of getting into that state 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.360 doesn't change it at all. Yeah, it's like honey in 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.720 a different format. Like if you had a really great song, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:41.280 like um uh play that funky music white Boy, and 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.440 you had it on eight track, but you also had 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.679 it on record. It's the same song. It's just in 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.600 two different formats, right, yeah, same thing. Yeah, I like that. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.160 I really dislike that song though I really do too, actually, um, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.400 although I have a great memory of it. Um, I 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.880 guess sometimes around Piedmont Park it must have been St. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.360 Patrick's say this, Like car full of dudes came up. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.480 They were wearing like green wigs and everything. They were 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.400 ready to throw down for St. Patrick's Day, and they 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.160 were blaring that song and like everybody in the car 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.800 was singing it, having like the best time, and then 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.079 it totally was. And then as they got out of 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.880 the car, all of them are like just like looking 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.320 down the streets, still like going to the bar, and 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.760 one of them like stopped kind of and like turned 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.960 around and made eye contact with me. It was I 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.760 think he'll be embarrassed for the rest of his life 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.840 about that. I didn't even stare him down. He just 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.520 he initiated that embarrassing situation. So he you could tell 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.440 he felt some shame because you were just looking at 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.520 him a little bit and again not staring them down. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.799 You know, me, I'll stare somebody down, but not these guys. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.440 This was this was he initiated it. But hey, good 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.920 for them. I bet they had a blast. So honey, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.239 I think is what we were originally talking about, right, Yeah, 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.280 and the Grabster helped us with this one. And this 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:05.360 was my commission because Emily is very much into you know, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.800 she's gotten very much into her herbs and growing herbs 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.519 and natural remedies and things, and honey is a big 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.600 part of that. And although we are not bee keeping yet, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.440 that could be on the docket for us. I hope. So, man, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.560 I think bee keeping is one of the neatest things 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.600 you can do all but it's so relaxing. Yeah, she's 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.280 she's interested in it, and uh so that might happen. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.959 Tell me how it goes, because she doesn't I will Okay, yeah, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.760 I'll follow it. Um. We've actually done an entire episode 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.920 on bee keeping. H It was one of our best, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.560 if you ask me, certainly our most homespun episode by far. Um. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.480 So we're not going to talk too much about bee keeping, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.520 but you pretty much can't discuss honey without also talking 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.120 at least a little bit about bee keeping. It's so 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.960 bee keeping adjacent it would be weird to not mention it. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.920 But I just want to say, if you have not 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.000 heard our bee keeping episode, or you haven't heard it 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.960 in a while, go listen to it, because it's a 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.120 really really good app Do we do bees and be 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.720 bee keeping? Yes? Yeah, we've done bees beekeeping now honey. Yeah, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.520 and one of our TV show episodes was about bees. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:16.200 It was one of the sillier episodes. I think it was. Yeah, 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.880 that's probably what was silly. I think you had a 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.080 good eye for the absurd for that show. And I 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.440 mean that in a complimentary way. Oh I took it 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.080 that way. Okay. I love absurdist comedy and you nailed it. Um, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.719 So let's talk a little bit about Honey. Ed helped 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.880 us with this one. I think you just said and 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:37.880 I think he did about the best most clinical description 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:42.120 of honey that you could possibly come up with. Where's 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.000 that was that? Like his definition? Yeah, I mean he 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.839 talks about basically what honey is and how it's made. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.560 Oh so you're just saying start from take it from 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.040 the top basically. But I thought the way he did 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.960 it was like, here's here. It's totally unambiguous, completely understandable, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.240 and it's just a it's a good descriptor of honey 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.520 and how it's made. Yeah, this is this is good 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.240 stuff by the grabster. Uh So yeah, a bit of 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.159 a refresher though. But we all know that bees like 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.440 to fly around to different flowers and stick their face 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.280 in them and dance all over them and do kind 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:19.080 of fun things. Uh. And there is a sugary liquid 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.599 called nectar in flowering plants, and bees are wild about 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.960 the stuff for a lot of reasons. One reason is, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.240 like you know, sometimes they just drink it, Like they 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.520 want to save that stuff and what's called their crop 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.960 or their honey stomach to bring back to the hive. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.200 That's their main job. But when they're out there working 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.000 all day, they're also like, let me take a little 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.359 bit of this sweet stuff down for me. I wonder 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.680 if there's any bees out there seriously that have like 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.760 a bit of a problem with Yeah, it goes from 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.719 one for me, three for you, two, three for me, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.680 one for you kind of. I wonder if there's some 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.120 that like just kind of drink it more than others. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.120 There's gotta be sure. Yeah, so um yes, But for 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.960 the most part, when out there harvesting and foraging for nectar, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.760 they're using their crop a honey stomach which they can 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.560 store I think a thousand flowers worth of nectar in 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.920 that is a lot, a lot of nectar um, which 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.120 is weird because I saw that it can grow to 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.920 about a hundred times that size, So a hundred times 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.320 it's initial size. Holding a thousand flowers worth of nectar, 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.479 that's just a that's a very efficient um organ. And 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.400 it just sits there. It's not doing anything. It's not 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.440 digesting um. It's just basically for carrying back to the hive. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.800 By the way, I had the most amazing dad joke 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.920 that I failed to tell what it should I tell 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.159 it now. Of course when you said it just popped 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.800 into my head. That's why I that's why I know 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.839 that I'm just on the way down comedically. Well that 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.520 means the podcast is on the way down too. Oh yeah, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.440 for sure. Uh you were talking about the bees having 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.640 the problem with drinking too much honey. I said, well, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.200 you know, they could always just go to a B 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.479 B meeting. Boy, that was good. That wasn't bad. That 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.640 was a really good one. I don't know, all right, Well, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.760 I would love to hear from people terrible or borderline genius. Okay, Well, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.400 I'm registering the first vote, and I'm going to say 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.440 somewhere in the middle of those. I was about to say, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.400 there's no one between, but of course there is. All right, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.680 So you where'd you leave off with eating pollen? That 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.080 they take the nectar back to their their their nest 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.560 they're hot. Okay, Well, then I'll chime in here with 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:35.560 a pollen part. Bees are obviously accidentally transferring this pollen, 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.559 but you know, some of this pollen is getting eaten 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.520 and mixed in with that honey too, because they love it, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.520 because it's got protein and fat. And so what you 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.360 end up with when you go back to the hive 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.400 is a gut or crop or a honey stomach full 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.920 of this nectar, a little bit of pollen. There's probably 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.520 like just dust and things from the air, and they 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.360 start puking it up into each other. There's mouths chewing 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.640 on it, some puking it around, transferring it to one 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:09.760 another until it's ready for storage, right, which sounds gross 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.600 it is, But Ed makes a really good point here 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.240 that um, they're not actually it's not actually be vomit. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.800 Honey is not be vomit. And I've I've said that before, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.240 so I think I'm kind of being inadvertently taken to 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.960 task by Ed because again, oh yeah, definitely, I've said 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.040 that every chance I've ever had. But the again, the 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.760 the b crop, the honey crop, um is not um digesting. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.120 So what they're regurgitating is virtually the same thing that's 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:43.320 going in, so it's not really puke, it's just something else. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.600 But yes, they are transferring it from mouth to mouth, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.000 and as each bee takes another mouthful of nectar and 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.640 then passes it around, they're chewing it for a little bit, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.280 and one of the things they're doing is absorbing some 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:59.240 of the moisture inside. They're also mixing in their own enzymes, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.400 and what they're doing doing in that sense, they're they're 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.560 transforming nectar into honey. So honey is a mixture of 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:14.760 b enzymes, flower, nectar, pollen, and um that's dehydrated and 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.679 combines to form brand new compounds. And that's that's what 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.920 honey is. Yeah, and as we'll see there there can 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.040 be other things in there because it's nature and these 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.760 are sort of messy although beautiful processes, so as well 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.880 as you'll see when we talk about like completely raw 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.960 and filtered honey, there may be some be legs in 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.319 there and some other little beep, but there may be 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.480 a piece of a wing because you know, this is 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.080 just how things go out there in the wild. And 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.679 sometimes some bees have really bad days. Yes, that's when 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:50.000 they go to the bb meetings. So um, there's there's 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.440 another way that what we've been talking about is blossom 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.520 honey what most people think of when they think of honey. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.040 There's actually one other way to make honey. And do 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.720 you remember in our Aunt episode where ants are ranchers 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.440 of aphids and the aphids suck the juice out of 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.480 plants and produce honeydew. Well, bees go find that honeydew 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.400 in some cases and can actually make honey from the 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.680 sap of the stems leaves and like bark of trees 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.280 and other plants, and they basically harvest that like they 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.920 harvest nectar from flowers, and so there's a there's an 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.200 entirely different way to produce honey that comes straight from 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.800 the plant, not even from the flowers, and that's called honeydew. Honey, honeydew, honey. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.080 Have you ever had that? I don't think I have. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.120 I was looking it up to see like what some 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.719 types of honeydew honey are, and I couldn't find many, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:44.120 and nothing that I found sounded like anything I've had before. Okay, Uh, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.920 we should point out that not all bees produce honey. Obviously, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.480 there are a lot of different species of bees, and 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.600 we went over those in great detail in to be episode. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:59.280 But the honey bee is from the genus APIs, and uh, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.720 there are some other bees that do make make honey, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:07.120 But like the chief honey bee is the western honeybee. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.240 This is the the stud when it comes to making 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.960 great honey. This is the one we domesticated. This is 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.560 the one that makes so much honey. They have enough 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.040 for them, Uh, they have enough for us, and everybody 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.160 is happy, basically, which is one of the things I 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.120 love about beekeeping. It seems like one of the she's 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.520 a few things where we extract something from nature for 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.680 ourselves where there's enough to go around, and if you 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.240 do it in the right way, it's uh, it doesn't 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.280 harm the thing that that gave it to you. Yeah, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.720 that is kind of a beautiful thing about it. And 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.679 as we'll see, the fact that honey exists is kind 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.600 of miraculous. And that's just kind of like the cherry 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.679 on the top chuck, that we can harvest honey without 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.400 harming or um, the bees or taking some of their 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.520 head stash for us, Like they just make a little 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.440 extra for us. And when we can take that, I 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.360 think it's wonderful too. So yeah, you know, you mentioned 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.880 we have a whole episode on beekeeping, but um, as 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.040 a short refresher, this has been happening for a long time. 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.480 They were people were collecting honey, um, you know, in 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.000 the Mesolithic period, so they're like cave drawings that depict 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.480 this stuff. So we've always liked the honey as humans. Uh. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.880 And then you know, there's a belief that it may 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.240 have just like beekeeping, may have happened by accident when 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.520 a hive maybe set up in a jar or basket 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.120 or something that was outside at somebody's place and they went, hey, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.360 wait a minute, like this awesome honey is now in 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.600 this jar on my back porch. Like I wonder if 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.600 we could do this like intentionally and do it on purpose, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.480 and they kind of just started doing it. That's what 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.559 the thought is at least. Yeah, and they think that 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:56.600 originally maybe some of the earliest earliest artificial hives were um, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.720 some sort of clay pod or something that they were 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.120 purposed for that. Um. Sometimes maybe they came across the 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.920 hive and they're like, this is pretty firmly attached to 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.040 this stick. I'm just gonna take the whole stick home 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.280 with me farm it like that, you know. Um, Yeah, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.760 there's there's regardless. At some point, somebody probably just stumbled 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.480 upon this and then in very short order, um, it 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.880 started to spread. Um. They think that bee keeping at 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.280 least goes back, um about five thousand years ago. Um 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.800 there's evidence of it in Egypt, the Indus Valley, and Mesopotamia, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.440 and then China. About eight hundred years after that, evidence 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.640 of bee keeping uh starts up and you would guess 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.400 the people of China and the people of Mesopotamia may 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.079 not have been in contact at the same time or 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.560 at that time, So it's really possible that bee keeping 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:51.520 just kind of independently grew up or evolved in different 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.640 societies and cultures around the world independently. Yeah, and it 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.680 was something because you're using like clay jars and things 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.160 like you were saying you didn't need to forge metal 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.839 that wasn't super expensive. It was something that uh there 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.840 was a low barrier to entry, I guess is what 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.920 you would say these days. So and it was really 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.640 delicious and as we'll soon find out, super beneficial. So 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.640 it became a big deal. Yeah. Um. One of the 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:22.360 earliest artificial hives is still um pretty much the symbol 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.200 for a bee hive. If you look at any uh 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:30.560 a a Milan Winnie the Pooh illustrations. Yeah, um, like 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:34.280 it's called it's it's basically a cone, a basket e 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.400 cone turned upside down. So you take an ice cream cone, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.880 turn it upside down on the ice cream part, make 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.840 it kind of bubbly and there you go. That's a skep. Yeah, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.840 it's great. That's why where you get your beehive hair 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.760 do is named after these things, and you know, things 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.600 just advanced from there. Uh. And we'll talk a little 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.400 bit about that later, but I say we take a 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:59.160 break now and then talk about what's in honey and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.480 what makes it so good for us? It sounds good 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:36.720 learn it's stuff with Joshua John Okay. So the question 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.280 of what is in honey is very easy to answer 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.120 because it's almost all sugar. Uh. There is some water 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.600 in there, although you know, like we mentioned, part of 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:50.080 the process of getting uh to the honey state is 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.280 to remove as much moisture as possible, but you still 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.600 need some moisture. Um. So it's you know, something that 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.680 you can squirt out of a plastic bear sure, uh, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.680 which you can later make a bong out of. I 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.200 think most everyone that was in college when True Romance 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.280 came out probably tried that totally. And by the way, 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.160 so long sixth grade classes that were just listening to 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.160 this episode. Poor teacher who just ran to the front 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:23.880 of the class. Nothing, nothing, nothing, I'm sorry. What's a bong? Um? 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.200 Was that Ralph Wigham? It was? It was a pretty 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.080 good win. So it's mostly sugar, and it's believe it 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.800 or not, it's mostly simple sugar, fruit toast, and glucose. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.520 There are some complex sugars. But that's not to say 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.640 just because honey is mainly just sugar and simple sugar 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.640 that it's not complex, because it really is. It is 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.760 super complex. It's again, the word miraculous just keeps bringing 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.880 to mind, and I'm definitely not one of those intelligent 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.160 design people. I just think honey is something really special though, 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.360 and so like, yes, it does have the simple sugars, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.600 it has very complex sugars. Let me throw out a 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.640 couple of these names just to kind of blow your mind. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.920 There's malto pentaos. I didn't add the extra tea in there. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.280 I wanted to so bad. Galactose, that's an amazing name. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:18.400 There's also iso malto trios. These are not your average 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.240 everyday sugars like fruit, toast and glucose, both of which 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.719 are found in honey. But that's just the sugars. And again, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.720 the simple sugars combined with other enzymes and the bees 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.000 mouths to create these much more sophisticated sugars, some of 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.399 which have like actual protective health properties we found, But 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:41.960 that's just the sugars. There's also amino acids enzymes, polyphenols, flavonoids. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.520 And when you start looking at all of the different 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.040 things that pop up in honey that's in honey, and 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.880 you look at each one individually and you look them up, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.119 you will find that they do all sorts of amazing things. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.440 And when you put all of it together, you just 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.320 can't help but step back and say, honey is miraculous. Yeah, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.399 and let's have a spoonful. Yeah, exactly. That's the second 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.640 thought that follows uh it is. It has, in fact, 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.080 you mentioned amino acids. It has all nine all nine 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.200 essential amino acids, which are the ones that we need 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.760 that we don't make in our own body, so we 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.440 have to eat them. Um it is. And we'll get 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.280 to the healthy stuff in like twelve seconds. But we 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.240 do need to mention that one of the other great 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.680 things about honey is that it's I don't know about 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.119 last forever. Maybe I know they've pulled honey out of 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.960 like Egyptian tombs and reconstituted it to where it was fine, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.000 so maybe it does last forever. But it is acidic. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.960 It has antibacterial properties, so that means honey will last 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.440 you a long long time. And if you find an 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.320 old hard you know, lump of honey in a jar 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.600 in your house that you forgot about. You can probably 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.720 make that honey awesome again with very little effort. Yeah, supposedly, 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.800 what you do is you just throw it in that jar, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.960 and you take that jar and you put it in 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.600 like a bath of very hot tap water. Do not 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.760 heat it up on the stove. Just put it in 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.840 hot tap water and very slowly that that chunk of 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:12.120 honey will turn back into liquid gold a k A. Honey. Yeah, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.720 there's there's a lot of mixed messaging around um, honey 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:21.000 being toxic if it's heated beyond a certain point because 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.359 the you know, there there's ancient wisdom that says it 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.000 becomes toxic. Other people these days say now it doesn't. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.200 So I was like, you know, I mean, surely there's 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.240 a study about this, and I didn't really find one. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.080 I found one about lab rats and honey heated with gee, 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.399 but that wasn't only honey that sounds and has done it. 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.399 But I don't know if I just didn't have time 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.840 to find the study because it seems like a simple 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.120 enough thing to research, Like you heat the honey and 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:56.240 and feed it to a monkey, and see if it dies. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.320 So I'm kidding, by the way, but the thing is 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.400 chuck as you raised something that came up for me 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.399 later on, UM that I'll just put here, like the 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.920 stuff we do to animals is unconscionable. A hundred years 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.440 from now, our cohort is going to be looked at 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.040 as just so barbaric. And one of the things that 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.480 kind of raised my hackles was UM. As as we'll 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.399 see later on, one of the things they think honey 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:26.120 can help with is UM neurological disorders or mental imbalances 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.960 and UM. They test that stuff on rats and one 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.000 of the things they found was that UM in rats, 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.879 it recovers hopeless behavior, sorry, in mice that have undergone 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.080 restraints stress for twenty one days. And I was like, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.320 restraints stress doesn't sound very good. What is that? They 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.200 put the mouse in a tube where it can't move 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.520 any of its limbs or body or anything, and they 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.280 kept it there for twenty one days. And you think 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.960 being put in a tube as a human being for 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.760 twenty one days where you couldn't move, like I can 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.600 bear breathed, just saying that out loud, right, that's twenty 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.280 one human days. Imagine what twenty one days is in 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.480 the length of a mouse's life. And then, by the way, 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.080 after they studied the mouse after taking out the tube, 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.440 they probably killed it shortly after that, so that mouse's 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:20.240 entire life was spent under restraint stress in a tube. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.439 And this is just one of the myriad things that 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.800 we do to animals. And the more I just kind 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.920 of come across the stuff casually mentioned in this really dry, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.719 clinical tone and pure reviewed papers, the more I'm just like, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.480 this is, I don't know that we can justify this. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.879 And yes, we've come up with so many amazing things 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.960 to help humanity along, but I really think we should 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:44.840 be we should be allocating a significant amount of our 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:48.080 research efforts to figuring out how to not use animals 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.080 to come up with those same amazing breakthroughs, because it's 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:55.600 just wrong. It's cruel and wrong, and there's there's really 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.600 basically no justification for it in the greater scheme of things. 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:05.080 And that's my soapbox. I think that's your first soapbox moment. Oh, 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.479 it definitely is, now that you mentioned it. Sure, all right? 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:12.800 That means we're going to toast uh some tomorrow. That 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.560 is good for your body as well. H what's your 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.840 tomorrow that you like? Congratulate? You know, I got a 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.800 few of them. That's going to be a future, like 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.400 very near future topic, by the way, Okay, cool, I've 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:28.000 gotten very into tomorrow. Mine is Montenegro. Montenegro is is 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.720 so good and it's really good to mix cocktails with two. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.920 It sure is a little bourbon and to tomorrow you're 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.680 some rye and tomorrow. A little bit of that it'll fix. 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.000 It'll fix a mouse that's been in um restraints stress 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.439 for twenty and one days. Right up, some orange bitters, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.080 A little shake of that. Yeah, it's good stuff even 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.360 just also choked, by the way, just a little bit 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.680 of amorrow Montenegro, like I think it ounces of that 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.160 and some good seltzer is really good on its own too. 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.880 That's a digestive and a half. It definitely is. Yeah, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.359 that's great. Uh. You know what. Recently I went to 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.800 l A just for the day to see our friend 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:10.680 Ben Harrison and our our friend and uh booking agent 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.080 Josh Lingren and are my friend Adam Pranica. You'd love Adam. 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.359 You just haven't hung out with them much. But we 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.840 went to Musso and Frank and I'll just say this, 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:21.479 and I haven't been drinking much lately, but we had 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.960 a day and we're way too drunk to be and 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.920 Musso and Frank I could tell from your Instagram posts 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.840 from it. Yeah, it just looks really happy in this 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.960 great big meal and drinks and all this stuff at 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.480 one of the oldest restaurants in Hollywood. And at the 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.959 very end, Ben Harrison just shouts out, is that it. 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.120 We're like, yes, nothing else, and Ben went four tomorrows. 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.480 Oh yeah, so that's how we ended our meal. We're 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.639 just supposed to put a hangover, so let's not blow 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:56.480 all of our knowledge on tomorrow right here, Chuck j alright, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.360 So health qualities of honey is where we left off 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.200 ten minutes a. Uh. There are lots of health benefits 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.720 and there are lots of studies that back this up, 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.760 which is great. Um. There are medicinal uses that have 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.560 been academically studied and and verified. So this isn't like 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.800 you know, witchy hocum or woo woo stuff like that. 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.080 Honey is really really good for you. And we've known 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.359 this for a long time. And one of the things 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.400 that honey is great for is if you have allergies, uh, 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.560 if you. They did studies where they looked over the 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.439 course of a couple of months during allergy season, and 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:37.360 it had significant reductions in what's called rhinitis rhinitis, which 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.240 is you know stuff you know, sneezing, allergy, allergic sort 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.760 of qualities fear of. And this was like quite a 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.320 bit of honey. I think it was one gram of 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.960 honey per kilogram of body weight. A lot of funny, 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.879 it's a lot of honey, but it works, and you 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.119 know it's better than uh, some dumb allergy medication. So 0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.879 you remember our immunotherapy episode from very early on, we 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.440 talked a lot about eating honey to get over allergies, 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.760 and it totally makes sense because you're exposing yourself to 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.800 the local pollen. That's why people who say this actually 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.800 works to get yourself over allergies say it won't. It 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.320 won't work unless you are eating local honey, meaning like 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.359 within twenty or I think thirty miles of where you live, 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.600 because you're you're exposing yourself a little by little to 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.560 that pollen and your body' is like, oh this is 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.720 this stuff is not that bad. We won't give you 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.720 any more allergies. Yeah, And there's a lot of reasons 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.560 to eat local honey and eat locally period, not the 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.240 least of which is that's just how it was for 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.000 gazillion years. Uh what was near you because you couldn't 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.760 get anywhere else, and that's just sort of the better 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.280 way to eat. Yeah. I've really gotten into green grapes lately. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.600 They're just so good and they're so good for you. 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.399 Just always have like a bowl of them out. And 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:57.240 we just left grape season and this stuff that's out 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.399 now is just it's so bad. It's just like you're 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.679 put in your mouth and there's no like pop to it. 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.280 It just MUSHes, and I'm like, this is not any good. Yeah, 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.600 it is like an eyeball. It's really, it's like a 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.480 rotten eyeball basically. So I'm off a grape So I'm 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.920 trying to find a grape replacement until they come back 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.920 in season. Grape replacement is not a bad band name. 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.560 Actually it is a bad band name, But I could 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.600 see someone naming their band that. That seems like a 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:27.400 side project band name. Right. Uh, what about inflammation, that's 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.280 you know, inflammation We've talked a lot about. That's it's 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.919 not the root cause of every problem humans have, but 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.320 inflammation is one of the leading causes of a of 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.480 a lot of problems that humans have. Definitely, I think 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.959 we need to do an episode on that. Yeah, totally, 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.240 but yeah, I mean it's behind cardiovascular issues. Your blood 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:48.680 pressure might be high. Um, you might have gut problems, arthritis, 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.440 some types of cancer, and it's your body basically mounting 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.200 this immune response that is overblown and so you're suffering 0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:00.680 as a result, and it has all these terrible UM effect. Well, 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.480 the flavonoids that I mentioned UM are there's a ton 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.600 of flavonoids, like thirty different flavonoids found and basically all 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.480 types of honey, just to varying degrees depending on what 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.240 flowers it came from. And they are antioxidants. We've talked 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:19.280 about antioxidants um and whether or not they actually work 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.720 or not, the jury is still kind of out, but 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.919 there are some things that flavonoids do that are like 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.800 this is just demonstrably effective. One of the things they 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.960 do is go to the genes that produce inflammatory proteins 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.480 and say, nope, not today, you just you just rest easy, 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:40.119 stop making those things. So they block expression of inflammatory proteins. 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.840 That's just one of the things that you can find 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:48.120 in honey. Yeah, a pretty big one if you ask me, uh, 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.399 if you want, kind of one of the king Daddy's 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:55.160 of healthful honeys. You've probably heard of Manuka honey. Um. 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.600 It seems to have I don't know about exploded, but 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.640 it seems to have really garnered a lot more um 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.880 popularity and popularity, garnered popularity whatever, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:09.720 Sure in more recent years, partially because of marketing in 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.080 pr but partially because Manuka honey is really good for you. 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.880 This is a monofloral honey, which means, as as we'll 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.240 talk about a bit more later, that it comes from 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.600 a single flower as much as possible from New Zealand, 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.040 and it's got a pretty short period in which this 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.080 flower flowers, and that makes it a more rare honey. 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.639 That makes it more expensive, of course, but Manuka honey 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.640 kind of does all the things that honey does times, 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.640 you know, with a plus afterward. Yeah. Supposedly, the active 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:47.760 ingredient for Manuka honeys anti microbial properties is um methyl 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.800 glyoxyl um. It's a word as ugly as it sounds 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.120 spelled out, but it has about a hundred times the 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.440 amount that other types of honey have, and um, that's 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.800 one of the reasons why they're everybody is so bully 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.360 on manuka honey. I think the other reason is because 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.280 it is very rare. The manuka shrub grows in fairly remote, 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.120 isolated regions of New Zealand, so it's hard to get 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.640 and that means it's very expensive, so you can sell 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.160 it for a lot of money. So anything you can 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.680 say is minuka honey, you can kind of hype, but 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.960 there does seem to be some some actual like reality 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.880 behind the hype. Yeah, like there there are people who 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.320 do this and uh who just like take a spoonful 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.120 of minuka honey every day as if they're taking their 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.320 vitamins in the morning or something like that. For sure. 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.640 And there's another one that's kind of come up recently 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.960 that has been rivaling Menuka's too alloying honey. It grows 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.080 in Malaysia. The thing is, Manuka honey is a monofloral honey. 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.800 As we'll see, it's just made from the manuka, the 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.400 flowers of the minuka shrub. To allaying um is called 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.840 jungle honey, like it's just made from whatever is flowering 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.840 in Malaysia. But supposedly the flowers that are growing in 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.280 the jungles of Malaysia have a lot of them using 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.000 properties too. Because people are saying this to a laying 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.920 it's the hot new product and so long Manuka, you're 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.800 so over and done with. Yeah, jungle honey is a 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.760 good song title, yeah, for sure, or maybe I'm just 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.280 thinking jungle boogie. No jungle honey sounds good. You put 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.400 honey with any other word and it's gonna make it 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.800 more appealing. For sure. I love the word jungle. It's 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.760 one of my favorites. Yeah. You said earlier you were 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.959 starting your honeyfile, and I was like, you should call 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:32.480 all files your honeyfile. Maybe I will. Honey is also 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.320 good topically, Um, you can put honey, especially something like 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:41.440 manuka honey on a skin, knee or something like that. Uh, 0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.440 cuts any kind of stubborn wounds. Uh, it's gonna help 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.160 out with Um. They've done meta studies on putting honey 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.520 on topically and a lot of these were Uh it 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.280 seems like from studies on diabetic foot wounds. This is 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.920 what ED found. But you know, it healed faster, those 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:05.120 less inflammation. Apparently it can reduce nasty odors, and even 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.720 in diabetic foot wounds, helped reduce the need for amputation. Yeah. Um, 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.080 apparently that's with just about any honey you could use 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.440 for wound healing, not just manuka. I saw a paper 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.080 that said, actually you might not want to use menuka 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.480 because that methyl glyoxal is something that might actually prevent 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.760 um a diabetic foot ulcer from healing because it's so 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.360 potent it might actually like kill off like this the 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.720 new cells that are trying to form. But other honey 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.160 has been shown in is honey in general that it 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.880 actually does help heal diabetic foot ulcers in really any 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.200 kind of wound. But the reason they say diabetic ulcers 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.360 because they have so much trouble healing because there's so 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.080 little circulation being led to that wound site that it 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.600 just basically just persists. And if you slather some honey 0:31:55.600 --> 0:32:00.520 on there, you can say goodbye, stubborn wound. Goodbye. We 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.120 already talked about blood pressure some but we should note 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.120 that some of the studies have found that it reduces 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.520 hypertension and women and not men, and that's not to 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.520 say that it can't in men, but it's in you know, 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.600 Ed points this out very astutely that honey is just 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.040 there's a lot of studies and meta studies and things, 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:23.239 but you know, it's something that bees make in nature, uh, 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.800 and that humans collect, So they aren't always the most 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.800 consistent results when it comes to studies. And there's so 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.160 many varieties and so many kinds of bees and where 0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.600 they live and then the flowers that they're pollinating and 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.280 getting that nectar from that. It's uh, just because a 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.280 study says something, it doesn't mean like that's the end, 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.000 full stop. Yeah, one way or the other, Like didn't 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:50.120 find this property actually helpful or did? Yeah, there just 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.320 needs to be more studying that. Yes, they need to 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.440 refine the study of honey, which I think we're in 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.600 the in the midst of, like right now on this podcast, 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.200 we're helping move it along. I think what about cancer 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.320 cancer it's another one they think that um Basically there's 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.760 there's properties in honey that um create apoptosis, which is 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:17.040 programmed cell death, and that they help target cancer tumors 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.520 to um to go ahead and die, just die, die 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.680 die tumor um and that's basically how chemotherapy works in 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.880 a lot of ways. So, yes, it does seem to 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.480 have some sort of effect on cancer. I saw that. Um. 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.960 Not only has it has it been shown to work 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.840 in the lab, like in in cell lines of cancer cells, 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.720 but that it's it's had some clinical um results as well. 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.880 But apparently when they go after cancer cells there's something 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:50.320 that's called blebbing. And blebbing is where, um, a cell 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.480 gets pulled away like it's membrane gets pulled away from 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:59.400 the cytoskeleton, and there's like a bulge and at that point, um, 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.240 you have called blebbing, and that cell is in very 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:07.040 big trouble. So honey goes after to cancer cells, it 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.200 makes them bleb Well, you know how I knew it 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.040 would be something that makes you in trouble is that 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.200 it's called blebbing. Yeah, exactly. Can't that can't be good. No, 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.000 Oh my god, I'm blebbing. That's not a good No 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.200 one ever say oh, that's fantastic, good for you. Yeah, 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:28.759 high bleb Right. You mentioned neurological problems earlier a little bit. Um. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.600 Obviously this can be a whole host of things. But 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.560 they have found and this is another you know area 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.879 that there needs to be a lot more testing, but 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.960 the clinical trials have shown some pretty good results and 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:44.640 things like uh, you know, depression, dementia in any kind 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:49.480 of age related like mental neurological deterioration basically, but even 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.960 things like convulsions. Uh, they did there was one study 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.359 in some uh, some senior adults that where they had 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.600 a placebo control group which had a about greater incidents 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.720 of dementia than the group that took a daily tablespoon 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.960 of honey. That is astounding, that's huge. Yeah. Um, that's 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.839 the kind of study where it's like, no, that's the end. 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.560 Nobody else needs to do any more, researchers. Everybody eat 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.360 a tablespoon of honey, and that's actually that raises a 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.120 good question that a lot of people have. It's like, 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.040 wait a minute, honey is a sweetener. Yes, it's natural, 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.799 but it's got tons of sugar in it. So is 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.400 it really okay to eat a tablespoonful honey a day? 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:34.400 And the answer is in the West, especially um, you 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.280 you should, yes, go ahead and eat a tablespoonful honey 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.680 a day, but make sure that what you're doing is 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.760 exchanging the added sugars that you're eating in your diet normally. 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.440 For that tablespoon, don't just add it to your normal diet. 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.440 Figure out where you can cut down some sugar and 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.440 use honey instead. And yes, you will probably be much 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.319 better off of it long right, because sugar is really 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.799 not good for us at all. That's great. I think 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.719 we take our second break here, we come back and 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:04.319 we talk about honeycombs, grades of honey. We still got 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:05.719 a lot to go over, so let's get to it. 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:41.080 Learning stuff with Joshua John. Okay, Chuck, this suddenly turned 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.319 into a short stuff Go well, I mean we can 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.920 talk about the honeycomb briefly again. That's in our bee 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.799 keeping episode, in our b episode, um and with a 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:56.120 lot of detail. But uh, basically, you know this, the 0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.440 honeycomb is like that hexagonal cell structure that you see 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.160 inside the hive, uh, made of that wax that the 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.160 bees produce. Uh. And they you know, they make cells 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.720 for storing honey or for housing that queen and the brood. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.719 But the important thing as far as the honeycomb goes 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:18.040 is that humans came along as far as beekeeping is concerned, 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.640 and said, you know, let me let me build the 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.319 framing your house for you and you can come in 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:27.440 and add the detail. So we started making these, um, 0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.440 you know, what would you call it, like a form substrate, Oh, 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:36.360 look at you, which gives the bees a little bit 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.799 of a head start. Uh, And then you know the 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:43.080 honey is in there. They extract that honey in a centerfuge. Uh, 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:48.520 leaves that that honeycomb intact. Although you can get that 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.160 natural honey if you've seen it in the store with 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.799 that or maybe at a farmer's market, local farmer's market 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.480 with a honeycomb floating in that honey. Uh, you can. 0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.600 You can eat that stuff. It's wax. It's not gonna 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.319 hurt you. Yeah, train it probably makes you feel like 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.560 Martha Stewart or something. It makes my teeth feel gritty. 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.040 So I don't like it, but I do know that 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.799 it is edible for sure. Yeah. One of the things 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.680 I saw Chuck though, I was like, well wait a minute, 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.960 beekeepers are like making basically fully formed honeycombs for the 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.480 bees to to use. This is going to produce some soft, 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.520 lazy bees. But it turns out there's actually a really 0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.160 good reason to do this, and that is that with 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.920 bees produce their own wax. They have to eat honey 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:32.480 to produce the wax, and they they consume six pounds 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:36.040 of honey to make one pound of wax. So by 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.960 giving them the wax to begin with, you're saving all 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.160 of that extra honey. They're just gonna keep making that 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.200 honey and you're gonna get more for it. Yeah, I mean, 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.480 maybe that's one of the reasons we had that surplus. Probably, 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.879 I would think. So. Yeah, if you're if you're keeping 0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.319 bees and you're not giving them preformed bees, wax, bees 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:57.960 wax cells, you're a chump. Uh. There are lots of 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.200 different ways to rate or grade honey. We're gonna go 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.880 over a lot of those now, one of which is 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.360 how much it's processed. We talked about right out of 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.000 the hive. It's gonna have some some bead legs and 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.480 pieces of winging and some yeast in there, some bacteria, 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.520 some pollen, maybe some dust, some honey crystals. You know, 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.080 you generally want to I'm sure they're purists that just 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.799 love that stuff, but if you're selling it in a story, 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.520 you probably want to remove um some of that or 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.560 a lot of that, uh, to make it a food. Product. Uh. 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.920 The other reason why is because if there's something floating 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.160 in your honey, that just gives the honey a solid 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:42.480 thing in there to crystallize around. And generally the honey 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.000 buying public sees crystallization is like, uh, that I don't 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.759 want to buy that honey. I saw that. That was 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:52.480 mostly Americans that have an aversion to crystallized honey, and 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.920 it's because we think that it's gone bad somehow. And again, yeah, 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.560 all it is is like, yeah, there's been some crystallization 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.600 of the sugars and all have to do is put 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.880 in a nice tap water bath and it'll go back. 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.919 But yes, you can just totally eat crystallized honey. There's 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:10.360 no problem with it whatsoever. But because they know they're consumers, 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.840 honey producers are like, we've got to get the solids 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.799 out of there. Um. So basically, any honey you buy 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.920 in the United States is going to have at least 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:24.719 undergone macro filtering what the usc A called straining, and 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.600 what that produces is raw honey. It's just they're getting 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.600 out the biggest of the big solids. But then that's it. 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.760 There's no more filtration whatsoever, and it's it's raw honey, 0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.680 which is a bit of a misnomer because every honey, 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.759 uh type that isn't pasteurized, and pasteurized honey is just 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.280 one small subset. Every other type of honey is technically 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.319 raw honey. It's not been heated, there's nothing that's been 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.640 killed off in it. It's all still raw. But I 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.200 think what they're basically using the word raw for is 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:58.440 like rustic honey. Right, yeah, I agree. You mentioned pasteurization. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.759 We might as well talk about that. Uh. I looked 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.319 it up. I was like, why why would you past 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.560 your eyes honey? Because you typically think of pasteurization for 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.319 more of like a dairy product. Um, it's basically just 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.000 there is no reason to do it that I found, 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:17.560 other than making it look and like pour out of 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:22.680 the bottle or jar or whatever, um more freely. Um, 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.720 it's smoother apparently. Um, it's gonna alter the flavor obviously, 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.480 because you're heating this honey up. But that's that's the 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.000 only thing I found why you would pasteurized honey. Um. 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.040 I saw that. You know, honey has all these anti microbial, 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.600 anti viral properties. That doesn't mean there's no such thing 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:42.240 as bacteria in honey or there's no such thing as mold. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.160 Spores in honey, and mold in particular can cause honey 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.640 to ferment slightly. Again, nothing wrong with that, totally fine. 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.839 You basically have a free little mini shot of mead 0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.839 right there in your in your honey. But people don't 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.759 like that kind of thing, so I think pasteurizing it 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.920 kills off any of those potential microbes, are yeast or 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.680 old or anything. I'm at a hippie once in I 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.160 think West Virginia that made his own meat. I think 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.680 I might have told the story before, but he gave 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.640 me some meat. Yes, somebody mailed us meat years and 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.719 years and years ago. It's the only meat I've ever 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.680 had in my life. I'm not a fan. It was 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.359 it was fine. Yeah, It's not something I could drink 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.759 regularly or anything like that. But yeah, if I were 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.759 in West Virginia wearing nothing but a pair of overalls, 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.840 I could probably drink a little meat. This is a 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.960 nice guy, despite the fact that he was a fishman. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.080 I'm getting killed for knocking fish, by the way, Just 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:40.360 keep it up though it doesn't matter. Well, you know 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.040 what's funny is all the people that have written in 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.400 are trying to talk me into liking fish right there, Like, 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:46.879 surely you clearly haven't listened to fish and you don't 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.520 know what you're talking about. They do it. It's all 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.480 almost verbatim. It's funny. It's almost like that talking points 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.680 they shared. But I know fish fans wouldn't share talking points. 0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:01.440 It's not the fish way. Uh. Back to the filtering. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.920 We're jumping back to the other the U s d 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.600 A designation which is filtered honey, and that is basically 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.240 just more filtering. The filters are finer and it's gonna 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:16.000 remove almost all those solids that you're gonna see. Uh. 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.759 And it probably does require some heating because to get 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.560 through those filters, you gotta have it a little more 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.120 viscous or less viscous. Yeah, a little bit um. But 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.759 if you're ultra filtering, not only do you have to 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.600 warm it up, you combine it with a lot of 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:33.560 water because you're pushing it through not not quite reverse 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.239 Osmoses membranes, but something not too far off where it 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.200 is getting everything out of the honey. So much so 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.360 the U s d A says, this isn't honey. You 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.239 can't call it honey honey. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, so 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.399 there there's another way to basically achieve the same end 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:53.239 without blasting it through a um ultra filtered membrane, and 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:58.320 that's using diet tomaceous earth and dietms are fossilized microalgae 0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.879 with silica shells and this is the shells left over 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.399 UM and they are super tiny, but they pick up 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.319 even tinier particles. They are attracted to them. They get 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.920 stuck in the shells, and then you filter out the diatoms, 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.200 and then you've also filtered out the stuff even further, 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.319 so you don't have to use quite as fine a 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:21.320 filter because the diatoms have sucked up all the stuff 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.000 that would have passed through that filter. That's catching the 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.280 diet tooms. Does that make sense, Yeah, and it's pretty amazing. 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:32.000 You might remember toomacious earth from our cockroach episode because 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.040 that's the stuff that you can spread around that they 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.920 eat that kills them from the inside out. It also 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.400 drives fleas out too. If you have a fleat problem, 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.920 you can spread diet tomacious earth on your carpet in 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.640 it will help. Yeah, I've I've been through that. Uh. 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.920 We talked about spun honey already and just want to 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.320 reiterate that spun honey or creamed honey or whipped honey, 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.120 it's all the same thing, and it's still doesn't lose 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.320 any of those helpful properties. You can also rate honey 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.960 by a color, of course, Um, you know, honey has 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.320 a great range of color, and they you know, technically 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:09.560 it's called optical density. But would they use the fund 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.400 color scale? I think it's fund not really like Fister, 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.279 the fabulous faucet with a funny name. Yeah, but I 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.560 always say the Fister just because I think it's funny. Okay, well, 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.840 then yes, this would definitely be fun And this is 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.600 a scale from zero, which is water white all the 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.560 way to one fourteen and above, which is dark amber. 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.600 Very nice. Uh. And then what's the deal with organic honey? 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.480 So organic honey is a different type of classification. Any 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.960 of the stuff we've talked about, ultrafiltered, pasteurized, raw, microfiltered, creamed, 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.960 all of that stuff could also be organic honey basically, 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.759 as long as the organic techniques that the U s 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.320 d A requires were used to um create the honey, 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:55.680 and also on the plants that the bees are harvesting 0:45:56.400 --> 0:46:00.040 nectar from. That's right, So that's it. So from what 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.920 I can tell based on all this information, grade a 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:08.160 raw organic honey is probably top of the pops for anybody, 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:12.319 top of the pops. And then when it comes to flavors, Uh, 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.080 this is where we get into sort of the last 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:18.400 piece we mentioned monofloral. The other end of the spectrum 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.799 would be multifloral, and that is just simply what these 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.400 bees are flowering on, or what they're what kind of 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:29.360 flowers they're dancing with. If they're dancing with one flower 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.799 and you know, it points out bees or bees, so 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.000 it may be hard to make sure that's the only thing, 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:39.600 but they're very usually they are. If it's labeled monofloral honey, 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.200 that probably means that they have this farm has planted 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.919 a very very large area of one thing, so it's 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.560 really likely that the bee is eating almost all of that. 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.359 Or you can like the wild flore honey, it's just multiflorals, like, hey, 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.799 whatever is in the area, have at it. Uh. There 0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:01.399 can be different flavors, but it's not exactly like there 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.759 are notes of things. It's not like if you eat 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.560 orange blossom honey, it tastes like you scored to orange 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.880 in it, but there will be like notes of citrus 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:10.960 and things like that. I actually saw on a site 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.279 um of different types of honey that they warn you 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:17.440 that if your orange blossom honey smells like orange fragrance, 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.520 then you've got some sort of fake honey that it's 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.400 been counterfeit in some way. It's not like that, like 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.600 you said, it's notes, but orange blossom honey is citrusy notes. 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:31.400 Pumpkin blossom honey has pumpkinny notes. Um. I think sour 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:36.680 wood is herbal and woodsy or no, that's um, what 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:41.040 is that? Chuck Linden Linden Hunt herbal and woodsy. Eucalyptus 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.680 honey has like a slight mental note to it. Um 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.360 buckwheat honey. I don't think I've ever had it, but 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.560 it's almost like black in color. It's definitely the dark 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:55.040 amber side of the fun scale. Um. But it also 0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.880 has like kind of like a slight bitter note to 0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.480 it too. I want to try it. It sounds almost 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.120 like tortuous, but I would still try. I'll try basically 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.680 any honey at least once. Yeah, And they're all kinds 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.759 of great honey um, sort of like flavored honeys and 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.160 the honey is still in it, so it's still great 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.160 for you and delicious, but like bourbon honeys and like 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.319 uh sort of spicy chili pepper honey and stuff like that, 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.880 all sorts of delicious things out there. One of our 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:24.000 favorite things to do is go to the our local 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.480 farm co op and get that local honey. And you know, 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.160 it costs a little bit more, but like they're doing 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.400 the right thing and not like Will Ferrell and Lebron James. 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.080 Did you see that? Did they get into honey? They are. 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.160 Actually it's a pretty cool thing. They partnered, along with 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:45.000 some other celebrities with a company called Flamingo Estate, which 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:48.799 is listed here as an urban farm and lifestyle brand. Okay, 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:53.360 sells you know, all kinds of stuff, so urban straw hats, 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.239 but they serve curated farm boxes. But what they've done is, 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.680 I think they've gone to some of these celebrities who 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:03.040 have large properties and said, hey, how do you like 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.160 your own honey? We can make we can keep bees 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.680 on your property and it will be called Will Ferrell 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.120 honey and it will cost two hundred and fifty dollars 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:17.320 a jar, but it goes to charity. Okay, I pulled 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.200 it out at the end. There you know where they 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:23.120 should go is the magnum's estate. He has big avocado 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:28.000 um farms and apparently, yeah, and apparently avocado honey is 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:32.399 a thing too. Okay um. Interesting, Before we end this chuck, 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.839 if you'll indulge me, I just wanted to rattle off 0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.600 the properties that have been found among some of the 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.920 compounds that you find in honey. If you indulge me, 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:45.840 you're ready, m hm. That these compounds found in honey 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:52.440 are shown to possess these properties antibacterial, anti viral, antifungal, antioxidant, 0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:58.480 anti inflammatory, anti neo plastic, anti microbial, anti carcinogen, anti rhythmic, 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:06.520 anti leashman il, uh, anti thrombotic, anti mutesinogenic, mutagenic, anti 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:11.759 no susceptive, anti microbacterial, anti proliferative, and immune boosting properties, 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:17.080 not to mention that it's hypo cholester emic, cardioprotective, anti hypertensive, 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:25.919 hypato protective, hypoglycemic, and UH neuroprotective, nephroprotective, gastro protective, so on, 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.719 so forth, and it can improve sperm count and their 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:34.000 motility and protects against vaginal and uterine atrophy. Plus it 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:39.719 improves the normal estros cycle. Wow, and that amazing. Did 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:45.160 you see anti Christ in there? I think so. It's miraculous. 0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.120 But in like the reverse manner, are you got anything else? 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.840 I have nothing else. I don't either, and that means, 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:58.719 of course everybody's time for listener mail. I'm gonna make 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.400 this one very short because I just wanted to shout 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:08.480 out that we got a I got an email from well, 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.600 we got one from our old buddy Aaron Myzelle, who 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.040 helps hut up the stuff you should know five K. 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:20.160 I'm glad you. But Aaron, I think, was trying to 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:24.239 locate this English professor that taught my Shakespeare class. I 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.680 don't think she landed on it, but someone else did 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.520 and said was it Dr Vance? And I was like, oh, 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:32.839 it totally was. As soon as I heard the name, 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:38.759 I remembered and uh, I believe Aaron though, or now 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:40.879 I feel bad because I can't remember it was Aaron 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.719 or the other person who wrote in UM was still 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.520 in touch with Dr Vance got in touch with him 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.640 and said, hey, Chuck took your classes. You may have 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.560 even taken some classes from Vans who knows. Do you 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:56.400 remember me? No? I didn't Okay, um, you know, I 0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.160 guess I was an English major, so I was always 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:02.360 over there. But r vans Uh send in an email 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.440 which I haven't responded to, but I'm gonna do that today. 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.360 It said, Chuck can't tell you how honored I was 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.560 by remarks on the podcast. I thank you so very much. 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:17.600 Always well here, loving retirement, traveling grandchildren. And here's my 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.800 website in case you want to see what I've been publishing. 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.520 And I think everyone should go check it out. It's 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:27.520 a mystery, thrillers, literary horror, humorous romance, historical fiction, all 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.040 kinds of fun stuff and you can find all this 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.840 at author John Vance dot com. Very nice. That was short, 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.880 and Chuck appropriately sweet for this episode. Good stuff. That 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.719 was nice. Man. I got a pat on your head 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.759 from your old your old English teacher. He was the 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:45.520 best man, had a you know, one of the few 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:51.279 college professors who really impacted me, like Robin Williams. Yeah, 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:56.239 don't get that joke. You don't know from um oh 0:52:56.280 --> 0:53:00.120 dead boats. Okay, thank you for saying that, because I 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.560 was about to say, from oh captain, my captain. It's 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.480 ultra working title. So if you want to be like 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.680 Dr vance and let us know how retirements going for you. 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.600 You can wrap it up in an email spanking on 0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.480 the bottom and send it off to stuff podcast at 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.680 iHeart radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.080 production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts my heart Radio, 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.400 visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:27.760 listen to your favorite shows.