WEBVTT - 2025 NFL Combine Preview + Bill Belichick Doubted Fred Smoot? | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.760 On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we're talking combine 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.160 to attend or not to attend? 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.680 That is the question, is the question, and we're going 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:10.440 to tell you how to spot a commander. It's a secret. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:11.360 Makes you stay tuned for that. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.240 And then we've got friend's interview stories with a bunch 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.000 of iconic NFL head coaches. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.320 Be a Bailichick like Jod groomed like everybody. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:27.040 It all starts right now. Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.840 I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth and Santana Moosa 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.720 and as all it is I and as always represented 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.599 by cognitive technology, Secure today, Shape tomorrow. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.199 And just a reminder, we got a mailback episode coming up. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:40.240 And you want to leave a question, make sure you 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.400 leave it at that hawk outside at gmail dot com. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.080 We'll try to leave something in the description so you 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.159 can see what the email looks like. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:47.800 I'm always a big got to see it. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.519 Yeah, you know, I'm dyslexic, so I got to see 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.199 the word written now and then wrong with that hawk 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.159 outside of gmail dot com. The hawk is starting to 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:53.920 leave and started. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.360 Getting as Yeah, because once it's not warming up, it's 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:58.920 something brewing. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:01.840 Last last week yeah. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.120 It was brick. Yeah, yeah, it was very cool now 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.000 and now is in its fifties. In the fifties, what 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.679 do you think something something come on one. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.000 Day about football players. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.440 I say, it's two jobs we can walk into right 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.720 at the football and it's being a doctor. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.800 We know everybody, you know, we know how to repair body, and. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:24.440 We know the weather. We can smell rain come, I'm telling. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.559 You, and we know scientifically warm front, cold front. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.520 Yeah, you know, you know when it's when it gets 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.720 warm in an area where it's normally cold in the 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.360 time of the year, when it's normally cold. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.200 It's the calm before the store. So that's it. I 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.880 learned that being in Florida, boys, so. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.120 You know in Florida that's one hundred percent that happens 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.399 all the time. So we just we're gonna do that 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.040 mail bag episode we've been talking about for a couple 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.680 of weeks. Now, make sure you leave your questions there. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.120 We can't do it this week, why because it's the 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.920 NFL combine week, and so I think this is a 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.760 good week to kind of do a little out of 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.960 cleve you a little bit, kind of recapped Tennant and 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.639 Fred's experiences go to the combine. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.360 It wasn't school enough to go congrats. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.880 Yes, And so we're gonna start off our first second 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.680 with risk it for the biscuit attending the combine. This 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.720 is presented by marsh McLennon Agency, your partner and risk 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.880 in people's strategies. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.040 So let's start with the highest level. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.000 Concept, right, The easiest thing to talk about is what 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.720 is the importance of the combine? And just again this 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.960 is kind of just your first take. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.840 What I always thought that the most important part of 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.400 us attending the combine is one getting I guess having 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.519 the privilege to attend. To me, I think that was 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.480 the first and foreman. It's like if you if you 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.760 got that call in that inviting saying that, hey you 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.600 want the guys we want to see. To me, that 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.880 was the most important thing. Then then two as a 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.959 player was what we want for the player. I thought 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:53.160 the interviews was more important than any workout. The interviews 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.320 and the measurements like wining in getting your whole measurements, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.160 all that stuff to me was more important than me 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.640 doing anything on that field, because I feel like if 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.760 you honestly went out there and did your thing for 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:05.840 the last few years. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.200 They have enough tape. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.360 Now, Yes, they want to see you compete against all 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.600 these other guys, but you don't necessarily have to go 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.799 out there and do it while you up there. Yes, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.680 And I'm not saying that we was the creators. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.880 I was gonna say because like I remember last year, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.520 were telling a story about how you were doing your 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.640 way in and the guy was trying to like he 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.160 was trying to like push you to do your forty. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:26.720 To me. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.079 But I do think I do think that you bring 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.919 up a great point like now with the pro day, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.160 especially if you're like a bigger recruit or a bigger prospect, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.040 you can go do it in an environment that you know, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.800 like in your own bed. I think that's something fans 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.920 maybe don't understand. They're why is this guy doing it's forty. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.680 It's like you like so I don't know how it 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:44.800 was at New Guys, but like when you go to 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.040 the combine now, like they get you up at like 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.080 six thirty am to do medicals, to go do interviews. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.000 Speaking of that, this is what I've always felt was 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.520 unfair about to come by. They fly us singing, and 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.840 that first day is all medical. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.960 It's it's and when he says all medical, like anything 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.360 you've any injury you've had, I got to hang now 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:04.080 they'll take you. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.120 You get an MRI. Yes, and so you're in a 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:06.720 hospital with. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.120 A bone, marrow man everything. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.440 And I asked myself, like, while I was there, do 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.080 you actually get the top performance from a guy that 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.479 you just took three packs of blood from and you 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.960 want me to get up the next day and you're 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.720 gonna give me some chocolate and tell me to run 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:26.040 a forty twenty five as many times? So I always 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.160 felt like, because everything starts with the medical, That's why 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.559 I think the medical is so important is you've seen 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.719 us play, but sometimes. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.919 We don't even know it's something wrong with us. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.080 So to get us there for the first day and 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.640 it all to be medical, the second day really all 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.640 to be physical, and the third day all to be mental. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.680 And it is crazy, like it's so comprehensive. Guys have 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.640 been diagnosed with cancer, blood disorders, part defects. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.359 Coming out of this thing. It is extremely concible. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.960 I think one of the things too, that I kind 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.839 of took in of doing all that stuff, they was 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.720 honestly hit. They was actually saying, who can go through this? 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.520 And be prepared to get up tomorrow and do what 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.840 they have to do get their job. So they're testing you. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.640 You're getting tested while you're getting tested. You see what 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:10.920 I'm saying. Why you being tested? 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.640 But as a guy who coaches like forties and coaches 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.719 vertical jumps, and I work with a facility like in 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.520 the off season, you know it's out in California. They 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.400 do a great job getting guys ready. Is the one 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.320 thing that's like from that perspective is I don't want 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.480 my guy going out there and running a forty when 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:26.640 he's been up all night. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.880 Right. Yes, I remember there was one night I was 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.160 walking around the common I was meeting up. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.000 With a guy like the coach, the forty coach. I 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.640 met up with him and it was like ten thirty 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.880 and he was doing forty prep with guys for the 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.719 next day at ten thirty and I'm like, they should 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.520 be in bed. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.040 But they just they're like, I can't go to bed. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.240 It's like it was even more they couldn't go to 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.039 bed because they had a they had interview at eleven, yes, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.720 and I was just like, this is not fair to 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.919 the guys. If you want the best performance now, I 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.560 understand you want the guys to compete to all that. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.919 People usually want a fast of forty cool. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.279 It's your turf, man, it's your bed, it's your food. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.839 And you just ain't get no blood today before Like 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.160 you're you ain't eve nervous. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:04.960 Think about this. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.720 You played your whole life playing football. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.360 You have put up enormous status, so you wouldn't even 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.120 be here right and now everything comes down to you 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.599 putting your hand on his line. And if I run 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.479 a bad forty, that just dropped me. Like so it's like, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.280 damn if I don't, damn that if I do. But 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.719 also this was another thing medically that I said because 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.360 Adrian Wilson, our classmates say dead Arizona. I'm behind him 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.920 in the dB line. You remember we have to walk 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.800 on stage and I little tight. I have boxes over there. Sure, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.040 And they get up there and they say Adrian Wilson 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.159 you know he had to you know, cun around and 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:49.600 they call out his injuries to pick told me by 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.960 the time they finished talking to him, I mean saying 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.040 his stuff about Loud, I was like, is he gonna 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.000 make a player and we know what type of career 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.560 he had. Then I get up there and I'm way 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.360 skinny to him. I ain't never had injury in college. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.120 I never missed the game, never anything. But now I 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.000 got to turn around all these general managers in there, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.520 Fridge smood six feet one seventy five Missipi State, and 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.400 it's just this glorified cattle call. It's a total cattle call. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.800 And that's why I was always had mixed emotions about it. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.720 And it's so weird because they take those they take 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.640 pictures of you, they take a front facing and a side. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.760 Facing, and then when you're watching. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.040 So when I was playing, I'd always go watch like 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.920 the tight Ends and watch the combine and you know, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.760 just kind of for fun. And the video that they 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.080 have starts with that picture. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.080 Yes, it starts with them. I hate it. And so 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.880 it's everyone sees, yea, you know what he's not calling 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.160 to Tom Braden. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.560 And not only that, man, I mean you find out. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.240 I mean we all knew it's a lot of characters. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.960 We got one here with us, but in that line, 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.400 it's got you got hecklers, you got guys that's talking 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.400 like a chand was near me and I'm like, bro, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.080 this dude. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.160 He won't stop talking. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.200 Johnson, Chad Johnson, he wouldn't stop talking. And I'm like, boy, like, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.920 this is the time for us to be SI And 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.160 I'm like, and that's another thing when you have so 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.680 many guys, because you got to think about it too, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.200 because we came from an era when everybody didn't have 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:09.680 a Pro Day. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.320 You had to have. It was a privilege to have 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:12.160 a program. Yeah. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.880 So, like I was saying, before I even you know, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.480 got cut off, I was saying, I'm not sure we 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.600 was one of the teams that set the bar for 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.160 Pro Days, but I do believe that Miami at one 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.560 point in time had so many guys leaving at one 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.880 time they just auto Maggan knew like, oh yeah, I 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.920 got to stop were going there, you know what I mean. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.120 So we always took. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.040 Pride in saying, hey, yeah far as the teams, you know, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.440 all the teams knew that Miami guys ain't coming here 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.120 to do nothing, you know, and they don't get mad 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:36.680 at them for that. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.280 But also there was guys that was locally. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.000 That probably played off, you know, how to stayed in college, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.920 but they from Miami and they was like, bro were 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:45.440 coming down there. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.400 You know, we don't work with y'all because. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.240 All the schools, all the teams, all thirty plus teams 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:51.720 are coming there to watch you guys. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.719 So I've always took it. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.000 I never took it for granted when we was there, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.640 even though they did all the whole having us up 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.640 all night. But I feel like we were so prepared 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.720 mentally from the coaching staff that we had what they're 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.760 gonna do, because all of them was x NFL coach. Yeah, Miami, 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.360 we had Bush Davis and Butch Davis came from the Cowboys, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.120 and most of his staff was you know, you know 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.079 throughout the league. They told us way ahead of time 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.800 what's to be expected. And at the end of the day, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.520 the one thing that we're gonna do is put a 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.880 show on at home. So we had that confidence knowing that, look, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.240 this is our privilege. We played the kind of football 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:27.840 that they want to see, so they gonna come watch 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.760 us at home. So that's why I said, you know, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.000 when we went there, a lot of stuff went on, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.840 but I was I had to ease mind because I understood, like, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.640 I'm coming here to meet with these guys, I'm coming 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.560 here to get these measurements out. I'm gonna come be professional, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.240 and then you're gonna see what you want to see. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.920 This basically the crew. I came in there. I was 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.640 not coming to work out, like I let them know. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.600 I came in and did all my interviews. I even 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.440 remember inside the interviews they did the bean bag tesses 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.720 where they're throwing stuff over your should just to see 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.320 your periview, like all kind of little mind games, with 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.960 the New York Giants having the biggest written tests out 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:04.520 of everybody. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.280 Really, it was fifty two hundred questions. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:07.679 Was it? 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.160 Was it the not the Wonderling, but it was the 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.920 every team has a personal test. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.199 Do you remember some of the questions from it? 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.280 Or I mean it was well, the questions were to 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.959 me all over the place. It was no strategy of 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:21.560 what they tried. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.680 Was it kind of like the wonder Lick or was 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:24.160 it it was. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.880 Kind of like the Wonder li with their own version, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.320 but it was New York Giants. I think the New 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.679 York they trying to not only tests your IQ, they 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.880 try to see where you at when it comes to 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:34.640 city life. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.120 So they asked a couple of urban questions. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:37.960 This is that. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.480 So it was the longest out of the test and 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:41.720 the longest out of the endinge. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.640 So you did that for your they waste I feel 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.439 like that's a waste of time. It like, isn't that 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.520 the time where they like so for interviews, like they 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:49.840 get you in a room, they have a form onna 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.079 of view and they have informatter view. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.040 So enter informa interview is like fifteen minutes. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.760 You like have a couple of coffees and down it's hey, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.679 what's up, I'm so and so and they just kind 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.080 of talked through a form ont of you is something 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.200 they have to declare and so it's a block of time. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.920 I think it's about forty that time. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.920 They wanted you to come to with certain rooms you 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.400 certain meetings. You went, then you actually got a package. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.840 You got your package they or not yet they said 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:14.600 till you finished. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 They sitting in there watching you. It feels like a 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:17.760 waste of time. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.640 It's the way of time. I was with a fly 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.520 if you were great me from that boy. It was 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.040 a wrap that boy there. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.719 So I went in there and I took I took 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:34.840 a serious. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.880 But the interviews ready to go. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.600 The interviews with the camera sites just like our camera 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.120 sine and the coach and the gym and the on 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.599 either side, on either side, And now they're asking you 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.920 about any discrepancies that came up on your record. They're 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.520 gonna ask you about anything that happened on campus. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:54.960 Now they're gonna ask you. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:01.200 Fred Smooth, what happened September twelfth, teen ninety nine. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.120 I was at a party. But you know, it's crazy 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:09.360 that you bring that up, because that's the first thing 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.080 I had in mind that they gonna ask me about 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.720 the whole bar incident. My freshman year when I was 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.200 a walk on, never asked me, And that tells me 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.720 that when you get some expunge, you get some expunge. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.959 So I was in there so nervous to tell this story, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.080 and I'm sitting like damn if adding about his barns 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.080 because I was wrong and every bit of it, Like 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.840 I mean, I ran, I ran to So I'm saying 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.640 to myself like, well, damn, I ran to the fight. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.440 How I'm going to work just to make it seem 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.160 like I didn't. But at the same time, too, they 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.800 would looked at it, and you're a college student. You 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.640 a guy that's trying to help your other guys. You 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.840 know what I mean, but also I never came up. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.439 I think to that point, like they do a really 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.520 good job, like talking with the commanders, talking to their teams, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.360 that they have a pretty good like research kind of 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.400 security is investigator investigate. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.200 You could look at a kid and say that's the 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.080 only thing you got. You got on this guy. He 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.360 did nothing else the whole four years that he was there. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.400 So we probably don't even need to bring that up now. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.280 But when they do investigations, were talking about talking to you, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.600 talking about talking to everybody in your bubble. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.240 So you know, I work out of high school, right, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.800 I coached at high school. I was in the head 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.160 coach's office. He got a call about a guy he coached. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.560 I guess it was six years ago. Now six years 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.880 ago is sophomore and they were asking how he was 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.880 in high school and he's getting drafted this year. And 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.520 I did a report on you know, I just didn't 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.120 report on him. And I was like, oh my gosh, Like, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.319 how how crazy is that? 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.120 Reaching out like that? They need to. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.280 Know what type of person was he worked hard? Was 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.640 he was he all over the place? Was he like 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.880 what type of guy he is? And you can only 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.760 find that out from the people that we've been around 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:40.240 in the past. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:41.640 And I think that's one of the reasons maybe why 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.480 they don't ask tan about it, because like, you hang 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.760 around Tanner for five minutes and like his coaching staff, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.560 they're going to vouch for him. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.400 They're gonna be like, hey man, he's a good, good dude. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.480 He works hard like somebody's uncle. Yeah. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.760 See the thing about it too, And that's I didn't 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.600 know they was doing that until I bumped into people 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:58.400 in the neighborhood and. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.520 They like, yeah, I got a call. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:05.160 I gotta know the same thing they find Fridz, they 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.079 find bro Like they called my high school called my 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.920 high school coach already knew that stuff, Like we had 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.760 a bunch of guys that went pro already, so he 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.040 he would tell us that stuff when we was in 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.800 high school. Yeah, you know, I get that call down 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.000 the road and if you ask you, if you, if 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.480 you you or something something, I'm gonna tell them this 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.120 what you The truth was one of those no nonsense 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.080 got But I'm sure when they called by me, he 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.560 probably had nothing but good to say. But here guy 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.240 in the neighborhood say his mama got a call. Yeah, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.320 how he got your mama number. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.080 First of all, cross country ain't got nothing to do. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.160 My cross country coach called me and was like, hey, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.240 I just got a call from the NFL, and I 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:44.280 like what they asked you. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.480 They just asked me about how you was you compete? 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.560 Like what you tell them? I told him in your 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.440 first cross country meet, you cheating. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.120 They weren't surprised. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:01.120 I ran literally down the hill and I finished so 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.480 fast that they were like, come on, dude, you ain't ready. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.120 I didn't run the course, you just know I cut 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:07.840 down the hill. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.000 I showed up at the line and the lady was like, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.160 telling me, you just read fifteen. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.480 Me like, hey, I'm trying to win this thing. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.040 But then they're gonna reach out to your pastor, if 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.600 you went to church, and you being in the church, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.120 whoever they can get information from. They're going to find 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.360 out what type of person you are, who you are 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.120 because they know we're prepped at these meetings by agents. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.800 So that's kind of like what goes on before the interview. Man, 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.680 you kind of mentioned some stuff that happened in the interview. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.240 Anything else stick out to you when you're in the 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.520 interview with those teams at the time, like, I. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.880 Only got one thing that was funny and I love that. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.920 This is my head coach had actually got a head 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.320 coaching job with the Browns, my. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.960 Cottage head Yeah, and me and Reggie was in. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.360 I'm not sure we was in at the same time 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.040 or we went in after each other. But I knew 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.640 that interview was the shortest they because they asked me 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.360 at the time. And trust me, we love but but 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.040 David meant the world to me. Just forgive me the opportunity. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.880 But you know, it's so much, it's so much going 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.040 on in your head. You don't know who to mention 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.080 and who the and the GM or I think the owner. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.520 One of those guys asked me who was the most 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.320 influential coach at my days in UIM and I was like, coach, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.680 you know, coach c J. And then the interview stopped. 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.280 They was like, okay, get up out it and I'm like, man, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.080 they cut me short. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.320 Regu came. I was like, yeah, man, I said CJ 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.600 name and they cut me short. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.240 So d lowin and he's like no, I said, but 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.720