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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson show

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lowie, he is Matt Williamson, and this

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Speaker 1: is the Drive, and we are taking a look at

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Speaker 1: the Steelers' depth chart coming out of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three draft and deciding whether we'd like it better or

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Speaker 1: worse or the same. Just assessing it based on what

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Speaker 1: we felt about the team last year at this time

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Speaker 1: compared to this year. And you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: you know, we looked at the offense there in the

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Speaker 1: previous segment and felt pretty good about that. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a look now at the defense and see how we

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Speaker 1: feel about this. And we'll start as we typically do, upfront,

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Speaker 1: with the defensive line. You got Cam Hayward there. They

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Speaker 1: signed Larry Ogan Jobi, you got the Marvin Leal, you

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Speaker 1: got Montravius Adams. They signed our Mom Watson free agency.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Ludermilk is back. They signed Braden Fajeko in free agency.

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Speaker 1: They added Jonathan Marshall last year late in the year

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: He's not a nobody.

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Speaker 1: He's not a nobody, right Renelle ren Is there, and

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Speaker 1: then of course in the draft in the second round,

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Speaker 1: they selected kean U Benton.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm trying to be as fair as possible

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Speaker 2: in that I have to say I feel better about

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Speaker 2: Cam than than now, just because it's one more year,

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Speaker 2: one more ring on the on the tree, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But he played pretty well, but it's slight, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, Like, feel better about the year he's

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Speaker 2: about to have. I would say I feel better about

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Speaker 2: it last year because.

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Speaker 1: He's the interesting thing about this group, mattis. So the

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Speaker 1: guys who aren't there anymore are Chris Wormley, Entyson, A Lululu.

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Speaker 2: I was about to bring up a Lulu next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, going into last year, you looked at Lulu like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we know what he.

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Speaker 2: Is, right and he let it down, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: that's what I mean that he.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that guy anymore right now. Maybe that was coming

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Speaker 1: off the ankle injury and that, you know, the things

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Speaker 1: of that nature, that he just didn't get it back.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but I'm not saying that's gonna happen to Cam.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I was implying there. But one year

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Speaker 2: ago I felt better about the nose situation than I

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Speaker 2: do now, And I'm not sure if I'm calling bent

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Speaker 2: in a nose or not whatever, But I mean my

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Speaker 2: argument for last year at this time is I slightly

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Speaker 2: feel better about Cam Hayward, but that's splitting hairs. I

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Speaker 2: feel much better about a Lululu then than what he

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Speaker 2: put on the field. What about Oguin Jobi same I

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Speaker 2: like to pick up then. I thought he was a

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Speaker 2: good player. I thought his season was a little disappointing,

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Speaker 2: but slightly, like right below the expectation. But I also

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Speaker 2: think he was injured a lot, so I'm going to

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Speaker 2: call that a wash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 2: But I was higher on louder Milk then than now.

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Speaker 1: But I've known a lot more about the Marvin Leal

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Speaker 1: than I did a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm higher on Benton now than I was

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Speaker 2: louder Milk then.

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Speaker 1: Right right, And I actually feel pretty good about the

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Speaker 1: additions of Fojoko and Watts. I think those guys are

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Speaker 1: NFL quality NFL players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would take those guys my thoughts

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Speaker 2: on them now over warmly then, but normally was quality

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Speaker 1: Man Coleve was coming off a year when he had

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Speaker 1: seven and a half sacks two years ago, so it's

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Speaker 1: not like he was terrible.

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Speaker 2: This one's kind of closed. But that doesn't sound like

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Speaker 2: it should be because I'm really high on the D

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Speaker 2: line right now. You know. I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I thought a Lululu was still a

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Speaker 1: Which didn't happen. You know, for the most part, they

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Speaker 2: But we liked the pickings pick too. But you can't say, oh,

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Speaker 2: the second rounder is going to be a star, you know,

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Speaker 2: just because we like them on draft day, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's going on, yeah, that one's close. But

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Speaker 2: I think I'm with you on last year.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at outside linebacker. He got TJ. Watt, you

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Speaker 1: They brought back Quincy Roche. You've got the Emique A

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Speaker 2: So it's sort of like the Cam conversation, but you

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Speaker 2: have to go lower on what I mean. He was

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Speaker 2: the second best defensive player on the planet three and

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Speaker 2: sixty five days ago. Now he might be fifth.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was the best defensive player in the planet.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the you know who won the

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year voting.

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Speaker 2: Right, But I was putting them behind Aaron Donald out

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Alex high Smith.

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Speaker 2: He goes up dramatically.

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Speaker 1: Dramatically. You looked at Alex high Smith a year ago

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Speaker 1: he's going to be He's going to be Robin. He's

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Speaker 1: a good Robin. He's going to get your eight sacks

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Speaker 2: Year, a lot of them on his own, without.

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Speaker 1: Without without a lot on the other side. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right. So it's like he's like what might go from

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Speaker 2: high Smith goes from a seventy eight to an eighty

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Speaker 1: But is big and I you know my nick herbig Love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think he stays at outside linebacker. I've

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Speaker 2: well enough and be a quality third dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean guys guys that get twenty sacks in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think he could put on five to

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Speaker 2: ten pounds a muscle too. Yeah. Who was the third

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Speaker 1: They remember if at this time they didn't have him,

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Speaker 1: they made the trade with the with the Broncos to

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Speaker 1: get Milly Greed.

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Speaker 2: So I guess he doesn't count.

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Speaker 1: So it has to be you have to like this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean even if you have doubts about

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Speaker 2: if if you were taking that stands, which I'm not.

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Speaker 2: This group's better.

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Speaker 1: I mean even Roche is probably better than anybody that

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Speaker 2: I don't remember if Jamiir Jones was on the team.

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Speaker 1: Jamiir john I believe Jamiir Jones was there. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but Jamier Jones wasn't. He wasn't anything proven at that point.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he's a special team or too. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's definitely better. Linebacker's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 1: Linebacker's going to be extremely hard, Yes, because it's completely different.

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Speaker 1: Honest with yourself, it's it's completely different. You know. So

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Speaker 1: free agent signing. They added Tay Crowder last year during

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Speaker 1: the season. Mark Robinson was a six round draft pick

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Speaker 1: last year. And then Russell Chappelle or Chappelle Russell, I

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: They you know they've added him as well, and you

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Speaker 1: look at what they had there last year. It was

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush. I'm trying to think that they yeah, that

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Speaker 2: The hard thing is forgetting what you saw during the

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Speaker 2: season from that and going back in time to what

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Speaker 2: you thought then.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was I was high on Miles Shack.

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Speaker 1: There's no offens or butts about that. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that Devin Bush would have a bounce back.

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Speaker 2: Here exactly, you know all along I mean his.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Splaine is what he is, said, Marcus Allen is

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Speaker 1: what he is. You know. Those guys don't really move

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Speaker 2: I liket year's group better. I like Hulcombe. I expect

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Speaker 2: tape last year. But my thoughts of Jack and Bush

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Speaker 2: what this Mark Robinson Dude's all about. I felt better

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Speaker 2: I wasn't right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably with you on that one. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think if we were looking at the players based

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Speaker 1: Miles Shack's a better player than Cole Hulcomb. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the case right now.

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Speaker 2: No, not right now, it isn't Yehud, you consider bringing

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Speaker 2: Miles Jack back if he had any.

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Speaker 1: Interest, I would think about it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: He just he just kept getting hurt. I will say

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Speaker 1: this about a Land of Roberts. I like, I like

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Speaker 1: what the Land of Roberts brings to that room in

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Speaker 1: terms of leadership mm hmm, and and and those kind

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Speaker 1: of things, those intangibles.

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Speaker 2: He's supposedly a stud special team or two, which does

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Speaker 2: have value, you know, format with Watt and others. But

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Speaker 2: I was pretty high on the second level last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what about it? Like you said, a Bush bounce back,

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Speaker 2: and boy, they may have solved their problems with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we keep doing this year after

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Speaker 1: you it's not It's not an easy position in today's

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Speaker 2: No, it isn't much harder than people think.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on the cornerback. So the you got Patrick Peterson,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, He's not have an impact on their

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I might have a better opinion of Malet now

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Speaker 2: Right, there's bad teams that have won them, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt, without a doubt. Let's move on

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Speaker 2: Right all right, I mean that really helps Killerbrew's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things will happen. My I mean if if they

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Speaker 2: All things being equal, and you have some cap space

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about way down to depth things here,

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Speaker 1: phones like crazy this summer, Like every time somebody gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: I would be like, hey, you know, how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about Isaiah Ludermilker how do you feel about Braden

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Speaker 1: for Hoko or you know whatever, whoever it may be.

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Speaker 2: On Travis Adams right, and Keellow.

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Speaker 1: Weatherspoon started games in the in the in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's value there.

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Speaker 2: Instead of the Steelers not having a fifth or six

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Speaker 2: round pick to go get Riley Witherspoon, those type of dudes,

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Speaker 2: maybe you get the extra one this year. You're the

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Speaker 2: one on the receiving end of that.

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Speaker 1: Right, because you had the cap space to go out

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Speaker 1: and sign these guys, and the contracts aren't ridiculous. You

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Speaker 1: could trade those pretty easily, exactly.

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Speaker 2: They're they're very feasible when they those guys have track

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Speaker 2: records and tape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's an interesting situation.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad I used a barometer of their opening

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Speaker 2: day roster they kept five of these, six of these, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and here they had seven or eight wide receivers on

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Speaker 2: the opening day roster, which you know, it was too

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Speaker 2: I forget what the circumstances were there.

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Speaker 1: I think there were some. There were some injury. Well,

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Speaker 1: Austin had they had Austin had to be on the roster,

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Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, yeah, because he got injured during camp,

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Speaker 1: so you had to carry him and then place him

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Speaker 1: on ir they you know, they put Anthony Miller on

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Speaker 1: before that. But there, yeah, there was there were some

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Speaker 1: of those machinations there that, you know, case this guy

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Speaker 1: had to get cut, so you could you could get

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Speaker 1: through the fifty three. You could realistically make a fifty

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Speaker 1: You could do a fifty eight man roster with the

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Speaker 1: have played in the NFL or hydrapics this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, Yeah. I think they opened with seven

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Speaker 2: not that's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't happen all the time, so it'd

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Speaker 1: be interesting. But I think we, by and large, we

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Speaker 1: feel a lot better about where the offense was a

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Speaker 1: year ago at this time. The defense is more kind

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Speaker 1: of a wash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we were pretty high in the defense a

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Speaker 2: year ago.

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Speaker 1: We're really high in the defense. It was one of

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Speaker 1: the top defenses in the.

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Speaker 2: League, right right, right, I mean, Heyward, make a TJ.

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Speaker 2: I mean really high gro And again I'm like Jack,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we won't talk specialists. I know people want

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Speaker 1: to hear stuff like that. But I can't see us

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Speaker 1: doing it anyway. We're going to take another break here.

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