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Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we're talking combine

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Speaker 1: to attend or not to attend?

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Speaker 2: That is the question, is the question, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to tell you how to spot a commander. It's a secret.

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Speaker 2: Makes you stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got friend's interview stories with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of iconic NFL head coaches.

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Speaker 3: Be a Bailichick like Jod groomed like everybody.

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Speaker 1: It all starts right now. Welcome into the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth and Santana Moosa

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Speaker 1: and as all it is I and as always represented

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Speaker 1: by cognitive technology, Secure today, Shape tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And just a reminder, we got a mailback episode coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm always a big got to see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm dyslexic, so I got to see

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Speaker 1: leave and started.

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Speaker 4: Getting as Yeah, because once it's not warming up, it's

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Speaker 4: something brewing.

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Speaker 5: Last last week yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was brick. Yeah, yeah, it was very cool now

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Speaker 2: and now is in its fifties. In the fifties, what

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Speaker 2: do you think something something come on one.

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Speaker 5: Day about football players.

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Speaker 3: I say, it's two jobs we can walk into right

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Speaker 3: at the football and it's being a doctor.

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Speaker 2: We know everybody, you know, we know how to repair body, and.

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Speaker 5: We know the weather. We can smell rain come, I'm telling.

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Speaker 3: You, and we know scientifically warm front, cold front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know when it's when it gets

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Speaker 4: warm in an area where it's normally cold in the

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Speaker 4: time of the year, when it's normally cold.

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Speaker 2: It's the calm before the store. So that's it. I

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Speaker 2: learned that being in Florida, boys, so.

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Speaker 1: You know in Florida that's one hundred percent that happens

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Speaker 1: all the time. So we just we're gonna do that

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Speaker 1: mail bag episode we've been talking about for a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Now, make sure you leave your questions there.

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Speaker 1: We can't do it this week, why because it's the

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Speaker 1: NFL combine week, and so I think this is a

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Speaker 1: good week to kind of do a little out of

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Speaker 1: cleve you a little bit, kind of recapped Tennant and

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Speaker 1: Fred's experiences go to the combine.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't school enough to go congrats.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And so we're gonna start off our first second

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Speaker 1: with risk it for the biscuit attending the combine. This

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Speaker 1: is presented by marsh McLennon Agency, your partner and risk

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Speaker 1: in people's strategies.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with the highest level.

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Speaker 1: Concept, right, The easiest thing to talk about is what

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Speaker 1: is the importance of the combine? And just again this

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Speaker 1: is kind of just your first take.

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Speaker 4: What I always thought that the most important part of

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Speaker 4: us attending the combine is one getting I guess having

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Speaker 4: the privilege to attend. To me, I think that was

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Speaker 4: the first and foreman. It's like if you if you

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Speaker 4: want the guys we want to see. To me, that

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Speaker 4: was the most important thing. Then then two as a

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Speaker 4: player was what we want for the player. I thought

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Speaker 4: the interviews was more important than any workout. The interviews

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Speaker 4: and the measurements like wining in getting your whole measurements,

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Speaker 4: all that stuff to me was more important than me

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Speaker 4: doing anything on that field, because I feel like if

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Speaker 4: the last few years.

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Speaker 2: They have enough tape.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yes, they want to see you compete against all

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Speaker 4: these other guys, but you don't necessarily have to go

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Speaker 4: out there and do it while you up there. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that we was the creators.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say because like I remember last year,

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 1: But I do think I do think that you bring

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Speaker 1: It's like you like so I don't know how it

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Speaker 3: Speaking of that, this is what I've always felt was

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Speaker 3: that first day is all medical.

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Speaker 1: It's it's and when he says all medical, like anything

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Speaker 1: they'll take you.

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Speaker 2: You get an MRI. Yes, and so you're in a

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Speaker 5: A bone, marrow man everything.

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Speaker 3: And I asked myself, like, while I was there, do

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Speaker 3: I think the medical is so important is you've seen

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Speaker 2: We don't even know it's something wrong with us.

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Speaker 3: So to get us there for the first day and

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Speaker 1: And it is crazy, like it's so comprehensive. Guys have

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Speaker 2: Coming out of this thing. It is extremely concible.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things too, that I kind

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Speaker 4: honestly hit. They was actually saying, who can go through this?

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Speaker 4: And be prepared to get up tomorrow and do what

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Speaker 4: they have to do get their job. So they're testing you.

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Speaker 4: You're getting tested while you're getting tested. You see what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Why you being tested?

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Speaker 1: But as a guy who coaches like forties and coaches

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Speaker 2: Right. Yes, I remember there was one night I was

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Speaker 1: With a guy like the coach, the forty coach. I

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Speaker 2: But they just they're like, I can't go to bed.

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Speaker 1: It's like it was even more they couldn't go to

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is not fair to

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Speaker 5: People usually want a fast of forty cool.

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Speaker 2: It's your turf, man, it's your bed, it's your food.

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Speaker 3: And you just ain't get no blood today before Like

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Speaker 2: Think about this.

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Speaker 5: You played your whole life playing football.

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Speaker 3: You have put up enormous status, so you wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: a bad forty, that just dropped me. Like so it's like,

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Speaker 3: also this was another thing medically that I said because

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Speaker 3: he had. Then I get up there and I'm way

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Speaker 3: skinny to him. I ain't never had injury in college.

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Speaker 3: I never missed the game, never anything. But now I

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Speaker 3: it's just this glorified cattle call. It's a total cattle call.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I was always had mixed emotions about it.

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Speaker 1: And it's so weird because they take those they take

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Speaker 1: So when I was playing, I'd always go watch like

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Speaker 2: Yes, it starts with them. I hate it. And so

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Speaker 2: it's everyone sees, yea, you know what he's not calling

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Speaker 4: And not only that, man, I mean you find out.

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Speaker 4: I mean we all knew it's a lot of characters.

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Speaker 4: We got one here with us, but in that line,

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Speaker 2: He won't stop talking.

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Speaker 4: Johnson, Chad Johnson, he wouldn't stop talking. And I'm like, boy, like,

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Speaker 4: because we came from an era when everybody didn't have

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Speaker 2: You had to have. It was a privilege to have

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Speaker 4: So, like I was saying, before I even you know,

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Speaker 4: Pro Days, but I do believe that Miami at one

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Speaker 4: got to stop were going there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So we always took.

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Speaker 4: Pride in saying, hey, yeah far as the teams, you know,

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Speaker 4: all the teams knew that Miami guys ain't coming here

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Speaker 2: But also there was guys that was locally.

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Speaker 4: That probably played off, you know, how to stayed in college,

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Speaker 4: but they from Miami and they was like, bro were

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't work with y'all because.

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Speaker 4: All the schools, all the teams, all thirty plus teams

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Speaker 2: So I've always took it.

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Speaker 4: I never took it for granted when we was there,

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Speaker 3: This basically the crew. I came in there. I was

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Speaker 5: Really, it was fifty two hundred questions.

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Kind of like the Wonder li with their own version,

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Speaker 1: So you did that for your they waste I feel

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Speaker 1: You like have a couple of coffees and down it's hey,

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Speaker 2: I think it's about forty that time.

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Speaker 4: They wanted you to come to with certain rooms you

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Speaker 1: You got your package they or not yet they said

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Speaker 2: They sitting in there watching you. It feels like a

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Speaker 4: It's the way of time. I was with a fly

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Speaker 5: So I went in there and I took I took

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Speaker 2: But the interviews ready to go.

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Speaker 3: The interviews with the camera sites just like our camera

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Speaker 5: Now they're gonna ask you.

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Speaker 3: Fred Smooth, what happened September twelfth, teen ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: I was at a party. But you know, it's crazy

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Speaker 4: So I was in there so nervous to tell this story,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I ran, I ran to So I'm saying

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Speaker 4: How I'm going to work just to make it seem

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Speaker 4: like I didn't. But at the same time, too, they

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, but also I never came up.

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Speaker 1: I think to that point, like they do a really

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Speaker 4: You could look at a kid and say that's the

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Speaker 4: So we probably don't even need to bring that up now.

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Speaker 3: But when they do investigations, were talking about talking to you,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I work out of high school, right,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was six years ago. Now six years

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Speaker 1: how how crazy is that?

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Speaker 2: Reaching out like that? They need to.

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Speaker 3: Know what type of person was he worked hard? Was

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons maybe why

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Speaker 1: they don't ask tan about it, because like, you hang

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be like, hey man, he's a good, good dude.

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Speaker 2: He works hard like somebody's uncle. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: See the thing about it too, And that's I didn't

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Speaker 2: They like, yeah, I got a call.

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Speaker 4: I gotta know the same thing they find Fridz, they

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Speaker 4: find bro Like they called my high school called my

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Speaker 4: high school coach already knew that stuff, Like we had

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Speaker 4: what you The truth was one of those no nonsense

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Speaker 4: probably had nothing but good to say. But here guy

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Speaker 4: how he got your mama number.

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Speaker 5: First of all, cross country ain't got nothing to do.

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Speaker 3: My cross country coach called me and was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I just got a call from the NFL, and I

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Speaker 3: like what they asked you.

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Speaker 5: They just asked me about how you was you compete?

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Speaker 5: Like what you tell them? I told him in your

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Speaker 2: They weren't surprised.

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Speaker 3: I ran literally down the hill and I finished so

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Speaker 2: I didn't run the course, you just know I cut

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Speaker 3: I showed up at the line and the lady was like,

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Speaker 2: Me like, hey, I'm trying to win this thing.

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Speaker 3: But then they're gonna reach out to your pastor, if

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Speaker 3: whoever they can get information from. They're going to find

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Speaker 3: because they know we're prepped at these meetings by agents.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of like what goes on before the interview. Man,

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Speaker 1: Anything else stick out to you when you're in the

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Speaker 2: Only got one thing that was funny and I love that.

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Speaker 4: This is my head coach had actually got a head

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Speaker 4: David meant the world to me. Just forgive me the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's so much, it's so much going

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Speaker 4: One of those guys asked me who was the most

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Speaker 4: you know, coach c J. And then the interview stopped.

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Speaker 4: They was like, okay, get up out it and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: So d lowin and he's like no, I said, but

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Speaker 4: got you know what I mean and don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: But CJ was more. He was.

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Speaker 4: My receiver coach, so I see him every day, the

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Speaker 4: Are you at and I'm I'm on my way to

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Speaker 4: right now, watch some film you ain't playing tomorrow, like

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Speaker 4: watch this tape. So when you think back at all

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Speaker 4: those memories, man, like that's the guy to me right now.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen years in the league. I didn't learn much more

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Speaker 4: already with season. If you if you fine tuned me

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Speaker 4: with something, yeah you fine tuned it.

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Speaker 5: But every this man had me so equipped.

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Speaker 4: Like when we ran our routes, when we had to

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Speaker 4: in college everything was rounded round. We had round outs,

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Speaker 4: the routes just to be tested for them. And when

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Speaker 4: I got to the league, when we got to that

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Speaker 2: Which I'm a good coach.

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Speaker 4: So he had as so well together man to where

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Speaker 4: I got to get him in his crew.

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Speaker 2: I gotta gi him as flowers, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's soy for And again like do

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Speaker 2: So I don't.

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Speaker 1: I know you now well right, and we're friends now,

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Speaker 1: But what were you like in college?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was like, oh, this guy's your uncle and.

443
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 3: Was known in college for being the mouth for the

444
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 3: sound like talking trade. So all the coaches want to know,

445
00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,400
Speaker 3: was I facetious in.

446
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,120
Speaker 2: My trash manure? Was I authentic? I did?

447
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,199
Speaker 5: So I never forget my John grew and I go

448
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,680
Speaker 5: to Justin.

449
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 3: You know he got this whale talking. God, I heard

450
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,639
Speaker 3: you saying, not like which one did you hear? He

451
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 3: like talking bounce.

452
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:52,639
Speaker 2: The world.

453
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 3: It's covered by water and you cover the wrists. What

454
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,639
Speaker 3: are you gonna do when you got to play against

455
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 3: the Awquaman? Like first, but I ain't scatting nobody, So

456
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm getting into my home mode.

457
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Man.

458
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 3: And because he's so Lucy Goosey, I'm Lucy Goosey.

459
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 5: I leave from him. And we just really going back

460
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 5: and forth talking noise.

461
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 1: We said, so when you say back and forth, because

462
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 1: like I heard, I heard an industring interview story from

463
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: about a coach that we know pretty well and a

464
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 1: receiver that's kind of famous the NFL now, and he

465
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: was like he basically said, oh, I'm Julio Jones and

466
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 1: the coach is like, no, you're not. And they got

467
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: like kind of heated about it.

468
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 2: Was it heated? It was a heated discussion. It wasn't heated.

469
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 2: It was all in fun.

470
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 5: I'm laughing, he laughed.

471
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 4: Fred Fred talked as much as crap.

472
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 2: Fred talked.

473
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 4: It was always you always got a sense that it

474
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 4: comes from a good place.

475
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

476
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 4: Like sometimes like I'm listening to the dude tell people

477
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 4: stuff about themself and I'm like, bro, like you just

478
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 4: you can't say that in some places, like we want

479
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 4: to fight.

480
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: When I'm from we don't want to. We don't want to.

481
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 2: But when it comes from him, it's funny. You didn't

482
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: feel that it was that aggressive for you to kind

483
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: of offend, you know what I'm saying.

484
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 1: Like that dinner the other night, man, I was like,

485
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm surprised there's not a fight right now.

486
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 3: We had fun and I go from none serious Gruden

487
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 3: to Belichick.

488
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: How was that?

489
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: And Belichick showed me some of his loose side, but

490
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: he was very stoic. He was very into me as

491
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 3: a player. Also because not only did he interview me

492
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: at the combine when we had to do our trips,

493
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 3: he flew me.

494
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: He flew me to New England.

495
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: So sometimes I wonder if they do that, and I

496
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: think that there's probably both. They wonder if I wonder

497
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 1: I they did that because they didn't get a good

498
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: enough feel in the combin and I just want to

499
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: see if it's the same guy again, you know what

500
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean?

501
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: And I think they want to I just think they

502
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 3: want to dig a little deeper because he ended up

503
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 3: taking Richard Seymour the defensive defensive defensive.

504
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 2: And he took Lennon Mines second round of him.

505
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 3: So he took these guys, but the interviews theirself was

506
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 3: so different. One was just totally all bus Nick's kind

507
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 3: of story. So Fred he more excellent about the problems

508
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: because he's like, I see, you don't have problem with

509
00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: man man coverage.

510
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: You do vell and zone.

511
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 5: You're a willing tackler.

512
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: But what if I ask you to play special teams

513
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 3: for the whole first year? Don't start how you're gonna

514
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: feel about that? You've been a starter since it says

515
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: you've been a starter here since tent Are you ready

516
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: for the question? I was ready because while he's asking

517
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: me on processing, you.

518
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, like because like you know now

519
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: they've got like these the preps, Like now, like, what

520
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: are the things you do when you go to combine prep?

521
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: Is you have a coach that coach press and I

522
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: had one that coached me.

523
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: I mean they prepped me, but also you can't prep

524
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: me for thirty two different persons.

525
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 5: So this personality right here is basically expect to gadget.

526
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: He wants to know how you're gonna feel, and I

527
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 3: was like, well, coach, if you want me to play

528
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: special teams and you think that's better for the team.

529
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: I do it, but I'm gonna still be fighting for

530
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: this starting job. And so he you know, he was

531
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: more trying to see mentally, are you a competitive to

532
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: good question? And Bill Coward was very much a mixture

533
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: of the two where he could sit up there you

534
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: that Bubba Gum get serious without so getting loose enough

535
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: for you.

536
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 2: Can relax and talk to him. Did you so both

537
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: this question? Brother? You guys after the interviews you're like,

538
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to this team or did you have a

539
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: feel for that?

540
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 4: I had no clue, b Bro, my enemy my interviews

541
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: was almost like worthless.

542
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: At times. I was like, Bro, what did we just

543
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: do that?

544
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 4: So if you have an example of like because honestly, bro,

545
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: if you look at me coming out of college, the

546
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: way I got into college, the number.

547
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Was brought up. You see what I'm saying, Like, think

548
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 2: about it. I walked on.

549
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: Let's talk about that, Like, how did you overcome being

550
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: a walk on at University of Miami?

551
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: How did you you know?

552
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 4: How is it that you came into you know, college

553
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: with no stars and nobody was looking at you?

554
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: But now.

555
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: Everybody and everybody saying if you you five eleven, you'll

556
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: be the first receiver take it. We didn't talk about

557
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: me being short, you know what I mean, you'd have

558
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: thought these questions would have came up. So it was

559
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: like can you can you go out here and play

560
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: on the outside, like actually all.

561
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: Other questions like.

562
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: Like it's because like the questions that Fred's getting are

563
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: the questions I would have expected, like a version of that.

564
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: I honestly thought that, And this is my take, Like

565
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 4: it might be something different, It might be people might

566
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: view it differently. I honestly thought that playing the way

567
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 4: I played at the University of Miami, they ain't hand

568
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 4: no the acts.

569
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: They looked at it and say, look this is what

570
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: we know what we got, you know what I mean?

571
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: The question was the situation.

572
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: I was one hundred and seventy five pounds, so they

573
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: want to know you think you're gonna be able to

574
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: still run as fast as you do at So I'm

575
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: getting asked these questions out for body, but me and

576
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 3: Reggie asked.

577
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: But we got more questions about each other than we

578
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: did about anything. How wasn't playing with Reggie? And I'm

579
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: pretty sure Reggie asked.

580
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: The question right, they want to cross.

581
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 4: They wanted to cross and see it. I'm like, you know,

582
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 4: he was the guy when I got there, I just

583
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: followed it. I got in his hip pocket and made

584
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: sure that I wouldn't you know, I wasn't gonna get

585
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: looked over. And before you know it, I was next

586
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 4: to him.

587
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: You know, we was. He was If you want to

588
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: say he was one, he was one.

589
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: I was the next guy. And then before you know it,

590
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: I made a name for myself. And that's the kind

591
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: of questions we were talking more about that, you know

592
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: what I mean, And they were like, oh, for real,

593
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: So you looked at him as the number one guy.

594
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: He was number one, he was freshman, he was all

595
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: big East freshman, you know, our freshman year. Like I

596
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: was just trying to get my name mentioned. Before you

597
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 4: know it, I made a whole name for myself.

598
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Miami thing, because Miami at the

599
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: time was like we was dominant.

600
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: And I think too because CJ told us this, and

601
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 4: this is the thing I loved about having CJ as

602
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: at wide receiver coach my junior year. He told us, look,

603
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 4: I don't care what you do. You know, he from

604
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: New Orleans. He said, say, say, Bron, I don't.

605
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: Care what you did all year. Bro. We be playing

606
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: Florida State this week.

607
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 4: I'm just telling y'all right now, if you go out

608
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: here and you play well again Florida State, I'm gonna

609
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: shake your hand at the end of the game and

610
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: tell you it was nice coaching because you're going to

611
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: the NFL.

612
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: You're going to the NFL, say, I'm telling you. I'm

613
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: telling you, brother.

614
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 4: I went out there one eighty in Dog Cammebell my

615
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: junior year, one eighty two Tugs. That boy came and

616
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 4: told me, hey man, it's nice coaching.

617
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: Say CJ, how you going nowhere? And this is early

618
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: in the season.

619
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: We played for stay week five, week six, Like CJ,

620
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere, and he telling me, your fool,

621
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: bro here a fool if you don't know.

622
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

623
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: But I ended up playing that whole year, balled out,

624
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 4: end up playing and came back my senior year.

625
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: But that's the kind of thing we had, so I

626
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: kind of level.

627
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: I kind of took it at the level that I

628
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 4: had came from, and the team it was almost like

629
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: I don't need to ask questions.

630
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: I can turn so sure like you your head coach,

631
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: like all of those connections are probably playing it.

632
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: And I was gonna because I'm like, cause I'm listening

633
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 4: to him, I'm like, bro, my interviews was it like this.

634
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: But the thing is, also I feel like to come

635
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: by after all this stuff we didn't put on film.

636
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: This is how you weed it out and find out

637
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: reasons not to draft.

638
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: So I'm so glad you brought that up because really,

639
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you ever heard those stories like oh

640
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots going with a with a big board of

641
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: thirty people, it's because they they are using this as

642
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: an exclusionary process.

643
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: It's like to you, we're eliminating people that don't.

644
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: We were a part of a class where we saw

645
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: a dude very telling it that lost his status because

646
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 4: we remember, I don't know, it's the simple wash.

647
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't simple.

648
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 5: It was the draft and flopped the drug and I

649
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: don't think you floated it.

650
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: Theyll weed on the floor, on the floor and the like,

651
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: and they ended up making them go home, sitting them go.

652
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: So I'm not I want to call him by name.

653
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: So Jason made sure we owned this send them by name.

654
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: But it was somebody that was highly sought out. I

655
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: remember they sent him home, yep, because you got to

656
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 4: come back.

657
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: But so I think, like, you know, obviously like talking

658
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: about the legality of weed and whether it should have

659
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: been legal, then like that's that's I think what it is.

660
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: It's like you're it's just a job interview, right, And

661
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: so that's the can't you focus for three days you're there?

662
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: You can't even come here and not smoke, you know

663
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 2: what I mean?

664
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: Somebody had had the hall we lit and you know,

665
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: we in that hotel and they like, they're like who

666
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: in here?

667
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Who got the nerve? And they were like, yeah, that

668
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: boy got sent home by yeah, I said, but they

669
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: still waking. I'm talking about it on fire.

670
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there in myself like you need all

671
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: this dreaming and all it worked.

672
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: But to me, I was like, you got to be

673
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: a you gotta be a care that d really don't care.

674
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: But the crazy part.

675
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: About it, he still got a chance, a chance that

676
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: came in the league. He didn't go as high, yeah,

677
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: and he got it. He still got in because they

678
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 4: knew he was very.

679
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Very talented. But I think that's what this ultimately is.

680
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: It's like they want to get a feel for the person, right,

681
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: They want to get a feel for like who you are,

682
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: how you gonna be at the next level, how you

683
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna be when you get a little bit of money.

684
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: And like the other thing is I've heard this too.

685
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: It's like the we're gonna talk about the on field

686
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: stuff here. This is a good leading is they care

687
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: about the on field work. But it's really just like

688
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: you knew this was coming, did you prep for it?

689
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Did you do the work? Because now there's all these facilities,

690
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: there's all these coaches. They'll get you, right, and if

691
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: you come out here and follow in your face, it's like,

692
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: what you didn't know this was gonna happen.

693
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: You weren't aware of this whole simple something like coming

694
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: in overweight, right, this guy don't even care.

695
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're right.

696
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: It's truly mental make up here. But it's also the show,

697
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: the show of physicality, the show of hi goes forded

698
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: two inch vertical, he go this four three forty, he

699
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: go two twenty five forty three times, like Leonard Davis, Like,

700
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all remember big leonyarn I remember

701
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: you know you're not your class classmate, Big Lennard started

702
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: pumping that weight. I ain't see him stopped for two

703
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: days listen to I was.

704
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Like, I have never seen thathing. He was like six six,

705
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: like three seventy or something.

706
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna tell you who had a hell

707
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: of a day. Ghip Derreck Gips. Yeah, Derrick Gibson, safety

708
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: from Florida.

709
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: So big.

710
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: I mean he was, he was big, he was fast

711
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 4: at job senior ball with him. Yeah, I was like,

712
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: I went back to he got that in high school.

713
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: I played with the best safety in college football. I

714
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: was like, it ain't nothing he can do.

715
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: One on one were receivers. He out there checking him

716
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 3: just like a corner. And then he's six three two

717
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: twenty five and.

718
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: He ran like I'm talking about he ran. He ran

719
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: the second leg on the four bout one yester.

720
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: So he ran a four three, jumped forty inches at

721
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: the comeby like he left no sterns on t but

722
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: went to Oakland, I mean Oakland at the time, and

723
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: live really took off. Yeah, so they go they go

724
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: to think about it. The comeback is get you high.

725
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: You go the worst company you're going to now, I'm

726
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: sorry just what it is.

727
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's talk about that real quick.

728
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: So again, I think we gave a lot of time

729
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to the interview stuff because I think that's the interviews

730
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: of the medical are the most important reason for the combat,

731
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Like that's why you go. So let's talk about the

732
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: on field stuff, right. And my first question is if

733
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: you're a top ten pick, would you do the field stuff?

734
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: If I'm a top twenty A, if I'm in the

735
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: first round, And I totally agree.

736
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I totally agree, And people say, why is that? Don't

737
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: you want to compete it? In this day and age,

738
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: teams have so much data. They have your GPS speed,

739
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: they have your deceleration speed, they have your acceleration speed,

740
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: they have your body weights.

741
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: It's all as long as you've interviewed, heartbeat, they've got

742
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: it all in there.

743
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: My thing was too when it came to that, and

744
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: like I said, thank God for the privilege of being

745
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: from where I was from and us having the kind

746
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: of season that we had those years.

747
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: We remember we kind of came back into dominance.

748
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: When I was there, and then we started off rocky

749
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: and by the time we left out of that, we

750
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: should have been national championship win champions that year.

751
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: But I bring that up because it was almost expected. Yeah,

752
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: you can't have a side.

753
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: I kept talking trying, I ain't pay attention to that boy.

754
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: It was almost expected that the you guys wasn't gonna

755
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: work out. So to have that already given, I was

756
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: making sure I was gonna take full advantage. And the

757
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: reason why I say that because it's almost like what

758
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: I went through in college and in my pros. I

759
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: went through a quarterback every year in college, people don't

760
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: know a new quarterback and then not get.

761
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: Your pros And it's the same story.

762
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: So if I'm finna have the biggest tests of my

763
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: career or life to try to get these people to

764
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: say what I did this past few years four years

765
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: in college, it's shown up on this field.

766
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to go out there with some Joe

767
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: Blow I don't know, or some coach that's.

768
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: Trying to tell me you're catching the ball off, or

769
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: even just these coaches who telling you to do these drills.

770
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: I'm watching some of the drills a that time, I'm like,

771
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: come on, coach, be.

772
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Like on that guy.

773
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: That's why I like Steve Smith there, because Steve is

774
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: so just you know, he kind of one tracked mind.

775
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: He sees a quarterback, you know, quarterback trying to show

776
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: their strength, throwing to a wide receive as hard as

777
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: he can.

778
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: And Steve like, man, slow that ball down.

779
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: This is a ten year old hook round throw that

780
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: with some touch. So this dude can catch the ball.

781
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: And that's the problem. If I'm sure do her all right?

782
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: And I know I'm already in the top half for

783
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: the draft, and you tell you asked me to come

784
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: in front of everybody on NFL network and throw to

785
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: guys that I've never played with and on the field

786
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: that I've never been on.

787
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: No, I'm not doing that.

788
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Uncertainty, Come to Colorado now and watch me play.

789
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: I would say this if Horn or the other kid

790
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 4: at fourteen, any one of them guys out there should

791
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: do it.

792
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Gonna go there.

793
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: But I know for a fact color Rado now has

794
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: the same presence of how we did MIAI and they go.

795
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: He's outso do away. In Travis Hana's way of saying,

796
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: come look at the wrist. Yeah, So it's not even that's.

797
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: The biggest I mean, he's already done that.

798
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: So he went to the Shrine Bowl, which most times

799
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: the top guys like when you look at the talent

800
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: rosters between the Senior Bowl and the Shrine Bowl. People

801
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl. He went to the Shrine Bowl.

802
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Didn't work out. Yeah, interviewed with all that, interviewed with

803
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: all the teams there, and you know I did that

804
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: because he wanted. He had the three receivers at the

805
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. He's like, come watch my guys. Yeah, And

806
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I think it's an incentive, Like he's supporting his guys

807
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: through the process, which I appreciate. He's going to going

808
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: to the events and he'll go to the combine interview

809
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: because it's that's the important part.

810
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: He'll show. Yes, I would not be So let me

811
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: just say this though.

812
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: So that's if you're like a first round pick, top twenty, pig,

813
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: top thirty, whatever, Like I don't think you really need

814
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: a whole bunch, right, I mean, let's just say it

815
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: this way. If you're top three at a position, I

816
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: don't think you need to do anything. However, if you

817
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: think you can help yourself, you go to do it.

818
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: You should do it. Yeah, and let's talk about it's

819
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: any questions in question, So like for.

820
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: Example, like Abdul Carter, like the number one d he's

821
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: the number one edge on my board, maybe number.

822
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: One player in the drafts. He should not be going.

823
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: But if this dude comes out and runs like a

824
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: four to two, has like a four one four seven split,

825
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: jumps forty two inches, like, dude's gonna be the first

826
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: break overall.

827
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Like most definitely it's happening. Yeah. So if you know

828
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna if you know you're gonna ace the test, yeah,

829
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: take the test.

830
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: If there's any doubt like so, for example, like Marvearet

831
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior last year, I think there was some doubt

832
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: about how well it was gonna run.

833
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so his high his top hands meet or who's.

834
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: The tight end for Philadelphia? God, his name Escapes span

835
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: got Dallas Goddard. He didn't run a forty the entire

836
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: pre draft process. If it's gonna be even if it's

837
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be an a plus, yeah, don't show up.

838
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: Throw it.

839
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: It was somebody else when he Oh, but he was

840
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: fan boy Jackson.

841
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Lamont he because he had to see.

842
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: He had I was seeing even to sit here and

843
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: tell me, oh, yeah, you four too.

844
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: He needs to be a receiver.

845
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: I would listen to up to Eli said the other day,

846
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: Eli man and said, you know what, I have never

847
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: ran a forty ever one day in my life.

848
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 5: I had one one in high school, junior high school.

849
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: You don't need He was like, I was just never

850
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 5: gonna do it, Like, why would I do it when

851
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: I know I'm not fast?

852
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Like I can throw the I'm what I came. Don't

853
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: give a team a reason not to be like, oh,

854
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: he runs a five three.

855
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: But this is my question with that though, at one

856
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: point you couldn't do that.

857
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: So I'm hell, Eli, get juice.

858
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: We know.

859
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: I don't know why I asked that question. My bad,

860
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: I take that back.

861
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 4: But for any other guy, they don't have that privilege,

862
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying. So so at one point, Bro,

863
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: the forty was for everybody. They don't care what you think,

864
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: you is, what you you gonna run? They want to

865
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: see it. They want to see it for the simple

866
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: fact that you're under the pressure like everybody else on

867
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: this microscope and all eyes on you, the clock and

868
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: it's silence, and everybody got they're gonna blow that with

869
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 4: you or whatever's gonna happen, and they gonna get that time.

870
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 4: So when I see that now, like these kids are

871
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: coming in and saying, hey, I'm gonna scrap this. I'ma

872
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: scrap that. I'm scrapped that. Thank God that you can

873
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: do it, because at one point.

874
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: You couldn't know you could.

875
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: It was no fair dodging and I they you had

876
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: to get it done unless you had and I think loophole.

877
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: I think too for what we experienced as players just

878
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: back in the times.

879
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: You almost look forward to doing it.

880
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, even though you probably lived that weight, what

881
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: one time you want, but you did it with with

882
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: knowing that I'm gonna do it one time and tell

883
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: you against what the coaches told me son most DB's

884
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 4: and what they wanted to even right, I didn't do

885
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: one twenty I didn't do I didn't do it, he.

886
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: Said, because you got under that knowing damn well you

887
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: were gonna get one and a half reps.

888
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: They were like, that showed us you ain't really afraid

889
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: of anything. We knew, we was looking. We was.

890
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: I could have threugh that T twenty five, but I'm like,

891
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: do I want.

892
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: To be doing this?

893
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: And they gotta run They did a couple of years

894
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: ago as they were benching before they were running, and

895
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: then everyone was running slow, and so everyone just said,

896
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not benching, and then they said, well, we want

897
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: people to bench. So now they do the forty first

898
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: because they want people to run. Because this is maybe

899
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: leads nice to the next question. The most important drill

900
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: at the combine is what in your.

901
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: Opinion, I think it's specialized to your position. Wait, dB,

902
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: I think it's the w dria with the ball. I

903
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: also think it's running routes on air backplaying through route

904
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: because now I can see how smooth you out of

905
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: your hips, how fluent you are, how fast you could turn.

906
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that, though, because everybody, like who

907
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: doesn't go to the combine or watch the combine, it's

908
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: going to say, oh, it's the forty.

909
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: But to me, it's the on field stuff.

910
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: And it's important because you go, you know, Fretzboo goos logan,

911
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Paulson goes Santanta Mosco. We all go right in order,

912
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, he's a little bit tighter,

913
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hard time with that. He's look

914
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: at how he adjusted the ball. And again, the forty

915
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: is the one that gets all the pub and I

916
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: get why.

917
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: Because it has this.

918
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: Olympic. This fastest man in the world. It has this

919
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: measuring to it.

920
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: Now, I will say this as a receiver, Uh, it

921
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: might not be the most important, but I've seen receivers

922
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: loose drop and gain status from running either a good

923
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: or a bad forty.

924
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: But I would say this is also too to me.

925
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: And I hate this.

926
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: I hated this drill and I'm glad we had to

927
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: do it our pro day. They gottlin man bro.

928
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: I can't stand it when you got to catch them

929
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: up looking both side.

930
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be looking this way at the ball over

931
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: the up. I'm looking here. I'm not looking here. I'm

932
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: not looking here like I hate it, and I'm like,

933
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: why we do it? So you know you know why

934
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: we do it, and I know you hate it because

935
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: we've talked about this before.

936
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Is if you're evaluating receivers, it's the easiest way of

937
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: the stuff they do with the combat hand to test

938
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: hands and how they track the ball.

939
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: It's like when they're running through the gauntlet.

940
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: If they are jumping or slowing down like you want

941
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: to see a dog run a gatlet, then they will

942
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: sprint through that.

943
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Son of a gun. There's no they don't wait for stop.

944
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: Why Yeah, because they tracked the ball maybewhere. Well yeah, right,

945
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: they tracked the ball really well. Now this goes back

946
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: to you need to make sure you've got five dudes.

947
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: Thrown the ball. They make you look like an idiot.

948
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: But like bingo, because I've seen quarterbacks and no matter

949
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: how fast that receiver was running that gun and he

950
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: had to hesitate and wait on the ball and that

951
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: slow that messed up the whole drill.

952
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: So it's not gonna always be your fault. They could

953
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: be the guy.

954
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: Now my drill, my gunland is trash because I got

955
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: a quarterback up he shouldn't be up here throwing me.

956
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: To the doomsday is a xample for that. Rome went

957
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: through the guntlet last year. It didn't look good.

958
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: No, it was he looks fine. And then he said

959
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: he actually only lifted him again. I was just saying

960
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: because he ran a good one. No, he ran a

961
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: great one. His second one.

962
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: He literally asked him can I go again?

963
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: And they were like yeah, and they let him go again.

964
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: So do you gain information from like I just think

965
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: from a dB perspective to see us fluently move our

966
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: hips shadow routes and stuff like that. Catch the ball,

967
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 3: you get more than watching us running the straight line,

968
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: because unless it's a go route, that's the only time

969
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be running.

970
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: In the scrap yard.

971
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: I think the drills period, I think you get more

972
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: from a receiver just seeing him run routes, you know.

973
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: To me, I think that's the most important thing for

974
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: a receiver. Like, look, I've seen Justin Jefferson running four

975
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: to four at the forty in the forty and I'm

976
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: saying to myself, I haven't seen him run that four

977
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: four yet in the NFL. Like no, get he's so

978
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he's so fluent and everything he does.

979
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: So to me, I want to see your route. I

980
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: want to see your routes. I want to see how

981
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: your hips move. I want to see you in and

982
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: out of your breaks, you know what I mean. I

983
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: want to see how how how precise you are when

984
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 4: you're coming down, when you when you say that comeback

985
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: needs to be and coming out of it, how do

986
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: you round it? Do you take an extra step? Like

987
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking at as a receiver.

988
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: This is receiver. This is so interesting. You said that

989
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: because like they you know, I do a lot of

990
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: like trading on the side. Right.

991
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: So people that run with their feet slightly apart, so

992
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking it's like three inches. They run like kind

993
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: of just outside their hips are better rout runners. They're

994
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: better deceleration, they're better acceleration because they have a better base, right.

995
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: But track athletes who are faster straight run with their

996
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: feet closer together. So basically with the forty, you're testing

997
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: the track thing. And then when you run routes you

998
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: get to see like the specificity of the position. And

999
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: so that's where it's like, yes, it's good. So let's

1000
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: just talk about the forty and why it's important just

1001
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: for one second. So forty with the jump and the

1002
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: broad jumps, like the vertical jump of the broad jump,

1003
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: it just says you're explosive, fre athletic. I need to

1004
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: see that athleticism apply to the drills. So that's really

1005
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: all it is. It's just saying, are you fast and athletic? Yes,

1006
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: and now let's go look at you run.

1007
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: It is a dB I can watch and receive what

1008
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: do one practice of route running?

1009
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: And you have Domini is from the.

1010
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: First time I seen chay It run routes at the

1011
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: senior bow I bet I said, he's the Bisch property,

1012
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: the Bisch route run. It wasn't the ability to go vertical,

1013
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: it's his ability to stop, his ability to stop with

1014
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: no wasted motion and to get in and out of

1015
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: those breaks out like.

1016
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 5: This dude is a tap dancer like this dude feet So.

1017
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: For all your kids, are all your coaches at home,

1018
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: like it's the speed is important, but the stopping and

1019
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: the start of everything way more important.

1020
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1021
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: It was great at that was this guy right here,

1022
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 4: right right there. I was going to bring up his story.

1023
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: It's crazy y'all say that. So we got a guy

1024
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm I'm drawing a blank right now.

1025
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: On his name.

1026
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: But oh, Melvin Bradon, Melvin brad he's a scout now

1027
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: he's he's actually an agent now. But he went through

1028
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: the years of scouting. He was a badass back in

1029
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: those days in the university. Mind he wont number five

1030
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: for the running back or he's from he's from the

1031
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: Miami area. He at the time when I came in

1032
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: as a freshman. You know how you have those practices

1033
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: where all the coaches come out, all the high school

1034
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: coaches and just check things out. Melvina, come out there.

1035
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: He's watching us. No one knows nothing about forty eight.

1036
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: Melvin Brad tell me the story right now. I was

1037
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: the reasoning that, you know what, it's crazy because I like,

1038
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: if you can look good in there, you know you

1039
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: got something. So Melvin say tenor he swear to guy,

1040
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: he just told me this story. When we went up

1041
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: for the for the for the draft in Detroit, I

1042
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 4: saw him, Kane, what's up baby? We talked, he said, Tanner,

1043
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: I tell his story. He said, I take pride in

1044
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: telling people this story about you.

1045
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: He said.

1046
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: The first day I ever watched you practice, he say, boy,

1047
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: you ran a comeback or something, and you gave a

1048
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: guy that that fake like you going inside and turn

1049
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: it back out.

1050
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: And then he.

1051
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: Said, I told her that's the first round draft pick.

1052
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: I was a true freshman walk on, so he was

1053
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: a scout.

1054
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: You're a scout. Say, they say, who is that? He said,

1055
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't know who it is. That's the first round

1056
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: draft pick. He said.

1057
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: I told the receiver coach c J at the time.

1058
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: He say that's the first round draft pick. He was like, nah, boy,

1059
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: that's that's in tening, but he gonna but you gotta look.

1060
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, I'm gonna watch them. But I just

1061
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: saw what just did.

1062
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: If he do that all the time when he run routes,

1063
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: he a first.

1064
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: Round draft, he say, tenor lady, you became them a

1065
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: sixth the next year, and I say, boy, the rest

1066
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: of was He said, y'all go ahead and get ready

1067
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: for him.

1068
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: But it's crazy for you to bring it up because.

1069
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: The times have we watched receivers go blow the forty

1070
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: out in the coming and then they take it in

1071
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: the first round like and.

1072
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: Can't play for That's the big I hate about the

1073
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 4: draft because there's so many and the Raiders was known

1074
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: for this running good for You were right?

1075
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: You were right? Yeah on man, like you finna tell me.

1076
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: I just out there, put four years of work on film,

1077
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: and he's gonna draft this kid in front of somebody.

1078
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 5: You learned from Jared Right, not learned from j Right.

1079
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: I do not need to have I don't need to

1080
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: touch the peak of all athletic prowessies like Reggie. You know,

1081
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: Reggie ran four or five, probably four to six, and

1082
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: I remember C J joking with him about it. He's

1083
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: like boy, you're slow, but you but you know because

1084
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: he because like Reggie knew that his forty was probably

1085
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: going to be the be the worst thing.

1086
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: He isn't. Nothing else Reggie did was not gonna be top.

1087
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: He was. He was. He was doing what he did in.

1088
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: The pro pros as a freshman when he walked in

1089
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: that boy court to b being a dog. I watched

1090
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: that boy catch balls, like he made my hands better

1091
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: to look at. I can't drop it, but I think

1092
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: I think it's a scout.

1093
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Like when you watch the film and you watch Reggie, well,

1094
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: you understand that he's not the fastest guy, but he's

1095
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: technically sound. He catches football, and so in the drills,

1096
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: like if he's dropping the doll, yeah, but I'm saying,

1097
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: if he's dropping the ball all the time, then you're

1098
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: like maybe you go back and watch you know, it's

1099
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: it's literally you're just checking a box. You're saying, I

1100
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: think he's fast. Oh he's fast. On the forty, he's

1101
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: fast enough. I think he's a little stiff field work,

1102
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: little stiff, But that's okay because he it was productive,

1103
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Like it's all just kind of supporting stuff you've seen before,

1104
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: and so last question here most underrated drill. I'm gonna

1105
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: answer this first. To me, it's the measurements at the combine.

1106
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm a big measurement guy because there are minimum thresholds

1107
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: for positions. So when I see good arm length, when

1108
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: I see good body weight, when I see good height,

1109
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: especially for offensive lineman and defensive lineman, I'm like and

1110
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: people like, oh, why what do you think this guy's

1111
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: a guard? I mean, I've never seen an offensive tackle

1112
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: be successful with thirty two inch arms.

1113
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not thing.

1114
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: Not not with them kangaroo homes.

1115
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: It's not a thing.

1116
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: Right, So, like they're in like corners that have longer arms,

1117
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: like Fred Fred, I always do this all the time

1118
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 1: with the arm rings. I'm one of my f inchs

1119
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: harder than arms with the same length, same his ability.

1120
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: Because when I did my measurements, they was very impressed

1121
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: with my hand side and they was like, my.

1122
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: Gods, did you play basketball? And I like, yeah, I

1123
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: play basketball. They like this with them.

1124
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: Loans come from and then allows, and they understood that

1125
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: if I got long home, if I'm getting beat, I

1126
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: could just stop and jump.

1127
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: In your ability to contact the receiver at the line

1128
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: of scrimmage like you see it on film. Like you'll

1129
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: watch a guy, especially with dbs, who got long arms,

1130
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: the ability to reach out and touch somebody jam.

1131
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 5: You would still be a yard and a half away

1132
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 5: from you.

1133
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: And then if they miss, they can recover because they've

1134
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: got that extra special. So that's why that's important to me.

1135
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: And again it fills in the data. You can see

1136
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: a guy with like a DB's a good example of

1137
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: shorter arms. It's got great feet and he can compensate

1138
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: for it or tackle with shorter arms. It's got great feet.

1139
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: It's not the end all be all, but it's a

1140
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: good way to be Like, let me make sure this.

1141
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 5: Isn't going to let me zero in on this aspect

1142
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 5: of it and see.

1143
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: How it goes. Yes, correct.

1144
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: It's like like Will Campbell for the for the LSU Tigers.

1145
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: He's going to be a top ten pick. Like I

1146
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have short arms, is he? But his

1147
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: balance is the best balance I've ever seen. His feet

1148
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: are great, great, maybe you could do it because his

1149
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: feet are so good, but I'm aware of it now

1150
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: because of the arm light.

1151
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: And we talked earlier about Travis Hunter Us He's just

1152
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: such a great athlete, but technically he's not sound now

1153
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: when I turn on that wil Johnson for him and

1154
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: watch real Johnson from Michigan, technically he's the best cornerback

1155
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: in dude.

1156
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: I had the same thought.

1157
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: So I just I'm doing receivers for tickets of the

1158
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: draft with Jason and we were talking about McMillan from Arizona,

1159
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: and I think he's a better receiver right right now.

1160
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: But Travis Hunter is a special athlete, like and so

1161
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: it's like you're pretty and the other thing.

1162
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: He's playing both ways. You can tell there's times where

1163
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: he's tired. Yeah.

1164
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Javon Curse, Dion Sanders named some more athletes who just.

1165
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Bailey, like Charles Woodson.

1166
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: Bluefoot was very regarded when it came out.

1167
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Should I tell you, I'm just.

1168
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: Saying as far as seans like freakish when you're watching Travils, honey,

1169
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: you can't put him in.

1170
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: The bubble with everybody.

1171
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 4: You gotta say the bubble him, Yeah, because because he

1172
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: does things that you'd.

1173
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: Be like, how you you just did that? You know

1174
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: what I mean? That's crazy. Do you think he run

1175
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: a forty him? I probably would. I don't think fast.

1176
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: He's he got nothing to hide in it, you know.

1177
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: But I guess like for me, if you run like

1178
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: a four to far, it's like.

1179
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: You're like, damned if I do, Damn if I like,

1180
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: I just don't see him benefiting.

1181
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: From you talking about film all the time time, Like

1182
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: when you watch the film, you're like, damn. Like this

1183
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: dude's a special mover.

1184
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: No, he's fluent in every way possible.

1185
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: He's he takes that wide receiver of mind to conerback,

1186
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: and he takes that that conerback mind.

1187
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: To wide receiver, and he displaces both of them.

1188
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: Like he will find out a way to be the corner,

1189
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: just like he'll find out a way to stop a

1190
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: wide receiver.

1191
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 6: Now, in my.

1192
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: Comparisons we talked about it, I felt like it's a

1193
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: wide receiver. He's smitty Devnte Smith another guy that won

1194
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: the Heisman with the same body type in the same

1195
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: twitch as a corner baby Champ Bailey. All right, So

1196
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: I would rather have Champ did DeVante Smith? So then

1197
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: why I said I would rather put him a corner

1198
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: and swrinkle in some wide receiver because I believe that

1199
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: his defensive societies is higher inside.

1200
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: Some more valuable. I think too. I think these are

1201
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: your finalide receivers.

1202
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So I get this question all the time, and

1203
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: I know we're getting tired because Hana gave us first

1204
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: y on.

1205
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: So we're going to do this. How does spot a

1206
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: commander at the combine? Look at it? Look for clipboards

1207
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: that find the fine to call.

1208
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's from what I studied from Adam Peters

1209
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, you have to check the box. They're

1210
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: going to investigate are you a leader? Yeah, they're going

1211
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: to see do you love football? Uh, they're going to

1212
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: see you selfless?

1213
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: And so those are right. I dropped the Mico now

1214
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: with you.

1215
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: So I'll say this though, you're not going to see

1216
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: that in a forty You're not going to see that

1217
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: anywhere on the field.

1218
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: It's going to be in the interview.

1219
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and also I guess if their team captain. So

1220
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: what I would say is like, that's why this problem,

1221
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: Like we talked, we started with the interviews first because

1222
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: that's the most more thing. But all that information is

1223
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: going to be in the interviews. And so as much

1224
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: as we want to be like, oh this guy's a freak,

1225
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: he's yeah, I don't know how he is as a person.

1226
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: And you can watch in the drills and if the

1227
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: guy's breaking it down and clapping it up, but their.

1228
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: Coach do that too, so they know they're on camera. Right.

1229
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: So what I say is like, you will find a

1230
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: commander or the commanders will find it in.

1231
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: The command Yeah, in the interview and the guys what

1232
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: they bring here a couple of times, Yes.

1233
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. We're good.

1234
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: Like the way they convinced I'm gonna take you out

1235
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: of the top golf so I can sit back and

1236
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: just watch, like I want to see you in the

1237
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: environment that has nothing to do with football, like, and

1238
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: so they're more at the people than athletes, And.

1239
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: That's the best way to go about it, man, because

1240
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: if you got the right people in here, man, you can.

1241
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: Your locker room becomes what we saw this year.

1242
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: And again they're gonna find good athletes that are good people.

1243
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: But that that personal element, the top golf thing, the

1244
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: interview thing, that's where it's all going.

1245
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: But I also don't think they're gonna let the numbers

1246
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: dictate how they pick.

1247
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: They're not gonna let your forty dictated.

1248
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: They're not gonna let how many time you do the

1249
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 3: bench press, Like if you was on their board right

1250
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: there when you got there at four to four, ain't

1251
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: gonna help you climb their board. But that interview, we

1252
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: will help them.

1253
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: Help you climb it.

1254
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: And I think so too a lot of the time.

1255
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: Soon when they look at who they were today, I

1256
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: guess the team that they're leaving, you know what I mean,

1257
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: like that they're gonna look back at that player and

1258
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: like what kind of brother was he to the other guy?

1259
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: Friend? Did he leave? What kind of you know who?

1260
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: Because I mean, like.

1261
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: It must if we want to talk crap about Fred.

1262
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: Fred had the locker room always thriving, you know what

1263
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: I mean? This man like I just sit back on

1264
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: my back turn somebody was directly behind me, right across

1265
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: the dog on the locker room, and they'll be calling

1266
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: me to look to see.

1267
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: What he got going on.

1268
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: Hell, you want to get me to laugh, And I'm like, bro,

1269
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: I gotta get outside because I even to sit here

1270
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: in his locker room and listen to this jokes, to

1271
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: all this break on people. But you you want guys

1272
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: that bring guys together, And you didn't never see Fred

1273
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: with just the dbs.

1274
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: He can go over there and chop it up with

1275
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: the lineman. The d lineman in there with our damn

1276
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: trainers half of the time, and they got them crying.

1277
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: So that's what you want.

1278
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: You want a guy that you know that man when

1279
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: he comes in, not only is he going to play

1280
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: football and he's going to be a leader, even if

1281
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: he's not asked to be a leader. He's a guy

1282
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 4: that communicated and get along with everybody.

1283
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so I think that's it. That's how you

1284
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: find a commander. Right now for a last segment, hell yeah,

1285
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: Hell no, anyone specific. We're going to kind of just

1286
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: throw this in a catch all that you guys want

1287
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: to see, so they're all gonna be hell yeahs this week.

1288
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: But is there anyone specific or that you want to

1289
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: see her you're excited to see at the combine?

1290
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: And why?

1291
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: I mean I really want to see Honestly, I didn't

1292
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 4: really I never get up in for this, comeboy, so

1293
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1294
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: It's a tight turn, but it's.

1295
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: So long, man, I never watch it, But I do

1296
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: want to see how should do during cam grays out

1297
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: after all said and done at their perspective pro days,

1298
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: you know, I want to see them at their pro

1299
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: see what they do. I watched a ton of football

1300
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: of both of those guys for the last few years,

1301
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: especially Cam last year being with them being with Miami,

1302
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: and the one thing that I took from watching them

1303
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 4: this year that they can't do in the league. Everything

1304
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 4: got be sped up because they took their time with

1305
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: trying to find open guys. So now I want to

1306
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: see what they do in these drills of you know,

1307
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: and I know they can do it, but I want

1308
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: to know do it do that? Do week worry about

1309
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: that coming into the league that most of these guys

1310
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: they're going to hold onto the ball or not at

1311
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback Like do you watch a quarterback and cottage

1312
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: and say, well he hid onto the ball a lot.

1313
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: Did that just from what his offense allow him to

1314
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 4: do or do you think that's something that he does

1315
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Speaker 4: on his own.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's guys where you can see like

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00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: the anticipation, Like that anticipation word to me is you're

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Speaker 1: throwing people open and if they show signs of that,

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00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: then you can trust It'll like even if they've got

1320
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: to get better, like Je Daniel's good example, So everybody

1321
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: gotta get better something, Yes, so we didn't do a

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Speaker 1: lot of like throwing people open because the offense didn't

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Speaker 1: want it. But there was enough throws I'd say probably

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Speaker 1: twenty throws over the course of his whole career, Like

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Speaker 1: he can do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't.

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Speaker 5: WHI receiver was just torching people so bad.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to let me throw this safe ball

1329
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: up here to make sure the elite neighbors fuckers actually saw.

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Speaker 1: You saw that he got a quick release stuff. You

1331
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: saw the playmaking ability, like you see it. It's just

1332
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: like so for example, Jalen hurts like he held the

1333
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: ball a ton in college. He took a lot of

1334
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: sacks in college. She doesn't say anything now like that's

1335
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Speaker 1: there is a reason that you look for that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I brought it up because I'm thinking about Jennerherson.

1337
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: I'm saying to myself, I know, watching Miami all year,

1338
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: we was the only thing that we had a knock

1339
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: on cam, which it is hard to knock anything by him,

1340
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: and he like, man, get rid of that ball, you

1341
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1342
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Speaker 3: But see what happened when you got them legs, When

1343
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: you got them legs, like fast guy.

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Speaker 5: He's just he's just very twitchy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can, he can, he can, he can buy time,

1346
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, most definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so the other one I want to ask you

1348
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Speaker 1: about because I'm just curious. His exavier was Strepo past

1349
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Santana mos for Miami's all time receiving yards leader ever

1350
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: by a Miami Hurricane with two thousand, five hundred and

1351
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Speaker 1: seventy three yards.

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00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was mine, I believe. I'm not sure if

1353
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: that's his Dodgers. That was my thing. He shad I

1354
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: think he shattered minds. Yeah, he's a four hundred yard No,

1355
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: I did it like in three years because sold has

1356
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: he been in school? You know five?

1357
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 5: Did he get a COVID?

1358
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so he's been. He did it in two

1359
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: more years than five. But he's a dog. He's a dog.

1360
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: You look at him. This is my comp on him.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know a lot of the new new

1362
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 4: slot guys because it's like it's a guy.

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00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 5: In the Chargers you're talking about from Georgia, not him.

1364
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 4: He knows it is a it's a it's a little dude. Yeah,

1365
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: he's pretty dope. But when I look at slot receivers,

1366
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: when I look at Restrepo, I think of a Julius Edelman,

1367
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: uh West West, welcome more Edman than West. He's a

1368
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: dog though he's a He's a but he can. He

1369
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: catched the ball to me like Reggie.

1370
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Speaker 5: Wayne like, so he ain't gonna be great at no

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Speaker 5: one thing, but good at everything.

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Speaker 2: Everything he can.

1373
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: He can run outside. You can put him outside you

1374
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: want to, but I think he would. He would dominate

1375
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 4: in love with the Miami tight end Royal. We think

1376
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: we could probably get laying him over here.

1377
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Speaker 3: I think he is a ultimate, like a weapon, like

1378
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: a movie. He my member little Jordan Reid is Jordan

1379
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: readers Slash. But I'm also throwing in my dad and

1380
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: people might not like to hear this. Kevin wins Winslow list.

1381
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Speaker 2: He he does look like I Winslow. It's the eighty.

1382
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Speaker 2: I think it's the movement. It's just the man. He

1383
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: looks good when he got the ball in his hand

1384
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: and he moving like like I'm a little I'm more.

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Speaker 3: When you say am I more psyched about who can?

1386
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: I think I'm more about who can move up the draft?

1387
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: And this draft got like thirty running It's some telling

1388
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: though it got it got like thirty running back.

1389
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: So if any room crowded. It's the running back room.

1390
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: I got my eye on a couple of guys. I

1391
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: got my own. Thirty two from l s U I

1392
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: mean from state. He's from Virginia, Henderson from He's from Virginia. Boy,

1393
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: he can roll Richie.

1394
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: I like, uh South care atlanas Raheem Sanders, Rocket Sanders,

1395
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: he was at Arkansas first.

1396
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: I am very intrigued by him. A big dude.

1397
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Speaker 5: He about two thirty five, but he runs like a

1398
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 5: four three forty like he is to me.

1399
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Speaker 2: So so is the running backs coming back? Man? Because

1400
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna.

1401
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: Be no one's gonna get paid this but in this

1402
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: in this year's class, it could be thirty guys, yes,

1403
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 1: like it could be it could be thirty running backs

1404
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: drafted in the whole weekend.

1405
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: Like that's how good they are.

1406
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: You know, genty he's the front runner, but it's some

1407
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: guys behind him, Kingdon.

1408
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Johnson, I mean I got like it's Johnson, Hampton.

1409
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 5: Hampleton, Like it's so many running I saw that.

1410
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Speaker 4: I saw that watching college football this year, that there

1411
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 4: was a lot of running backs that was making bad

1412
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: for themselves every.

1413
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: Time they try to smush the position. I watched him

1414
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: try to do it with the tight ends. I watched

1415
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: him try to do it with guards. I watched try

1416
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: to do it with safeties on defense. Every time they

1417
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: try to be a little position, it shows the importance

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Speaker 3: the very next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think those are all great running backs.

1420
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: For me, it's always a big position, especially for the Cranders.

1421
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Is the offensive line, specifically Josh Shimmons from Ohio State.

1422
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Like he's coming off of a knee injuries and do

1423
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: the medical. I'm really curious to hear.

1424
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: It's a couple of guys from Ohio State, right how he.

1425
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Comes out of there, you know, so he's the left tackle,

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: he works seventy one. Mine's been a little bit of

1427
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: Big Trent. You know how he runs around like really

1428
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: special athlete, not gonna do anything at the Combine, but

1429
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his medical done and if that knee

1430
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: is on schedule, yeah, man, like he is a special

1431
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: football player. So man, we are, as you can tell,

1432
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: we're incredibly excited for the Combine. We're incredibly excited to

1433
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: kind of see these guys go through the process, Excited

1434
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: to see how it's changed.

1435
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: Excited for them. I'm excited for him, but we also

1436
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: know the weight of it. Yeah, and we also know

1437
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: the importance of it.

1438
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: And also Jason just texted me so rastrepo was twenty

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Speaker 1: eight and forty four.

1440
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Speaker 4: Yeah about I know he shared, I shared it, but

1441
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: he I say it.

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Speaker 6: I'm black that But I think that's going to do

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Speaker 6: it for today's show.

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Speaker 1: And remember for the mail back episode, which is coming

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Speaker 1: up next week. Week after we'll figure out we're gonna

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1447
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,880
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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,800
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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 4: Peace,