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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Free Agent Preview Podcast. A look

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Speaker 1: at some key in house free agents this offseason. Now,

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Speaker 1: here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: See Billy's over there lap. Because we actually already did this,

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Speaker 2: we just forgot to hit the record button.

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Speaker 1: So we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're better than ever, and we are here on the

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Speaker 2: Free Agent Preview podcast here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: If you only heard the other five minutes before we

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Speaker 2: actually started talking here, you'd get a good kick out

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Speaker 2: of it. Here we're inside the Indiana Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Say hello to JJ stango Itz, Say hello to Colt's

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Speaker 2: Ring of bunnermember Bill Brooks. Guys, how we doing today

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Speaker 2: on the off season?

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Speaker 3: Doing well, con relax right now and kind of kept

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Speaker 3: up camping, some rest and ready to go.

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Speaker 2: You do look rested, not that you didn't before, Bill.

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Speaker 3: But no, I don't know by them great, but I'm

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Speaker 3: well wrestled right now from the season and ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're starting this with Michael Pittman Junior Data. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: not only because he's the most notable member of this

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Speaker 4: free agency class for the Colts. But because starting on

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Speaker 4: February twentieth through March fifth, the Colts could use the

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Speaker 4: franchise tag YEP on Michael Pittman, which we're going to

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Speaker 4: get into on this podcast, but we had to get

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Speaker 4: this one out first, just so in case we got

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Speaker 4: to February twentieth and this entire podcast could be rendered

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Speaker 4: completely meaningless. So we got to get it out now.

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Speaker 4: Well we can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no wasted content here on the Colts Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. Okay, So Michael Pittman Junior, as we said,

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Speaker 2: the focus of today's first installment of the Free Agency

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Speaker 2: Preview podcast, the Colts have thirteen unrestricted free agents heading

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Speaker 2: into the start of the new league year, which starts

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Speaker 2: on March thirteenth. But before we get into Pittman, let's

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Speaker 2: talk big picture just for a second, because Bill, there's

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Speaker 2: some heavy hitters within this free agency class, if you will,

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Speaker 2: for the Colts. Pittman, you're leading receiver by a wide margin.

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Speaker 2: Your backup quarterback that started thirteen games in Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 2: You're back up running back in Zach Moss, who actually

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Speaker 2: led you in rushing last year. Then on defense, your

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Speaker 2: starter at nickel, Kenny Moore, one of the best players

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Speaker 2: at his position in the NFL. You're starting safety strong safety,

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Speaker 2: and Julian Blackman, your stud nose tackle, and Grover Stewart

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Speaker 2: your outstanding punter, and Riga Berto Sanchez Bill. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is not your average Colts free agency list, if

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Speaker 2: you will. I mean, there's some heavy hitters, a lot

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Speaker 2: of firepower within this class, more so than the Colts

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Speaker 2: couple of years, you've had two to three really big names.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got six, seven, eight, depending on how you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I have some heavy hitter there's there,

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Speaker 3: and not just heavy hitters to stars, but you have

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Speaker 3: some big players. To me, I think that brings something

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Speaker 3: some big decisions to make this year. You know, thank god,

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Speaker 3: I'm not Chris Ballot. No, he has some good decisions

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Speaker 3: to some big to make this offseason. But it'll be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see how they attack free agency, how they

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Speaker 3: attack their own. Over the years, Chris Balla has said that,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we like to look at our own

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Speaker 3: and reward our own players that have come in here

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Speaker 4: So over the next couple of weeks, just so our

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Speaker 4: listeners know, this week and next week, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have these podcasts coming out. We got Michael

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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's talk all things. Michael Pittman, Junior

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Speaker 2: He ranked fifth in catches, He was ninth in targets.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys combined for just one hundred grabs on

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Does this make Pittman the Colts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fair take on this that

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Speaker 4: you know, you think about if Michael Pittman Junior were

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Speaker 4: to not return, you would need to replace. You're replacing

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Speaker 4: not just those those receptions, but all the times that

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Speaker 4: he was targeted. I mean Pittman was targeted one hundred

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Speaker 4: about that, that's an average of almost what nine targets,

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Speaker 4: you would have to find a way to replace, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's difficult to replace someone that big in your offense,

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Speaker 3: think Michael Pittman is a high priority for them in

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Speaker 3: not only does Michael Pittman take a lot of your

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Speaker 3: you know, he hasn't caught less than eighty eight passes

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Speaker 2: Right, Bill, nobody knows wide receiver play better than you

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Speaker 2: when you evaluate him in free agency when you stab

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Speaker 2: came up against some of the other names that might

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Speaker 2: how much how much attention do you think Michael Pittman

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Speaker 3: I think Mike's gonna get a lot of attention this softseason.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be one of the biggest names.

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Speaker 3: He's up there with those guys. And now if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a really good point because you

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Speaker 4: Age definitely a factor here because you know, you usually

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Speaker 4: You're lucky if you get two, you know, two or

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Speaker 4: they were back to back in the twenty twenty draft,

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Speaker 4: forty two catches for six hundred and fifty six yards

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Speaker 4: and he missed some games. But you do have to

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Speaker 4: couple of years has been very durable. He's only missed

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Speaker 2: You know, But I want to go back to something

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Speaker 2: you mentioned. You know, Michael Pittman Junior, compared to those

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Speaker 2: other guys, he may not have as many yards receiving yards.

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Speaker 2: He's got the catches, there's no doubt about that. But

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Speaker 2: last year he only averaged right under eleven yards per catch.

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Speaker 2: So he's not the traditional deep threat. He's not the

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Speaker 2: wide receivers. To be with that in mind, should the

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Speaker 2: Colts have a budget because he's not that deep threat guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is he hitting free agency? At a good

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Speaker 2: time in terms of him being valuable to the Colts,

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Speaker 2: even though he doesn't have the big yards per catch

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Speaker 3: So those are a lot of things you have to

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Speaker 3: Because you have a first round draft pick in your

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Speaker 2: All great points, but JJ at the end of the season,

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Speaker 2: Chris Ballard said in his end of the season press conference, like, Hey, receivers, Now,

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Speaker 2: you trust that guy, as I think the Colts do

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Speaker 2: here in this case with Michael Pittman Junior. To some degree,

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Speaker 2: rate is based on everything that Bill just described. Is

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior worth paying twenty plus million dollars for

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Speaker 4: Well, here's here's the part of the discussion on the

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Speaker 4: the Colts to have a budget for him. I think

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Speaker 4: if the Colts just not asked him to within the

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Speaker 4: at this. Michael Pittman Junior in twenty twenty three had

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Speaker 4: twenty three receptions on RPOs on run pass options, That

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Speaker 4: But on those RPOs, the Colts are averaging five point

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Speaker 2: That's what the offense was like rust year, and.

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Speaker 4: Pitt talked about it. He said, we were the best

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Speaker 4: RPO offense in the NFL. That's what we had to

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Speaker 4: quite seen. And if you look at twenty twenty one

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Speaker 4: Michael Pittman Junior averaged ten point three yards average average

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Speaker 4: he was at twelve point three yards per reception that year.

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Speaker 4: This year, his numbers were obviously lower, but I wonder

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I liked about Pittman's game this

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Speaker 4: guess you could call him a possession receiver, and that's

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Speaker 4: what they asked him to do. But Bill, you brought

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Speaker 4: up those two plays, those run after the catch plays.

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Speaker 4: Pitt averaged four point eight yards after the catch per reception,

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Speaker 4: which was his second highest total of his career and

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Speaker 4: turning some of those plays into explosives. That's an important

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Speaker 4: aspect of his game that he also has in his toolbox.

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Speaker 4: That again, it was something we didn't really get to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he can do that at times. And

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Speaker 2: I'm just turning this into right into a discussion, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of that. This is just

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Speaker 2: you know, for for roundtable discussion. There's no doubt that

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior can do more of that. But I

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Speaker 2: him to be. I mean, yes, there's gonna be way

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. Absolutely, but the RPO game I still think

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It was a heavy part of the offense in Philly.

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Speaker 2: It was very prevalent last year with Gardner Minshew. So

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Speaker 2: I think this offense needs both to kind of bring

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Speaker 2: mean last year they had Pittman's contributions and still scored

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Speaker 2: That's that's what they have to target and marry those

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: And the other part about that is in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: going back that far, Pittman was targeted, fifteen point three

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Speaker 4: percent of his targets were twenty yards beyond the line

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage, which was that's not near the top of

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Speaker 2: Certainly more than what we saw last this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last year he was at eight point seven percent.

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Speaker 4: The three players below him are Dalton Schultz, Darren Waller

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Speaker 4: a picture of how he was used. But he I

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Speaker 4: think he has that in his toolbox. We just haven't

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you look at what pitt did

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Speaker 3: as you said, mate, And what they're trying to do

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Speaker 3: Pitt has done that in the past.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's double back to what we talked about

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Speaker 2: at the top here the franchise tag. The franchise tag

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Speaker 2: could be applied to Michael Pittman Junior on March fifth.

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Speaker 2: That's the deadline tag would guarantee Pittman plays for the

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Speaker 2: Now keep that in mind, it's projected around twenty one million.

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Speaker 2: I think more concretely twenty one point seven salary wise

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Speaker 2: As you said, JJ, the Colts, they haven't been in

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Speaker 2: What are the odds that this could be in play

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Speaker 4: You know, pitt talked in his end of the year

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Speaker 2: Course no, and Bill, the truth about this is, and

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I mean you have to go way back and

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Speaker 3: And if they can get that done and then work

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Speaker 2: All right, a lot of food for thought right there,

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Speaker 2: regarding Michael Pittman Jr. On our first installment of the

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Speaker 2: Free Agency Preview podcast, JJ Stangovitz, Bill Brooks. As we said,

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Speaker 2: coming up later this week, we'll put the spotlight on Gardner,

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Speaker 2: we'll discuss Kenny Moore, Grover Stewart, and Julian Blackman, among others.

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Speaker 2: And the Colts have some big decisions to make. We'll

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Speaker 2: weigh everything here on the football scales on the Free

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Speaker 2: Agency Preview podcasts, So fellas, enjoy the rest of your week.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again soon, rewrecking these conversations and these

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Speaker 2: topics regarding some heavy hitters within the Colts and their

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Speaker 2: free agency class. Heading into March thirteenth and the start

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Speaker 2: of the new League year again for JJ Bill Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor here on the Free Agent Preview podcasts

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