1 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't work out. People think I work out, and 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: it's a tricky thing because I don't. I'm not in 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: the best shape. I'm thin, but you know, I do yoga, 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I walk on the beach. I will say that I've 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: always been in some sort of relationship with fitness, and 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: I do believe that working out it's like a relationship. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: It's like your relationship with food, which should be a 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: healthy one. It shouldn't be obsessive. I was good if 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: I didn't eat. I was bad if I ate. I, 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: you know, ate a handful of chips, and then I 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: have to eat French fries and cake and destroy myself 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be good tomorrow. You know. That was 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: my whole book, Naturally Thin. It was about that mental torture, 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: that inner lamb, screaming, that noise about food, and the 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: same thing goes on with exercise. I see people running 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: around like crazy, obsessed about working out, then eating their 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: weight in everything that whole day, and then they have 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: to work out again because they ate so much because 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: they worked out that morning. You also have to figure 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: out what's good for your personality type like I'm thin, 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: but I want to get tight, so I don't need 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: to be running around jumping up and down doing jumping 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: jack's and dancing and doing the Grapevine when I need 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: to sort of tighten and lift. So I did this 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: free YouTube work out today. So I found my former 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: yoga teacher online and there are free videos of her. 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are joining these online things, 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: and I thought, I have to subscribe to something. And 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: it's not that I'm not going to spend or the 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a day or I don't know what it costs, 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: but it's that then it'll make me feel like I 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: have this pressure about it. So today I just went 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube and I and I feel like I'm stealing? 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Is that stealing? This guy Isaac that is my makeup 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: artists X. His name is Isaac, and Christopher Buckle used 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: to go out with him, So am I cheating on 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Christopher Buckle? I have to ask him if I'm allowed 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 1: to work out with his ex boyfriend. This guy Isaac 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: has this whole community apparently, and he donates to charity 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: and he works out different rich people's houses and he 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: shouts you out, which is why I don't want to 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: go on and be part of the online thing because 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be shouted out. Now I'm hacking 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: into someone else's Instagram account to work out on Isaac's 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: thing and not get shouted out. So there's a fifth 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: team in a workout for free. So I made Paul 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: do with me today and it was great. And it's 48 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: also the Jaine Fond of workout, just so you know, 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these current workouts are the Jain Fond 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: of workouts. I'm thinking about taking another post It note 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: doubt and reviving some iteration and modern version of the 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Jaine fond to work out, because that was always manageable 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and I could do it and it was like the 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Curves of workouts. It's not like JC Anderson where you 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: get yourself into a pretzel, your Vaginian it becomes your 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: asshole and somehow you're doing these weird, complicated, convoluted moves 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: that you don't you just don't know how your body 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: could you like a contortionist. You're in sirk to sola. 59 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: That's a lot for me. It's overwhelming. I could do 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: it once, cry and swept, but then I'm scared to 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: go back. So Isaac's fift Sea minute thing was like 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: a modern. I don't even know how modern it was. 63 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: He's just cute and nice. He's got his dog there, 64 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: and we did some fifty minutes and I felt like 65 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: it worked, and it was her person who wants to 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: get tone. So I feel like you could just google 67 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: around and you could get a different private trainer every 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: day for free, just by youtubing. Is that stealing? Hashtag? 69 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: Is that stealing? I think that you should find what 70 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: works for you because some people need that like sweat 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: and that craziness and that manic spinning type thing, that running, 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: that jumping, that dancing, that jumping jack, that mania. Because 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: maybe you're calmer in your life than I am. Maybe 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: you're more you know, said Terry, or maybe just more 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: chill as a person. My friend Sarah is like really 76 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: monotone and she's just chill, and so she needs that. 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Sarah here, you're very chill. Sarah works for me is 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: also very chill. She doesn't get that flustered, so she 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: likes big, major workouts. Two. So I think I've come 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: to something here. I think that your personality type attracts 81 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: a different type of exercise that works for you. I'd 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: like to do a little side thing about bicker and yoga, 83 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: because forget the fact that the I think it was 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Baron Baptiste that he was like he had like crotch 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: hugging male pant d's and was sweating on top of 86 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: other people and like adjusting people with his dick in 87 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: their face. That's a separate conversation. But when you do 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: things like bickram yoga or these other things, these places 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: give you like five free classes in a row and 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: then you are in the cult. Is just enough days 91 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: to get you in the cult. And I'm not really 92 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a cult mentality, so I can break out. But I've 93 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: seen people there be like I did a morning, I 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: did a night, I did two and days. People get 95 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: into this crazy cult like exercise mentality, and I don't 96 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: think that's healthy. Like those people at the gym. I 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: used to see these very very very very skinny, skinny, 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: unhealthy looking women that would stay in the steam room 99 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: for like an hour and a half, like you know, 100 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: something's wrong. I did not take crystal meth this morning. 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: If anyone's wondering, So what do you guys think about 102 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: workouts and your workouts for your own body type and 103 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: what you're attracted to? I feel like we could really 104 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: hijack the system by just every day doing some other 105 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: online free workout. So Dranda and I were talking about 106 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: this guy that is the type of guy that like 107 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: picks you up. You've been on a flight from London 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: to come visit him, and he picks you up and 109 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: wants to go on a fucking hike together, versus like 110 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: going to get a glass of shardonnay and relax. So 111 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I was with polit a vacation and we ran We 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: were in the Dominican Republic and we ran into someone 113 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: that I know, who I'm friends with, who I like 114 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot, and we ran into her and her boyfriend 115 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: and we said hi, and then You're like, oh god, 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: are we now on vacation with them? And we like, 117 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You know how that goes, 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: like we are, we really like them, but like that 119 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we're on vacation together. So we showed up, 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: We saw them high, we did some meals and it 121 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: was totally fun, hung on the beach, dip in and out. 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm a dip in and out kind of girl in 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: every way. But in the morning, I guess we were 124 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: just walking to go get like coffee, or get some 125 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: fruit for the room and we wake up early. Don't 126 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: get it twisted, But we saw them and the like 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: we just did a hake, smiling, all fucking happy and 128 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: healthy and American, and I was like, I fucking hate you. 129 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: We were just drinking coffee and I was just like, 130 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: they're that couple and they're like, we booked a four 131 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: hour time aside later and then we're gonn to go 132 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: zip lining and we're gonna go do the paddleboarding through 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the jungle adventure. And I am not that person. I 134 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: did have Paul do that like fifteen minute workout just 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: so he wouldn't leave the room and then get caught 136 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: into something else. And I wanted to sort of capture 137 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: him and having be like sort of like a prisoner, 138 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, like shackle him to myself. So that's the 139 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: only reason why I was, you know, working out with him. 140 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: And once in a while, same thing. If I'll have 141 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: a yoga person come where I'm doing yoga, but do 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: you want to do with me? Just because I feel 143 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: like it'll be good for his body. And I'm here, 144 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: and you know, he's not competitive about exercise or anything, 145 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and he always says no anyway, But if he did, 146 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: it would be nice because it's not like he's so 147 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: into it. I don't like when someone gets super into 148 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: something like now we're that couple that like every day 149 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: we're doing this, and in fact we got into surfing it. 150 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: It was not good for our relationship because it was 151 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: like almost competitive. And then he went in it was 152 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: so excited by it, and I almost got like taken 153 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: by a way. But he was so excited by like 154 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: being Sean Penn infest times a Ridgemond high that like 155 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: I was drowning, and I was like, I'm high, and 156 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: he's supposed to enjoy his own experience. He's supposed to 157 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: be excited when he rides that wave. But because I 158 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: almost drowned, I was like, why weren't you watching me? 159 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Why were you only? You know he couldn't win. It 160 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: wasn't his fault at all. But anyway, I don't I 161 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: feel like you should be an occasional workout with your 162 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: partner person, Like a beach walk is lovely, would be 163 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: great old people to go to get frozen yorgurts it 164 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: on a bench and take beach walks. That's delightful because 165 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you could talk etcetera. But being that sort of overly 166 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: competitive rock climbing, hiking, boot camp, mud runner, that kind 167 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: of fucking CrossFit couple. I'm no. I don't want to 168 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: be trained by my boyfriend and entering any kind of 169 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: sucking weightlifting competition with him cheering me on. I'm not 170 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: interested in that. That's l A. That couple that it 171 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: shows up in like those short water resistant shorts at 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: the coffee line together because they've just worked out. That's 173 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you know what l A is, couples in neoprene shorts 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: showing up to get a blended cafe mocha to show 175 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody how much they worked out. I actually knew girls 176 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: in their twenties that see their guys and be in 177 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: workout pants even though they didn't work out, because they 178 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: wanted them to think they worked out, And that's moronic. 179 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: The other thing about these at home workouts, which is 180 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the same as in shop, really I just a door 181 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: working out in my pajamas, like I it's just such 182 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: a so efficient and cost effective. Like I wore these 183 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: fuzzy drawstring pants that are sweats, not really pajamas, but 184 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: they're comfortable, so then I sleep in them. I have 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: a tank top in them, and I wake up and 186 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm in like a little warm sweatshirt. And then if 187 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: I do yoga I'll just put a brad top under sometimes, 188 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: But the Isaac one is really about your button legs. 189 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: You didn't even need it, and then do the workout 190 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: and then you shower. But like, you've used that outfit 191 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: so much, like you've lived in it, you've eaten in it, 192 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: you've worked out in it, you've slept in it. You 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: put in the fucking hamper, and you're like, yes, you 194 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: you worked out. The outfit worked out also, So this 195 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: is unique and interesting to me. You are going to 196 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: hear a calmversation with Josh Richards, who is a TikTok 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: superstar with over twenty seven million followers, but he's also 198 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old entrepreneur who co founded talent X Entertainment. 199 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: He's part of the viral collective sway l A, and 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: launched the popular energy drink Annie Energy. He is the 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: youngest person I've talked to so far, but he is 202 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: still a brilliant business person who is using media to 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: expand his brand for the next generation. I have to 204 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: say I was utterly surprised. He is young, he is focused, 205 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: he is smart, he is a good person, he is thoughtful, 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: he is romantic. I just thought this was really a 207 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: good sign for for our future. I I have only 208 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: ever done one other Zoom podcast and it was with 209 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. So you're my se So tell me about 210 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: your family, like who's in the house, now, what's the dynamic? 211 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Who runs the show in your house? Yeah, I'm super 212 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: close with my family, and that's a percent why I've 213 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: been able to stay I guess grounded or some people 214 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: like I mean, like you said, like you said, come 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: off nice, That's that's percent my mom and my dad. 216 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: But they've always been really really supportive as well. So 217 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: I've always been a kid trying to do like little 218 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: business ventures. Since I was probably twelve years old. I 219 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: was always trying to find ways to make money. So 220 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: they were used to they were used to me doing 221 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: you know these like bizarre projects, or needing to go 222 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: out to the stores and buying all these like waxes 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: or dies, or getting a bunch of blank T shirts 224 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to go print, or emailing companies with them and then 225 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: helping me write my emails like when I was younger. 226 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: So They've always been really supportive but also making sure 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: that I keep get ahead of my shoulders. They would 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: say that you've always been an entrepreneur. Did you always 229 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: think that you had that it quality? Did you think 230 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: you were destined for, you know, something great and to 231 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: be successful? Did you even think about that? Because in 232 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: your age, I wasn't even thinking about what I was 233 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna be doing with my life. I mean I didn't. 234 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: Not until my thirties did I really think about what 235 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: road I was gonna be. At late thirties too, did 236 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: I establish any sort of success. So that's why being 237 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: so young is fascinating to me and how this whole 238 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: thing is gonna go. It's a crazy story, and I 239 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: feel like people might find it hard to believe when 240 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I tell them. But ever since, like as far back 241 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: as I can remember, I'm gonna say seven years old, 242 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I was. I was raising like a Catholic household as well, um, 243 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: so we were a little bit religious. It wasn't like 244 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: super hard like every single Sunday, but I would always 245 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: pray every single night. So before I went to bed, 246 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I would always like pray to God that I would 247 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: be like destined for greatness, like I knew there was 248 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: something more. I knew there was something more to me 249 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: than just like doing the normal college route and then 250 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: getting a nine to five. You knew or you had 251 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: a feeling knew that's okay. It's like I told my parents. 252 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: It was like I was always doing business things. Okay, 253 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: that's big. Yeah. I just wanted to be seen. Like 254 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: I knew my name Josh Richards would be know that's 255 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: what That's what I always thought. If it was known 256 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: by you know, ten thousand people were where we're at now, 257 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: where it's it's like twenty five million, it didn't matter. 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: I just knew that I would be in a place 259 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: where which was you know, a little not so ordinary. 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Did you have an impact? You'd be you would not 261 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: be living an average life. I didn't know a lot 262 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: about your whole world. And when I thought about quote 263 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: unquote the TikTokers, the social media influencers, I thought, only 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: game changers on this podcast, only mavericks. Only started from 265 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: the bottom now here. The filter is very, very serious, 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: and I don't put people on just because they're famous 267 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: or because they're rich. They have to have really done something. 268 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: So in reading about us, said, let's have this guy 269 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: on you know the whole show because it is it 270 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: is a business story, and you're definitely changing a game, 271 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: and that's sort of what we're talking about. So a 272 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: couple of things come to mind. Listen, you're young, and 273 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: there's all you have a have to learn, no matter what, 274 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: and so you hopefully you know what you know and 275 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: know what you don't know. Yeah, I would say that's 276 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: something that actually Michael and I've talked about a lot recently, 277 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: is sticking to what you know, right, because you can 278 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: be super super smart in one area, but then the 279 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: second you step out, you can become a complete moron. 280 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: So that know what you know and know what you 281 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: don't know is so important, especially in this business world, 282 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: and especially when you're a founder, especially when you're investing, 283 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: because you're you're either one dealing with other people's money 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: that's invested in you, or you're dealing with your own 285 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: capital that you're investing, or you have your company with 286 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: and other people involved that you're affecting when you make decisions. Right. 287 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: So for us, we really really focus on the things 288 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: we know. We bring in operators and they can do 289 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: certain things in the company that we don't know. So 290 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: we're really big on like the plug and play model. 291 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? And yeah, there have been many fashion 292 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: designers that have lost tons of money, many chefs because 293 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: you're creative types that have thought that their business people 294 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: versus like Calvin Klein had a partner called Barry Schwartz 295 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: and that was the business and Calvin Klein was a 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: design not to say the Calvin clan isn't a genius 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: and in his own right, but you know, Elton John 298 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: and Bernie Taupin, like good partnerships are where one person 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: is great at one thing and the others the other 300 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: and the twain don't necessarily meet. Doesn't mean that I'm 301 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: not creative and a business person and a marketer and 302 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: a business person, but I know what I don't know, 303 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: and that's that's gonna be a big thing for you. 304 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: So that given that the money you talk about investing, 305 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: are you investing your own money or people are just 306 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: giving you equity because you have a value and sweat equity. No, 307 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm investing my own capital. Interesting, wow, and does that 308 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: make you nervous? I mean, it's so cool to be 309 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: on the other side of like running founding a company, right, 310 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: like I have my own company, any Energy, which we 311 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: founded and we built and we brought in an operator. 312 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Evan Burns is amazing. He helps out a lot with it. 313 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: He did long drink as well. But to be the 314 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: people that are actually giving the capital instead of going 315 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: around trying to raise money, right and and to see 316 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: those young founders or whatever age they are, and see 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: how like, how driven there, what their passions are. What 318 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: I can actually learn from those other founders when I'm 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: going and investing. If I invest in, I mess up, 320 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: then it's a it's a learning opportunity to see, Okay, 321 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: what where did I go wrong? What did they say 322 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: that I should have caught. If I miss an investment 323 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and they do well, then I can follow that investment 324 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: as well and be like, all right, I should do 325 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: this with my company. Or you know, this is something 326 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: that I thought wouldn't work out, turns out it did. 327 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: What was I missing? So yeah, I would say I 328 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: love investing. An elevator pictures you being able to tell 329 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: me what your brand is in an elevator ride, So 330 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: pitch your brand, all right. So I'm an entertainer, started 331 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: when I was fourteen. I've been able to grow my 332 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: following up to twenty five million on TikTok, seven point 333 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: five on Instagram, and two point for on YouTube. I 334 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: enjoy spreading out my content on social media platforms. I 335 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: have a podcast with bar Stool supports, and really want 336 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: to keep heading into that Dave Portnoy and bar Stool 337 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: entertaining category. That's something that really intrigues me. UH. With 338 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: my social media, I've been able to, you know, step 339 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: into the business world. I really want to focus on 340 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: growing up my entrepreneurial portfolio. I founded talent X management 341 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: company managers the top of hundred creators, then created Sway 342 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: within that management company. Within Sway, we're able to build 343 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: out UM any energy company. Bryce Hall and I found 344 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: it together. After that, I started focusing a lot on 345 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: equity plays and investing my money. Teamed up with Trailer 346 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: to become chief strategy officer over there. UM acquired a 347 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: part of Ellen's company on High and UH and working 348 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: with her as well with Snoop Dog with Dog for Dog, 349 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: the dog food company, where we're giving back dog food 350 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: bag every time once bought to a shelter. There's about 351 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: like seven hundred thousand dogs that are euthanized a year 352 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: in the States, and I have a dog and there's 353 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: about six in this ax. So that me, that's what 354 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I do. Okay, that's your resume what I want. And 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing and you're so smart. If you define exactly 356 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: what your brand is, like it's about being an authentic, edgy, 357 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: modern entrepreneur, influencer something like that. If you have the 358 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: statement that it is your mission statement what it means, 359 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: you will only do deals that stick to that, It'll 360 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: make it so good. Then every time someone comes to 361 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: you and offers you something, because you're getting offered everything, 362 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: you will only do things if they adhere to that brand, 363 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: or you might adjust your brand a little bit. But 364 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: I think you're so smart. This is so fascinating for me. 365 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: What do you think about fame so early, like you know, 366 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: the Justin Bieber, the Michael Jackson having such enormous fame 367 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: and things thrown at you so early. Yeah. Yeah, So 368 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: what I found is it's a gift in a curse, right, 369 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Like not one kid that's in their senior year of 370 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: school wouldn't say, you know what, peace out high school. 371 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I'll drop out, move to l a live in a mansion. 372 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: Party it up with my friends and post social media content. 373 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: Not one senior like in high schoolould be like no, 374 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, you know what I mean. 375 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: When you look at it that way or you look 376 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: at it from an outside perspective, it's like they have 377 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: the best lives ever. But then when I do all 378 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: those things, like the three and a half years of 379 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: work that I was doing in social media to get 380 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: to the point where I could go to l A 381 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: at my senior year in high school and like drop 382 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: out of high school. I was getting made fun of 383 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: for three and a half years, like every day going 384 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: to school, it was like kind of shitty, and I 385 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: knew lunch period be the worst every day because I'm 386 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: going and sitting down, and it's like I had my 387 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: friend group and I was kind of a like I 388 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: was a popular kid before I did social media because 389 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: I played all like hockey, I played soccer, I played basketball. 390 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: I was like an athlete in a small town. So 391 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: that's how you kind of get popular in a small town. 392 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: And then, um, I had my small friend group whatever, 393 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: but I would always get made fun of it. And 394 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: then when you come to l A, you think like, oh, well, 395 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: now I'm around people that are like me right, Like 396 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: now I have social media people, so you make a 397 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: lot of friends really quickly. You get like a group 398 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: of twenty friends. But then people start stabbing each other 399 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: in the back. It's l A. So then so then 400 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: everyone's you know, going down the road of like finding 401 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that people are fake. And so that's the biggest lesson 402 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: I learned, like being an eighteen year old in l A. 403 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: And it sounds weird, but you need to find like 404 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: a click, keep it tight, keep a circle tight, inner circles, 405 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: stick with them and not just at your age. By 406 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: the way, my circle is tight as fuck. Keep Yeah, 407 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: that's that's my house. That's why I live with these people. 408 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: It's like everyone in here I would take a bullet for. 409 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: And it's like I don't need to go hang out 410 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: with anyone else. Yeah, by the way, yeah, I mean 411 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: when you if you want to go find friends, you 412 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: can find them later. And you can be friends with 413 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: people in business. But it's not show friends. It's show business. 414 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: So you've chosen this road dating. Is there a benefit 415 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: to dating a woman in this world? Would it be 416 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: nice to find some girl who didn't care? Do you care? 417 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Is it just fun? It doesn't matter what do you think? 418 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: And what are these girls? Can't you tell right away 419 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: if their thirsty and want to be in that house 420 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and you know, want to get a night in the house, 421 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: Like what's the deal with all that? So yeah, for sure, 422 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean from my experiences, And it's funny that you 423 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: bring that up because that's my mom's number one worry. 424 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: It's like you'll never find someone that does is for you, 425 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: just for you, like you'll never know, right. So for me, 426 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: when I when I had my first girlfriend, my first 427 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: serious girlfriend, um, I didn't become public with her for 428 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: three months. So it's like I did it for three 429 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: months and uh, I made sure that like we didn't 430 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: tell anyone, we didn't post because I wanted to make 431 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: sure that like we were having a real relationship, right, 432 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: And then after that we slowly started, you know, posting 433 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: together blah blah blah. And I've I've only been with 434 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: that one girl since I've done social media, so like 435 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: for the last year and a half. But yeah, there's 436 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: definitely creators like that focus utilizing the relationship. For So, 437 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: do you think you're overextending and how do you navigate that? Yeah? No, Um, 438 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: so that's that's a like a daily conversation. I mean 439 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: we get pitched probably like thirty companies a day. Like 440 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: it's crazy, like the amount of companies that are like 441 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: in emails or pitch to Michael that come back to us. Like, 442 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: so we're not saying yes to everything. If we were, 443 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: we would be actually drowning. It's looking at which opportunities 444 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: are almost too good to give up, and also what 445 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: we want to do. Like when we are doing a 446 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of things that are passion projects, right or they're 447 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: there in the category where it's it's a home run 448 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: and we're also passionate about it, it's like we're going 449 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: to carve out that time. We'll find that time because 450 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: we just love doing it naturally. Right. So there's a 451 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: couple of things that we do that is just it 452 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: doesn't it loses that feeling of work because it's fun. So, Um, 453 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: you said that you talked to your parents about business 454 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and they nurtured you in all these ideas. Did they 455 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: teach you about business so you would just you were 456 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: just born that way? It was definitely more of born 457 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: that way. Um, my parents aren't business people. My dad's 458 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: more of just like a hard worker and like he 459 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: will put in hours and hours to understand something until 460 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: he gets it right. He's a math teacher as well, 461 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: like he's the head of the math department and teaches 462 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: calculus at high school. So he's like he's really smart 463 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: with numbers. And I think that's what helped me um 464 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: in business a little bit, because I'm very analytical and 465 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm always like studying data. So like there were little 466 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I think things they gave me that helped me a 467 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: lot with my business. And then my mom's also just 468 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: like she's a speech pathologist, so she has to be 469 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: really good at, you know, speaking to people. She's a 470 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: people pleaser. So I think me getting both those you know, 471 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: skills helped me a lot in the business world because 472 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm able to turn on charm when I'm going to 473 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: like business dinners or talking to people that we need 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: to please. And then I'm also able to you know, 475 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: when I was growing on social media, it was all 476 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: studying numbers. Like I was going to the leaderboards on 477 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: UH musically at the time, and I would go through 478 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: and I would get my sister to go and follow 479 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: and unfollowed. I think it was two fifty people every 480 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: single day. There was literally a leaderboard that showed who 481 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: spent the most money on the musically app right as 482 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: fans who donated the most money. So what I was 483 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: doing is why wouldn't I go and target that customer 484 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: and you know, get that customer acquisition when it's like 485 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: right there. So that's how I was thinking. At like fourteen, 486 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I hired my sister on a fifteen percent commission based 487 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: salary and like all these things, I wouldn't have known 488 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: if my dad didn't like help me with the math 489 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: and like we were doing crazy math problems that were 490 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: actually in the business world. So it was like my 491 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: dad would almost target it to that on purpose. But yeah, 492 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: my sister would go through follow unfollowed, I'd be live. 493 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: We were targeting the exact customer I wanted. I was 494 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: an account with d followers that was beating the seven 495 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: and ten million forward accounts in gifts because I knew 496 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: which customer I wanted to acquire. Didn't need the ten 497 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: million followers that weren't going to donate at that point, 498 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: it was just a business, So I needed the followers 499 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: that we're going to donate. So what is your favorite 500 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: thing that what's your favorite thing that you're doing. I mean, 501 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk business and then personally, what's your 502 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do in your personal life and what's 503 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: your favorite thing that you're doing your professional life? Alright, 504 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: personal life literally, any like boys trip I'm in will 505 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: do if it's like going golfing, if it's a down 506 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: the ice, Like I'm a hockey player. I love hockey. 507 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: So if it's it's hockey. Literally, anything with the sports 508 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: or like the boys day, like surfing, beach whatever, in 509 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: love it. I'm all about it. Camping trip, ice fishing, 510 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Let's go. It's like you gotta vibe with the boys. 511 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like girls going their girls trips. Y're great. 512 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I love it. And then for like the business side, 513 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I would say there's actually two things right now that 514 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm like. I think it's because they're maybe a little bit. 515 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: One's a little new and exciting. I'm really intrigued by it. 516 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Um and that sports cards. I love trade like sports 517 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: trading cards. Really we're getting really into that. I saw 518 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: you actually had Gary v on the podcast, so yeah, 519 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I've been talking with him lately and it's like, I 520 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: am so such a believer. I think they're gonna absolutely skyrocket. 521 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: I've been in a few days. I've I want to 522 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: start focusing actually some of my social media career and 523 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: like the content type post on sports cards and trading, 524 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: it's just like such a cool field. I love it. 525 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. So it's like art. I think 526 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the modern day art where you can 527 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: actually invest in these art pieces and they're going to 528 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: be like a hundred xing a thousand exit fascinating. My 529 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: father was a major, major, big baseball card collector, Like 530 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: he left his baseball card collection to Joe tore Right, 531 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: So like baseball is ridiculous, there's cards that go for 532 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: like millions. That's a really serious collection. Now that Joe 533 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Tori has it well, as you've been talking, I think 534 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: that whatever your mission statement is or whatever your brand 535 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: statement is should include sports, business, media, and venture capital. 536 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: So it's not just social media. It's media. So you're 537 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: taking yourself it's more serious. It's just social media. But 538 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: as I talked to you, this is the things that 539 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: are jumping off the page, not in that order. And 540 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: then the last thing is, so if you like a 541 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: girl or you want to talk to them, do you 542 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call or do you face 543 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: time or do you only text? Um, definitely not only text. 544 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I suck at texting. I'm going to be worst texters 545 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: like ever. But it's like the imperson thing in the podcast. 546 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: I just like being in personal people. So if I 547 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: like a girl, I gotta go like talk to her 548 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: in person, Like I'm gonna call her and be like, Yo, 549 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: let's go hang out at the beach or let's go 550 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: on a date like your renaissance man. This is what 551 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: every girl wants to hear. Number one, Okay, that's an excellent, 552 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: excellent answer. It's beyond what I imagine. I thought you 553 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: were a person who's gonna like get into a relationship 554 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: and then break up on text. So that's number one surprise. 555 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: Number two, are you romantic? You know what romances? Do 556 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: you send girls flowers? Okay, so I know what it is. 557 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Obviously I would say that I'm a little bit of 558 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: hopeless romanting, but not in a good way. It's like 559 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: I just suck at it. Sometimes you started to see 560 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: if they call it you wear your heart and you 561 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: slave a little. No, It's like I'm just like I 562 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: get so like trapped up in like day to day 563 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: stuff that sometimes I forget, like, oh, maybe I should 564 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: plan like a big thing. But every once in a 565 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: while I will like, I'll be like, like, let's say, 566 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: like with withnessa like when we would have like something 567 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: coming up it was like a you know, we're dating 568 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: for a year or a birthday or something, and be 569 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: like I'd surprised them with like her with like a 570 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: trip to Malibu. So we'd get like an Airbnb and 571 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: it'd be like to two nights in Malbu. So I 572 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: do things like that. So the answer is, yes, you're romantic, 573 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: and flowers will always be appreciated, just letting you know, 574 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: but good flowers. Um, I think you're wonderful. I'm so 575 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: glad that I had to on. This is even longer 576 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: than I usually talk to anyone. You're wonderful. I wish 577 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: you all the success and the luck in the world. 578 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: And if there's anything you need for me or you 579 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: want to do anything together, tell Michael. He seems great. 580 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: But you have an amazing head on your shoulders and 581 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your homework. What that what 582 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: that brand statement? Is that? Today? All right? Thank you 583 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: so much, Josh, Thank you I thought that that was 584 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: so interesting. I just loved thinking about the influence that 585 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: Josh's parents have had on his life. And it's kind 586 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: of not only about who he is, but you see 587 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: that he's so young, that his parents and how they've 588 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: raised him being such a massive star right now in 589 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: this next generation that many of us don't even understand 590 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: but sort of need to to understand our kids and 591 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: to understand the future, and to understand commerce and entertainment 592 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: and social media and all that. So I thought that 593 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: that was really fascinating. I'm still waiting to hear exactly 594 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: what Josh's brand is and if he's going to give 595 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: me his elevator pitch. I've given him homework, so I 596 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm wait to see if he does his homework. And 597 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: I find it fascinating that an eighteen year old is 598 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: making serious business decisions. It's amazing. You can't underestimate our youth. 599 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I just love the different types of people and businesses 600 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: we keep talking about on the show because they're just 601 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: broadening our horizons together. And every time I read about 602 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: one of these people, I'm just floored by what people 603 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: can accomplish, starting from the bottom ending up here and 604 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: just with sheer, will, determination, passion, drive and quality. Please 605 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: remember to rate, review and subscribe to Just Be with Bethany. 606 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: We love hearing from you, and we love getting your 607 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: ratings and reviews because it's good feedback and we pour 608 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: it right back into the show for you. Thank you. 609 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Just Be is hosted by me Bethany frank All. 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