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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vanderkam. I'm a mother of four,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah hart Hunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On

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Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our

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Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode eighty seven. We're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking today about our first quarter or quintile

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Speaker 1: as the case may be, goals and how they've gone,

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Speaker 1: because we are already starting the second quarter or quintile

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Speaker 1: for one of our podcast hosts, Tiara, who prefers her

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Speaker 1: quintile system, and so how are we doing so? Tell

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Speaker 1: hous through the quintiles again, Sarah. In case other people

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Speaker 1: have not provided their year into five parts, I will

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Speaker 1: remind you all because I know I did review it

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Speaker 1: at least in one of the Planner episodes previously, but

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Speaker 1: you know most people do. January to March April to June,

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Speaker 1: July to September, October to December. My argument is this

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Speaker 1: if you have children, argument if you don't. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that it makes sense to divide summer up into

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Speaker 1: different time with its own unique motivations, and maybe you

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Speaker 1: have travel. It just doesn't really feel right to split

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Speaker 1: it up, and that traditional quarters do split it up.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like the more fresh starts the better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, within reason, if you had, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: of hand. But my answer to this was to instead

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Speaker 1: of dividing the year into four, you divide it into five.

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Speaker 1: So the first is January to spring break. In our case,

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Speaker 1: that's the end of March. The second is spring break

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Speaker 1: to the end of the school year. The third is summer,

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Speaker 1: which therefore gets doesn't get split up and chunked up

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Speaker 1: December are sort of like this special holiday winter. I

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Speaker 1: separate from that beginning of school year energy. They usually

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Speaker 1: include winter break and Thanksgiving, and so it's a lot

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Speaker 1: about how the year went. So I think that giving

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Speaker 1: it its own quintile adds to that. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's my argument for quintiles. Yeah, as I think about it,

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Speaker 1: just don't do one of the quintiles. I guess it

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Speaker 1: just gets none of the one. Well, that's the late spring.

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Speaker 1: So because I do the summer fund list, so I

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Speaker 1: have my list of sort of seasonal summer fun activities.

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Speaker 1: I had my Fall list this year, you know, so

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of the colors and such in the Northeast

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Speaker 1: in the fall, the holiday fund list, so the Christmas

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Speaker 1: related stuff, and then I had my winter, my post

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Speaker 1: think I think that does make sense. You go, And

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could do three month chunks that are

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Speaker 1: But you've got quite a demarcation between your first and

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Speaker 1: And at the moment, I have no plans for it.

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Speaker 1: of I really miss it, and we're having trouble finding

429
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: a date. But that'll be a goal for for next time.

430
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this was actually these were not on

431
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: my formal list, but I had always said I wanted

432
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 1: to try Orange Theory or similar and I finally did that.

433
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: So how did that go? That was? That was a

434
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: good one, right, like you yeah? Like group fitness? Yeah,

435
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: well I kind of knew that because I remember. I

436
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: don't if you remember. I used to go to fly Bar,

437
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: which is like the bar part of Flywheel. I'm not

438
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: into spinning, but I like the other part. That was

439
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: my Miami Beach version. But they never had good class times,

440
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: like it was targeted towards I think flexible twenty somethings

441
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: and maybe stay at home moms who would drop their

442
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: kids off so they'd have all these classes at like

443
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: nine am and nothing super early. So we moved and

444
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: this county, I think, tends to have more people with

445
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: traditional schedules, so there are numerous places with five am

446
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: and five thirty classes, and I picked one. It's actually

447
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: not a chain. It's called Ellen's Ultimate because people have

448
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: talked about it and it's awesome. It's similar to Orange Theory,

449
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: but like kind of maybe like if Orange Theory and

450
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: CrossFit had a child, it would be this. It really

451
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 1: fun and I like it, so that was good. And

452
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: then I started reading a little bit more again, which

453
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: was not really on my list, but I'm still happy

454
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: about it because I went through a big rut in January,

455
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: which I'm not going to blame Mirracami for. Really, if

456
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: there's a book you're just it can just all right

457
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: your momentum for it. Not even that I wasn't into it.

458
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: I actually still enjoy his writing style and I enjoy

459
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: I enjoy It wasn't a bad book, and I want

460
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: to go back to it. It just wasn't the book

461
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: for me right now. I need something. I needed something

462
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: more propulsive because I was just getting stuck and I

463
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: was falling asleep. And now that I found some good books,

464
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like back to my like just

465
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: wanting to read all the time, which is great. Yeah,

466
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: that's good, that's good. Yeah. Sometimes just you got to

467
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: stop what you're doing and put in another one and yeah,

468
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: it'll work, it'll work. Yeah, and you started it wasn't

469
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: on your list either, but you started a new workout thing.

470
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, no, I mean I was just thinking,

471
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: like what can I give myself credit for that? I

472
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: didn't put on my pall list and I went to

473
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: I went to the Obiju Iyan at some point in

474
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: Q one because I realized I hadn't gone in four

475
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: years and had to uh actually do all the paperwork

476
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: again as a new patient because it had been so long.

477
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Oh amazing. Yeah, oh well, I felt like I had

478
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: had adequate care in that regard for the many years

479
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: that I was having babies constantly. So I was, ah,

480
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: you made I was done with that. Go to the dermatologists,

481
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: but bit more for you know, cosmetic reasons, so that

482
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: that that is fun. I guess, so like self care

483
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: right there right there, stop looking like I'm forty years old. Well,

484
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: the dorm I'm going to is like medical and they

485
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: have other opportunities as well. I don't know if I'm

486
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: going to be exploring at this Yeah, well you don't

487
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: need to, but I may at some point. Yeah, I

488
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: was feeling like I needed to explore those opportunities. So

489
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: here we are, and yeah, I know, I I started

490
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: a new workout habit of actually doing some strength training.

491
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: I've I've said, you know, time and time again, like

492
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: oh I need to lift weights or you know, do

493
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: some sort of strength training type stuff, and never did.

494
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: And upon why because I clearly can stick with other

495
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: workout goals, and I generally believe it's like I don't

496
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: do what I don't want to do right, and if

497
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't really want to do it, then I don't

498
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: want to do it. But I realized I could build

499
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: in a queue into my life. And so I had

500
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: this chunk of time, you know, between eight ten and

501
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: eight twenty five in the morning that I was not

502
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: ever using well, and so I've I've started just using

503
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: my that time for lifting weights. I have resistance bands

504
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: and a kettlebell in my office and so I generally

505
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: do at least five to ten minutes of that. I

506
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: have a few work you know, lifts, I go through

507
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: a few moves, I go through and try and that's awesome.

508
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: So are you using a video or yeah, I've looked

509
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: at a few articles or things online of like kettlebell

510
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: moves or resistance band moves, things you can do Hotel

511
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: me workout, I guess is often what it's listed on

512
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: as or things like that. The thing that made the

513
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: biggest difference for me in strength is embracing either a

514
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: live person or a video telling me what to do. Like,

515
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I have no interest in creating my own workout. It's

516
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: like so boring. I can't. I don't even know how

517
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: people do that. I mean, I watch people at the gym,

518
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: and I know they get into it and maybe you

519
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: get to a certain level of proficiency where you feel

520
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: like you can craft your own workout. But I don't

521
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: feel like I ever need to get there. I want

522
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: someone to tell me what to do, which is why

523
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: I was loving the Beach Body and I still do.

524
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: I really love those workouts and now I'm enjoying some

525
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: some kind of the similar stuff but live. But yeah,

526
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: it's for me. It was all about like I needed

527
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: an instructor. Yeah, I'm only doing like five to ten

528
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: minutes though, I mean, so it's hard to I think

529
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: that'll make a difference. It's hard to get that bored

530
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: in five to ten minutes. And I probably managed to

531
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: do it three or four days a week because there

532
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: are some days where the routine doesn't happen right because

533
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm gone or whatever. But so far, so good. I

534
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: feel like it's a cue. It's a queue that I

535
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: can stick with, like I know that this is my

536
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: time to do it. Yeah, I don't like people telling

537
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: me what to do. Just that's true. You don't like

538
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: training planning. We're actually very opposite in that exercise regard.

539
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, like the the idea of a streak

540
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: seems like like I could never And I really like

541
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: being ordered around by someone it comes to exercise. I'm

542
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: the person who hated Jim Blass. I'm like, get me

543
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: out of here. I do not want anyone ever telling

544
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: me what form of exercise I need to do again

545
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: in my life. So it's so funny, dear, All right, Well,

546
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: do we have any other that our goals? Or is

547
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: that our goals? Those are our main ones. Oh, I

548
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: did achieve my blog monthly visitors. That was actually kind

549
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: of cool because there was an ad network I was

550
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: interested in switching to and to be honest, I'm not

551
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: sure if I actually got more visitors or I just

552
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: got a more accurate analytics app installed, because before I

553
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: was using my ad Networks one and I think it

554
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: might have been missing something. So anyway, I was just

555
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: very happy to find that I exceeded the number that

556
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: I needed to. And well, you've also been blogging more frequently,

557
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: and I think I have to come back more often.

558
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: And that's true. And I noticed, like the weekend that

559
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I shared stuff on Instagram Stories, like normally I have

560
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: this big drop on the weekend, and that weekend I didn't,

561
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: so I guess people must have clip clicked through from

562
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: my stories. It's like anything else. I mean, the more

563
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: time I put it into it, the more you do it,

564
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: then the more people come. But that's great that you

565
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: got yourself to a better AD. Yeah, that was cool.

566
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: That's really cool. So yeah, that's pretty much. That was

567
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Q one. I would consider it overwhelmingly pretty good quarter

568
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: considering how much was going on. And yeah, now we're

569
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: onto Q two, onto Q two, where I would say

570
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to have my backyard redone in Q two,

571
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: and I think that is not going to happen, given

572
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: that I haven't done any estimates or calling anyone or

573
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: thought about it at all, so oh, well, maybe that

574
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: will not happen in Q two. You can already see

575
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: that Q two will not be that well. My off

576
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: air suggestion to Laura is that she downgrade her her

577
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: item to contact someone and get proposals rather than actually

578
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: getting it done, because also that's more of a process

579
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: goal than like an outcome goal, which you have more

580
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: control over, and at least then at the very I

581
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: mean bonus if you actually have it done. But if

582
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: you've set things in motion, then you know you're set

583
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: for Q three. Yeah, exactly. And just one thing in

584
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: my defense is that my backyard is covered in snow

585
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: right now, so I feel like putting estimates on it

586
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: might be uncomfortable for all involved and inaccurate. I need

587
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: to be possible. They don't know under the snow. So

588
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: given that, yes, much of Q one has been well,

589
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: my point was like I wanted to get in motion

590
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: in Q one so it could happen in Q two

591
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: when it wasn't under snow. That makes sense. And I

592
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: also worry that calling once the snow is gone, that's

593
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: when everyone's going to call and then they won't want

594
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: to come, but well, somebody will come. Somebody wants to

595
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: do my backyard. Cause that is purposeful segue. That was

596
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: a purposeful segue into our Q and A. By the way,

597
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: by the time this airs, hopefully there won't be snow.

598
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: But I will recall that last year there still was

599
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: in April, so don't consider yourself off the hook at

600
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: this point. So I'll be the question here in Michigan

601
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: this winter, we have already had eight snow and cold

602
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: days with school cancelations. A cold day, oh yeah, because

603
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: it got down to morrow cold days last year. That's

604
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: so sad, okay, And it's only you know, midwinter when

605
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: this was written. And I would love to hear Laura

606
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: and Sarah talk about adjustments that are required when our

607
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: kids have unexpected days at home, and I would include

608
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: sick days in that to some degree as well. Now

609
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: I acknowledge this is not me talking. This is still

610
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: the questioner. There's the necessarily scheduled adjustments, of course, but

611
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: what I'd really like to hear you talk about is

612
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: the attitude adjustment that's required and how did do that well?

613
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I have no problem when the planned days are off.

614
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: I just know those are not going to be days

615
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: I get most focused work done. But when you're faced

616
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: with week after week of incomplete weeks of school and

617
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: everybody's out of routine, is it just survival or are

618
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: their mindsets and practical strategies to help you through these times.

619
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Would love to hear you too talk about this. I'm

620
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: guessing you have a little more experience with it, Laura

621
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: than Sarah. Well, our kids both get sick, though, so

622
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: it's not nice. So our kids both get sick, and

623
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: we had more than a week off for a hurricane

624
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, so you know, we have

625
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: our own challenges. Yeah, ours is more winter focused generally

626
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: because of this, you know. So there's some ways you

627
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: can obviously plan your life to try to deal with it,

628
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: and it is. I agree, it's hard to have a

629
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: good attitude about it. One day after unplanned day stacks

630
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: up one reason we switched to nanny care from daycare

631
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: back when Jasper was little. We you know, there were

632
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: all these sick days, the snow days and stuff of

633
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: the daycare, and I wound up covering the vast majority

634
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: of it. I mean I remember our first winter, there

635
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: were some you know arguments. At one point, I got

636
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: like my husband to like work at home for two

637
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: days so I could go work in a bookstore. And

638
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: it was just like this huge thing because I mean,

639
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: I guess the adjustments to parenthood hid in his mind, Well,

640
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: you're already working at home, whereas I have to go

641
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to my office, and so therefore it's a bigger deal

642
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: for me to take the day off. And there were

643
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: many fights about this that well, clearly this thing, you

644
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: clearly feel like your career is more important than mine

645
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: if that's the way you're doing it, and so feeding

646
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: into all sorts of fun with that. But one thing

647
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: we did wind up doing then is hiring a nanny.

648
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: And our first nanny in New York actually lived four

649
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: blocks away, so there was like almost no situation where

650
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: she couldn't make it to work. I mean, obviously, you know,

651
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: if we had like ten feet of snow, it was

652
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: a bit, but if you know, six inches, like you

653
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: can still walk in your boots to the apartment. So

654
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: it was there was very limited days then that I

655
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have coverage, and that helped a lot, like it

656
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: made me feel like I could plan my life better.

657
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: And actually, you know, get stuff done, which which was huge,

658
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: So I would certainly look into stuff like that. In fact,

659
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: our current nanny is just very you know, gung ho,

660
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: which I so appreciate. She'll actually look at the weather

661
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: forecast and if it looks like we're gonna get a

662
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: foot of snow, she'll volunteer to stay overnight the day before.

663
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and it makes sense because if the weather

664
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Speaker 1: is in that kind of questionable zone and it's very

665
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: stressful for everyone to figure out, you know, if they're

666
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: going to make it back and forth. So in her standpoint,

667
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: it's probably like, you know what, I won't miss a

668
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: day of work. I don't have to worry about the drive,

669
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: probably have some agreement where after some point she can

670
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: go to her room and be left alone. So I

671
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: mean I'll pay overtime too, Yeah, and there you go.

672
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: So it's like an opportunity. It's an opportunity. So that's

673
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: also been great and cut down on that. But yeah,

674
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: the attitude a part about it. I don't know. I

675
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: wish I had a good answer for that, because I

676
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: can't say that I have entirely ever reached a happy

677
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: place about it. And I know I didn't in those

678
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: first winters, and I feel like we did change the

679
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: things structurally that would at least cut down on the

680
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: issues related to it. I would try also to look

681
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and see if there were days coming up with weather

682
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: and get as much ahead of time as possible. So,

683
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: for instance, say it looks like we're going to get

684
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: a snowstorm this week. Therefore Sunday is my workday, So

685
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: starting at like eleven thirty in the morning, my husband

686
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: would be on with the kids for six seven hours

687
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: and I would work and I would get a whole

688
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: work day in. And then if I lost Wednesday and

689
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: Thursday to snow, at least I had done a whole

690
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: work day before. The problem, of course, is that you

691
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: can't call anyone on Sunday, you can't set up a

692
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: meeting on Sunday, so it only works for certain kinds

693
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: of work. And I think that's the part that is

694
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: more challenging, is if you have a lot of work

695
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: that involves meeting other people. Obviously you can convert stuff

696
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: to calls, and many of them are probably dealing with

697
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's probably not just you. If there's

698
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: enough snow that it's difficult for people to get around.

699
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: You're not going to be the only person calling in,

700
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: so you can be okay with that and put the

701
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: kids in front of the TV or in front of

702
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: an iPad or something and feel zero guilt about it.

703
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever like leave you know, three days, two

704
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: days in January and two days in February like blank,

705
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: to be like this is where all the you know,

706
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: crap is gonna get moved that has to get moved.

707
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: I try to do this, Yeah, actually, and I do

708
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: it even more frequently. I as much as possible, will

709
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: attempt not to schedule stuff on Fridays. And that's because

710
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: then I can put stuff on front your buffer. Yeah

711
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: it's a buffer, so then I'm not falling behind. So

712
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: if you could work that out too, then anything that

713
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: got canceled Wednesday Thursday could possibly be rescheduled to Friday,

714
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: and then if you lost Friday as the day, then

715
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: it would be okay. Because I think the buffer makes

716
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: a huge difference for me because you know, before I

717
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: had a buffer, if a kid got sick, it was

718
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: like it felt like a catastrophe because if I had

719
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: to cancel my clinic, then where was I gonna put

720
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: all those patients? And there literally wouldn't have been any

721
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: day and then it's like, okay, well then I'm going

722
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: to be like overbooking myself days and days and my

723
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: entire next week. It's gonna be miserable versus, oh, well

724
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: I can't work today, but therefore this day off is

725
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: going to turn into a work day. I'm just having

726
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: my day off now. Is that ideal? No? But it's

727
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: less out as traffic, so I think that. But there's

728
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: very few like sick days that you would have to

729
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: be home then, right, I mean you, oh for me, yeah,

730
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: very few. I'm talking more about like weather emergency or

731
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: something like if I had to take a kid to

732
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: the hospital, or that doesn't happen very frequent. Yeah. Logistics

733
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: of the other thing again, we have we have a

734
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: really reliable nanny who you know, she herself almost never

735
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: thankfully gets sick. I should knock on something, and I

736
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, you know, if my kids have a cold

737
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: or a fever, she's fine with them. So that doesn't

738
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: tend to impact my work so much. And we obviously

739
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: have less of the weather stuff. But I will also

740
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: say that I don't have a good attitude about things

741
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: that change last minute either not in my favor, Like,

742
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: so just giving you some support there, because it kind

743
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: of sucks if you have something planned and you're the

744
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: kind of person that plans a lot or maybe like

745
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: put a lot of work into making sure the logistics

746
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: were right and then something like a sickness comes along

747
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: and just kind of slashes everything. That sucks. It's hard

748
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: ye have a magic And going back to you know,

749
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: the arguments I was having early in my parenting journey,

750
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: I will say that this is both parents' responsibility. If

751
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: you are parenting with someone, it is not fair to

752
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: have this one hundred percent on one parent, even if

753
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: there is you know, more flexibility, at least in theory,

754
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: because flexibility is never infinite. And so you know, I said,

755
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: my husband wound up having all the kids on a

756
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of weekends in order to do that, and I

757
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: still wouldn't think that's ideal. But you know, if you're

758
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: both in an office, maybe you can sort of have

759
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: an agreement of like which parent is on call for

760
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: the stuff on any given week, and then so you

761
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: know there are weeks that you're not the parent on call,

762
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: and then you can maybe put more stuff into those

763
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: weeks understanding that the weeks that you are on call

764
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: are the ones that might be interrupted. Yeah. I mean,

765
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that anybody needs to strive for some

766
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: arbitrary fifty to fifty, you know, in either direction. I

767
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: maybe the male partner is going to shoulder more than

768
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. I think it's whatever works for everyone.

769
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: But I just think it needs to be thought out

770
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: and should not be disproportionately on one side versus the other. Yeah.

771
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's go to Love of the Week. Oh,

772
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: I have to think about this. I had TVD because

773
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: apparently I was well, I will put a shout out.

774
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: So we did talk about goals. So I'm gonna name

775
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: my two favorite books that I have read so far.

776
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: One of them I already mentioned, so actually we'll skip

777
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: that one. But I just finished Delia Owens Where the

778
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Crawdads Sing, and it's been very popular this year. I know,

779
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: it's like kind of everywhere, but that's probably because it's

780
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: like a really good vere. But it is one of

781
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: those propulsive reads. The characters are interesting, they're multi dimensional,

782
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: the setting is just gorgeous, and I happened to be

783
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: reading it when I was in Nashville, so a little

784
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: bit southern, and the book is very southern. I think

785
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: at one point I was like, I need biscuits because

786
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: they just had biscuits and I was actually in a

787
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: place to get them. So that was really cool. So yeah,

788
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: since I'm back into reading, that is my my love.

789
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'd like that. I'll have to check.

790
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: I would say that's my favorite Q one read this

791
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: far super accessible. I think, I don't know, like, would

792
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: you like I'm trying to think of I mean a

793
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: little ann patch it okay, maybe yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah, yeah,

794
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: I would say if I I just finished reading Jane

795
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Jacob's Great Death in Life of Great American Cities. It

796
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: was it was interesting. I you know, it was a

797
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: little hard to get in first and not it's kind

798
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: of slow moving at times, but you look at city

799
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: sidewalks in different ways and I really enjoyed kind of that.

800
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Any book that can recast how you are looking at

801
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: something that fundamentally what makes a street safe is having

802
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: eyes on the street, which means having people there and

803
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: people at different times of day, and a lot of

804
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: streets there's only people on them, you know, at like

805
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: eight thirty when they're going to work and like the

806
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: lunch rush and after work. If it's a you know,

807
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: commercial street or in the residential there's only certain times

808
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: they're on it too, if people are gone all day,

809
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: and you can't have that and have a good street.

810
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: So you have to have multiple uses. It's of different

811
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: buildings on a street that different people will be going

812
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: to at different times, and then you have a lively

813
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: safe street. So it was kind of fun to think

814
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: about and what mix of commercial and residential and all

815
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: that makes for a good city block. So that is

816
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: very interesting. Yeah. The worst is when you're at a

817
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: conference and you feel like you're in this weird area

818
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: where where everything completely shuts down on weekends because you're

819
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: sort of in the business district, but you're there for

820
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: conference that's on the weekend, and yeah, it's like an

821
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: eerie it doesn't work. Yeah, exactly, think they're actually going

822
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: on here clothes, it's Saturday at noon. Yeah, that's a

823
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: fascinating topic. Yeah cool, So I enjoyed that and that

824
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: could be my love of the week. All right, Well

825
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: this has been best of both worlds. This has been

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Speaker 1: episode eighty seven where we're talking about our Q one,

827
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: which could be quarter or quintile, So we'll be back

828
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Speaker 1: next week with more on making work and life fit together.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the

830
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram,

831
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: and you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please

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Speaker 1: join us next time for more on making work and

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Speaker 1: life work together.