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Speaker 1: Hey guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rachel and I'm Allie and welcome you guys to

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Speaker 2: a very special edition of Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Very special edition.

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Speaker 3: It is Ali because normally when we bring you a

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Speaker 3: new podcast, we bring it to you every week, but

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Speaker 3: sometimes if something big happens, which is what we promised

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Speaker 3: you when we have breaking news, we will bring it

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Speaker 3: to you, and that's what we're bringing to you right

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Speaker 3: now in this extra special edition.

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Speaker 4: Rachel is in New York, so she's calling in.

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Speaker 1: Hey Rachel, Yeah, Alie, I could not miss this.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, we really knew that you all

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Speaker 2: have so many questions about Jed and the Hannah situation,

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Speaker 2: and we wanted to get answers for you guys, so

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Speaker 2: we decided instead of waiting until next week for our podcast,

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Speaker 2: and we were going to have this special I guess

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Speaker 2: we'd like to say emergency edition of a Bachelor Happy Hour,

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Speaker 2: so you guys can get your questions answered. Jed flew

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Speaker 2: in last night to Los Angeles and he is coming.

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Speaker 2: He's sitting down with us. Actually he's sitting right across

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Speaker 2: from you right now, so let me not talk about

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Speaker 2: him like he's in the third person. Jed welcome to

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Speaker 2: our podcast. Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we know you're tired, we know you're exhausted.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to take up a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: your time, but we definitely just want to get right

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 6: Right Ali, Yes, all right, Okay, So I think first,

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Speaker 6: just to start it off, what do you want people

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Speaker 6: to know right now?

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Speaker 7: I think the main thing really is just how how

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Speaker 7: sorry I am.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've just.

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Speaker 7: Really had time to think about the things that have

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Speaker 7: happened and how Hannah has felt, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: very remorseful and ultimately just want to become a better

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Speaker 7: person because of all this, and that's really my main

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Speaker 3: But Jed, you know, we we I saw your interview

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Speaker 3: on GMA, we watched it. We saw you on AFR

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Speaker 3: where you apologized, and I feel like that.

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Speaker 1: That's what we've gotten from you.

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Speaker 3: You seem very sincere, you seem very remorseful about the

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Speaker 3: whole situation and how it went down, and we understand

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Speaker 3: that absolutely. I feel like there's more to it. We've

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Speaker 3: heard you apologize, but we haven't heard your side of

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Speaker 3: chance for you to just speak freely and tell your

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Speaker 3: it to this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jed too.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, like, I want you to feel

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Speaker 2: comfortable in this situation because I feel for you, Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, like you have been like I what you

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Speaker 2: did obviously is wrong.

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Speaker 4: You know that, right.

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Speaker 2: You apologize for it very sincerely, I believe, And I

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Speaker 2: don't even fault you.

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Speaker 4: For going on the show for your music.

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Speaker 2: I've been very vocal about this since the notion that

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it works. So I don't fault you.

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Speaker 2: If I had a music career now in the Bachelor

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Speaker 4: Go on a Bachelor. So I don't even fault you

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Speaker 4: for that. But that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: I think, Like, like, where do you feel like it

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Speaker 2: for you, like, just talk us through all of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So, like I like I told Hannah, you know I did.

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Speaker 7: I did show up because I knew it was a platform.

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Speaker 5: I knew that.

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Speaker 7: It had a lot of opportunities for adventure. And then

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Speaker 7: coming out of it, you know, all the people that

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Speaker 7: So that was all very intriguing to me. I was

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Speaker 7: And you know, once I was there and I saw

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Speaker 7: And that was kind of the turning point for me

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Speaker 7: you know, going forward, you know, people ask me now, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, you were so honest about that, why weren't

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Speaker 7: you know, I had more closure than Haley. I felt like,

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Speaker 7: stepping into a very unforeseen future that anything could happen.

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Speaker 7: We had talked about all the variables and you know,

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Speaker 7: like it was all discussed and understood that you know,

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Speaker 2: So was that's a great, great question. I love that

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Speaker 2: you just shared that, because then let's look at the

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Speaker 2: I love you right before? So was that like a

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I really did care for Haley. You know, we

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Speaker 7: So I mean I did love her, I did care

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Speaker 7: bad about her. There's nothing bad to be said. But

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Speaker 7: in my head, we had more closure than I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously, go ahead, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to ask you this just piggybacking

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Speaker 1: When you left that note to Haley and you make.

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Speaker 3: Comments that are like you know where my heart will

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Speaker 3: be and I'll see you at the dock. That sounds

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Speaker 3: So if that's how you left her, how do you

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Speaker 3: explain that? What does that mean?

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Speaker 7: I think actually, I know I was just really kind

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Speaker 7: why I would say something like that when you know,

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Speaker 7: I didn't know what I was getting into at all.

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Speaker 7: Like I had not watched collectively, I've probably seen maybe

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Speaker 7: and then I met Hannah and completely fell in love

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Speaker 1: So but Jed, yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: So I'll just preface this by saying I don't agree

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Speaker 1: I have a different view of how I.

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Speaker 3: Interpret the situation. Sure, and so when you say I

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Speaker 3: too as well. Did not watch the show before I

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Speaker 3: I understood that how the show works.

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Speaker 7: For the for the most part, I thought I understood.

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Speaker 7: But you know, it's one of those things that want

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Speaker 7: it's a completely different situation.

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Speaker 4: And I get that.

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Speaker 3: I know the show is about people are finding love

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Speaker 1: You did know that, right, yep?

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Speaker 7: But it's like I had no idea that it would

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Speaker 7: you when even with watching like I didn't watch the

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Speaker 7: I had people in my ear prior to the show

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Speaker 7: I had all these variables going through my head and

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Speaker 5: So I'm and I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's fair Jed, Like I will say, and you

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Speaker 2: I did fall in love with Jason Mesnick' story again

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Speaker 2: this is way back in the day, but like, again.

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Speaker 2: I think most people don't go on the show for love,

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Speaker 2: and that's the truth.

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Speaker 4: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: So I truly don't fault you for it. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's interesting. I think a lot of viewers watched

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Speaker 4: Is it fake? And it's not.

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Speaker 2: But you don't realize that until you get there. You

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Speaker 2: So I feel that I think jed for me like

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Speaker 2: with that information to Hannah, I was like, heck, yes,

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Speaker 4: Show for love.

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Speaker 2: So I actually really appreciated that. I think for me

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Speaker 2: where all sort of fell apart was I know you

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Speaker 2: say you didn't want to tell Hannah out of fear,

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Speaker 2: but when you had to have realized when the information

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Speaker 2: I feel like you were trying to talk your way.

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Speaker 7: Aroun That was one of the hardest conversations I've had

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Speaker 7: in my life. And if it seemed like I was

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Speaker 5: It was just so much.

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Speaker 4: Did you not watch it?

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Speaker 7: Right, Well, God knows if it's still there or not.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was it just landed in my lap.

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Speaker 4: Heart was broken in this. Absolutely have you talked to her.

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Speaker 5: That's what it was.

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Speaker 7: But I practiced meditation. I'm passionate about it. It was

447
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 7: something that I taught her to do to go to

448
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 7: this dock in her mind and to like sit there

449
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 7: and be at peace.

450
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 5: And that's that's what that was.

451
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 4: It's so funny.

452
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: I wish you came out and said that right away,

453
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 2: because that's so interesting, you know what I mean.

454
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 7: I think I just like, when I read it back,

455
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 7: I was like, there's no way anyone would ever believe

456
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 7: me on this, but it's the truth.

457
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 5: Like it's the truth.

458
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 7: I would take a light detector test, like I would

459
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 7: do anything like to say or to prove that that

460
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 7: is true. And I know that Haley, you know, despite

461
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 7: all this and her anger and being hurt, I know

462
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 7: she would tell the truth and say that that was

463
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 7: a metaphor.

464
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually believe you. I'm looking at you, staring.

465
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: You directly in the eyes, and I can tell you're

466
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: telling the truth. Right now, So I a one hundred

467
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: percent believe you, and I think that does make it different.

468
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: Like I think I'm glad you're getting the opportunity to

469
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: share that because I think saying you've been very clear

470
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: that you loved her, or at least what you thought

471
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: was love at the time, and saying I'll meet you

472
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: at the dock, and seeing that's a meditation point like that,

473
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: I can see that as almost like a goodbye.

474
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: I'm kind of doing this unknown, like I don't know

475
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 4: what's going to happen for us.

476
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: I see that now, But what I didn't I didn't

477
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: see it when I thought you were literally meeting her at.

478
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 5: A doc I know.

479
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 7: And that's what like when I read the note back,

480
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 7: I was like God, like, literally everyone is going to

481
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 7: think this and not.

482
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: Believe this, But well, sorry, Jed, go ahead, no, go ahead.

483
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: You have to understand that. The first sentence before that

484
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: is you know where my heart will be?

485
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you owe Haley an apology? And

486
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: are you going to talk to her?

487
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 7: I really just need time to digest everything that has happened. Obviously,

488
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 7: it's been a lot. It's been a lot for Hannah.

489
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 7: It's been a lot for our famili has been a

490
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 7: lot for me, and you know, I would like to

491
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 7: say my piece to.

492
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 5: Her, but it would just take time. I just need time.

493
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Once you proposed to Hannah and then the next

494
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: day you told Hannah about Hailey, then you went home,

495
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: were you like, oh god, what like I have to

496
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: tell Haley something like why.

497
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: Did you decide to ghost her?

498
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: I guess I'm more thinking, did you ever think at

499
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: some point I have to confront Haley again?

500
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 7: I felt like I had closure. It's like, it's clear

501
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 7: to me that she did not at all. Obviously, but

502
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 7: due to our discussions about me stepping into this unforeseen

503
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 7: future and that anything could happen, I really and honestly

504
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 7: assumed that, you know, it was understood that whatever happens happens,

505
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 7: and we wanted the best for one another.

506
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: So you truly felt like I just want to be

507
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 3: clear that when you since you whatever happens happened, and

508
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: what happened was so you were engaged to Hannah. You

509
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: felt like the door was closed with Haley at that

510
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: point and you didn't know her an explanation.

511
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 7: Like I said, again, we had closure over the phone.

512
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 7: I kind of thought that that was what it was like.

513
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 7: We knew that anything could happen, and we wanted the

514
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 7: best for each other, and not out of disrespect, not

515
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 7: out of like hate or anger. We just understood that,

516
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 7: you know, anything could happen. And I mean, I now

517
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 7: see that I was, you know, well, I wasn't like

518
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 7: wrong for feeling how I felt because I cared about

519
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 7: her and I told her that and I was clearly

520
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 7: open about that to her. But I can see how

521
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 7: she's hurt. Like I understand all of that.

522
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: Jedda, I believe you, and I guess the reason I

523
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: just I feel so much for you in the situation

524
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: is because I could have been in your situation because

525
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: I have been very open that I had a boyfriend

526
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: before I went on the show. He treated me like

527
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: dirt and cheated on me like every weekend. But I

528
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: couldn't get out of the relationship, so I went on

529
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: The Bachelor to get out of that relationship to help

530
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: me move on. I think the last text I sent

531
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: before I went on the show was I love you

532
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: to him. I'm actually pretty sure it was. So I

533
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: think people are going to have a hard time understanding

534
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: and I don't because again, I've been in your shoes

535
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: kind of, but people are still and I feel like

536
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but I

537
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: feel like I understand that, whereas people listening are going

538
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: to be like, I still don't get it. You don't

539
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: say I love you, and you know what I said before,

540
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: I'll meet you at the dock or whatever something else,

541
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: you know where my heart, my heart.

542
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: Will be at the dock, Like, well, where was the

543
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: text message that said whatever happens happens.

544
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: Where was the text? I think that's where people get lost.

545
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: Where's the text message that says, you know, I'm open

546
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: to whatever.

547
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: We have an understanding.

548
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: That's what's lacking, right, And I think that's what's hard

549
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: for people to understand.

550
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I doubt you, Jed.

551
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, you know, when it comes to

552
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: the hard facts and the evidence, we only see lawyer

553
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: Rachel that Hale oh yeah, side that Hailey's bringing. But

554
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: I will say that I truly do believe that you

555
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: fell in love with Hannah on the show, and I

556
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: think Ali and I both agree with that.

557
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I believe you fell in love with her.

558
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: I believe that you got scared when when you know

559
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: by the love that you were feeling, and then by

560
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: knowing what you had left at home, and you just

561
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: kind of it seems like you just panicked and thought,

562
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it'll all just disappear, right.

563
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 7: I'll say this, I don't think you have to be

564
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 7: in a labeled relationship to love someone.

565
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: I really don't. And that was the case.

566
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 7: And I'm also confused as to why everyone thinks that

567
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 7: has to be in text for it to have been

568
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 7: a conversation. We had conversation, face to face, conversation about

569
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 7: what could happen, and just because it's not out there

570
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 7: in a text message doesn't mean that that wasn't the case.

571
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: So have you thought about reaching out to Haley and

572
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: being like, hey, like you, can you come forward with

573
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: the truth, because what you're saying is necessarily not you know,

574
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: Can you say these conversations? Can you let people know

575
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: that we had these conversations? You've thought about just asking

576
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: her that because you're obviously being very.

577
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 4: Nice about her. You say she's a great girl.

578
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: You're not going to say anything bad. So I'm guessing

579
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: she's pretty pissed at you. But have you considered just

580
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: being like, hey, do you mind sharing that other side

581
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: of the story. I get that you were hurt when

582
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: you saw I went on the show and actually did,

583
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: because she's probably hurt that you did fall in love.

584
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure she didn't think you would and she thought

585
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: you were coming home to her. That seems like that's

586
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: the scenario here. So have you thought about reaching out

587
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 2: to her about that?

588
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 7: I think that was in her mind the best case scenario,

589
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 7: and I honestly have not. I didn't consider reaching out

590
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 7: because my relationship with Hannah was my number one priority.

591
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question for you, Jed. I personally

592
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: am not as sympathetic to Haley, just to be honest,

593
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: because if you guys had this understanding, she knew exactly

594
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: what you were going on the show to do as well,

595
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: and so at the same time, she's kind of at

596
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: fault as well to a point, right, Like, I get

597
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: that there weren't truths that were told. I understand all that,

598
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: but she agreed for you to go on this show

599
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: and to do what you were doing. So I'm not

600
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: one hundred percent sympathetic towards.

601
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: Some people think she didn't agree, like some people think

602
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: that her heart was like broken and off he was going.

603
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 5: She was very supportive about it.

604
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: Oh exactly, Yeah.

605
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: That says something about her.

606
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: She knew he was going on this show, she knew

607
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: that he was going to use the show initially as

608
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: a platform for his music, and she was okay with it.

609
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Why is nobody saying that that's a character Faull? I'm

610
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: sorry it is. So here's my question to you, Jed.

611
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 3: Do you think that Haley came out because she was

612
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: Do you think that Haley came out to speak to

613
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: the press because she was hurt, or do you think

614
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: she came out to use it as a platform for

615
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: her own music.

616
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 7: I know that she's hurt, but I know also that

617
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 7: there's a good chance that she was seizing the opportunity

618
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 7: as well.

619
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: And of course she was.

620
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: Yet I mean, and you can't really falter for it

621
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: because you did it too.

622
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 7: And I and I yeah, And another thing I don't

623
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 7: understand is like she waited till I had like two

624
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty thousand followers to come out and say this,

625
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 7: So like, I think it was intended to obviously hurt me.

626
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 7: And what I don't understand is if you know, if

627
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 7: you really do love someone, no matter how promising they've

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 7: made it seem. If they're going on a dating show,

629
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 7: regardless of why they're going on a dating show, why

630
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 7: would you stay with them? And like why if for me,

631
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 7: if I was in a relationship, I would not have

632
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 7: gone onto a dating show.

633
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: That's just me.

634
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 7: I'm I'm not a cheater. And you know, and with

635
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 7: my time with Haley, I did hang out with other people.

636
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: I did.

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 7: I did date other people. I slept with other people,

638
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: like I.

639
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 5: We were not in an exclusive relationship.

640
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Does she know that? Did she know you were sleeping

641
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: with other people?

642
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 7: No, because there was no We'd never had conversation, you know,

643
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 7: saying this was this? You know, we we had never

644
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: committed to being in an exclusive relationship. She's rightfully hurt,

645
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 7: and I see that. I understand that. But the facts

646
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 7: are the facts, whether she wants to come forward with

647
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 7: it or not, there was conversation and clarity on my

648
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 7: on my palf.

649
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: What about these reports that once you got back from

650
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: filming you were hooking up and flirting with other women

651
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: while you were still engaged to Hannah.

652
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: Is any of that true?

653
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 5: Absolutely not?

654
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Is it?

655
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: Is it maybe the case that y'all had already broken up,

656
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: because according to Hannah, you guys broke up June eighteenth,

657
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: so or ended the engagement. I should say you guys

658
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: ended the engagement June eighteenth. Is there any truth that

659
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: after that maybe you decided, Okay, well we're done. Maybe

660
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: I'll just, you know, see what else is out there.

661
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 5: My heart was broken?

662
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, I can see the look on your face,

663
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: and that that's factual.

664
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: I want to ask you this question too, before we

665
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: get into things that happened after AFR. And I'm thinking

666
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: of burning questions, and I'm thinking of things that people

667
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: have wondered about you, and now you have your chance

668
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: to talk about and like Allie and I said at

669
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: the beginning, we want to give you that space to

670
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: do that. Once you told Hannah that you initially came

671
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: on the show for your music, why at that point

672
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: did you continue to play your music and showcase it

673
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: throughout the show.

674
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 5: I am so glad that you asked this question.

675
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Good.

676
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 7: So, when I brought my guitar to the show, I

677
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: actually had no idea that I was going to be

678
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 7: able to play as much as I did. I brought

679
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 7: it to have something to do in my downtime. Obviously,

680
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 7: it's my passion.

681
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: I love it.

682
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: I knew that I would be writing in my downtime,

683
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 7: and there's you know, there's times that I would be

684
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 7: like writing a song for Hannah, and you know, someone

685
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 7: from production would hear it.

686
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: I would play it for them.

687
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: They're like, you should play that for her, And then

688
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 7: I was lucky enough to get to do that on

689
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 7: multiple occasions. I never would have dreamed that I got

690
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: to do it as much as I did. And I

691
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 7: can see where people are like, you're showcasing. You're showcasing

692
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 7: your showcasing, when really it was me being given the opportunity.

693
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: Given the opportunity to do to play.

694
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess, can't you understand how, you

695
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: know what I just told this girl that I came

696
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: on this show to use my music, to use this

697
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: platform to showcase my music, and now here you are

698
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: showcasing your music every opportunity that you can get, at

699
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: least what we saw in watching it. I mean all

700
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: the way from the very beginning of stepping out of

701
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: the limo to the proposal at the end, So you

702
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: can understand, how did it never cross your mind?

703
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: You know? What maybe I have to just put the

704
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: guitar down and talk to her.

705
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 7: Prior to me telling Hannah to about how I came

706
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 7: from music, she told me that when I when I

707
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 7: showed up, she was skeptical about the fact that, you know,

708
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 7: I played guitar for a night one and that she

709
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 7: kind of felt like, oh, this is just another guy

710
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 7: here for music. But up to this point, I can

711
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 7: tell that you're here for me, and that was edited

712
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 7: out and that was before I even told her anything,

713
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 7: and I was like, Wow, it's crazy that you just

714
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 7: said that, because then I told her my piece why

715
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 7: I showed up, so she could tell that my emotion

716
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 7: had completely flipped and that I was there for her

717
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: at this point, and on that date.

718
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 5: I was unaware of it.

719
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 7: But they brought my guitar and they put it in

720
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 7: another room and Hannah, after we had talked and she

721
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 7: gave me the rose, led me into this room where

722
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 7: my guitar was and she wanted me to play her

723
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 7: a song. And I happened to have wrote a song

724
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 7: the night before, so she she liked when I played

725
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 7: and wanted me to play. And even after the show

726
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 7: when we were engaged, she was very encouraging and wanted

727
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 7: me to bring my guitar and wanted me to play

728
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 7: for her. And you know that mail lot to me something.

729
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: I love It was your love language.

730
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it is your love language. Well, love language

731
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: is that, Well, it's how he expresses himself. I mean,

732
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: you're a writer, because honestly, I think you express yourself.

733
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: I think watching back sometimes I'd be like, Chad, I

734
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: just want to see more emotion out of you, and

735
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: you're a very like kind of chill guy, and I

736
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: mean I don't want to put words in your mouth,

737
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: but the way I saw it, it was like, that's

738
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: how you express yourself.

739
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 7: Right, I mean, yeah, it's been like that since I

740
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 7: was little. I've been I started on piano when I

741
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 7: was just like five years old. That's just always been Yeah,

742
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 7: it's great outlet.

743
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting that you bring up that Hannah like asked

744
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: you to play for her, like she like enjoyed that,

745
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that encouraged you to do it more,

746
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: knowing that it's something that she really liked that you did.

747
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

748
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, And there was times that like I didn't want

749
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 7: to play because I was like, I don't want her

750
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 7: to feel like this. I don't want her to feel

751
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 7: like this, and her and I had conversations. She never

752
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 7: felt that way. You never felt like I was showcasing.

753
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 7: I can see where the world would would say that,

754
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 7: because it's like almost every episode I came walking up

755
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 7: with that guitar, and I saw so many memes like

756
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: here comes to Jet with that damn guitar.

757
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: I actually got a guitar, many guitar to the podcast

758
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: with me. But no, I'm in look out there.

759
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are just gonna I

760
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 2: feel for you, like in a lot of the situation,

761
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: I definitely think you mess like dub And I've said

762
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: this already at the beginning.

763
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: I'm you messed up with not being super honest about Haley.

764
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: And I know you kind of.

765
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: Think you were, but you weren't, you know, And I

766
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: understand that that came from fear. But I don't blame

767
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: you for the guitar, soft for any of that other stuff.

768
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, But one thing I do want to

769
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: discuss is are you mad at Hannah? Like do you

770
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: have anger towards her at this point?

771
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not angry at all. I think more

772
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 7: than anything, I'm just really sad. I just feel, you

773
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 7: know that, and just like I know she's sad and

774
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 7: hurt too, and I know that she now has her

775
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 7: closure and we'll move on and that's that's that's great.

776
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: But the reason I asked, and this is why I ask,

777
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: because people are gonna be like, what do you mean

778
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: why would he be mad at Hannah? And the reason

779
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: I asked that is because you did like some comments

780
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: on Instagram of people saying she slept with you know,

781
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys.

782
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: Two guys, Why did you do that?

783
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 7: I tapped the comment to go see if he was

784
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 7: replying to someone, and I liked it.

785
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: You tapped the comment to see if who was replying.

786
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: The comment rolled into my notifications. I tapped it. Wherever

787
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 7: I tapped it, it liked it.

788
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: Period.

789
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: Did you not realize that?

790
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 7: Or I had no idea until someone sent me an

791
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 7: article to be like. They were like, why did you

792
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 7: do that? And I was like, oh shit, Like I

793
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 7: didn't mean to do that, wasn't I don't want to

794
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 7: feel that way. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's

795
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 7: like not easy to hear the things that I've heard

796
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 7: watching back on the season. You know, it's like a

797
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 7: really weird thing to see someone that you love so

798
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 7: much be so open about other people.

799
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Are you referring to the windmill?

800
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah, it's like it's it's hard to hear.

801
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 7: I know that's the name of the game, that's the show,

802
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 7: but it's not easy to hear when it's so. That

803
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 7: was a mistake, but I'll own it. I did like it.

804
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: How many comments did you like like that? Was that

805
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 3: the only one?

806
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't know?

807
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

808
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 7: I mean, that's the only one I'm aware of. That's

809
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 7: the only article I've seen.

810
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get that that could be a mistake.

811
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: I mean, but I also get and the reason I

812
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: thought maybe he did like it is I understand how

813
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: hurtful that would be, you know, I being a past specheler,

814
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: I can say that if my who cares about my story.

815
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: But if my top three guy hadn't left me, I

816
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: would have slept with more than one person in the

817
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: fantasy suite.

818
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: I would have.

819
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: I didn't because my guy left me, but I would

820
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: have because I know how important physical intimacy is on

821
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: the show, And if you're about to get engaged with someone,

822
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: you probably want to know, like, do you have a

823
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: physical connection. Yeah, but I also putting myself in the

824
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: other people shoes because I left Top four when I

825
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: was a contestant. That has got to sting. And I

826
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: get that you have a lot of wrongs and you know,

827
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: but it's still your human being and that's got to

828
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: hurt too. Like, what did you did you feel anything

829
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: when she's talking about two times in the windmill?

830
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: Right? Well, it was actually four times.

831
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: Well, but she said two times, you guys are already

832
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: broken up. When she said four times, you'd already.

833
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Split up, but you are engaged when the two times thing?

834
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: Or had you already split up? We had been split

835
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: up at that point, So how did you feel?

836
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 7: It was just, you know, I knew about Peter at

837
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 7: that point. I didn't know the details. I didn't care

838
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 7: to know the details because you know, I just don't

839
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 7: really love to hear about that kind of thing.

840
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's just weird, you know, it's weird.

841
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 7: I think it would be weird for just about anyone

842
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 7: to see someone that you care about a lot be

843
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: open and talk about sleeping with someone else. And you know,

844
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 7: that's her role and this was her journey and she's

845
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 7: not wrong for doing it like there's nothing really wrong

846
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 7: with it, but it does stink, you know. Just there's

847
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 7: not really anything you can do to prepare yourself to

848
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 7: watch someone you care about be open about that.

849
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Allie asks you if you were angry at Hannah,

850
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: But I guess my question is, can you blame Hannah

851
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: for the way that she's reacted since finding out everything

852
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: she did about Hayley?

853
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 7: Absolutely not. She was very straightforward about how she wanted

854
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 7: honesty and openness from the very beginning, from night one,

855
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 7: she was open about that, so I can see entirely

856
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: how and why she feels the way she feels right

857
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 7: now or felt.

858
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I want to follow up on something you said on GMA.

859
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: You know, when you were talking to Michael Strahan, you

860
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: said to him that you had discussed.

861
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: With Hannah Hayley.

862
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: But did your discussions mirror the article that came out

863
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: in People magazine.

864
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 7: There was details in the article that, like I said before,

865
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 7: I wasn't even considering her side or her feelings. I

866
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 7: told her pretty much from my perspective what we were

867
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 7: and what it felt like, without considering how she was feeling.

868
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 7: And that's my fault, and I'll own up to it.

869
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: I want to give you an opportunity to clear things up,

870
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: because this is the first time you've really been able

871
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: to just talk freely. You know, it's not a TV segment,

872
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 3: it's an open conversation, and so I guess i'd also

873
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: ask you, is there something yet that we haven't addressed

874
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: that you want to clear up? Because everyone's been asking

875
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: or assuming certain things.

876
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: I think at this point you can assume that if

877
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: there's a sick eleton in your closet, it's going to

878
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: come out.

879
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 7: At this point, absolutely, there's no I mean, I feel

880
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 7: like We've touched a lot of the points that I've

881
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 7: ever wanted to make that I've kept quiet over because

882
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 7: all I wanted to do is mend the relationship with Hannah.

883
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 7: I didn't come out and defend myself immediately.

884
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 5: I could have.

885
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 7: I could have came out and did any I could

886
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 7: have defended myself off the bat with the Haley situation

887
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 7: and spoke just on behalf of that. But what was

888
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 7: important to me was Hannah and trying to fix that.

889
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: And that's that's just it.

890
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: Have you guys spoken since after the final rows at all?

891
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Or is your contact completely cut off?

892
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 7: We haven't spoken, and you know, I feel like down

893
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 7: the road we could have friendship. I mean, she's great

894
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 7: and we have always got along, we have a great time.

895
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: I think she's an amazing woman. She's strong, she killed

896
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 7: her role at this. I mean, you can't ask for

897
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 7: someone to be more passionate, more open, and she did

898
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 7: everything in my opinion.

899
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: Great.

900
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 7: She did great, and I just I hope down the

901
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 7: road that we can be friends.

902
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: Do you think her and Tyler are going to end

903
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: up together? How do you feel about that situation?

904
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: Uh?

905
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 7: Kind of, Like I said on Good Morning America, I

906
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 7: just had a weird feeling going into after the final

907
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 7: rows that something like that could happen. Tyler's an amazing guy.

908
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 7: I don't fault her for saying what she did or

909
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: asking him.

910
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: Or has your relationship with any of the guys changed

911
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: with all this coming out or have they been supportive?

912
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Because do you talk to the guys.

913
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 7: I could not have asked for, honestly, a better group

914
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 7: of people to go into this with. They've been supportive

915
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 7: and high to me and you know, obviously offering their

916
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 7: opinions on the situation, and you know, telling me things

917
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 7: that you know are helpful and they've I mean they've

918
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 7: they're great friends. I mean, obviously there's a couple that

919
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 7: I don't talk to you as much.

920
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, assuming you don't talk to Luke.

921
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: So, like, did any of the guys like call you

922
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: out and say, hey, Jed, what the heck?

923
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: Or were they like what did they say?

924
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 7: No one called me out. It was it was more

925
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 7: so just Nick Vile. None of the guys on my

926
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 7: season has said anything.

927
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Nicholas, let's expect on that. I don't even

928
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. What is Nick vild been?

929
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. How do you Okay?

930
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: So, I think it's great that you have received support

931
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: from the guys from your season. And I'll be honest,

932
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: I've talked to several guys for in your season, and

933
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: they all have great things to say about you.

934
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Even when I tried to dig and tried to say

935
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: but okay, yeah.

936
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: Peter, he had great things to say about you.

937
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're like, okay, but maybe this No, They're

938
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: like we were.

939
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: We lived with Jed. He's actually a really great guy.

940
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: We understand what you've seen in the media.

941
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: We understand, you know, certain things that have popped up

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: but Jed is really a good person.

943
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Even Hannah said.

944
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, she fell in love with with the goodness,

945
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: the good part of you. She knows it's in there

946
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: for you and maybe this whole situation will prepare you

947
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: for the next person, so she acknowledges it as well.

948
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: But since you brought up Nick Vile, what what do

949
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: you because that's whose season I was on.

950
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: What what do you think about past contestants or past

951
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: leads offering their opinion opinion in such a way, because

952
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: you obviously feel strongly about things that he has said.

953
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: And I think you know, obviously Rachel and I have

954
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: this podcast and we are giving our opinion, so we're

955
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: our opinion as alumni too. I think the difference is

956
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: there's a way to be respectful about it.

957
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, totally, and you guys do that perfectly in my opinion.

958
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: I mean, everyone's entitled their opinion, and with social media,

959
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 7: people are very quick to jump on what's the most

960
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 7: popular thing happening and how they can either use it

961
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 7: to benefit themselves, get retweets, to get retweets.

962
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 5: To get likes.

963
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 7: And I understand that I've been as of recently, the

964
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 7: talk of the town, so I see why people are

965
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: doing doing that. But it's like, get to know me

966
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 7: before you talk shit. And if you come with my family, like,

967
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 7: don't do that.

968
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: Did he do that?

969
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 7: I've seen him say some some slurs and stuff on

970
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 7: Twitter and it's just, you know, it's like have some respect.

971
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: So you feel like he's doing it to try to

972
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: stay relevant.

973
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely, are you kidding me? That's what he thrives off.

974
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean I'm with you. I uh,

975
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean, not with the knick thing. But I think

976
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: people are not just social or not just past Bachelor

977
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: contestants in general, people have this screen up when they're

978
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: on the Internet and feel like they can.

979
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: Say whatever they want.

980
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm so happy that you're here, Jed,

981
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: is because not only have all the guys said great

982
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: things about you, Hannah has said great things about you,

983
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: despite how hurt she is. I'm you know, we're sitting

984
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: here talking to you. We can see that you're a

985
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: good person. Of course you're a good person. You just

986
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: really fucked up.

987
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 4: You did. I mean, can you say that right now

988
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: that I messed up big time?

989
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 7: I can see all my faults and like I said,

990
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 7: I'm going to grow from it and it is going

991
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 7: to make me a better person. It just it's crazy

992
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 7: when it's in the public eye that you have to

993
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 7: go through something.

994
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: Like this and.

995
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 7: Be open to everyone's opinions and judgment. But you know, absolutely,

996
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 7: I can see all my faults.

997
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jed, I think that you learn the hardest lesson

998
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: on the biggest stage and it'll be something that you

999
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: grow from at the end of the day. Like we

1000
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: talk about Hannah's strength and everything that she went through,

1001
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: and she did go through a lot, but at the

1002
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: same time, you have to be really strong on your end, and.

1003
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: She gave that to you.

1004
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1005
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: When she talked about Grace on the stage, she said,

1006
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: I know that you have a lot of critics. I

1007
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: have them too, but I know people are coming down

1008
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: on you, and I'll even be honest. When when she

1009
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: was on straight hand and Sarah, she said, I don't

1010
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: want to say anything about him because so many people

1011
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: are already coming at him.

1012
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: So it takes a lot of.

1013
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: Strength for you to be able to come sit with

1014
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: us have these tough conversations. But we thank you for it,

1015
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: and we thank you for being, you know, strong enough

1016
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 3: to tell your side of the story. I do want

1017
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: to ask you, though, what's next for you? I think

1018
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: a lot of people want to know what do you

1019
00:48:51,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: want to do now? Paradise just kidding.

1020
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 7: You know, Really, I just want to take the next

1021
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 7: bit and just focus on my spiritual and mental health.

1022
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 5: That's it.

1023
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 7: I mean, the weight of all this has been insane,

1024
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 7: and you know, I just want to surround myself with

1025
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 7: good people and really just work on my soul.

1026
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: And I'm glad you brought up mental health. Yeah.

1027
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: I think people out there, anyone listening to this right

1028
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: now who maybe still feels angry with you, is that

1029
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: we need to think about people's mental health in this

1030
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: because I cannot imagine how you are feeling and how

1031
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: you've been feeling and having millions of people just judging

1032
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: you and saying terrible things about you. That is so hurtful.

1033
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: And we really need to think about mental health and

1034
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: what that can do to a person, because I know

1035
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: you're a strong guy, but that can break anybody.

1036
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I like to think that I am very

1037
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 7: you know, mentally strong, like in a lot of situations,

1038
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 7: and this has been extremely heavy, and you know, I

1039
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 7: want to talk for a second about like other people

1040
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 7: going through this. You know, I know that the Blake guy,

1041
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 7: he's fucked up and done some shit, and you know,

1042
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 7: I just think people need to, like, even though they

1043
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 7: don't agree with it or think it's terrible, just have

1044
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 7: a little grace because at the end of the day,

1045
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 7: like we're humans. I mean, same for Luke. I don't

1046
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 7: agree with him, not that, not the slightest bit do

1047
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 7: I agree with him, But we're humans where we have

1048
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 7: this this thing where it's easy to get caught up

1049
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 7: in what people are saying. And sure you can say

1050
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 7: that you're not going to look at it or that

1051
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 7: you ignore it, but that only goes for so long,

1052
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 7: and people need to realize how much words actually can

1053
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 7: affect someone's mental health and respect.

1054
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: That do you feel for Luke in this situation.

1055
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 7: Now that I've gone through the hate that I've gone through,

1056
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 7: you know, like even before I did, like I I

1057
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 7: it was just constant memes, constant shots, and you know,

1058
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 7: I've even taken some shots at him obviously, Like I

1059
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 7: didn't agree with the guy at all. But now that

1060
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 7: I have this perspective, I think people just need to

1061
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 7: have a little grace for everyone.

1062
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you cannot like somebody that's totally okay.

1063
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: Like, and you can say I don't understand why this

1064
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: person is here, but saying like they should jump off

1065
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: a bridge on social media is not okay.

1066
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 5: It's not okay.

1067
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a bit too far.

1068
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 7: So like that, you know that being said, Hannah has been,

1069
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 7: you know, being drilled the entire time, the entire season.

1070
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, Luke got it.

1071
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 7: Bad, I got it bad later. But she's had this

1072
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 7: judgment the entire time. Yeah, And I don't think there's

1073
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 7: anyone in this world that could have handled it the

1074
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 7: way she did. She was strong, she held true to herself,

1075
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 7: and you can't ask for more than that from someone.

1076
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: And I will say I have not agreed with a

1077
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: lot of the things Hannah has done throughout the season.

1078
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: I write a blog and on it, I have been

1079
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: extremely critical of some of the things that she has

1080
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: done throughout the season, but always in a respectful way,

1081
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: always in a way of I am behind her. I

1082
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: don't agree with the way she did this, but I

1083
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: know she's growing from this, And I think that's the difference.

1084
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: You don't have to like everybody, you don't have to

1085
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: agree with that.

1086
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: I do like Hannah, but You don't have to agree

1087
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: with what everybody's doing, but you just have to be

1088
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: realize they're real human beings like Rachel and I have

1089
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: been there. I mean, obviously not to the extent that

1090
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: you have experienced it, but honestly, I was a little

1091
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: hesitant to do this podcast. And the reason I was

1092
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: is because I was a bachelor I almost.

1093
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: Ten years ago.

1094
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: But I remember sitting at my computer and seeing the

1095
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: terrible things people were saying about me and crying my

1096
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: eyes out because yes, I'm strong, I've been strong my

1097
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: whole life, but oh my gosh, one person.

1098
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: Can only take so much.

1099
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to do this podcast at first

1100
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: because I thought, oh my gosh, I'm putting myself back

1101
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: out there to be judged again by Bachelor Nation, which

1102
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: Bacheloration is incredible, but there's a handful of weeds among

1103
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: the flowers.

1104
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: That really a lot of weeds to dig.

1105
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Speaker 4: Would you say, Rachel, there's a lot of weeds? Is

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Speaker 4: that what you said?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of weeds.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, Rachel, how do you like? How is

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Speaker 4: what do you care about?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 3: I am a very strong person, but at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I absolutely have my moments where sometimes this becomes too

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Speaker 3: much and it gets to me. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: important to talk about because a lot of times people

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Speaker 3: do just see me as strong, but this being in

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Speaker 3: this world has affected me at the same time. And

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Speaker 3: you know, like Ali said, we've both as leads have

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Speaker 3: definitely been subject to a lot of criticism. And for

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Speaker 3: me being the first black bachelorette, I was being criticized

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Speaker 3: for things that I can't change.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm black. I can't change that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was born that way, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of the criticism that came to me it was because

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Speaker 3: of the way that I looked, or stereotype for because

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Speaker 3: of the way I look that people place on black people.

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Speaker 3: So it was I knew I would get it, but

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Speaker 3: as much as you prepare yourself for it, you never

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Speaker 3: are ready for it. And at the same time, it's

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Speaker 3: like when people are praising you one second, you're also

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00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: going to have.

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Speaker 1: The flipping of people criticizing you.

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Speaker 3: And it's a hard balance to have and the strongest

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00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: person is affected by it. So I think it's really important.

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Speaker 3: You know that we're having this conversation now and we're

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Speaker 3: sharing our experiences at how tough. It is. I'm tough

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00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: on people too. I'm tough, Jed. I think you handled

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Speaker 3: this interview quite well.

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Speaker 4: I was nervous for you, Jed, because of Rachel.

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 3: I'm very I'm very direct, and I get that sometimes

1141
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: I fall victim of, you know, going after people without

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00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: understanding it or realizing, Hey, Rachel, you know what it's

1143
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 3: like to be in that person's shoes and have people

1144
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: criticizing you for things they don't know or they don't

1145
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: know the whole story. So I think that it's important

1146
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: for hello, I'm talking to you, to realize that these

1147
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 3: people are We're human, and we mess up and we

1148
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: make mistakes, and we're making them on the biggest stage.

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: So at times, give us a break.

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00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean I.

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: Do see sometimes I will say, I mean I haven't

1152
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: read any of Nick's tweets, but people do kind of

1153
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: jump on the bandwagon of like whatever Bachelor Nation's feeling

1154
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: and to you know, just kind of follow along with that.

1155
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't do that, Like if I'm going to tweet

1156
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: or put something on Instagram, I feel like I'll do

1157
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: it as Again, I don't agree with this, but I

1158
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: massage it a little bit. I realize that the person

1159
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm talking about is me just like me, you know,

1160
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: like because I've been there, so it's it's hard for

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Speaker 2: me sometimes when past contestants are so ruthless because they've

1162
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: been there totally and they know how.

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Speaker 5: Much it hurts totally.

1164
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 7: And like I've taken shots at Luke on Twitter and

1165
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 7: it's like it's just like an easy thing to do,

1166
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 7: but it's not right.

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's not always right.

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: I definitely say some very blunt things, but I think.

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00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: As long as you're funny, it softens enough.

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00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm like again, I always go back to I'm

1172
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Speaker 2: the mom of this podcast, Like I'm just like, oh,

1173
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: I always think of that person my son or my daughter,

1174
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 4: But none of us are perfect. I'm sure at some

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00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: point for sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely past seasons, I've said some things that were mean,

1178
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Speaker 2: you know, if I had an opinion, and.

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Speaker 4: I think you just learned, like you said, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the whole.

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Speaker 2: Point of this, I mean, I think your story, Jed

1182
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: is that nobody is perfect and we all mess up,

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: all of us. Just you know, we have millions of

1184
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: people to let us know when.

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00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 4: We did it. Absolutely, and your mistake you exactly.

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 7: Everyone can change, everyone can grow, and you got to

1187
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Speaker 7: just focus on that.

1188
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: Well. I hope people listening to this know that your

1189
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: mistakes do not define you. And I can say that

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00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: sitting with you right now, I can tell and feel

1191
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: the good energy from you, and I see what Hannah

1192
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: saw on you stup. But you're human and you've admitted it.

1193
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: That's what else can you do. And I can say confidently,

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00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: I think that whoever you do end up with is

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Speaker 2: going to be a very lucky girl, because I think

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00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: you're going to be pretty dang and honest with that person.

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Speaker 4: You're going to be like it is I just like

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Speaker 4: I looked at another girl and I saw her cleavage.

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Speaker 4: I had to tell you because I don't want you

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Speaker 4: to think I'm lying, like you're going to be really honest.

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Speaker 2: Jed.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here.

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00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's not easy to do what you're doing right now,

1204
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: and we really appreciate you telling your story here.

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Speaker 4: First.

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00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: Absolutely, thank you all for having me.

1207
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's been heavy on my heart to

1208
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 7: be able to kind of open up about everything, and

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 7: I appreciate you all giving me the opportunity to do that.

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Speaker 1: Here absolutely, Thank you Jed.

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Speaker 3: We definitely wish you the very best in the future,

1212
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: and we'll see you at the dock.

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Speaker 4: I love meditation too, so I love that you do that.

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Speaker 2: And I will say to all of you guys listening,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for tuning into this very special

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Speaker 2: edition of a Bachelor Happy Hour. And actually we're gonna

1217
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: be back with our regular podcast next week and we

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Speaker 2: have Demi and Caylen from Bachelor in Paradise on the show.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Demi about her groundbit breaking Paradise journey,

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Speaker 2: which is very cool, and how her family reacted to

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Speaker 2: her telling the world that she had been dating a

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Speaker 2: woman prior to coming to Paradise.

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Speaker 1: And also, you.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Caylen will be here, and from the looks of it,

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Speaker 3: she got all caught up in the Blake drama that

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00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: is all the talk in Paradise, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about that with her.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna we're gonna have grace for Blake, but

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Speaker 2: we're also gonna call him a jerk and you'll find

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Speaker 2: out why.

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Speaker 4: So in the meantime.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, guys, you can get all the latest

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Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation news on Bachelornation dot com right now and

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00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: follow us on social media because actually, Jed, before we

1235
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Speaker 2: came into this interview, I like pulled my followers and

1236
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: asked them what questions we should ask you. So some

1237
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: of those questions came from my followers.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you brought that up, Alli, because we

1239
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: want to hear from you guys, and we want you

1240
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: to tell us what we like and what you don't

1241
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: like about the show. So tell us more of that.

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00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: We want to hear it.

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: You can email us at happy Hour at bachelornation dot com,

1244
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: or you can visit us at bachelornation dot com and

1245
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: click podcasts.

1246
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely do that. Send us all the emails we want.

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: We want all of them.

1248
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: So thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: This was really really great, Jed, thank you again, and

1250
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: don't forget to subscribe to our podcast, Bachelor Happy Hour.

1251
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're

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Speaker 2: listening to this right now