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Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to the

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Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. My guest this week are Allison and

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Speaker 1: Jay DeMarcus. So you've probably heard Jay's name from being

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Speaker 1: one third of the group Rascal Flats and Alison can

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Speaker 1: regularly be seen as a host on CMT and has

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Speaker 1: spent many years as the reigning Miss Tennessee. The couple

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Speaker 1: now also has a new reality show on Netflix called

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Family Rules. And let me tell you, guys, even

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Speaker 1: after knowing this family for many years, I was laughing

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Speaker 1: out loud watching this season. So we obviously talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about the show and filming a reality show with

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Speaker 1: your family, But we also talked about how they met

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Speaker 1: story I didn't quite expect. The couple shares how therapy

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Speaker 1: has probably saved their marriage, why they won't be having

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Speaker 1: brings to families. Here's our conversation. Okay, so obviously I

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Speaker 1: It's so funny they're just talking about that. So I

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Speaker 1: want to get into that later, but these are so

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Speaker 1: fun for me because I feel like I'd have known

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Speaker 1: you guys for years, and so I started doing on

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Speaker 1: this research and I found all these random facts that

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Speaker 1: to research you guys. Um, thank you kidding. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about a couple of those because obviously, so Jay,

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Speaker 1: everyone knows you as the basis of Rascal Flats, but

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Speaker 1: before you had Rascal Flats, you were into contemporary Christian bands.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about making that transition.

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Speaker 1: Was it really hard to jump from the Christian world

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Speaker 1: I did. I did, you know what it was? I

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Speaker 1: just a natural evolution. Once I went to a Christian

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Speaker 1: And I've wound up now and with you know, in

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Speaker 1: come on over to the dark side of the dark side. Welcome. Um. Wait,

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Speaker 1: so Gary, it is your second cousin. I had no idea,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he is. So that's how Rascal Flats kind of started, right,

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Speaker 1: the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital. In two thousand and ten, when

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Speaker 1: So you guys have a full surgery center there. We

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Speaker 1: do take that. Yeah, yeah, he didn't have that. Well,

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Speaker 1: This sounds horrible, but I didn't really like I want

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, well, this is my chance.

428
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: She broke up with him. She she digs me, now

429
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: we can start hanging out, and then she lays this

430
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: on me. I need you to leave me alone. I've

431
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: got to figure my life out. I mean, you've got

432
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: to have some space killing. Yeah, like run back down

433
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: the alley. Even though Jake felt like it was love

434
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: at first sight, Well, the end of that story is

435
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: at lasted four days some time. You said those four

436
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: days and you really found yourself. Yes, really went on

437
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: a self awareness journey there nobody knew on site. Was

438
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: actually opened back into right just for me. So I

439
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: hear that though, that you when it's right, it's just easy, yes,

440
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna work and you can't really fight

441
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: it off, which it sounds like, oh, that's what happened

442
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: in this scenario. Yeah, And you know dating sucks and

443
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: it's you know, marriage is hard. Yeah, it's not just

444
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: because it's right doesn't mean it's easy. But we found

445
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: a way to make it work. And we've gotten pregnant

446
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: both times we've had sex, and it's been Wow. It's

447
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: just been awesome, lucky every days, a holiday every day,

448
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: just like those those girls who always post on Instagram,

449
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, it just gets better with every year. You're like,

450
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: look how many times if you'll actually filed for divorce

451
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: but they didn't go through, right, Like, I mean, I

452
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: just wish people will be were honest about it because

453
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: it is hard. Any relationships hard they take. Yeah, whether

454
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: it's with your parents, you're sibling, your spouse, your kids.

455
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: I mean, relationships are hard, yeah, because they're there was

456
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: married to each other, as we all are with our spouses.

457
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: So absolutely, but all of the relationships are hard. So

458
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: I always think it's crazy when people act like at

459
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Sunshine and Roses, you know, honest about it, because anything's hard.

460
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: If it's worth it, it's gonna be hard. Yeah, And

461
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of the things I really like

462
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: about this show. For you guys, this is a good

463
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: transition into DeMarcus Family Rules because the show starts with

464
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: you guys doing a therapy session, which first of all,

465
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: I could not figure out at first, Like Jay was

466
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: talking in that voice, It's like, what is he doing?

467
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: What's happening? But he was the therapist is having you

468
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: guys role play each other, so can you. So I'm

469
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: very a big advocate for therapy. I think everyone should

470
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: do it. It's just like it's not like it doesn't

471
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: mean you're so messed up that you have to go

472
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: get help. It just means like we all need to

473
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: learn how to communicate better, how to be better in

474
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: our relationships. Like it's just so helpful. So has it

475
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: been very helpful for you guys in your relationship or

476
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: communication wise? Like, talk me through a little bit of that. Um.

477
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: We started seeing a marriage coach about our second year

478
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: into marriage, not because not because we had these huge problems,

479
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: but we quickly realize that left to our own devices,

480
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: we weren't great communicators to each other. Allison is, um, well,

481
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: she doesn't talk. So I'm I am real in touch

482
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: with my emotions and I love. I love to communicate.

483
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I love to know what somebody's feeling thinking. Lay it

484
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: all on me so I can sort through it and

485
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: do what you need me to do and let me

486
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: fix whatever I'm doing wrong, and getting information from her

487
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: is like trying to get gold out of fortnox. Wait,

488
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: is this for real? This is y'all dynamic? This is

489
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: really for real. That's the opposite of what most people say. Yes,

490
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. We've been told by our counselor several

491
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: times that I'm the typical female and choose the dude. Okay,

492
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: and that's not emasculating at all. Sure, however, you know

493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: she wants to blame it on the fact that I'm

494
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: an artist and I'm in touch with my emotions and

495
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: where my heart or must leave, and I just chalk

496
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: it up to being a human being with actual feelings

497
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: and thoughts. Kay is an exceptual communicator because he sits

498
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: down and writes songs about his feelings and emotions, whether

499
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: they're his originally or organically, or the other songwriter in

500
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: the rooms or not. I mean, it's one of those

501
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: things where he's used to verbalizing his feelings and has not.

502
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: And I I am the typical mail where it's like

503
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, yeah, and I'm lay I'm in it,

504
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: but like I just I don't have to sit around

505
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: to talk about it, and that drives Jay crazy. But

506
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: if we will both overly emoting, we would never get

507
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: out of the house. We hold each other crime every

508
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: night before. So it works because you gotta have somebody.

509
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: I have to have the balance, right, Yeah, I mean

510
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. Well, I think the

511
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: key word there's balance. Somebody has to give a little

512
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: bit on the under side. So what the marriage Coach

513
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: has done for us has helped us, you know, force

514
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: us to talk and to communicate and to be in

515
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: a room and give us a skill set that helps

516
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: us when we're dealing with something that it's difficult. You know,

517
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. It has done wonders for us because I'm

518
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: not sure, this is honest, I'm not sure we would

519
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: have made it if we didn't have a little bit

520
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: of help along the way, because I don't know how

521
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: to resolve conflict and still love each other, especially when

522
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: you're coming from two totally different perspectives. You're never actually

523
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna agree on some things, and so you've got to

524
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: figure out how to agree to disagree and love your

525
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: way through it too without bitterness and being able to

526
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: let go of the past. That's something that we both

527
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: had to work on was we can't still fight about

528
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: stuff that happened five years ago, okay, like and then

529
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: like we can't keep bringing that up every time there's

530
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: another conflict, Like, let's heal those wounds, but so we

531
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: can move on. We also had to cure Allison of

532
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: um apologizing like this, Well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

533
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: I saw this in the show I died. That's that's

534
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: that's that's real life communication, Like the coach will go Allison,

535
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: can you apologize today? Yes? I am sorry that he's

536
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: an asshole. You use your eye statement, so I was

537
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: using them. I mean it's a little bit of a

538
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: twist on that, but I was. I was like working

539
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: my own path. That's what I feel like, you're stupid.

540
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm well, I appreciate you guys being open about it,

541
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: just because I think it is just exactly like what

542
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: y'all are saying. We're two totally different people can be

543
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: in a relationship, and we all just see things from

544
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: our own perspective. So if you don't have a third

545
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: party that's not emotionally attached, kind of talking through what

546
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: that can look like from a different angle. I just

547
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: don't know how we get it. Like, I've had this

548
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: in other relationships too, and it's just been so helpful

549
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: to have someone else kind of interject with, well, this

550
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: is actually what they mean, because it's just not so

551
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: emotionally fueled. That's exactly right. And you know what's amazing

552
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: about that to me because people can talk to me

553
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: now about their marriages and I can analyze it so

554
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: quickly and easily now and know exactly what they mean

555
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: when they say this on both sides of the coin,

556
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: but have no ability to do it in my own relationship. God,

557
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: why is that? I feel that too. I'm serious. I

558
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: can go, well, here's what you're saying, and here's what

559
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: you say this, and then I go back and sit

560
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: with the chair in front of our coach and I go,

561
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't know a thing about what I'm doing. Yes,

562
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: it's just so different when you're in it. Yeah it is,

563
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: and it's good you do. You just have to have

564
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: that outside perspective because everybody has their moments where you

565
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: put a wall up about something for some reason, and

566
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: you've got to have somebody that's not the other person

567
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: say okay, like you've gotta you gotta move past this,

568
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: you've got We've got to work through this. How are

569
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: we going to work through this? Right? Take the egos

570
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: out and just work on it together for her, just

571
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: for me, because where I love to be right about this,

572
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure. So what does it look like

573
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: now that you guys are filming a reality TV show together?

574
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: How's that going? You know? Um, it's it was really fun,

575
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: to be honest. I had some reservations about it obviously, well,

576
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: just putting our kids down there and exposing them to

577
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: any kind of you know, people are idiots and they're

578
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: so brave behind keyboards nowadays, and it was a lot

579
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: for us to think about before we made the decision

580
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to finally do it. But I did discover that having

581
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: something to do with my family and I've I've lived

582
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: most of my adult life on the road with Gary

583
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: and Joahing, So being a creative environment with my family

584
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: and my wife and my kids was so much fun

585
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: to do something different, if that makes sense. Yeah, it

586
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: kind of liberating and um and we had a great time.

587
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: And I love the memories that we made because now

588
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: they will live forever on Netflix even if we don't

589
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: get a second season, right, I'll still be able to

590
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: go back and watch my kids and remember the fun

591
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: that we had filming that show together. Alison, how's it

592
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: been for you? Was it a big adjustment or were

593
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: you kind of just ready for it or your ad

594
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: about it? Um. I was more excited long before it started,

595
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: like when we were talking about it, and then when

596
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: it came down to it, I got really nervous. And

597
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just like that maternal instinct that kicks

598
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: in with your kids and um but I knew they

599
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: were funny and I knew that they would enjoy the

600
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: process because they've been on Christy Knows Bill several times

601
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: and they had tons of fun. And I mean, our

602
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: son is Jay's child. We have that as a question.

603
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Do people tell you that all the time he's a

604
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: wonderful kid? Well, he's hilarious. I mean they both are.

605
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Actually they're both very funny. But when I'm watching Dylan,

606
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a small version of Jay. It's crazy.

607
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to parent him. So um So that

608
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: part of me was really really nervous, and I had

609
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: the additional um load of my mom who was nervous

610
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: and my sister who was trepidacious, and they are not

611
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: typically did on camera ever in their lives. They done

612
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: great things with their lives, it hasn't necessarily been in

613
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: front of other people. So that dynamic was there, and

614
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: our other friends and so that was a lot to

615
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: kind of maneuver on the outset. That was really fun

616
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: because we were all able to be together, and pre

617
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: COVID we were all running in a million different directions

618
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: and so you just get short moments of that, whereas

619
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: we were able to actually be together and it was

620
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: really fun and little do we know then a few

621
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: months later we would always be together. It didn't get

622
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: away from each other. I think everybody who was single

623
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: and a friend of mine was longing for other people

624
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: during quarantine and the spring especially, and then everybody who

625
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: was married was like, get me out here. It's a

626
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: totally interesting dynamic to be stuck in a house with everyone.

627
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: It totally is. But I was telling you guys before,

628
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: I feel like your family is made for reality TV,

629
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: which actually did really mean as a compliment, but it's

630
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: you'll have this timing with each other, it is it

631
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: Is it like that all the time, or y'all are

632
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: just feeding off of each other with the one liners.

633
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: But it's like the Jay and I feel like we

634
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: the good and the bad about us is that we

635
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: diffuse conflict with humor, both of us, and so that's

636
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: just how we talk, I mean, our kids. That's how

637
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: we roll. That's how you roll. Um, you know, it's

638
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I've always tried to find the

639
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: humor and everything, and it's a little annoying sometimes, I'm

640
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: sure to people around. You know, a lot of people

641
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: just know me from playing based on stage, but I'm

642
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: actually a funny motherfucker. So I'm glad for people to

643
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: be able to finally see what I've known, for people

644
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: to get to really experience you, I feel, his whole

645
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: life anyway. Yeah, the kids are even I mean, they're

646
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: so funny in their little interviews. I just die laughing

647
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: because they have the same kind of comedic timing as

648
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: y'all do. And how old are they? Ten and seven

649
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: or something? Madden? That was her birthday, so she turned nine.

650
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: She's nine, okay, and then Dylan was seven. He just

651
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: now turned eight. Oh my gosh. So what's funny is

652
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I've read all these comments on Facebook and Instagram balled

653
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: it's obviously scripted. They're telling the kids what to say,

654
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you don't have a clue. Yeah, you

655
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: can't tell kids what to say, let alone expect them

656
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: to have any kind of sense of timing unless it's

657
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: naturally there. So that's what I always try to explain

658
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: to people about reality TV. It's like, you set up

659
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: this scenario like, oh, we're going to go to dinner

660
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: with so and so, but everything that's said is actually

661
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: really happening, Like that's the timing of all that. I

662
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: think that's why I appreciate watching you guys so much,

663
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: because I was laughing out loud multiple times and I

664
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: was like, wow, Like, how could I just play off

665
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: each other like this? It's actually a lot harder than

666
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: people would think it is. I think that that's the

667
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: key to is that we've been trying to tell everybody

668
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: now we really aren't doing anything scripted. Of course, we

669
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: talk about what we're going to do in the scene,

670
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: otherwise it would not be compelling television. So we're trying

671
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: to make something interesting. But you've got to be funny

672
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: and you've got to keep the scene moving along, and

673
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: it's horrid work to do. Yeah, it's definitely different than

674
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: what I think people think. Also, though you have you

675
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: guys have all these characters in your life, like you

676
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: have Amy, your sister Alison, your mom, Chris Um and

677
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: then also Amy is married to James Otto, which that

678
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: was something I didn't know. And then Mickey and paid, like,

679
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: there are these people are they actually just doing themselves

680
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: because they're all hilarious. Nicky is the only person I

681
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: know that it can string Jay's name out into seven syllables.

682
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: We met him fifteen years ago. We were at a

683
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: dinner party and we were just sitting there around the

684
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: table and like the first an appetizer came, then a

685
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: salad came, and then by the time the entree came,

686
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Jay like threw his fork down. He goes, I need

687
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: to go meet whoever is cooking this food right now.

688
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: So we like grabbed our drinks, win in the kitchen,

689
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: met Nicky and did not leave the kitchen the rest

690
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: of the time. We just hung out with him and

691
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: started laughing because he's hilarious and he's from Clarksville originally,

692
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and um, he is hysterical and like he's really a

693
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: part of our family. I mean, he's he cooks meals

694
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: for us, you know, just randomly all the time, and

695
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: then like our all of our major things like Christmas,

696
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: and helps me with Thankgiving and all of our kids parties,

697
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and you know, he's just really he's truly a part

698
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: of our lives. Yeah, he was very entertaining to be

699
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: page as well. A little firecracker. She is a total firecracker.

700
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: And she is clearly from West Tennessee, close to where

701
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm from. And so she and I work on pabots together.

702
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: And I became friends with Chris through pageants, but you know,

703
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: just like with her, I mean, my relationship extends much

704
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: further than those few events. Even though we work on

705
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: those things together, they're truly friends and we don't just

706
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: always talk about that. So um, So he is truly

707
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: a part of my family. I mean, my mom feels

708
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: like she's his second mother, and so he's got a

709
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: great relationship with my mom and a good relationship with

710
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: my sister and me. So he's a good like bridge

711
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: between all of us too, which is I mean, those

712
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: are truly their roles in our lives. You know, today,

713
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Alison's family being around so much?

714
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: Next question, you know, I've gotten used to it. It's

715
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: h Luckily I don't mind being around him. Yeah, I

716
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: was very dear friends with her father, Robert. We were

717
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: really really good pals, Like we played a lot of

718
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: golf together and hung out, and I had a lot

719
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: of things in common, so I really enjoyed being around

720
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: her folks. And her sister Amy is precious And James

721
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Otto and I have been friends for years, best friends

722
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: before you got with Alison. I met him uh and

723
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: an industry event before we ended up together. But you know,

724
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: it's since we both do the same thing. It's kind

725
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: of nice to um to have that in the family,

726
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: to have somebody to relate to. But they're they're sweet,

727
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: sweet people, so it doesn't bother me now. If I

728
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: if there are people I didn't like to be around,

729
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: would be a whole nother situate. But Kelly, I mean,

730
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: like most girls from the South, like you marry somebody

731
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: who will fit into your family family, Like I could

732
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: have never married someone who then took me out of

733
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: my family and displaced me and we had our own

734
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: life and didn't interable with my family all the time.

735
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: That was just it's just a huge part of it.

736
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: That was a part of the deal, and you know,

737
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: that just kind of was a thing. And Jay naturally

738
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: fit in with my family and they my mom will

739
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: take up for Jay when we're upset about something and

740
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: each other. My mom will take this side, and it's

741
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: really actually upsetting because and so that's really upsetting. And

742
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: my sister even if she thinks something wrong, she'll she'll

743
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: at least like put up the facade that she supports

744
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: me mom. But my mom was just like totally throw

745
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: in the town, be like, yeah, he is so crucious.

746
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Do not don't get I'm like, well, I and your

747
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: daughter you about to take up for me? Well it

748
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: is a little hard though, because they know you so well.

749
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's like all the people that know you

750
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: so well and have lived with you your entire life,

751
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: so of course they all know every in and out

752
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: of how you operate good. So it's um so, I

753
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: guess to answer the question totally that jay'son just he

754
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen, you know, I mean,

755
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: you knew the drill before we married. And fully he's

756
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: okay with it, even though I mean, everybody has their

757
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: moment where you want to run screaming from extended family.

758
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: That's why last that long wasn't a good idea. You

759
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: wait till season two, We're going to delve into my

760
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: family in Ohio. Cannot wait. Well, I love that you

761
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: guys address um the road life, because I do feel like,

762
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of behind the scenes too, So

763
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I see this dynamic so much, and I don't think

764
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: that if you fully understand that life, Um, I think

765
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: it gets glamorized a lot and people focus on the

766
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: really fun parts of it, and obviously that's a huge

767
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: part of it. But you openly talk about the dynamic

768
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: of like Alice and You're at home kind of running

769
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: the show, and then Jay comes back in you say

770
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: he expects a welcome wagon, and Jay, you also talk

771
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: about it from your perspective of like you almost feel

772
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: like you have to get to know your family again.

773
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about that dynamic. How have

774
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: you guys found some balance in that? Well, we haven't

775
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: okay answer truth, Okay, Like it is hard. I mean

776
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: it's for a couple that one person or both people travel,

777
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: you've got to figure each other out when you get back.

778
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, it looks so glamorous on Instagram because you know,

779
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Jay's on stage with the lights and the you know,

780
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: fan blowing, and then all of a sudden, you made

781
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: me sounds like Selene I was gonna say, you are

782
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: You're almost hard. You're almost the same, basically exactly what

783
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking. But he's got you know, they're only

784
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: showing the like fabulous moments when they're really sitting in

785
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: a parking lot until eight pm in a like random venue,

786
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: still watching the golf channel. You know, you know, I don't.

787
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: I think when Alison said I expect a welcome wagon,

788
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: that's a little overshading. I just expect people to be

789
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: home maybe when the road instead of out running errands

790
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and random things. Um, that has been a little bit

791
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of an issue. And Jay does not come home to

792
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: an empty house. Well, Kelly's after you've been out, you know,

793
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: busting your tail and working hard for your family and

794
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: away from them the hundreds of miles away, and you

795
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: come home it's like I'm home. Hello there, Hello, anybody

796
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: around here? Never mind, I'll just go down here and

797
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: be with myself. Have been like I've been on the

798
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: bus for the past four games. Yeah, but that's hard

799
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: because Jason grown up. I mean he's been on the

800
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: road since he was what seventeen years old, and around

801
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: people constantly. There's always somebody around. There's always somebody willing

802
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: to like hang out, watch a football game with you, go,

803
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, have a drink with you, whatever it is.

804
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: But I mean that's not real life. I mean we're busy,

805
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: and so it's really hard because he goes from like

806
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: that really social environment. So I think that's hard to

807
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden come into the the stone cold

808
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: house that's like empty because we're at three soccer games.

809
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: Or you'd want to hope that your wife was waiting

810
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: for you to come back home because she had missed

811
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: you so much. We could also view it like that

812
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: as well of view, or we could be it as

813
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: what a wonderful involved mother she is who wants to

814
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: be with her children, who support them during their extracurriculaus. Right.

815
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: But I was just gonna say, this sounds like a

816
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: topic for therapy guys, But don't We have just sected

817
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: this one fifteen years. So I don't think there's a resolution,

818
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: but we we've worked through it at least where there's

819
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: a good way to come to it. Are make you

820
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: so much, I'm not coming back until Well. I do

821
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys getting honest about that though, because I

822
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: just think that it's easy to look, especially at a

823
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: very successful music career, and it's just all the smoke

824
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: and glitter and all the stuff we were talking about,

825
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: and you don't really see the ins and outs of

826
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: what it takes to make a family work in that dynamic.

827
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: So it's been it's really cool ugly pictures for Instagram

828
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: they're taking with the extra effects and everything else, so

829
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: it's always glamorized. Well, have you guys resolved the issue

830
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: of having another child? Okay, so that that one was out,

831
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: she shut that down immediately. Yeah. Um, but I mean

832
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm old, Kelly, I know what my limits are. Yeah.

833
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: And and plus Kelly, we'd have to get naked, won't

834
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, she didn't seen that into it two times.

835
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's tough for a marriage. I mean. And

836
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: also I've just been sitting around eating during quarantine, so

837
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: all yeah, I would think like, oh gosh, i'll be home,

838
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: so all I'll do is like be really healthy meal

839
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: proub and like work out, and actually did none of that. Yeah,

840
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: So getting pregnant's not the top of your list. It's

841
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: really not. Well. You mentioned some fertility struggles with that too,

842
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: which I've also had my about with that. So was

843
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: that a really big part of your decision making process?

844
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Was just like the struggle of what that the toll

845
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: it takes on your body. I guess people don't really

846
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: know that either. Yeah, if they haven't gone through it,

847
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: then they don't understand the extreme highs and lows. Yeah,

848
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure have experienced and the difficulty and the disappointment.

849
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: And you know what happened with us. As soon as

850
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Allison got to her breaking point, she came and said,

851
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. I'm not gonna take these

852
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: fertility drugs. We're not going to go back to the

853
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: in vitro classes. And as soon as we quit all that,

854
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: she was pregnant a month later. I always wonder how

855
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: much distress play into what's happening in our bodies. With

856
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: all that, you feel like you're failing a test every time. Yeah,

857
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of pressure to put on you.

858
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: And it's also a lot of pressure to put on

859
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: a gas page in some cold room, to come out

860
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: with a sample some random woman across the right. That's

861
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: so difficult. We're so sorry for I'm just saying it's hard. Yeah,

862
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: it's definitely not the way that anybody imagines that going.

863
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: For sure. Let's definitely feel so bad for the guys.

864
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: We're getting jacked up and jacked down, and then you know,

865
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: they all make you gain weight. So then you're like, oh,

866
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: I can't fit in any of my flood right, and

867
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: you feel terrible, and you do. You feel like, why

868
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: is it's not happening? Are we not supposed to have kids? Yeah,

869
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, you go through all those emotions. It's really hard,

870
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: and it is didn't everywhere you look too. I don't

871
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: know how you felt, but I always felt like everybody

872
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: I ever met was getting pregnant. To get pregnant, I

873
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: was invited to more baby showers and I've ever been

874
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: invited to in my whole life during that time, and

875
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: you're genuinely the world for your friends, because nobody wants

876
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: your friend or your family member to go through the

877
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: hill you're going through. But at the same time, it's

878
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: like a good gree like how are people getting knocked

879
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: up behind the football stadium on a Friday? Right? And

880
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're like, want to bring a child into

881
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: a loving stable home, like what is happening? Or quasi stable?

882
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Who knows the definition? No, I thought those exact isations.

883
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean I still do because it's like, it seems

884
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: so something that seems so easy for other people when

885
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: you're having such a hard time with it, as happy

886
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: as you want to be for them. I think it's

887
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: just such a mixed emotions deal. Like it's it's really

888
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: difficult as a human being to not take your own

889
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: experiences into account when you're just like supporting your friends.

890
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it's really difficult. It is even though you

891
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: are genuinely happy, more than it's hard because you are.

892
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: You're right, you're we're all human and of course we're

893
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: disappointed about our situation if you're having for somebody else. Yeah, well,

894
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: I appreciated you guys just getting honest about a lot

895
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: of those hard topics and also making it entertaining in

896
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: the meantime. So you guys can check out the show.

897
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: It's called DeMarcus Family Rules. It's out on Netflix now.

898
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 1: The last question, I mean, this might be the most

899
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: important question that I've asked today, But Alison, what is

900
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: in a spray tan. Oh, I'm the drink up. Years

901
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: ago it's diet sun kissed in vodka, and somebody asked

902
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: me what the recipe was. I was like, well, it

903
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: depends on if you've got to be up at six

904
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: thirty the next morning or nine thirty you poured that

905
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: much vodka had sunkiss to it and then calling it

906
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: a day. And um, my friend Jason Owen years ago,

907
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: he started calling it a spray tan because it's orange,

908
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: of course, and so we always laughed. Now I do

909
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: carry diet sun kiss cans in my handbag when we

910
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant, if I go to friends houses.

911
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: I was very glassy. I just I could not tell.

912
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the color is a bright orange and you

913
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: drink it out of a wine glass. It looks like

914
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean just that one time. I mean, I don't

915
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: drink it out of anything. It could be a shot

916
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: glass crossing with the k right here, Um sun kiss, Okay,

917
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look into this cocktail. Um jay,

918
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: what is your drink of choice? Oh? I thank you

919
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: seen me drink my drink of choice? So okay, yes,

920
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: no fruit, no fruit, keep it clean, you know. I

921
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: so wish we were at the hotel right now out

922
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: there at the bar and we can all sit together

923
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: and have a drink. That I mean, I think it's

924
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: so for anted that. Yeah, I mean, just the simple things,

925
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, going to work in another city sounds so

926
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: amazing right now, I can't wait. Yeah, we were in

927
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: the middle of it. It was like, oh my gosh,

928
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: I have to pack my suitcase. Yeah, I'm and drudge

929
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: back to the airport. It seems like the worst thing

930
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: because I was so tired all the time, missing my

931
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: people back home. And now I'm like, take me, let's go.

932
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: I feel so silly now because I remember sitting down

933
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: there going I was gonna be over there. Yes, this

934
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: is one percent giving me a lot of perspective. Makes

935
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: you really grateful, Yeah, it does. I mean even when

936
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: I dropped my kids off at school and like, thank

937
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: you Jesus. I mean, this may not last forever. They

938
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: may send them all home, but they're going to day

939
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: yes exactly, because I'm not ready to drop kick them.

940
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if we had to homeschool anymore, I've been.

941
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: I was homes going with my boyfriend's kids. Last is that,

942
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: I guess you call it semester. I don't know that

943
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: we would have survived as humans. Like it was not

944
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: good for anybody. It's not And the kids seem to

945
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: be around people. I mean, obviously I think people need

946
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: to be safe, but I mean they need that outlet.

947
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: They needed the circulization because I already worry about their

948
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: that generation being so dependent upon technology and their devices.

949
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: So when that's the only way that they can communicate

950
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: with friends is through FaceTime and texting, it's like, I mean,

951
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: this is not good to Y wants to know if

952
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: I feel that way about myself and worry about myself, No,

953
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm not because I was like no sending out s

954
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: O S messages and FaceTime, drinking with my friends, finding

955
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: ways to interact. I mean I literally heard a friend

956
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: of mine say she's doing a virtual happy hour like

957
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: in March this year, and I was like, kind of

958
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: so stupid. Literally the next week, I'm like, who wants

959
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: to do a virtually me? I'm ready for Hey, whatever,

960
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: it's to survive. We were doing it almost every day

961
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: there for a minute, so were we. I mean I

962
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: would like have friends who were like literally crouched in

963
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: the closet with a glass of wine face timing with everybody.

964
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: The only the only thing that scared me, Kelly was

965
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: I started drinking earlier and early. We did too. Happy

966
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Hour kept getting earlier and earlier. I was like, oh wait,

967
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: it's lunchtime. Wait, this is bad. And then I started

968
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: drinking it and I was like, oh, bloody Mary mix

969
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: Like it's okay, but you can't curl us over the

970
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: soda for like three or four. Oh god, it's so true.

971
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Transitioning back into real life for that reason was a

972
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: little bit tricky there for a while. But we're still

973
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: a little touch and go. You need to get back

974
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: out of the road. We're in the wrong. Yeah, amen

975
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: to that. Um, so we have the show. What else

976
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: can we look out for from you guys in the

977
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: next couple of months or just the next year? Uh yeah,

978
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: oh let's see here. Well, what is the Rascal Flats

979
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: I'm coming up? We don't have much of anything coming up.

980
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: We got nominal to the Day for Vocal Group of Year,

981
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: which was nice. That's awesome for them as Yeah, it's

982
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: been thirty seven years since we've been nominated, so it

983
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: was great. So wow, that how many years? I don't

984
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: think that's right. I'm totally good. Uh, and so you work.

985
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: We're working on some things right now in the studio.

986
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna we're gonna put out later on this

987
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: year that I'm excited about. But as far as touring goes,

988
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of up in the air. No one in

989
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: the world that's gonna look like. So hopefully we'll be

990
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: shooting season two of DeMarcus Family Rules here in a

991
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: few months. That would be exciting. Alison, what are you

992
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: working on? I am working on keeping my children in school. Amen,

993
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: working on Miss Volunteer America, the first national pageant that

994
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: will be September first through fourth, and it's afect. We'll

995
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: go away. Yes, you got a year. I feel good

996
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: about your chances. Okay, thank you. I mean I do

997
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: some days and then other days I'm like, you catch

998
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, everybody's positive today, everybody's um anyway. So

999
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're just trying to make it and we

1000
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: have no social life, and it's really kind of sad.

1001
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: I know, I'm ready for that to come back to

1002
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: me too. I think we all definitely either took it

1003
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: for granted and now it's like, oh, I would love

1004
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: to go to an event or to a dinner with people,

1005
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: whereas before I'd be like, oh, I'll go anywhere I

1006
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: have on reasons to put on Scara exactly exactly well.

1007
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: De Marcus Family Rules, as we said, is out now

1008
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: on Netflix, Alison and Today. Thank you guys so much

1009
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: for doing this. It was so fun to talk to

1010
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: you and I'm so happy to learn all these fun

1011
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 1: facts about you. Guys. It was really very insightful for me.

1012
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Good talking right. Thank you guys,

1013
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening.