Speaker 1: I don't work out. People think I work out, and
Speaker 1: it's a tricky thing because I don't. I'm not in
Speaker 1: the best shape. I'm thin, but you know, I do yoga,
Speaker 1: I walk on the beach. I will say that I've
Speaker 1: always been in some sort of relationship with fitness, and
Speaker 1: I do believe that working out it's like a relationship.
Speaker 1: It's like your relationship with food, which should be a
Speaker 1: healthy one. It shouldn't be obsessive. I was good if
Speaker 1: I didn't eat. I was bad if I ate. I,
Speaker 1: you know, ate a handful of chips, and then I
Speaker 1: have to eat French fries and cake and destroy myself
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be good tomorrow. You know. That was
Speaker 1: my whole book, Naturally Thin. It was about that mental torture,
Speaker 1: that inner lamb, screaming, that noise about food, and the
Speaker 1: same thing goes on with exercise. I see people running
Speaker 1: around like crazy, obsessed about working out, then eating their
Speaker 1: weight in everything that whole day, and then they have
Speaker 1: to work out again because they ate so much because
Speaker 1: they worked out that morning. You also have to figure
Speaker 1: out what's good for your personality type like I'm thin,
Speaker 1: but I want to get tight, so I don't need
Speaker 1: to be running around jumping up and down doing jumping
Speaker 1: jack's and dancing and doing the Grapevine when I need
Speaker 1: to sort of tighten and lift. So I did this
Speaker 1: free YouTube work out today. So I found my former
Speaker 1: yoga teacher online and there are free videos of her.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are joining these online things,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I have to subscribe to something. And
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm not going to spend or the
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a day or I don't know what it costs,
Speaker 1: but it's that then it'll make me feel like I
Speaker 1: have this pressure about it. So today I just went
Speaker 1: on YouTube and I and I feel like I'm stealing?
Speaker 1: Is that stealing? This guy Isaac that is my makeup
Speaker 1: artists X. His name is Isaac, and Christopher Buckle used
Speaker 1: to go out with him, So am I cheating on
Speaker 1: Christopher Buckle? I have to ask him if I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to work out with his ex boyfriend. This guy Isaac
Speaker 1: has this whole community apparently, and he donates to charity
Speaker 1: and he works out different rich people's houses and he
Speaker 1: shouts you out, which is why I don't want to
Speaker 1: go on and be part of the online thing because
Speaker 1: I don't want to be shouted out. Now I'm hacking
Speaker 1: into someone else's Instagram account to work out on Isaac's
Speaker 1: thing and not get shouted out. So there's a fifth
Speaker 1: team in a workout for free. So I made Paul
Speaker 1: do with me today and it was great. And it's
Speaker 1: also the Jaine Fond of workout, just so you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these current workouts are the Jain Fond
Speaker 1: of workouts. I'm thinking about taking another post It note
Speaker 1: doubt and reviving some iteration and modern version of the
Speaker 1: Jaine fond to work out, because that was always manageable
Speaker 1: and I could do it and it was like the
Speaker 1: Curves of workouts. It's not like JC Anderson where you
Speaker 1: get yourself into a pretzel, your Vaginian it becomes your
Speaker 1: asshole and somehow you're doing these weird, complicated, convoluted moves
Speaker 1: that you don't you just don't know how your body
Speaker 1: could you like a contortionist. You're in sirk to sola.
Speaker 1: That's a lot for me. It's overwhelming. I could do
Speaker 1: it once, cry and swept, but then I'm scared to
Speaker 1: go back. So Isaac's fift Sea minute thing was like
Speaker 1: a modern. I don't even know how modern it was.
Speaker 1: He's just cute and nice. He's got his dog there,
Speaker 1: and we did some fifty minutes and I felt like
Speaker 1: it worked, and it was her person who wants to
Speaker 1: get tone. So I feel like you could just google
Speaker 1: around and you could get a different private trainer every
Speaker 1: day for free, just by youtubing. Is that stealing? Hashtag?
Speaker 1: Is that stealing? I think that you should find what
Speaker 1: works for you because some people need that like sweat
Speaker 1: and that craziness and that manic spinning type thing, that running,
Speaker 1: that jumping, that dancing, that jumping jack, that mania. Because
Speaker 1: maybe you're calmer in your life than I am. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're more you know, said Terry, or maybe just more
Speaker 1: chill as a person. My friend Sarah is like really
Speaker 1: monotone and she's just chill, and so she needs that.
Speaker 1: Sarah here, you're very chill. Sarah works for me is
Speaker 1: also very chill. She doesn't get that flustered, so she
Speaker 1: likes big, major workouts. Two. So I think I've come
Speaker 1: to something here. I think that your personality type attracts
Speaker 1: a different type of exercise that works for you. I'd
Speaker 1: like to do a little side thing about bicker and yoga,
Speaker 1: because forget the fact that the I think it was
Speaker 1: Baron Baptiste that he was like he had like crotch
Speaker 1: hugging male pant d's and was sweating on top of
Speaker 1: other people and like adjusting people with his dick in
Speaker 1: their face. That's a separate conversation. But when you do
Speaker 1: things like bickram yoga or these other things, these places
Speaker 1: give you like five free classes in a row and
Speaker 1: then you are in the cult. Is just enough days
Speaker 1: to get you in the cult. And I'm not really
Speaker 1: a cult mentality, so I can break out. But I've
Speaker 1: seen people there be like I did a morning, I
Speaker 1: did a night, I did two and days. People get
Speaker 1: into this crazy cult like exercise mentality, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that's healthy. Like those people at the gym. I
Speaker 1: used to see these very very very very skinny, skinny,
Speaker 1: unhealthy looking women that would stay in the steam room
Speaker 1: for like an hour and a half, like you know,
Speaker 1: something's wrong. I did not take crystal meth this morning.
Speaker 1: If anyone's wondering, So what do you guys think about
Speaker 1: workouts and your workouts for your own body type and
Speaker 1: what you're attracted to? I feel like we could really
Speaker 1: hijack the system by just every day doing some other
Speaker 1: online free workout. So Dranda and I were talking about
Speaker 1: this guy that is the type of guy that like
Speaker 1: picks you up. You've been on a flight from London
Speaker 1: to come visit him, and he picks you up and
Speaker 1: wants to go on a fucking hike together, versus like
Speaker 1: going to get a glass of shardonnay and relax. So
Speaker 1: I was with polit a vacation and we ran We
Speaker 1: were in the Dominican Republic and we ran into someone
Speaker 1: that I know, who I'm friends with, who I like
Speaker 1: a lot, and we ran into her and her boyfriend
Speaker 1: and we said hi, and then You're like, oh god,
Speaker 1: are we now on vacation with them? And we like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You know how that goes,
Speaker 1: like we are, we really like them, but like that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we're on vacation together. So we showed up,
Speaker 1: We saw them high, we did some meals and it
Speaker 1: was totally fun, hung on the beach, dip in and out.
Speaker 1: I'm a dip in and out kind of girl in
Speaker 1: every way. But in the morning, I guess we were
Speaker 1: just walking to go get like coffee, or get some
Speaker 1: fruit for the room and we wake up early. Don't
Speaker 1: get it twisted, But we saw them and the like
Speaker 1: we just did a hake, smiling, all fucking happy and
Speaker 1: healthy and American, and I was like, I fucking hate you.
Speaker 1: We were just drinking coffee and I was just like,
Speaker 1: they're that couple and they're like, we booked a four
Speaker 1: hour time aside later and then we're gonn to go
Speaker 1: zip lining and we're gonna go do the paddleboarding through
Speaker 1: the jungle adventure. And I am not that person. I
Speaker 1: did have Paul do that like fifteen minute workout just
Speaker 1: so he wouldn't leave the room and then get caught
Speaker 1: into something else. And I wanted to sort of capture
Speaker 1: him and having be like sort of like a prisoner,
Speaker 1: you know, like shackle him to myself. So that's the
Speaker 1: only reason why I was, you know, working out with him.
Speaker 1: And once in a while, same thing. If I'll have
Speaker 1: a yoga person come where I'm doing yoga, but do
Speaker 1: you want to do with me? Just because I feel
Speaker 1: like it'll be good for his body. And I'm here,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's not competitive about exercise or anything,
Speaker 1: and he always says no anyway, But if he did,
Speaker 1: it would be nice because it's not like he's so
Speaker 1: into it. I don't like when someone gets super into
Speaker 1: something like now we're that couple that like every day
Speaker 1: we're doing this, and in fact we got into surfing it.
Speaker 1: It was not good for our relationship because it was
Speaker 1: like almost competitive. And then he went in it was
Speaker 1: so excited by it, and I almost got like taken
Speaker 1: by a way. But he was so excited by like
Speaker 1: being Sean Penn infest times a Ridgemond high that like
Speaker 1: I was drowning, and I was like, I'm high, and
Speaker 1: he's supposed to enjoy his own experience. He's supposed to
Speaker 1: be excited when he rides that wave. But because I
Speaker 1: almost drowned, I was like, why weren't you watching me?
Speaker 1: Why were you only? You know he couldn't win. It
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault at all. But anyway, I don't I
Speaker 1: feel like you should be an occasional workout with your
Speaker 1: partner person, Like a beach walk is lovely, would be
Speaker 1: great old people to go to get frozen yorgurts it
Speaker 1: on a bench and take beach walks. That's delightful because
Speaker 1: you could talk etcetera. But being that sort of overly
Speaker 1: competitive rock climbing, hiking, boot camp, mud runner, that kind
Speaker 1: of fucking CrossFit couple. I'm no. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be trained by my boyfriend and entering any kind of
Speaker 1: sucking weightlifting competition with him cheering me on. I'm not
Speaker 1: interested in that. That's l A. That couple that it
Speaker 1: shows up in like those short water resistant shorts at
Speaker 1: the coffee line together because they've just worked out. That's
Speaker 1: you know what l A is, couples in neoprene shorts
Speaker 1: showing up to get a blended cafe mocha to show
Speaker 1: everybody how much they worked out. I actually knew girls
Speaker 1: in their twenties that see their guys and be in
Speaker 1: workout pants even though they didn't work out, because they
Speaker 1: wanted them to think they worked out, And that's moronic.
Speaker 1: The other thing about these at home workouts, which is
Speaker 1: the same as in shop, really I just a door
Speaker 1: working out in my pajamas, like I it's just such
Speaker 1: a so efficient and cost effective. Like I wore these
Speaker 1: fuzzy drawstring pants that are sweats, not really pajamas, but
Speaker 1: they're comfortable, so then I sleep in them. I have
Speaker 1: a tank top in them, and I wake up and
Speaker 1: I'm in like a little warm sweatshirt. And then if
Speaker 1: I do yoga I'll just put a brad top under sometimes,
Speaker 1: But the Isaac one is really about your button legs.
Speaker 1: You didn't even need it, and then do the workout
Speaker 1: and then you shower. But like, you've used that outfit
Speaker 1: so much, like you've lived in it, you've eaten in it,
Speaker 1: you've worked out in it, you've slept in it. You
Speaker 1: put in the fucking hamper, and you're like, yes, you
Speaker 1: you worked out. The outfit worked out also, So this
Speaker 1: is unique and interesting to me. You are going to
Speaker 1: hear a calmversation with Josh Richards, who is a TikTok
Speaker 1: superstar with over twenty seven million followers, but he's also
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old entrepreneur who co founded talent X Entertainment.
Speaker 1: He's part of the viral collective sway l A, and
Speaker 1: launched the popular energy drink Annie Energy. He is the
Speaker 1: youngest person I've talked to so far, but he is
Speaker 1: still a brilliant business person who is using media to
Speaker 1: expand his brand for the next generation. I have to
Speaker 1: say I was utterly surprised. He is young, he is focused,
Speaker 1: he is smart, he is a good person, he is thoughtful,
Speaker 1: he is romantic. I just thought this was really a
Speaker 1: good sign for for our future. I I have only
Speaker 1: ever done one other Zoom podcast and it was with
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. So you're my se So tell me about
Speaker 1: your family, like who's in the house, now, what's the dynamic?
Speaker 1: Who runs the show in your house? Yeah, I'm super
Speaker 1: close with my family, and that's a percent why I've
Speaker 1: been able to stay I guess grounded or some people
Speaker 1: like I mean, like you said, like you said, come
Speaker 1: off nice, That's that's percent my mom and my dad.
Speaker 1: But they've always been really really supportive as well. So
Speaker 1: I've always been a kid trying to do like little
Speaker 1: business ventures. Since I was probably twelve years old. I
Speaker 1: was always trying to find ways to make money. So
Speaker 1: they were used to they were used to me doing
Speaker 1: you know these like bizarre projects, or needing to go
Speaker 1: out to the stores and buying all these like waxes
Speaker 1: or dies, or getting a bunch of blank T shirts
Speaker 1: to go print, or emailing companies with them and then
Speaker 1: helping me write my emails like when I was younger.
Speaker 1: So They've always been really supportive but also making sure
Speaker 1: that I keep get ahead of my shoulders. They would
Speaker 1: say that you've always been an entrepreneur. Did you always
Speaker 1: think that you had that it quality? Did you think
Speaker 1: you were destined for, you know, something great and to
Speaker 1: be successful? Did you even think about that? Because in
Speaker 1: your age, I wasn't even thinking about what I was
Speaker 1: gonna be doing with my life. I mean I didn't.
Speaker 1: Not until my thirties did I really think about what
Speaker 1: road I was gonna be. At late thirties too, did
Speaker 1: I establish any sort of success. So that's why being
Speaker 1: so young is fascinating to me and how this whole
Speaker 1: thing is gonna go. It's a crazy story, and I
Speaker 1: feel like people might find it hard to believe when
Speaker 1: I tell them. But ever since, like as far back
Speaker 1: as I can remember, I'm gonna say seven years old,
Speaker 1: I was. I was raising like a Catholic household as well, um,
Speaker 1: so we were a little bit religious. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: super hard like every single Sunday, but I would always
Speaker 1: pray every single night. So before I went to bed,
Speaker 1: I would always like pray to God that I would
Speaker 1: be like destined for greatness, like I knew there was
Speaker 1: something more. I knew there was something more to me
Speaker 1: than just like doing the normal college route and then
Speaker 1: getting a nine to five. You knew or you had
Speaker 1: a feeling knew that's okay. It's like I told my parents.
Speaker 1: It was like I was always doing business things. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's big. Yeah. I just wanted to be seen. Like
Speaker 1: I knew my name Josh Richards would be know that's
Speaker 1: what That's what I always thought. If it was known
Speaker 1: by you know, ten thousand people were where we're at now,
Speaker 1: where it's it's like twenty five million, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: I just knew that I would be in a place
Speaker 1: where which was you know, a little not so ordinary.
Speaker 1: Did you have an impact? You'd be you would not
Speaker 1: be living an average life. I didn't know a lot
Speaker 1: about your whole world. And when I thought about quote
Speaker 1: unquote the TikTokers, the social media influencers, I thought, only
Speaker 1: game changers on this podcast, only mavericks. Only started from
Speaker 1: the bottom now here. The filter is very, very serious,
Speaker 1: and I don't put people on just because they're famous
Speaker 1: or because they're rich. They have to have really done something.
Speaker 1: So in reading about us, said, let's have this guy
Speaker 1: on you know the whole show because it is it
Speaker 1: is a business story, and you're definitely changing a game,
Speaker 1: and that's sort of what we're talking about. So a
Speaker 1: couple of things come to mind. Listen, you're young, and
Speaker 1: there's all you have a have to learn, no matter what,
Speaker 1: and so you hopefully you know what you know and
Speaker 1: know what you don't know. Yeah, I would say that's
Speaker 1: something that actually Michael and I've talked about a lot recently,
Speaker 1: is sticking to what you know, right, because you can
Speaker 1: be super super smart in one area, but then the
Speaker 1: second you step out, you can become a complete moron.
Speaker 1: So that know what you know and know what you
Speaker 1: don't know is so important, especially in this business world,
Speaker 1: and especially when you're a founder, especially when you're investing,
Speaker 1: because you're you're either one dealing with other people's money
Speaker 1: that's invested in you, or you're dealing with your own
Speaker 1: capital that you're investing, or you have your company with
Speaker 1: and other people involved that you're affecting when you make decisions. Right.
Speaker 1: So for us, we really really focus on the things
Speaker 1: we know. We bring in operators and they can do
Speaker 1: certain things in the company that we don't know. So
Speaker 1: we're really big on like the plug and play model.
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? And yeah, there have been many fashion
Speaker 1: designers that have lost tons of money, many chefs because
Speaker 1: you're creative types that have thought that their business people
Speaker 1: versus like Calvin Klein had a partner called Barry Schwartz
Speaker 1: and that was the business and Calvin Klein was a
Speaker 1: design not to say the Calvin clan isn't a genius
Speaker 1: and in his own right, but you know, Elton John
Speaker 1: and Bernie Taupin, like good partnerships are where one person
Speaker 1: is great at one thing and the others the other
Speaker 1: and the twain don't necessarily meet. Doesn't mean that I'm
Speaker 1: not creative and a business person and a marketer and
Speaker 1: a business person, but I know what I don't know,
Speaker 1: and that's that's gonna be a big thing for you.
Speaker 1: So that given that the money you talk about investing,
Speaker 1: are you investing your own money or people are just
Speaker 1: giving you equity because you have a value and sweat equity. No,
Speaker 1: I'm investing my own capital. Interesting, wow, and does that
Speaker 1: make you nervous? I mean, it's so cool to be
Speaker 1: on the other side of like running founding a company, right,
Speaker 1: like I have my own company, any Energy, which we
Speaker 1: founded and we built and we brought in an operator.
Speaker 1: Evan Burns is amazing. He helps out a lot with it.
Speaker 1: He did long drink as well. But to be the
Speaker 1: people that are actually giving the capital instead of going
Speaker 1: around trying to raise money, right and and to see
Speaker 1: those young founders or whatever age they are, and see
Speaker 1: how like, how driven there, what their passions are. What
Speaker 1: I can actually learn from those other founders when I'm
Speaker 1: going and investing. If I invest in, I mess up,
Speaker 1: then it's a it's a learning opportunity to see, Okay,
Speaker 1: what where did I go wrong? What did they say
Speaker 1: that I should have caught. If I miss an investment
Speaker 1: and they do well, then I can follow that investment
Speaker 1: as well and be like, all right, I should do
Speaker 1: this with my company. Or you know, this is something
Speaker 1: that I thought wouldn't work out, turns out it did.
Speaker 1: What was I missing? So yeah, I would say I
Speaker 1: love investing. An elevator pictures you being able to tell
Speaker 1: me what your brand is in an elevator ride, So
Speaker 1: pitch your brand, all right. So I'm an entertainer, started
Speaker 1: when I was fourteen. I've been able to grow my
Speaker 1: following up to twenty five million on TikTok, seven point
Speaker 1: five on Instagram, and two point for on YouTube. I
Speaker 1: enjoy spreading out my content on social media platforms. I
Speaker 1: have a podcast with bar Stool supports, and really want
Speaker 1: to keep heading into that Dave Portnoy and bar Stool
Speaker 1: entertaining category. That's something that really intrigues me. UH. With
Speaker 1: my social media, I've been able to, you know, step
Speaker 1: into the business world. I really want to focus on
Speaker 1: growing up my entrepreneurial portfolio. I founded talent X management
Speaker 1: company managers the top of hundred creators, then created Sway
Speaker 1: within that management company. Within Sway, we're able to build
Speaker 1: out UM any energy company. Bryce Hall and I found
Speaker 1: it together. After that, I started focusing a lot on
Speaker 1: equity plays and investing my money. Teamed up with Trailer
Speaker 1: to become chief strategy officer over there. UM acquired a
Speaker 1: part of Ellen's company on High and UH and working
Speaker 1: with her as well with Snoop Dog with Dog for Dog,
Speaker 1: the dog food company, where we're giving back dog food
Speaker 1: bag every time once bought to a shelter. There's about
Speaker 1: like seven hundred thousand dogs that are euthanized a year
Speaker 1: in the States, and I have a dog and there's
Speaker 1: about six in this ax. So that me, that's what
Speaker 1: I do. Okay, that's your resume what I want. And
Speaker 1: it's amazing and you're so smart. If you define exactly
Speaker 1: what your brand is, like it's about being an authentic, edgy,
Speaker 1: modern entrepreneur, influencer something like that. If you have the
Speaker 1: statement that it is your mission statement what it means,
Speaker 1: you will only do deals that stick to that, It'll
Speaker 1: make it so good. Then every time someone comes to
Speaker 1: you and offers you something, because you're getting offered everything,
Speaker 1: you will only do things if they adhere to that brand,
Speaker 1: or you might adjust your brand a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I think you're so smart. This is so fascinating for me.
Speaker 1: What do you think about fame so early, like you know,
Speaker 1: the Justin Bieber, the Michael Jackson having such enormous fame
Speaker 1: and things thrown at you so early. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: what I found is it's a gift in a curse, right,
Speaker 1: Like not one kid that's in their senior year of
Speaker 1: school wouldn't say, you know what, peace out high school.
Speaker 1: I'll drop out, move to l a live in a mansion.
Speaker 1: Party it up with my friends and post social media content.
Speaker 1: Not one senior like in high schoolould be like no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: When you look at it that way or you look
Speaker 1: at it from an outside perspective, it's like they have
Speaker 1: the best lives ever. But then when I do all
Speaker 1: those things, like the three and a half years of
Speaker 1: work that I was doing in social media to get
Speaker 1: to the point where I could go to l A
Speaker 1: at my senior year in high school and like drop
Speaker 1: out of high school. I was getting made fun of
Speaker 1: for three and a half years, like every day going
Speaker 1: to school, it was like kind of shitty, and I
Speaker 1: knew lunch period be the worst every day because I'm
Speaker 1: going and sitting down, and it's like I had my
Speaker 1: friend group and I was kind of a like I
Speaker 1: was a popular kid before I did social media because
Speaker 1: I played all like hockey, I played soccer, I played basketball.
Speaker 1: I was like an athlete in a small town. So
Speaker 1: that's how you kind of get popular in a small town.
Speaker 1: And then, um, I had my small friend group whatever,
Speaker 1: but I would always get made fun of it. And
Speaker 1: then when you come to l A, you think like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: now I'm around people that are like me right, Like
Speaker 1: now I have social media people, so you make a
Speaker 1: lot of friends really quickly. You get like a group
Speaker 1: of twenty friends. But then people start stabbing each other
Speaker 1: in the back. It's l A. So then so then
Speaker 1: everyone's you know, going down the road of like finding
Speaker 1: that people are fake. And so that's the biggest lesson
Speaker 1: I learned, like being an eighteen year old in l A.
Speaker 1: And it sounds weird, but you need to find like
Speaker 1: a click, keep it tight, keep a circle tight, inner circles,
Speaker 1: stick with them and not just at your age. By
Speaker 1: the way, my circle is tight as fuck. Keep Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my house. That's why I live with these people.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone in here I would take a bullet for.
Speaker 1: And it's like I don't need to go hang out
Speaker 1: with anyone else. Yeah, by the way, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: when you if you want to go find friends, you
Speaker 1: can find them later. And you can be friends with
Speaker 1: people in business. But it's not show friends. It's show business.
Speaker 1: So you've chosen this road dating. Is there a benefit
Speaker 1: to dating a woman in this world? Would it be
Speaker 1: nice to find some girl who didn't care? Do you care?
Speaker 1: Is it just fun? It doesn't matter what do you think?
Speaker 1: And what are these girls? Can't you tell right away
Speaker 1: if their thirsty and want to be in that house
Speaker 1: and you know, want to get a night in the house,
Speaker 1: Like what's the deal with all that? So yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: I mean from my experiences, And it's funny that you
Speaker 1: bring that up because that's my mom's number one worry.
Speaker 1: It's like you'll never find someone that does is for you,
Speaker 1: just for you, like you'll never know, right. So for me,
Speaker 1: when I when I had my first girlfriend, my first
Speaker 1: serious girlfriend, um, I didn't become public with her for
Speaker 1: three months. So it's like I did it for three
Speaker 1: months and uh, I made sure that like we didn't
Speaker 1: tell anyone, we didn't post because I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that like we were having a real relationship, right,
Speaker 1: And then after that we slowly started, you know, posting
Speaker 1: together blah blah blah. And I've I've only been with
Speaker 1: that one girl since I've done social media, so like
Speaker 1: for the last year and a half. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: definitely creators like that focus utilizing the relationship. For So,
Speaker 1: do you think you're overextending and how do you navigate that? Yeah? No, Um,
Speaker 1: so that's that's a like a daily conversation. I mean
Speaker 1: we get pitched probably like thirty companies a day. Like
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like the amount of companies that are like
Speaker 1: in emails or pitch to Michael that come back to us. Like,
Speaker 1: so we're not saying yes to everything. If we were,
Speaker 1: we would be actually drowning. It's looking at which opportunities
Speaker 1: are almost too good to give up, and also what
Speaker 1: we want to do. Like when we are doing a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are passion projects, right or they're
Speaker 1: there in the category where it's it's a home run
Speaker 1: and we're also passionate about it, it's like we're going
Speaker 1: to carve out that time. We'll find that time because
Speaker 1: we just love doing it naturally. Right. So there's a
Speaker 1: couple of things that we do that is just it
Speaker 1: doesn't it loses that feeling of work because it's fun. So, Um,
Speaker 1: you said that you talked to your parents about business
Speaker 1: and they nurtured you in all these ideas. Did they
Speaker 1: teach you about business so you would just you were
Speaker 1: just born that way? It was definitely more of born
Speaker 1: that way. Um, my parents aren't business people. My dad's
Speaker 1: more of just like a hard worker and like he
Speaker 1: will put in hours and hours to understand something until
Speaker 1: he gets it right. He's a math teacher as well,
Speaker 1: like he's the head of the math department and teaches
Speaker 1: calculus at high school. So he's like he's really smart
Speaker 1: with numbers. And I think that's what helped me um
Speaker 1: in business a little bit, because I'm very analytical and
Speaker 1: I'm always like studying data. So like there were little
Speaker 1: I think things they gave me that helped me a
Speaker 1: lot with my business. And then my mom's also just
Speaker 1: like she's a speech pathologist, so she has to be
Speaker 1: really good at, you know, speaking to people. She's a
Speaker 1: people pleaser. So I think me getting both those you know,
Speaker 1: skills helped me a lot in the business world because
Speaker 1: I'm able to turn on charm when I'm going to
Speaker 1: like business dinners or talking to people that we need
Speaker 1: to please. And then I'm also able to you know,
Speaker 1: when I was growing on social media, it was all
Speaker 1: studying numbers. Like I was going to the leaderboards on
Speaker 1: UH musically at the time, and I would go through
Speaker 1: and I would get my sister to go and follow
Speaker 1: and unfollowed. I think it was two fifty people every
Speaker 1: single day. There was literally a leaderboard that showed who
Speaker 1: spent the most money on the musically app right as
Speaker 1: fans who donated the most money. So what I was
Speaker 1: doing is why wouldn't I go and target that customer
Speaker 1: and you know, get that customer acquisition when it's like
Speaker 1: right there. So that's how I was thinking. At like fourteen,
Speaker 1: I hired my sister on a fifteen percent commission based
Speaker 1: salary and like all these things, I wouldn't have known
Speaker 1: if my dad didn't like help me with the math
Speaker 1: and like we were doing crazy math problems that were
Speaker 1: actually in the business world. So it was like my
Speaker 1: dad would almost target it to that on purpose. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my sister would go through follow unfollowed, I'd be live.
Speaker 1: We were targeting the exact customer I wanted. I was
Speaker 1: an account with d followers that was beating the seven
Speaker 1: and ten million forward accounts in gifts because I knew
Speaker 1: which customer I wanted to acquire. Didn't need the ten
Speaker 1: million followers that weren't going to donate at that point,
Speaker 1: it was just a business, So I needed the followers
Speaker 1: that we're going to donate. So what is your favorite
Speaker 1: thing that what's your favorite thing that you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk business and then personally, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do in your personal life and what's
Speaker 1: your favorite thing that you're doing your professional life? Alright,
Speaker 1: personal life literally, any like boys trip I'm in will
Speaker 1: do if it's like going golfing, if it's a down
Speaker 1: the ice, Like I'm a hockey player. I love hockey.
Speaker 1: So if it's it's hockey. Literally, anything with the sports
Speaker 1: or like the boys day, like surfing, beach whatever, in
Speaker 1: love it. I'm all about it. Camping trip, ice fishing,
Speaker 1: Let's go. It's like you gotta vibe with the boys.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like girls going their girls trips. Y're great.
Speaker 1: I love it. And then for like the business side,
Speaker 1: I would say there's actually two things right now that
Speaker 1: I'm like. I think it's because they're maybe a little bit.
Speaker 1: One's a little new and exciting. I'm really intrigued by it.
Speaker 1: Um and that sports cards. I love trade like sports
Speaker 1: trading cards. Really we're getting really into that. I saw
Speaker 1: you actually had Gary v on the podcast, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been talking with him lately and it's like, I
Speaker 1: am so such a believer. I think they're gonna absolutely skyrocket.
Speaker 1: I've been in a few days. I've I want to
Speaker 1: start focusing actually some of my social media career and
Speaker 1: like the content type post on sports cards and trading,
Speaker 1: it's just like such a cool field. I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. So it's like art. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the modern day art where you can
Speaker 1: actually invest in these art pieces and they're going to
Speaker 1: be like a hundred xing a thousand exit fascinating. My
Speaker 1: father was a major, major, big baseball card collector, Like
Speaker 1: he left his baseball card collection to Joe tore Right,
Speaker 1: So like baseball is ridiculous, there's cards that go for
Speaker 1: like millions. That's a really serious collection. Now that Joe
Speaker 1: Tori has it well, as you've been talking, I think
Speaker 1: that whatever your mission statement is or whatever your brand
Speaker 1: statement is should include sports, business, media, and venture capital.
Speaker 1: So it's not just social media. It's media. So you're
Speaker 1: taking yourself it's more serious. It's just social media. But
Speaker 1: as I talked to you, this is the things that
Speaker 1: are jumping off the page, not in that order. And
Speaker 1: then the last thing is, so if you like a
Speaker 1: girl or you want to talk to them, do you
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call or do you face
Speaker 1: time or do you only text? Um, definitely not only text.
Speaker 1: I suck at texting. I'm going to be worst texters
Speaker 1: like ever. But it's like the imperson thing in the podcast.
Speaker 1: I just like being in personal people. So if I
Speaker 1: like a girl, I gotta go like talk to her
Speaker 1: in person, Like I'm gonna call her and be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's go hang out at the beach or let's go
Speaker 1: on a date like your renaissance man. This is what
Speaker 1: every girl wants to hear. Number one, Okay, that's an excellent,
Speaker 1: excellent answer. It's beyond what I imagine. I thought you
Speaker 1: were a person who's gonna like get into a relationship
Speaker 1: and then break up on text. So that's number one surprise.
Speaker 1: Number two, are you romantic? You know what romances? Do
Speaker 1: you send girls flowers? Okay, so I know what it is.
Speaker 1: Obviously I would say that I'm a little bit of
Speaker 1: hopeless romanting, but not in a good way. It's like
Speaker 1: I just suck at it. Sometimes you started to see
Speaker 1: if they call it you wear your heart and you
Speaker 1: slave a little. No, It's like I'm just like I
Speaker 1: get so like trapped up in like day to day
Speaker 1: stuff that sometimes I forget, like, oh, maybe I should
Speaker 1: plan like a big thing. But every once in a
Speaker 1: while I will like, I'll be like, like, let's say,
Speaker 1: like with withnessa like when we would have like something
Speaker 1: coming up it was like a you know, we're dating
Speaker 1: for a year or a birthday or something, and be
Speaker 1: like I'd surprised them with like her with like a
Speaker 1: trip to Malibu. So we'd get like an Airbnb and
Speaker 1: it'd be like to two nights in Malbu. So I
Speaker 1: do things like that. So the answer is, yes, you're romantic,
Speaker 1: and flowers will always be appreciated, just letting you know,
Speaker 1: but good flowers. Um, I think you're wonderful. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that I had to on. This is even longer
Speaker 1: than I usually talk to anyone. You're wonderful. I wish
Speaker 1: you all the success and the luck in the world.
Speaker 1: And if there's anything you need for me or you
Speaker 1: want to do anything together, tell Michael. He seems great.
Speaker 1: But you have an amazing head on your shoulders and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your homework. What that what
Speaker 1: that brand statement? Is that? Today? All right? Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Josh, Thank you I thought that that was
Speaker 1: so interesting. I just loved thinking about the influence that
Speaker 1: Josh's parents have had on his life. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of not only about who he is, but you see
Speaker 1: that he's so young, that his parents and how they've
Speaker 1: raised him being such a massive star right now in
Speaker 1: this next generation that many of us don't even understand
Speaker 1: but sort of need to to understand our kids and
Speaker 1: to understand the future, and to understand commerce and entertainment
Speaker 1: and social media and all that. So I thought that
Speaker 1: that was really fascinating. I'm still waiting to hear exactly
Speaker 1: what Josh's brand is and if he's going to give
Speaker 1: me his elevator pitch. I've given him homework, so I
Speaker 1: I'm wait to see if he does his homework. And
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating that an eighteen year old is
Speaker 1: making serious business decisions. It's amazing. You can't underestimate our youth.
Speaker 1: I just love the different types of people and businesses
Speaker 1: we keep talking about on the show because they're just
Speaker 1: broadening our horizons together. And every time I read about
Speaker 1: one of these people, I'm just floored by what people
Speaker 1: can accomplish, starting from the bottom ending up here and
Speaker 1: just with sheer, will, determination, passion, drive and quality. Please
Speaker 1: remember to rate, review and subscribe to Just Be with Bethany.
Speaker 1: We love hearing from you, and we love getting your
Speaker 1: ratings and reviews because it's good feedback and we pour
Speaker 1: it right back into the show for you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Just Be is hosted by me Bethany frank All. Our
Speaker 1: managing producer is Fiona Smith, and our producer is Stephanie Stender.
Speaker 1: Our cat Nec is our assistant producer, and our Development
Speaker 1: Executive is Nayantar. Awarding Just Be as a production of
Speaker 1: the real productions and endeavor content. This episode was mixed
Speaker 1: by Sam Bear. To catch more moments from the show,
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at Just Be with Bethany.