WEBVTT - Hangin' with the 'Boys: Omar Epps Stops By 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.400 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:24.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Blowing out of the backfield, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:30.400 exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, broadcasting 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.760 live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:42.800 Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross Oxnard, 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.920 Sunday afternoon. And you're probably wondering why in the hell 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.360 is Hanging with the Boys doing a podcast on sir. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.959 They're wondering because we are joined by a very special 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.000 guest special and so we decided to do a very 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:05.240 special show. Mister Derrick Eagleton has joined today. Just kidding, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:10.960 just kidding, many shows. You know. I try to do 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.600 what I can do when I can do it. We've 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.039 been trying to get this guy to come on our 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.039 show to help us out for about two years. Yes, 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.880 he gives us the hisman every time we have a 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.080 special guest, Omar Epps on the show and not only 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.039 invites himself on the show, he says, I'm coming on 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.840 the show and he's the boss, so we had to 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.280 let him on the show. Sometimes you pull rain, Yeah, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.679 welcome to the show. Man, welcome to camp. To be 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.800 here and to expand on that. I'm out there doing 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.480 some work. I'm charging some plays and work looking at 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.920 some things, and he wants to do this. Man, he said, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.959 we gotta we got somebody come to the show. I 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.600 said who, I said, you got Old Marster. That's great, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.000 he'sa nah, somebody else coming? I said, who is this? 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:56.480 I'm trying to guess Broadest Sneaky Spack, Nola, mister Jones, Na, 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.280 Derek Eagle. Thank you. I told Shannon when he told 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.120 me you were coming, I was like, dude, like, is 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.800 like major to me? Like going back to Juice and yeah, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.000 a whole night into Deep man, I love that movie. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.560 Maybe score them a little bit on the on the 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.400 pool table scene, but yeah, yeah. I was like when 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:16.760 when I heard you were coming on, I was like, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.560 I gotta be on, man, Yeah, I gotta be on. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.880 So tell us how did you become a Cowboy fan? 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.000 How long you've been a Cowboy fan? And give us 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.840 some background. Been a Cowboy fan my whole life. So 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.440 I'm born and raised Brooklyn, New York. Um. But when 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.959 I was a kid, Tony Dorsett was my favorite player, right, Um, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.799 So that's what it is. You know, I was, I 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.920 was riding with or set and so I've been you know, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.200 I've been Cowboys fan ever since. Was that tough growing 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.040 up in Brooklyn and being a Cowboy fan? No, I 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.400 mean a little bit, um because all New York teams 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:51.400 sucked back then. Anyway, Yes, that's like but um, you 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.400 know when we after after the glory days of the nineties, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.960 you know, it was a little tough. Yeah, it's been 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.160 a little tough. But I wrapped face fully, right, I'm 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:07.360 out there social media Cowboys Nation, right, But tell us 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.240 this right here before we get into you man, what 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.720 were did you play football? Was you athletic coming up 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.440 through high school, middle school, elementary? Tell us about that. Yeah, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.480 I used to actually play for Pop Warner team called 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.800 the Brooklyn Skyhawks. Um, you know, I thought I would 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.919 one day be on the field. And then I was 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.520 about sixteen, I got hit real hard. I was like, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.080 maybe I can act like a football And then Malik 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:38.080 Jefferson was born. Yeah, how'd you get into acting? I 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.360 got into acting. I always kind of been into the arts. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.800 My grandmother was an artist, my grandfather was a jazz musician, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.320 and I've been writing for as long as I can remember, 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.880 and write poetry, short stories, raps, stuff like that. So 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.400 it just kind of became an extension of that. Um 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.360 just performing in like my acting hero at Sydney Portier, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.280 you know, grew up watching him, so I'll just was 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.320 influenced by his gifts. And then I ended up going 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.680 to high school performing arts in New York, which is 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.600 the you know, the Fame School and all that, and 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.000 that was it. Man. It's just such an incredible environment 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.640 to foster artistry and and I mean, and then I 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.320 was just blessed with opportunity. Right out of high school. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.600 I booked my first film. And having looked back as 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.240 a kid born in the seventies, obviously going through the 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.600 nineties and hip ho hop and Tupac? How was it 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.960 working with Tupac? Like, I mean, you obviously worked with 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.599 him in Juice. Talked to us a little bit about 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.560 that interaction and what kind of man was he? Man? 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.840 That was a magical experience, man, and Pop was just 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.680 a he was everything that you think he would be like, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.120 you know, and I'm not talking about famous people, you know, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.719 there's just certain personalities of people who were just larger 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.479 than life. And they have a different aura. He was 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.400 one of those people, and you know, it was just 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.320 it was just people with kids. Man, I was I 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.240 was seventeen. I think he might have been nineteen or 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.600 something like that. So we were just kind of living 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.640 a dream and just I'm just fortunate and thankful to 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.640 have been a part of that. You know, I'm gonna 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.720 keep going back, be a little more detail in your 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.599 in your childhood. Was you brought up in a good home, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.640 soil at home, one family, explaining that because I want 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.400 kids to know that no matter where you come from, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.799 how you do it, it's a story behind everybody. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.800 you know I grew up, uh, you know, blue collar. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.560 My mother was was an educator and board of education, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.359 single parent, household, I grew up. I didn't know my 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.039 father growing up, and uh, and it was rough. But 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.920 you know, my mom's is my superhero and my super 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.919 woman to this day. And if it wasn't for her, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.559 I wouldn't be here. The thing because I just actually 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.520 wrote a book called From Fatherless to Fatherhood. That chronicle 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.240 was my story growing up without a father and then 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.520 becoming a father. So it's interesting that you asked that question, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.400 But you know, my mother instilled a sense of self 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.080 worth in me at a very young age. I always 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.240 felt that I was valued, you know, in our household, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.920 and that that's kind of what got me here because 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.120 you know, when the peer pressure would come and things 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.279 of that that happened in those type of environments. I 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.200 always knew I was looking at life as a marathon. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.080 Wasn't about a quick fix or a quick thing. And 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.719 I never wanted to put negative into the world. I 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.440 didn't want to be successful by negativity, you know what 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.280 I mean. So, yeah, man, that's my story. I've been grinding, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.159 you know, just focus. I've been dreaming about what I 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.000 do for a living since I was twelve years old, right, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.520 you know, And I tell kids that all the time. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.919 You got to you gotta see it, and then you 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.280 structure your life around that. You know, everything has a 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.359 science to it, and everything is a craft, and you 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.200 gotta respect it and learn it. And then you just 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.800 keep grinding and you keep grounding. When opportunity knocks, you 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.000 better be ready to kick that door open. You talk 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.840 about fatherhood, I know that when I became a father, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.200 I was there were so many lessons you learned because 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.600 you start going through and you're teaching this this person 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.200 how to become an adult. Right, give me one thing, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.120 just if you had to boil it down to one 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.760 thing that you've learned in the process of being a 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.400 father that's kind of helped you in your life as 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.560 a man, one thing that you think kind of is 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.320 has stood out as that one big lesson. That's that's 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.440 hard to pick one thing out of I know, but 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.839 I would say I think the main thing is that 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.880 time is the most valuable thing on earth. This is 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.040 the most invaluable thing that exists. Time. And so you know, 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.800 just as a parent, a mother or father, that's your 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.880 most precious thing that you can give your kids, your time. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.080 You have to be present, you gotta be active because 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.040 you know when when when kids grow up, the things 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.640 that they remember was that time, you know, dad came 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.600 to my baseball game, or that time you know mom 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.240 did such and such and such that I had nothing 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.960 to do with buying me a pair of sneakers or 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.560 a video game. So if I had to boil it down, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.520 I would pick this to go. It's so true. I played, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.679 you know, I was fortunate to get on every level 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.520 of football. But I can remember every game because my 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.640 dad was just a worker man, and so every game 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.400 that he showed up, they're like, hey man, your mom 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.400 want to visit a thousand game? But dad came to 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.520 this right right, you know, right when I got my 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.520 dad to come to the Hawaii to the Pro Bowl, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.600 I was in heaven. Man, Hey, I opened the checkbook. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:06.040 I was are afterward. But what do you want? You know, brothers, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.760 time be that form man, that's be there, man, what 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:17.320 you got yours legit? So walk us through being a 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.640 being a cowboy fan? What's it? What's a game? Obviously 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.920 you're super busy right now, career, you know all that stuff. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.360 But are you able to watch games? If you are, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.000 like are you glued? Are you screaming? Or you like, 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.320 how do you watch? What's your Sundays? Like my Sunday is, um, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.559 I'm coming downstairs and living room. Everybody know to leave 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.840 me alone. My mother in law is a Giants fan, right, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.760 and she's very vociferous fan, all right, and she lives 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.679 right behind us. So we you know, if we if 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.720 we playing like we don't even she like we don't 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.640 speak until after the game, right right right, and if 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.720 if if we take the l I don't want to talk. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.360 If we beat them, I'm gonna go van lies of 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.840 backyard right. But that's it, you know, typical Sunday is 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.960 you know, uh whatever, I'm gonna eat sitting right there 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.160 and I'm waiting for the game. You know, I'll be 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.319 watching all the games. But when we come on and 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.120 I'm very uh, I think I'm I think I'm the coach. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.800 I'm one of those guys. I'm streaming at the guys. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.880 I'm screaming at everybody and kids are like, all right, dad, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.679 so give me your state of the union right now? 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.400 What do you what do you think whether whether team 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.280 is heading into twenty and eighteen. I'm actually excited, man. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.880 Look when we got all of the Dad's man, thank 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.079 you for you know, all of the gay to the team, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.880 you know, salute to future Hall of Fame and winning. Um. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.400 I didn't at first, you know, when the whole desk 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.520 thing happened, I was like, all right, well, what's the 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.560 you know, do we have something set up for that? 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.160 And from what I see now, I'm kind of I'm excited. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.840 It's it's it's basically like, okay, it's we're going young 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.960 and um we still got some great people. I think 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.680 I'm I think Zeke's gonna have a monster year. I 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.200 just have some feeling about that. I think I d 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.920 is gonna be better than a lot of people think, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.720 because I was surprised at our d last season. Um, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.959 and it's to me, it's all about that if that 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.680 can take his experience from last season but inject back 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.800 that fun and sort of he wasn't thinking in his 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.920 first season. You know, last season you can tell he 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.000 was in his head. But so if he can combine 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.400 those two, man, I like our chances, their experienced with 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:30.480 an enthusiasts, that's the word. And you know we gotta Um, 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.920 it's gonna be a good year because we gotta knock 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.000 off the beast man. They in our division, no doubt. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.640 You know, they got the chips. So we're playing them twice, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.560 so we're gonna You know, when you saw that the Eagles, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:47.160 who ain't never won nothinging, When you saw that, what 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.560 was your feelings? Man? Watching the Super Bowl? Did you 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.199 rep did you say, hey, I'm father them because then 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.000 the East or did you say, man, I ain't going 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.240 with Eagles regardless, No, I'm still with you know, with 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.560 our squad but right I was, I know, you know, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.000 you know what, I knew they were gonna win. It 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.000 was one particular play. Remember they tried to pass. Uh, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.920 they tried to pass play to Tom Brady and they 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.079 and it didn't work. Yeah, when the Eagles came back 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.840 and do the same play the Nick Foles and it worked. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.240 I literally said that my boy. I said, oh, they're 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.120 about to win this game, you know what I mean, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.000 because they just I mean, they just played a hell 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.400 of a game, you know, And um, I can't I 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.760 don't know. I think Belichick got out coached. That was 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.640 the first time I saw that. You know, they kind 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.200 of their offensive modulation was was impeccable. So it pains 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.439 me to say this, but the Eagles deserved to win. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.679 They took that game from New England. They one of 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.800 the few teams that didn't sit back and go, let's 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.240 play it safe. We got they kept on the gas. Yeah, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.680 they deserved. And you still answer that question, Oh mind, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:12:00.240 what did you cheer for the Eagle left? I was 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.000 happy for them, right like my co star on the show, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.520 Ryan Phillippi's He's from phillip So I was happy for him. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.280 I was happy, like for all my friends that are 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.480 Eagles fans. But you know, I'm I'm riding down cowboy man, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.640 just like, yeah, we're gonna see you next season. Talk 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.760 about the show a little bit, you're own shooter, right, yeah, shoot, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.480 what season are y'all in? Where? We just finished season three? 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.880 So knock on wood we'll be doing a season four. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.560 Huh Yeah. Man, We're having an absolute blast, a wonderful 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.079 time working with Ryan and John Lavin who created the show, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.160 and it's just been a hell of a ride man, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.640 because we're like, you know, we do all our stunts, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.800 a lot of you know, tactical stuff, fighting, weapons, training, 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.199 and um. So we're just kind of like two big 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.599 kids just and playing in the sandbox, you know, and 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.040 um and people love the show. So again, knock on 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.960 Wood season four. What is it doing your stunts? Obviously 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.840 doing that a little bit, I've seen assume a lot challenging, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.800 But how is that doing your own stats? It's fun. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.720 You just gotta train, like you gotta really, you know, 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:59.320 but I stunt cowboy train. No, Well, just you have 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.480 to be physics lead in shape, right, you know what 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.720 I mean? Because what do you go through? That's what 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.880 I'm saying. Put it out there. Oh I'm trained, like 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.959 you know, physical training. We also do, um we call 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.560 it a pilgrimage the Utah where we uh we do 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.400 a lot of weapons training at this time private ranch, 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.040 which is which you know all X Marines and you 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.040 know X law enforcement and just so that our characters 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.360 can we can deliver those subtleties and nuances that only 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.679 people from those world will really pick up, right, um, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.040 because we want them to feel like, all right, they're 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.800 doing it for real life. There was UM, I remember 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.000 seeing something online where um, I did something with a 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.400 weapon that had was called a side site, so you're 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.920 turning it that way. Somebody was like, where is he 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.080 turning it supposed to be? It's like because it has 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.360 a side side you know what I mean. Like X 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.760 Marines were like, dude, that's exactly what supposed to do. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.400 Oh my god. Yeah, you know, we gotta hit the 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.319 gym and um trains, I do cross fit and stuff 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.480 like that. A box. Yeah, it's gotta be ready. You 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.439 hear that coach, I mean what you're trying to say. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.200 I mean he he's he's these both of these guys 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.199 like the train I following him. I scouted him jogging yourself. Hey, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.480 I got it here. I get to the red light 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.800 about about three quarters of a mile from here, and 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.280 I'm waiting on the light to change, and I think 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.040 that this homeless person's riding about on the bike and 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:21.240 they start doing circles around me. I look up. Nature's grinned, like, hey, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.720 what's up. Yeah, they liked the jog, right, It is 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.440 more than life to jog. You gotta do a little 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.120 tactical training, bro, Yeah, I do a little bit of everything. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.680 You ain't seen these hands they I get these hands 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.360 on you. I see your hands ball, But I've seen 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.840 your hands in some sixteen houses. So what's what's your 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.240 favorite project? You had a pretty long career, you know 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.520 what's your favorite project that was just like, man, that 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.040 was a cool thing. I'm glad I was a part 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.080 of it, all of them, all of them. Man. I 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:53.280 feel like, you know, um, every every project in my mind, 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.680 it's like the old pieces of a big mosaic at 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.680 the end of at the end of my career. Um, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.360 you know, it'll be one big picture because I can't 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.480 because each journey has its own thing, It has its 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.680 own unique place in my heart or experience or something 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.280 that you know happened. But there's nothing like the first 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.240 I will say that, you know what I mean, Like this, this, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.520 you know, my very first project, Juice will always hold 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.240 a special place in my heart because that was like 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.160 the first one. You know. It's just kind of like amazing, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.760 you know, taking a train and set and um, and 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.720 we felt like we felt like we were doing something special, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.640 you know, we could. It's just that that in that time, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.640 what the film was about, how it is being captured. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.040 Shout out to Ernest Dickinson, who wrote and directed the film. Um, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.680 it was just an incredible experience. Yeah, so flip that. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.200 What's an opportunity that you didn't take that you look 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.080 back now, like, man, I should have taken out when 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.800 that was a bad decision. I haven't had that yet, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:51.040 have Yeah, I haven't had I haven't. I haven't turned 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.680 down anything this has been Um. Like I wanted to 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.800 do Dead Presidents but I didn't get it. Yeah, So 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.440 I was pissed when I saw the movie because I 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:02.000 was like, this is hot. You could have killed but yeah, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.200 I actually didn't get that one. But now I haven't. Um, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.320 I haven't swung and missed in that way. Okay, you know, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.400 and then you know, people are always asked me, like, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.440 is there anything that you want to do? You know, 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.240 I mean outside of like a biopic of like, you know, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.960 I've always wanted to play like Frederick Douglas, you know, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.640 tell about his life. But outside of that, creatively, my 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.320 process is different. I'm kind of open, you know. I 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.360 definitely want to get into comedy. I want to get 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.280 into action, you know, and just keep working. You know. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.560 What's what's funny about that is we're looking for an 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.520 action slash comedian on the Dallas Cowboys dot com staff. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.920 There's an opening, so we we might be able to 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.520 hook you up with that. All right, We'll have our 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.760 people talk. Okay, all right. I think he might be 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.600 a little bit out of our price range, but I 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.800 don't know. We're talking about it. You know, we buy 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:52.240 a few guys, and you know, I'm a cow biologist 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:57.160 because because the dead waits speaking of new guys, are 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.560 there any any neither rookies or second or third guys 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.200 that you're looking forward to see what they could do 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.320 out on the field. Yeah, I think I want to see, uh, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.840 what's his name that came over from the Jaguars the 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:15.520 other dude, what's his name from the Rams. It's a 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.600 couple of those. Guy. I want to see. I want 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.399 to see what's going on. We got the what's the 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:25.120 big boy from Alabama running back? Wait till you see 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.359 how big he is in person. I've heard he's he's 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.520 huge man. Yeah, but does he run mean? Yes? He does. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.639 We don't. I don't want the Brandon Jacobs big it 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.680 is what it is, A big tiptoe. Yeah, I don't 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.320 want big tiptoe. I want a big, mean, angry problem. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.920 He gonna bring thunder if they if he can find 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.600 a way. I don't know if they're gonna make him 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.840 play special teams or asking to play special team to 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:53.640 get on the active day roster. But me, they would 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.119 have got Clemson the second time if he would have 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.200 been if he had to stay healthy, right, that's been 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.479 his issue. He he runs so violent, he hurts himself. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.320 So I hope you can keep that on this. You 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.080 picked a great day to come out because today is 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:07.840 the first day they were in pad yesterday for the 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.119 first time. Today will be the first first day that 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.359 they go one on one drills for a length of 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.760 the practice. They did a little bit offensive defense yesterday, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.439 but only a couple of plays. But today you'll get 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.800 to see him go wide receiver DBS in the pads, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.679 so maybe maybe you get to see him knocks some 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.760 heads out there today. So I'm excited. I mean, you 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.480 guys are here, you know on the daily basis, what's 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:30.280 the what's the consensus, what's the feeling. Well, it's so early, man, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.639 it's so hard to tell right now, I will say this. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.639 I will say this though. Yesterday I was looking at 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.040 the at the dB group and I'm really interested in 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.439 seeing what Byron Jones can do, just because he didn't 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.880 really do a whole lot of safety and now moving 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.280 him to corner the defensive coordinator where I shouldn't say 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.119 defensive plinning secondary coach who may at some point be 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.040 coordinating part of the defense. I think he believes a 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.040 lot in him. And obviously he's got the skins on 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:54.840 the wall coming from Seattle and the guys that he 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.320 kind of brought up there. So I'm actually interested to see. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.320 And then Byron Jones get a really nice pick us today. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:01.359 I don't know if you saw that name, but he 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.879 got really nice he got and to me, that was 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.399 all about being able to track the ball, get at 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.480 a high point, make the play right. Because you see 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.520 all the times where quarterbacks make bad throws, but quarterback 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.440 don't always come down with it. He may. He came 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.439 down with it, So I'm really interested in watching him 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.919 a lot more. We got we got seven offensive linement 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.879 now that are interchange. But when we went out and 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.399 got the kid from from New England, Fleming, and we 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.600 got another kid, Maurice Marcus Mark whatever. He didn't have 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.119 a good day, number sixty. He can't go on the 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.240 well but up. But everybody else. Connor Williams, who we drafted, 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.320 he fitting right in. Oh, he looked good. We went 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.560 out first through the first row of one on one 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.720 pass rush. We thumped him that first time to the 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:43.440 second time. It is a little angler, so they got 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.040 with us a little bit. But we got a front 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.719 six I know that can play man. Okay. Yeah, And 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.920 that was the problem last year was that we've been 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.919 starting and you started losing guys. When you lost Tyren specifically, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.600 it was tough stuff going. So yeah, they better get after, 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.399 better get after. I want to see what Lawrence is 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:05.760