1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: All right, while we have one minute, maybe even thirty seconds, 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: because Max Montsy is in the green room and almost ready. Trevor, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Roki Sazaki suddenly becoming a closer? 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Not even remotely surprising. We knew the guy can throw 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: low one hundred's. That is kind of the proud records 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: that these days to finish a game, and it came 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: right back. And then he's got one of the nastiest 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: hot speed pitches in the major leagues. He throws a 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: true fork pall like nobody does that. So for him 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: to be able to consolidate down to two pitches, which 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: was his problem as a starter, he's just kind of 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: it just makes all the sense in the world to 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: me that you don't need the command as much as 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: he needed it, and you only need two pitches, and 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: he's got both those things, So just let it eat 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: and simplify it. Now we see how much easier that 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: makes things for him, So it doesn't surprise me one bit. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: The guy's electric. 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good. Well, let's ask his teammate about 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: it right now. Max Mountsey of the Dodgers joining us 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: on FT we can start there. Max surprised, are you 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: that Roki Sasaki has popped up to be healthy and 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: look this damn good after missing most of the season. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, not not surprised at all, you know, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: I just it's just one of those things where he 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: needed to give a little confidence and h you know, 27 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: he's found a way to do that, and he looks 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: very comfortable in all that we put him in, and uh, 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: you know, he's ready to go every time we've called 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: on him so far. 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Max, I think these guys are like itching to ask 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: you about the wheel play from Game two, Sokratz. I'm 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna actually let you start. Why don't you start with 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: your best wheel we'll play question and then Trevor, I'm 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: sure we'll have one too. 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: I don't Eve, I don't even have a question. Take 37 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: us through exactly like each step of it, not like 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: from the pitching change, when was it thought of? What 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: was your thought going into that kind of meeting of 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: the world champions on the mound? 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that was probably one of the coolest 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: moments I've ever been involved with in my baseball career, 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: And not even just talking about the play, It was 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: more about how it came together. You know, Casianos hits 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: the double key Gamix the great through. At second we're 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: we're viewing the slide. You know, maybe he came off, 47 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: maybe he didn't. Obviously on the field, we can't tell 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: what's going on in the replay room, and uh, you know, 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: so WHI. While they're looking at the replay, Tommy and 50 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: Mooki are talking to each other and I I kind 51 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: of call him over and I'm like, hey, they're gonna 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: bunt right here. We need to be ready, you know, 53 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: let let's figure out we're gonna do. And right away 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: Mooki was like, well, let's go wheel play. Like let's 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: we talked about it about a month or two ago 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: in a situation where we wanted to do it and 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: we didn't end up doing it, and Mooki was just like, hey, 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: let's let's let's go wheel play. Let's do the wheel play. 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 3: You know, Tommy, you gotta get first. I'm gonna stay 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: behind him, I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: third and months you crash, and you know, we start 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: talking about it and we called Freddie over and we're like, hey, 63 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: here's here's what we're thinking. And you know, we start 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: talking about, well, second base is gonna be vacated, you know, 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: And immediately Freddie was just like, I'm I'm I'm charging hard. 66 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: As soon as the ball gets down to third base, 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm going straight to second base. And he's like, if 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: it comes to first, Max, you got to get to 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: second base. And immediately we were all just talking about that, 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it's just really cool. The replay 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: comes back, he's safe, Doc comes out, make pitching change, 72 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: bring invests and uh, you know, we go. We went 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: up to Doc and we're like, hey, here's what we're thinking, 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: and Doc Doc immediately was like, that's a great idea. 75 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: I like, where you guys are at, let's let's let's 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: go with this, you know. And you know, we just 77 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: sat there and discussed it the whole time, and it 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: was just really awesome to see like everyone come together 79 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: and be like, here's what we're doing. Because it's it's 80 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: a play that, in all honesty, we haven't practiced in 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: probably four or five years. Whenever they got rid of 82 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: the picture hitting that's the last time that we had 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: practiced a wheel play. Because nowadays, even if it's a 84 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: true bunt, you don't run a wheel play, it's just 85 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: make sure we getting out somewhere. And so for us 86 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: to be able to discuss that in that moment, in 87 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: that atmosphere, with the stakes as high as they were, 88 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: the pressure where it was like, to me, that was 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: just this one of the coolest moments I've ever been 90 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: involved of in my baseball career. 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: All right, No, I'll take us to actually the play 92 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: because what people don't understand is you have to crash 93 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: so hard to be able to get there in time, 94 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: to be able to stop and turn and make a perfect, 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: you know, five yard out route to Mookie Betts who 96 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: has Nick Castiano's barren down on them. Yeah. 97 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: So for for me from my you know what my 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: job was, I'm putting my heels pretty much on the baseline. 99 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: I need to be able and I'm I'm several feet in. 100 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: I need to be able to see the runner at second. 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: I need to be able to see the picture all 102 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: at the same time, I got to make sure that 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: you know, the runner at second is not just going 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: to take off, you know, because I'm vacating the bag early. 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: And also it was a little tricky because it's not 106 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: a traditional wheelplay, and as you guys know a traditional 107 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: wheel play that the shortstop sets everything off right, So 108 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: the shortstop pulls the guy close to second base, the 109 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: pitcher staring at him. He m give a couple of 110 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: fake jabs a second and as soon as the shortstop 111 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: takes off, that's when the pitcher is supposed to pick 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: up his leg and throw to home plate. That that's 113 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: like a traditional wheel play. You know, for us that 114 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: the picture had no idea we were running the wheel play. 115 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's just focused on making his pitch. We 116 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: didn't really talk to the picture about it because, you know, 117 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: in honesty, were like, hey, just you know, stay out 118 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: of the way. Me and Freddie got this, you know, 119 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: so we didn't even talk to him about. 120 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: What we were doing. 121 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: So he's focused on making his pitch, which means that 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: we're not going you know, off the shortstop starting to play. 123 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: So I have to be able to see what's you know, 124 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: I have to be able to see the picture at 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: the same time as the second the runner at second, 126 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: and the shortstop to make sure that everything's going properly. 127 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: As soon as the picture picks up his leg, I 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: have to sprint towards home without even knowing if he's 129 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: squaring around a bun or not, I like, I just 130 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: have to go and trust that he's gonna bund and 131 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: if he doesn't bunt, then we'll worry about that one later, 132 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: you know. And so you know, so for me, I 133 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: wanted my heels pretty much on the baseline on the 134 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: ground us because that way I know I can get 135 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: around any ball that's bunt, and that makes it an 136 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: easier transition for me to get my body to third base, 137 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: because otherwise, if I'm running in and I have to 138 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: field it off my right side and then find a 139 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: way to turn, like, that's just not gonna happen. It's 140 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: gonna take too long. He's gonna be safe. So I 141 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: need to be able to get around that ball regardless 142 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: of where it's one of that. And so that's why 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: for me, I wanted my heels on the baseline, and 144 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: then it's just trust the guy's gonna bun it and 145 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: crash as hard as hard as I can. 146 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: So firstly, the fact that you guys all gathered together 147 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: and like looked at each other, like are we about 148 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: to do the wheel play? Is the is this the 149 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: perfect time to replay? It? Is awesome because like even 150 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: the teams I was on that actually kept doing practicing 151 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: and wheel play. You do it it once in spring 152 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: and then six months later you hope that it didn't 153 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: come up in the playoffs. So that's sick. But secondly, 154 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of other context that I'm interested 155 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: if it was part of the conversation as well, with 156 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: the fact that Harrison Bader you know, was probably I 157 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: don't know if you guys knew he might have been 158 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: coming up next to pinch hit, and the fact that 159 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Castianos wasn't having a pinch hit or for him, there's 160 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: not a ton of speed there. So like the planets 161 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: really did a lie like that? Did that come into 162 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: the conversation as well? Like we have Castianos, he doesn't 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: run really well, this might work really question. 164 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: Not necessarily. We we knew they weren't going to pincher 165 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: un for him because they didn't have any options at 166 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: that point. We knew Baterer's leg was was was bad. 167 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: You know, obviously it was good enough for him to 168 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: pinch it, but you know, we we didn't think we 169 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: we thought if they're gonna do anything, they'd pincher for 170 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: one of the lefties. Against Vessia, and that's what they 171 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: ended up doing. So the run around second wasn't so 172 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: much a part of the conversation as it was you know, Mook, 173 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: you just have to make sure you beat him to 174 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: the bag. And you know that that that's also where 175 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: us knowing what we're doing, it gives MOOKI the chance 176 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: to get that head start. And you know, for the 177 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: run around second, he has to make sure he sees 178 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: the ball down. You know, the ball can't go up 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: in the air. He's got to get that read. And 180 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: you know when I when I rewatched the overhead, Castianos 181 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: did everything right. He got a secondary, he saw the 182 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: ball down, he didn't hesitate, he went immediately. It's just 183 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: we ran everything to perfection. And you know, one of 184 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: the things we were talking about was there's about a 185 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: hundred different ways that that play could have went wrong, 186 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: and realistically only about one or two ways that it 187 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: could have went right. And you know, the one way 188 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: it went right was how it did for us. The 189 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: other ways if he bunts it hard to Freddy, who's 190 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: who's right there? 191 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: Also? 192 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean that's those are really the only two ways 193 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: that it goes right. There's there's a hundred different ways 194 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: I make a bad throw. I don't feel it cleanly. 195 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: If he goes to Freddie, Freddie takes too long to 196 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 3: get rid of it because he's he's got to turn 197 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: his body. You know, Mookie's doesn't get there in time. 198 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: The throw is not just right right there from the tag, 199 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: he misses the tag. There's a hundred different ways that 200 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: play could have went wrong. And it's kind of just 201 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: the do or die situation for us, and you know, 202 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: we we we pulled it off. 203 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Could you hear anything like, let's say VESSI, he bunched 204 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: the ball to Vessie and you never want the ball 205 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: on the pitcher's hand. But I feel like he is 206 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: pretty athletic and absolutely skeed it out of his mind 207 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: when he's out there. 208 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's when when when Vest gets on that rubber, 209 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 3: he's pretty amped up, and uh, you know, it's it's 210 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: awesome to watch him do his thing. He's he's probably 211 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: the most high energy guy we have when he gets 212 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: on the rubber, and you know, it's fun when he's 213 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: out there. But yeah, in that situation, you don't it 214 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: doesn't matter who the picture is, you don't want him 215 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: fielding the ball. You know, you want either the first 216 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: basement or third base and fielding the ball. And uh, 217 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: you know that that's a little bit of the tricky 218 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: thing when the pitcher doesn't know what we're doing. And 219 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: you kind of saw that Ves went He actually went 220 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: after the bunt. If you look at the overhead film 221 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: of it, he went after the bunt, didn't know I 222 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: was right there, and then when he saw me, he 223 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: kind of freaked out and just dropped to the ground. 224 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: And and then after the play, it was like jail break. 225 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: Everyone's running towards second base, even though Freddy was there. 226 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: It was like, we got to make sure we got 227 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: someone there. Everyone's sprinting towards second base. We had key 228 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: k leftfield running towards second the vess he was running 229 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: towards second. Mookie'd make the tag he's running to Like, 230 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: everyone sprinting towards second base, make sure we got someone there. 231 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: It was kind of funny. 232 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: This is our actual shout out here to Fox one 233 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: and the streaming app and how you can get that 234 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: app for free for seven days. Try it out and 235 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: get a little Tigers Mariners today, also Yankees and Blue 236 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: Jays at night. Also NFL Action College Football Action that 237 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: includes Big Noons Saturdays. It's all there. There's plenty of 238 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: shows to check out as well, which we'll dive into 239 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: over the next few weeks. But Fox one is the app. 240 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: You can get more information at Fox O n E 241 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: dot com. That's the spot there. 242 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: It is, Trevor. 243 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: You're the only one that hasn't seen that one yet. 244 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Do you like what we did there with the graphic? 245 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: Love it? Love it? 246 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: Anytime I can look at Tom, I'm I'm happy. 247 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: Yes, Tom looks back that jaw. Wow, chiseled chiseled Tom 248 00:10:54,040 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: on Sundays, Pierzinski on many weekdays, on games and Saturdays 249 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: throughout the regular season. 250 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: The question in Philly is why is he bunting? What's 251 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: the deal with that? Look at your lineup that you 252 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: guys have. If you guys were in the exact same situation, 253 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: who do you guys have bunting? And is there nobody 254 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: that bunts in that situation? 255 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: I mean that that's the most no brainer bunt situation 256 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. You have no out guy on second 257 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: base lefty lefty matchup, and not just left lefty matchup, 258 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: You're talking about an extreme with with Vestia an extreme 259 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: fly ball, strikeout pitcher like, the ball doesn't get hit 260 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: on the ground. With Vessia, that's an extreme fly ball, 261 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: you know, strikeout picture like, that's just an obvious bunt situation. 262 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: And he laid down a great bunt. I just happened 263 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: to be five feet away when he was doing it. 264 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: And you know, if I'm not crashing, when I crash, 265 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: if I'm a split second late, he's safe at third. 266 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: Like it. 267 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: It was a great bunt, and that's a h undred 268 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: percent the right baseball play. There's no questioning that. If 269 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: if it's our lineup, I mean, I don't know that's 270 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: a you know, we have several guys that would definitely 271 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: be able to get to get that job done. I 272 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: don't know who who Doc would ask to do it. 273 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: But you know, he's he's he's probably not asking any 274 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: of the top three guys to do that. I'll say that, 275 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't think he's asking show Hey to lay down 276 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: a bunt right there. But uh, you know, if if 277 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: you're the first baseman crashing, you're probably hoping that Show 278 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: he's bunning. You probably don't want him swinging away. But yeah, 279 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: it Uh you know Ben for us, he's been getting 280 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: down bunts left and right. Mickey Rose been getting down bunts. Uh. 281 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: You know key K can get down a bunt with 282 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: the best of them. In the playoffs, you kind of 283 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: want key K swinging away, but he could definitely get 284 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: down the bunt. You know, we had a lot of 285 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: guys that that would be able to get the bunt down. 286 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Great, you can ask that question. It's worth the ask Krats. 287 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: I'll also just add go ahead. 288 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: Could show hey get it down? Come? I say no, 289 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: because like he does everything so personal. 290 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: You know, I would assume he could. But at the 291 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 3: same time, I don't know. I've never seen him, you know, 292 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: because he never hits VP on the field. He always 293 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: does his stuff in the cage, and so I've never 294 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: seen him, you know, lay down to like you know, VP, 295 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: your first your first round, you always lay down two 296 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: or three bunds. It's just kind of you know, it's 297 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 3: kind of just like tradition at that point, you just 298 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 3: lay down a bund before your VP round, Like even 299 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: Freddie will lay down a bund before his first BP round, 300 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: and it's just you know, so I've never seen Show 301 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: actually do it. I would assume he could. He's the 302 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: best at everything, but you know, I have no idea. 303 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: On the playe in general. Last thought, there are many 304 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: coaches who coach youngsters out there who are like, yes. 305 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: Thank you. 306 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be very valuable for me for years 307 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: to come when kids complain and I'm gonna be like, 308 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: oh really, let me show you a little video. So 309 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: thank you from many coaches all all across the globe. 310 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: We got comments about that, so I'm sure you'll get 311 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: plenty too. 312 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: Max. 313 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about show Hay since 314 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: we actually have seen him now pitch and hit in 315 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: a postseason game for the first time. Last year was 316 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: his postseason introduction. How cool was it to actually witness 317 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: that kind of history in you know, the biggest stage 318 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: of our game. 319 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: It was wild, you know, and Freddie talked about this 320 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: a little bit post game the other day, but you're 321 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: talking about one of the best atmospheres in all of baseball. 322 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: Playoff baseball in Philadelphia. That's like, I mean, that's tops. 323 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's unreal there. It's extremely loud, like you 324 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: feel it. You know, they're so into the game there there, 325 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: you know, you can't even hear yourself thinking, you know, 326 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: for that to be show Hay's first pitching experience and 327 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: for him to come out of it the way he did. 328 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean he had the one bad inning, but other 329 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: than that, he kind of dominated and it was just 330 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: really cool to watch him do it. You know, he 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: loves pitching. I tell that to media guys all the time, 332 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: Like he just absolutely loves pitching. He loves talking about pitching, 333 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: he loves working on it. You know, he works way 334 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: more at pitching than he does hitting, and like that's 335 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: just how much he loves to pitch, Like he's all 336 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: about it. And you know, he went out there and 337 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: like I said, with the exception of the one inning, 338 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: he he really dominated and he was so frustrated at 339 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: himself for that one inning. And uh, you know he 340 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: went out there and still gave us six innings with 341 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: what was a nine or ten punchies. And you know, 342 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: that's an unbelievable postseason start if you for a starter 343 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: in the postseason, and you've seen it so far this 344 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: year when you watch the other games, you know, for 345 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: the starting pitcher to get you give you more than 346 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: four innings. Like I know, they say a quality starts 347 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: six innings. I think in the postseason, equality starts getting 348 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: four innings out of your starter, and so for him 349 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: to give us six innings like that, it was just unbelievable. 350 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: Ending a sentence talking about show here Tani. Unbelievable, super surprising. 351 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Uh So, now finally we got a rity, we got 352 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: a ride. We've got Aaron Nolah on the mound for 353 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: the Phillies. You didn't start the first two games with 354 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: understandably two very very tough lefties in there. So that's 355 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: something you're not used to. You're you're a guy who 356 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: starts most of the games. Are you a nervous energy guy? 357 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: Are you like pacing around? Are you like doing the 358 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Robbie Grossman and just never won't put your bat down? 359 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: Or are you guys like, you know what, when it's 360 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: my spot, I'm ready to go. I've been I've been 361 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: around the block. Uh you know, just let me know 362 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: when I'm gonna go in there. I'll give you, I'll 363 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: give you what you need. 364 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 365 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my my first postseason in eighteen, it 366 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: was that's how it was. I didn't play against the lefties. 367 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: You know, we we had an extreme line change in 368 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. You know when when a left, he was 369 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: on the mound. We between me, Belly Jock, and I 370 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: believe Grondal. You know, we had like one hundred and 371 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: thirty home runs sitting on the bench something like that. 372 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's it. It's something that I'd done before, 373 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: and I remembered how I how I handled it back then. 374 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: And you know, the the end goal is to win 375 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: the game. I don't care if I'm playing or not. 376 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: I want to win the game. If if I go 377 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: the entire postseason and I don't get a single bat, 378 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: will we win it that that's that's success. I don't 379 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: care if I get a hundred of bats and we win, 380 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 3: that success it you know, for me, winning is all 381 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: that matters. And so you know when when Doc comes 382 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: up and he's talking to me and he's you know, 383 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 3: he here's what I'm thinking. I just, hey, I'm all 384 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: on board. Whatever you need me to do. If you 385 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: need me to pinch it and the second inning, the 386 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: fifth inning, the ninth inning, not hit it all you 387 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: need me to start, you know, whatever role you need me, 388 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: and I'm here to help the team win. And that's 389 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: where everyone's at on our on our team. We have 390 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: an entire group of guys. That's I don't care how 391 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: you use me. When you use me, I'm gonna be 392 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: ready at all times from from pitch one. You just 393 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: whenever you call my number, I'll be there ready to go. 394 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: And you know for me that that like, that's how 395 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: all of our bench guys are. After we watch the 396 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: first inning, we we like to get a taste for 397 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: the atmosphere, seat it's going. And then from there it's 398 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: do whatever you have to do to make sure you 399 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 3: stay loose so that when a situation comes up, you're 400 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: not having to try to get loose quickly. It's just, oh, 401 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: I just need two or three swings. Now I'm ready 402 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: to go into the game. Because I've been loose to 403 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: the entire game. I'm finding the way to stay loose. 404 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm moving around. I'm not just sitting on the bench, 405 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, I'm constantly moving. I'm paying attention to the game. 406 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: I'm watching situation. I got my eye on the bullpen camera, 407 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: you know, so you got to make sure you're watching 408 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: all your own guys. Is does something look off with 409 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: somebody like he might need to come out of the game. 410 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: You know, you can't get ambushed. And that's one of 411 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: the things that I've always tried to emphasize to guys 412 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: when we get into the postseason is you know, things 413 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: move quickly. And I have this talk with the bullpen 414 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: every single year. I go around to each of the 415 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: guys and I tell them, I say, hey, things move quickly. 416 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 3: If something goes a ride, don't be surprised if they 417 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: call down in the first inning the second inning, Like, 418 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: don't give them any reason to have an excuse for you. 419 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: Make sure you're always ready to go, so that if 420 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: they call down, you only need your seven or eight 421 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: throws to make sure you're ready to go into the game. Like, 422 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: it's the same thing from a position player standpoint, don't 423 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: give them any reason to have an excuse. Well, well, 424 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: you know we we told him to get ready and 425 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: he wasn't ready, so he went out there and had 426 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: a bat Like, no, you got to make sure you 427 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: have you're you're ready at all times. And you know, 428 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: that's one of the things that we try to emphasize 429 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: when we get in the postseason because it moves, it 430 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: moves quickly. You know, the starting pitcher can be just 431 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: rolling through it and then all of a sudden, And 432 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: we saw this from the Philly standpoint. The lefties were 433 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: kind of rolling through the game a little bit, and 434 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, it was like, Okay, here's 435 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: a base hit, here's a walk. Well, now the bullpen's 436 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: going and now that guy's in the game. And it 437 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: was just a one batter difference. So you have to 438 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: find a way to stay ready at all times. 439 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: Is that more exhausting than playing all nine? I always 440 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: felt like the games where you were like you were 441 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: going to pinch hit by the third inning, all the 442 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: way to the ninth, it just felt like afterwards, you're. 443 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Like, if you're not exhausted after a postseason game, whether 444 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: you played or not, you're not doing it right. You 445 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: should be invested in the game from pitch one, ready 446 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: to go, and even if you're not playing, you should 447 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: be exhausted from being that invested into the game mentally, 448 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: and just you know, the postseason games are different. You know, 449 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: I always explain to people it's like playing it's like 450 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: playing three eighteen inning games in a row, like that's 451 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: what one postseason game is. Just mentally, like you're just 452 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: exhausted mentally after these games and you know, that's that's 453 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: how it should be, like, you should be thinking that much. 454 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: And you know, when you look at our roster in general, 455 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: we have so much experience. You know, you go, you 456 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: back to the wheel play you talk about you have 457 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: four guys on the infield with ten years of service 458 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: time just immediately being like, Okay, here's what we're doing. 459 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: We're we're not freaking out about it. Hey, we're doing this, 460 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: We're talking about this. It's the same thing in the 461 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: outfield with those guys. You know, Kik's leading them out 462 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: there saying, hey, you know, if we get in this situation, 463 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: we got to play a little bit deeper. We got 464 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: to move over here, we got to move over there. 465 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: You should be just mentally exhausted, regardless of whether you're 466 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: in the game or not, just playing along with. 467 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 4: It right, mentally exhausted or physic raking your experience against 468 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 4: Aaron Nola. Obviously A J. Persinski is not on here. 469 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: He would say, I. 470 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: Was half expecting him to jump into this call just 471 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: to make a comment about his last talk with me 472 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: before I face there. Did you see I know, I know, 473 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: I know he's he's probably just got salive out of 474 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: his mouth just you know, thinking about this right now. 475 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 4: He definitely takes all of the all of the credit 476 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: for getting three hits off of a big league picture 477 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: for you, but did you see anything different? And after that? 478 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 4: Is your feeling after that, like, Okay, that was the 479 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: last time you faced Nola. Do you have a little 480 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: bit higher level of confidence or do you sit there 481 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: and go, I'll wait and see until I see what 482 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 4: we have tonight when I'm out there facing. 483 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: No I mean, you definitely try to, Like you know, baseball, 484 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: you try to take the confidence when you can get it, 485 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: whether it's real or not. You try to take the confidence. 486 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: And you know there's a little bit of a well 487 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: maybe he didn't make his pitches. Maybe maybe I just 488 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: had a really good I was feeling it that day. 489 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: You know, there's all of that. But at the same time, 490 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: you try to take the confidence where you can get it, 491 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: especially in this game at this time of year. You know, 492 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: any in that's anything you can get to give you 493 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: that little extra edge, You're gonna take that. 494 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: Max great stuff today. We appreciate the stop by, especially 495 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: during the postseason. Stay locked in, good luck. Tonight We'll 496 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: be watching and we'll talk. 497 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: To you soon, dude. 498 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: All right, sounds great. Thanks for having me on guys,