1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: This. He's hanging with the talking Cowboys brains. They block 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: it up beautifully, fade right side of the end. Jason 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Witten over the shoulder. That's a goat catch. I think 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: that was a one hander, Brad touchdown. Jason Witton the goat. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Whoa yo yo. That is not just a memory lane anymore. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: That's not a thing of the past, guys, It's a 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: thing of the future and of now. Welcome to the 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Emergency Podcast. Lindsay Draper and Nick Eatman Derek Eagleton reacting 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: to Jason Witton coming out of retirement. I have to 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: admit my first question was as a coach or as 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: a player. Guys. You guys were upstairs, I was downstairs. 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: What was your reaction? April fools? First thought was what 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: month is this? Wait a second, and were getting punked here? 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Like what? And then I really, you know, I was like, Wow, 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I like it. I like the movie. I mean, I 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: like it. I mean because and this is a good 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: young football team that made the playoffs and is going 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: to enter the season with some issues at tight end. 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: And you know what, and he and I think that, 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: like he said in his statement, you know, he's still 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: the fire, still burning there, and you know, he's got 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: to get those secrets. They're still in the dirt. Let's 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: go get them. So, you know, I didn't think it 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: was completely shocking. I mean, I was obviously as everybody 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: as you're shocked at the initial news of it. But 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: then when I thought about it, I was like, you know, 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: and I'll take you back to the playoffs in January. 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: I was talking to Taylor one day and we were 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: just kind of talking about the team, and one thing 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned to her was, I wonder right now, And 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: this was in January, like first round of playoffs. I said, 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: I wonder right now if Jason Witten is having any 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: second thoughts is he looking at this team? Because it's 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: my personal opinion. I don't know, He's never said this 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to me or anybody I've heard of. My belief is 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: that part of the reason that he walked away is 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: because he didn't necessarily see that this was a team 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: that was right there on the custom of a championship. 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: And it made me think, is he rethinking that? Thinking? Man, 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: what I've seen from this team over the last eight 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, when they went from three and 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: five to where they are now, what I'm seeing is 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: that this team is really good. This team has some 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: great potential, and I could actually feel a void for them, 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: that maybe the void that could push him over the top. 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: I wonder if he was having that kind of conversation 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: with himself back in January, and so it made me 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: when I heard this news. It made me think maybe 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: he was having that conversation with himself, and maybe he 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: looked at it now like I see this team as 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: a rising team. If I jump back in, I can 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: feel a void. And by the way, maybe that's enough 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: for me to be able to get that at ever 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: elusive ring or get get deep in the playoffs. He 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: has not been able to do that ironing with that 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: if that is true, and I don't know why it 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. Of all that stuff that you just said, 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: there's so much ironing because I have sat there with 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Witton on two occasions where he has been really visibly 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: upset about situations sort of like that. One of them 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: was Cole Beasley who decided to quit raining camp and 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: go back home because this wasn't for him. But then 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: he came back and after a weekend and he was like, 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: you know what I changed in my mind. I'm sorry. 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I had a little relapse there, and Jason Witten wasn't 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: about it. He was like, no, I'm not No, you 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: can't just quit on us and come back. And so 68 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: he had to apologize to Witten. And there was a 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: tight end way back in the day, Scott sicko same thing. 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Didn't think he wanted to play, then he kind of did, 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and Witten play. If you don't think you want to play, 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: then you're out. And so it's kind of weird that 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: it comes back around like that. If that's what happened, 74 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: there's more to it. I mean, there's obviously more to 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: it there. I mean a lot of people have already 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: asked me and he hasn't gone around too too quickly, 77 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and they're like, was he gonna get fired by the ESPN? 78 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Was did he get And I don't think that's the case, 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: because I don't think you decided to go play football 80 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: if your sixteenth year, if you needed a job. He 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't need. You know, he still had a job. It's 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: not like he took that, you know. I just think 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: that he still wanted to play. I think you're it's 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: more what you were saying about still wanting to play football. 85 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully we are going to hear from our friends up 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: at the combine. Ran brought us Rob Phillips, David Hellman. 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: They are scrambling now like that. Yeah, they're like they 88 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: are on the hunt right now, looking to see if 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: there is a Jones or a Garrett there. But we 90 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: went here from you, guys. Garrett eighty eight eight by 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: by two two ninety seven is the number. But the 92 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: phone lines will always be freed up for our pals 93 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Uh, realistic expectations, guys. I 94 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: want to just get right into it and not even 95 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: beat around the bush because I've I've seen a lot 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: of tweets come out and say, well, you know, tight 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: ends no longer a priority in the draft, and I personally, 98 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, disagree with that because I think sitting a 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: year off thirty seven years old, Um, you gotta be 100 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: realistic with yourself about his contributions. He is one of 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: the greatest Cowboys of all time. But we got to 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: be real here. I agree with you. I just don't 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: think you have to go get a tight end if 104 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: he happens and you're in the third, fourth round and 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: you know this guy's rated high. Then, yeah, you look 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: at you look at Witten in his age and all that, 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: but you do think that you know, Schultz and jar 108 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: two young players that you know their time is coming 109 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: as well. Now we've seen in the past what young 110 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: tight ends behind Whitten don't always work. I think maybe 111 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: things are going to change some there. And another thing 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: at his press at his press conference for the Jason 113 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: Witten College Player of the Year, he was long ago, 114 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: eight weeks ago up here asked about he was asked 115 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore and he kind of, you know, and 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about how he thinks Kellen's going 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: to really help Dak and do things now that Dak 118 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is really able to do. Kind of made it sound 119 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: like Lenahan wasn't doing that. It just hasn't really high 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: praise for Kellen Moore. And maybe that's part of it too. 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Maybe this offense is actually something he thinks is a 122 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: little bit more suited for him. Yeah. I know someone 123 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: that talked him off the record, and he was very 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: very he had a lot of praise for Kellen Moore 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: and what he thought Kellen Moore could do with this offense. Again, 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: maybe that has something to do with this decision that 127 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: And that's not a knock necessarily on Lenahan as much. 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: It is just I think he as a belief that 129 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has the ability to really take this offense 130 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: to another level and he can see himself maybe in 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: that role and that that may be something that excites 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: him a little bit. And that coupled with Nick, I 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: want to rewind to something you said earlier to pull 134 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: him back. I mean, we could talk a full podcast 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: alone on what it's going to take to be in shape, 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: to get ready, to get your body right. But what 137 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: you said that this team actually could be a contender 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: that could lure him back, coupled with I mean, Jason 139 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Witton's been around Kellen Moore. This is a couple of 140 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: things we don't know, you know that that he might 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: bring to the table. So that kind of makes this 142 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Kitten don't forget Kitt Kitna have been teammates, like he 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: knows these guys. Well, I'm just going to read the 144 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: quote if we didn't already have seen it already, But 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: the quote says exactly that, and I'm I'm actually surprised 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: a little bit about it that he that he says 147 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the fire and side of me to compete and play 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: this game is just burning too strong. This team has 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: a great group of rising young stars, and I want 150 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: to help them make a run at a championship. This 151 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: was completely my decision. I'm very comfortable with it. I'm 152 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to getting back in the dirt, but just 153 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: but just admitting that, Yeah, this team has a chance 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: to win and I want to be a part of it. Oh, 155 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad. You know he went out and 156 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: said that, because that's kind of what you were alluding 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to as well. I don't think it had anything really 158 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: to do with what was going on in Monday night football. 159 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to jump into the booth for 160 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: your first broadcasting gig and be the He had some moments. 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: He wasn't polished. He's not Romo. They did him no 162 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: favorite He's not Romo. They did him no favors. I 163 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: think and all of us can probably recognize this because 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: we work in media. But it is a difficult thing. 165 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: As we're about to do this in just a moment, 166 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: but it is a difficult thing to do a broadcast 167 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: with someone that you cannot see. Yeah, and for his 168 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: first time in the booth, first time doing media. Really 169 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: they asked him to do a game where one of 170 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the people that was a part of their threesome was 171 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: actually on the field and they could not see him 172 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to be able to take nonverbal cues of when you're 173 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: gonna talk, when you want to talk, when you want 174 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: to stop, how you want to enhance something that they're saying, 175 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: or they want to enhance something that you're saying. Like 176 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: they did him no favors trying these things with a 177 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: relatively freshman group of guys working together in that capacity. 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think ESPN did him any favors. I 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: think that is a poor to me, that is a 180 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: poor reflection of what you could expect from when if 181 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: he decides to do that in the future. I think 182 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: that was a learning year, and they put him on 183 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the big stage and gave him a lot of unexpected things. 184 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: It's a very experimental group right in that kind of environment. 185 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: I just think ultimately, I think if he wants to 186 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: go back into that, I think another network or ESPN 187 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: will do it in a much more control type of 188 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: environment to let him kind of get more used to it, 189 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: rather than just storing him out there. I don't think 190 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: they did. The next headset or earpiece he will put 191 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: in will be as a coach. Anyways, I hear we 192 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: have Brian broad Us on the line from ins BB. 193 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Just talk to us, man. What do you got, Well, 194 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: we kind of located were the head coaches. Yeah, we 195 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: we actually got to visit Dave and I real quickly 196 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: grabbed Kellen Moore and we're over here at the Marriott 197 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: across the street from the Jaw Marriott, So wherever h 198 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: at the Marriott and we're staking out trying to get 199 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: to Jason Garrett to give us a little idea. This 200 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: was something that obviously just didn't happen today, I don't think, so, 201 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, we had opportunities with kind of visit with people. 202 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're over here kind of hanging out, waiting 203 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get something from a coach Garrett about about 204 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: the situation. But kind of one of those traditional things 205 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: that happens to us at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We 206 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: were all having lunch when this all went down, So 207 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: how it goes the street continues for us, Brian. The 208 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: other than that, other than maybe you know the salad 209 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: that you were eating got cut into that a little bit. 210 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: But you love this, don't you. You love going to 211 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: steak out and try to find them. Yeah, no, this 212 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun actually, because you know, we 213 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I've got all these connections with the teams, as we 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: all do. So I was kind of kind of like 215 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: it was like playing the game of Clue. You know, 216 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I was, I was in the laboratory and I was looking, 217 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: and then I had to go to the ballroom and 218 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: then I had to go you know, I guess I'm 219 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: too old for the game of Clue. But yeah, yeah, yeah, candlestick. Yeah, 220 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: you know this is plumb all that stuff, you know, 221 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Professor Plumb. There are you gonna hit Dave with the candlestick? 222 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I should, but but no, we're you know, it's yeah, 223 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: we eliminated the stadium, We eliminated the team hotel, we 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: eliminated you know, we and finally, like I say, running 225 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: into Kellen Moore, Kellen said, hey, I've got to I've 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: got to go meet with coach. So we've we've got 227 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: him cornered up here. But yeah, this is you know, 228 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: this is something that you know, we uh, we're kind 229 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: of all here and you know, we were trying to 230 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: grab Steven Jones. When we've learned Stephen Jones is not here, 231 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: he's back in Dallas, will be back here tonight with 232 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: with Jerry, So again, hopefully we can have the opportunity. 233 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, this was one of those things that you know, 234 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I know that was not being talked about here. Uh. 235 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, even the people that I know at ESPN 236 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I think that they were a 237 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: little bit surprised about this all went down. And so, uh, 238 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, uh, you know, we'll see if 239 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: we can kind of get to get to the bottom 240 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: of some of these things. But you know, for the Cowboys, 241 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: they like to talk about how now the youngest team, 242 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: the youngest team, the youngest team. Well, you know, they've 243 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: added some age to this team now. And to be 244 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: quite honest with you, I'm really am surprised that they 245 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: didn't make this move. Really, uh what do you think 246 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: it does for the chemistry? And it really and kind 247 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: of expand on that, why why are you kind of 248 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: surprised by that? I'm surprised because you know, it's to me, 249 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, well, let's be honest, though, you know, 250 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: we've kind of during the season that was talking about 251 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: him coming back, and Oben Rodgers from one U five 252 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: three was you know, went out on that limb and 253 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, and took a lot of criticism for it. 254 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: And I know everybody we've had contacts with Witten and 255 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but you know, we kind of heard 256 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the whispers that maybe things weren't going as well as 257 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: they need to be. And I heard you guys before 258 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: I came on talking about, you know, it was a 259 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: difficult situation, and you know, I totally agree on that, 260 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, Witten is, you know, one 261 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: of these guys. I felt like though when he hung 262 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: it up, you know, he was going to hang it up. 263 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like that there was going to be 264 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: any you know going back. You know, and usually players 265 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: know when they need to move on. And you know, 266 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: it's very surprising that, you know that he took the 267 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: year off and then now is coming back. And so 268 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think when you look at this draft, uh, 269 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that. You know, we pack 270 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: on the Draft show last night, we were talking about, Okay, 271 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: how do you find a way to trade back into 272 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the first round and grab one of these first round 273 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: tight ends? Would you would you consider trading for one 274 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: of these first round tight ends. So you know, I 275 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: think this team was making plans to to go that direction. 276 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: So again, it's a little surprising to me that they would, 277 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: you know what, they would entertain this. Uh you know, now, 278 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: well they entertained it, I guess earlier or later in 279 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: the year. But now we've full blown got it, you know, 280 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: full circle here, so that you know, that's a it's 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: a team that you know, it felt like I's always 282 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: tried to get you know, get younger and and uh, 283 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, add talent that way. Just a little bit 284 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: surprising to me they went this route. Well, Brian, knowing 285 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: that it's a it's a guy that's an aging player. 286 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Sure do you think that in your opinion, do you 287 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: think it's still the wise and prudent thing for the 288 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys to do to still consider tight end as a 289 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: priority during this draft? Well, yeah, I think you know, 290 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: you have to look at it, especially if it's a 291 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: one year deal. But you know, maybe this is the 292 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: bridge that they needed to get, you know, another year 293 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: with Schultz and another year with Jarwin. You know, usually 294 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: you could take veteran players. I mean, we were thinking 295 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: about you know, Sean Lee. With Sean Lee the kind 296 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: of the bridge to get the other guys ready, you know, 297 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: and these young kids just came in and played from 298 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: the word go, and you know, really, Sean Lee is 299 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: there was kind of an afterthought there for a while. 300 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just feel like though it's I think, 301 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: if it's any other player than Jason Witten, and maybe 302 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: this doesn't work this way, but you know again, I 303 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: I just I thought that they were going to say, okay, 304 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: let's just go with the young tight ends. You know, 305 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: let's draft a young tight end and then you know 306 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: that way you have you know, Jarwin young tight end, Shultz, 307 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, and then kind of go that round because 308 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: this again, this this this draft one of the really 309 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, we could have two three tight ends taken 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: in the first round, you know, with the with depending 311 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: on how this thing falls. So uh and then the 312 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: depth of the position is actually pretty good. Now does 313 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: that preclude them from taking Derek the question you ask? 314 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, I would hope not considering this is just 315 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: a one year deal. Okay, you when you're talking about 316 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the tight ends, and Brian knows this better than anyone, 317 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: you talking about tight ends three projected guys in the 318 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: first round. You know that that's a position that I 319 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: could that sometimes those guys could slide, you know. Uh 320 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: and and you know they're maybe sitting there at maybe 321 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: not fifty nine, but sitting there in the fifties or 322 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: with a chance to trade up and go man, yeah, yeah, 323 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that's where you know, you got the extra compensatory four 324 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: and so okay, how do you take you know, fifty 325 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: eight at four and moved, you know, get up. You know, 326 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about can you get into the forties 327 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: to get one of these guys? And you know that's 328 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: probably what you're gonna have to do now. You know, 329 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: I would guys, I would hope that this wouldn't take 330 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: them out of the tight end market. You know, we 331 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: talk about you know it's hard to say, not hard 332 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: to say, but it's difficult to say. You know, would 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Jason Witten be a progress stopper? You know, would he 334 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: be you know, would he prevent you from getting a 335 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: tight end? And you would hope not, You really really 336 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: would hope not. But you know, we need to see 337 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: where Jason Witten's role is going to be with this team. 338 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's excited about coming back. You know, Nick, 339 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: you just read the quote, but you know where is okay? 340 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Is Jason Witton going to play eighty percent of the snaps? Again? 341 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: Is he gonna play seventy five percent of the snaps? 342 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: You know what number of the snaps is he going 343 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to play? And then you know that's where I think 344 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: you kind of have to look at things and say, Okay, 345 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: is the level of how many snaps are you going 346 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: to play? You know, really really worth it for this team? Brian, 347 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: will you call us back if you track anybody down? Yeah, 348 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: we will. We're hanging out. It's it's so much fun 349 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: just to hang out and look at elevators, you know, 350 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: exciting time. So yeah, but yeah, absolutely, we will check 351 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: back in which you guys appreciate you having me on. 352 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: All right, thanks, I appreciate it. All right, guys, we're 353 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: going to take a quick break and regroup, but we 354 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: will be back. The number again is eight eight eight 355 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: by five two two nine seven. Selor has been helping 356 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys fans see better since nineteen seventy two, so they 357 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: don't miss a moment on the field. 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That's the best one. 411 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: You can just sit back and hear about that. Watch 412 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: all right. We decided to take callers today and we 413 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: have Scott in Jersey on the line. What is up, Scott? 414 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: What's your reaction? Hey? How you doing? Hey? Hey? What's 415 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: going on? Talking Cowboys break? How are you doing? Are 416 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: you working good today? I'm actually just I'm just out 417 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: of work. Walking across town. I heard the great news. 418 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: I immediately turned to radio on. I knew there would 419 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: be some kind of live broadcast from here. You people, 420 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: you know what I want to know. I mean, I 421 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: don't know right off about why we carry so many 422 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: tight ends. So Jason Witten, which is great news, comes 423 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: back and he is a full time starter. I think 424 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: we've opened up a couple of spots on the roster. 425 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: We don't need that many tight ends. Obviously, keep Schultz, 426 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: you're not looking in the draft. I don't feel you 427 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: need one when's not coming back for one year. And 428 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: I think Witten back to three years, two solid years, 429 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: so that opens up spots on the roster area. Have 430 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: you talked to Witten's body? Um, I think that sounds 431 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: I think you know, I think it sounds sounds great. 432 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: It sounds great. But you know, as as we all know, 433 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: sometimes our bodies don't are exactly you know, a line, 434 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: the line with with what you your mindset is, and 435 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know if you have to do. 436 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to draft to tight end. But I 437 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: think if if if one, like I said, if one 438 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: falls to you, that's fine. Um, I don't think no, 439 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: no start. I do think he starts I think he starts, 440 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: but you also have two young tight ends that that 441 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: you want to develop as well. So tight end, to me, 442 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: is not a huge need because you have a starter 443 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: and you have two good young backups or solid young backups. 444 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't think Rico's gonna be in the mix anymore 445 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: because I think that experiment is over and I don't 446 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: think Swam returns in free agency. So I agree with you. 447 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: I do think a spot opens up, but mainly a 448 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: spot opens up because because you were holding on to 449 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: Rico as this experiment guy to see what he can do, 450 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: and I just don't think it's gonna work out here. 451 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: I do think he'll sign with another team, yeaheah, Well 452 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: somebody be a full wouldn't to sign that guy. He's good, Well, 453 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: we don't have room on the roster's out problem. He's 454 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: not good for this offense, and I don't know if 455 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: that's a good thing or not. I just don't think 456 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: he's a good fit. He's gonna go. Think about this, 457 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates would have never survived in Dallas for fifteen 458 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: years if he had to block as much as Witten. 459 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: That's not his style. But there are offenses that will 460 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: have Rico, you know, maybe a Kansas City or somebody 461 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: that has a little bit more wide open style, and 462 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: I bet you he goes there and he does well. 463 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: I just don't think it would have worked here this 464 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: type of offense. Yeah, thanks, you think we get traded 465 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: for a number our first round picks, but we could 466 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: jump back into first round. Bye bye, Scott. It was 467 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: a great chat with you first round. But you know, 468 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think that I thought his called his call 469 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: actually did though, dovetailed nicely into something we were talking 470 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: about in the break. When you start talking about what 471 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Whitten's role is going to be, whether he's a starter 472 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: or whether he's not. One of the points that I 473 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: was making to you guys was I think that for 474 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: for Witten, if you look at how he has been 475 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: as a as a starting tight end for this team 476 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: and how that's what that's meant for other tight ends 477 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: that they've brought in over the years. Typically he's not 478 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: the one that's necessarily bringing those guys along and making 479 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: it better for them to ultimately take his job like 480 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: he is not coming off the field like he is. 481 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: He wants to be on the field every play, and 482 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: I think in this move. I think Witten's going to 483 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: have to come back with a little bit of a 484 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: different role and a different attitude here, because you don't 485 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: want him to come back and be your starter every 486 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: down tight end because if he's doing that, you're not 487 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: developing Schultz, you're not developing Blake Jarwin. I think he 488 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: has to come back more in a player coach kind 489 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: of role, not and I say that really loosely. I'm 490 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: not saying he's a coach, but I'm saying he's gonna 491 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: have to come back. In my opinion, he should come 492 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: back in a role of I'm not only going to 493 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: add something for you at the tight end position, I'm 494 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: also going to be helping bring these young guys along 495 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: because I'm not going to be here long term. I'm 496 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: here for a short period of time. Also in the 497 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: also in the break, Nick brought up, you know, red 498 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: zone troubles were a problem this year. I wonder if 499 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: that was discussed up front. Hey, you you know, maybe 500 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: not gonna start every play and everyone's gonna be behind you, 501 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: but we do how they need here and you can 502 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: feel that. Yeah, And I think that was a big problem. 503 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: I do think that that Witten's absence hurt the team 504 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: in the red zone. I think I was reading a 505 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: tweet that somebody had said, you know, this is this 506 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: is good. But I don't ever remember missing him last year. 507 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: But I think Witten helped in the red zone and 508 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: ways even when he didn't have the ball. You need 509 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: a threat back there. You need a guy that can 510 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: get open, that can find a way to kind of 511 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: you know, post up and box out like a basketball 512 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: player and make a make a catch and and and 513 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I think just the threat of him um will open 514 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: up some things, or at least it did, you know 515 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: when he was here. He's gonna have to prove that 516 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: he is still a threat, but I think he'll do that. 517 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: And so I think his presence alone can help this 518 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: team in the red zone. And you know, if Frederick 519 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: comes back to be the Frederick that you you know, 520 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: hope that he can be, then then that certainly will 521 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: be a help in the red zone as well. All right, guys, 522 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: we have another caller on the line, Kyle from Philly. 523 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: I believe, am I right? Kyle? Yes? Indeed, how's it 524 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: going great? What are your thoughts? Well, I'm excited to 525 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: have Witting with the mitten's back. Um, I think he'll 526 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: definitely play a good role you know, for you know 527 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: that like how brought us was saying that, you know, 528 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: that good bridge you know for these young young tight ends. Um. 529 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: I still I still would love to get a free 530 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: agent tight end, somebody a little younger, if not, you know, 531 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: if we don't draft one. Um, but I definitely think 532 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: our our premium pick should be like headed towards like 533 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: the D line and defensive end. Um. And yeah, I 534 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: mean I just you know, I mean I am pretty excited. 535 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, it'll definitely help us on you know those 536 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: third down uh situations and stuff like that. But I 537 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: would love to get a younger athletic tight end. Um 538 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: just because it seems like he slowed down a little bit, 539 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, his final year, um, even though he was 540 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: still productive. Uh, you know, but just to have that 541 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: young athletic tight end, you know, that's that's pretty good 542 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: to have. I mean, I know we have you know, 543 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: we got jar Win and you know those guys, but um, 544 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, just somebody, you know, just maybe a younger 545 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: veteran as well. You know, I really you know, the 546 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: way I think we should go. But you know, I 547 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: mean I am excited. Awesome, Thanks Kyle. I want to 548 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: ask you guys something. Um gosh, my mind is all 549 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: over the place getting text from Dave Hellman. Dave, call 550 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: us when you have something. Please, I know you're up 551 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: there scouting. Otherwise, stop bothering us, Stop distracting David. Okay. 552 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: My question just reflecting and reading some of these tweets, 553 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: not only about Jason Witton, but about Randy Gregory when 554 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the draft. In my opinion, I don't 555 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: think a roster move should change a draft need all 556 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Oh, Randy's suspended. We should be looking 557 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: at this. Oh, Jason Witton's back, so we don't need 558 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: to worry about this. I mean that this your draft. 559 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean this is a long time. This isn't a 560 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: one year filler type of discussion. So really, how much 561 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: is it going to change? Well, I think that there's 562 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: different ways to look at it. I think it kind 563 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: of does change a little bit. It just changes your 564 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: sense of urgency a little bit. It doesn't necessarily change 565 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: the need because if you've got a guy that can, 566 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: that can you screams off the edge and he can 567 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback he's needed. It doesn't matter if 568 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: you're sitting there with von Miller and d law I mean, 569 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I think you would still take him. But uh, and 570 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: those guys typically aren't there at number fifty eight. But 571 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: you never know. I just think that it's the combination 572 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: of Randy or don't know what's happening with him, the 573 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: combination of Taco hasn't done anything. And Dorin's armstrong. You know, 574 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: he's okay for the first year. So yeah, I mean, 575 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: who's gonna play there? And I think I think that 576 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: that need it changes a lot because he was a 577 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: young player. Gregory's a young pass rushing defensive end who 578 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: led was second on the team in sacks and pressures 579 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: last year. Now he's not here. But if the Cowboys 580 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: were like, we don't ever have any issues with Gregory, 581 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: he has totally turned the corner. He is fine. If 582 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: they ever had that in their minds and then they 583 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: all needed to be you know, let go right, that's 584 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: my point. They's better not have ever done that. I 585 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: honestly don't think personally, I don't think that anything about 586 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: that announcement should have changed plans for the Cowboys, because 587 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had gotten into a false sense of security, 588 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: because again, this is not and this is not about 589 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: as we've heard before, this is not just about as 590 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: dude can't stop smoking weed, like, there are other issues 591 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: at play here, and this, as the Cowboys have described it, 592 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: this is a long term, probably a lifelong battle for him, 593 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: not the battle of weed, but the battle of his 594 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: overall mental health. Right. And so if you don't allow 595 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: for the fact that he's going to have moments where 596 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: maybe things aren't what they should be, like he's gonna 597 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: have moments where maybe he relapse, he's gonna have moments 598 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: where maybe he doesn't do something that he should be 599 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: doing right, because this is a lifelong thing for him, 600 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: then then the Cowboys aren't really living by what they're saying, 601 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: even publicly. Right. So I don't think anything about that 602 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: announcement necessarily says to me that the Cowboys should change 603 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: their plans. If they were going to look for a 604 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: defensive end, then they should continue to look for a 605 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: defensive end. If they felt like we love what we 606 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: saw from Doran's Armstrong, and we love what we saw 607 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: from Taco, and we think Randy's going to be a 608 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: part of that, then I think they continue with that 609 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: same plan, and maybe if they feel like they're gonna 610 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: get to a point where they're gonna need a body, 611 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: then they bring in another body. But I think that 612 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: this doesn't change a lot, at least in my mind, 613 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't change a lot about what I was thinking 614 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: about the defensive end position. One more caller, guys, Mike 615 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: in Canada is on the line. Mike, what are your 616 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: thoughts today? Oh man, I'm so happy. Nice to talk 617 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: to you, Lindsay you do a great job on cover four. 618 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: Thank you the season this year. But I think we 619 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: made a step and uh, I think Witten is I'm 620 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: just so glad to have him back. I think he's 621 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: really really going to help us in the red zone. 622 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Nobody gets opened in the red zone in the end 623 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: zone better than he does. Yeah, I agree with you there, 624 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I just think it's gonna we're 625 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to see what he does as far as 626 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: his development with the younger guys, and you know, he 627 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: knows usn't really coming off the field before I do. 628 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I just think he's going to have a different mindset. 629 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I just believe it. You know how it is when 630 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: you're when you're supposed to run the meeting, but then 631 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: you you come in fifteen minutes late. It's just a 632 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: different mindset. You have to be different. I just don't 633 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: think you come in and that's a good point and 634 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: do everything the way the way you were supposed to do. 635 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean this, you left. I I love Witten, but 636 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: he he wanted to do something else. It turns out 637 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to leave. But when you come back, 638 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's different. And that also goes to the 639 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: leadership part of this. I loved I loved the way 640 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: that Zeke and Dak stepped up in that leadership vacuum 641 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: last year and became the leaders of this offense. I 642 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: think Witt needs to come in and he's got to 643 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: defer to those guys a little bit, which is different 644 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: because when he was here before, they deferred to him. 645 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I think he needs to defer to them a little 646 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: bit because they are now the leaders, and they are 647 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: the unquestioned leaders of that offense and this team. And I, oh, hey, 648 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: lie still there. Sorry, No, I was just listening to 649 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: your commentary there. But yeah, Nick, I agree with you. 650 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Coming back a great book. By the way, the Friday 651 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday I read it. Thank you. I appreciate that. 652 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. And getting back to Wit, Yeah, he's gonna 653 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: have to take a reduced role. I agree with that. 654 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that it probably to get them the best 655 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: use out of him, use them in the critical situations 656 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: where you need to convert on third down and in 657 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: the red zone, etc. And let the other guys develop. 658 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Mike. You know, you know who else 659 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: really stepped up in a leadership role last year? And 660 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: this could have been because of Frederick as well, but 661 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: I thought Zack Martin was a completely different guy, especially 662 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room, much more vocal. Wasn't leaning on 663 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: Zach to talk you know, I probably help. I mean, 664 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Frederick to talk to all the time, you know, 665 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: the help that they had different lockers. Now speaking of lockers, um, 666 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: you know they got an issue. Well, you know, it's 667 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: not like this has been We've been here for twenty years. 668 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: I mean it's just relatively new. But but Garrett likes 669 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: to have the leaders in the corners spot to the 670 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: locker room, and Wit and Ill had that spot for 671 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years and then Zach Martin replaced them. Um, 672 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: but I think this is the least of their issues 673 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: of figuring out you know what and somebody else was 674 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: thrown around on Twitter. He's gonna wear a different numbers, 675 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: wearing eighty two eighty two, that's the number he's gone. 676 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm sorry they even have to say that. Yeah, 677 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: because Michael Jordan's more forty five eighty two. He's gonna 678 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: be eighty two. It's gonna be eighty two, he's gonna 679 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: be It's open. All right, guys, we thank you for 680 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: tuning in. What is the go ahead? I was just 681 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna say real quick, in case people haven't been following Twitter, 682 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: it's on fire right now. Really interesting stuff from DeMarcus 683 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: square Martella spin it as well, like yeah, their tweets count. 684 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: What did Marcus say? DeMarcus, I haven't seen it's actually 685 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: a video, so I haven't seen it all. But people 686 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: are responding like, oh yeah, come on back. My assumption 687 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: is he's like, hey, maybe should we uh should we 688 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: kind of make this a defensive end thing too. That's 689 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: what Martella said, right. Martella is definitely said he let's 690 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: bring the gang back together. But it's fun, it's it's 691 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: part of Twitter. That's the thing I love about the 692 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of moments because everybody gets to chime in on 693 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: you know where that leads to. Because I've seen this 694 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: about one hundred times now. We already got a quarterback. 695 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: We're good, we got we got a quarterback. Okay, we 696 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: got a quarterback. Yes, I agree, don't argue with me. 697 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying we've been arguing about this. We got 698 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: in too, I mean, DeMarcus Lawns and I mean, but 699 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: you can use to say we just used to having 700 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: a conversation about another one that might not be around 701 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: or that's a great ender for me. Today. Draft show 702 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: is going on all week long. What about you guys? 703 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: When is the next podcast? Oh, we're back next week. Yeah, 704 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: everybody's in different places. Back next week. We will not 705 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: be back the week after that because that's green break, 706 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: but we'll be back next week. 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