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Speaker 1: Week eighteen. Week eighteen, final week of the regular season

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Speaker 1: for the NFL. We're down to the final four in

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff MONSI. By the way, it was

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago where I was struggling with my voice.

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Speaker 1: I had I just had that little flam that was

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Speaker 1: sitting there and I was sitting here with you, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you can see me turn my

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Speaker 1: head and you just picked up for me. I know

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Speaker 1: you took a day off because you've been working non

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Speaker 1: stop for your voice. So if there is a similar situation,

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Speaker 1: believe me, I have you covered.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I'm not even kind of worried about it.

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Speaker 3: If I have a moment where I need to just

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Speaker 3: it where it's like you're talking, and maybe you get

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Speaker 3: of a sudden you have to cough, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, where did this come from?

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Speaker 4: I haven't coughed all day, all day, all day, haven't

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Speaker 2: Yesterday with Dan Bayer, I was fine all day. Died

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Speaker 4: Dan was like, I didn't know if I should check

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Speaker 4: on you or keep talking about college playoff football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I was like, keep talking, keep don't worry about me.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, people who don't quite understand, like you, say, well,

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Speaker 1: what's the difference when you're when you're doing a broadcast,

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Speaker 1: I would come out strong a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: It's over. There's nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, So right now we have this game between

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Speaker 1: the Browns and the Ravens. Very simple. Ravens need a

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Speaker 1: win to clinch the AFC North, and they were twenty

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorites today, which is the largest

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Speaker 1: And right now going against a Browns team with Zappia quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it's only fourteen to three. Yeah, so they're not blowing

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, who may be trying to make that final

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Speaker 1: statement as far as MVP is concerned. Ten of twenty one,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards on a score, he's run

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird. That's weird.

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Speaker 1: So they're playing their stars. Today's eight four Flowers is

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Speaker 1: in Mark Andrews, all their Pro bowlers are in this game.

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Speaker 1: But right now Cleveland hanging tough. It is at halftime

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not ideal, right, having to have Week

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Speaker 4: not a lot of teams, but yes, the Ravens trying

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Speaker 2: Not ideal that Zey Flowers may have.

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Speaker 4: Injured his knee in the game, Like just not not

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Speaker 4: an ideal situation. But again, they're playing for something other

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider.

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Speaker 1: He's very connected to the Eagles organization, so I want

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Speaker 1: to hold off on the whole Saquon Barkley situation until

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff because not only on this show

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because it's not one thing that went wrong. It's

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Speaker 4: So it's like Oregon was set up in a tough position,

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Speaker 4: They still came out flat. All teams came out flat.

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Speaker 4: We need twenty five days. That's that's a month off.

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Speaker 4: Now when the others are playing and playing meaningful games

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Speaker 4: next week. Yeah, I know, all the bye teams lost,

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Speaker 1: It should be either eight or sixteen where everybody plays

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Speaker 2: You're right, they're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: But you can't have bye weeks like that where there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because if we wanted competitive football, we barely got it.

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Speaker 1: Oh we barely got Arizona State gave us a little.

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Speaker 1: But Ohio State was able to after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: It was like, we are not ending like this.

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Speaker 1: And remember this, it's Chip Kelly as their offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Right, But like, as you said, they should have been

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Speaker 1: Right, And my point is, hold on a second, the air,

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Speaker 1: get creative. You've seen how Arizona State has used this

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Speaker 2: He's versatile.

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Speaker 4: So yes, I was very impressed because I didn't watch

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Speaker 1: Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. Well, Adam, I'm going to

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Speaker 7: Cowboys, sure, I mean see with the Cowboys Okay, just

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Speaker 7: so you know the way it works, BONSI coaches in

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Speaker 7: Dallas have very little control over what happens.

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Speaker 6: They have no control over the personnel at all. They don't.

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Speaker 7: It goes through Jerry Jones and Will McLay. The personnel

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Speaker 7: director is really terrific. Jerry's the GM and owner. He

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Speaker 7: controls personnel. You kind of laugh.

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Speaker 6: The coaches I've talked to have worked there for decades

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Speaker 6: just laugh at what Jerry says publicly.

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Speaker 7: Now, Jerry will take shots sometimes as his coaches, you

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Speaker 7: live with it. He pays them pretty well. His contract

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Speaker 7: ends on January fourteenth. And let me just tell you,

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Speaker 7: because we'll be talking about this next week, because it's

449
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Speaker 7: not like you're not.

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Speaker 6: Going to see all the openings filled in one week.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't happen that way, I could tell you that

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Speaker 7: this is not a great list. From talking to clubs

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Speaker 7: of coaching candidates, it's mostly from the defensive side of football.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of where it is now. Liam Collen is

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Speaker 7: a name to watch, the offensive coordinator for the Bucks

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Speaker 7: who's done a phenomenal job. You got to give this

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Speaker 7: guy credit. He's another quarterback whisper. You saw Dave Canalis

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Speaker 7: do the same thing with Baker Mayfield now the head

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Speaker 7: coach of the Panther finishing off second year. So I

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Speaker 7: think you got to keep take a look at that.

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Speaker 7: But you know, MANSI, that Bears job is fascinating. It's

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Speaker 7: you got a quarterback. I'm fascinating to see what Ben

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Speaker 7: Johnson does and and are these teams willing to wait

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Speaker 7: for him? Because look, they're right now, they're clearly the

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Speaker 7: best team in the NFC. I know they have the

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Speaker 7: same record as the Vikings. I fully expect him to

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Speaker 7: win tomorrow night. I know they have a number of injuries,

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Speaker 7: but this still could be their year and they're going

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Speaker 7: to get some of this not all. They're going to

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Speaker 7: three or four players will not return for the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: but the rest of them will in defense.

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Speaker 1: That was gonna be my final question about the game

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. So you don't see the Lions possibly losing

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Speaker 1: that game at all? I mean, the Vikings look at it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there's they'll become the loser of this

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Speaker 1: game becomes the first fourteen win team ever to be

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Speaker 1: a wild card team. And Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 7: Most improved player on offense, and I have to vote

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Speaker 7: in ten days for the profol Perosi.

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Speaker 1: Well, and his coach has got to be coach of

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Speaker 1: the year. He is. You know, anybody have the Akan's

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Speaker 1: winning fourteen games?

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Speaker 7: No, I had them winning seven. So the odds makers

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Speaker 7: at six and a half. I like the over at seven.

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Speaker 7: My prediction was seven. But I'm going to give you

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Speaker 7: one for coach of the year. And yes, O'Connell's got

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Speaker 7: to be number one. Sean Payton's got to be if

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Speaker 7: they if they win, if they're in nobody by the way,

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Speaker 7: the oddsmakers had them at five and a half wins,

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Speaker 7: just so you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you can actually tell people. I actually know

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Speaker 1: somebody that picked the Broncos before the season.

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Speaker 6: You're the Honestly, I'm trying to figure out.

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Speaker 1: It's documented by the way in this building.

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Speaker 6: So do you have a nine hundred number?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 6: Are my nine hundred number?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my one prediction right out of about one hundred.

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Speaker 1: So yes, every dog has credit.

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Speaker 6: Man, Hey, well, I owe you am. I gonna see

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Speaker 6: you in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna figure this out. Things are a

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Speaker 1: little scary in New Orleans these days. I know I've

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Speaker 1: been to New Orleans. A lot of time for Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying no, but we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, as always, we appreciate and of

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Speaker 1: course next week we will talking wild card playoffs. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: get any better than that. Thanks, Adam, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider. That's right,

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Speaker 1: playoff football next week.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's twenty twenty five, Steve, it is twenty twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: By the way, a quarter of this century has already

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Speaker 1: come and gone.

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Speaker 9: That's great.

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Speaker 1: One quarter of this century is coming on. That's a

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Speaker 1: perfect way to segue into finding out what's trending right now. Man,

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Speaker 1: that has been there every step of the way in

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Speaker 1: this twenty first century.

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Speaker 10: That is true, Mark undefeated on living.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you have different milestones. You know, mar

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Speaker 1: and you've had milestones. He was actually co hosting a

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Speaker 1: show and anchoring updates at the same time. Monci, didn't

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Speaker 1: you do that once?

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Speaker 2: I've done that before? Yeah, right here with you, Yes

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Speaker 2: he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Stevens met a many times. I know

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Speaker 1: you are, I know you're there. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, my worst nightmare for the college

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Speaker 1: football Playoff would be an Ohio State Notre Dame matchup.

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Speaker 1: I hate both those schools. I mean like, but Ohio

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Speaker 1: State is not far behind. And if that is, I

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Speaker 1: mean some people, they don't likely match up. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hard for me.

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Speaker 10: I'm actually rooting for Penn State at this point. I

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Speaker 10: want Penn State to win because it would be a

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Speaker 10: situation where they're good enough to where nobody can say

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Speaker 10: they didn't deserve to be here. But nobody will be

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Speaker 10: satisfied with the Penn State national champion. And that's what

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Speaker 10: you jerks deserve. Controversial exactly, twelve team playoff, that's what

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Speaker 10: you all deserve. After all this, complain that everybody's happened.

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Speaker 10: I hope that nobody leaves home happy.

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Speaker 1: That's my take.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: It has been a very forgettable playoff so far, it

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Speaker 1: really has. Thank god it's twelve teams. God, we really

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Speaker 1: needed it, We really needed it.

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Speaker 10: Baltimore Ravens really needed to win here, not so much,

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Speaker 10: but twenty one to three right now the score. Bailey

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Speaker 10: Zappi was listed as the starter for the Yeah, he's

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Speaker 10: still playing, Okay, six for fourteen, sixty three yards through

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Speaker 10: the year and the interception for the fourth quarterback for

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Speaker 10: Cleveland to start this season. He's also the fortieth since

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Speaker 10: nineteen ninety nine, so a lot of not too much

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Speaker 10: job security there. Lamar Jackson thirteen for twenty four one

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Speaker 10: hundred and fifty nine through the year, two touchdowns, one

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Speaker 10: to Mark Andrews, got fifty four yards receiving. Also adds

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Speaker 10: sixty yards rushing does Lamar Jackson. Tampa Bay Buccaneers plays

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Speaker 10: Jordan Whitehead on the reserve non football injury list after

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Speaker 10: a car accident this morning. Find his way to the

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Speaker 10: facility the Tampa Bay Times. His Whitehead it is okay,

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Speaker 10: but not expected to return this year. Cincinnati Bengals wide

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Speaker 10: receiver t Higgins expected to play today against the Steelers,

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Speaker 10: that game kicking off in about an hour and a half.

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Speaker 10: Here to running back Chase Brown has worked out before

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Speaker 10: the game. I saw two from a local reporter said

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Speaker 10: he shook.

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Speaker 1: His head no and walked back off the field. So

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Speaker 1: not official, but not good. Yeah, that's the best way

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Speaker 1: to say not good.

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Speaker 9: Not good.

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Speaker 10: Tire Alexander Packer's cornerback on injured reserve, but they knee.

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Speaker 10: He should be able to return for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 10: but Packer's got to make it that far. First, Lions

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Speaker 10: activate linebacker Alexandeloni and hunt returner Khalif Raymond from injured reserve.

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Speaker 1: Angeloni broke his four on Week eleven.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna wear a carbon fiber cast on his arm

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Speaker 10: against the Vikings and Aaron Rodgers Jet quarterback draws a

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Speaker 10: eleven thousand, two hundred and fifty five dollars fine for

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Speaker 10: a late hit and Sundays.

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Speaker 2: Do you see that?

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Speaker 1: I see the official like laughing at him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when he announced it, he chuckled about it.

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Speaker 1: It's Aaron Rodgers. What a doings? A quarterback? You've been

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Speaker 1: in the league for thirty years and you want to

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Speaker 1: But hey, am I the only one to hear the

588
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Speaker 1: believes that this will be Aaron Rodgers' final NFL game?

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Speaker 1: I also agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody's banging on the door. Do

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Speaker 1: you sign Aaron Rodgers right now? Does it take away

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Speaker 1: from his Curtino? Obviously, We've seen a lot of legends

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Speaker 1: in their career with a whimper.

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Speaker 10: This's just weird because there should be like a little

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Speaker 10: level of coronation going on and there's not, and it might.

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Speaker 1: Be because he's part he's a yeah, well exactly. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much once again, Great Jim. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Oh a reminder again, this is Fox Football Saturday, Steve Harbin,

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Speaker 1: Monci Belangos. We are live from the tai iraq dot

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Speaker 1: com studios. He was mentioning about the futility at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position for the Cleveland Browns dating back to nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. This always gets to me because you say, well,

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Speaker 1: the Browns have a rich history. The original Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: became the Baltimore Race. Yah. The last coach of the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, the original was Bill Belichick. He got fired,

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Speaker 1: they moved to Baltimore. Ozzy Newsom took over as the

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Speaker 1: director of player personnel and in that first year nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six as the Ravens, they had two first round

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Speaker 1: picks Jonathan and ray Lewis, two first ballot Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers that were the anchors of a team that five

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Speaker 1: years into Baltimore would win a Super Bowl and of

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Speaker 1: course win another Super Bowl. There is no relationship between

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Speaker 1: the expansion Cleveland Browns that were born in nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: and the original Cleveland Browns except the name, well the name,

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Speaker 1: and they said, well, we're going to carry the stats.

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Speaker 1: I mean I understand that, right, Yes, that's no Again.

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Speaker 1: If I was one of the original Cleveland Browns, which

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Speaker 1: actually had a very proud history dating back to their

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Speaker 1: first venture into the NFL, I would be so embarrassed

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Speaker 1: to have any ties to the expansion Cleveland Browns. It

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Speaker 1: is just I mean, a year ago, this was a

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Speaker 1: playoff team. Remember Joe Flacco and he was comeback Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Stepanski was the Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was defensive. They were cleaning up the awards,

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Speaker 1: and they're about to wrap up a three and fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Season, right It's like they made you forget for a

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Speaker 4: hot second that they saw to Shaun Watson to that

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Speaker 4: ridiculous contract.

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Speaker 1: For a hot second, do you think that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are aware of the points spread? So the Ravens right

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Speaker 1: now lead the Browns twenty one to three. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: were twenty and a half point favorite, so they're still

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Speaker 1: a little bit short. And by the way, after a

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Speaker 1: slow start, Derek Henry all of a sudden now sixty

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Speaker 1: three yards and eleven carries, Lamar Jackson thirteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty nine yards and a couple of scores.

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Speaker 1: So it seems like the Ravens are picking up steam

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Speaker 1: and the Browns, well, their season ended a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but their starters are still in which is it's

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Speaker 4: a choice because again, you don't want to risk injury.

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Speaker 1: You don't and they're not going to get a bye.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting tomorrow. So here's how it plays out in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. So, obviously, Ravens win this game. They clinched

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Speaker 1: the NFC North. The next thing we have to keep

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Speaker 1: in mind is the game later on today between the

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Steelers. Big game for both these teams. So

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Speaker 1: the Steelers need to win to hold on to the

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Speaker 1: five seed, because you would rather play on the road

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Speaker 1: against Houston the four seed, than drop to the sixth

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Speaker 1: seed where your Chargers are right now and have to

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Speaker 1: go to Baltimore, right right, there's a big difference between

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Speaker 1: at Houston and at Baltimore in the first round of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. You don't say so as a Charger fan,

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Speaker 1: I know you are rooting hard for the Bengals to

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Speaker 1: beat the Steelers in this game. Now, for the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: they are still a long shot to get into the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Denver again is a ten and a half point favorite

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Speaker 1: at home against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: They cannot They're gonna They're not playing anybody. They're not

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Speaker 4: playing anyone, so Carson Wentz, Yes, but they're not. They're

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Speaker 4: sitting most of their starters. So there's no reason Denver

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Speaker 4: cannot win this game.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple of Actually, the line's gone

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Speaker 1: up to eleven. So when is the last time a

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Speaker 1: team that was fifteen to one was an eleven point

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Speaker 1: underdog in a game? When's the last time the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: were eleven point underdogs.

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Speaker 2: Probably not in the six is years, they're gonna say.

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Speaker 1: But if somehow the Broncos blow it, the next in

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Speaker 1: line is the Dolphins, So the Dolphins would be the

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Speaker 1: next in line. Of course, the Dolphins are on the

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Speaker 1: road against the Jets. If they both lose, the Broncos

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Speaker 1: and Dolphins both lose and the Bengals win, then the

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Speaker 1: Bengals are in. And this gets back to the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: because the one player the Chiefs do not want to

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Speaker 1: see in the postseason is Jill Burrow. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: do not want to see Joe Burrow, which is why

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Speaker 1: they're going to lay over and play dead for Denver

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Speaker 1: and just take him completely out of the mix.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, a lot of things have to happen do have

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Speaker 4: to happen for Cincinnati to get in.

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Speaker 2: But because their game.

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Speaker 4: Is so early, they do have to play like they

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Speaker 4: need to win since they're playing today.

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Speaker 1: No, the skin out makers get how to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they Yeah, so they're gonna definitely try, but a

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Speaker 4: lot of things have to happen for them to get in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, a lot de bends on this Steeler

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Speaker 1: game coming up against the Bengals exactly. And then yeah,

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Speaker 1: the fact is they have Broncos, Chiefs, Dolphins, Jets playing

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Speaker 1: at the same time, so they actually do their homework here,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, because you don't want like a game to

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Speaker 1: decide the fate of another team that goes on earlier, right,

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Speaker 1: and so that's the way that's going to play out.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about your Chargers now? The Chargers

698
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Speaker 1: are another team that has nothing to play for in

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Speaker 1: their last game. If the Steelers win today, now, if

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Speaker 1: the Steelers lose, then the Chargers have the window open

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Speaker 1: to move up to the five seed. Does that make

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Speaker 1: you nervous though about not getting any rest? If you

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Speaker 1: have a game that you need to win in order

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Speaker 1: to avoid the Ravens and play a broken down Texas

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Speaker 1: team in the first round, just how much are you

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Speaker 1: going to put into that game the week before the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: A team like the Chargers that's so green and fresh,

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Speaker 4: right playing together, I actually want them to keep playing.

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Speaker 4: I want them to have a need to play right

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Speaker 4: to get to keep the momentum going. Because the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: we've talked about it, they can take three weeks off,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter for them. I think for a team

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Speaker 4: like the Chargers, I want them to have to continue

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Speaker 4: playing for a reason so that momentum keeps going. As

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, I don't expect them to get to the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl, but I expect them to put up a

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Speaker 4: challenge against anyone, even if they have to go to Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: I expect them to put up a challenge.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what the Chargers do in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about the Chargers. They haven't had a lot

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Speaker 1: of playoff games in recent years now, but they have

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Speaker 1: played well in their first playoff games, usually on the road,

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Speaker 1: and of course they should have beaten Jacksonville a couple

725
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: years ago, the greatest collapse in Charger playoff history. But

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00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: they had road playoff games. Remember the first playoff game

727
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Speaker 1: the Lamar jackson had was a home game against the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers won that game. Rich Ornberger, our dear friend,

729
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Speaker 1: took over for the injured Nick Hardwick. In the twenty

730
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Speaker 1: thirteen season Chargers snugging is a wild card, went on

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Speaker 1: the road against the Bengals and won that game. Rich

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Speaker 1: insists that he got every game ball for that game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about that. I wouldn't dismiss the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: You have a coach in Jim Harbor that understands how

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Speaker 1: to get ready, not just for college games. Remember he

736
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Speaker 1: had four years of the forty nine Ers, three which

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Speaker 1: were you know, playoff years. All runs to the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game in those three years, including one year all

739
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Speaker 1: the way to the Super Bowl, and you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're playing with house money, even if you're playing the Ravens. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right, and that's who would be on the sideline

742
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Speaker 1: in that match. His brother, Oh, Yeah, and a little payback,

743
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Speaker 1: you know from back in the day for that Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know you're getting choked up just thinking about it. Well,

745
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Speaker 1: hang on because on the other side, this is a

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Speaker 1: repeat of where I was a couple of weeks ago.

747
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Speaker 1: On the other side, we'll have more on these NFL

748
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: games and also some of these matchups in the college

749
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: football playoff semi finals. This is Fox Football Saturday. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Steve Harban, Monzie Blanos

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00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: Here Fox a Football Saturday. Still twenty one to three

752
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: Ravens still have yet to cover the spread against the

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00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: lowly Browns four and a half minutes ago in the

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: third quarter, and then later on Steelers Bengals. Huge game

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Speaker 1: for both those teams. Once again, we're coming alive from

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Speaker 1: the Tirak dot com studios. All right, we have a

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Speaker 1: short segment before top of the hour, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do a little detour at the request Amonsi Belanos to

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Speaker 1: the NBA where Jimmy Butler the six time All Start.

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: Always been a Jimmy Butler fan, love his game. But

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Speaker 1: when you're budding heads against pat Riley in that organizam,

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Speaker 1: you you are not going to win, and when you

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Speaker 1: openly talk about wanting to get out, it was predictable

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Speaker 1: that he would get suspended by the power hungry I

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Speaker 1: am in total control of this organization, pat Riley.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's no prize that pat Riley is handling

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Speaker 4: this the way he is. He's not a nostalgic, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: he's not that type of guy. I just I love Jimmy, right,

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Speaker 4: so maybe my need.

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Speaker 2: To want to defend him.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like a lot of people are like, bro,

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Speaker 4: you're making so much money, screw your joyer or just

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Speaker 4: like people. I get that it's hard for us to

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Speaker 4: put ourselves in a position of an athlete who makes

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Speaker 4: that much money.

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Speaker 2: But Jimmy Butler, who's never been an MVP, who was

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Speaker 2: never expected.

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Speaker 4: To literally carry your eight seed team to the finals,

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Speaker 4: he did it twice. I feel like there's a little

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Speaker 4: bit of like he's like, yo, like I.

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Speaker 2: What else do I need to do for you to

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Speaker 2: give me an extension?

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Speaker 1: But we've seen this before. We saw this with Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: we saw this with James hard and Damian Lillard in

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Speaker 1: Portant No.

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Speaker 4: But Damian no, no no, Damien is chasing a championship,

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Speaker 4: which is nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Jimmy is chasing a championship.

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Speaker 4: I think he's just kind of like budding ends and

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Speaker 4: he wants out.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's changing.

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Speaker 1: He's looking at the situation. Again, this is a Miami

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Speaker 1: team that was in the finals a couple of years exactly.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like they've been dormant for a while.

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Speaker 1: They were in the finals in twenty twenty. They were

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Speaker 1: in the finals a couple of years ago, which is

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Speaker 1: really how Jimmy Butler has made his name by leading

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Speaker 1: his team deep into the playoffs. No, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: he's looking around and thinking, what have we done to

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Speaker 1: get better?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and there are several rumors that he's asked for

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Speaker 4: certain pieces.

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Speaker 2: For things to happen, and that they haven't did they

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Speaker 2: have it? So he's like frustrated. It's like you being

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Speaker 2: frustrated at work.

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Speaker 4: You just get you get to the point where it's like,

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Speaker 4: I'm as much as I love the job.

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Speaker 2: I've been there.

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Speaker 4: I worked at Universal Studios and I loved it to

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Speaker 4: the point where I did it and I hated it

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Speaker 4: and I want it out.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't you want if you're a fan of the

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Speaker 1: Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler is the face your franchise.

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to speak out?

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 1: You know what what happened. Man, we beat the Celtics

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to get to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Look where they are, Look where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: I want my star. Jimmy Butler is the star, the

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Speaker 1: face of that Heat franchise. I know pat Riley always

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Speaker 1: thinks he's the face of the franchise, but he's you know,

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Speaker 1: the player is the guy that plays. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with him voicing his frustration exactly. But again,

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Speaker 1: now you put yourself in a really precarious situation because

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Speaker 1: once you advertise that someone like this is on the block,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get the equal and return.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean they're suspending him to you these seven games, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: seven games for contact detrimental to the team. Clearly pat

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Speaker 4: Riley is making his point. No, they're fighting in front

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Speaker 4: of us. They're literally having an argument in front of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Look, pat Riley's had an amazing career in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I actually remember him way back when he was the

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Speaker 1: coach of the Lakers. He's a piece of work, and

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Speaker 1: when the Heat handed him the franchise, essentially handed him

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Speaker 1: the franchise. And look, they've won championships. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: argue his Hall of Fame status. But he is not

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Speaker 1: someone I would butt heads way at all, And I.

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Speaker 2: Think Jimmy is someone you don't butt heads with.

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Speaker 1: Right like then then you have an impass. But the

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Speaker 1: problem the Heat is you don't want to get rid

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Speaker 1: of Jimmy Butler and not get the equal and return exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I know pat Riley doesn't want to start over

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Speaker 1: again with that. All right, coming up on the other side,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to all the NFL games coming up this

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Speaker 1: weekend and the final four in the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: on right now, and that is the Ravens and Browns.

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Speaker 1: Ravens again with the win clinch the AFC North and

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Speaker 1: it is a good day so far, but not as

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Speaker 1: dominant as a lot of people thought. The Browns defense

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Speaker 1: has come to play. In fact, Lamar Jackson is just

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Speaker 1: thirteen of twenty nine passing for one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: nine yards. He has thrown for a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry has seventy one yards on the ground and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens again, we're twenty and a half point favorites,

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Speaker 1: so they have not covered their spread yet. As we

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Speaker 1: get to the end of the season here, there's always

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Speaker 1: that talk about the awards. The awards will be voted

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Speaker 1: on this weekend. People have to be clear on this.

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Speaker 1: The awards are decided before the playoffs begin, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people always question this. In all sports, all

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Speaker 1: of four major team sports vote on the awards before

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think, yeah, there are regular season awards.

872
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean you have postseason awards. You could say, well,

873
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: what's more prestigious being an NBA MVP or being an

874
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: NBA Finals MVP. What's more valuable on your resume to

875
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: be a Most Valuable Player in the NFL or a

876
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. You know, this is something that we

877
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Speaker 1: argue with Eli Manning that he has won two Super

878
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP awards, never came close, never got a single

879
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: vote for an MVP award during the regular season. So

880
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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the separation of regular

881
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: season awards from those you can get if you have

882
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: a great postseason.

883
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem separating them either. But do

884
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: you feel that we are trending in a direction where

885
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: regular season matters less and less? I'm just using Saquon

886
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: Barkley as a current example because it's happening right now here.

887
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: He has an opportunity to break a record a number

888
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: that yet you need one hundred and.

889
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: You need one hundred one yards to break the.

890
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: Record, which he had several games over one hundred yards,

891
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: So it was something that he could do.

892
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: Right, He can't do it alone. You got to ask

893
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: everyone play totally understand.

894
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not blaming him for not doing it

895
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: because it does require other players for him to.

896
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Speaker 2: Actually be successful.

897
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: But we are I feel like right now we are

898
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: in sports putting emphasis on postseason more than regular season,

899
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Speaker 4: as we see in the NBA, like the regular season

900
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: of the NBA, matters less and less. Speaking of Kawhi

901
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: is supposed to come back to it anyway, it matters

902
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: less and less by.

903
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: The way that story changed in the last twenty four hours.

904
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: First of originally he was supposed to come back. Then

905
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he wasn't going to come back,

906
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: and they're like, he is coming back. Yeah, no, Well

907
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You mentioned Sakwon Barkley, and

908
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: we again talked to Adam Kaplan, who's very close to

909
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles organization. As I said to me, the problem

910
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: again and Adam agreed, was it's not an individual thing.

911
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: You've got to have everybody play. So that means your

912
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, and unfortunately for the Eagles, they have not

913
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Their bye week was week five.

914
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: Right, there's a lot of factors that when they.

915
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: Played twelve straight weeks, they're not going to get a

916
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: buye in the first round of the playoffs. And so

917
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: if you have a chance to rest your offensive line

918
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: in a meaningless game, because they're locked into the two

919
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: seed regardless of what happens tomorrow night between the Vikings

920
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and the Lions, why are you risking it. And by

921
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: the way, none of the Eagles offensive lineman if you notice,

922
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: We're like, oh man, we really wanted to get the

923
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: record for Saquon Barkley, who, by the way's first year

924
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Speaker 1: with the Eagles, not like he had deep ties with

925
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Speaker 1: the Eagle organization. But let me ask you this MVP vote.

926
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Speaker 1: So we've been talking about Josh Allen, we've been talking

927
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Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, and we've been talking about Saquon Barkley.

928
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Speaker 1: Had Saquon Barkley broken the record, would that put him

929
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: over the top in terms of winning Most Valuable Player?

930
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know because last year, you know, I

931
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: was a big Christian McCaffrey proponent that he should have

932
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Speaker 4: been the MVP.

933
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Life in a second, Yeah, But you know, so.

934
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Speaker 1: It's actually Dak was second. I believe Dak was it.

935
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: May Yeah, And so I hate that the award has

936
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 4: become this quarterback award over the last couple of years,

937
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: and with this year, it's like I do, out of

938
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Speaker 4: all the years, this would be the toughest one, even

939
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: though he breaks the record the way Josh Allen is playing,

940
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: the way Lamar Jackson is playing. But I think Martin

941
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 4: hit it on the head earlier this week, Martin and

942
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: I did a show on Tuesday, right before I lost

943
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: my voice, And in reality, it's like that list you

944
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 4: just mentioned is so small. Why is Sam Darnold not

945
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 4: included in this list? Why is Jared Goff not.

946
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Including this list?

947
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: It's become a popularity contest of the AFC.

948
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, let's you know. The argument about Lamar Jackson is

949
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: look at his numbers this year as compared to last

950
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: year when he was the league MVP. You know what

951
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: he didn't have last year, Dereck Henry, and I mean

952
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: Derek Henry has changed the entire dynamic. The Ravens, by

953
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: the way, this year become the first team in the

954
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: history of the NFL to have at least four thousand

955
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: yards passing as a team and three thousand yards. Well,

956
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: you don't have three thousand yards rushing unless you have

957
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry as over eighteen hundred yards. And so the

958
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: reason Lamar Jackson's numbers are so much better than they

959
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: were a year ago is largely because they added Derrick Henry,

960
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: who as.

961
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 4: A running offense I know and exactly like, there's no question,

962
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: there's no question about that. He is still playing, I

963
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: think better than he's ever played. He looks comfortable in

964
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 4: a different way. So but again that adds to Dereck

965
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: Henry's presence, making it a little easier for him. I

966
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: am with you, but you know the numbers, the numbers

967
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: are there, and he looks good. I just this year,

968
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: I actually think there's several candidates for the MVP versus

969
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: last year where I.

970
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Didn't think it was well. I mean, we haven't mentioned

971
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. I just did, ye, But you're right, Donald,

972
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: these are guys, as you say, I mean should be

973
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: when your teams are fourteen and two and you're putting

974
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: up the numbers that Goff and Donald have, you should

975
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: be in the conversation. By the way, the voting for

976
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: the NFL awards, which has been handled by the Associated

977
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Press for years, changed dramatically the last couple of years.

978
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. It used to be for

979
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: MVP you would just vote one name, okay. There was

980
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: a second place vote, no third place vote. It was

981
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: just names, and so there was a little bit skewed

982
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: with the All pro teams as well. I remember one

983
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: year Brett Favre was second team All NFL behind Tom Brady.

984
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: There were fifty votes, Brady got forty nine and a

985
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: half votes. Somebody gave a half of a vote to

986
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: farv what and he gets credit for second team All NFL.

987
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: And I was always like, well, that's that's not no.

988
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: Could you know you could do that?

989
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Well the times again, Yeah, Now for the MVP voting,

990
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: you actually have five slots to fill. So in other words,

991
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: there's a legitimacy to finishing second or third, fourth or

992
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: even fifth because it's a consensus in terms of the

993
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: top five, as opposed to we only have one vote. Really,

994
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: in my book, is never really a second place. I

995
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: mean it's like, you know, it could be so skewed

996
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: by it. I really when you think about Barkley's impact

997
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: on the Eagles, a team that completely collapsed at the

998
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: end of last year, to bounce back and have the

999
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: season they're having this year, what's the difference. It's Saquon Barkley.

1000
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has been ineffective or hurt much of the season.

1001
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: The difference has been Saquon Barkley. So and then as

1002
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: far as Josh Allen is concerned, he loses digs is

1003
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: number one receiver and he's had you know, I mean,

1004
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: so his numbers may not be overwhelming, although his QBR

1005
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: is on par with those top quarterbacks in the league.

1006
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: But where would the Bills be this year without Josh Allen?

1007
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: That's always the question. Most valuable player isn't necessarily the

1008
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: best player in the NFL. They have Offensive Player of

1009
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: the Year and Defensive Player of the year. Those are

1010
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: really stat categories. Again, take them off the team.

1011
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: Right and see what happens. I'm with you, I'm with

1012
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 2: you and with Sam.

1013
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: And I would make an argument that both Barkley and

1014
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in that respect had been more valuable than

1015
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson had the added pleasure of

1016
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: adding Derrek Henry to the roster.

1017
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I We've talked about it.

1018
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: I had the Bills not making the playoffs, so like obviously,

1019
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: I also gave it the edges to Josh Allen because

1020
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: I did not expect this type of year for the

1021
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: Bills and beating the Chiefs and the Lions can convincingly

1022
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: like I just I give the edge to Josh Allen.

1023
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm with you and yet with the Eagles because remember

1024
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 4: last year, the Eagles were also had a great record,

1025
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: but we were all uncomfortable with the We're like, they

1026
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: don't look like this team with this record. They don't

1027
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 4: look as good this year. The Eagles look like their record.

1028
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: They look like a good team.

1029
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: And it is Saquon.

1030
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Barkley and they're building momentum, and they're.

1031
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Building momentum, all of it, all of it. So I'm

1032
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: with you. I if Saquon bar the VA.

1033
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: So if I have those three guys and you had

1034
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: a ballot right now between Josh Al Lamar Jackson Saquon Barkley,

1035
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: what would you bout look like?

1036
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: I would definitely I think I put Josh Allen at

1037
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: number one and then two and three.

1038
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: I would make a rash decision.

1039
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: As I'm writing it down, I would make a rash discussion.

1040
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Just rap.

1041
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I could switch my mind, you know

1042
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. But I would have Josh. I think

1043
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: I won.

1044
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: By the way, the Browns are driving right now, they're

1045
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: inside the twenty yard line, there's twelve minutes to go

1046
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and the idea of an annihilation

1047
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: is not happening. The Browns defense has come back big

1048
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: in this game, So right now, they're in the red zone.

1049
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Try to cut into this twenty one to three Ravens lead.

1050
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: All right, coming up on the other side, will switch

1051
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: gears back to the college game. The final four is set,

1052
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: but how does the future of the college football playoff look?

1053
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: Will break it down with Aaron Torres. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Football Saturday, Steve Hartman, Montsti Bologos, Fox Football Sat. We're

1055
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: coming live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Hey,

1056
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Speaker 1: don't forget after the show. Our podcast is going up,

1057
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Speaker 1: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

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Speaker 1: to see this show, post it right after we get

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Speaker 1: off the air. Well, one reason you want to hear

1063
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Speaker 1: the podcast is the fact that this guy comes on

1064
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: with us now seemingly every Saturday to share his thoughts.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I say seemingly he has for how many

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Speaker 1: weeks in a row with this now be Bonts at

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Speaker 1: least five, five, six something along those lines. He has

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Speaker 1: his own show. Like It's not like he doesn't have

1069
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: anything else to do. He's got his hand in about

1070
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: one hundred different projects. The Great Aaron Torres is joining

1071
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: us once again. So Aaron, first of all, thank you

1072
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: for joining us once again on this Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Aaron, I just real quick, did you just throw a

1074
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 8: producer in under the bus? Like, like, do I not

1075
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Speaker 8: make the podcast?

1076
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 5: Cut?

1077
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 8: Is that what I just heard right there?

1078
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: No, you do make the I absolutely will be on

1079
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: the In fact, this may be that might be it

1080
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: for our podcast. I'm sure I have no control.

1081
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 8: Over that's a producer in call. I can't control that.

1082
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Speaker 1: Bye.

1083
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, way you made it sound you got to

1084
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 8: listen lines, because otherwise you're not gonna get any Torres.

1085
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Speaker 8: I was like, wow, well.

1086
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Speaker 1: No, you get us now, and then you get to

1087
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: repeat all the wisdom. By the way, I so rarely

1088
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: am right about anything that when it actually happens, I

1089
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: like to take a sweeping bow. I made the prediction

1090
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: that all four teams with a Bye would lose. I said,

1091
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: all four of them are gone because they had twenty

1092
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: five days off, and the teams they face had eleven

1093
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: days off coming up, big wins coming up, big wins

1094
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: at home building, some momentum. All the teams are flat.

1095
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: I give Arizona State credit from getting off the mat

1096
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: and rallying to make it a game, but they were flat.

1097
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Oregon was a disaster. All of them were flat predictably.

1098
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: So when you have a team that's had twenty five

1099
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: days off playing a team that's had eleven days off,

1100
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: it was predictable. And it's obvious that they're going to

1101
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: have to tinker with this format, Aaron, before we roll

1102
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 1: around for another playoff, because by and large, so far,

1103
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: the college football playoff has been a disaster.

1104
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 8: Wow, negative, Steve Hartman, I don't know what else to say,

1105
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 8: you know, Listen, I'll be honest, Eve, I mean, you're right,

1106
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 8: I personally think it's a little bit of an overrated narrative.

1107
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 8: Now you can obviously disagree. You're obviously a title to

1108
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 8: your opinion. Listen. All four of the teams that won

1109
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 8: were favored. I think the only one that could even

1110
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 8: pass as any sort of surprise would be the way

1111
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 8: that Oregon came out completely flat against Ohio State. And

1112
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 8: I think even that's a little bit misleading because I

1113
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 8: think in hindsight, we could sit there and say, well,

1114
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 8: they already played Ohio State literally had the ball in

1115
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 8: field goal range on the road at Austin Stadium and

1116
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 8: Jerebiah Smith was called for a questionable pass interference offensive

1117
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 8: past interference call. So like, you know, in hindsight, we

1118
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 8: probably all should have maybe seen Ohio State coming. And

1119
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 8: then obviously look Arizona State boys, you were both double

1120
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 8: digit underdogs and Georgia one by kickoff, was an underdog

1121
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 8: two starting a quarterback in his first career start. And listen,

1122
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 8: you know I do the show every Saturday night. We

1123
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 8: were on after seemingly a million Georgia games. Georgia was

1124
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 8: a fundamentally flawed team all year. They couldn't run the football. Listen.

1125
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 8: You know, you talk about stuff, You get a lot

1126
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 8: of stuff wrong, and you got this one right. Listen,

1127
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 8: I get a lot of stuff wrong, but I picked

1128
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 8: Notre Dame to win because I said they haven't been

1129
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 8: Georgia hasn't been able to run the ball all year.

1130
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 8: You have a Georgia team with a quarterback making his

1131
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 8: first career start against maybe the best secondary in college football,

1132
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 8: and one that now leads all of college football and

1133
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 8: turnover sports. So you know, listen, I think you needs

1134
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 8: some tinkering. We talked about it last week but I

1135
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 8: think the narrative that you know, getting the first round

1136
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 8: by is this like inherent. You know, Scarlet Letter were cursed,

1137
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 8: you know, Scarlet a around your neck. I just don't

1138
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 8: buy it. All four teams were face, all four teams

1139
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 8: that won were favorite to win.

1140
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 4: Aaron as somebody again maybe who didn't watch a lot

1141
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 4: of Arizona State games. I was game on, I know,

1142
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: so after watching the last one closely, I was like, scataboo,

1143
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: WHOA did your opinion feature of him?

1144
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 8: Hey, Manzi, Actually I got a little homework asignment for you.

1145
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 8: Now that I know that I made the podcast every week,

1146
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 8: you should go back to the week of the Big

1147
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 8: twelve championship game, because I casually am passing as Steve

1148
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 8: Hartman if cam Scattaby would be on his heisman, I

1149
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 8: remember that, yeah, and Steve Hartman just brushed me off

1150
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 8: like I was an autographed seeker.

1151
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: There's only three spots on the ballot. He finished fifth

1152
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: in the voting. By the way I saw the final vote.

1153
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why cam Ward, who finished fourth

1154
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: barely ahead of him, actually got the invite. He should

1155
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: have had an invite to New York at the very least.

1156
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, And Tamati's question, Listen, I'll be honest, like

1157
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 8: it was a great season, and I'm being kind of

1158
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 8: tongue in cheek. I think there was a late push

1159
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 8: for Skataboo, but I think largely the guys that were

1160
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 8: there deserve to be there. But Timasi's question, like, I

1161
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 8: did come away more impressed, because listen, I'll be honest,

1162
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 8: like I fell into the narrative of Okay, it's one

1163
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 8: thing to get those rushing yards against this team or

1164
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 8: that team, but Texas has a bunch of NFL dudes

1165
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 8: all over their defense, and I honestly felt like by

1166
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 8: the end of the game, guys that Scatabu had kind

1167
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 8: of worn down the Texas defense, not the other way around,

1168
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 8: you know. Usually. Yeah, So, you know, it was an

1169
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 8: awesome game. You know, obviously it came down to a

1170
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 8: couple questionable calls, but at the end of the day,

1171
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 8: Arizona State had one play to win the game. They

1172
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 8: had them down to fourth and thirteen in the first overtime.

1173
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 8: But to your question, Manti, I did come away more

1174
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 8: impressed by Cam Skataboo, And like I said, I really

1175
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 8: felt like by the end of the game like Texas

1176
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 8: wanted none of that smoke, and credit to them for

1177
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 8: holding on, but he was. He was some of that game,

1178
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 8: you really will, all right.

1179
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: Just a few weeks ago, everybody that is an Ohio

1180
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: State fan wanted Ryan Day out out after losing a Michigan.

1181
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: And again, by the way, Michigan actually looked pretty good

1182
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: in their bowl game against Alabama and was playing better

1183
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: football at the end of the season. But still, you

1184
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: can't lose to Michigan every year and hope to keep

1185
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: your job in Columbus. Now, all of a sudden, after

1186
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: back to back wins, Ohio State appears to be the

1187
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: team to beat now in the Scallet's football playoffs. So

1188
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: what's changed here, Aaron? I mean, obviously he gave a

1189
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: lot of credit to Chip Kelly and his offensive game

1190
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: plan against his former school Oregon, also a team that

1191
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: he was very familiar with coaching at UCLA, But what

1192
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: has turned this thing around for Ohio State.

1193
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 8: Guys? Honestly, you know, it's funny. You know, Jason Martin

1194
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 8: and I were on New Year's Night and we had

1195
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 8: on Josh Perry, who works for NBC Sports now who

1196
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 8: played at Ohio State, under urban Meyer and he said

1197
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 8: the same thing you just did see. He said, I

1198
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 8: don't know exactly what's change, but I think just as

1199
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 8: an outside observer, I think what's pretty obvious. And I'm

1200
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 8: not being sartastic, like I think they heard the noise

1201
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 8: after the Michigan game of you have all these elite

1202
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 8: wide receivers, by the way, if not just Jeremiah Smith.

1203
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 8: Jeremiah Smith is just so good that he stands out

1204
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 8: even on a field of great players. You know, Carnel

1205
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 8: Tate is a former five star, a Mecca Buka. It

1206
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 8: was actually the number one wide receiver his class. And

1207
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 8: I really think, listen, you know, I listen Ryan Day.

1208
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 8: We've all been critical of him. I know that I have,

1209
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 8: But I think he heard the noise after that Michigan

1210
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 8: game of you tried too hard to prove that you're

1211
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 8: something that you're not. Do what you do well?

1212
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: Right?

1213
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 8: Like? That isn't not what football, basketball, any sport is

1214
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 8: what do you do well? How do you expose the

1215
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 8: other team's weaknesses? And whether it was a weakness or not,

1216
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 8: their strength is clearly that wide receiver corps and Jeremiah Smith,

1217
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 8: let me ask you, Steven and I'm being serious. You're

1218
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 8: a historian of college football. Do you ever remember a

1219
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 8: true friend smid wide receiver six months removed from high

1220
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 8: school like Jeremiah Smith, Because there's not one that immediately

1221
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 8: comes to mind of six foot three, six foot four, big, strong,

1222
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 8: great hands, physical, and like I think the hyperbole of

1223
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 8: like he would maybe be the number one player on

1224
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 8: some team's boards this year if he was drafted. I

1225
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 8: don't think that's hyperbole, Like I think a quarterback would

1226
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 8: still go number one, but I think he would be

1227
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 8: the universal number one wide receiver and a top five

1228
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 8: pick if he was eligible for this year's drafting.

1229
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you say true freshman, you know

1230
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: that's that's sort of the cause the bag you we

1231
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: got me red shirt freshman. We've seen, you know, breakout years.

1232
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: I remember a guy named Randy Mossid Marshall as a

1233
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: red shirt freshman looking good back in the day. But no,

1234
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's the talent's always been there, right, I mean,

1235
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: in fact, all season long, even after Ohio State lost

1236
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: that game when their quarterback had a brain fart at

1237
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: the end of the game and slid to end the game.

1238
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people have also season long, we're saying

1239
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State had the most talent of any culture. Here's

1240
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: the thing about moving forward. The other thing I'm unders

1241
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: talking about with this playoff here is the fact that

1242
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, we see this with the nca Basketball Tournament.

1243
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen a projected number one

1244
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: seed lose in their conference tournament and still be the

1245
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: number one seed in a region. It happens all the time.

1246
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: And this is what I don't get under the understanding, Yes,

1247
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: if you are one of the five highest ranked conference champions,

1248
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: you get an automatic bid to be in the tournament,

1249
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: but not to be top four seeds. Boise should not

1250
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: have been facing to say you've got to see them

1251
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: based on strength, strength to schedule, and how you really

1252
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: rank about that's what they do with the nca Basketball Tournament.

1253
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 8: Well, listen, this is my honest thought on this, guys,

1254
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 8: is that I think we're figuring this postseason out in

1255
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 8: real time. And it's like if, like you think about

1256
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 8: every postseason has its flaws, And like I was thinking

1257
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 8: about this, I just saw somebody I forget who I

1258
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 8: think it was, I'm on Ross Saint Brown basically said

1259
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 8: it's ridiculous that a team goes fourteen to three in

1260
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 8: the regular season and doesn't get home field, a home game,

1261
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 8: or a first round by and so like every every

1262
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 8: postseason has some ridiculous quirks to it. But like, I

1263
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 8: just think we're so overly critical because this is our

1264
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 8: first ever twelve team college football playoffs. But I just wonder,

1265
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 8: like if we started all of these postseasons right now,

1266
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 8: Like I just feel like college football is the only

1267
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 8: one we complain about because it's all new, and we

1268
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 8: all have complaints where it's like, you know, if we

1269
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 8: just started the NFL playoffs right now, like when people

1270
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 8: kind of sit there and be like, wait a second, now,

1271
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 8: the NFC South, which is garbage. We all watch it

1272
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 8: every week, they get an automatic buy, they get an

1273
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 8: automatic bid and home field advantage in the game. You

1274
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 8: can finish fourteen and three and not get a home

1275
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 8: game in the first out of the playoffs. So I

1276
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 8: just bring it up because certainly this thing needs tweaking,

1277
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 8: and I think it's going to have tweaking, and I

1278
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 8: think the thing that you're harping on, Steve is probably

1279
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 8: going to be the number one tweak. And I think

1280
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 8: even by next year we could see the four auto

1281
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 8: you know, the four conference champions get eliminated in terms

1282
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 8: of four first round by four highest four highest ranked teams.

1283
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 8: But I do just think this is a byproduct of

1284
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 8: this is all new. We're all figuring it out in

1285
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 8: real time, I think really quick. Honestly. Is like I

1286
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 8: think that rule was put into place, like with the

1287
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 8: best of intentions of we didn't want three SEC teams

1288
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 8: getting a first round by, we didn't want three Big

1289
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 8: ten teams, whatever it would end up being. But I

1290
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 8: think in hindsight we realized that to your point, Steve,

1291
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 8: and I think it's a good one. We can reward

1292
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 8: a champion without giving them this huge benefit of this

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Speaker 8: huge benefit which would obviously be giving them not only

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Speaker 8: an automatic bid, but also as you said, that first

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Speaker 8: round by.

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Speaker 1: Now and as it turned out, the first round by

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Speaker 1: failed were all four schools, So you go, there's.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people around they played the first weekend,

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Speaker 8: other they'd still be in this thing. I know what

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01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 8: you're turning out.

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Speaker 1: My point is again used to be you're saying, well,

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: we've had teams in the past have twenty five days

1303
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: off from the end of the regular season to the

1304
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: bowl game, I'm like, yeah, but they were also playing

1305
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: another team that was off for twenty five days. So

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Speaker 1: you have a team off twenty five days coming against

1307
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: a team that's off eleven days after a big home victory.

1308
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Ohio State rebounded coming off that horrific gloss

1309
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: to Michigan with that convincing win at home against Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're up against it. But once again and

1311
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Speaker 1: remind everyone, not only will this be our sole feature

1312
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Speaker 1: on our podcast from today's show, but where else can

1313
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: people hear you aarin next?

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Speaker 8: Well, first, they can find me on the Steve Harmon

1315
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 8: and Monty Blanio Show from three leeks ago, and I

1316
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 8: said Cam Scattabho deserved more respect than the HAIs and race.

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Speaker 8: But no, I'm on a to eleven Pacific, which would

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Speaker 8: be eleven to two am Eastern every every Saturday night.

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Speaker 8: We'll obviously be on tonight watching a little talking a

1320
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 8: little bit about the two NFL games, talking some college

1321
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 8: football when we're reacting to everything we saw this week.

1322
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 8: And then I also do host the little show called

1323
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 8: The Eritoris Podcast, which is available Apple, Spotify, YouTube, wherever

1324
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 8: you get podcasts about.

1325
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: There it is the right air Taurus everybody once again

1326
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: once again, and Ian says, yeah, thank you. That will

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Speaker 1: be a major feature on the podcast today, right there,

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Speaker 1: all right, very good, awesome, thank you guys. All Right,

1329
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron is joining us every single Saturday breaking it

1330
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: down again and again. I said, all along. When people

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01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: said what do you expected this year's college Playoff? I said,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. We've never been there before, but

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: I do think there's gonna be some tweaking going. Uh.

1334
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: By the way, we've had some something happen in the

1335
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: game that's going on right now, let's find out what

1336
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: is trending. As Martin is back. All right, So this

1337
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: was a twenty one to ten game, and all of

1338
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, wow, why are the Ravens still

1339
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: got their starters in the game in a game they've

1340
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: already got one? Are they actually concerned about covering the spread? Hey? Hey,

1341
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: teams win, great teams.

1342
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: Cover, great teams cover.

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: I take it it's not twenty one to ten anymore.

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 10: Thirty five to ten to score now, Derek Henry just

1345
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 10: had a forty three yard touchdown run. She has one

1346
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 10: hundred and thirty eight yards rushing in two touchdowns. He

1347
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 10: also had an incentive in his contract today that if

1348
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 10: he scored a touchdown, he got more money than he

1349
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 10: would have if he did enough. I don't know the

1350
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 10: total amount, but I saw that and my little cheat

1351
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 10: sheet of things to bet on.

1352
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: Steam bet in this game because you were very in

1353
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: and best spread here. First of all, I never bet

1354
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: on anything because anytime I put money on a game,

1355
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: it's a loser. So I don't like losing money. So no,

1356
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a gambler peer not like you. I mean,

1357
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: you can bet on things and not be a gambler. Well,

1358
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: I make predictions, but I don't have any money on

1359
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Speaker 1: the line.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like to put money on

1362
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: the table. Ever understood, Jews.

1363
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Speaker 10: Because everybody who bet on Baltimore right now wiping their brows,

1364
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 10: squinting at the TV, say three or four left, hurry up,

1365
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 10: two fifty seven lefts, hurry up thirty five to ten

1366
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 10: the score as Martin will hurry up to the rest

1367
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Speaker 10: of this update. Lamar Jackson two hundred and seventeen yards

1368
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Speaker 10: of the year. Two touchdowns, one to Rashad Bateman, the

1369
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 10: other one to Mark Andrews. Jerry Judy getting a little

1370
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 10: run here. He's Oh my goodness, he's going to the end.

1371
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 10: Zel No, he's not all right. Bailey's appy. The fourth

1372
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Speaker 10: quarterback to start for Cleveland so far this year. He's

1373
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 10: got one hundred and sixty six yards passing, one touchdown,

1374
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 10: one interception. That interception was a pick six by Nate Wiggins.

1375
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 10: Cincinnati Bengals played the Pittsburgh Steelers in about thirty minutes.

1376
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 10: T Higgins expected to play in that game. Chase Brown

1377
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 10: likely will not. The Steelers and the Ravens both competing

1378
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 10: to win the AFC North.

1379
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Speaker 1: Right now, is that Jameis Winston back in there? No, no, no,

1380
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's still Bailey's happy.

1381
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Speaker 10: Thirty five to ten to score, they're in the red zone.

1382
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 10: I know, Steve, I'm watching for you. If they kick

1383
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 10: a field goal, you're still good on twenty one, but

1384
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 10: if they score a touchdown, you're cooked.

1385
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: Why would they go for a field goal with two

1386
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: and a half minutes ago down twenty five, Steve? Why

1387
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: is anybody doing anything? It's wow? That for town Tar,

1388
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Martin. Yeah, I'll tell you why.

1389
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: If the Browns actually were to kick a field goal

1390
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: that wouldn't even cover the spread. Oh and it's intercepted. Yea,

1391
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Speaker 1: that is intercepted by the largest man ever to intercept

1392
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: a pass. Who is that?

1393
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure, but he's very.

1394
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: Stoked to Would they just take a fan out of

1395
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: the stands and put a jersey on him? Look at

1396
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: the size of that guy. They're jumping all over him.

1397
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Speaker 2: What number was fifty eight? Fifty eight?

1398
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Speaker 6: Let me see it?

1399
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, my missing That guy had a gut that was

1400
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: hanging out. Martin, you have an ID.

1401
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 10: That is Michael Pierce formerly of two Lane Samford, undrafted

1402
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 10: free agent twenty sixteen, thirty two years old, first career interception.

1403
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: Congratulations, has not missed a meal and I love every

1404
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: second of that. Wow, So that will end it. He's

1405
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: three forty five on the internet for his weight, what

1406
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: three three forty five and he looks like he's like

1407
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: five eleven six feet tall. I mean that is a

1408
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: big man. That's a big girth around the middle. Look

1409
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: at this. The ball is so right at him too,

1410
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: What the heck? And then he goes tone and then

1411
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: he goes to a knee and no one touches him,

1412
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: So he gets up again. Look at the big guy go,

1413
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: I love it. Wow. All right, So indeed the Ravens

1414
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: will win the AFC North and they will cover this

1415
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: spread today thirty five to ten. The Ravens will run

1416
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: this thing out and I won if the Browns will

1417
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: actually call any timeouts to try to stop the clock.

1418
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: We got a two minute warning here, all right. You

1419
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: know what it is that time.

1420
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 5: Two minds are better than one, right too, Let's find

1421
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 5: out time to get down Genius is by the way,

1422
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 5: it's great to see Alex here.

1423
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: Yes, Alex, how are you man?

1424
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 6: What's popping?

1425
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: Good?

1426
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 6: Good? Good?

1427
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: You know we've been busy, Yes, but it's now Harman

1428
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: and yes, yeah have you noticed that now? Moncey stature

1429
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: wise very similar to breaking Yeah, one of his legs.

1430
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 6: He definitely could take you out.

1431
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about that. All right now Ian so

1432
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Ian is in today. I'm in for Patrick and so

1433
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: he was trying to figure this out. Our picks are

1434
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: like no other picks show. It's very confusing. Yeah, I

1435
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: try to get creative. We essentially go with the Stableford

1436
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: situation where we have points and not wins and losses.

1437
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: So going into last week, I was down five points

1438
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: to Moncey. Do you have an update of where we

1439
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: stand now?

1440
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 9: Yeah? So things are not getting any better for you, Steve. Unfortunately,

1441
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 9: as Moncey gained three points this past week, well you

1442
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,520
Speaker 9: gained two, so it's not like it was some complete.

1443
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: So it's six point lead now. Yeah, So am I

1444
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: doing the math right? It's twenty four, twenty two, twenty six,

1445
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: all right, still plenty of time? Gets all right? So

1446
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: what we do is we pick games and then you

1447
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: give us the over under on the game. If we

1448
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: go for the over under, we get a bonus point

1449
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: if we get it right, but if we get it wrong,

1450
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: we lose a point. And then we can make a

1451
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: bold prediction on a game for a bonus point. But

1452
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: it really has to be a bold prediction.

1453
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: You can veto it if we don't think.

1454
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: That's not a bold prediction.

1455
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 9: Okay, so I'm the judge there, got it? Okay, Well

1456
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 9: let's jump right in.

1457
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 6: Then.

1458
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 9: I guess the biggest game of the weekend is Vikings Lions,

1459
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 9: so we can start with that one. The over under

1460
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 9: is fifty six and a half. That is a big

1461
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 9: up there, but it's a big game.

1462
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: So wow, wow, who should go first here, let's start

1463
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: with Monzie Ladies.

1464
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: First, Okay, thank you.

1465
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 4: This one is it's tough, right because the Lions are depleted.

1466
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 4: We all know that they have so many players on

1467
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: IR but we also know that their offense is able

1468
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 4: to keep up.

1469
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: The Vikings is just.

1470
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: They're here and everyone is surprised. I'm surprised, and there's a.

1471
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: Couple of reasons. I want to give the edge to

1472
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: the Lions.

1473
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 4: They're at home, so I want to give them the edge. Also,

1474
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 4: I think experience matters. Jared Goff has been through some games,

1475
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: He's been to the Super Bowl, he has lost some

1476
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 4: tough games, and so I I'm taking the Lions, but

1477
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm not super comfortable about it.

1478
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: But I'm taking the Lions.

1479
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: This is tough. I mean, when you're down six, you

1480
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,879
Speaker 1: got to make up some ground. And we got playoffs

1481
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: coming up, so I don't have a lot of Now

1482
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm almost at the hail Mary situation. Now do I

1483
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: believe in the Vikings in this game?

1484
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no reason to not believe in them, right, Like,

1485
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 4: I believe in.

1486
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: The Vikings, and I'm taking the under fifty six and

1487
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: a half under take it to the bank. Under fifty

1488
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: six and a half, and I'll take the vikings, all right?

1489
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 9: Any bold predictions for that one or not feeling it?

1490
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: There's so many big like the.

1491
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: Bold is that you're thinking under you're crazy.

1492
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 1: No, I'm not crazy.

1493
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: The lines are going to shoot the lights out.

1494
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: I have a bold prediction.

1495
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 9: Okay.

1496
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: My bold prediction is that both quarterbacks Sam Darnold and

1497
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff will throw multiple interceptions. Both will have at

1498
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: least two interceptions in this game. What does GoF have

1499
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: ten interceptions? Multiple both of them, not just one.

1500
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: Both motions half of them give them one game.

1501
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 9: So there's at least four interceptions thrown in this game.

1502
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: But both have to have multiple three or four? Oh,

1503
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: both have to have it at least two interceptions, all right?

1504
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: That passes my yeah, okay, all right? So, uh you

1505
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: want anything else? You want the over?

1506
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 8: No?

1507
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: I don't want the over.

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, two more games as

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: we roll to the finish line. This is Game Day

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Speaker 1: Geniuses on Fox Football Saturday. Steve Hartman and Monsey Belanos

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: here Fox Football Saturday, coming alive from the tire rack

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Speaker 1: dot Com Studios. I want to thank everybody for helping

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: out today Martin, who's been doing everything yes Fox Sports Radio,

1515
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: hosting shows, doing the updates. He's been wearing many hats Alex.

1516
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: Great to have Alex back here today and Ian holding

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: down the four producing the show today. Doing a great

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: job so far. Ian. So let's get back to game

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01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: two of our three games that were picking here on

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01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: Game Day geniuses.

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 9: All right, Game two, we'll go with the Dolphins versus Jets. Now,

1522
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 9: the Jets are favored by one point over under his

1523
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 9: thirty eight and a half. Monty will start with you again.

1524
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: What are we thinking by with me again? Let him go?

1525
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, I'll go on this ye all right,

1526
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: don't you find an interesting the Jets are favored in

1527
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: this game?

1528
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 6: No?

1529
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean technically the Dolphins could be too many for

1530
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: something here. I know he's out, but they're still playing

1531
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: for something. And just because Aaron Rodgers is in, isn't

1532
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: obviously working for the Jets this year four and twelve? Jets?

1533
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: Do you see? Because I think a lot of people

1534
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: would agree with me, this is Aaron rodgers last game.

1535
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: Do I see Aaron Rodgers going out a loser or

1536
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: a winner?

1537
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 11: Could determine if it's his last game, could determine if

1538
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 11: it's his last game and it's at home, and it's

1539
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 11: at home, I predict that Aaron Rodgers will walk out

1540
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 11: a loser.

1541
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: Ah loer. This team has won two games in the

1542
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: last eleven games. They're a disaster, not only offensively, but

1543
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: defensively as well. I think the Dolphins will find a

1544
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: way even without Tua. I will take Miami to win

1545
01:14:58,720 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: this game.

1546
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: He made it really easy. I will take the Jets here, yes,

1547
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: because I feel like there's a little bit of pride

1548
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 2: here for Aaron Rodgers. He can't go out on a

1549
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: bad note.

1550
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 4: If this really is Yeah, yeah, that's what you're saying.

1551
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 4: If it could be his last game, He's not going

1552
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 4: to go out on a bad note.

1553
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: Everyone loves playing spoilers. So I'm going to take the

1554
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: Jets winning at home.

1555
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: Is what thirty eight and a half?

1556
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 9: Thirty eight and a half correct?

1557
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: Thirty eight and a half.

1558
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: I roll the dice again on the over under. That

1559
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: seems that's a small number. It seems like a little lot,

1560
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: But these are without Tua and Aaron Rodgers strut and

1561
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: I can't touch that one.

1562
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm going to take the over. I'm

1563
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: going to take the over.

1564
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: Who's starting at quarterback for Miami?

1565
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 2: He should be Tyler Huntley.

1566
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 9: Should be Snoop Puntley.

1567
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, okay, who was not terrible last week at all?

1568
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,480
Speaker 2: For them?

1569
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: I will predict I will have a ball ball to

1570
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: k go for it. The Tyler Huntley has more than

1571
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: one hundred more passing yards than Aaron Rodgers in this game.

1572
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: More than a hundred more yards in this game.

1573
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 9: Than Aaron Rodgers for Tyler Huntley.

1574
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: Is that a bold prediction?

1575
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 9: That's bold to me.

1576
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

1577
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 1: I'll take it.

1578
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: I don't have a bowld. I'll stick with my going

1579
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: over on this.

1580
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: She's playing a cautions right now. She thinks she has

1581
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: this in the back.

1582
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: He's not picking that, natchak just me taking the over

1583
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: on that one.

1584
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: All right?

1585
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 9: Then, last, but not least, we will will maybe least

1586
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 9: because we're taking the Panthers versus the Falcons. Now, the

1587
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 9: Falcons are favored by seven and a half, so more

1588
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 9: than a touchdown over under forty eight and a half.

1589
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 9: What are we thinking, guys, monci? We will start with I.

1590
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 4: Mean, okay, so obviously the Falcons are you know, better team,

1591
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 4: even though I like what the Panthers have been doing

1592
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, they would be a team

1593
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 4: that wants to play spoiler as well because they're trying

1594
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: to figure out next year in the years to come.

1595
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 4: But the Falcons, you know, still trying to win the division.

1596
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: If they win, do they get it.

1597
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: No, they have to have Tampa loose.

1598
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: They have to have Tampa loos. But they need to win.

1599
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean then the Falcons are gonna win.

1600
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: Falcons will win at home.

1601
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: Do I take three road teams? Yes, I do, and

1602
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. The Panthers have been close in

1603
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: a lot of games down the stretch. They have, and

1604
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: Bryce Young has definitely been playing better. I just feel

1605
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: like they're due for like one game. I absolutely can

1606
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: see Carolina winning this game. I mean, I have a

1607
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: clear vision. Now.

1608
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're not a Michael Pennock's believer

1609
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: in this.

1610
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not that, but I've been I've been

1611
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: sort of hyping out how Bryce Young has looked better

1612
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: and his confidence has been building. He just hasn't been

1613
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: rewarded with w's and I feel like this is it.

1614
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game. The Falcons are going to

1615
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: go down. It's not gonna be a knock on. Pinnick says,

1616
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer moving forward on Michael Pennix Junior.

1617
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: But I'm going Panthers all three road teams, all three

1618
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 1: road teams.

1619
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: He's trying. Yeah, you know, he's trying to make up

1620
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: for it. What's the over under on this one?

1621
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 9: Forty eight and a half.

1622
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: It's a big number, forty eight and a half. Yeah,

1623
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: that smells under. What do you think, Monci? I'd wager

1624
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 1: everything on that. I say, I want to get greedy

1625
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: here at this point.

1626
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: No, you could dig that. I really don't.

1627
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean I might be even after this.

1628
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 9: We got bad defenses, you got two quarterbacks. You've been

1629
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 9: slinging it.

1630
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1631
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, fair line.

1632
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just I feel like it's Week eighteen.

1633
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: Here's the problem, and if you get it wrong.

1634
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: You lose a point on the over under.

1635
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 9: The over under is the real and this is a

1636
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 9: big week for you, Steve. This is where you this

1637
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 9: is where you really need to make back here.

1638
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 6: I can't. I can't.

1639
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: I've had weeks where I make the right pick and

1640
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: then I blow the over under, and I lose the

1641
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: point that I want.

1642
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: He's done that so many times. It's it's funny because

1643
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: you're you want it. It seems to me like you

1644
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: would be leaning towards under when I feel like our

1645
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: producer Ian is kind of like, what are you talking about?

1646
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: This is probably gonna go over.

1647
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 9: Maybe I'm just zigging where you're.

1648
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't think it's that.

1649
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 9: Crazy of a line.

1650
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: That's what's interesting is I'm done. I have no bold prediction.

1651
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: Are you taking the over? Are you taking the under?

1652
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm not. She's very smart about these things. That's why

1653
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: it's very difficult because the only thing that can really

1654
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: screw you in our system is the overunder. That's where

1655
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: you get screwed.

1656
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

1657
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you pick a game right, you get

1658
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: a point, you don't lose anything. Bold prediction, get it right, great,

1659
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: you pick up a point, you don't lose that over

1660
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: under has been the death.

1661
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 4: It's like week eighteen for us, Like I am in

1662
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 4: the lead, so I'm taking the week off.

1663
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm taking it lightly by the way you have to.

1664
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: Mons's taking a knee.

1665
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: Steve, because it's a week eighteen. I've said, my sho.

1666
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: You just trying to run out the clock. But so anyway,

1667
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: moving forward, in a desperate attempt to catch you, since

1668
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: we will have four games, would you would you concede

1669
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: that from starting playoff time that we do every playoff game?

1670
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: Sure?

1671
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have four four to two that type

1672
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: of thing.

1673
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. You want to do that continue?

1674
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: Sure, and that's very very good. I like that idea.

1675
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: This could be one of the most devastating losses of

1676
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: my career. And that's saying something because I've had some

1677
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,879
Speaker 1: bad losses over the years. Okay, so we're a prediction

1678
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: here from you Montcy on this Bengals Steelers game. Boy,

1679
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: this is a tough game coming up here. I'm going

1680
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: to kick off in a few minutes. Both these teams

1681
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: desperately need to win.

1682
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: Which way you're leaning Bengals Bengals win it? Really Yeah,

1683
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm going Bengals.

1684
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: I know you're rooting for the Bengals. I'm going with

1685
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: a still curtain and hope keep it air. This is

1686
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 1: Fox Football Saturday,