WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Oliver Darcy

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds. And Trump's approval rating is underwater in

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<v Speaker 1>eleven of the states he won. We have such a

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<v Speaker 1>great show for you today. The Link Project's own Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson joins us to discuss Donald Trump having his bank

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<v Speaker 1>accounts closed on suspicions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of money laundering.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll talk to Status News's own Oliver Darcy about

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Weiss running CBS into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>But first the news Somali.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump really does not have an easy time prosecuting people

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<v Speaker 3>for the crimes that they He often is inventing that

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<v Speaker 3>they've done. And if we have another failure and the

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<v Speaker 3>seat of the crime is the reflecting pool or the

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<v Speaker 3>scene of the not crime.

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<v Speaker 1>So just for those who have a life unlike Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>and I, there's a guy he gets in trouble for

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<v Speaker 1>he gets arrested for stacking his hand in the reflect pool.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided to charge him with vandalism. Trump had been

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days before and after tweeting about

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<v Speaker 1>vandalism the reflecting pool. Of course, you'll be shocked to

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<v Speaker 1>know just like the sandwich guy. Remember the sandwich guy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the deep gray.

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<v Speaker 4>How could I forget?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who threw a sandwich? And it turned out the

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich guy had worked in the DOJ That guy who

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<v Speaker 1>threw a sandwich and an officer. They tried to charge

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<v Speaker 1>him with battery, assault or something that effect, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened, got a no bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The grand jury was like, uh uh and uh that's

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<v Speaker 1>basically what happened here. There was no damage. No, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is there damage that reflecting pool. There are different theories

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<v Speaker 1>of the case, but if there is, it's very possible,

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<v Speaker 1>nay likely, that that damage came from Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>his people driving their cars on the reflection pool, or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it came from the no big contract that he

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<v Speaker 1>gave to green Water Water Treatment or whatever it is

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<v Speaker 1>who put together a plastic thing at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the reflecting pool, the reflecting pool. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's so stupid and it shows really

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<v Speaker 1>how disinterested Donald Trump is in affordability, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that anyone wants him to be interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing about this stupid story, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking about for the rest of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>besides the Marie Antoinette of it is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>like Obama had trouble with the reflecting pool too. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually it's funny. I was talking to someone who worked

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City government, in city government when Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was a young developer, and he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how when Donald Trump took over the ice rank in

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<v Speaker 1>Central Park, Donald Trump said, oh, look I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I fixed the ice rank no one else could. And

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like he was kind of a scammer, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying he was saving something that he really wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That this was just like he was making it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like more than it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is sort of I think the core of

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<v Speaker 1>trump Ism is it's this sort of scamminess, this belief

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<v Speaker 1>that he can do things that other people can't, when

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, he can't do things that other people can.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I say to you, if you suffer from

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<v Speaker 1>imposter syndrome, you should look to Donald Trump to see

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<v Speaker 1>that there is no You should feel pretty good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that whole thing is really well chronicled in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie The Apprentice. It really gets snails that sentiment

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<v Speaker 3>very well. So speaking of people who one day will

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<v Speaker 3>be mocked in a movie. In a similar way, Elon

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<v Speaker 3>Musk is going all in on Senator Susan Collins, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's opening up his wallet and saying, here you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, girl, yeah you know. So here's what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Has decided to do one hundred million in the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe more. Now, Elon Musk is a big that's just Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh just one hundred million for Susan. Oh wow, look

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<v Speaker 2>at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Musk plans to spend between one hundred million and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty million to help Collins as well

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<v Speaker 1>as other Republicans candidates. I think that's the whole group

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<v Speaker 1>in close Senate races. Now here's the thing. Troy Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth generation Maynor was a lumber guy, okay, running against

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Collins. Susan Collins is from the fancy part of

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<v Speaker 1>Maine Portland. She has the support of fancy people like

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<v Speaker 1>the Bushes. She is now got the support of the

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<v Speaker 1>richest man in the world, okay, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Richest man of the world, but also mister Data Center,

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<v Speaker 3>which shob not very popular like janit bills like basically

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<v Speaker 3>took off like ten points of her popularity.

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<v Speaker 4>People estimate from just supporting data centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Data centers is a real eighty twenty issue, and people

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<v Speaker 1>hate them. They're scared of them, and they see that

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<v Speaker 1>they use electricity, they use water. They're terrible, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea that you should you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people have seen the videos of the noise

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<v Speaker 1>that data centers make, or that they raise your electricity bills,

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<v Speaker 1>or that they use your water, or that they I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many reasons to hate data centers and did

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<v Speaker 1>not want them to move into your state. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if Elon Musk is able to get Susan Collins reelected,

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<v Speaker 1>which he very warm might because she often overperforms polling,

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<v Speaker 1>it will mean very likely that mean and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us will get more data centers, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty distressing situation. But he plans to also spend his

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<v Speaker 1>America pack plants to spend in Alaska, Iowa, Ohio, and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you know why he's spending money in

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<v Speaker 1>those dates.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the republicanscerned trouble. Yeah, So there's an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 3>happening here. On the cover of Drudge Today, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a really wild graphic about Iran's plans to poison our

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<v Speaker 3>water in seven different states.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and Governor Walls is accusing the Trump administration of

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<v Speaker 4>covering this up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good. So here are a couple things here.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that you can't trust this administration. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that this administration does a lot of really destructive shit.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that this administration is deeply dishonest about all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff. So it's not hard to put together

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<v Speaker 1>the Walls that he would be right about this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so he says President Trump is lying about who committed

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<v Speaker 1>the cyber attack on his state and purposefully hiding how

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<v Speaker 1>many states were affected. Trump on Friday dismissconcerns that Iran

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<v Speaker 1>was likely responsible for a cyber attack against him. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Iran has done a lot of cyber attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Donald Trump did go to war with Iran again,

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<v Speaker 1>we still don't know why. The probably because Natanyahu convinced

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<v Speaker 1>him to. Trump knows exactly who is responsible for the attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and other states were hit too, Waltz wrote on X

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<v Speaker 1>and remember like this is an administration that has been

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<v Speaker 1>really disinterested in cyber warfare or getting us up to

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<v Speaker 1>speed on this stuff, and has asked for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're more focused on trying to test war fighter's testosterone

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<v Speaker 1>and making sure that black people don't get promotions, because

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<v Speaker 1>anti anti racism is racism.

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<v Speaker 5>So Molly the Daily Mail has this wild report that

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<v Speaker 5>MAGA exiles, including Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker Carlson, thought

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<v Speaker 5>to launch a new political party and are going to

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<v Speaker 5>wage war on Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not going to have a Never Trump party. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have, of course, the America First Party.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's never Trump and it's Trump, then what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is like get we need sometimes sometimes before Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly, we need we want the racism.

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<v Speaker 2>But none want.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be Trump's mistress for many years, and

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<v Speaker 4>now I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important to remember, I think, like when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, So these are former Trump allies turn detractors

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<v Speaker 1>who have grown frustrated by the President's broken campaign promises.

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<v Speaker 1>The people in this group Tucker Grlst and Marjorie Taylor Green,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massey, Joe Kent. Okay, so I want to pause

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute and just explain the danger of this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these are not our friends. Okay, these are not like,

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<v Speaker 1>these are not just because they're anti Trump and and good.

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<v Speaker 1>These are not the people you want to be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these are people who don't want to fund I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are not your father's Republicans. These are like real,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the racism and the anti Semitism and all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that is really it's just not this is

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<v Speaker 1>not this. This is not the stuff than any of

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<v Speaker 1>us wants to be associated with. So look, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a split in MAGA, which is something we have talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about, right it started with the Iran war,

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<v Speaker 1>it went to the Ebstein stuff. You know, in every

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<v Speaker 1>which way Donald Trump made promises. But some of these promises,

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<v Speaker 1>like these people, you know, they want to end forem wrest,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't necessarily want to do it because they

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<v Speaker 1>are against war or you know, I just think you

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<v Speaker 1>should be really, really really cautious about this group. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Laura Lumer, who is still all Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>called for all seven of them to be put on

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<v Speaker 1>a watch list for being traders to the country. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten so far afield from normal here. Every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these people belongs on a government watch list. Every

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<v Speaker 1>persons photo is a trader to an America America and

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<v Speaker 1>an anti Trump operative amplify by foreign adversaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Megan McCain. I don't know if you know who her

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<v Speaker 2>dad is.

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<v Speaker 4>Never never heard her talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she I mean, look, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very suspicious about all.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, I mean, i'll tell you why it'll be suspicious.

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<v Speaker 3>We discussed this previously. I said the thing I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you this happens once Trump crosses the bushline.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump cross the bushline sweep right. It's like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>no coincidence. I could have imagined that in a meeting

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<v Speaker 3>so easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the idea is that Trump's polling has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>bad enough that this crew has decided that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to pretend to like him anymore. And that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, you have a party that basically still has had

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no nothing besides Trump. Right, there's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Trump. You know, there isn't like a megabase, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Trump Advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know that's it, all right, My.

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<v Speaker 3>Since I know he's your fave, I have a president

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<v Speaker 3>for you. We're going to listen to RFK Junior go

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely batshit on data. Basche's state of the Union show

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<v Speaker 3>and see and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I just want to say that Chiron reads US

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<v Speaker 1>measles cases reach thirty five year high.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's watch there are other countries that at higher.

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<v Speaker 7>But you can go ahead about why we had that,

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<v Speaker 7>but you nobody can tell you. I mean, we have,

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<v Speaker 7>as you say, in the highest crimes in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>And Anthony Fauci was mismanaging the COVID pandemic. Who was

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<v Speaker 7>doing it under the Biden administration. President Trump wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>hand the lockdowns, And in fact, in Anthony Fauci's diaries,

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<v Speaker 7>he talks about how President Trump is calling him every

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<v Speaker 7>day trying to get him to reopen the country.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, the lockdowns were done by governors. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>certainly Anthony Fauci and the President had opinions at the

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<v Speaker 6>lockdowns were done by governors.

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<v Speaker 8>And largely because and largely because largely because they were

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<v Speaker 8>hearing they were hearing from hospitals saying that their ICUs

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<v Speaker 8>were overrun and they needed some help while that was happening.

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<v Speaker 9>But I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just not true.

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<v Speaker 10>What you're saying is not true.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they were doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>Because Anthony Fauci was telling him from the top, you

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<v Speaker 7>need to lockdown. There were ICUs that were empty all

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<v Speaker 7>over the country, including in New York at the height.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm asking you, I'm going to go back to what

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<v Speaker 9>I asked you at the beginning, which is President Trump

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<v Speaker 9>and he was the guy in charge, and you tweeted back.

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<v Speaker 6>In twenty twenty four that he let bureaucrats like Anthony

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<v Speaker 6>Fauci shut down the entire country.

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<v Speaker 2>Again the president.

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<v Speaker 7>The president was trying to reopen the country when he left.

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<v Speaker 7>The country was kept closed for another almost a year

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<v Speaker 7>and a half after.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, I'm telling you what I love about this is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing the idea that they're still litigating COVID, that they're

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<v Speaker 1>litigating COVID and we are what we're year six years

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<v Speaker 1>past COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a loser.

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<v Speaker 1>And and look, this is coming up because ram Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has released the diaries and had him come.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all distraction from the poor polling, from the

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<v Speaker 1>high gas prices, from all of this stupid crabs. This

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<v Speaker 1>is such an unnecessary distraction. And like, instead of getting

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<v Speaker 1>us prepared for more, you know, for whatever is coming

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<v Speaker 1>down the pipe next, or dealing with the measles outbreak,

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<v Speaker 1>or doing any of the stuff that could be productive

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<v Speaker 1>or working on climate change or the forest fires in Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>any of that shit, Nada.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have instead? We have them, like, you know, having.

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<v Speaker 1>These hearings with his eighty four year old public servant

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<v Speaker 1>because they want to get him for not get for

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<v Speaker 1>not what for not for being.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much for COVID restrictions. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so stupid, it's like being in a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Wick Wilson is the founder of the Lincoln Project and

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<v Speaker 1>the host of the Lincoln Project podcast.

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<v Speaker 10>Rick Wilson Wellie John Fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Capital on Financials said it closed accounts belonging to President

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, not Donald Trump's real estate company, in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, not because of politics, but because of legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>reasons after an internal review by the banks anti money

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<v Speaker 1>laundering team.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know about you, Molly. I mean, first off,

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<v Speaker 11>everyone knows Donald Trump is really on the up and

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<v Speaker 11>up as a businessman, so I don't know why this

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<v Speaker 11>would have fled. Oh wait, they fagged it because he

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<v Speaker 11>had over three hundred checking accounts apparently, and it triggered

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<v Speaker 11>this automatic review in their software. Is it targeting him

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<v Speaker 11>personally because he was a bad person. It was targeting

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<v Speaker 11>him because the software showed that he was engaged in

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<v Speaker 11>patterns that they associated with money laundering. And the irony

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<v Speaker 11>is they are required to do this under federal law.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 11>They don't get a vote on this. They don't get

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<v Speaker 11>It's not like it's like they can say, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 11>this guy's a nice guy. We're not going to cover this.

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<v Speaker 11>They know your customer law. If there are signs of

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<v Speaker 11>money laundering, they have to either investigate it or close them,

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<v Speaker 11>and they closed them.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think what.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so relevant about this story and important is that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. They the bank made this revelation in a

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<v Speaker 1>filing as a response to a lawsuit from Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>because he said they debanked him for political reasons.

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<v Speaker 11>The performative nature of all Trump lawsuits. I think this

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<v Speaker 11>is my third Wilson rule. Everything Trump got just dies.

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<v Speaker 11>Everybody hit said cruise. And the third one is no

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<v Speaker 11>Trump lawsuit survives discovery, right because now that the bank

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<v Speaker 11>is going to say, okay, well, if you want us

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<v Speaker 11>to show why we think you were money laundering, we

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<v Speaker 11>will reveal in court why we think you were money laundering.

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<v Speaker 11>And Trump's people, I promise you they're gonna go h

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<v Speaker 11>haamahammahammahamda nevermind, right, it always it is. It is like

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<v Speaker 11>all these cases where that when the rubber hits the road,

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<v Speaker 11>when the facts matter, when the discovery is going to

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<v Speaker 11>embarrass the living hell out of them. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 11>why they dropped the charges against the Olympian this week

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<v Speaker 11>after he allegedly personally destroyed the reflecting pool. It's why

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<v Speaker 11>they just can't hold up on these these bs defamation cases,

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<v Speaker 11>like against the BBC and other things. They there's just

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<v Speaker 11>a sense that that these lawsuits are are like a

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<v Speaker 11>lottery ticket for him. Maybe sometimes somebody will just collapse

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<v Speaker 11>and go, okay, we'll give you money.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that it's interesting because it's like it has

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<v Speaker 1>certainly worked with some people, right, law firms and edu, SHC, ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of places have settled.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Trump has been able.

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<v Speaker 1>To censor certain groups, right the lawyers, the some universities

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<v Speaker 1>some but ultimately, if you push back at all, it

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<v Speaker 1>all falls apart. And like the reflecting pool is a

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<v Speaker 1>great example, right, they drove the cars on the reflecting pool,

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<v Speaker 1>like clearly, you know, like there's a reason people don't

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<v Speaker 1>drive tons of cars on things like that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they hired Trump hired this no bid contract

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<v Speaker 1>for Greenwater, right, Greenwater.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy who looks like a who looks like looks.

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<v Speaker 11>Who looks like he was rejected from the Sopranos for

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<v Speaker 11>looking too mobbed up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he's and he turns out he's a mar

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<v Speaker 1>a Lago member. Turns out Yeah, shockingly, he's a mar

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<v Speaker 1>Alago member. And he's also more importantly, like, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a no bid contract. And you know, I think, like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also this other thing that's happening right now besides

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump money laundering fiasco, is that Trump is also

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<v Speaker 1>the true social is selling this ability to get Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's truth earlier so you can insider trade Rogie, so.

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<v Speaker 11>You can front run the market by signing up for

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<v Speaker 11>one hundred thousand dollars a month of service that is

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<v Speaker 11>going to give hedge funds and private equity guys and

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<v Speaker 11>other people who want to do short trading on Trump's

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<v Speaker 11>coming tweets. And look, if we had a securities an

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<v Speaker 11>exchange commission that was functional, he would have already been

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<v Speaker 11>indicted for trying to do it. And I will say this,

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<v Speaker 11>I think There are probably plenty of companies out there

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<v Speaker 11>that will do this, that will sign up for this.

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<v Speaker 4>They will make a ton of money on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and they'll have to pay it back like with.

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<v Speaker 11>The and when there's an SEC again, and there will

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<v Speaker 11>be folks in for sure three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe three months. If Democrats flip back the.

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<v Speaker 11>House, you know, yeah, you were going to see you

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<v Speaker 11>were going to see an absolute bloodbath. If you're paying

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<v Speaker 11>one hundred thousand dollars a month for this, you better

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<v Speaker 11>be ready to pay one hundred million dollars in legal

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<v Speaker 11>fees and penalties. Are in penalties and legal costs to

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<v Speaker 11>defend yourself on it when there is a recapitulation or

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<v Speaker 11>reconstitution of the power of the SEC or eventually a

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<v Speaker 11>Department of Justice not run by Donald Trump's personal attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Noah agreed. And I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see quite a lot of that. And I think and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the real question is when you look at this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I want to turn now because what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw this week was so many bad polls for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this morning, as I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Walking home, I was looking at a tweet from Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>and Leamir that talks about how Donald Trump is actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no president in like basically since the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forties who has been this unpopular.

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<v Speaker 11>Molly, I'm I have a big piece coming out tomorrow

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<v Speaker 11>on Substack about this. I spent the morning writing, going

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<v Speaker 11>through my personal archive of numbers and looking online for

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<v Speaker 11>all these back you know, all these previous moments in

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<v Speaker 11>electoral politics, and that one lesson that comes screaming out.

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<v Speaker 11>It's like in two thousand and six when Bush's numbers

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<v Speaker 11>and they were better than Trump's. Right now, they were bad,

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<v Speaker 11>but they were still higher than Trump's are right now,

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<v Speaker 11>and high gas prices in an unpopular war in the

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<v Speaker 11>Middle East and high growing inflation. We couldn't win even

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<v Speaker 11>with great candidates and good messages back then. On the

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<v Speaker 11>Republican side, in twenty ten, we couldn't lose even with

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<v Speaker 11>morons and widows, right and so so right now you

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<v Speaker 11>a very unhappy political dynamic for Trump and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 11>is that the Democrats have a lot of good candidates.

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<v Speaker 11>Trump's numbers, which define where Republicans fall, are in the

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<v Speaker 11>basement and going lower, and the political climate is absolutely

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<v Speaker 11>brutal now and you're seeing the real breakout. Democratic voter

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<v Speaker 11>intensity is up, up up the independence you know this

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<v Speaker 11>long slow slide independence. When Trump won office, he won

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<v Speaker 11>independence in twenty twenty four. Yeah, they by the end

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<v Speaker 11>of last year were about two to one against him.

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<v Speaker 11>Now there and most of this year they've been about

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<v Speaker 11>two and a half to three to one against him.

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<v Speaker 11>Now they're closing in on four to one against Trump. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>this is an electoral nightmare for them. They're watching Texas

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<v Speaker 11>slip away, They're watching North Carolina slip away, They're watching

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<v Speaker 11>Alaska slip away. Iowa is not feeling great for them anymore.

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<v Speaker 11>They are really looking at a bad, bad, bad day.

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<v Speaker 11>And it all comes down to the fact that they

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<v Speaker 11>define themselves as Trump's party, and when Trump is this unpopular,

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<v Speaker 11>they pay the price.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's no one else.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the Texas. I want you to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas pulling because what I think people don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>is that Beto never pulled better. Then, so explain to

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<v Speaker 1>us this story here, because better never pulled better than

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruz.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, Look, Beto was a talented candidate. Is a talented

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<v Speaker 11>guy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It has done a lot to flip Texas. If Texas

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<v Speaker 2>f I was done.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just getting to that.

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<v Speaker 11>He has built a lot of the foundational things that

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<v Speaker 11>have let Texas Democrats survive in the most hostile political

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<v Speaker 11>environment right all credit to Taller. Rico has done two

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<v Speaker 11>things I think that only he could have pulled off

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<v Speaker 11>in Texas so far. And look, he's got a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of work to do. It's still got still a long

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<v Speaker 11>way between nown election days, still over ninety days. But

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<v Speaker 11>he has done two things. He has relentlessly focused on

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<v Speaker 11>the economy corruption. He has tied those two together in

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<v Speaker 11>the minds of Texas voters, and Ken Paxton is the

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<v Speaker 11>poster boy for for both right for economy and corruption.

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<v Speaker 11>But he's also been able to go out and walk

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<v Speaker 11>away from a lot of the culture war bullshit. They've

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<v Speaker 11>tried to hang on it. Okay, all the he's trends,

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<v Speaker 11>he's a vegan, all the all the shit. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 11>know what, anybody who's going to vote based on those things,

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<v Speaker 11>those lies, was already voting for Ken Paxton. They're only

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<v Speaker 11>doing base maintenance in the GOP in Texas right now

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<v Speaker 11>because they and even Greg Abbott, a four term governor

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<v Speaker 11>who has much better numbers than Ken Paxton, Hussa is

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<v Speaker 11>three points behind him in a poll the other day,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know that's that one like if you're Ken Paxton,

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<v Speaker 11>like somebody's walking over your grave, you're feeling the the

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<v Speaker 11>the you know that he b gb feeling of like.

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<v Speaker 10>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 11>And look, these people have they have done this to themselves, Molly,

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<v Speaker 11>they they have bought this problem for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so interesting to me when we look at Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>so Texas, Alaska, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've had Rob Sands on this podcast. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had Josh Turrek like part of the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna make you talk about this with me

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody else will. Is that one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm struck by is that in the spots where

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic brand really sucks, like Nebraska, you have independence

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<v Speaker 1>running so you don't have like, you know, we spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time in cable news world talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Mon Damie and Democrats getting too woke,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Dan Osborne is a great example of not

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<v Speaker 1>being woke but being the thing that is not the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic brand but can still win working class voters.

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<v Speaker 2>In the great state of Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 11>This is there used to be a trick that Republicans pulled, okay,

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<v Speaker 11>and we would let the candidates be the right fit

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<v Speaker 11>for the state or the district. We knew. And he's

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<v Speaker 11>a bad example on one level, but it's a legitimate example.

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<v Speaker 11>Rudy was able to win the mayor's race in New

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<v Speaker 11>York first in ninety three and then in ninety seven

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<v Speaker 11>in part because he was pro choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a stager, was pro choice.

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<v Speaker 11>In California, you had moderate Republicans. I elected a pro

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<v Speaker 11>a pro environmental Republican governor in Vermont a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 11>Jim Douglass, who believed in climate change. Way back when

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<v Speaker 11>it was like if you said climate change is the Republican,

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<v Speaker 11>you were off the reservation. Yeah, now that's flipped. Now

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<v Speaker 11>the Democrats are figuring out, Oh, you can't win Florida

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<v Speaker 11>with a raging mom dommy type or a squad type.

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<v Speaker 11>You gotta go with the David Jolly type. You got

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<v Speaker 11>to go in Texas. You can't win it back with

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<v Speaker 11>a guy who's going to be out there talking about

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<v Speaker 11>you know, the center and God bless Bato, but the

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 11>center pain was gun control in Texas. I'm sorry it

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 11>doesn't work, but cats are getting this lesson figured out.

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<v Speaker 11>You got to run the right person in the right race.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also you can't. You have to run someone charismatic.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the.

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<v Speaker 11>Flora, authentic and charismatic.

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<v Speaker 2>And and look you can't, David really is that?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>And and and also in Iowa, Sand is a I mean, folks,

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<v Speaker 11>if you haven't gone out and watched Rob sand talk

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 11>to an audience, he couldn't chill up your spine. He's

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 11>as good or better than Tallarico. And people are underscoring

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 11>that race. Sand Turk and three congressional seats are in

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 11>play in Iowa, folks, a state Donald Trump should have

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 11>felt very comfortable being able to hold onto.

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>That ten points.

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<v Speaker 1>And also more importantly, you know who got off the

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>bench and got and did an.

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<v Speaker 11>Ask Barack Obama a great little lad They.

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<v Speaker 1>Did and yep, and he said, the most meaningful thing

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<v Speaker 1>to me as a politician has been winning Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think part of it too.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw this with Nebraska's first district to get

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>really nerdy when Republicans wanted to take away that first district,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>they became very furious. And Iowa is a state that

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>matters and they often get treated like shit. For example,

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's running against Rob sand lives in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>is this city.

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<v Speaker 11>He flies his plane from Kansas to Iowa, just like

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 11>Tommy Tupperville lives in my state of Florida and commutes

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 11>to Alabama. Yeah, by the way, Mine, I want to

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<v Speaker 11>mention one other stick because I left this off my list. Folks,

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<v Speaker 11>I think if you're the Republican party of the state

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 11>that should scare the crap out of you. The most

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 11>right now is Ohio because Shared Brown is coming back

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 11>with a vengeance. You've got Amy Acton, who is coming up?

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 11>Who's Ramaswami's campaign is collapsing. I've heard in the last

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 11>few days that Trump is about to pull his support

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 11>out of Ramaswami. He was never he was always lukewarm

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 11>about him. That he's not going to bother with going

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 11>there or helping him. And you've got Max Miller, remember

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 11>of Congress, who should not be in Congress. He should

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 11>be in jail if the documents are correct. Yes, who

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 11>threw hot boiling water on his wife and put.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It the allegations and the allegation is that he broke

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the daughter's coming.

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 11>He broke it, Yeah, and attacked their daughter.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awful, right, and that is the Republican Party, right.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 11>But Ohio, if that super deep red state of Ohio

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 11>starts to turn, it is a signal of something much

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 11>bigger in the country, not only for twenty six but

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 11>for twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. But it's also like, if Democrats win back

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the House and they flip the Senate, it is going

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to be just even if they don't, even if they

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>just get close with this Senate. But I actually I

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>still think, like if you MATHI through, I just read

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing that Fetterman's maybe not going to switch.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>So again, who knows.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But still, I mean, I think this is I think

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Really a big deal.

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's a huge deal, Molly, and I think

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 11>that in part the reaction of trying to hide the

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 11>corpse of Mitch McConnell, or or hide what's going on

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 11>with Mitch McConnell.

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I think is going on with Mitch mcconne.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 11>So we have some information a couple of weeks ago

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 11>that he was in a special acute cardiac rehab facility

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 11>at GW Hospital. But what I here's my guess this

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 11>is I'm not based on any insider knowledge. My guess

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 11>is he's had some sort of cardiac or stroke event,

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 11>is completely incapacitated, and they are waiting for the deadline

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 11>to pass to announce it. And it will go down

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 11>in history as a great failing of the American media

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 11>because there's nobody twenty seven interests on the ground for

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 11>the GW hospital and nobody's managed to sneak up there

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 11>and do any reporting at all. Nobody no more in

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 11>DC has seemed very motivated to find out about this

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 11>in the way that they wanted to know every single

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 11>thing about Joe Biden's health when he was experiencing some problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, no, no, for sure, for sure.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I also want to ask you when we look at

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>this moment here, what do you think when you look

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>at the House and the Senate?

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>What are the Senate races? House races?

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like people are still not are sleeping on

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>besides Iowa.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I think I think we've got to watch

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 11>Maine again because you know the Platiner Brew Haha. You

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 11>know a lot of people Von and the Democratic Party

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 11>it's over, it's over, it's over. Well, Tony's actually posting

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 11>up some pretty good numbers. And I think that Collins

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 11>is in a tougher position than she was in a

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 11>weird way because Platner was an unknown quantity with bad

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 11>oppo and Tony is a known quantity with you know,

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 11>maybe he's got a temper, but I don't think that's

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 11>a disqualifier now. And and I think that race is

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 11>when people got to put their eyes back on. And

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 11>I think her people had a premature victory lap when

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 11>they got rid of Yeah, I think so Jim.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean I also think, I mean.

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>She is the kaiser soosee of all of this, Like

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>she has managed to survive. I mean I've seen polls

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>with her, you know, down six and then she comes

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>out to win.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So but I do think believe me.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 11>In twenty twenty one of her people called me on

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 11>election Nai was like livid with me, like so angry

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 11>because our last part, you know, you get you bastards

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 11>did this to her and Eda da da da, And

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 11>he's like, we were eight points ahead and you know

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 11>two months ago, and now we last night we finished six,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 11>six or seven points back, and you bastards did this,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 11>and well she won the next day. She blew us

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 11>out right right. So I don't know how that. I

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 11>don't know how that happened, but you know, and she's

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 11>hadn't she said, six more years of Trump since then,

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 11>And it's all.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So there's that she's signed the death warrant for Roe v.

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Wade by voting for Kavanaugh. But I also think no

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Gorsic by voting for Gorsich. But I also think part

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of it it is this she has managed to really

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>be this kind of She's been able to be this

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>last like Trump, but not Trump right, not piss him

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>off the way a corner in her Cassidy has, but

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>not be trumpy. And I just don't think I think

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that world is over. And then I also think Troy

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>has this thing, which is he really does seem like

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he's of the place. And and I.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 11>Was I saying Tony, I think I'm saying Tony Troy.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 11>He does come across as a genuine downies kind of

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 11>main guy. You know, he's rough on the edge.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 10>A little bit.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 11>He's not He's not the smooth, modulated politician that that

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 11>you know a lot of people are. And it's okay,

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 11>there's nothing wrong with that in this day and age

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 11>at all.

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think I think that it's two things, right.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that he's he and like even the

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>opo that they have on him, they're like, he married

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>his second cousin.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like that part of Maine, that's what it is.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Man Like, there's two hundred people in that town.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 11>Listen, if marrying your second cousin was was illegal, the

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 11>marriage rate in the state of Florida would drop significantly.

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 4>I've seen it.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I already married his first cousin.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 11>Okay, folks.

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>But I also think it's like he's fifth generation Maine.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like a genuine and and he's a longer and

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>he really does sound like a manor.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 11>He's a manor. He's a real guy and and and look,

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 11>authenticity overcomes a lot of a lot of elite qualms

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 11>about people.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 11>It is why if you would con if Platner didn't

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 11>have all of the stuff right his the sense of

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 11>connection he was building with people in Maine would have

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 11>would have been a blowout. It would have been it

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 11>would have been a knockout blow And I think this

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 11>partly reflects the fact that they realize in this day

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 11>and age. Susan Collins can't just fake being the moderate. Yeah,

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 11>you can't just pretend anymore. The world knows everything about everything,

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 11>and it's hard for her to do that.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 10>I'm going to be this and then in the middle.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 11>I'm not gonna get but she never does. She always

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 11>votes for Trump in the end ninety nine percent of

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 11>the time, So people get it. I'm watching that race.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 11>I think we've got to watch the Katie Hobbs race

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 11>out there. And Republicans are starting to think that that's

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 11>a place they can pour a lot of money into.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 11>I don't think it's gonna work because I think Andy

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 11>Biggs is a lunatic and a rabid creature. Yeah, but

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 11>I've heard some Republicans I was saying, that's one we

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 11>can do, and that's our future. And good luck.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Rick Wilson, Molly drunk Fast. Will you come back?

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 4>I sure will.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Darcy is the founder of Status News. Welcome, Welcome,

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Oliver Darcy.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 10>I'm Allin'm excited to be here.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 1>You write this amazing media newsletter called Status the Media.

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a a lot of shit going down.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't decide whether we should start with what Barry's

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>done or what Bearry wants let's talk about the merger,

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because it's really interesting. I would love you to start

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>by sort of painting the picture of what's happening here

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>with Paramount merger.

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<v Speaker 10>Sure, it's complex, but it's simple at the same time.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 10>So Paramount, which is the owner, it's a media conglomerate

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 10>in itself, not only owns Paramount Pictures, which I think

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 10>a lot of people are familiar with, but it owns

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 10>a bunch of cable networks, and it owns CBS, which

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 10>means it owns CBS News, and it controls programs like

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 10>sixty Minutes. Paramount is headed by a man named David Allison,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 10>and he would like to purchase another media conglomerate called

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 10>Warner brother Discovery, and that company owns HBO Max, it

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 10>owns Warner Brothers Pictures. It also owns a bunch of

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 10>cable networks, including CNN, And this has caused a lot

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 10>of controversy for a few reasons, but one is that

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 10>they need to make this deal happen. They need a

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 10>clearance from regulators, both federal and state and international regulators.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 10>And to get clear into the federal regulators, which is

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump's Department of Justice, they have to clear this.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 10>They needed Donald Trump basically to sign off on this,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 10>and so you've seen over the past year David Ellison

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 10>have a very cozy relationship with Donald Trump. And one

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 10>of the things that has been obvious is that CBS

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 10>News under David Ellison has been a lot closer to

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 10>the administration than a lot of people would like to see.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 10>And there's been reporting that if David Ellison were to

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 10>control CNN, they would make changes to make Donald Trump happy.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 10>And the other thing to keep in mind is that

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump, you know, he is not a Paramount plus viewer, right,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 10>He is not watching Landman on Paramount. He's probably not

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 10>watching the Tom Cruise movies. What Donald Trump cares about

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 10>and what he watches is the news. So if you

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 10>want to make Donald Trump happy, one he wants CBS

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 10>News in particularly sixty minutes, to be in his court.

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 10>And two, he has said out loud that any deal

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 10>that involves Warner brother Discovery needs to involve CNN, it

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 10>needs to involve CNN changing ownership hands. And so this

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 10>entire deal really has hinged on how Donald Trump is

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 10>portrayed by these two news outlets and what David Ellison

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 10>would do with CNN, should it be under his control?

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 10>Because the only way Donald Trump is signing off on

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 10>this deal is if he likes the way he's being

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 10>portrayed by CBS News and if he feels that CNN

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 10>is going to be more favorable to him, should he

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 10>give his blessing. Otherwise this deal is not going through.

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 10>And Donald Trump's DJ did sign off on the deal.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 10>The only problem is and perhaps David Ellison and his

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 10>team at Paramount didn't anticipate this, But the States Office

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 10>also have a say in this, and so you've seen

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 10>the states, a dozen of them, led by California, follow lawsuits.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Rom Bonta right.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 10>Rob Bonta, Yes. The Attorney general there while the lawsuit

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 10>to block this steal on antitrust grounds, arguing that these

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 10>two companies consolidating is not good for consumers and it's

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 10>not good for the industries either.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I have a couple of questions.

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>But the first is sky Dance, which is this big

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>company which David Allison is heading, which is right, one

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>of the investors has money from the Qatars and from

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>other Middle Eastern entities. Aren't American news channels not supposed

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to take money from foreign entities.

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.959
<v Speaker 10>This is actually very true, Meli. I mean, it would

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 10>be a scandal in any other era if CNN could

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 10>be partly owned by the Saudis, which literally just directed

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 10>the brutal murder of a journalist only a few years ago.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 10>But I think it speaks to how much corruption has

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 10>been involved domestically with this deal with the Ellisons, that

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 10>that is sort of a side note. Like, by the way,

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 10>not only will David Ellison on this, not only will

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump probably get what he wants, but all these

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 10>Middle Eastern countries which don't have the best record with

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 10>the press, particularly Saudi Arabia, are also going to be

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 10>part owners in CNN, and they're also going to be

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 10>part owners of CBS News. That is wild, That is

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 10>that would be unacceptable. I mean, if you had gone

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 10>back in time ten years ago, the idea that these outlets,

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 10>particularly seen it and because of its global reach, could

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 10>be involved in a deal like this and own a

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 10>company like this would have been grounds for not approving

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 10>the deal just to begin with. And you've seen some

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 10>congressional Democrats in the Senate and I believe in the

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 10>House express alarm about this. It's just that the federal

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 10>regulators have not really done anything, and people would say

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 10>that's because Donald Trump controls the DOJ. He has a

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 10>tight grip on that DOJ, and he wants this deal

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 10>to go through because he really I mean, if you

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 10>think about what Donald Trump wants, he has been at

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 10>war with CNN for over a decade. There is nothing

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 10>more that he would like than to breach the walls

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 10>of CNN and to have outlet in the hands of

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 10>an ally, and that is you know what he would

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 10>get if this deal goes through.

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I think.

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You're right about the canceling things Trump doesn't like, and

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a good example of this is the Cherry Redstone canceled

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Colbert in order to get regulatory approval from the Trump administration.

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a very clear decision to try

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to get this together, and it worked, right or at least,

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why they can't They'll say they canceled

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Colbert for other reasons, but clearly that was part of it.

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if you could talk about the way

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this deal is structured. First of all, it was a

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of money put in by the Allisons, and then

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the Allisons also backstopped the money, right so now Oracle's

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>worth quite a lot less than it was when this

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>deal started. So there is this scenario even though if

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they lose an investor, our Oracle could be on the hook.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of different scenarios Oracles on the

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>hook for a lot of money. Can you talk us

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:07.479
<v Speaker 1>through those?

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 10>Yeah? And also keep in mind that you know these

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 10>Middle Eastern countries, given the war and the pressures on

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 10>their pocketbooks. I mean, they think there's a lot of

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 10>pressure on the people backing this deal financially. And the

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 10>way this deal works is that if this deal does

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 10>not close, which means it does not get regulatory approval

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:29.479
<v Speaker 10>by September thirtieth, David Allison and Larry Ellison ultimately, because

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 10>this is this is his money, they're on the hook

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 10>for what it's called a ticking fee, which means they

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 10>have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 10>to Warner Brothers shareholders if this deal does not close.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 10>It's a line in the deal they had put to

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 10>win over this deal from Netflix, So there was a

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 10>if you go back. Netflix had struck a deal with

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 10>one of brothers, Discovery, to buy the HBO Max streamer

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 10>to buy the movie Studio, and that deal was done,

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 10>and there was a lot of concern you know, from

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 10>from the media industry or from you know people, There

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 10>are a lot of worries or whatever that Netflix was

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 10>not going to get regulatory approval from on anti trust

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.439
<v Speaker 10>ground to close this deal. Because Netflix is the number

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 10>one streamer buying the number three streamer, that would present

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 10>some legitimate anti trust concerns. So David Ellison came along

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 10>and he said, actually, not only do we think our

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 10>deal is better, but we'll sweeten the pot. We're so

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 10>confident that we can close this deal when Netflix can't

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 10>that if we don't do it by September thirtieth, we

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 10>will pay you guys this extra fee and every day

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 10>that this deal is not closed, we will keep paying

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 10>one of Brother Discovery shareholders because we're confident we can

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 10>close the deal. And they were probably confident they can

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 10>close the deal because they thought they had Donald Trump,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 10>and they did in his pocket right like he was

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 10>going to approve the deal. They did not anticipate the

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 10>States doing to block the deal. So long story short,

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 10>if this deal does not close, which is not going

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 10>to close, it seems like by September thirtieth, maybe it will,

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 10>but it doesn't seem like it's going to close.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Both the Allisons and the Democratic Ags have said this

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that it's not going to close by September thirtieth.

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 10>They will owe a lot of money to one of

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 10>the Discovery shareholders, and the longer this drags out, the

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 10>more money they're gonna owe. And that's important because as

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 10>you said, you know, Oracle's stock is not doing as

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 10>well as it once was, right, It's down quite a

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 10>bit in the last year, and there are a lot

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 10>of financial pressures on these Middle Eastern countries as Donald

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 10>Trump's warn Iran rages on, and so, you know, I

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 10>think there's maybe less of an appetite to eat a

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.760
<v Speaker 10>lot of this cost if they can't get this deal approved.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 10>And so it's just a matter of time.

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 10>They've said basically they'll they'll give it till next next summer.

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 10>But if it's not closed by next summer, it doesn't

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 10>seem like this deal is going through. And I think

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 10>a lot of that has to do with, you know,

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 10>their willingness. They they don't want to spend capital just waiting.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Around if it doesn't close. The Allisons are on the

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>hook for seven billion dollars. Right, there are all sorts

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of penalties filled into the because of having this second bidder,

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Allisons have agreed to a contract the not as

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>good as it would have been had there been just

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>one vedder, and so the Warner shareholders get a lot

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of stuff that they might not otherwise get. Right, Like

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a big penalty fee explains that.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a breakup fee, and that's not uncommon when

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 10>organizations are merging. Usually there is some sort of breakup

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 10>feel like if it doesn't go through, we will owe

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 10>you this much money. So yes, not only do they

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 10>owe money because of the ticking fee, but if it

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 10>doesn't go through at all, they have this big breakup

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 10>fee that they have to pay shareholders. So you know

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 10>they're going to be paying money to Warner by the

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 10>Discovery shareholders. And a lot of that is because you know,

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 10>they had a deal with Netflix and that deal was

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 10>scuttled to make way for the new suitor with Paramount,

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 10>and so you know, like they want their money, Like

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 10>you know, they they've put this out themselves in a position.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 10>They said no to Netflix, and so that deals out

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 10>the window could come back, but it's out the window

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 10>for now. This is all because David Allison was so

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 10>confident that he could close the deal because of Donald Trump.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 10>I think a lot of these hinges on on Donald

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 10>Trump granting clearance for this deal. The DOJ reportedly, you know,

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 10>senior leaders of the DJ according to the Wall Street Journal,

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 10>over road concerns that prosecutors had that career prosecutors had

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 10>with this deal and just cleared it. This is according

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 10>to the Wall Street Journal. And you wonder why that

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 10>would happen. It's again because Donald Trump likely wants to

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 10>steal to close like he's he's the guy that's that's

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 10>that's making these calls. He's using government, you know, in

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 10>a very weaponized way. It's not surprising that he would

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 10>give a favor out to an ally. But Donald Trump

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 10>does not control all the states. And you've seen the

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 10>states be successful too. We should know in other cases

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.439
<v Speaker 10>where the federal government has granted clearance and the states

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 10>have said wait a second. And the most notable example

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 10>is Nextstar in Tegna. These two local station giants, and

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 10>Next Star has done everything they can to win Donald

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 10>Trump's favorite, talking about how they're not fake news and

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 10>all this other you know, using in all the right

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 10>words to woo Donald Trump. His DOJ cleared that deal,

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 10>California and other states sued, and even after it closed,

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 10>the judge has kind of put a hold on it

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 10>and said, don't integrate any further. We're going to play

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 10>this out and see if this is actually legal.

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's super interesting. So just give me a sense

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>of what happens now.

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It's put on hold for a year, right, isn't this

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>deal put there's some explain where the courts have left it.

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 10>Well, they need to do a trial, so it's on

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 10>hold until a trial is completed. And Paramounts obviously going

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 10>to argue that we need to have this trial as

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 10>soon as possible. It's be speedy. They said, basically, if

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 10>this deal's not done by next summer, then we're at

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 10>the end of the line, and I guess they're out,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 10>but they want a trial later this year. I'm not

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 10>an anti trust lawyer, so I don't know you know

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 10>how to analyze this. I can only look at what

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 10>you know. Tell you what other anti trust experts are

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 10>telling us. When we asked a wide array of them,

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 10>or my calling Natalie Korak, she messaged a bunch of experts,

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 10>and you know, the general consensus is that paramounts not

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 10>you know, they don't have maybe the best case here,

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 10>like they could very well lose a trial. I think,

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 10>if you know, I'm a betting man, If I was betting,

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 10>I would bet that David Ellison and his team at

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 10>Paramount are putting together a potential settlement deals or some offers,

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 10>trying to figure out a way to get this approved

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 10>without going to trial. But we'll see.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Barry Weiss is in charge of CBS.

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Now. CBS is actually not that much stuff. It's only

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a few news programs but the biggest and it's just

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the nightly news, which she has put her ideological spin

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.919
<v Speaker 1>on and and the numbers tell us about the ratings there.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So Barry Wise has come into CBS News and

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 10>she's made a lot of changes pretty quickly. You know,

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 10>she hasn't even been there for a year, and she's

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 10>upended a number of the shows. Most notably, I think

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 10>is sixty Minutes, but let's put that aside for now.

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 10>The first change she made was to hire or to

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 10>tap Tony Deakoppel, who is a morning show anchor on

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 10>the CBS Mornings and move them from that show to

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 10>the Evening News, and this has been a disaster in

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 10>the ratings. And that's typically how you judge the success

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 10>of television news programs, right, Maybe you judge them based

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 10>on how many Emmys they win or how many awards

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.399
<v Speaker 10>they win. That's not really how a lot of these

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:12.720
<v Speaker 10>shows are judge, at least commercially. It's about the ratings,

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 10>and the ratings were bad before that put Tony in,

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 10>Like it made sense why they would want to revamp

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 10>the show. CBS has always been in third place. But

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 10>the latest version of the CBS Any News feature two hosts,

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 10>it wasn't very good. It was not doing well in

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 10>the ratings. It actually collapsed in the ratings, and we

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 10>had covered that, and so it made sense you want

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 10>to put a new anchor in. But Tony has done terrible,

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 10>and you know, you're seeing historic low ratings for the

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 10>CBS Evening News, historic low ratings, like the worst ratings

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<v Speaker 10>of the twenty first century. Literally, And not only should

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<v Speaker 10>we say CBS Evening News isn't doing well, but the

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<v Speaker 10>Morning Show, which is led by a Gail King, which

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<v Speaker 10>is down a host because she moved Tony de Kopple

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<v Speaker 10>from the morning show to the evening news. They're posting

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<v Speaker 10>the worst ratings in the show's entire history. So you

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<v Speaker 10>look at the backdrop for how Barrier Wiss is coming

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<v Speaker 10>in to revamp sixty Minutes, and people at CBS News

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<v Speaker 10>right look like you don't have a good track record, Barry.

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<v Speaker 10>The shows that you've meddled with, the shows that you've

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<v Speaker 10>put your stamp on, are really not doing well at all.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean they're performing abysmally. And not only is that

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<v Speaker 10>the case, but you have no television news experience Berry

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<v Speaker 10>like she used to apparently boast that she didn't own

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<v Speaker 10>a TV. The people she's hired have no television news experience.

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<v Speaker 10>So her two deputies, they come from a print background.

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<v Speaker 10>They don't have any new televisions experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are her two deputies.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a man named Charles Farrell. He came from the

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<v Speaker 10>Wall Street Journal. He's the managing editor of CBS News.

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<v Speaker 10>Then there is Edit Raumstein, he's the deputy editor at

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<v Speaker 10>CBS News. These are typically actually not even television titles,

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<v Speaker 10>but she's implemented it, so we'll go with it. And

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 10>then you know her had a talent. I believe you

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<v Speaker 10>know one of them, at least a key executive came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Substack right and then Nick Belton.

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<v Speaker 10>And then Nick built into the executive producer of sixty minutes. Now,

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 10>he is a print guy. He had a career Vanity

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<v Speaker 10>Fair and he's done some documentaries, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 10>he's a print guy. He's not a broadcast news guy.

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<v Speaker 10>And so people at sixteen minutes are just worried from

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<v Speaker 10>a competence level, from a production standpoint level, like these

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<v Speaker 10>are people who don't know how to make television news

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 10>and it's complicated, Molly. Like I was talking to someone

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<v Speaker 10>earlier today, I have a print background, okay, but I

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 10>worked at CNN for a while, but I have I

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<v Speaker 10>mostly print, right, Like I do you print? I do YouTube.

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<v Speaker 10>When I was at CNN, you know, I was learning

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<v Speaker 10>how to make packages for television, and that is a

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 10>totally different skill than writing a column for the New

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 10>York Times than writing a print story. Like I will

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<v Speaker 10>tell you just to get the voice right where it's

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 10>the voiceover, the pictures on the screening and all that

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 10>stuff that is way more complicated and takes way more

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 10>talent in training than you would imagine. It's called your

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 10>tracking voice, and I was being coached. They had a

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 10>coach at CNN that would come in and he would

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 10>talk to you about how to improve your tracking voice.

0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 10>And you think, Oliver, that is so easy. You just

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 10>talk into a microphone. And then you watch it back

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:04.879
<v Speaker 10>and you're like, wow, that is crunch. It doesn't sound

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 10>anything like you know when the professionals do it like.

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 10>It is an art. Just to do a tracking voice.

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<v Speaker 10>To have to narrate that, that takes literally dozens and

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 10>dozens of hours of training. You know, at TNN, I

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 10>was doing it. I would have an hour every week

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 10>or so and they would come in and having read

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.959
<v Speaker 10>scripts and they would give you notes and you would

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 10>again you would watch it back and think, wow, do

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 10>I really sound like that? And why is it so bad?

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 10>But that just to track the piece. When you write

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 10>a television news piece, it's different. I would write a

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 10>script and then I would come to say it and

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 10>be like, that's not That's not how you talk in

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 10>real life, So that won't work, so you have to

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 10>rewrite it. Anyway. Long story short, making TV this is

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 10>These are for easy quick packages. Making a thirteen minute

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 10>CBS crazy investigative package that's suited, that's fit for sixty minutes,

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 10>the crown Jewel a broadcast news television. It takes a

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 10>lot of skills that a lot of these people just

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 10>don't have or might not even think of right and

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.719
<v Speaker 10>so from a competence level, these people are worried. And

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 10>then there's the politics of it all, which is that

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 10>you've had Scott Pelly, you've had Cecilia Vega, you've had

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 10>Sharon al Fonsi. They've all come out, those were all fired.

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 10>They're all fired by Barry Wis the way. But they've

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 10>all come out and said that she is inserting political

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 10>bias or misinformation into their stories, and that is causing

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 10>alarm inside this show team. And so you know, and

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 10>then you think about the backdrop this is happening on again.

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 10>Remember the backdrop is that David Ellison, the owner of Paramounts,

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 10>the owner of CBS News, needs to make sure that

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump is happy with him so that he can

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 10>get a deal across the finish line. So it's hard

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 10>to ignore that context. Now, maybe they would say there's

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 10>nothing related, you know, we don't talk to Dave. I'm

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 10>sure that would be what to say. But like at

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 10>the same time, it's difficult to avoid looking at these

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.479
<v Speaker 10>two things. They're not not related, right. And the only

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 10>thing again, when you think about it, that Donald Trump

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 10>cares about when it comes to Paramount's entire portfolio is

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 10>he cares about how he's covered on really a couple

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 10>of programs, and one of them is sixty Minutes. He

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 10>sued sixty minutes. If you remember, like that was one

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 10>of the shows you sued.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 12>Oliver Darcy, thank you, thank you, Molly, No moment, Wick Wilson,

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<v Speaker 12>Molly John Fast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is time for that moment of moment, that.

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<v Speaker 11>Beautiful moment we share every week of your fuckery. I

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.440
<v Speaker 11>don't know about you, but Mama want to fuckerated this

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 11>week's amazing Wall Street Journal article about how the Republicans

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<v Speaker 11>are maintaining this cash advantage in part because major donors

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 11>have now said about the DNC that it stands for

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 11>it do not contribute, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ironic because remember Trump had that thing where they called

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<v Speaker 1>the DN I do not invite.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Telsea Gabbard was never allowed to come to

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>any cabinet meetings because she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Dn I do not invite.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the problem created by Democrats for Democrats hurting Democrats.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, this is one of the things that voters

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 11>want to see. And I've said this phrase a lot

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 11>in the South. If you're at a fight, you want

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 11>to see some fight in the dog and they don't

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 11>feel that fight coming from Ken Martin and just an

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 11>honest answer. You very affable guy, very nice guy. But

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:11.359
<v Speaker 11>I think a lot of Democratic donors want a wartime consigliary, right.

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 11>They want somebody who's going to go and be an

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 11>absolute fighter and he's sort of captive to the Democratic

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 11>DC consultocracy, and the donors are just like, nope, we're done.

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 11>Look they're giving lots of money to the candidates, they're

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 11>not giving lots of money to the party, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm telling you this is such a

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<v Speaker 1>good example of like a problem that is created. I mean,

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 1>like there's no world in which any of this should

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>be happening like Democrats. And you know, I just want

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to say one to think the polling when you look

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 1>at the polling on this, like all people want when

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at Democrats, why they're mad at their own

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 1>party is because they want them to fight. That's it.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:52.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not even ideological.

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<v Speaker 11>Just go out and fucking fight. It's the simplest thing

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 11>in the world. They want you to fight, and they

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 11>don't want sternly warded. They want people going upside the

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 11>head of the bad guys. It's just that simple.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are, and here we are, Quick Wilson.

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<v Speaker 10>Why we drove fast. We'll see you next time.

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