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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck. Jerry's here barely and this is stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know. Well, we should explain what that means. It's

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Speaker 1: very ambiguous and strange sound. Jerry had a poor internet connection.

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Speaker 1: It was a few minutes later. That's it. She's barely here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mystery solved. Feel it feels tenuous too, that she's just

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Speaker 1: barely hanging on by her fingernails. Well, no, I think

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That internet connection just sounded dodgy, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. She came in like Houston, We're have

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Speaker 1: a problem. You know that internet connection sound all right?

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Speaker 1: Sounds like Apola thirteen. I'm pretty excited about this one.

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Speaker 1: Me too. I even ate some honey for lunch today.

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Speaker 1: I had a little dab at breck at brett Key, okay,

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Speaker 1: which I don't usually eat, but I ate another toast

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Speaker 1: with a a spun honey spread. Good for you man.

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Speaker 1: So spun honey? Are you talking about the creamed honey?

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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing now? Yeah? Creamed spun or

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Speaker 1: I think there's one more word for it. But we

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Speaker 1: always called it spun honey growing up, and boy is

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Speaker 1: it good. And guess what it is just as helpful,

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Speaker 1: has just as many helpful properties as regular honey doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Spinning it or the process of getting into that state

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Speaker 1: doesn't change it at all. Yeah, it's like honey in

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Speaker 1: a different format. Like if you had a really great song,

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Speaker 1: like um uh play that funky music white Boy, and

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Speaker 1: you had it on eight track, but you also had

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Speaker 1: it on record. It's the same song. It's just in

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Speaker 1: two different formats, right, yeah, same thing. Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: I really dislike that song though I really do too, actually, um,

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Speaker 1: although I have a great memory of it. Um, I

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Speaker 1: guess sometimes around Piedmont Park it must have been St.

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Speaker 1: Patrick's say this, Like car full of dudes came up.

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Speaker 1: They were wearing like green wigs and everything. They were

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Speaker 1: ready to throw down for St. Patrick's Day, and they

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Speaker 1: were blaring that song and like everybody in the car

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Speaker 1: was singing it, having like the best time, and then

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Speaker 1: it totally was. And then as they got out of

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Speaker 1: the car, all of them are like just like looking

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Speaker 1: down the streets, still like going to the bar, and

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Speaker 1: one of them like stopped kind of and like turned

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Speaker 1: around and made eye contact with me. It was I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be embarrassed for the rest of his life

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Speaker 1: about that. I didn't even stare him down. He just

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Speaker 1: he initiated that embarrassing situation. So he you could tell

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Speaker 1: he felt some shame because you were just looking at

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Speaker 1: him a little bit and again not staring them down.

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Speaker 1: You know, me, I'll stare somebody down, but not these guys.

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Speaker 1: This was this was he initiated it. But hey, good

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Speaker 1: for them. I bet they had a blast. So honey,

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Speaker 1: I think is what we were originally talking about, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the Grabster helped us with this one. And this

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Speaker 1: was my commission because Emily is very much into you know,

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Speaker 1: she's gotten very much into her herbs and growing herbs

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Speaker 1: and natural remedies and things, and honey is a big

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Speaker 1: part of that. And although we are not bee keeping yet,

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Speaker 1: that could be on the docket for us. I hope. So, man,

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Speaker 1: I think bee keeping is one of the neatest things

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Speaker 1: you can do all but it's so relaxing. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: she's interested in it, and uh so that might happen.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how it goes, because she doesn't I will Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll follow it. Um. We've actually done an entire episode

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Speaker 1: on bee keeping. H It was one of our best,

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Speaker 1: if you ask me, certainly our most homespun episode by far. Um.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to talk too much about bee keeping,

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Speaker 1: but you pretty much can't discuss honey without also talking

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Speaker 1: at least a little bit about bee keeping. It's so

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Speaker 1: bee keeping adjacent it would be weird to not mention it.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to say, if you have not

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Speaker 1: heard our bee keeping episode, or you haven't heard it

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Speaker 1: in a while, go listen to it, because it's a

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Speaker 1: really really good app Do we do bees and be

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Speaker 1: bee keeping? Yes? Yeah, we've done bees beekeeping now honey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and one of our TV show episodes was about bees.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the sillier episodes. I think it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's probably what was silly. I think you had a

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Speaker 1: good eye for the absurd for that show. And I

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Speaker 1: that way. Okay. I love absurdist comedy and you nailed it. Um,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about Honey. Ed helped

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Speaker 1: Oh so you're just saying start from take it from

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Speaker 1: and it's just a it's a good descriptor of honey

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Speaker 1: stuff by the grabster. Uh So yeah, a bit of

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Speaker 1: a refresher though. But we all know that bees like

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Speaker 1: to fly around to different flowers and stick their face

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Speaker 1: called nectar in flowering plants, and bees are wild about

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Speaker 1: the stuff for a lot of reasons. One reason is,

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Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes they just drink it, Like they

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Speaker 1: want to save that stuff and what's called their crop

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Speaker 1: or their honey stomach to bring back to the hive.

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Speaker 1: That's their main job. But when they're out there working

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Speaker 1: all day, they're also like, let me take a little

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Speaker 1: the most part, when out there harvesting and foraging for nectar,

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Speaker 1: they're using their crop a honey stomach which they can

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Speaker 1: store I think a thousand flowers worth of nectar in

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Speaker 1: that is a lot, a lot of nectar um, which

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Speaker 1: it's initial size. Holding a thousand flowers worth of nectar,

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Speaker 1: that's just a that's a very efficient um organ. And

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Speaker 1: digesting um. It's just basically for carrying back to the hive.

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Speaker 1: that I'm just on the way down comedically. Well that

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Speaker 1: means the podcast is on the way down too. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Uh you were talking about the bees having

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear from people terrible or borderline genius. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of those. I was about to say,

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Speaker 1: So you where'd you leave off with eating pollen? That

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Speaker 1: they take the nectar back to their their their nest

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Speaker 1: a pollen part. Bees are obviously accidentally transferring this pollen,

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Speaker 1: the b crop, the honey crop, um is not um digesting.

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Speaker 1: So what they're regurgitating is virtually the same thing that's

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Speaker 1: transforming nectar into honey. So honey is a mixture of

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Speaker 1: the plant, not even from the flowers, and that's called honeydew. Honey, honeydew, honey.

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Speaker 1: and nothing that I found sounded like anything I've had before. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we should point out that not all bees produce honey. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we went over those in great detail in to be episode.

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Speaker 1: But the honey bee is from the genus APIs, and uh,

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Speaker 1: a few things where we extract something from nature for

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Speaker 1: as we'll see, the fact that honey exists is kind

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Speaker 1: Honey is really really good for you. And we've known

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Speaker 1: this for a long time. And one of the things

425
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Speaker 1: that honey is great for is if you have allergies, uh,

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Speaker 1: if you. They did studies where they looked over the

427
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: course of a couple of months during allergy season, and

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00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: it had significant reductions in what's called rhinitis rhinitis, which

429
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: is you know stuff you know, sneezing, allergy, allergic sort

430
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Speaker 1: of qualities fear of. And this was like quite a

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00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: bit of honey. I think it was one gram of

432
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: honey per kilogram of body weight. A lot of funny,

433
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: it's a lot of honey, but it works, and you

434
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: know it's better than uh, some dumb allergy medication. So

435
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: you remember our immunotherapy episode from very early on, we

436
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: talked a lot about eating honey to get over allergies,

437
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: and it totally makes sense because you're exposing yourself to

438
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: the local pollen. That's why people who say this actually

439
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: works to get yourself over allergies say it won't. It

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00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: won't work unless you are eating local honey, meaning like

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00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: within twenty or I think thirty miles of where you live,

442
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: because you're you're exposing yourself a little by little to

443
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: that pollen and your body' is like, oh this is

444
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: this stuff is not that bad. We won't give you

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00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: any more allergies. Yeah, And there's a lot of reasons

446
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: to eat local honey and eat locally period, not the

447
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: least of which is that's just how it was for

448
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: gazillion years. Uh what was near you because you couldn't

449
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: get anywhere else, and that's just sort of the better

450
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: way to eat. Yeah. I've really gotten into green grapes lately.

451
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: They're just so good and they're so good for you.

452
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: Just always have like a bowl of them out. And

453
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: we just left grape season and this stuff that's out

454
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: now is just it's so bad. It's just like you're

455
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: put in your mouth and there's no like pop to it.

456
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: It just MUSHes, and I'm like, this is not any good. Yeah,

457
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: it is like an eyeball. It's really, it's like a

458
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: rotten eyeball basically. So I'm off a grape So I'm

459
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: trying to find a grape replacement until they come back

460
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: in season. Grape replacement is not a bad band name.

461
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Actually it is a bad band name, But I could

462
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: see someone naming their band that. That seems like a

463
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: side project band name. Right. Uh, what about inflammation, that's

464
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, inflammation We've talked a lot about. That's it's

465
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: not the root cause of every problem humans have, but

466
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: inflammation is one of the leading causes of a of

467
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of problems that humans have. Definitely, I think

468
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: we need to do an episode on that. Yeah, totally,

469
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's behind cardiovascular issues. Your blood

470
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: pressure might be high. Um, you might have gut problems, arthritis,

471
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: some types of cancer, and it's your body basically mounting

472
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: this immune response that is overblown and so you're suffering

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Speaker 1: as a result, and it has all these terrible UM effect. Well,

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00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: the flavonoids that I mentioned UM are there's a ton

475
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: of flavonoids, like thirty different flavonoids found and basically all

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00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: types of honey, just to varying degrees depending on what

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Speaker 1: flowers it came from. And they are antioxidants. We've talked

478
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: about antioxidants um and whether or not they actually work

479
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: or not, the jury is still kind of out, but

480
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: there are some things that flavonoids do that are like

481
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: this is just demonstrably effective. One of the things they

482
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: do is go to the genes that produce inflammatory proteins

483
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: and say, nope, not today, you just you just rest easy,

484
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: stop making those things. So they block expression of inflammatory proteins.

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00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: That's just one of the things that you can find

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00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: in honey. Yeah, a pretty big one if you ask me, uh,

487
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: if you want, kind of one of the king Daddy's

488
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: of healthful honeys. You've probably heard of Manuka honey. Um.

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Speaker 1: It seems to have I don't know about exploded, but

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00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: it seems to have really garnered a lot more um

491
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: popularity and popularity, garnered popularity whatever, you know what I'm saying.

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00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Sure in more recent years, partially because of marketing in

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00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: pr but partially because Manuka honey is really good for you.

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Speaker 1: This is a monofloral honey, which means, as as we'll

495
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: talk about a bit more later, that it comes from

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00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: a single flower as much as possible from New Zealand,

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00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: and it's got a pretty short period in which this

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00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: flower flowers, and that makes it a more rare honey.

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: That makes it more expensive, of course, but Manuka honey

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00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of does all the things that honey does times,

501
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, with a plus afterward. Yeah. Supposedly, the active

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00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: ingredient for Manuka honeys anti microbial properties is um methyl

503
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: glyoxyl um. It's a word as ugly as it sounds

504
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: spelled out, but it has about a hundred times the

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00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: amount that other types of honey have, and um, that's

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're everybody is so bully

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00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: on manuka honey. I think the other reason is because

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00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: it is very rare. The manuka shrub grows in fairly remote,

509
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: isolated regions of New Zealand, so it's hard to get

510
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: and that means it's very expensive, so you can sell

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00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: it for a lot of money. So anything you can

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: say is minuka honey, you can kind of hype, but

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00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: there does seem to be some some actual like reality

514
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: behind the hype. Yeah, like there there are people who

515
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: do this and uh who just like take a spoonful

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00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: of minuka honey every day as if they're taking their

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00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: vitamins in the morning or something like that. For sure.

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00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: And there's another one that's kind of come up recently

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00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: that has been rivaling Menuka's too alloying honey. It grows

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00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: in Malaysia. The thing is, Manuka honey is a monofloral honey.

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00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: As we'll see, it's just made from the manuka, the

522
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: flowers of the minuka shrub. To allaying um is called

523
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: jungle honey, like it's just made from whatever is flowering

524
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: in Malaysia. But supposedly the flowers that are growing in

525
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the jungles of Malaysia have a lot of them using

526
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: properties too. Because people are saying this to a laying

527
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: it's the hot new product and so long Manuka, you're

528
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: so over and done with. Yeah, jungle honey is a

529
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: good song title, yeah, for sure, or maybe I'm just

530
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: thinking jungle boogie. No jungle honey sounds good. You put

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Speaker 1: honey with any other word and it's gonna make it

532
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: more appealing. For sure. I love the word jungle. It's

533
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Yeah. You said earlier you were

534
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: starting your honeyfile, and I was like, you should call

535
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: all files your honeyfile. Maybe I will. Honey is also

536
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: good topically, Um, you can put honey, especially something like

537
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: manuka honey on a skin, knee or something like that. Uh,

538
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: cuts any kind of stubborn wounds. Uh, it's gonna help

539
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: out with Um. They've done meta studies on putting honey

540
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: on topically and a lot of these were Uh it

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00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: seems like from studies on diabetic foot wounds. This is

542
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: what ED found. But you know, it healed faster, those

543
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: less inflammation. Apparently it can reduce nasty odors, and even

544
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: in diabetic foot wounds, helped reduce the need for amputation. Yeah. Um,

545
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: apparently that's with just about any honey you could use

546
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: for wound healing, not just manuka. I saw a paper

547
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: that said, actually you might not want to use menuka

548
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: because that methyl glyoxal is something that might actually prevent

549
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: um a diabetic foot ulcer from healing because it's so

550
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: potent it might actually like kill off like this the

551
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: new cells that are trying to form. But other honey

552
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: has been shown in is honey in general that it

553
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: actually does help heal diabetic foot ulcers in really any

554
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of wound. But the reason they say diabetic ulcers

555
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: because they have so much trouble healing because there's so

556
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: little circulation being led to that wound site that it

557
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: just basically just persists. And if you slather some honey

558
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: on there, you can say goodbye, stubborn wound. Goodbye. We

559
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: already talked about blood pressure some but we should note

560
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: that some of the studies have found that it reduces

561
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: hypertension and women and not men, and that's not to

562
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: say that it can't in men, but it's in you know,

563
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: Ed points this out very astutely that honey is just

564
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of studies and meta studies and things,

565
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: but you know, it's something that bees make in nature, uh,

566
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: and that humans collect, So they aren't always the most

567
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: consistent results when it comes to studies. And there's so

568
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: many varieties and so many kinds of bees and where

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: they live and then the flowers that they're pollinating and

570
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: getting that nectar from that. It's uh, just because a

571
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: study says something, it doesn't mean like that's the end,

572
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: full stop. Yeah, one way or the other, Like didn't

573
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: find this property actually helpful or did? Yeah, there just

574
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: needs to be more studying that. Yes, they need to

575
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: refine the study of honey, which I think we're in

576
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the in the midst of, like right now on this podcast,

577
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: we're helping move it along. I think what about cancer

578
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: cancer it's another one they think that um Basically there's

579
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: there's properties in honey that um create apoptosis, which is

580
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: programmed cell death, and that they help target cancer tumors

581
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: to um to go ahead and die, just die, die

582
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: die tumor um and that's basically how chemotherapy works in

583
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So, yes, it does seem to

584
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: have some sort of effect on cancer. I saw that. Um.

585
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Not only has it has it been shown to work

586
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: in the lab, like in in cell lines of cancer cells,

587
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: but that it's it's had some clinical um results as well.

588
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: But apparently when they go after cancer cells there's something

589
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: that's called blebbing. And blebbing is where, um, a cell

590
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: gets pulled away like it's membrane gets pulled away from

591
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: the cytoskeleton, and there's like a bulge and at that point, um,

592
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: you have called blebbing, and that cell is in very

593
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: big trouble. So honey goes after to cancer cells, it

594
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: makes them bleb Well, you know how I knew it

595
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: would be something that makes you in trouble is that

596
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: it's called blebbing. Yeah, exactly. Can't that can't be good. No,

597
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm blebbing. That's not a good No

598
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: one ever say oh, that's fantastic, good for you. Yeah,

599
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: high bleb Right. You mentioned neurological problems earlier a little bit. Um.

600
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: Obviously this can be a whole host of things. But

601
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: they have found and this is another you know area

602
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: that there needs to be a lot more testing, but

603
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: the clinical trials have shown some pretty good results and

604
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: things like uh, you know, depression, dementia in any kind

605
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: of age related like mental neurological deterioration basically, but even

606
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: things like convulsions. Uh, they did there was one study

607
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: in some uh, some senior adults that where they had

608
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: a placebo control group which had a about greater incidents

609
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: of dementia than the group that took a daily tablespoon

610
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: of honey. That is astounding, that's huge. Yeah. Um, that's

611
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: the kind of study where it's like, no, that's the end.

612
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Nobody else needs to do any more, researchers. Everybody eat

613
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: a tablespoon of honey, and that's actually that raises a

614
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: good question that a lot of people have. It's like,

615
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: wait a minute, honey is a sweetener. Yes, it's natural,

616
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: but it's got tons of sugar in it. So is

617
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: it really okay to eat a tablespoonful honey a day?

618
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: And the answer is in the West, especially um, you

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00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: you should, yes, go ahead and eat a tablespoonful honey

620
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: a day, but make sure that what you're doing is

621
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: exchanging the added sugars that you're eating in your diet normally.

622
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: For that tablespoon, don't just add it to your normal diet.

623
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: Figure out where you can cut down some sugar and

624
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: use honey instead. And yes, you will probably be much

625
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: better off of it long right, because sugar is really

626
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: not good for us at all. That's great. I think

627
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: we take our second break here, we come back and

628
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: we talk about honeycombs, grades of honey. We still got

629
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: a lot to go over, so let's get to it.

630
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Learning stuff with Joshua John. Okay, Chuck, this suddenly turned

631
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: into a short stuff Go well, I mean we can

632
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: talk about the honeycomb briefly again. That's in our bee

633
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: keeping episode, in our b episode, um and with a

634
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of detail. But uh, basically, you know this, the

635
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: honeycomb is like that hexagonal cell structure that you see

636
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: inside the hive, uh, made of that wax that the

637
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: bees produce. Uh. And they you know, they make cells

638
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: for storing honey or for housing that queen and the brood.

639
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: But the important thing as far as the honeycomb goes

640
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: is that humans came along as far as beekeeping is concerned,

641
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: and said, you know, let me let me build the

642
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: framing your house for you and you can come in

643
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: and add the detail. So we started making these, um,

644
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, what would you call it, like a form substrate, Oh,

645
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: look at you, which gives the bees a little bit

646
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: of a head start. Uh, And then you know the

647
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: honey is in there. They extract that honey in a centerfuge. Uh,

648
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: leaves that that honeycomb intact. Although you can get that

649
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: natural honey if you've seen it in the store with

650
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: that or maybe at a farmer's market, local farmer's market

651
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: with a honeycomb floating in that honey. Uh, you can.

652
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: You can eat that stuff. It's wax. It's not gonna

653
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: hurt you. Yeah, train it probably makes you feel like

654
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart or something. It makes my teeth feel gritty.

655
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: So I don't like it, but I do know that

656
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: it is edible for sure. Yeah. One of the things

657
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: I saw Chuck though, I was like, well wait a minute,

658
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: beekeepers are like making basically fully formed honeycombs for the

659
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: bees to to use. This is going to produce some soft,

660
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: lazy bees. But it turns out there's actually a really

661
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: good reason to do this, and that is that with

662
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: bees produce their own wax. They have to eat honey

663
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: to produce the wax, and they they consume six pounds

664
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: of honey to make one pound of wax. So by

665
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: giving them the wax to begin with, you're saving all

666
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: of that extra honey. They're just gonna keep making that

667
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: honey and you're gonna get more for it. Yeah, I mean,

668
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's one of the reasons we had that surplus. Probably,

669
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: I would think. So. Yeah, if you're if you're keeping

670
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: bees and you're not giving them preformed bees, wax, bees

671
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: wax cells, you're a chump. Uh. There are lots of

672
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: different ways to rate or grade honey. We're gonna go

673
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: over a lot of those now, one of which is

674
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: how much it's processed. We talked about right out of

675
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: the hive. It's gonna have some some bead legs and

676
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: pieces of winging and some yeast in there, some bacteria,

677
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: some pollen, maybe some dust, some honey crystals. You know,

678
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: you generally want to I'm sure they're purists that just

679
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: love that stuff, but if you're selling it in a story,

680
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: you probably want to remove um some of that or

681
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that, uh, to make it a food. Product. Uh.

682
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: The other reason why is because if there's something floating

683
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: in your honey, that just gives the honey a solid

684
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: thing in there to crystallize around. And generally the honey

685
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: buying public sees crystallization is like, uh, that I don't

686
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: want to buy that honey. I saw that. That was

687
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: mostly Americans that have an aversion to crystallized honey, and

688
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: it's because we think that it's gone bad somehow. And again, yeah,

689
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: all it is is like, yeah, there's been some crystallization

690
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: of the sugars and all have to do is put

691
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: in a nice tap water bath and it'll go back.

692
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: But yes, you can just totally eat crystallized honey. There's

693
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: no problem with it whatsoever. But because they know they're consumers,

694
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: honey producers are like, we've got to get the solids

695
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: out of there. Um. So basically, any honey you buy

696
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: in the United States is going to have at least

697
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: undergone macro filtering what the usc A called straining, and

698
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: what that produces is raw honey. It's just they're getting

699
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: out the biggest of the big solids. But then that's it.

700
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: There's no more filtration whatsoever, and it's it's raw honey,

701
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: which is a bit of a misnomer because every honey,

702
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: uh type that isn't pasteurized, and pasteurized honey is just

703
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: one small subset. Every other type of honey is technically

704
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: raw honey. It's not been heated, there's nothing that's been

705
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: killed off in it. It's all still raw. But I

706
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: think what they're basically using the word raw for is

707
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: like rustic honey. Right, yeah, I agree. You mentioned pasteurization.

708
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: We might as well talk about that. Uh. I looked

709
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: it up. I was like, why why would you past

710
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: your eyes honey? Because you typically think of pasteurization for

711
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: more of like a dairy product. Um, it's basically just

712
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: there is no reason to do it that I found,

713
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: other than making it look and like pour out of

714
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: the bottle or jar or whatever, um more freely. Um,

715
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: it's smoother apparently. Um, it's gonna alter the flavor obviously,

716
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: because you're heating this honey up. But that's that's the

717
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: only thing I found why you would pasteurized honey. Um.

718
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I saw that. You know, honey has all these anti microbial,

719
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: anti viral properties. That doesn't mean there's no such thing

720
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: as bacteria in honey or there's no such thing as mold.

721
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: Spores in honey, and mold in particular can cause honey

722
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: to ferment slightly. Again, nothing wrong with that, totally fine.

723
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: You basically have a free little mini shot of mead

724
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: right there in your in your honey. But people don't

725
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing, so I think pasteurizing it

726
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: kills off any of those potential microbes, are yeast or

727
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: old or anything. I'm at a hippie once in I

728
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: think West Virginia that made his own meat. I think

729
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I might have told the story before, but he gave

730
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: me some meat. Yes, somebody mailed us meat years and

731
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: years and years ago. It's the only meat I've ever

732
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: had in my life. I'm not a fan. It was

733
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: it was fine. Yeah, It's not something I could drink

734
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: regularly or anything like that. But yeah, if I were

735
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: in West Virginia wearing nothing but a pair of overalls,

736
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: I could probably drink a little meat. This is a

737
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: nice guy, despite the fact that he was a fishman.

738
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting killed for knocking fish, by the way, Just

739
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: keep it up though it doesn't matter. Well, you know

740
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: what's funny is all the people that have written in

741
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: are trying to talk me into liking fish right there, Like,

742
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: surely you clearly haven't listened to fish and you don't

743
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. They do it. It's all

744
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: almost verbatim. It's funny. It's almost like that talking points

745
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: they shared. But I know fish fans wouldn't share talking points.

746
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: It's not the fish way. Uh. Back to the filtering.

747
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: We're jumping back to the other the U s d

748
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: A designation which is filtered honey, and that is basically

749
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: just more filtering. The filters are finer and it's gonna

750
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: remove almost all those solids that you're gonna see. Uh.

751
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: And it probably does require some heating because to get

752
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: through those filters, you gotta have it a little more

753
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: viscous or less viscous. Yeah, a little bit um. But

754
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: if you're ultra filtering, not only do you have to

755
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: warm it up, you combine it with a lot of

756
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: water because you're pushing it through not not quite reverse

757
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: Osmoses membranes, but something not too far off where it

758
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: is getting everything out of the honey. So much so

759
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: the U s d A says, this isn't honey. You

760
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: can't call it honey honey. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, so

761
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: there there's another way to basically achieve the same end

762
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: without blasting it through a um ultra filtered membrane, and

763
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: that's using diet tomaceous earth and dietms are fossilized microalgae

764
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: with silica shells and this is the shells left over

765
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: UM and they are super tiny, but they pick up

766
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: even tinier particles. They are attracted to them. They get

767
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: stuck in the shells, and then you filter out the diatoms,

768
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: and then you've also filtered out the stuff even further,

769
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: so you don't have to use quite as fine a

770
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: filter because the diatoms have sucked up all the stuff

771
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: that would have passed through that filter. That's catching the

772
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: diet tooms. Does that make sense, Yeah, and it's pretty amazing.

773
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: You might remember toomacious earth from our cockroach episode because

774
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that you can spread around that they

775
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: eat that kills them from the inside out. It also

776
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: drives fleas out too. If you have a fleat problem,

777
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: you can spread diet tomacious earth on your carpet in

778
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: it will help. Yeah, I've I've been through that. Uh.

779
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: We talked about spun honey already and just want to

780
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: reiterate that spun honey or creamed honey or whipped honey,

781
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: it's all the same thing, and it's still doesn't lose

782
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: any of those helpful properties. You can also rate honey

783
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: by a color, of course, Um, you know, honey has

784
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: a great range of color, and they you know, technically

785
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: it's called optical density. But would they use the fund

786
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: color scale? I think it's fund not really like Fister,

787
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: the fabulous faucet with a funny name. Yeah, but I

788
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: always say the Fister just because I think it's funny. Okay, well,

789
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: then yes, this would definitely be fun And this is

790
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: a scale from zero, which is water white all the

791
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: way to one fourteen and above, which is dark amber.

792
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Very nice. Uh. And then what's the deal with organic honey?

793
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: So organic honey is a different type of classification. Any

794
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: of the stuff we've talked about, ultrafiltered, pasteurized, raw, microfiltered, creamed,

795
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: all of that stuff could also be organic honey basically,

796
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: as long as the organic techniques that the U s

797
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: d A requires were used to um create the honey,

798
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: and also on the plants that the bees are harvesting

799
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: nectar from. That's right, So that's it. So from what

800
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: I can tell based on all this information, grade a

801
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: raw organic honey is probably top of the pops for anybody,

802
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: top of the pops. And then when it comes to flavors, Uh,

803
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: this is where we get into sort of the last

804
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: piece we mentioned monofloral. The other end of the spectrum

805
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: would be multifloral, and that is just simply what these

806
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: bees are flowering on, or what they're what kind of

807
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: flowers they're dancing with. If they're dancing with one flower

808
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: and you know, it points out bees or bees, so

809
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: it may be hard to make sure that's the only thing,

810
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: but they're very usually they are. If it's labeled monofloral honey,

811
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: that probably means that they have this farm has planted

812
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: a very very large area of one thing, so it's

813
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: really likely that the bee is eating almost all of that.

814
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: Or you can like the wild flore honey, it's just multiflorals, like, hey,

815
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: whatever is in the area, have at it. Uh. There

816
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: can be different flavors, but it's not exactly like there

817
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: are notes of things. It's not like if you eat

818
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: orange blossom honey, it tastes like you scored to orange

819
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: in it, but there will be like notes of citrus

820
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: and things like that. I actually saw on a site

821
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: um of different types of honey that they warn you

822
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: that if your orange blossom honey smells like orange fragrance,

823
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: then you've got some sort of fake honey that it's

824
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: been counterfeit in some way. It's not like that, like

825
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: you said, it's notes, but orange blossom honey is citrusy notes.

826
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Pumpkin blossom honey has pumpkinny notes. Um. I think sour

827
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: wood is herbal and woodsy or no, that's um, what

828
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: is that? Chuck Linden Linden Hunt herbal and woodsy. Eucalyptus

829
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: honey has like a slight mental note to it. Um

830
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: buckwheat honey. I don't think I've ever had it, but

831
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: it's almost like black in color. It's definitely the dark

832
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: amber side of the fun scale. Um. But it also

833
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: has like kind of like a slight bitter note to

834
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: it too. I want to try it. It sounds almost

835
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: like tortuous, but I would still try. I'll try basically

836
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: any honey at least once. Yeah, And they're all kinds

837
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: of great honey um, sort of like flavored honeys and

838
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: the honey is still in it, so it's still great

839
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: for you and delicious, but like bourbon honeys and like

840
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: uh sort of spicy chili pepper honey and stuff like that,

841
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: all sorts of delicious things out there. One of our

842
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: favorite things to do is go to the our local

843
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: farm co op and get that local honey. And you know,

844
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Speaker 1: it costs a little bit more, but like they're doing

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Speaker 1: the right thing and not like Will Ferrell and Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? Did they get into honey? They are.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's a pretty cool thing. They partnered, along with

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Speaker 1: some other celebrities with a company called Flamingo Estate, which

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Speaker 1: is listed here as an urban farm and lifestyle brand. Okay,

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Speaker 1: sells you know, all kinds of stuff, so urban straw hats,

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Speaker 1: but they serve curated farm boxes. But what they've done is,

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Speaker 1: I think they've gone to some of these celebrities who

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Speaker 1: have large properties and said, hey, how do you like

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Speaker 1: your own honey? We can make we can keep bees

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Speaker 1: on your property and it will be called Will Ferrell

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Speaker 1: honey and it will cost two hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: a jar, but it goes to charity. Okay, I pulled

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Speaker 1: it out at the end. There you know where they

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Speaker 1: should go is the magnum's estate. He has big avocado

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Speaker 1: um farms and apparently, yeah, and apparently avocado honey is

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Speaker 1: a thing too. Okay um. Interesting, Before we end this chuck,

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Speaker 1: if you'll indulge me, I just wanted to rattle off

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Speaker 1: the properties that have been found among some of the

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Speaker 1: compounds that you find in honey. If you indulge me,

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Speaker 1: you're ready, m hm. That these compounds found in honey

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Speaker 1: are shown to possess these properties antibacterial, anti viral, antifungal, antioxidant,

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Speaker 1: anti inflammatory, anti neo plastic, anti microbial, anti carcinogen, anti rhythmic,

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Speaker 1: anti leashman il, uh, anti thrombotic, anti mutesinogenic, mutagenic, anti

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Speaker 1: no susceptive, anti microbacterial, anti proliferative, and immune boosting properties,

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Speaker 1: not to mention that it's hypo cholester emic, cardioprotective, anti hypertensive,

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Speaker 1: hypato protective, hypoglycemic, and UH neuroprotective, nephroprotective, gastro protective, so on,

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Speaker 1: so forth, and it can improve sperm count and their

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Speaker 1: motility and protects against vaginal and uterine atrophy. Plus it

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Speaker 1: improves the normal estros cycle. Wow, and that amazing. Did

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Speaker 1: you see anti Christ in there? I think so. It's miraculous.

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Speaker 1: But in like the reverse manner, are you got anything else?

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Speaker 1: I have nothing else. I don't either, and that means,

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Speaker 1: of course everybody's time for listener mail. I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: this one very short because I just wanted to shout

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Speaker 1: out that we got a I got an email from well,

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Speaker 1: we got one from our old buddy Aaron Myzelle, who

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Speaker 1: helps hut up the stuff you should know five K.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you. But Aaron, I think, was trying to

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Speaker 1: locate this English professor that taught my Shakespeare class. I

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Speaker 1: don't think she landed on it, but someone else did

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Speaker 1: and said was it Dr Vance? And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it totally was. As soon as I heard the name,

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Speaker 1: I remembered and uh, I believe Aaron though, or now

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Speaker 1: I feel bad because I can't remember it was Aaron

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Speaker 1: or the other person who wrote in UM was still

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Speaker 1: in touch with Dr Vance got in touch with him

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, Chuck took your classes. You may have

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Speaker 1: even taken some classes from Vans who knows. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember me? No? I didn't Okay, um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess I was an English major, so I was always

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Speaker 1: over there. But r vans Uh send in an email

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Speaker 1: which I haven't responded to, but I'm gonna do that today.

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Speaker 1: It said, Chuck can't tell you how honored I was

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Speaker 1: by remarks on the podcast. I thank you so very much.

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Speaker 1: Always well here, loving retirement, traveling grandchildren. And here's my

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Speaker 1: website in case you want to see what I've been publishing.

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone should go check it out. It's

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Speaker 1: a mystery, thrillers, literary horror, humorous romance, historical fiction, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of fun stuff and you can find all this

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Speaker 1: at author John Vance dot com. Very nice. That was short,

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Speaker 1: and Chuck appropriately sweet for this episode. Good stuff. That

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Speaker 1: was nice. Man. I got a pat on your head

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Speaker 1: from your old your old English teacher. He was the

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Speaker 1: best man, had a you know, one of the few

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Speaker 1: college professors who really impacted me, like Robin Williams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't get that joke. You don't know from um oh

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Speaker 1: dead boats. Okay, thank you for saying that, because I

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Speaker 1: was about to say, from oh captain, my captain. It's

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Speaker 1: ultra working title. So if you want to be like

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Speaker 1: Dr vance and let us know how retirements going for you.

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