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Speaker 1: Origion Pockets Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. After I woke myself

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Speaker 1: I woe is me? I shouldn't have said that. Anyways.

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Speaker 1: Everything this team does like they do nothing right, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, that's a great rant have They love that?

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Speaker 1: But Conky is a slot receiver. Keep chasing the untalented

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Speaker 1: remember Paul calling West Welker Pockets. I wish he took

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Speaker 1: a rocket shot at me just now. Freddie's one hundred

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Speaker 1: I'd be so mean to Evan. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a really great throw and get shut up, like, oh

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Speaker 1: I love him. You the four of you are no

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Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. Oh I don't want the back to

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Speaker 1: back league MVP? Like what is wrong with you? People's

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Speaker 1: I think he has the best skills that I've seen. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: can make one point before you break. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 1: is Thursday here at Jolette Stadium, and uh uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: big news yesterday or big report yesterday from Tom Kern.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leave right off with that that the meeting

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Speaker 1: between Bill Belichick and Robert Craft did in fact happen,

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Speaker 1: and Bill is open to making changes. So basically we're

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Speaker 1: going to continue our discussion from yesterday about what those

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Speaker 1: and it's Dues, it's Tamarat's Evan, it's Paul. Matt's in

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Speaker 1: the booth. I just want to say something about Matt

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Speaker 1: Patricia because you know, it's it's you know, hunting season,

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Speaker 1: Patriots Nation. Instead of killing this guy, they should be

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Speaker 1: faking him, you know, because he was asked to do

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Speaker 1: what he was asked to do, a job that he's

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Speaker 1: and he did it. He accepted the job, and he

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Speaker 1: And whether or not you think it was all his fault,

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Speaker 1: some of his fault, whatever, he did, what he was

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Speaker 1: asked to do. That does not merit the attacks that

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Speaker 1: you know, you could say he didn't do a good job,

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Speaker 1: but the personal attacks. And I know I've said this before,

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Speaker 1: that changes are going to actually happen as a result

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Speaker 1: of this meeting, Patron's nature should thank him for the effort.

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Speaker 1: I'm serious, I really am. I mean, I agree with

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Speaker 1: offensive way bill? You know, it's it's not so. I

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Speaker 1: not fair. You know. It's like, dude, if if I

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, can you start video editing? Could do that? Well,

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get that off my chest. Okay,

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Speaker 1: name calling. What that said. It's big boy business. I know,

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Speaker 1: It's something he's never done before. So hey, thank you,

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Speaker 1: now goodbye. Yeah, and I'm not saying you fire him, either,

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Speaker 1: the ball. The offense is a totally different story, uh

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Speaker 1: from everything that I've heard from the players in the

423
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Speaker 1: locker room. Is that where Gerard's value really is that

424
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: he's a great presenter. Okay, so he's usually the one

425
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: that gets into the front of the room and presents

426
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: the game plan to the defense. And he's very very good.

427
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Speaker 1: Because I would assume a lot because he played as

428
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,479
Speaker 1: able to retain and relay that you got the one

429
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: making the game plan and well he I think that's

430
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: a collaborative thing between him and Steve. And then obviously

431
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: Built comes over the top and says the way but again,

432
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: if I'm hiring him as the DC, yeah, that's not

433
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: our that's not not how we're set up. What what kid?

434
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Speaker 1: What have you done Gerard to give me the confidence

435
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: that you can not only present, but you can come

436
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: up with the scheme. Yeah, well, I think it's because

437
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: gona need to do that. I mean for me, I

438
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: would look at as if I was in girod Mao's

439
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: position doing the things like that Evan just laid out.

440
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: I'd be frustrated because I would feel like it's almost

441
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: like practicing football all week and then you get into

442
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: the game and you're just kind of like, all right,

443
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: Nickel personnel go like you're just calling personnel. You're not

444
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: in the game, you're not calling the plays, You're not

445
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, like like I imagine as a coach and

446
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 1: a play caller, that that's what you want to do.

447
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean I imagine that he is like hear and

448
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: Steve call plays and like okay, okay, like not that

449
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: there's you know, controversy behind them, but I just if

450
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: I was that guy and I want to coach, I

451
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: want to call plays, I want to be in the game.

452
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: I want to be that guy, not the guy who's

453
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: all right, guys, this is what we're gonna do this week,

454
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, like that stuff that's not the fun part.

455
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: The relationship is a lot like brothers, I would say,

456
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: where like there's some there's some tension there just because

457
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: that's the nature of their two positions. But those guys

458
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: are inseparable there. They're there with each other all the time. Um,

459
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because they there's definitely on the surface

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: it does not appear that there's any sort of animosity

461
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: or tension between the two of them. But just the

462
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: nature of their their job is obviously that there's gonna

463
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: be some some power struggle there a little bit, which

464
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: I do I has to exist, but I don't think

465
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Speaker 1: it's anything personal at all. Yeah, i'd agree. I mean,

466
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: they play catch a lot. They spend a lot of

467
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Speaker 1: time and we've seen it even in the building a

468
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: lot walking out together always. Yea, they spend a lot

469
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Speaker 1: of time quite the pair quite the pair. Yeah, so,

470
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Speaker 1: but i'd want to root out in an interview, D

471
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Speaker 1: what exactly did you do that well? And he's like,

472
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Speaker 1: I was a defensive play caller for the team when

473
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Speaker 1: I played, so like I mean, I you know, I

474
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Speaker 1: I he knows the role. And say, I mean if

475
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Speaker 1: your Mayo, you could say I ran the defense. The

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: coach his son got the credit for calling the place,

477
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: Like it's an easy interview process if you wanted to

478
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: do it that way. Like, I don't think that's a

479
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: big deal now whether or not it's accurate and you're

480
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: hiring the right guy if you're you're I don't know, ye, Like,

481
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: I don't know how great these coaches are. It sounds

482
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: like in Cleveland it's gonna be Brian Flores. Oh yeah,

483
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: that's he's the first one in, and and that that

484
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: seems to be the consensus is that he's the front

485
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: runner for sure. Like I made the argument with with

486
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: my my boys on my show yesterday. You know, they

487
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: were like, you know what kind of messages that send

488
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: when you if you let Mayo go? And then and

489
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what if Steve Beliticcks a better

490
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: coach than Gerard Mayo right, And I'm not saying I'm

491
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Speaker 1: not saying that he is. Please don't put words in it.

492
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: But what I but I'm asking what if Yeah, they know?

493
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: Like so I don't, I don't think And they were like, well,

494
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: it just sends a bad message because the players look

495
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: at it as the you know, the coaches. Sounds like, well,

496
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: the players also know if the coach's son is a right,

497
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: is a worthy coach. They know if he's any good.

498
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: Now I have my question. It's about that. I don't

499
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: know what they all think, right, but just saying like

500
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: just just to make a blanket statement and saying what

501
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: kind of messages it sends, Well, it sends no message

502
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: because if Mayo is going because there's a guy ahead

503
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: of him, what who cares what the guy's last name is?

504
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: If he's ahead of him, if he's a better coach, yeah,

505
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, I just I think it's that big a deal.

506
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: What about Mayo to Tennessee? Are they most of the

507
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: coaches they've got rid of their offensive? Okay, I don't

508
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: think on the d d ND, I'm sure that's Fray

509
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: Bulls show. Yeah. Anyway, I just I just say, like

510
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Speaker 1: when we got to actually see Mayo last week at

511
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Speaker 1: the podium. I think it's one of the first times

512
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I've seen him just kind of speak at a podium.

513
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: He's he's he's got it, you know, like he just

514
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: has that engaging personalities. He is. Liked Evan's point about

515
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: he's a presenter. Yeah, he's like he articulates, articulate. This

516
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: guy is ahead point as well. Yeah, we're talking about

517
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: that on Tuesday, like how important it is that you

518
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: need to be a great teacher. Yes, oh yeah. So

519
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Speaker 1: the guy that I think that they're grooming to potentially

520
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: take over from Mayo if Mayo does leave, his DeMarcus Covington,

521
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: who a lot of the players really like in that

522
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: locker room, and this year I think he talked, took

523
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: on a little bit more responsibility on the sideline on

524
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: game day and stuff like that as well. He's a

525
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: defensive line coach currently, so I think that they're they

526
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: have him in the wings. Like I just yeah, he

527
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: did the like development he went to was some part

528
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: of some program last year. I just himself. I guess

529
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Speaker 1: I'm just not worried about the defense if if Mayo leaves,

530
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: But it's mostly because of Bill, but I just they

531
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Speaker 1: lose Patricia, their defense is fine. They lose Flores, their

532
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: defense is fine. Completely agree. I don't worry about the

533
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: coaching on defense or about the players. We started talking

534
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: about this seven because you said, why don't you just

535
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: put Patricia as DC said, Oh you said it, somebody

536
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: said it. It's like, well, you don't need to do that. Yeah,

537
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: if you want to move Patricia back over the defense

538
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball just to fill out the staffa

539
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, I mean, it's ridiculous

540
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: that you're bouncing the guy around. But I would much

541
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: rather on that side of the ball coaching linebackers like

542
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: he used to do, or something like, say he's defensive coach.

543
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: If you're losing a defensive you know, personnel then right,

544
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if they want him to coach, you know,

545
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: he used to coach linebackers for the Patriots, Ron Mayo

546
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: coaches linebackers for the Patriots right now. So if Gerard

547
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: Mayo gets hired by somebody else and you want Patricia

548
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: to go back to coaching linebackers like he used to do,

549
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: then that's st Yeah, but then you can't really take

550
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: play calling from Steve to give it to him. So

551
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: is he going to be read like you go from

552
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: making him do too much to now he's just kind

553
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: of the guy on the sideline like Gerard is doing

554
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: the play. Oh, you give other things to do. I

555
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: just wanted do you think it's more likely that he

556
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: goes up to up back to the football advisor role

557
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: or coaches the offensive line. Like I from what I

558
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: heard before he was given the offensive duties was that

559
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: he was getting really involved in personnel and he was

560
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: actually building up that department, like from software up to

561
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: people who work in there. He was like building his

562
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: own department there. And so that's I was really surprised

563
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: in the off season when we found out he was

564
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: now going to be a play caller, and because I

565
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: thought that's what he wanted to do. He wanted to

566
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: get more involved in the general manager personnel side of

567
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: football because he was sick of coaching. So after that true,

568
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: after that Detroit experience, if that's true and you thought

569
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: that that's what he wanted to do, then I would

570
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: expect deuces scenario here. And if I'm right to go

571
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: back to then the thank you becomes even bigger because

572
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: he basically took a year off from his career path

573
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: to help out the team. I mean I don't mean

574
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: it as a shutter. I mean I mean I think

575
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: we should just buy him, like you know, I do

576
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: Rose a new car. Yeah, I mean the sacrifices that

577
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: this man made. I mean, he's so like, why do

578
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: you have to like thank him? He did a terrible job,

579
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: but you don't have to call him names. I get that.

580
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm like thatself. Well, I don't need to.

581
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean we really we should thank him to him,

582
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: thank you for wasting a year of Jones. Well, and

583
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I've been ruining our first round quarterback. I made twenty

584
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: nine minutes before I addressed that open. Well, but I

585
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: do think that we were supported, supportive, but we were

586
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: understanding of that decision along. I mean they said it

587
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: from the get go. How does Matt Patricia have a

588
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 1: good season? He is stacked up against the odds. There

589
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: was no way it was going to happen. And at

590
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: the very least, he was gonna catch crap the whole

591
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: season long for the blocking, for the offensive coordinating, Like,

592
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's still could have done a better job.

593
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, And I but how many people were just

594
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: like Josh. Oh my god, Josh the worst play caller, Like,

595
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then Josh leaves and you're like,

596
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: oh wow, actually we could have used probably him a

597
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, like it's I don't I just

598
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: if I feel like criticism a play calling is such

599
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: a like Paul is very much like I only give

600
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: credit with credits due. Well there you go. Yeah, I mean,

601
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: like Josh my based business. And that's the thing is,

602
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: if any of us performed in our job the way

603
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia did, nobody would be thanking us. They'd be

604
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: thanking us for our time and please go away. Oh man,

605
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: I imagine what that it looks like. And listen. I

606
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: am very much sympathetic to what he had to go

607
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: through in terms of taking the bullet, like they got

608
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: stuck with with what they felt were no options. Yeah,

609
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: and he did it. He did them a solid, but

610
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: it didn't go well, no, it didn't. I can appreciate

611
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that he doesn't. But he doesn't need to have his

612
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: name like and he not for his performance like the

613
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: name calling, like Evans said, like, you don't have to

614
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: like criticize his appearance because you didn't like the way

615
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: he called plays like that's where I would say, is

616
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: it's unfair, and that happens a lot. I mean, I

617
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: do think you got to point out that he's kind

618
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: of getting it pretty good for wearing the Goodell barstool shirt.

619
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Speaker 1: And now people are, you know, like like some of

620
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: it some of it was actually we haven't heard that

621
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: for a while, but we criticized him. Well, there's a

622
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: lot of people who have now made the Matt Patricia

623
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: version of the barstool shirt of him. But I didn't

624
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: know that with the with the I didn't know the

625
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: the other thing though, And I also have gripe to

626
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: pick with you from your felgram Mas appearance yesterday talking

627
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: about Paul. Yeah, but I have a feeling I know

628
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: what it is, but I'm gonna go with this first

629
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: though they had other options like this, they think that

630
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: we can't let them off the hook for that though,

631
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: because they had other they had other options internally. Again,

632
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: like everybody keeps asking me about Nick Kaylee, Like I

633
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: would have much rather have seen Nick Kayley fail on

634
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: the job than it did than to do what they did.

635
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: At least I would say, oh, it's an offensive guy

636
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: and he wasn't ready for that yet Yeah, yeah, you

637
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, even if he was just as

638
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: bad as Patricia was. Yeah, so what's the nitpick? Oh yeah,

639
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: So I listened to you on felgra Mas. It was great.

640
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm not just blowing smoke. Good job, okay, but I

641
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: disagree with with everything you said. No, not everything. I

642
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: disagree with one big thing what you said. No one

643
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. Why said that to you on Tuesday? I'm

644
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: out on Cliff Kingsbury, but you're you're reasoning that you're

645
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: out on Cooking. He's been surrounded by immense offensive talents

646
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: and really hasn't had great offenses at Texas Tech. At

647
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, they he put up forty five a game

648
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Texas Tech does on everybody in that right, yes, right,

649
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: and they lost and they were top five in the

650
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: in all of FBS in every category on offense and

651
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: they win. They lost all the games. I'm not asking

652
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: them to record. I'm not asking him to be the

653
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: head coach. The reason why he got fired at Texas

654
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Texas because they had no defense. He couldn't build up

655
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: the defense. The defense, right, yeah, I mean, I don't

656
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: care about all of the teams are operating the same

657
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: way he had. We're not making them the defense. I

658
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: don't think we're making them the defensive and every generational

659
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: player at the most important position. And he threw for

660
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: five thousand yards in fluched. He couldn't win with him.

661
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: He couldn't win with him. But they were like twelve fifteen.

662
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm not asking I'm not asking him to do that though,

663
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: but I'm asking him to find a way to score

664
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: enough points to win the games. And they scored forty

665
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: five a game, but it required fifty five, Like you

666
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: gotta do it. He had a guy that the other

667
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: teams didn't defense and more importantly than the Mahomes part

668
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: of it, which I had a feeling that that's what

669
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: you were going to pay. He hasn't had good offenses

670
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: in Arizona. He hand picked the guy. He actually said

671
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: before he left Texas Tech, it would be Kyler Murray.

672
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: If I had the first pick, it wouldn't even be

673
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: And then he got the job and he took Kyler Murray.

674
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean they were by the way, It's not like

675
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is like, you know, given all the mac

676
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Jones excuses, like you know, I know, we don't have

677
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: any receiver. They had him like, really good talent around him,

678
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: and for other than one half of one season that

679
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: he was there, they were kind of average at best.

680
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: And this year they they stunned offense. Theoriously pointed that

681
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: out to me. You heading into the Arizona game, then

682
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: he notoriously fades down the stretch. That's that's a big

683
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: thing with him post Thanksgiving or whatever you want to

684
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: call it. Uh, he that that does happen with them.

685
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: But I like it for two is one because it

686
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: would be fun as hell for me. Like I just

687
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: watch He's just a really creative schemer. So the different

688
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: things that they would do in terms of formations in

689
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: motion and all this kind of stuff that I always

690
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: geek out about, that would be a lot of fun.

691
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: The other thing that I like about him is that

692
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: he played quarterback, and I think that when you see

693
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: across the league a lot of the young quarterbacks, when

694
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: they get with a guy that played the position, it

695
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: brings out the best in them. You know, I think

696
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: that that really does matter. It just you have this

697
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: you're of like mind right, like you're on the same page. Yeah,

698
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: I get it. I just so you had said that

699
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: you don't want a Shanahan guy because you don't think

700
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: it fits mac Jones, but like you want like an

701
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: air Raid guy because you think it does fit Mac Jones.

702
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: I think that there are elements of ahead, listen. I

703
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: think there are elements of it to do. I think

704
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: that the biggest reason. So they tried to be a

705
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: gun team this year, right they that's what they were.

706
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: They were spread team. They tried to spread the field.

707
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: And I think when you play that type of offense,

708
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: for the most part, you better have good receivers because

709
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, then your guy, your receivers

710
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: got to win one on one matchups because you're not

711
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: going to use misdirection in motion and play action and

712
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: all these bells and whistles to get guys open. You're

713
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: just going to expect the guy to beat the guy

714
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: across from you. So I think Cliff does a little

715
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: bit more of that type of stuff. What he really does, though,

716
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: is you know he'll start in trips like three to

717
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: the side, and then he'll motion a guy and then

718
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: it will be four strong, and that's like really difficult

719
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: to defend four strong to one side of the field.

720
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: So he uses a lot of those types of formation

721
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: manipulation to get guys open as more than just one

722
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: on one. I also think that he would really help

723
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: them on early downs. I think they'd be a lot

724
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: more innovative on how they called first down. Well, listen,

725
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna ask me Matt Patricia again or Cliff Kingsbury,

726
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm a thousand times Cliff Kingsbury. You like the other options.

727
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: So when you were saying like he'll do more, th

728
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: absolutely like what We're not going to have a repeat

729
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: of twenty two, right, you know, regardless of who we pick.

730
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not telling you I am unequivocally Cliff Kingsbury

731
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: can't spell offense. I don't want him anywhere near my offense. No.

732
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: If i'm if I'm faced with the options and he's

733
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: the best one, I'll take it. I just don't think

734
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: his track record is anywhere they're as strong as people

735
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: think it is. And I think if he wasn't a

736
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Patriot's draft pick, people would consider him another one of

737
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: those guys who've just flamed out, like different kind of offense,

738
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: but like Frank Reich. I wouldn't be opposed to a

739
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: guy like Frank Reich yeah, Kingsbury's not my number one choice.

740
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: My number choice would be Bill O'Brien, but he's my

741
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: number two choice. I just Frank Reich worries me because

742
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's a very It's kind of like

743
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: the Shanahan thing, Like that's a very like you're hiring

744
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: him to run his system and it's very hyper specific,

745
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't love the system. So I like,

746
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: I like with all different things. And again, if we're

747
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: faced with the options, he could be the best one

748
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: King's body. So don't you think it'd be like great

749
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: to hire said persons sooner rather than later so you

750
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: could get the pieces to fit whatever system. I think

751
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the deadline is the hard The hard deadline to me

752
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: is the combine because right now the coaches go on

753
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: vacation like they're going to be on a week and

754
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: a half evidently, right So I think the hard deadline

755
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: because once you get to the combine, Nats, when team

756
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: building really is starting well pleasure, you're starting to think

757
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: about what you're gonna you know, where are you going

758
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: to go in free agency, where you're going to go

759
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: in the draft, the kinds of players you're gonna require,

760
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: you need to have, you know, an idea of what

761
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: kind of system you're gonna run by. Yeah, well, and

762
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: I have a question on those lines. But do you

763
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: think that what's the most likely thing that they're going

764
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: to bring in an offensive coordinator who has their own

765
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: system that they will then install, that they will bring

766
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: in somebody who has their own system, but that we're

767
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: going to kind of make it our own, little Patriots Frankenstein,

768
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: using some of what we had last year. Or do

769
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: you think they're going to bring somebody in and be like,

770
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: this is our system, this is our playbook, this is

771
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: what you have to you know. I I gotta be

772
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: honest with you. I think that that they're incapable of

773
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: bringing somebody in who doesn't know their system. Yeah, that's

774
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: and having them understand it. That's why I ask. And

775
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: so we just saw that what is this system that

776
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: they ran last year was is this Bill O'Brien will

777
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: come in and be like, oh, I got it? Or see,

778
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien could come in and you could

779
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: say we're going to run the system. We're gonna alabama

780
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: ize it, you know, to an extent. You know, because

781
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Mac Jones taught Alabama to to Bill O'Brien, So there's

782
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: some comfort level, at least on a minor left. I

783
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would argue Bill O'Brian's probably the best choice. Yeah, right,

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: But I also just wondered, you know, how do you

785
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: how do you get Mac back? And I know a

786
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: lot of people out there can concerned about Mac third system,

787
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: third year changing. That's why I like Bill Obrian so much,

788
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: because it's not you're not doing that that would be

789
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: the least invasive. Is there anybody else that's not that? Chado'shay,

790
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: but I don't like it. Yeah, he was not good

791
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: in Miami with Brian Flora. I think he's a position coach. Yeah,

792
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: so I that's why I like Bill O'Brien so much

793
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: is because you're basically you're running the Patriots offense and

794
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: he ran in twenty twenty one with an Alabama flair,

795
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: which is plus if you have a delay a game

796
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: and you might have a fight in the middle of

797
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: the field here. But I just think that Matt, I

798
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: think that transition is really smooth for Mac. And that's

799
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: why I think sometimes that like Frank Rank brought up him,

800
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: that terrifies me, because that's that is a third system

801
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: in the third year, right, Like a lot of these guys,

802
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: it would be you know, if you're going outside totally,

803
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: you probably go in third system in three years. So

804
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: since the Patriots loved to do the non obvious choice

805
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: or the less easiest choice, I should say then that

806
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: probably means they're probably not going to go with Bill O'Brien,

807
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: log go with somebody else. But that's such a I

808
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from. But to me, I'll just say,

809
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: if Bill Brian's at the offensive coordinator by the combine,

810
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: gonna be mad. Yeah, I'm gonna be mad. He has

811
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: no contracts, he has no job, Okay, he wants to

812
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: get back into the NFL. And what better way to

813
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: get back into the NFL than to come back to

814
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: New England fix mac Jones and now you have another

815
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: somewhere he's not I don't think he's I don't know

816
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: if you will have that, okay, but sure that would

817
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: be the only the only thing. But I just it

818
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. But after a year of doing what did

819
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: it make sense? You absolutely need to do the right

820
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: thing here, And it's so obvious and it's staring right

821
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: at you the guy coordinated your offense and the Alabama offense,

822
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: and that's the two offenses your quarterback played in. Yep,

823
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: what if if? What if Bill's thinking is I'd rather

824
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: have somebody here that I know it's going to be

825
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: here for a while, Then that's a mistake. Okay. I

826
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: think it's the same as saving I think Sabing goes

827
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: every two years. He signs because he knows that his

828
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: guy is probably gonna get a better job after he's

829
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: done at Alabama, because Alabama's gonna make them look good

830
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: because they have five star recruits all over the I've

831
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: said that many times about the whole conspiracy theory that

832
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: he did Patricia last year because he knew if he

833
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: did O'Brien it would be a one and done. So

834
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: that you're intentionally you're you're intentionally not doing what's in

835
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: the best interest in the team. That's what I don't

836
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: like about it. You should hire the coach that's going

837
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: to put your team in the best position to succeed,

838
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: and if he has to leave after a year or

839
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: two and you have to find another one that you

840
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: think is because that's what he's only going to leave

841
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: if he does a good job. So that's what we're

842
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: trying to get back, and let's hang on to all

843
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: our coaches for the next ten years. If O'Brien, it's

844
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: if it's New Orleans, Tennessee, Vegas, those are the teams

845
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,759
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Speaker 1: landmark wins for you guys, no question. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1054
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, thinking back in my football career, even from

1055
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, the starting when I was seven years old

1056
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: till I retired in twenty twenty, that stands out as

1057
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: the as my favorite football game I've ever played in.

1058
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: And it could, honestly like it gives me chills, Like

1059
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I if I didn't know the sweatshirt on it, I'd

1060
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: show my poems and goose bump. Right now, it almost

1061
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: brings it tier to my eye honestly, because it was

1062
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: like it was just it was it was like the

1063
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: perfect team against the world environment. First of all, Kansas

1064
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: City is a great place to play football, and when

1065
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: we were walked in there, like you could just feel

1066
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: how much we like, no one wanted us to be there, right,

1067
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: so it was us like the forty six guys on

1068
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: the field, plus you know, all the help we have

1069
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: on a sideline. So call it like seventy to eighty people.

1070
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: It was like us against you know all close to

1071
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: ninety thousand. And this way we started the game like

1072
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: running the ball. Well, I think we ran lead on

1073
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: the first play. Sony broke it for like thirteen or

1074
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: something like that. And then you know, and then it

1075
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: was a goal line run bang, we score, a goal

1076
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: line run bang, we score, And it was everything was

1077
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, just building and building and building,

1078
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: and we knew that they were going to break at

1079
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: some point defensively if we just kind of kept just

1080
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, kept the punches coming and uh and then finally, yeah,

1081
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: it kind of did. And then they fought back and

1082
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: that whole like that just like EBB and flow of

1083
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: the game and then you know, going into overtime and geez,

1084
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: like all the third downs that we converted. I mean,

1085
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: like it is like lighten me up right now just

1086
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: thinking about it. And then the final play is one

1087
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: of my favorites of all time. And you know, standing

1088
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: over Rex, you know as he was in the end

1089
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: zone is like one of my favorite football memories. Um, yeah,

1090
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: it was. That was that was truly a special one.

1091
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: And just the feeling of like brotherhood that we had

1092
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: like after we won that and like running off the

1093
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: field and just the exuberance I'm like among like the

1094
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: misery of all the fans and the other team. It

1095
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: was like just it was perfect, all right. That was

1096
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: James Devlin from Patch from the Past. Uh. Paul Parillo

1097
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: and Matt Smith recently sat down with him and did

1098
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: another one in the podcast for Pats in the Past,

1099
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: So U check that out on Patriots dot Com or

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00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast Pats from the Past. So

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00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: that sounded like it was a good interview Paul. It

1102
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Yeah, and you know, he

1103
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: had a lot of very specific memories that I thought

1104
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: were amazing, just the recall and you know, like him

1105
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: just talking about you know, the first play was leading

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00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen I didn't look it up, but I'll

1107
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: bet you it was thirteen yards too. Um. Yeah, just

1108
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. Uh maybe a you know, sort

1109
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: of an understated cog and some of those great teams,

1110
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: you know as a fullback. Um, you know, got a

1111
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: little Andy hard in there, just out of of course

1112
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Andy had to sneak a question appreciation. I listened to it.

1113
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: It was fun. I did a little write up off

1114
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: at that was one of the things that the other thing, uh,

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00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: I would I would highlight that I liked. They asked him,

1116
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, who's the toughest guy he had to go against,

1117
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: and he actually went with the Landing Roberts in practice

1118
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: as his toughest guy to take on, and you know,

1119
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: always the first day of PADS would would sim where

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do a lead and it's gonna be

1121
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: me versus him in the hole, and you know, big

1122
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: hit every single time. So I thought that was, I mean,

1123
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: no surprise with the landon roberts KAA was just I mean,

1124
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: talk about coming downhill, all right, pass from the past

1125
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: with James Devil and check it out Patriots dot com

1126
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Before the break, I

1127
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: kind of teased something that Chris Simms said and Matt Marine.

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Matt got teed up for us. So let's listen to

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: what he had to say and then we'll discuss Mac

1130
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Jones wasn't happy. He was telling people. He wasn't happy.

1131
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: He was calling people about, hey, can you help us

1132
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: with ideas and do stuff like that. Right from my understanding,

1133
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: Belichick found out all these things. He found out that

1134
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: Mac was talking to people and all this, and there

1135
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: was some you know, back channel, you know, conversations going

1136
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: on behind Belichick's back, and I think that's where we

1137
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: did get personal, all right. So that's Chris Simms and

1138
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Chris Sims obviously the son of Phil Simms. But he

1139
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: played quarterback and was play was here for a while, Um,

1140
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: one of those assistant coaches, low level. I think he

1141
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: was in personnel, wasn't he Yeah, a low level Yeah,

1142
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: So he was here for like a year or two. Yeah,

1143
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't a long Yeah. He spent more time with

1144
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: us in the kitchen that he had at them, So

1145
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't long for them. But what he said,

1146
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: if true, is news um that Mac was calling around

1147
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: outside of the circle looking for help ideas, um, which

1148
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: tells you a lot of things that he didn't think

1149
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: that he was getting enough ideas here. He didn't think that,

1150
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, they could supply him with the help that

1151
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: he needed. That you confidence, right, and so like if

1152
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: you're any coaching staff, but especially you know Bill, you

1153
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: find out about that. I could see things getting a

1154
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: little frosty. And maybe that's what we saw manifest out

1155
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: on the field. But again, if true, I don't know,

1156
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was kind of strange the

1157
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: way he said some of the stuff. Yeah, a lot

1158
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: of you knows, and uh, you know, and if you

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: know back channel, you know, uh you know these talk

1160
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: like I don't know he didn't. It didn't seem like

1161
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: it was long on specifics. Yeah, I don't know. I

1162
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: always just have with my radar up with Chris Sims reports.

1163
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's this. There seems to be sometimes

1164
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: to me, ulterior motives with him and things that happened.

1165
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: But that said, I mean, taking it for what it is,

1166
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, it's bad. I mean that's and you

1167
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: can understand why the coaching staff would be upset. I mean,

1168
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: what's worse than one of your players like going outside

1169
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: of the building and trying to consult with other coaches

1170
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: and other players for things like I mean, I guess

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00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: my question would be who was he calling? So here's

1172
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: here's something now we don't He didn't say when in

1173
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: the season this happened, but let's say that it happened

1174
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: early Bill found out about it was upset. Max's actions

1175
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: like Minnesota doesn't show to me that this is a

1176
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: guy who was just disciplined or given his come up

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: and spy the head coach for doing like he didn't

1178
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: seem to have any like oh I did a bad Okay,

1179
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry like that. So like that's why I kind

1180
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: of question the severity of well, I don't know, but like,

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01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, it sounded to me like he was told

1182
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: he did something wrong. I know, but what if he

1183
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't think he did anything wrong. Well, I'm not apologizing

1184
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, then it's even worse, you know, I

1185
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: have I have no idea if that's true. By the way,

1186
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just giving it. But his actions afterward

1187
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: didn't come from didn't sound like somebody who had been

1188
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: humbled recently, no more somebody who was in concurrently active conflict.

1189
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: All wait for the next time I think he's been humbled.

1190
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: All wait for the next time that Chris Sims is right.

1191
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I I take such a

1192
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: love with Mac Jones. I take such a big grain

1193
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: and solid everything that Chris Sims says. And to Paul's point,

1194
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: whenever he tries to act like he's got sourced information,

1195
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: he never says it with any sort of conviction where

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: you actually believe what he's saying. Did you get like

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: that's it was kind of the way he said, Like

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: if you just read that quote, you'd be like wow.

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: But when I heard him say it, and I actually

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: was some you know, you know, there's a lot of um,

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, you know, back channel, but talks. So I

1202
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: wanted to pull up the quote from from Bill on

1203
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: on Monday at the Press commerce. I think the quote

1204
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: that's getting so much run is that Mac has the

1205
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: ability to play quarterback in this league. But the very

1206
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: next thing he said was we have to all work

1207
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: together to try to find the best way as a

1208
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: football team, which obviously the quarterback is an important position

1209
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: to be more productive than we were this year. We

1210
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: have to all work together. And I think that as

1211
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: much as he's saying, you know, I think there's some

1212
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: of that with Mac, right Like I think it's buy in,

1213
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: like yes, being able to to say, hey, you know,

1214
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: we take the coaching. And I think that my guess is,

1215
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: honestly is that Chris Simms is talking out of his butt.

1216
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: But I think that he's just reading the room like

1217
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: we all have all season long. And you can see,

1218
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: okay that Mac was not sold on what he was

1219
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: being coached because it's right there for you. And I

1220
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: think that the head coach said said it as well,

1221
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: we have to all work together. And I think at

1222
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: times this year, from training camp on, they felt like

1223
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Mac wasn't pulling the rope the same direction that they were. Yeah,

1224
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that's the bigger issue. I

1225
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know if if Chris Simms is talking out of

1226
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: his butt, but because I think it's a big stretch

1227
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: to say I'm reading the room and I heard that

1228
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: he's was calling outside the organization for help, for suggestions,

1229
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a big, you know, gap. But I

1230
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Like I said, I didn't like the way

1231
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: he said it, didn't say it with much conviction, you know,

1232
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: But I do think that he, like Fred said, he

1233
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: was here. Phil Simms, Chris's father was very tight with

1234
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and I think there's a loyalty there. I

1235
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if that camp, the Belichick camp. Let

1236
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: this be known. What if Phil Simpson is one of

1237
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: the people he called for help. Well, that's what I'm wondering.

1238
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: That I got back to Bill, Like who would mac Jos,

1239
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, McDaniels, Sarkisian, Bill Ob Maybe maybe maybe Bob too,

1240
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: But I mean I would have think, I say, I

1241
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: would think that that he talks to chalcor Josh. You know,

1242
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been saying all year, like do

1243
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: you guys think And I know that, Like there's these wild,

1244
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: crazy rumors on Twitter now about Mac asking for a trade.

1245
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: Like we talked about this like halfway through the year,

1246
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: the way it was going. He was so unhappy. Um,

1247
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's out of the remo possibility. He's like,

1248
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, like, I know, you got to fix this offense,

1249
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, fix it without me. You know, Derek Carr's

1250
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: now gone. Does Josh want him back? They mean they

1251
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time hugging in Vegas, right, Yeah, Like,

1252
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: I just I don't think anything's off the table. If

1253
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: you're asking me to do, I think any of these

1254
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: things are gonna happen. I'm gonna go with logic. I'm

1255
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna take the field. Probably not. I don't think the

1256
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: odds are you know, what is it. It's more probable

1257
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: than not. Like, I don't think that he'll go anywhere

1258
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: he's got. He's going through his third season. I think

1259
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: the organization's got to do whatever he can to get

1260
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: him back on track and figure out if he's the

1261
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be worth that fifth year option after

1262
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: the twenty three season. I think that's probably the way

1263
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: it'll it'll unfold. Mac Jones is back and we'll see

1264
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: what happens. But I don't rule anything out. I don't. Yeah,

1265
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: all right, well let's get some calls and emails. We've

1266
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: got to hurry because even though the Patriots are involved,

1267
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: we still have playoff picks not as many pigs, so

1268
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to hurry as much. Yeah, Super wild Card,

1269
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: SUPERD I'm excited. I mean, although a lot of dogs,

1270
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the division around week. But yeah,

1271
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. I mean, quarterbacks are playoffs. Got

1272
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: a game at three o'clock on Sunday. I was like,

1273
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: what are we doing? I find good time to miss though.

1274
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: I finally got a chance to watch the playoffs and

1275
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: now this I think that's a good time I want.

1276
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: I gotta watch. I gotta watch him one and eighteen. Yeah,

1277
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the A stick of outline?

1278
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: Will Philly? What's up with him? Hey? What's going on

1279
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: for it? Hey? All due tomorrow? How y'all going? You

1280
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: left Evan out and Tomara left? I said, I said, oh, sorry,

1281
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't gona forget even you know, I'm

1282
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: a fan of I ain't gonna forget now. Um my

1283
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: question is this manfact not if I'm mister Krap, I'm

1284
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: not waiting for Bill. I'm just not. I'm getting on

1285
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: the phone. I'm calling Bill O'Brien. I'm gonna man, try

1286
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: me this trade for Hoppins. I'm not waiting for him

1287
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: because you gotta get this done. You know, all this

1288
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: waiting around and stuff. I mean you're doing. We want

1289
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: to see we want to see progress. You know, the

1290
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: fans they're just on filter and so one and so

1291
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: one even to owner himself. No, I'm not waiting for that.

1292
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just not. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's

1293
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: the fear of coming out of this. No, it's gonna

1294
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: be good. He's gonna make changes and then like all right,

1295
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: we'll see in April, like what's gonna happen? You know.

1296
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Then the conversation was, Uh, here are the changes you're

1297
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: going to make? Bill? Yeah, you know, I don't see

1298
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: it going like that, but I hear you, William. We

1299
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: gotta move fast, you know, you don't have to move

1300
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: that fast just by the comma. It's been. It's been. No.

1301
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: I just think that this we we as fans and

1302
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: I totally totally understand, but we as fans want this

1303
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: instant gratification of heads are rolling and we're hiring new

1304
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: guys and things like that, Like this season. The season

1305
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: is not even dead for a week yet. Yeah, I

1306
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: would say that that's true right now. But the longer

1307
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: you wait, I think it becomes like free agency. And

1308
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: that's the way the Patriots almost always approach free agency.

1309
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: Let the dumb teams spend all the money and get

1310
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: the good players, will just wait around and get the

1311
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 1: mediocre ones for half the price. We'll sign time. I'm saying,

1312
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: if there's someone you want move, if if if you're

1313
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: not sold on anyone, okay, wait till the combine. But

1314
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying wait. I'm not saying you have to wait.

1315
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, it's been a couple of days,

1316
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: like you know, we're not We're not. Yeah, I mean,

1317
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: and you know, like what if they stay to Bill O'Brien, listen,

1318
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: make us a promise, just come to us, give us

1319
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: a chance to you know, have the right of first refusal.

1320
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't want that, no, I know, I want Bill

1321
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: O'Brien to be my offensive coordinator. Yeah, then no contact him. No,

1322
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: but like, like obviously if he wants if he says, yeah,

1323
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to be your OC, but I

1324
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: want to see if I can get a head coaching job. Okay,

1325
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: but come to us before you make anything. If you

1326
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: don't get a head coaching job, right, then come back right. Okay,

1327
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, But if I wanted to be an offensive coordinator,

1328
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't want him to go out and shop another

1329
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: team and then come back to me. I'll give you

1330
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: a right, I'm sure, Like, if it's an OC job,

1331
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: this is the place he wants to be. But like

1332
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: I said, he might think I might be able to

1333
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: get a head coaching gig, you know, So yeah, I don't.

1334
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard his name any of these. No,

1335
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: not in the mix. I don't understand why he's not

1336
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: in the mix, but I don't think he is. Maybe

1337
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: now that Jack Easterby's gone, he can go back to Texas.

1338
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: Where is Jack Easterby? Does anyone else think that Nickossario

1339
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of looks like that Iowa killer? You seen that guy.

1340
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm just shocked that he still has Idaho. Sorry Idaho,

1341
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: And I mean with no disrespect, but like, I just

1342
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: don't know what, Like what that Texans roster is horrible,

1343
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: It's horrible, and I don't know, Like Davis Mills neither

1344
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 1: does he. They're definitely drafting a quarterback, and like, I

1345
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: don't know, is that is that the guy you want

1346
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: to make the decision? You guys, you guys are a

1347
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: way smarter than me. Is Chicago really gonna take Bryce Young?

1348
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: I think, like is that said? I would have to

1349
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: blown away? Like he didn't rule it out. He did

1350
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: the best. I think that Ryan Polster trading that place.

1351
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: So no, he didn't say no, but he just I'd

1352
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: have to be blown I just heard like something like

1353
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: I heard it. I forget who it was. Someone said,

1354
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: this is a some real detailed conversations need to be

1355
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: had about whether or not they're gonna like what, Like

1356
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: I definitely think you have to have the conversation. Sure,

1357
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: but I mean they're trading the pick. I mean I

1358
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: look at justin fields as kind of like these, you know,

1359
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen and like Jalen Hurts, like a couple

1360
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: of years, really good athlete, runs around, makes some plays,

1361
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: little wild, little erratic in the path, and then you

1362
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: get him like three or four years in and I

1363
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, we got something here, Like that's how

1364
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: I'd be looking at Justin Fields based off of last season.

1365
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: And you want to talk about a lack of talent

1366
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: around you, they had nothing? Yea, Darnell Mooney is their

1367
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: best receiver. Like you give him a couple of receivers

1368
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, I don't know an offensive line

1369
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: that might be able to, you know, prevent him from

1370
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: run for his life on every play. Yeah. I agree

1371
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: with everything you said, and it's even more skewed because

1372
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: we saw Justin Fields here plays and I'm trying, no,

1373
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: You're still right though, but like we mean, we saw

1374
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: him do it, you know against I mean, I respect

1375
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: for the people we want to talk about, you know,

1376
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: like they scored a lot of points in some of

1377
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: those games they lost. You know, we want to talk

1378
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes like in college, and I'm not saying

1379
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: that fifties the same as twenty five or thirty whatever,

1380
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: but in the pros that's kind of yeah, that that

1381
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: there's a correlation. He got better, he did, but he

1382
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: got better once they opened up the run packet. Yeah,

1383
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: like that once they started using the design quarterback runs.

1384
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: He got better the two guys in the draft, Brice

1385
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: Young and c J. Stroud. Those guys are natural throwers.

1386
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: Those guys are pocket passers. And now I would worry

1387
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: about Young. He's he's small and he's thin, but he's

1388
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: like six feet six one. He's not. He's small. It's small,

1389
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: but it's not Kyler Murray like he's not it's Bailey Zappy. Yeah,

1390
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: but he's obviously way more talented. I don't know, man,

1391
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on Bryce Young. I think if you

1392
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: watch that game against Case stated, I'm sold say that

1393
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: about Mac Jones too, but not not. Mac's dropping dimes

1394
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: to DeVante Smith and right, like Bryce Young that that

1395
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: Alabama offense is skill players this year where they had

1396
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: a down year for skill players, and he's still put

1397
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: up insane numbers. He's he's a talented I'm sold on

1398
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: his ability. I just I'm a little worried that he's

1399
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: kind of small. Yeah, I'm worried at one or two,

1400
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, this is that's where you're gonna

1401
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: have to take him, and there's gonna be a little

1402
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: bit of a question. I love c J. Strout too.

1403
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you go toe to toe with the Georgia

1404
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: defense like that in a in a big time Bowl game.

1405
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: That's that takes some metal. Yeah, I know he's got

1406
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison juniors. Why don't I know? But I would

1407
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: take Stroud over. I would's close. I would take Stroud.

1408
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would. Yeah. Yeah, Uh,

1409
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: let's go and then maybe Lad McCaffrey there, mcconky will

1410
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: still be around the third one. Let me tell you something,

1411
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. I'm telling

1412
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: you right now. When I when I get my clause

1413
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: into somebody, I'm usually right. No one, No one uncovers

1414
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: the walk on there was. There was the day we

1415
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: had the last locker room day. There were some people

1416
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 1: wondering where Fred was. More than one person asked me,

1417
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: when the boys on their way and give him a

1418
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: word of encouragement after a tough season. Yeah, bank, Matt, Patricia,

1419
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: you didn't get the kersha out of boys. Uh, let's

1420
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: go to Chris with a t I A n Hey, Christian, Hey,

1421
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you guys, you know,

1422
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: send that hot around so we can all sign it.

1423
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 1: Not even a way to send the money for the scratch.

1424
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, Christian, I agree, it's not your fault.

1425
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: It's not your fault something scratch. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.

1426
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: Give him a little something for the effort. Yeah. I

1427
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: just want to take you guys against this year. I

1428
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: was really negative Tuesday obviously, but um, the additions to

1429
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: to the to the staff and everybody's fred of been great.

1430
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: Evans been awesome, um tomorrow and Alex has been great

1431
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: in the room too, so and it's it's really been

1432
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: good and the past in the past. I just want

1433
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: to say the Logan Manking episode was awesome. Is That

1434
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: story about sprinting with Matt Light was stemical. So I

1435
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: encourage anybody to go listen to that. It was so worthless. Yeah.

1436
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys have done what thirty six

1437
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: of them or something like that? It is that right, Yeah,

1438
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: thirty six I haven't. I haven't done anywhere neither. Yeah,

1439
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: thirty six of these already, So I mean you're going

1440
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: on a long trip or whatever. Um, this is great content. Yeah.

1441
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know what Devin mccordy's going to decide,

1442
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: but I laid the ground work for one with him

1443
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: last week in the locker room on Monday. He's still

1444
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: not the past yet, you know. No, That's why I said,

1445
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what he's going to decide.

1446
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: But that's why Fred went in the locker room is

1447
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: just to you retire, you retire, you're going you Yeah. So,

1448
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: And that was a question I had for you guys. Um,

1449
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this. Do you guys see obviously

1450
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: looks like Devin and Slater are going to retire. Um

1451
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: do you see them following the stuff to Electry Brown

1452
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: and you're on Mayo to to potentially be on this

1453
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: coaching staff at some point. I think I think if

1454
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: mccy Okay, thanks Chris, I think if mccordy retired going

1455
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: into broadcasting, Yeah, I think he's got he's gonna have options.

1456
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: Look what his brothers doing. Yeah, yeah, I would do

1457
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: a show together. I would say, ye, Slater, that could

1458
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: be so Jack Easter be right. Yeah, That's what I

1459
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: was thinking, was Slater is like I think he's still

1460
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: doing and actually, guy because the coaching aspect, obviously, we

1461
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: know about the hours and what they have to give up,

1462
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: and he's got a family and I don't know if

1463
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: he wants to necessarily do that. But you know, I

1464
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: don't think you need to put in the same amount

1465
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: of hours as a team chaplain as you have to

1466
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: do as a special team's coach. Right, So still work, Yeah,

1467
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: still doing the rara and still you know, break it

1468
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: down in the locker room and uh, you know, do

1469
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: all the addressing the team and stuff like that that

1470
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: he does sometimes when Bill asked him to. I don't

1471
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't rule it out. Who do you see sepping

1472
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: up as leader? If if both those guys were to retire,

1473
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: who are guys that you think would be looked to

1474
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: to be leaders going forward? Jimmy Andrews comes back because

1475
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: he got the hell beat out of him, He's still

1476
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: the leader. I think Bentley um quia seven times three times. Yeah,

1477
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: I think Bentley definitely. I think I mean Meyers seems

1478
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: to be so happy, go lucky, quiet, But maybe he

1479
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: could step up if they're going to keep him and

1480
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: he could be a leader. Um, you know, maybe dugger.

1481
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: You know. I think Dietrich Wise captain this year. He's

1482
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: got good energy, um quarterback anyone he should be Oh

1483
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: he's I mean he's a captain. Now I'm trying to

1484
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: think of guys that aren't captains. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just

1485
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: a new I think, a new somebody who's got that

1486
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of leadership trait. Maybe you guys talk to dougger

1487
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: Um obviously a lot more than I do. UM does

1488
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: he have Is he quiet? I don't know. I mean

1489
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's starting to a little bit more now,

1490
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: but he doesn't come off to me as like I

1491
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: would say. I mean, Judean's a little bit of a

1492
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, silly, but he's got more of a present,

1493
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: very quiet another very quiet guys. See, I haven't really

1494
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: been in the locker room a whole lot. I mean,

1495
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: obviously we had a couple of years when we weren't

1496
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: allowed in UM, but even this year, I haven't been

1497
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: in UM at all. So I don't really know these

1498
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: guys personalities. And Madre is thinking of talent, I think

1499
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: a great player, but super shy. I think you feel

1500
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: like he got better, like he just seemed like he

1501
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: was a little more just comfortable up there when he

1502
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: quick question for Evan, any chance that the Patriots bring

1503
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: back the full back? Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I

1504
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: think the the to me, the biggest area they missed

1505
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: a full back in with short yardage, you know, third

1506
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: and one year in shotgun. It just drove me nuts. Yeah,

1507
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: that would be largely depending on what they do with

1508
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: their offense, right, but yeah, I think I think there's

1509
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: a chance that they bring back a full back, and

1510
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: I think that would help them in short yardage, goal line.

1511
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: They had all sorts of trouble getting the ball into

1512
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: the end zone. Not a lot went well for the

1513
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: Raiders this year on offense. Right, but Josh Jacobs had

1514
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 1: the best year of his career by father, Yeah, because

1515
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't say it was that. I just said,

1516
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: but Devlin gave a shout out to yak yeah for

1517
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: for the work he was doing. Mentioned use check. I

1518
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: mean Jacob's had like fifteen hundred yards, right yeah, yeah,

1519
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: he was led the league. Yeah yeah, all right, let's

1520
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: get back, excuse me to the phone. Gerard Mayo's got

1521
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: a head coaching interview Calm can Denver, Carolina Panthers. Carolina

1522
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: requested permission to interview Patriots inside linebackers coach. More so,

1523
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: as I said before, now that would get you the compensation, yea.

1524
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, okay, Girarde, like why are you

1525
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: a head coach candidate, you know, like and don't talk

1526
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: to me about platinum. I don't know why we have

1527
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: to we have to thank Mac Patricia, but we have

1528
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: to rip. I just want to know. I just want

1529
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: to know, like and his words, what did he do? Yeah, well,

1530
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: everybody's got questions, I think in interviewed, but I um, yeah,

1531
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's been around for a while. James is

1532
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: in Georgia. What's up, James? Hey, that's how you're doing good.

1533
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, guys, M Paul to

1534
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: all the good words you put in for Jacobe. Oh.

1535
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: I like you. You guys understand that I listened to

1536
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: the show. It's just doing warm information that you've gone.

1537
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: I say, you guys are an informatively entertaining clue. I

1538
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: like the new attention. You guys are great. I appreciate

1539
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: all the supports begin Jacobe Miners. Is this mister Meyers?

1540
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: We hope that yes? Oh, hey, how are you doing

1541
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: all right? Yeah? And James, I do you know? Evan

1542
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: and I had a chance to talk to Jacoby for

1543
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: a second on Monday, and I did tell him I said, hey,

1544
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: make sure you say hey to your dad because quite frankly,

1545
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of parents that listen to

1546
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: our show and understand what we're doing. And you have

1547
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: right from the first time that you listen to us,

1548
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: and we do appreciate that support. And we wish I

1549
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: hope Jacobe's back. We all hope you hope he's back.

1550
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: We all do um. But I wish him a lot

1551
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: of luck because he deserves it. He's worked hard to

1552
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: get where he is and he deserves to get rewarded

1553
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: for that. He sure has. He's gonna get that bad gay.

1554
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: I emailed you, mister Marris, if you want to, I

1555
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: got a bunch of game days with that Jacobe on

1556
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: the cover. You wan't gonna send them to you. Just

1557
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: let me know. I gonna tell you everything. You guys

1558
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: got I taped because you know, as you know, when

1559
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm at the game, all I do with video tape

1560
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: every time he goes out, So listen, I would be

1561
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: too man understand right, Yeah, I understand what those parents

1562
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: in Buffalo went through because whenever Kobe went into Blue Tent,

1563
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: it kind of changed the whole field of watching the

1564
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: game because now my attention is on the tent, I hear,

1565
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: but but on a good note. I appreciate you guys,

1566
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: and we appreciate the support and just once say happy

1567
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: New Year's and you know, let's keep it coming. Well,

1568
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: thank you, hope to see you next year. Calling all right,

1569
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: thank you James, mister Myers. Great, all right, thank you.

1570
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Like, and I can't even express how much

1571
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, like as a show. Now I'm not

1572
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: talking individually, I'm talking as a show to have you know,

1573
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: and we we get followed by a lot of parents

1574
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and they like stuff that we do a lot,

1575
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: and you sort of, you know, understand that because you

1576
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: know you're write something like we talk about the good

1577
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: and the bad on this show. We don't just tell

1578
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: you how everything is great. We've talked a lot about

1579
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: how we love Jacoby Myers, but we think they need

1580
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. Yeah, and there's the guy's father

1581
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: sitting there appreciating the support. You know, he could sit

1582
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: there and say, well, I don't they think my son's

1583
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: worthy of you know, he could absolutely do it that way.

1584
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: So what I would do if it was my son,

1585
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I wouldn't be calling into the

1586
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: show or anything and ripping anybody and God bless the show.

1587
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: If you did like that would be like you know,

1588
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: like like maybe a certain former quarterbacks father would do. Um,

1589
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: that would be Tom Brady's father in case I didn't know,

1590
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: But I just I really appreciate what kind of support that. Well.

1591
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: But what did Jakoby say to you guys? Because I

1592
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: was on the outskirts of it, and I heard him

1593
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: being like, my dad, he's always just like laughing at

1594
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: he lasted you guys. He loves the show and uh,

1595
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: and Evan said something like, you know, I just started

1596
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: doing the show. I go, Yeah, he's the excess those guys,

1597
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: and Jacoby goes everybody's got to know their role. Everybody

1598
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: right here, job, I said, yeah, he's breaking down film

1599
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: with a funny guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah he um. Jacoby

1600
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: is arguably one of the better homegrown wide receiver talents

1601
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: they've had of the Belichick here, just from a statistical perspective.

1602
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you know Gronk and and Edelman and

1603
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: Dion branch Or in that category, but Jacobe Meyers right

1604
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: there with all of them in terms of production in

1605
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: his time with the Patriots, and Udfa should have gotten drafted.

1606
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that just because he's a Patriot,

1607
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: he should have gotten drafted, and he went undrafted and

1608
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: just fit in like a glove here instantly. Yeah, I

1609
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: just feel they ought to pay him. I I just

1610
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: want him to get paid. I'd love if it was here, right,

1611
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: But I love the player more than I care about

1612
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: him being payriot. I just feel a special can I

1613
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: with him because it's when I started here and the

1614
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the look on his face is an

1615
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent was kind of the look I had

1616
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: on like, WHOA, what is going on here? So I

1617
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: think you just always feel like, you know, a connection

1618
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 1: with those kind of guys. So I he's so consistent,

1619
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 1: it's consistent, tough catches, and I remember when he hadn't

1620
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: had a touchdown and now you know, now he's got

1621
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: a few. Um it just yeah, just a great guy.

1622
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: And I like, like I said, I just want the

1623
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: best for him, and if it's it'd be great if

1624
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: it was here, And I'd love to continue to, you know,

1625
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: up grow this relationship with him. But if it is,

1626
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, you've made like a great imprint on an

1627
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: organization and I hate to bring it up. Sorry, mister Myers.

1628
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: But the play in Vegas happens, and yeah, that's not

1629
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: his legacy, that's right, Like, you know, he's not what

1630
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: he's even talking about that well he did that, we

1631
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: get right, because he's just made such a positive imprint

1632
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: on the field off the field here in New England

1633
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: that players, you know, mistakes happen, you know, things happen,

1634
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: and that doesn't have that's not his legacy. It's also

1635
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: how you handle it too, right. Yeah. But and I

1636
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: hear what mister Myers is talking about. When you know

1637
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: you're watching your kid playing and he gets hurt, Oh,

1638
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden, like it sucks the joy

1639
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: out and all you care about is your kid. Yeah,

1640
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: you know. And that was what Jr. Kobe also said,

1641
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: kind of in his little wrap up around his locker,

1642
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: was just I've been kind of hurt all year and

1643
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: I just can't wait to get away and get healthy. Finally,

1644
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: it was it was a tough year for him to

1645
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: battle through, not just physically, but as you know, as

1646
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Paul mentioned, emotionally getting over all that. And he battled,

1647
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: he did, he did, he came back. I mean, look

1648
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: at the touchdown against Buffalo. I mean he's you know,

1649
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: right there at the end, big game coming through. I

1650
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: mean we you know, we we harass a lot of

1651
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: these guys about this is a huge moment. This is

1652
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: a third down. You had a false start, you know,

1653
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: for for a guy like him, it's it's the other

1654
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: side when when it was on the line, he always

1655
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: got what you need those toes down. Let's go to

1656
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: Courtney in New Jersey. What's up Courtney? Hey, guys, thanks

1657
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: for taking my call. Um just wanted to talk about, um,

1658
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: the the idea of maybe a QB competition going into

1659
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: the next year. You know, what are your what are

1660
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: the chances you could see that potentially happening, whether that

1661
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: maybe would that be which you know had the good

1662
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: two moments um or maybe even bringing in, you know,

1663
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: someone else in the free agent marketing to compete to

1664
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: just kind of continue to spark maybe maybe a better

1665
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: offense money into the offseason. I'm going into the new season. Yeah,

1666
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: what will be the first indication we will get to say, okay,

1667
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: it is it is a quarterback competition? Quick zappy reps

1668
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: and training camp like well, I think if they signed somebody,

1669
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think no, I don't. I don't

1670
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: think there'll be a legit competition if it's just so

1671
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: just going going off of what we had in twenty

1672
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: twenty one with with Cam Ye Cam would That was

1673
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,879
Speaker 1: weird though, that was Cam would lead off every single period,

1674
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: so that gave the illusion that he was the starter

1675
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: because he was the first guy. But then Mac would

1676
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: go like twenty straight plays right, right, right, And that's

1677
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: what Cam did that thing with his father after he

1678
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: was released by the Patriots, and that's what he said.

1679
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: They've used me as an illusion because I let off

1680
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: every drill, but if you counted reps, Mac was out

1681
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: wrapping me like three to one. And if they really

1682
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: want to give Zappy a look in training camp, that's

1683
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: that's how you would know. Yeah, yeah, if you can't

1684
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: try my mind. If I asked the second question, um yeah,

1685
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: you know how we always and I've been following days

1686
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: for years. I'm I actually played on the played on

1687
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: the cliff at Texas text but um, but but it

1688
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 1: always sh is like with the pages. It seems like

1689
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: the right thing to do is always in front of us.

1690
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: And then Bill always finds, Yeah, he says, listen to

1691
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: what he does? You know, friend. We always get that

1692
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: from you. Um, Courtney, you didn't play defense at Texas Tech,

1693
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: did you? Everybody blames it all on you. Sorry, but no, man,

1694
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. But the question really is

1695
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: that in terms of Bill O'Brien and Cliff, you know,

1696
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: those are very obvious choices in their own regard. What

1697
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: is a very likelihood that something happens with these guys

1698
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: are whether they're not available or they go somewhere else.

1699
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: And now we're really like, holy crap, like, you know,

1700
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: what are our real options? Thought? That's what I worry about.

1701
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: If you if you drag your feet to right, it's

1702
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: a say with me, offensive assistant. Like that's what they

1703
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: selling is some guy is going to come in and

1704
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 1: be the end. Oh this is the guy and you

1705
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: feel good, you know his offense, but he's not getting

1706
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: the title. It's a shell game. Yeah, this guy's over here.

1707
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,879
Speaker 1: You also have to it's also not even just O'Brien

1708
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: or Kingsbury, because those guys are gonna want to bring

1709
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: their own guys with them too. And what are those

1710
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: guys now, you know have a job already, right, right,

1711
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: so I think you need three guys, right, So if

1712
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: you start to talk about okay O'Brien, he's probably okay.

1713
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he's okay with Troy staying as the wide receivers

1714
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: coach or whatever, but he's probably gonna want his own

1715
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: old line coach and his own tight ends coach. And

1716
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: like you, you have your own staff, right, and in

1717
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: order to put your own staff together, you need that.

1718
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: That's a time crunch too, which which is easier if

1719
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: you pull that Patrician and put him back as the advisor,

1720
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: and then you kind of already have those two. Two

1721
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: of those jobs open. The questions just receiver running back,

1722
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: how you manage those? Hey, Courtney, thanks for calling. And

1723
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: if Kingsbury does end up being the guy, let let

1724
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Kiff Cliff know. He needs to let us know it's

1725
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: not going to be I don't think he's going to

1726
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: be a source. He didn't. He didn't like. I know.

1727
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: I know you're fair you here, Evan, but you'll find

1728
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: out over time. No matter what the subject is, there's

1729
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: somebody listening that's an expert. Like we could be talking

1730
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: about rocket science right now and somebody from NASA will call.

1731
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: This is probably a good time, Patricia, This is probably

1732
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: a good time. To break it to Evan too. He's

1733
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: not going to enjoy our off season shows as much

1734
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: as he's gonna go nuts. He's gonna go So we talk.

1735
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: We tend for the push up contest, right, we tend

1736
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: to get a rope off topic. I think would be

1737
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: a fair way to put it quite easily in the

1738
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: off season. I know that you just want to let's

1739
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: get back to the Do you see the drag brow here?

1740
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: It's not where it's the proper space, see, I know,

1741
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: but we're talking about movies running the running the drag

1742
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: out against zone. Come on, say, last year we did

1743
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: three shows on soap on a rope. I mean that

1744
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 1: was different thing. You know. Don't get it started. We're

1745
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: gonna go down that road. We're in the off season.

1746
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: H Brandon's in Atlanta. What's up? Brandon's in Atlanta. Hey,

1747
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: what's up? You might get to go to the AC

1748
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: Championship ran. Yeah, it is my first time calling it

1749
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: into the show. You know, I usually call it the

1750
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: free game of post game show. So it's cool to

1751
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, be a part of this one. Um. So

1752
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I kind of just had like a question to see

1753
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: if like y'all were agreeing in a greens with me

1754
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: how I'm thinking, so definitely hope that Jakobe comes back

1755
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: because I feel like, even though he's young, I feel

1756
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: like he's also not only a locker room guy. I

1757
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: hope they green k B back. Davante Parker seems like jeez,

1758
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: a um, he's close to a one, but maybe not

1759
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: exactly your your true number one. And then of course,

1760
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: like on Thornton don't be there so and if I'm personally,

1761
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna miss out on d hop and I

1762
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: can live with that. But I was thinking in my

1763
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: personal like just you know, die Hard fandom ship with

1764
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: his team, whether it's Mac, whether it's Bailey, whether it's somebody, anybody.

1765
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the first thing we need to do

1766
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: is fix the offensive line, because I don't care who

1767
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: you are, even if you're Jaff, Josh Allen or Mahomes,

1768
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: if you got three hundred pound linemen in your face,

1769
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: no matter what you can do physically, it's you're a

1770
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: set up for failure. And I don't know if it's

1771
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: Tricia needs to be moved from that too, because I

1772
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: know he's also the offensive line culture or whatever. But

1773
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: I just think that that the first thing that we

1774
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: need to do, whether it be free agency, whether it

1775
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 1: be UM the draft. I think the offensive line is

1776
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: the most important, like aspect of what we need to

1777
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: fix in this off season. I was wondering if y'all agree.

1778
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's up there. I mean, like if they

1779
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: ended up drafted a tackle with the fifteenth or fourteenth pick, Yeah,

1780
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked. I would be shocked. I wouldn't

1781
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: be shocked Draft one, sign one. They should do both. Yeah,

1782
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: do you I mean, do you think they'll have two

1783
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: new tackles next year or one? I mean I assume that.

1784
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: I think, say, right, the interior three probably the same. So,

1785
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about the tackle spot. It's just

1786
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you could maybe make an argument that they

1787
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: could bump the one you outside. I wouldn't. I like

1788
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: the way the inside the interior three are. But I

1789
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: agree with Evan. I think they need two tackles because

1790
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Trent Brown is someone you can rely

1791
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: on now. He was faded down the stretch too, was

1792
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 1: not good for the last month of the season, and

1793
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: I think that a guy that big, I think that

1794
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: that's conditioning and that kind of stuff comes into play

1795
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: late in the year. I just they need to draft one,

1796
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: sign one in my opinion, and I think they should

1797
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: be first round pick, and I think they should be

1798
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: at the top of the tackle marketed. In free agency too,

1799
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: there are going to be a couple of free agent tackles.

1800
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey is the big one that I've been focused on.

1801
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown might might not get paid by Kansas City.

1802
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: He's an option, especially if you're going to continue to

1803
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: be a power running team and get downhill on people. Uh,

1804
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: I don't see why how you don't address that full on.

1805
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: And also the way that they they're blocking system this year,

1806
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was terrible. You know, they get to

1807
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and they made no adjustments ever,

1808
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: like they just sat there and let it happen. I

1809
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: mean the blitz at the Bills got them in on

1810
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: the first half like that that should have been able

1811
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: to be picked up. Like Trent Brown is looking around

1812
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: like blocking nobody. They got the back over there, but

1813
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: they just let a free runner just and he's right

1814
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: there up on the line of scrimmage. It's not like

1815
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: it was disguised or something like that. They didn't they didn't.

1816
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: They didn't adjust protection is that though. I think they

1817
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: took I think they put the training wheels on it.

1818
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff said, we're not adjusting all right,

1819
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know that for a fact. I tried.

1820
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: I tried to get some information about it, and the

1821
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: couple of people that I asked in the locker room

1822
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't even want to touch it, which tells me where

1823
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: did that. I'm sorry, Brandon, go ahead, no one last thing,

1824
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: and I agree with everything ever said and all TV say,

1825
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: But another thing, I don't care who comes in and

1826
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: your McGlinchey, Orlando Brown, please somebody work on the discipline

1827
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: and stopped jumping off side, stopped moving penalty. Yeah, they

1828
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: had a lot of those this year when you don't

1829
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: trust your technique and you don't like you jump right

1830
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: like you're you're trying to cheat. I mean, Trump Brown

1831
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: all year long, I think actually could have gotten I

1832
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: think that's exactly what Trump Brown was doing all year.

1833
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: You got a waitin a lot, but I think he

1834
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: felt like he had a chime snapped during the game

1835
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 1: even here. Thanks Brandon, did Trump Brown just I mean head,

1836
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 1: did you guys see this this week? And I forget

1837
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: this is like I just like CTE, Like someone wrote

1838
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: something anonymously about what Evan alluded to with the change

1839
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: in the blocking schemes, and if they had the same

1840
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: blocking scheams just last year, they wouldn't have allowed half

1841
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: as many sacks. Sound sounds like something Bdard would say

1842
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: could have been because him and I are the only

1843
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: ones that talk about blocking games are out here. So

1844
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: but but I thought he it might have been in Bernardi.

1845
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 1: He might have was quoting an anonymous um, probably David

1846
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Andrews and an anonymous player maybe lamenting the change. And

1847
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: that's why I say, like, and it could be four Like,

1848
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna need an offensive coordinator, a quarterbacks coach,

1849
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: and an offensive line coach, and you're probably gonna need

1850
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: a tight ends coach too, because I think Nick Kayley

1851
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: is going to go on. So to Evan's point, if

1852
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: you want an offensive coordinator, you're probably gonna want to

1853
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: give that guy a little latitude to bring in some

1854
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: of the guys to replace. Those are important jobs. Yeah,

1855
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and the offensive line situation, I don't know

1856
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: his Billy Yates an offensive line coach, Like is he

1857
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: good enough to be and I'm not telling you he's not.

1858
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I just and I would say too,

1859
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: like and when I we were in Vegas, I was

1860
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: right near Karen Brisillo with the Raiders now and and

1861
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say this because I've

1862
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: never been really near when Patricia was coach, coaching the

1863
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: offensive line here or anything like that. But even with

1864
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: some of the footage from Dante last week that they

1865
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,719
Speaker 1: were showing on the sidelines of just how much those

1866
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: guys know and how connected into the offense they are

1867
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: and they know exactly what has to happen. I mean,

1868
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: just the way he would lay into guys, I mean,

1869
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: not even like yelling at them, just giving them coaching points.

1870
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: It gave me an appreciation for what a job that

1871
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: is as an offensive line coach, and how just how

1872
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: connected it is to everything. It's not just like teaching

1873
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: guys how to block. It's about the whole offene. And

1874
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: I make fun of Mike Lombardi a lot because of

1875
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: his boboism, but he said that before the season, like

1876
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: that's why he didn't think that Patricia was really a

1877
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: legitimate candidate to call plays. He said, you can't do

1878
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: both yeah, you can't be with your offensive line after

1879
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: every series going over what went right and what went

1880
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: wrong and the adjustments that are going to be and

1881
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: be worrying about talking to your quarterback and call and play.

1882
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: And what ended up happening was that David Andrews and

1883
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: actually James Ferns from what I've heard, had to take

1884
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: on a really big role on the sideline this year

1885
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: of basically running the offensive line huddle with Billy Yates.

1886
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: And I think that you also look at quarterback when

1887
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: it comes to protection is all about problem solving, right,

1888
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 1: It's just okay, you know they're showing me this look,

1889
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna slide over here, We're gonna have the back

1890
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: pick this guy up, and then I'm gonna change this

1891
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: route so that I have somebody to get the ball to.

1892
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: And if the quarterback can't get to the line of

1893
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: scrimmage and problem solved the equation, then he's screwed. And

1894
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: so many times this year they just had guys running

1895
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: scott free to the quarterback on blitz is because they

1896
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: get to the line of scrimmage. He'd point out the

1897
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: mic that they called in the huddle was the mic,

1898
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: and then they snapped the ball and the line is

1899
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: moving in the wrong direction. Is Mac or how much

1900
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: of it is? I just can't blame it on Mac

1901
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: because it's another one of those things that everybody told

1902
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: me was a strength of his at Alabama and his

1903
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: rookie season, that he was cerebral, that he understood these

1904
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: types of things, that he understood protections, and he understood

1905
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,799
Speaker 1: how to get everybody blocked. And then all of a sudden,

1906
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: this year it's terrible, And so how did that? Just?

1907
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 1: You don't your brain doesn't just stop working like CT

1908
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Let's get to some emails. We're gonna do the picks

1909
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: pretty soon. But Dominic writes in says, I've heard a

1910
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: lot about how the offense changed from last year to

1911
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: this year to be more shotgun heavy and incorporates zone

1912
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: runs versus McDaniel's offense, which was more play action. I

1913
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: just centered, gap run focused. Why do you all think

1914
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: we made this change? What was Belichick trying to accomplish

1915
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: with the switch? I don't know. I don't know simplifying it,

1916
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: but there was easier ways to do it. They were

1917
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: trying to streamline it, trying to play faster, try to

1918
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,560
Speaker 1: simplify it so that guy's rookies and younger players and

1919
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: newer acquisitions like a tayclon Thornton, for example, could defensive

1920
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 1: minded coaches could pick it up quicker, and it obviously

1921
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 1: just didn't work. They just didn't have an offense. I mean,

1922
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: it was just I think part of it was the coaches.

1923
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like part of me just feels like you

1924
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: didn't have an offensive coordinator. Your offense didn't look coordinated

1925
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: in any sense of the word. I mean it's like

1926
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: sounds oversimplified, but that's really like what it comes down to.

1927
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: They just were never on the same page in Summerville.

1928
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: Longtime listener started listening in OH seven question, I've seen

1929
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: Evans breakdowns of Mac undercenter for a shotgun and a

1930
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: running narrative now is that they didn't put Mac in

1931
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: a position to succeed, and we're stupid to not put

1932
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 1: him under center more. I could swear during the offseason

1933
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: a big talking point was Mac wanted more shotgun and

1934
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable under center? Am I misremembering this? If that

1935
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: is actually what happened, shouldn't we be giving Mac a

1936
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 1: larger share of the blame on this topic? Since the

1937
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: coaches would have given him what he wanted. Well, every

1938
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: time we talked to Mac about this, he told us

1939
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: that he ran the wing tea in high school, so

1940
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: he was under center a lot in high school, even

1941
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: though he wasn't under center a lot at Alabama. I

1942
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: think there's some truth to it. You know, a lot

1943
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that come up now are nobody in college

1944
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: runs under center. Okay, like no, none of these teams

1945
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: are under center. They're all in shotgun. And maybe there

1946
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: is some truth to that. But if you're going to

1947
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: be a shotgun team, then you have to find ways

1948
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 1: to then manipulate defense like play action from under center does,

1949
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: but from the shotgun. And that's really, to me, the

1950
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: biggest X and O's thing that they missed the mark

1951
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: on this year was that was that they were not

1952
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 1: able to be a team that scheme guys open from shotgun.

1953
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: So everything turned into we're just going to hope that

1954
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker wins on the outside and Mac Jones that

1955
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: makes a great throw, and we moved the football, and

1956
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 1: they just didn't have the personnel that was good enough

1957
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: to execute that kind of offense. Like if you look

1958
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: at them from miss splits wise, like under center, play

1959
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: action motion. They're the Cincinnati Bengals. They have play action motion.

1960
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: How much they're under center is exactly what the Bengals do.

1961
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Bengals have better players than you on offense, so they

1962
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: do it better than you do. And you're dead last

1963
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of offensive categories because you were trying

1964
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: to be this gun off spread system with lesser talent

1965
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. L from Wisconsin. So everyone

1966
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: seems to be thinking that Kern's report means we're getting

1967
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: a new OC. I didn't read it the same way.

1968
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think the report in any way

1969
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: says that Patricia won't be the OC. It says that

1970
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: changes will be made. Take away the O line responsibility.

1971
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: That's a change. Change quarterback change quarterback who the eight

1972
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: head coach clue doesn't like. That's a change, and I'll

1973
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: continue to be worried until a change is actually announced. Finally,

1974
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: question for Fred, So he's saying that change could be anything,

1975
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: not necessarily OC. Finally, question for Fred, do you think

1976
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: we should fudge the rules and induct Patricia to the

1977
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Fame? Right now? Ha ha ha, Well

1978
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: we should have. They have like the player and they

1979
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: and they have a contributed section. We should have like

1980
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: a little thank you section, right, It's just like in

1981
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the corner. I'd rather have you say thank you and

1982
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 1: please go back to three shows. If Wednesday doesn't work,

1983
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 1: maybe Monday or Friday. Friday's out of the question. Uh

1984
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: Spe says, it's so cool that mister Myers called in.

1985
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 1: How cool is that they have that connection to a

1986
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: player we all genuinely like and appreciate. Anyway, you guys

1987
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: touched on the nepotism issue regarding Steve earlier but seemed

1988
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: to disagree, and then we're like, oh, we love your

1989
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: mister Meyers. Do I think that's at work? What was that?

1990
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:30,839
Speaker 1: Was that nepotism? I mean, of course it's everywhere in society.

1991
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: It happens in every industry and everything that there is,

1992
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: like I don't like, I like, and it's annoying and

1993
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: you don't have to like it, but it is a

1994
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: way of life. It is um Oka and Tampa says,

1995
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: this question is for you, Fred. Earlier in the show,

1996
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: you were rattling off questions that you would ask Mayo,

1997
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: which got me thinking, what interview questions did you ask

1998
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: deuson Evan and first impressions of them. Thanks guys for

1999
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: all you do before. Yeah, but I well, I get

2000
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: just right into the radio show. Yeah. I wasn't even

2001
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: I hired, but Duce hired Evan. It's Paul, it's Paul Parilla.

2002
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: Were right here, And when we had him in, we

2003
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: said we're gonna go down to the show. I wanted

2004
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: to see what he got, how we handled the show. Yeah, yeah,

2005
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: that was fun. That was fun. I was psyched myself up.

2006
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: And uh, but I mean we knew Evan. I mean,

2007
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Evan was well it's already. That's part of it too,

2008
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 1: is I did not know Mike at all. I had

2009
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: never met Mike, and we knew Evan because Evan's been

2010
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: covering the Patriots for years. He's been around. You know,

2011
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know him as well as I do now.

2012
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: But we've known him how long, like ten years? Maybe

2013
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: not that long. I go, I go back ten years

2014
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: with you, Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yes, I still

2015
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: was never one of those bloggers go back to the

2016
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 1: g We had good we had good candidates like we

2017
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: did that. We had like a handful and yeah, we

2018
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: had we had a good turnout for that job for

2019
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Evan's job. Sure, yeah, absolutely, thanks guys. That was not

2020
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: That was not neotism. It was funny those I was like,

2021
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: I think it's weird when I came in here on

2022
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the radio show and I like would tell my mom

2023
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: and my dad and like I got in an interview

2024
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: and now everyone like I knew all my family was

2025
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: listening to how I did on the show. But the

2026
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: funny part was we got off the year and Paul

2027
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: Paul just turns music, So what happened sophomore year? And

2028
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm like it took me a second of process and

2029
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: then I realized, like my stats and hockey, I only

2030
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: played I think like ten games my sophomore year that

2031
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: would show up on Hockey D I get on. I

2032
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: did a little research. He threw me off for a second.

2033
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: Then I was like, I blame I blame my ex girlfriend.

2034
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that's usually how goes. Like I like

2035
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: that guy, but I was kind of star start. I

2036
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: mean that thing in this played another clip of that

2037
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 1: her singing what that's a Tom Brady song? Wow? That

2038
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: was the Ironically he came to work here. He hated Brady. Well,

2039
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: you know he's the creator of the twenty eight three teacher. Yes,

2040
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: oh he knows that. He didn know. I sing one

2041
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: more call and we're going to get to the picks

2042
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Andrew's in LA. What's up, Andrew? What's up? Boys?

2043
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: Is what I gotta say. Tommy, Yes, Tommy and Lynn

2044
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: right there you go, there you go. I gotta do

2045
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 1: his podcast coming up? Oh you do? Yeah? I hope

2046
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 1: you listening to that. At one point, but then like

2047
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: while I was on the line, I added like three

2048
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: things to my notes. So to the previous guy that

2049
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: said that there was no reference to Patricia being gone,

2050
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: Felger has sources apparently in the building, and I'm assuming

2051
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: it's Paul. It's not me. Yeah, it's definitely not me.

2052
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think Patricia's going anywhere. So even if

2053
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: it was me, that wouldn't be my don could be

2054
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: back upstairs. I've heard people saying this rumor said he's

2055
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 1: in hot, he's in demand in several places, but nothing.

2056
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, who's that now, Patricia? He's not in demand, please,

2057
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you know. I mean, maybe we should

2058
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: we should thank him for taking one of those jobs.

2059
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he does deserve all right, all right. But one

2060
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: other thing. So I heard the same thing as you,

2061
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: Paul on the Mother's Ship this week, that that blocking

2062
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: scheme was so they had kept the old scheme. That

2063
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: must then Evan must be right. That must be a baddism. Yeah,

2064
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: because they loved them something. And he's the only one

2065
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: that would talk offensive line. Oh yeah, yeah, of course,

2066
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,640
Speaker 1: the big boy. Um yeah, they would have half the

2067
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: penalties if they had their former blocking scheme. So I

2068
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: heard that too. But um, there is an ol coach available.

2069
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: He's from the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired this year

2070
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: for an incident in Mexico. No, this is interesting. Did

2071
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: you hear about this? I know, Well the guy got

2072
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: fired Yeah yeah, and evidently was mistaken identity. It wasn't him.

2073
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh really, that's that's the worst so our grievance. I

2074
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. You know, who knows what's true.

2075
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of speculation going on. But that's the

2076
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: word right now is that guy is fighting to clear

2077
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 1: his name and it wasn't him. Oh wow. And they're

2078
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: probably still gonna be paying him. Huh. Andrew, good one,

2079
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, Mike, just take it to take the

2080
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: next step there sneaky negative, Yeah, right, sneak. I mean,

2081
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, we're all thinking that with a cliff, right,

2082
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: we don't want to do another one of those. We're

2083
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: gonna be the first NFL team that has coaches that

2084
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay everybody. All the other teams

2085
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: are paying. I'm waiting for them to hire one coach

2086
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: that we have to pay. It's offensive assistant or something

2087
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: like that, just so that it doesn't offset the Language

2088
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: and his Cardinals contract. Yeah, all right, blocking that time

2089
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: of the week, we finished the regular season, so Paul,

2090
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: let us know how that ended up. Okay, So another

2091
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: solid week to end it all, Freddie and Paul eleven

2092
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 1: and five, Evan and Mike ten and six. No, that's

2093
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 1: solid week to finish it out. And um, and that's

2094
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: a tricky week to pick by the way, that week eighteen.

2095
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: So those are good records with the spread. We weren't

2096
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: quite as good Evan nine and seven and the rest

2097
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: of US seven and nine. Yeah, so um and not

2098
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: surprisingly I had a losing record the last two weeks.

2099
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: I knew it was coming, but overall I am one

2100
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: seventy five ninety four and two. Mike drops two games

2101
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: back to one seventy three, ninety six and two, Fred

2102
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: one sixty five, one oh four and two. Evan was

2103
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: one thirteen, sixty one and one, which is basically tied

2104
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: with me in terms of winning percentage. So good job,

2105
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: you kept pacing. Good job, But what's sixty nine winning percentage?

2106
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: Decimal point though? Like sixty nine? Yeah, but I didn't

2107
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: figure this out. Yeah, but who's better? He said, Basically,

2108
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll check, Well, we're both six forty nine. I mean,

2109
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: I'll look, I'll look, I'll look that up in a

2110
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: sty availability is he wins. Yeah, I picked the whole season.

2111
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: But anyway, we have to go with the spread. Any

2112
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 1: we don't need any technicality, doesn't skip the tough weeks

2113
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: with the spread. No technicalities needed, one fifty two, one,

2114
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: fifteen and four. Just a phenomenal record by me. Thank

2115
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: you you do. You had an email of that wrote

2116
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: in about how much money you would have actually won.

2117
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: It's not as much as you thought. Let's go, How

2118
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 1: did you know how much I would have put on

2119
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 1: the games? Like he just speculated? Like, if you you know,

2120
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: I can go to the email at some point. But yeah,

2121
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious because I because you know me, I

2122
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: don't do too good with math. It's the same guy

2123
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: that um uh and analyze the Heart Wilson index. Oh

2124
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 1: and you figured out what the key factors were. Yeah,

2125
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: I got into his math. Yeah, he's a math guy

2126
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: like I'll get to that. Nancy Wilson and Heart. It's

2127
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: the Wilson Hearts. Um So with the spread one fifty two,

2128
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: one fifteen and four for Paul one thirty three, one

2129
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: thirty four and four for Mike one nineteen, one forty

2130
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: eight and four for Fred and Evan eighty nine, eighty

2131
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: three and three. Very solid, makeing munch job. So that's

2132
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 1: how we finished, all right. So now we move to

2133
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs and we continue picking right through the Super Bowl.

2134
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: So we start with Saturday two games, the first ones

2135
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: at four thirty on Fox. Case anyone needs to know

2136
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: that the nine and eight Seahawks are at the thirteen

2137
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: and four forty nine Ers Noiners by nine and a half,

2138
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: nine and a half. All right, I'm up playoffs picks.

2139
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm gonna take San Francisco to win. I'm

2140
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: gonna take those points though I think it's close. It's

2141
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 1: a division game, even though I know what's at stake here.

2142
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take sanfran to win. Though. Yeah, I'm with

2143
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: Mike on this. It's weird when you play divisional opponent

2144
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: again in the playoffs, third time in a season. So

2145
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: I think the Hawks keep it close by. I take

2146
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers in the game. Yeah, I am

2147
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna take San Francisco both ways. I think that they

2148
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: all as Matt Smith would say, they all up. Do

2149
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: you overmatch Seahawks? Yeah, even with a third string quarterback.

2150
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: Paul's correct. The pick here is forty nine Ers both ways.

2151
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: So uh, Now we go to eight, eight fifteen on NBA. Uh,

2152
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: the ten and seven Chargers are at the nine and

2153
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: eight Jaguars. Uh. This is your no, No, this is

2154
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: a road favorite. The lack by two and a half.

2155
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh so, a couple of new kids on the block.

2156
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: Welcome to the playoffs, justin Herbert kids. Yeah, and Trevor Lawrence.

2157
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna I think Jacksonville is gonna

2158
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: fight hard, but I'm gonna take the Chargers on the road.

2159
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 1: I'll lay those points. I think they went by field goal.

2160
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Chargers both ways. I think they they

2161
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: cruise in this way when chargers both ways. Yeah, um yeah.

2162
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about the recklessness that my boy

2163
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Brandon's Daley showed. But I think that they may have

2164
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: dodged a bullet. And I think these guys are gonna

2165
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: play and I'm not anticipating Jacksonville being quite ready for

2166
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: the moment. I don't think they looked like they were

2167
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: quite ready for the moment last Saturday night. Um, that's

2168
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: a team on the rise. Though they have some good players.

2169
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm with the boys. I'm gonna take the lack both ways.

2170
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: I think the debutante ball continues, and I think that

2171
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: the Jaguars win this game at home. I think Doug

2172
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: Peterson has a little bit of a coaching advantage in

2173
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: this game. In a big game, h and I helpe

2174
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: and he helps his quarterback through it. So I'm I'm

2175
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 1: sticking with Trevor Lawrence and I think the Jaguars advance.

2176
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 1: I have a lot of belief in Trevor Lawrence. I

2177
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: will say that this is Al Michael's by the way

2178
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday night on NBC. Who really? Oh wow? How

2179
01:50:55,720 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: does that work? Sure? Now we moved to Sunday three games.

2180
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: The first one is on CBS. The nine and eight

2181
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins are at the thirteen and three Bills. Dolphins obviously

2182
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 1: without two UH bills by thirteen, I'm gonna lay all

2183
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: of them. I'm gonna take the Bills. I will lay thirteen.

2184
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: My question is is it worse? Is it worse than

2185
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: it was for the Patriots last year at thirty point loss? Um?

2186
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: But I think it'll be more than thirteen. Everybody didn't

2187
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 1: want to see the Patriots in the playoffs, and now

2188
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: you get Skyler Thompson going into Buffalo to lose by thirty.

2189
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 1: You're welcome, all right, You're welcome. Bills both ways. You

2190
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 1: have the bills both ways, Um, Skyler Thompson. Yeah, I'm

2191
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna take the Bills both I don't like laying thirteen

2192
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: points in playoff games, but I will do it because

2193
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 1: of Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing Bills in

2194
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: the Skylar Thompson led Dolphins would have the same chance

2195
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: by Bills both ways. UM. Four thirty on Fox, the nine,

2196
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: seven and one Giants are at the thirteen and four Vikings.

2197
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: Vikings by three at home, so it's pick them. I mean,

2198
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna pick an upset here.

2199
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Giants. Um, I just feel like

2200
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 1: that would be a fitting cap for Vikings kind of

2201
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: being up and down all year and then then they

2202
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: finally get in the playoffs and they just lose to

2203
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 1: a six seed. I'm gonna te the Giants. I'm gonna deuce.

2204
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I would have had the exact same thought, like, this

2205
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Vikings team has been fraudulent all year, and I feel

2206
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: like they get into the playoffs and this is when

2207
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 1: it finally they the appropriate ending is losing to Daniel

2208
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Jones at home. Yes, I think we all share a brain.

2209
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: I feel exactly like you can't just win every close game.

2210
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a close game in the players and

2211
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose. I got the Giants and I don't

2212
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 1: think much of the Giants. Wow, my feeling here, Uh

2213
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 1: is Vikings win this game. So I'm I'm picking up

2214
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: We all know you have a feel for the league. Yeah,

2215
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Vikings to win, and I'm, you know,

2216
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: fairly certain of it. So all right, eight fifteen once

2217
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: again on anbry Sure, uh is this al Michaels not

2218
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: al Michaels this time. That's why he got the other one. Yeah. Uh,

2219
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 1: the ten and seven Ravens are at the twelve and

2220
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: four Bengals. How many Bengals by eight and a half

2221
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm not gonna like my picks this week.

2222
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right now. Well, I'm definitely

2223
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: picking the Bengals to win. Just a question of if

2224
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: they put up enough of a fight. I don't think

2225
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: they do. I think the Bengals are gonna start rolling.

2226
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll take the Bengals and lay the points. Yeah, I'm

2227
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: taking the Bengals both ways. Joe Burrow saying that their

2228
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: championship windows his entire career is the best mic drop

2229
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: we've hired all year. To pay what you say, eight

2230
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways too.

2231
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't like laying all these points that I'm doing,

2232
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: but I just don't really you know, no Lamar, maybe

2233
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 1: not even any Huntley, Like I don't. I don't know

2234
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 1: how Baltimore scores enough points. I think they'll be game,

2235
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: you know. I think the defense will play hard, but

2236
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 1: at some point they'll fall behind by a couple of scores.

2237
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: The reality that the seasons over will set in and yeah,

2238
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: since I think if it was ten and a half,

2239
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: I take the points because I think, you know division

2240
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: rival Ravens always play tough, they're never afraid. They'll hold

2241
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: them down, but they just won't score enough to win.

2242
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: But eight and a half, I'll take the hook. No, no, wait,

2243
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 1: I'll you'll lay in the points. I heard you. What

2244
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: does that mean? They have to win by more than

2245
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: than eight and a half? Eight and a half, right

2246
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 1: the bank? So the bank, No, don't explain. You cut

2247
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals, You're lay in the point, You're lay in

2248
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: the take. You have to win by nine taking the

2249
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: Bengals both ways. Yes, I heard your explanation. Real quick,

2250
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 1: I have an update of your winning percentage with six

2251
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 1: four eight five seven. I rounded that to six forty nine. Okay,

2252
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: mine is six four nine four four. I rounded it

2253
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: to six four nine. So paul A Bizart goes down. No,

2254
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: all right, but I'm glad that we came to got

2255
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 1: to the bottom. That's right, that's right. He was basically tied.

2256
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: I was a little basically all right. Um, well, like

2257
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: we're totally skipping over the Patriots. Yeah, we'll come back

2258
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: to them in the rest of the league preseason. Uh.

2259
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: And we go to Monday Night on ESPN eight fifteen. Uh,

2260
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: the twelve and five Cowboys are at the eight and

2261
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 1: nine Buccaneers. Here is your other road favorite, the Dallas

2262
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys by two and a half. All Right, I know

2263
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's never lost to the Cowboys. UM, and I'm

2264
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: having a real hard time picking against the Bucks. But

2265
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I think this is the first one.

2266
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dallas, and then I'm gonna lay the points.

2267
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking Tom. I'm taking the Bucks in the main

2268
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: reason why I'm taking the Bucks is because the Cowboys

2269
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: have been playing some weird close games against bad teams lately.

2270
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they're on for real. And I

2271
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: just like Brady in a playoff game always. I just

2272
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 1: I'll pick against him once he plays a real team. Sorry,

2273
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I spent the whole year, like,

2274
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 1: not the whole year. I spent like the last eight

2275
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: or ten weeks saying I don't care who Tampa plays

2276
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I'm taking the other team like that.

2277
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 1: That's just not a good team. They're not good, right,

2278
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: And now they're up against Dallas twelve and three, twelve

2279
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: and five, who has a good record but is playing

2280
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: like absolute crap. How I don't know what to do, Like,

2281
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dallas because I think they're better. But

2282
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the game. I'm gonna roof for Tom

2283
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna root for the Bucks to win this game.

2284
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: And I don't have any faith whatsoever in Dallas, but yeah,

2285
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: I just think they're better. I was thinking of split

2286
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: in the difference and taking the points, but Cowboys win.

2287
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: But screw it, Tampa Tampa both ways. Now, if if

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are one, are you know, don't even win

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Speaker 1: a game? Here is their coach on the hot seat? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: campfire the GMS. What's his face says no? But you know,

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Speaker 1: you never know Sean Payton? What if they get Sean Payton?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's different game of the weekend. Which one?

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Speaker 1: Which one you're most excited to see? I'm not overly

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Speaker 1: excited to watch any of those. Um, maybe the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Chargers one interesting because it's like two teams that haven't

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Speaker 1: really been there. Me too. Yeah, it stinks that Miami's

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Speaker 1: not gonna have to because that would have been worth

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Speaker 1: watching with two. Yeah, I'm sorry, Skyler. All right, Well

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered

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