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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the gud

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Laurn LaRosa.

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Speaker 3: Feeling in for Jess while she's on maternity leaving.

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Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 2: Harry Champion. Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy. I just would like to say, you

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Speaker 4: guys need better customer service.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 4: So I came in? Well, first of all, I was

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Speaker 4: told they told me to come an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: Right, you was here an hour ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just real it was the time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was. She was sitting there for a hour.

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Speaker 3: You had to wait for an hour.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I was doing. That's crazy good correct.

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Speaker 1: Nobody said that didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: No, that definitely happened.

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Speaker 4: That definitely happened. Then I sat down and somebody's like,

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Speaker 4: do you need anything? I was like, yeah, I need

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Speaker 4: some coffee. And then I never and that somebody is

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Speaker 4: the person by the name of Brandon. Who's Brandon?

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Speaker 6: Brandon is a young man from Ghana who works and

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Speaker 6: he's a producer. He don't like black women. He likes

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Speaker 6: white woman.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so I could explain it.

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Speaker 4: So if I was white, I would have definitely probably.

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Speaker 1: Had Karen Champion. You'd have got your call, Karen Champion.

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Speaker 4: Karen would got the coffee. Carrien didn't get the coffee.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 4: La? You look great?

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: See you again again and.

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Speaker 1: Two lives back to back. You've bene told in this

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Speaker 1: studio that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: What's up with.

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Speaker 4: Why? Why? Why to stop your Julia, don't look and

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Speaker 4: he's stopping it right now. You fine, period, you fine?

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Speaker 3: Fine?

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Carry is the host of the necond podcast.

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Speaker 6: You're back for the fourth season on The Black Effect

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Speaker 6: iHeart Radio podcast Network, and this season is a little different, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: because you have the making of a rivalry podcast, Caitlyn

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Speaker 6: Clark versus Angelies.

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Speaker 1: Why are you putting the women against each other?

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Speaker 4: I knew you was gonna say that, Okay, So well,

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Speaker 4: first off, then here's the thing that I saw. I

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Speaker 4: call a friend of mine, a little short man, and

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Speaker 4: I go, hey, short man, I want to do this idea.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's great. I said, everybody thinks that

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Speaker 4: these two ladies don't like each other. And in the

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Speaker 4: way we work. We see the world through our own lens.

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Speaker 4: So if you're black, I'm rying with angel and if you're white,

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Speaker 4: I'm right when Kaitlyn, I don't care what anybody says.

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Speaker 4: I felt that as opposed to just letting these women

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Speaker 4: play ball, and I said, rivalry is not a bad thing,

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Speaker 4: and everybody comparing it to magic and bird and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: that was a good thing, right. It helped the NBA.

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why the finals were no longer delayed.

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Speaker 4: They were live, And I was like, this is a

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Speaker 4: good thing. The WNBA has always been great, but they

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Speaker 4: needed these supernovas to bring people to the WNBA to

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Speaker 4: pay attention to see how special they were. They already

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Speaker 4: had Asia, they already had all these great people, Candice

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Speaker 4: Briana Stewart. I can go down the list of all

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Speaker 4: these great players. But for whatever reasons, this storyline was

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Speaker 4: so compelling and I and my argument is this country

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Speaker 4: is just built on race. So if you have black

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Speaker 4: because you want to pick a side, and you want

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Speaker 4: to put all your tropes on whomever's the person you

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Speaker 4: decided to vote for. Or ride with I'm referring to

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Speaker 4: the election, and so my mind is, why don't we

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Speaker 4: great genius. And so what I found out by doing

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Speaker 4: this docu series is six parts. We have six episodes

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Speaker 4: that were doing in real time while the WNBA playoffs

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Speaker 4: I think we are I think we're doing it for

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Speaker 4: the culture. I think I'm learning a lot about how

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Speaker 4: that I had to really talk about what I felt

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Speaker 4: So what do you feel, like?

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Speaker 1: What have you learned?

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Speaker 6: Because I mean you already were all in, you very

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Speaker 6: educated on the subject, But what did you learn new

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Speaker 1: Like, you know what, I do root for Caitlyn as well.

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Speaker 4: Really, I like Kaitlyn. I think Caitlyn's a great I

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Speaker 4: think she's a baller. I think she just wants to

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Speaker 4: play what I do. What I don't like is how

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Speaker 4: some people in the media, some of my colleagues, are like,

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Speaker 4: how come she not, you know, denouncing racism, and how

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Speaker 4: come she's not? And I'm like, she will when she learns.

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Speaker 4: How long does it take a woman to find her

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Speaker 4: voice in this world? She grew up in Iowa, She's

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Speaker 4: twenty two years old. I'm not caping for but I'm like,

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Speaker 4: she didn't have the experience to speak on that. Remember

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Speaker 4: when Lebron wasn't speaking on Black Lives Matter and all

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Speaker 4: these other issues, and they held them accountable and he

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Speaker 4: finally said, Okay, I have something to say. You got

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Speaker 4: But I didn't like that. I also didn't like how

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Speaker 4: they treated Angel. Angel had the best moment of her life,

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Speaker 4: the best moment of her life. The crowning achievement is

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Speaker 4: to win a championship. And when she won this championship,

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Speaker 4: all these new fans and all these new analysts wouldn't

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Speaker 4: this vitrioll and hate and death threats, and all she

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Speaker 4: did was say, I'm about to get a ring. You

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Speaker 4: can't see me. The reality is is that they have

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Speaker 4: been whoever anybody wanted them to be before they walked

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Speaker 4: on that stage. Like, as a white woman, we already

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Speaker 4: is society. They come from two different worlds, they live

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Speaker 4: two different lives. They are who they are. Their talent

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Speaker 4: So angels gonna talk talk trash. Caitlin talks trash too,

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Speaker 4: just differently. And you ever remember let's talk about your

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Speaker 4: tire cowboys. You ever remember that time a long time ago, Bryant.

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Speaker 4: and he's yelling at Tony, and Tony was like, no, actually,

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Speaker 4: Now when Tom Brady would sit on the sideline and

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Speaker 4: throw his helmet and cuts everybody out. Yeah, Tom's really

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Speaker 4: frustrated with the gamesting what's going on. And we do that, me, media,

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Speaker 4: everybody does that, And so I am. I'm finding out

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Speaker 4: that I have my own bias, I have my own attitude.

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Speaker 4: I even cover the game differently, even.

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Speaker 1: With white tears.

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Speaker 4: Don't move you listen at all, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: But my point is we have to stop doing that,

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Speaker 4: like media has to stop doing that. I think the

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Speaker 4: way that the fans are watching this game, they shouldn't

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Speaker 4: do that. And I think what I'm finding out in

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Speaker 4: this podcast is that most of us don't like to

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Speaker 4: see women compete like athletes. Women can't be on the

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Speaker 4: court trash talking. We can't be in your face. But

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Speaker 4: it's quite all right to do it in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: Well, just really, Caitlyn and Angel, are they required to

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Speaker 6: talk about anything other than basketball. Do we need them

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Speaker 6: to do we need Kaitlyn or Angel to speak out

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Speaker 4: Do we need them to I don't know if we

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Speaker 4: in today, you don't have that luxury. I think sports,

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Speaker 4: politics and culture all intersect. That's what we're doing on

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Speaker 4: been happening. But now we have these two stars and

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Speaker 4: to talk about certain things, but you have to. You

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Speaker 4: I'm makeing up something right now. My point is is

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Speaker 4: with great responsibility comes great pressure and vice versa. You

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Speaker 2: What do you think about their first season, both both

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Speaker 4: I think Kaitlyn was I think she was not playing

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Speaker 4: well when she first started. I think there was a

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Speaker 4: I think she is a generational talent.

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Speaker 4: She came back better than ever. She took this team

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Speaker 4: I mean out the first round. But that's a remarkable turnaround.

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Speaker 4: She didn't do it alone. She had a Leah Boston

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be that. They rookie year. They answered

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Speaker 7: And especially and you said, in the world we live

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Speaker 6: Let's be clear, because you know they'll take this out

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Speaker 6: of context. It's not just the racism. It's the heckling. Right,

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Speaker 6: So it's the heckling, it's the people outside your hotel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you call bitch niggas all day, you know

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Speaker 4: It doesn't hit the same way, does it. No, it

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Speaker 3: You called you're a fragle maggot. Don't say that, guys,

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Speaker 5: It's a word.

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Speaker 4: That is that what Donnelle bard in another day?

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Speaker 2: As I was saying, I think if you put anybody

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Speaker 3: Matter who you are. So you're still a celebrity. You

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's still different because as a woman, there

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you don't want it on you.

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Speaker 7: But then if she says something, it's like she thinks

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Speaker 4: You're damned if you do, you damned if it's not

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Speaker 7: Gotta navigate, Like even in this room, there are certain

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Speaker 1: Nothing's a god that.

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Speaker 3: You can say confidently that we can't say.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, maybe the topic when you talk about and things,

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Speaker 1: I think we're going. We're taking a confidence somewhere that

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Speaker 6: All I'm simply saying it is all I'm simply saying

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Speaker 4: That's what she won to us. That's when she won

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Speaker 4: She has to invest in her own personal security. And

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Speaker 2: But that's if the salaries can support it as well.

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Speaker 1: YEA, you're right, but they're making money. But I do

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Speaker 4: It started with Britney Grinder. They had to they were

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Speaker 1: What is Lebron supposed to do? What is what he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Sign up for?

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Speaker 6: It's not right, it's right, but there's really no defense

440
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Speaker 6: against it, Like, what do you do somebody gets on

441
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Speaker 6: the platform and says something crazy about you.

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Speaker 1: You consume if you want.

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Speaker 3: But what do you mean.

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Speaker 4: I don't mind you talking bad about me. I don't

445
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Speaker 4: mind you heckling hackling me either, Right, But the reality

446
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Speaker 4: is is that this has been an issue for a

447
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Speaker 4: very long time and they've never addressed it.

448
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Speaker 6: The baby just left here, right, he said, what the

449
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Speaker 6: baby shot somebody because they came on his property. That

450
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Speaker 6: the guy wanted to perform.

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Speaker 1: For the baby.

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Speaker 6: That's the price of being the baby. My therapist told

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Speaker 6: me that a long time ago. My therapist said, you

454
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Speaker 6: can't have you know your your success without having your problems.

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Speaker 1: It just comes with it. Why I hate that. It's

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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 2: Charlamagne got beat up, pushed in the back of the head,

458
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Speaker 2: everybody laughed. Charlamagnet got got beat up again in front

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Speaker 2: of a.

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Speaker 1: And it beat inside of a bow day.

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Speaker 6: It's not true, but I beat the ship out that

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Speaker 6: young man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was young or old the

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Speaker 1: first time.

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Speaker 4: Mae, somebody they tried to jump you out. That's about

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Speaker 4: But nobody felt bad for everybody.

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Speaker 1: They should.

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Speaker 3: They should.

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Speaker 6: The guys the drugs do I beat the ship out

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Speaker 6: of them. The other one they pushed me in the

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Speaker 6: back of the head.

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Speaker 1: Nothing, I ran, he ran into the station.

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Speaker 4: But that was a different kind of that was just

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Speaker 4: what he was.

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Speaker 1: A bad guy. He was the bad guy self proclaimed.

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Speaker 4: That's apples an orgious basketball, But.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Was it a mistake? Is it a mistake for Angel

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Speaker 6: Reese to call herself the villain?

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Speaker 4: No? She well, she walked it back. She said, Look,

481
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Speaker 4: I've been trying to I've tried to own the narrative

482
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Speaker 4: and take this, but I refuse to take it. She

483
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Speaker 4: was like, I'm not built for this. Was everybody's not

484
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Speaker 4: built for that. And by the way, what black woman

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Speaker 4: isn't a villain when she's comfortable in her own skin

486
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Speaker 4: and speaking up against what's not right. Everybody makes black

487
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Speaker 4: women a villain when they're comfortable. You know this, I'm

488
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Speaker 4: not making this up. We're looking at Kamalas. She's smart,

489
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Speaker 4: she's intelligent, and all of a sudden, she's the back.

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Speaker 4: How is she a bad guy in a race? Is

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Speaker 4: a bad person in the race?

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Speaker 3: She's not me?

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Speaker 4: You pussy? How was she?

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Speaker 7: And Trump is like a total And that's what I'm

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Speaker 7: saying by I know that there's no defense to it,

496
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Speaker 7: but sometimes it's okay to if you decide to do

497
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Speaker 7: whatever you think is the defense, react to it because

498
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Speaker 7: you literally cannot win.

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Speaker 5: Because when you're a woman, you're the bad guy.

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Speaker 7: You don't get the like TOADD, you're the out here,

501
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Speaker 7: you're doing well, you're.

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Speaker 5: Speaking for yourself. We don't get that.

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Speaker 7: It's different for us. And I don't know why it's

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Speaker 7: like that, and I don't know if it's ever gonna change, but.

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Speaker 1: I get what you.

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Speaker 6: I think we're having two different conversations. I'm just talking

507
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Speaker 6: about when you are a successful person, this comes with it,

508
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Speaker 6: all of the bullshit, all of the talking ship harassment,

509
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Speaker 6: all of this.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and you and you and after a while,

511
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Speaker 4: when the beginning it hurts, right, don't care no more? Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 4: what I only day white man. Okay, I got it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: what I'm an angry black woman, Okay, I got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying about.

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Speaker 1: Get them online. One. I don't want to have this intervention.

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Speaker 4: Invention. My point is is that there will be a

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Speaker 4: narrative that follows you no matter what, and you take it. No,

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: You started why would you the first thing you.

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Speaker 4: Said, day black Man, I date black Man. I believe you,

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Speaker 4: thank you? You see how you see.

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Speaker 6: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: We talk about carry heard the w NBA played the game.

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Speaker 4: I did do that?

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Speaker 3: Show me the pop?

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Speaker 1: What's that young lady name?

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say because I did not. I'm

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Speaker 4: not gonna say.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting let me tell you. I'm sitting courtside, minding

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Speaker 4: my own business. Charlot Mane like you over there looking

532
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Speaker 4: six eight? How tall are you? What are you doing? It?

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Speaker 4: Just so happens one of the ladies tumbled from the

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas Aces in front of where I was sitting,

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Speaker 4: and I was just looking and it was sad.

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Speaker 6: You hit her head on Carrie's boot. Look had that

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Speaker 6: boot courtside? Carry over there sitting like a big old nigga,

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Speaker 6: legs open. You know what I'm saying, hands between the lever.

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Speaker 3: It takes for the liberty to win. I'm like, who

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Speaker 3: is carry.

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Speaker 4: Wanting to fight?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? But why was you sitting like this?

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Speaker 4: You have to why why carry that?

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Speaker 1: From Kanyak?

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Speaker 4: I did not have an Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: The first thing he came in to say. He was like,

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Speaker 3: look at Carrie she had.

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Speaker 1: She's sitting like a.

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Speaker 4: Nigg You got your legs up and you send like

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Speaker 4: a man. Who do you think he is? And I

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Speaker 4: was like wait everyone, no, no.

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Speaker 7: When I saw the picture, I was like, did Carry

553
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Speaker 7: has to play sport?

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Speaker 5: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 5: I was like, did she's playing basketball or something?

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Speaker 4: Because I was like, am I looking like a man? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Tell me?

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Speaker 4: I was First of all, I was in the zone.

560
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Speaker 4: I was in the zone. I was watching the game.

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Speaker 4: That's how people watch the game. And you're up here

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Speaker 4: like I look like a man. I was like, is

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Speaker 4: that roote?

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you can sit in a friend

565
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Speaker 3: talking bad about me all the time.

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Speaker 4: He was like, I was in the group chat. They

567
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Speaker 4: said you was fine. I said I heard she was

568
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Speaker 4: a man. I was just like, why do you do that?

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Speaker 1: What you said?

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Speaker 4: That? Not that? Not on this day. I will come

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Speaker 4: over there.

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Speaker 1: I heard her name Carl. Leave it alone.

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Speaker 6: I have a question, like Carry is an example of

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Speaker 6: what I what she's talking about, because it's like Carrie

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Speaker 6: walks in the room.

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Speaker 1: She just has a correct right.

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Speaker 6: It's not because she's just tall, it's just because she

578
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Speaker 6: really has a presence. I can see how that can

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Speaker 6: intimidate some people.

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Speaker 4: I and you know what I said, and make people uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: I know. I agree. I said, I feel it when

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Speaker 4: I feel it, and it's a it's not a cocky thing.

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Speaker 4: I just feel it. When I walk in the room,

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Speaker 4: people stop, they pay attention, they look, and it makes

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Speaker 4: people uncomfortable. I understand that, but it's just who I am.

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Speaker 4: It's my my level of comfort wherever I'm at. I'm

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Speaker 4: at home in my body wherever I'm at. And so

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Speaker 4: I get why you said that, and that's why he said,

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Speaker 4: are you six foot eight? And I'm like, no, I'm

590
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Speaker 4: just fite ten.

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Speaker 6: But it's not a size thing though, Like like when

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Speaker 6: Stephanie Mills walks in the room, you just feel it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel it and you either are comfortable with

595
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Speaker 4: it or you're not comfortable with it? You can relate, No,

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Speaker 4: she can't.

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Speaker 6: When did you get comfortable with it? At what age

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Speaker 6: did you get comfortable with it? Because because Stephanie said

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Speaker 6: she didn't get it, tell she was fifty.

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Speaker 4: Five, Oh wow, I probably say within probably when I

601
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Speaker 4: was like thirty five, I just knew But first of all,

602
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Speaker 4: I look, this does sound crazy, and y'all and you

603
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Speaker 4: and you, everybody in this room can relate to this.

604
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Speaker 4: I hope way you ever felt like you were just

605
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Speaker 4: special on set apart absolutely from seven years old. Seven

606
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: years old, I was like, oh, I'm different, and I

607
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: didn't know what that meant or felt like. And I've

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Speaker 4: just I've walked in that ever since until you realize, oh,

609
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: this is what that means. And people resent you for it,

610
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Speaker 4: people love you for it, people hate you for it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're dealing with. Caitlyn and Angel. They're

612
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Speaker 4: just different. And of course there are players in the league.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying anybody hates them. But you can't decide

614
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Speaker 4: who will be the super nova. You can't decide who's

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Speaker 4: going to be the person that carries us into a

616
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Speaker 4: different stratosphere. It just happens. It's something that is destined

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Speaker 4: it to what it is. You couldn't tell me Breakfast

618
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Speaker 4: Club would not be the voice of the people. And

619
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Speaker 4: then also elevate into more things like it just happens.

620
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Speaker 4: You were assigned. You were assigned, You were assigned. It

621
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Speaker 4: is what it is. And so once you realize that

622
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Speaker 4: you've already felt it. I felt it since I was

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Speaker 4: a kid, and I knew what it was, but I

624
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Speaker 4: was just like, Okay, what does this look like? What

625
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Speaker 4: am I going to do with it? And these two

626
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Speaker 4: ladies are learning to deal with that. They know they're assigned,

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Speaker 4: they know they're special, they know they set apart, and

628
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Speaker 4: they also know that people resent them because there are

629
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Speaker 4: the folks that were before them that actually laid the foundation,

630
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Speaker 4: the don State, Lisa Chryl Swoops, the canvas Parkers. The

631
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Speaker 4: less you can go down the list of women who

632
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Speaker 4: really put this league in its place and put it

633
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: put it literally on the map, but you can't assign

634
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Speaker 4: who's going to be the super nova to take us

635
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Speaker 4: to that next level. And it just so happens that

636
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Speaker 4: it's a woman by the name of Caitlyn Clark and

637
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Speaker 4: Angel Reese. And that story is so damn compelling. Black

638
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Speaker 4: versus white.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that story sells regardless.

640
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Speaker 2: I mean even in boxing, when you look at boxing

641
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Speaker 2: any when it's when it's race, I think I think

642
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Speaker 2: it's sales regardless.

643
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Speaker 3: People want to rep their race.

644
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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift and Beyonce we that's our next episode. Our

645
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Speaker 4: next episode is about the rivalry or the perceived rivalry

646
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Speaker 4: goes beyond sport. Find me any black and white version,

647
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Speaker 4: and people are going to compare because that's what people do,

648
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Speaker 4: and they have to tell you one is better than

649
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Speaker 4: the other. But both of those ladies were assigned. They're

650
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Speaker 4: special and set apart in their own world, powerful, but

651
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Speaker 4: people still want to put them in verses and want

652
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Speaker 4: to say one is better than the other.

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Speaker 6: Your lifelong Lakers fan, so you've seen the Lakers Celtics rivalry.

654
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Speaker 6: What makes this Caitlin Angel thing similar to Magic and

655
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Speaker 6: Bird outside of the race thing?

656
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Speaker 1: Like, just what is it?

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Speaker 4: Well, they don't play the same position, So I do

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Speaker 4: want to say that because I hear a lot of

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Speaker 4: players say they don't play the same position, So why

660
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: is there a rivalry. It's a rivalry because of right,

661
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: But it's a rivalry because well, and that was what

662
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: they were more, they were more equivalent. Caitlin right now

663
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: is all offense. She is spectacular and she's always going

664
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Speaker 4: to be more dynamic in the sense that offense gets

665
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: people in the stands, it makes people pay attention. She

666
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: is shooting from the logo and it's crazy, it's insane.

667
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: What she can do when she really gets in her zone.

668
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: And what Angel is doing, I think it's different. While

669
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: she's good on defense and she'll get our offensive game

670
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: together eventually, what she is doing, she's doing something that

671
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: we haven't seen, in my opinion, a w NBA player do,

672
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: or a black female athlete do, in a very long time.

673
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: She's getting a little to come to the games. Megdae

674
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: Stallion is talking about what she wants to do. She's

675
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: at the met Gala. She's living in the world. They're

676
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: rapping about her, akin to Drake rapping about Lebron. She

677
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: has She's done something that hasn't been done before and

678
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: she I don't even know if she's aware of it.

679
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: Even Serena, I love that people talked about that wasn't

680
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: happening with Lisa Leslie. Not that way, not in that way.

681
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: Like these are her people. She's kicking it with Megan,

682
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: she's taking away podcast like they are her people, they

683
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: are her friends. She has all the influence around, influencers

684
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: around her, and they want to be around her. We've

685
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: seen that happen. Athletes want to be ballers, and ballers

686
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: want to be athletes. We've only seen that with men.

687
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 4: We haven't seen that with women, especially not a black woman. Serena.

688
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: I'll give her because she was popular and she had

689
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: a lot of people, but it was tennis and she

690
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: and she did bring all the stars, so look you

691
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: get you know, apples and oranges. She did bring a

692
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: lot of stars to the game. But I truly, honestly

693
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: believe for a w NBA player, a black woman, to

694
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: have this effect in the culture. She is the culture.

695
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: She's representing the culture. She girl, she'd a high girl.

696
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 6: You can't she got it. She's on assignment.

697
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 7: I had to ask them when it happened. Would love

698
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 7: to hear what you had to say about it. Like

699
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 7: when she had to sit out for the rest of

700
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Speaker 7: the season, does that affect because I mean she has

701
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 7: all that, but like she's not playing the game for

702
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 7: the rest of the season, so that does that affect

703
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 7: what she was doing?

704
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: Or like what will happen moving forward?

705
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 4: No, she they have a truncated season. Anyway, I think

706
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: fat is she would have continued to play, maybe the

707
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: Chicago Sky would have made it to the playoffs. But

708
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: she made a smart decision in my in my opinion,

709
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: which is to take care of herself now so she

710
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: can come back stronger than ever. It doesn't affect her,

711
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 4: it did affect the rookie race in some capacity. I

712
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: thought Kaylen Clark was going to be Rookie of the

713
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: Year anyway. I just thought she was.

714
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: Beau know that Reese had a great first half. Yeah,

715
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: I just think Kaitlyn's first half.

716
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: Was kind of it was, but it balanced out because one,

717
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: not only did she take her team to the playoffs

718
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: that hadn't been in like ten years, Caitlyn she requires

719
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: something more. You can't really defend a shot like when

720
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: they were like triple teaming her and double teaming her.

721
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 4: She figured it out. She just figured it out. And that,

722
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: to me, for a rookie is really special because how

723
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: many times have we heard about rookies in the NBA

724
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: They're gonna be it, They're gonna be how many rookies

725
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: have been it? When you start looking at these rookies

726
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: and you're like, who's who's really it? Lebron right after Lebron,

727
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: who was a rookie that was it? Name one after Lebron,

728
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 4: who lived all the hype after.

729
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: After Lebron, nobody need the.

730
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: Number one pick who lived up to all the hype

731
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Speaker 4: after Lebron.

732
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Speaker 1: Nobody, you don't look at me.

733
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't know.

734
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Speaker 1: It took them.

735
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 4: It takes them a couple of years to figure it out.

736
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: It's a different league. But if we're just doing athletes

737
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: on athletes, I'm just saying, let's talk about it. It's

738
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: a different league. Obviously different requirements, but it look but

739
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: it took a minute. Everybody thought Zion was gonna be it.

740
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: What about Ion was victim?

741
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: Kind of still special, average, still special, but he wouldn't

742
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: given everybody the business. Yeah, and that's why I was

743
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: mad when people were like, they're jealous of her, and

744
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: we heard all these the man the men explaining that

745
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: the women were jealous of Kaitlyn. I was like, but

746
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: what about when everybody was going to Lebron's head? When

747
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: you are, when you are the most sought after, the

748
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: most talked about, I have to Okay, well, welcome to

749
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 4: the league. Let me show you what this is. Kennas

750
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: Parker her We always give this, always give this example.

751
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: Cannas Parker's rookie year. She got a two piece. They

752
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: had her on the ground. They were beating her, like

753
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: literally trying to beat her up. And it was benches.

754
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: Everybody got off the benches, Lisa Leslie got pushed down.

755
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: No one ever talked about it. And then you're talking

756
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: about Kaitlyn Clark and you're like, oh, they poked her

757
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: in the eye, they stabbed her in the eye. Oh

758
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: they they're just so mean to her. What game have

759
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: you been watching? These ladies? Ball a ball a ball

760
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: And you even said that you were watching. You were like,

761
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: this game is good.

762
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I watched it on television, but going

763
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Speaker 1: to the Liberty.

764
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Speaker 6: And A game, it was like, Wow, it's a whole

765
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 6: new thing. I enjoyed it thoroughly, like in a lot

766
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 6: of ways more than the men's.

767
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: Game a lot of ways because because.

768
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Speaker 1: They're so fundamentally sound that.

769
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: They know the basics and they and everyone said, oh,

770
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: they don't dunk, and they and then so when Caitlyn

771
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: started to shoot, like Steph, you didn't have that excuse

772
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: anymore to say you weren't watching the game.

773
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Speaker 1: And that's the new dunk. The logo three is the

774
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: new dunk anyway, So what it is?

775
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: Steph? I used to say this and still believe the

776
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: reason why Steph Curry is the most impactful player the

777
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: NBA has ever seen is because he made everybody believe.

778
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: He made the average kid in the backyard shoots from

779
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Speaker 4: the logo believe that they could do it. I don't

780
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: have to be six foot eight, I don't have to

781
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: be built like Lebron. I don't have to dunk. If

782
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: I can choot from here, I can be like Steph.

783
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: That is why people love Kaylyn Clark's game, because they believe, oh,

784
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: I can do that. Little girls are at home watching.

785
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: I'm sitting next to this little girl right now. This

786
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: little girl at the game last the other night was like,

787
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: oh wow, like so like and you know why she's

788
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: watching because when she saw Kayln Clark out there, she

789
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: could relate. She was like, because I don't know if

790
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: I'm ever gonna be Asia Wilson's height. But and by

791
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: the way, everyone's tall. I mean Steph is tall, Caitlyn's tall.

792
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: But they don't feel unattainable. It feels like it's not aspirational.

793
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: It's like, I can do that, not six eight six. Correct.

794
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: I don't like how you looked at me just now.

795
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: You said everybody's tall. You started to say except you,

796
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 6: But do you?

797
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: I saw you?

798
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: How tall are you five four far for I'm showing

799
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: what I said that to the I told you you're

800
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: starting to get hips. I told you that you got

801
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 4: you he got you got hips for I said that

802
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: to you. Look at your hips and big.

803
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: Beauty you are.

804
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 4: It's crazy, not even crazy crazy.

805
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: If Caitlyn and Angel are Magic and Bird, who's gonna

806
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 6: be Jordan?

807
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: If I have to say who Jordan is right now

808
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: and she's so humble with it, well we don't know

809
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: yet she could be, but right now talking about Asia Wilson,

810
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: if I had to talk about who, meaning like Asia

811
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: is a guaranteed bucket, I know, I know they may

812
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: not win this series as we know, and we're watching

813
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: their down to nothing. But Asian to me is she

814
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: does it all. She does it all. She's in the paint,

815
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: she's defense, she's all. She's literally she's a leader on

816
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: that court. She requires more. I'm watching. I'm like, if

817
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: you were a man, we'd be talking about this more.

818
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 6: Greatest w NBA player that's playing today. You know, I

819
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 6: love Agan Wilson. I think she's more like Tim Duncan

820
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 6: though why just because she's great on both ends of

821
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 6: the court right and even though her personality is really big. Right,

822
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about it, I'm talking about the way

823
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 6: they play. For whatever reason, you don't appreciate that type

824
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 6: of game. She's so fundamentally sound, dominates on both sides

825
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 6: of the court. You know she's gonna show up every game,

826
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: but it just feels more Tim Duncans.

827
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan is the greatest part for the ball time.

828
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, he is. But I feel like there's something

829
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: more special about her. I but to the point where

830
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: Jorge Why.

831
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Speaker 1: We don't think Duncan is special because he beat the Lakers,

832
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: That's why.

833
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: No, And because George Duncan is phenomenal for two things, right,

834
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: And we got to keep it a buck. You played

835
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: for the Spurs, very humble team, very quiet team. He's

836
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: a quiet, humble man. You need to you need to

837
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: have your tongue hanging out your mouth. You need to

838
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: talk a little shit. Yeah, that's why we love Jordan.

839
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: Jordan gave us flash, she gave us a show. I

840
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: need to be entertained if I'm gonna watch basketball. I'm

841
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: not saying that doesn't mean Tim Duncan isn't that great.

842
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: But that's why people forget, That's why they forget about Kareem.

843
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: They forget about the greatest man ever who created this guy.

844
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: They forget about Kareem in a lot of ways. Absolutely,

845
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: And you remember Magic because he was Showtime. The Lakers

846
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: created Showtime. That's why you remember Magic over and Magic

847
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: is one of your favorite players. Why do we love

848
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: Kobe because Kobe was like we knew he was a

849
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: dog and he didn't care about nobody. You love that.

850
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: We need both and that, which is unfortunate because it

851
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: goes back to my point. Age has that trash talk

852
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: in her. She got that dog in her. But we

853
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: don't allow women to play sports like men play sports.

854
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 4: We don't allow women. We don't consume women the way

855
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: we consume men. When it comes to sports.

856
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: Asia and Donna the reason I started watching women's basketball.

857
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: Yea, Asia is to me the greatest to me, and

858
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: that and that and that and that says a lot

859
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: she and she's so humble with it though that's why

860
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: we're not paying it. She's so humble with it and that,

861
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, she's the She's the greatest. I

862
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: don't know what juju will be. I don't want to

863
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: put that on her. I think Juju's Juju Watkins is

864
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: gonna I think she's gonna be something super special. I

865
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: think this. I think this class Page Beckers who's at Yukon,

866
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: I think she's gonna be special. What Page is gonna

867
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: do because she has a black stepmother. What she is

868
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 4: going to do is be able to kill this narrative

869
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: of black versus white. Because when she got up at

870
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: the SP's and said, I just want to give a

871
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: special shout out to black women. To me, I understood

872
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: that she knew her assignment. She sees that sometimes these

873
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: black women in this sport have been ignored. Look, seventy

874
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: five percent are lbgt QIA. You can't market that to

875
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: Middle America. So that's why it was so hard for

876
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: the WNBA to take off. So then you have this,

877
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: this this white Catholic woman who comes in from Iowa,

878
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: and it felt more comfortable to watch for the masses

879
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: and I would look seventy I think I'm back and forth.

880
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: Regardless of what the number is, the majority is and

881
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: it's hard to market that to a country that doesn't

882
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: want to deal with that. Right, it's hard to market that,

883
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: and not to me, but for them, it was hard

884
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 4: and This is where two things where the w NBA

885
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: needs to embrace it. They need to embrace who these

886
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: women are, what their sexuality is, how they live their lives.

887
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: They also need to get them some security. And they

888
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: can't make one person be the main person because that

889
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: causes resentment and strife, and so they need to really

890
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: this league is growing overnight and the w NBA needs

891
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: to figure it out quickly.

892
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: It's growing so fat.

893
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 6: I mean, think about last year, not the WNBA, but

894
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 6: the Women's college basketball NCAA Finals between Iowa and South Carolina.

895
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: Nineteen someone million people watch.

896
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: More than the men. They didn't they didn't expect.

897
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: They expect they heard of And at the time when

898
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: when Angel Reese beat Iowa and LSU beat Iowa, it

899
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: was nine point nine million people at the time, that

900
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: was the largest thing I'd ever seen. And and not

901
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: for nothing. You know, Camlin Clark, they had this exhibition

902
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: game her senior year, going into her senior year, they

903
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: played basketball in a football and at football stadium. Fifty

904
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: five thousand people showed up to watch to play basketball.

905
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: Fifty five thousand people showed up to watch women play sports.

906
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 4: That's crazy, it's it's I mean, we're in a different

907
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: We're in a different world right now. By the time

908
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: your children are ready to go pro and play and play,

909
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: and your girls are ready to play, they gotta make money.

910
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you got phenomenally Like you said, you got

911
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 6: Page coming, you got Juju coming, you got all these

912
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 6: crooks at Iowa State, you got Malaysia for a whilely

913
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 6: at Talien.

914
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: She's she's special, beast, a beast. There are so many

915
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: great players and we're and they've been there. The product

916
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: has already always been there. We just now started paying attention.

917
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: We just started that. So it's something special and everybody

918
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: watches women's sports. That's not just cliche. Shout out to

919
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: my girl, just Sein Brown, who came up with that.

920
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: So what do you see them NBA five years from now?

921
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: I see I see more money. I see it competing

922
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: in a real way with the NBA. I say that

923
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: only because of those two women in that storyline. The

924
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: storyline will be will be a trope for another couple

925
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: of years because it's interesting and people are compelled to

926
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 4: pay attention to it. And you love to pick a side.

927
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: But I also know that on Football Sunday, when Caitlin

928
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: Clark was playing in the playoffs on a football Sunday.

929
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 4: Her game against the Connecticut Son literally average one point

930
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: two million viewers on a football Sunday. You mean to

931
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: tell me people weren't watching football. They went to turn

932
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: to watch women's basketball, not men's basketball. A playoff game,

933
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: the first round. It's it's it's it's a wrap. This

934
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: is this is the future. So so be prepared, and

935
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: anybody listening, make sure your daughter can play sports, because

936
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: she gonna take care of y'all. It'll be the daughter

937
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: with who's buying a house. And we'll hear those stories. Well,

938
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: hear the story I bought my mama house, I bought

939
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: my mama car. Through school, I went back to I

940
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: went back to my favorite high school, and I gave

941
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: everybody scholarships. The stories that we hear and see will

942
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: be for for for men. For the men will be

943
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: the stories that we hear and see for the women.

944
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: These these rappers will be talking about these women. These

945
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: women will have big, major, major deals when it comes

946
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: to marketing. They won't be sitting in the back. And

947
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 4: it won't be just because they are cute. It will

948
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 4: be because I'm old enough to remember five years ago.

949
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 4: When they talked about women, it was always who's the hottest.

950
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: When they talk about women in sports, it was who's

951
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: the hottest. It was never who was the best on

952
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: the courter, who was the best playing tennis? It was

953
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: like who look good? Serena made all that attention, although

954
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 4: she was great. But the catsuit, we all remember that catsuit,

955
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: that black catsuit. We only sexualized.

956
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: I used to have that picture hanging up in it.

957
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: Remember when she was because she was she had she

958
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 6: was hitting there was I had an action shot where

959
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 6: she had the tennis racket and she was about to

960
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: hit the ball.

961
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: I used to have it hanging up, hanging up she

962
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: was about to hit the ball.

963
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: No, I hadn't hanging up in why Serena was amazing?

964
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 6: I had the top five list it was remember but

965
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 6: it was Serena, Patti LaBelle, Kelly Roling, Okay, Jennifer low Pezant,

966
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 6: Stacy dash my point.

967
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: The hottest, the hottest. That's all they used to be.

968
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: They were sexualized and thought they were listen, listen. He

969
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: would like, day, I love that, I love oh, I

970
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: love the way she hit the ball. Soon in the

971
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: service crazy it was the first the immediate thought is

972
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: that she's bad. She's bad, bad, and that's fine because

973
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: that's how men see women. I understand that. But soon

974
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: it'll be like, what's her game?

975
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: Like?

976
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: I promise you this conversation about what they look like

977
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: will always still be there because men are men. But

978
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: the reality is the skill set will be the first thing.

979
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: When you think about Caitlin Clark. You're not looking at

980
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: her like, are you bad? You're not thinking that at all.

981
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 5: You think Kaylen Clark's age thing.

982
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, if you ever know me that you try

983
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: to do a.

984
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 4: White woman, Yeah, that's what said.

985
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 5: Absolutely not Now you don't like white women.

986
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 6: Now, don't you can't even anybody gonna believe that one.

987
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 6: You can say that all day. Ain't nobody even gonna

988
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 6: believe that.

989
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 7: Okay, she loves you, she loves Travis Kelsey.

990
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: She had Travis Kelsey at her. I used to and

991
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: califlay exactly.

992
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: So you try to throw that one on me and

993
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 5: it back fire.

994
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: White man would have been yeah, but no, Travis. Everybody

995
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: gets a Travis thing. We don't not anymore, but everybody

996
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: gets the Travis because he has swag. Swag. It wasn't

997
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: not that he was attractive.

998
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 5: He just has I'm confused now what he had because

999
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 5: it went away so fast.

1000
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: White love him. She want to love the jack so bad.

1001
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: Little just now Edge you like white Man too?

1002
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: No, I don't, I don't, I mean I don't.

1003
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, no fans White Man.

1004
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: She's single.

1005
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: Oh I was single last time you was here.

1006
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: But you you got some booze now, right, So what

1007
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: are the dms like?

1008
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: Now?

1009
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: Are they worthy? Because I want to give you some advice.

1010
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 7: I feel like even if they it's a little hard

1011
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 7: to navigate sometimes because like, where did you come from?

1012
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: And why?

1013
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1014
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 5: Sometimes there's a there's a lot of yeah, there's no cheer.

1015
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I could tell that in the conversation because

1016
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 7: it'll go from you know, like that they'll bring the

1017
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 7: jokes from the show into the d M and all that,

1018
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 7: and then it'll go to oh because jokes the single,

1019
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 7: it'll be like, oh, single, leave you alone, the ones

1020
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 7: that's world saises.

1021
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 5: Don't bring that up because I know.

1022
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: You don't shave on your arms.

1023
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: One on one arm pitch. She came and hit one

1024
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: day and had hair on the one arm pit. It

1025
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: was crazy, carry it was insane. Yeah, that's when.

1026
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: I was moving and grooving. I'm not you know, I'm

1027
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 5: not worried about anything, but you know something that.

1028
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, First of all, my advice would be have a

1029
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: little fun. Try try try to go with that that like,

1030
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: you know, that's that've been on my list. I've been

1031
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: on my hit list.

1032
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: You've been having fun for a long time.

1033
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: First of all, m v no, I have not have fun.

1034
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: But you know, don't don't go too crazy. Not too

1035
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: crazy because they'll put your business in the street's business.

1036
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: They work with women.

1037
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: They are they'll put your business in and they lie.

1038
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 4: They lie man, y'all lie, y'all, stay lying on y'all.

1039
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: You can't wait to say. They hit Lauren a little

1040
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: hand on one, but was appreciate.

1041
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 6: Make sure some ve to the making of a rivalry

1042
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 6: podcast Caitlyn Clark Brusus injuries on the blackpeck Ieart Radio

1043
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 6: podcast network. It will be a documentary soon, documentary audio

1044
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 6: documentary now.

1045
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 4: But we put it out there.

1046
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: And are you stay in New York? You want come

1047
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: up here once a year?

1048
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: I can? I try to come All the time I've

1049
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 4: been trying to get this one. I'll be like, okay,

1050
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: let me call it Eddie again. Damn the white white can.

1051
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Come up anything you want to. Very busy, you carry.

1052
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: On CNN and all kinds of things booked and busy.

1053
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: But I'll be back. I love talking about it's very comfortable.

1054
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody who's listening, please go pay attention

1055
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: to this. I'm seriously just as the docuseries a special.

1056
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of it. Like I've done a lot

1057
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: of stuff, this is one I'm loud of. I'm really

1058
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: really proud of it because we talk about everything and

1059
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: it's just beautiful. Y'all beautiful. Thank you for supporting.

1060
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: You have your coffee next time to Yeah, I know.

1061
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: Shout out to Brandon who didn't get it.

1062
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: He loves white and that's a black man that looks

1063
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: white women. It's Carrie Champion.

1064
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club.

1065
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: Good morning, wake up in the morning. Breakfast Club.