1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The following He is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison and Jess Navarrees. 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome into Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: the preferred dating partner the Dallas Cowboys in the SBbc Studio. 10 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 4: I'm Nicole, you are. 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 5: It's been a weeks. 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: Had to do this, y'all. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Clearly I forgot Ash Wars and Jess Navarrees and Christie Scales. Ladies, 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: we get the whole crew back to I know we 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: missed you. 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: We did, we did, It wasn't the same. 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 5: Who am I? Who am I going to pick. 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 6: On the entire you guys do? 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 7: Football is taking over my life? You know how I 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 7: know it's taking over my life. I'll be dreaming about it. Yeah, 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 7: Like I be dreaming about like I had a dream 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 7: over slipt the That's the worst. But it's that's how 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 7: I know I'm like super duper locked in, but not, 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 7: I feel better. 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 6: I'm glad to be back. 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 4: Shrine Bowl and Senior Bowl, a lot of balls going on. 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: To have one here at the Star is really cool. 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: It's a big Shrine Bowl and tonight Thursday night at 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: the at the Star. It's very exciting. So hopefully, hopefully 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: it's something world they'll continue to come back each year. 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: That would be really fun. 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 6: It would be awesome if they were able to do that. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 5: Nice to have it in your backyard. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 7: Yes, a lot of Cowboys folks have been out there 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 7: traveling with the coaches and and and the scouts and that, 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken, clearly had the most numbers out 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 7: of any team just because of the location. 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's been cool. But I'm really glad to 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 6: be back with you ladies. 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Spects going to be well, at least I hope to 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: see a big crowd out there tonight for the actual game. 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: I'll be there. 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 4: I know all of y'all will probably be there as well. 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: So a lot of things going on here at the Star. 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Some news actually we can talk about that. Dan Quinn's 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: a lot of things been going on with the whole 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: him head coaching, search. 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: I know Seattle, they. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Of course went in a different direction, hiring defensive coordinator 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: or Ravens former defensive coordinator Mike McDonald. 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: He's now the youngest head. 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: Coach in the NFL. 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 4: He'll be replacing Pete Carroll. 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: But now what's next for dan quinn Still a lot 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 3: of question marks because now he has the option of 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: either taking the a head coaching job, well if they 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: hire him at Washington, or staying here in Dallas. Different 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: situation for him. I know, in his first couple of 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: years he had the choice to actually pick the team 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: that he would you know, wanted to go to and 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: chose to stay in Dallas. Things are a little different 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: for him now. Just what are y'll thoughts as far 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: as dan q dq. Do y'all think there's still a 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: chance that he could stay here in Dallas or y'all 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: thinking that Washington commander's job is looking likely like a chance? 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: Which one? 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, in Washington, Yeah, Well, it's it's an exciting time 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: for the commanders in terms of, you know, actively looking 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: for the sites for a new stadium and this and 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: having the plethora of draft picks that they have and 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: all of the capital in terms of cap space. I mean, 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: this could be a transformative time for a franchise that 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: we take a lot of glee in the fact that 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: they've been down trodden, but it is one of the 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: great franchises historically in the NFL. So this this could 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: be a really great opportunity for dan to not just 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: for the immediate success of the Commanders, but under Josh Harrison, 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: a new ownership, really getting that franchise back on course. 80 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: And when you think of cleaning house and starting over, 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: that is the place to go do it. I mean, 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: you build that team how you want to build it. 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: Whoever goes in there as the head coach, they're starting 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: from the ground up. They have a young quarterback that 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: has glimpses of being good. He just needs more development 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: under the right coaching staff. Sam Howe absolutely has potential 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: to be viable, not just in the NFC East, but 89 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: in the NFC under the right coaching staff. I think 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: dan Quinn is the kind of coach that could go 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: in make that immediate impact for him and just the 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: entire team. Really he can create culture and something about 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: dan Quinn that he is notable for back when he 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: was in Seattle. 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 5: And then in Atlanta. 96 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: What he did is he created culture for teams that 97 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: were struggling at one point before he got there. Historically, 98 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: when he goes to a new job, that's what he does. 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn can rebuild. Look what he did here in 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: Dallas after Mike Nolan left. He rebuilt the culture within 101 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense. And so I think if you're the 102 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: commanders and you want a new culture established, you want 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: to turn the page, you want. 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: A new era. 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: If you will, dan Quinn is absolutely your guy to 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: do it. 107 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I agree. You look at the defensive 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: side of the ball for Washington and that was clearly 109 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 7: the weaker side of the ball this season. They've always 110 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 7: had fantastic skill players on the offensive side. They lost 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 7: some guys on the defensive side this year and it showed. 112 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 7: I do think they just need some foundation there as 113 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 7: far as well, they need stability as well, Like they 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 7: need to get a coach in there and that be 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 7: the coach for a minute, and that'd be the way 116 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 7: that things settle out. But I am very curious to 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 7: see what happens with him and what happens because we 118 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: talk about on the Draft show, it dictates dan Quinn 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 7: has a lot of say in the draft as well, 120 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 7: and so he has had input into the draft as 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 7: well this past three years. 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: So it could mean changes for. 123 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 7: Defensive scheme, philosophy, rosters. I mean, when coaches come into 124 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 7: a program, they have their idea of what they want, 125 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 7: and maybe some of the guys on this team right 126 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 7: now won't fit the other coach. So it's there could 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 7: be a lot of changes, not only for Washington, but 128 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 7: also to for Dallas if that is something that comes 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 7: to fruition. But either way, we love progression around here, 130 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 7: so we would definitely miss him. But at the same time, 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 7: it's his time. He's worked, he's worked his tail off 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 7: the show that he can be in that position again. 133 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 7: And honestly, there's so many head coaching jobs available I 134 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 7: don't know when that would be like this again, so 135 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 7: he has to seize the opportunity as well. 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why it was interesting. So many people were 137 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: surprised when Ben Johnson stayed in Detroit the hot name 138 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: for offensive coordinator and pulled his name out of some 139 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: of the different ones, because it's kind of like Kellen 140 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: Moore from a couple a few years ago. It's like, 141 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: you better strike while the iron is hot. Yeah, because 142 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: that opportunity may not come again. Of course, Kellen now 143 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: go into the hated division rival that the Eagles, So 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: we could talk about that. But the other thing is 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: with Washington. If with the number two overall pick in 146 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: the draft, if they decide that they want to move 147 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: on from Sam Howe and take a quarterback, then do 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: you want a defensive coach dan Quinn Aaron Glenn, the 149 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator for the Lions has been mentioned for that job, 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: or you know, do you want one of the hot 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: young offensive guys. But then you have guys like Bobby Slowick, 152 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: who's the Texans offensive coordinator, who withdrew his name and 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: resigned with the Texans. So it's interesting because a few 154 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: of the names that people were thinking would take shots 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: as new head coaches decided to take the big pay 156 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: raises and stay stay where they are. 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: Well, let's say this, well link those out there. He 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: will also be going close to home too, so that's 159 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: a good thing to do New Jersey. So it's like 160 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: a four hour trip from dc slas Maryland area, so 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: that would be a good him and his family. But 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: let's just say hypothetically speaking Washington does not go with 163 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: dan Quinn, right, and from what we've seen this season 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: with you know, especially the ending of the year, this 165 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: defense just not performing the way that they should have 166 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: performed in the wildcard round, Do y'all feel that dan 167 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: Quinn can come in and I guess tweak his way 168 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: of I guess coaching, or make the adjustments according to 169 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: because we. 170 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 5: Didn't see that, you know, in that last game. 171 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: Do you feel like he'd be willing to make those 172 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: type of coaching adjustments when it comes down a whole. 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, because he would be the only one in 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: the room that's not if he doesn't, because everybody else 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: is based on the conversations we're hearing. I don't know 176 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: if you heard Mike's podcast yesterday, everybody's having conversations and 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: how to create a super Bowl culture, And that's how 178 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: MI could put it. So, no matter who it is, 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: whether it's Dan or somebody else that has to come in, 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: you have to change the way of thinking because three 181 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: years of the same repetitive cycle over and over and over, 182 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: there has to be changed somewhere. And you know there's 183 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: not a change in staff. There could be in personnel. 184 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: We don't know yet there's a laundry list of free 185 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: agents that we've talked about. There's going to be turnover 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: and personal as we know. But if it is Dan 187 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: that stays, he has to be progressive with his thinking. 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: And it's not just him. 189 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: So does Mike McCarthy, So does John Fossil, So do 190 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: all the assistant coaches. Everybody has to change their way 191 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: of thinking or history will continue to repeat itself because 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: really nothing changed at that point. If you stay with 193 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: this the same coaching staff, same personnel, you know to 194 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: what you can at that point, but nothing will change 195 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: if you don't. And I think they're all embarrassed enough. 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: They all got the message very loud and clear that 197 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: if you don't change, history is going to repeat itself 198 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: and it's going to fill ten times worse than they 199 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: did this year. 200 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: I can't even imagine that feeling. 201 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: And it says a lot. 202 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, I'm sorry no, And it says a 203 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: lot if I don't know if everyone was able to 204 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: hear what you know, Micah had mentioned yesterday in his 205 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: podcast or the day before, and he had just said that, 206 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: you know, he talked to the coaches, the players and 207 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: pretty much every. 208 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: Goodness from Adam Schefner, from Dallas Cowboys to d C. 209 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: The Commanders are hiring Cowboys defensive coordinator. Dan Quinn is 210 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: their head coach. That happened about five minutes ago. 211 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: Congratulations Das. Yeah, he's a he's a good man. And 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: the I think the NFL is a whole I'm looking 213 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: holistically at the whole thing. This is. This is good 214 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: for the NFL if you can have one of the 215 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: traditional teams. Yeah, Washington back is really viable. 216 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 6: He was just playing all the enemies. 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 7: Kellen went to Philly, dan Quinn went to Washington. You 218 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 7: might have to You got too many people that know 219 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 7: about you in your division also too. At this point 220 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 7: they already like they know you a little in and out. 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 7: But I will say to just this point, wow, hit different. 222 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 7: And I don't even know if it's if it's an ouch. 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 7: I'm more so at this now that it's happened. I'm 224 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 7: more so now concerned for because of how long it 225 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 7: took to happen. There are a lot of the really 226 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 7: good defensive coordinators that were available are gone. 227 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: Well, do you think that they're looking outside the building 228 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: or is Joe Witt the next defensive coordinator. 229 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 7: And that could be very possible. I know that on 230 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 7: a podcast that Al Hair said, wherever Dan go, I'm 231 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 7: going to So not only are you possibly losing, because 232 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 7: that's what happens with coaches, especially head coaches. 233 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy did it. 234 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 7: He snatched people, he snatched bones, you know. So it's 235 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 7: now we have the task of finding out who he's 236 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 7: gonna who's gonna come in and or if no one's 237 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 7: gonna come in at all. But if they do stay 238 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 7: in house, if it is Joey Junior or Adam Dirdey, 239 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: who I know is highly regarded in the league as well, Yo, we. 240 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 6: Should be trying to figure out schematically. 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 7: I think that the Cowboys have been built to stop 242 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 7: the pass, take the ball away, and to rush the passer. 243 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: Typically because of that, a lot of this on the 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 7: defensive side. These guys are not huge in stature or 245 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 7: anything like that. 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 6: It's nothing wrong with that. 247 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 7: However, I do think when you get in the playoffs, 248 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 7: that has hurt you because bebe if I can run. 249 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: The ball, why am I gonna pass? 250 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 7: So for whoever does come in here, I am hoping 251 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 7: for at least some balance because this defense looks good 252 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 7: most of the year because, yeah, teams are passing. 253 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: The ball, they're everything. 254 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 7: Like just kind of mentioned, Yeah, yeah, I mean they're 255 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 7: not like teams are gonna pass the ball more. But 256 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 7: when you get into the playoffs, those are elimination games, 257 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 7: things get tight. Leaning on your run game is something 258 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 7: that a lot of the good, good teams do, good 259 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 7: offenses do, and we saw that through the playoffs. 260 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 6: So for me, I'm looking at whoever does take over. 261 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 7: We need to have a little bit more balance on 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 7: defending the run and being able to play the pass. 263 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 6: It can't be so heavily dependent on being able. 264 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 7: To rush the pastor because we've seen that when they 265 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 7: cannot rush the passer, then it really opens up a 266 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 7: plethora of issues on this defense. Address DT addressed linebacker 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 7: and then I think you'll be cooking with gas. But yeah, 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 7: holy crap, that's I know. 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 5: I'm raeling over here. I'm stressed. I'm trying to absorb 270 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: what just happened. 271 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: Well, I think the linebacker corps it was going to 272 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: be made over anyway, but especially if someone else comes 273 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: in or if there's a promotion within the ranks, just 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: going to be bigger at linebacker. I still think that 275 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: the Layton vander Esch injury was such a huge blow, 276 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: and that's kind of helped get you what to what 277 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: Asha was saying, off balance in terms of you know, 278 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 4: size yse and things like that with your front seven. 279 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just I'm trying to absorb this Quinn on 280 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: the sidelines twice a year. I'm a little shit, like, 281 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: are we absorbing that? You have to see Dan Quinn 282 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: on the sidelines twice a year? You have to scheme 283 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: against Kellen Moore. 284 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 5: Twice a year? That's wild? 285 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: What a what an NFC East matchup? 286 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. It's just it's just more. Yeah, it 287 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: just makes it more so it's the East, it's all. 288 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: It's been salty the past couple of decades, three decades 289 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: with these two, with the with the Eagles. But now 290 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: now we got some fire back. Sorry with the Washington You're. 291 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 5: I'm scrolling on Twitter. 292 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: We're trying to see reactions here. 293 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy, y'all. 294 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 6: Are I'm a little sick? 295 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: Y'all? 296 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 5: Are not so. 297 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: Not? 298 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 6: I was mad at him, but I wouldn't have me. 299 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: I I ultimately though, good for now, good for taking 300 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: a job that he earned and don't let that last 301 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: game for you headache. 302 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: He earned this position. 303 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I wish it was literally with any other team 304 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: in the NFC East, uh, or any other team in 305 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: the NFL. 306 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: I should say that it's not in the NFCS. 307 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 7: The only thing that is arking me that it's it's 308 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 7: it's arcing me. That's so many like I get in again. 309 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 7: I understand that they might have been playing to hire 310 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 7: someone in house. I think jo with Junior is fantastic, but. 311 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, even even guys that could. 312 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 7: Have been coordinators and stuff are gone like this, it's 313 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 7: it's I mean two weeks, it's. 314 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: It's how many weeks have been since they lost three. 315 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 7: So I mean kind of waging on this like that's 316 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 7: the only thing that is really bothering. 317 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: But I'm glad you mentioned coach of Dirty earlier because 318 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: he's uh, he was getting mentioned. He was getting interviews 319 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: for coordinator around the league and for those that don't know, 320 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: he's the Cowboys defensive line coach. Adam justin such a 321 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: great chat about that. 322 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: He said one of the next questions will be whether 323 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn attempts to bring any other added Cowboys assistant 324 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: coaches with him to Washington, such as defensive backs coach 325 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: El Harris or defensive line coach Aiden Dirty. Both have 326 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: been defensive coordinatorate candidates. If Dallas grants permission for coaches 327 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: under contract. 328 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: Well, see that's the thing. If you're under contract, you 329 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: can't make lateral moves with the existing club. The person 330 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: that the team that has you under contract does not 331 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: have to allow you to leave if it's lateral move. 332 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: So you know, going from a position coach to a 333 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator would be a promotion and things like that, 334 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: or assistant head coach, things like that. So that's going 335 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: to be really interesting. I don't have in front of 336 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: me the contract status of the other assistant coaches on 337 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: the Cowboys defensive side of the ball, so it'll be 338 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: interesting to see, but there will be is alluded to 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: a lot of moving parts now that the first domino 340 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 4: has fallen. 341 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Also, the free agency list, let's not forget a lot 342 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: of those. 343 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 5: Guys were Dan Quinn guys. 344 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: You know, hey, if Jordan Lewis isn't re signed here 345 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: or Jay Ron curse, look we'll be seeing him in 346 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: Burgundy and Gold next year. 347 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: The thought of Jordan Lewis and no Washington Jersey. 348 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: I'm stressing. 349 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's that's exactly Go ahead and pick 350 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: our first. 351 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: You're watching girls talk, boys Talk saw The preferre dating 352 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: partner of the Dallas Cowboys will be right back. 353 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 8: We know that juicy, cheesy, grilled to perfection burger sounds amazing, 354 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 8: but it does sound like something is missing. 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Yes, you love it. 378 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: I'm going through it right now and let me channel 379 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 5: how I need to. 380 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to tweet it, but I'm. 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: Sure I was thinking about you earlier in the week, Jess, 382 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: when it was announced that Jake Ferguson's now going to got. 383 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: Pro Bowl. It's going to be very excited for him. 384 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: It is. 385 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: I'm not excited for what I have to do for 386 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: the rest of today's that's the news. 387 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 7: You know. 388 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: You have to find joy in it, right, You have 389 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: to find joy in the day and to have do 390 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: I need to find joy in the day for Dan 391 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: as a person, for him, Yes, for me. 392 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: No, col Yeah, there's gonna be a lot. 393 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: Of work for you. 394 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, it's gonna work. 395 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: We love it. 396 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: We love some stuff to write about in the off season. 397 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: You look stressed. 398 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: Because I don't even know what is defensive I don't know, sugar. 399 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: Honey, baby begins, because. 400 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 6: I think we'll know. 401 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 7: I will say though, like I think we'll know something 402 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: very here soon, because that's how other teams have done it. 403 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 7: As soon as that head coach, that coach was gone 404 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 7: or something, they're like h and also, so hopefully in 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: the next. 406 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 6: Four hours we know who our person is. 407 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: One thing that you can say about the Jones is 408 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys organization is they know how to multitask. 409 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: So this is not catching anybody by surprise. And just 410 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: because interviews aren't being reported doesn't mean that there aren't 411 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 4: back channel things that have been going on. So this 412 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 4: is this is not a surprise to anybody in this building. 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: Are there any. 414 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: Options, Christy that you you see taking this new defensive 415 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: coordinator position. 416 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: Outside of Joe? I say, it's more yeah, add and dirty, Okay, yeah, 417 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: if you're staying in house. I think it's most likely 418 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: that the Cowboys stay in house. But but again, but again, 419 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: it also depends who Dan may take with them and 420 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: who the Cowboys may release. The thing is, if you're 421 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: bringing in someone from outside, they're gonna want their own 422 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: guys on the staff, and so you would release a 423 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 4: lot of your own guys to go with Dan. So 424 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: that's what I say. This is the first domino to 425 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: fall for this Cowboys defensive staff, but there could be several. 426 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: So now you got to go up against like we 427 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: kind of touched on a little bit, but I want 428 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: to dive more into that. You gotta see Dan Quinn 429 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: tice twice a year. You've got to see Kellen Moore 430 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: now twice with Hilly. 431 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: You've got to. 432 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: See Vic Fangio, who, of course wasn't you know, he 433 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: has a lot of history the Cowboys as far as 434 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: just they haven't had a lot of success against him. 435 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: So a lot of thay it's against McCarthy, But just 436 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: talking about you know the fact that you have to 437 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: see all those guys. 438 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 6: I ain't scared, you know what, I ain't scared of him. 439 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: What impact does that have though for this Cowboys team? 440 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 7: I mean it's it may not have any impact at 441 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 7: all because Kellen hasn't been in this Remember when they. 442 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 6: Were like thirty percent and then the. 443 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 7: Offense ended up looking totally different at some point in time. 444 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 7: Kellen doesn't have a really good beat to me on 445 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 7: you know what. 446 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 5: The new era? 447 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, what the new era is. 448 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 7: And also too, with the Q gone, you could see 449 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 7: a change in in defensive philosophy or maybe there's some 450 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 7: wrinkles or whatever. 451 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: So there is some. 452 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 7: Unknown that I think will also matter moving forward. And 453 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 7: as far as Dan Quinn being the head coach, he's 454 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 7: going to be the head coach, not the defensive coordinator, right, 455 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 7: so he will have impact, he will have input. I'm 456 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 7: sure maybe he does. He maybe might the DC might 457 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 7: he might he might be the DC. 458 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 6: So, I mean, we've seen I'm gonna say one thing. 459 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be hot if you go over there and 460 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 7: be like, you know what, just let me change my philosophy. 461 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna be hot. 462 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 7: Let me see three hundred forty found DT's over there. 463 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be they They drafted Mazzie Smith in the 464 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: first round last year. 465 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: Uh huh, you know, I mean, so like what he's. 466 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: It was a very disappointing rookie class in terms of performing. 467 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: We talked about on the Draft show, disappointed, and it 468 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 6: puts a lot. 469 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 7: Of pressure, a crack ton of pressure for them to 470 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 7: excel this draft. Absolutely, and and also too, you gave 471 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 7: up a fourth for Trey Lance yep, and you traded 472 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 7: for Brandon Cooks and you traded for Gilmore. Yeah, so 473 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 7: you're lacking in those middle rounds and it matters. So 474 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 7: it's like I also wondered again, trickle down effect. You 475 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 7: start thinking about does anyone have right ability on this team? 476 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 7: If there are gentlemen that don't want to, you know, 477 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 7: stay after Dan Quinn leaves and stuff. 478 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 6: Like that, because somebody's guys I really love that man. Yeah, 479 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 6: so I wouldn't. 480 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 7: We'll see, like it's a trickle down effect. I want 481 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 7: to see how the dominos fall. You know. 482 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, we heard Jerry talking about going all in 483 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: yeah this year, and I know we were going to 484 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: talk about that. 485 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: But here's the thing. I think when it. 486 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: Comes to going all in, you go all in on 487 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: the draft finding plug and play kind of players because, 488 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: like you said, rookie class underperformed and it showed because 489 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: when Jonathan Hankins, perfect example, Jonathan Hankins goes out. First 490 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: guy you call up Mazzie Smith, he didn't perform. In fact, 491 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: when you look at the amount of snaps that he 492 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: took during the season, it was around twenty percent for 493 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: your first round draft picking. 494 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 5: Given. 495 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: I know the nose tackle position is a difficult learn. 496 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: Talk to Hank about it why it's so hard to learn, 497 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: and he said it took him about three years to 498 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: really understand the job of an MT. So I'm not 499 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: knocking Mazie in any way. I'm just saying in terms 500 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: of if you're drafting a guy first round, second round, third, 501 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: or I don't care, they need to be plug and 502 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: play kind of players. While these rookies from this year 503 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: make impactful year two jumps to make up for what 504 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: they could be losing in this offseason, what they might 505 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: not be able to reacquire, and guys that are going 506 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: to be coming back from injury. 507 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 5: We've seen that. 508 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 2: We've seen it this year, We've seen it years prior. 509 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: It takes time for these guys to come back from injury. 510 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: It's up to these younger guys. 511 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: To step it up now and this rookie class coming 512 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: in better fill the heat that they need to perform 513 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: instantly upon arrival. You can grow, you can learn after 514 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: training camp, come preseason, be ready. 515 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: I need to see you ready to plug and play. 516 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was critical of I was critical what we 517 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 7: talked about on the show Undraft show, like what were 518 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 7: your thoughts about this year's draft class? 519 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 6: And I felt like. 520 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 7: The Cowboys were a bit content, Yeah, and how they drafted. 521 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 7: And when I say that is I think they were. 522 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 7: They went out and got Stefan Gilmour, they went out 523 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 7: and got Brandon Cooks. 524 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 6: They knew that Brandon. 525 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: Brandon, they knew that Jonathan hank Kiss was unk, was 526 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 7: coming back for another year. And I felt like they 527 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 7: went into the draft and didn't they got all the guys. 528 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 7: When you go down the list of the draft guys, 529 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 7: you say, besides the Marvin overshown and even then he 530 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 7: still had room to girl, You're like, oh, this guy 531 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: will be better next year, very much. So a lot 532 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: of them were developmental type guys. And so to your point, 533 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: just when you talk about plug and play, I think 534 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 7: that's going to be important in this draft, is that 535 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 7: they absolutely get people who are ready right now. Obviously 536 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 7: development never stops, but. 537 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: And especially for certain positions. Yeah, because you could have 538 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: longer than others. 539 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you didn't get. 540 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: Nothing from schoon as a receiver, so you hurt. So 541 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: Scoonmaker ended up with eight catches. And here's the thing. 542 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: He was on the field for thirty one one percent 543 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: of snaps. Now he's a blocker. You know, he's not 544 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 4: going to be your primary target at tight end. But 545 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 4: remember Hindershot missed so much of the season with injury, 546 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: and Sean mccun was he played a lot early but 547 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: then ended up on ir So Schoonmaker was out there 548 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 4: a lot, a lot of two tight end sets, but 549 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: still to have that amount of plays on the field. 550 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: And in fact, it's and I'm not bagging on Schoonmaker, 551 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 4: but when it's a second round pick, did he do 552 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: his job as a blocker? You know, the run game, 553 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: the stats didn't weren't where they needed to be. But 554 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 4: in Mozzie Smith it was just over just over a 555 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 4: quarter of the snaps and everything, but a lot of 556 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: that came. It was shorts the two thirds part of 557 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 4: the season or later than that when Hankins was out 558 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 4: that Mozzi's number of plays went up. And because at 559 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: the early part of the season, you know, he was 560 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: barely getting on the field. Schoonmaker. I will say one 561 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 4: thing though, Remember he was coming off the injury and 562 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: the off season in camp, and so he had a 563 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: slow start to begin. But when Hindershot and McCune weren't factors, 564 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 4: you know, schoon Maker wasn't really a factor in the 565 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: in the passing game. 566 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about I guess we can switch gears and 567 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: going all in. As far as Jerry he is, the 568 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: word for word, it was we will be going all in. 569 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: I would say that you will see us this coming year, 570 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: not build it for the future. So that clearly means 571 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: right now, have y'all heard that before? 572 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: Every year? Every year rinse and repeats No, let me, 573 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: let me just ask this. 574 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: Started. That's my question. 575 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: What else is he supposed to say? 576 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: No, that's true. 577 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: Of course they're of course they're all in every year. Yeah, 578 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: of course you're all. 579 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 5: You wouldn't be an NFL team if you weren't. 580 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: Right. 581 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: Well, but it to the way that I took that 582 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: was in terms of they'll be more aggressive and free agency. 583 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I pray, I mean have mercy linebackers something. 584 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 7: Uh yeah, a lot of dts in this this upcoming 585 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 7: free agency lots of linebackers in this upcoming free agency, 586 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 7: a few running backs stop playing game stuck. There are 587 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 7: some positions that I feel as though, like, yes, you 588 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 7: can have a rookie there and they might excel and 589 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 7: play well, but linebacker DT those type of things. Please, 590 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 7: for the love of muffins, bring in a veteran to 591 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 7: solidify those spots and and so you could take some 592 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 7: of the pressure off of some of these young guys 593 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 7: so they can be And also too, when you do that, 594 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 7: it allows these young guys to have first. 595 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 6: Legs when you start getting later into the season. 596 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 7: Because I do think we saw somewhere and some exhaustion 597 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 7: from this defensive line. But a lot of that is 598 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 7: because what are you getting from, Sam Williams? Where are 599 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 7: you getting from some of these younger guys and these 600 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 7: UNMASI where you getting from? 601 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 6: These younger guys on the defensive line didn't get much? 602 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 7: And so for me all in, all in needs to 603 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 7: be also to not being so heavily reliant on some 604 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 7: of these young players and being able. I know the 605 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 7: Cowboys are a draft and developed team. I understand that. 606 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 7: I understand that they like to play their own guys, 607 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: But in some instances, we're just seeing too many times 608 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 7: that people go out, other teams go out and get. 609 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: A veteran guy to solidify a spot. 610 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 7: They kind of sprinkle in some talent around them, and 611 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 7: then they're able to go forth. 612 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: We're trying to go forth cheering please. 613 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: Like well, but they are well positioned. The Cowboys in 614 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: terms of the salary cap this year is going to 615 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: be two hundred and forty two million, five hundred thousand, 616 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: so just over two hundred and forty two million. Well, 617 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: the Cowboys last year, I think one of the criticisms 618 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: was where they all in when they didn't address linebacker, 619 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, or make a trade to help midway through 620 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: the part of the season, or bring in some of 621 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: these free agents. Because they had ten million dollars that 622 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: was available last year that they carried over. Okay, so 623 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: that means that their rollover cap space from last season 624 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: is ten point eight million. So that means that basically 625 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty three million that they have, uh 626 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: so spend this just to spend this year. So if 627 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: there were a couple of specific targets, let's say linebacker, 628 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 4: what's going to happen at safety? If they don't bring 629 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: jay Ron Curse back. You know, will they address a 630 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: defensive line? So you know you could, and what are 631 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: you going to do at running back? 632 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: Right? 633 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: You have to start with Dak's contract first. 634 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's a great thing. 635 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: Else because forty million dollars, that's two hundred and fifty 636 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: million minus sixty that's already one hundred ninety million right there. 637 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: You want to talk about being all in, that's where 638 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: it starts. 639 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 5: That's where it starts with your quarterback. 640 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, because that's gonna take. 641 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 5: It starts with the quarterbacks contract. You gotta you gotta 642 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: get that down. Go from there. 643 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: And and Jerry talked about taking a holistic approach, which okay, 644 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, take whatever approach you want, just get 645 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: it done. I don't care what your approaches. But in 646 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: terms I wanted to add in sorry. 647 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 6: My phone, Yeah, that's what I'm you know. 648 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: Life of life of a reporter. 649 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: But what's to me, Christy to bounce off of what 650 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: you said about that? Jerry's all in comment kind of 651 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: referred to free agency. I think you kind of started 652 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: to see that last season in terms of Stefan Gilmour 653 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: and Brandon Cooks. They went all in because it was 654 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: shocking really at that point you're like, wait, got Steffan Gilmore. 655 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 5: Oh, wait now we have Brandon Cooks. What's going on? 656 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: And then use draft capital of trading draft. 657 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: Picks exactly, and so that was going all in. But 658 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: then at that point it was kind of like, Okay, 659 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: well then what so you can't say you're going all 660 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: in and then stop doing it at some point, because yes, 661 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: there were there were attempts to bring guys in, especially 662 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: with the linebacker Cord. There were attempts, weren't successful attempts, 663 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: and that's fine, but I also think there could have 664 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: been attempts sooner when you knew Layton was not returning 665 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: for the season. And I think that's what frustrates me is, yes, 666 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: you can go all in, and they did to an 667 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: extent early on in free agency. You got two really 668 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: key impact, plug and play players that definitely made a 669 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: difference for this team. But then what then, what how 670 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: did you continue to go all in last year? So 671 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: for me this year, that same aggressive mentality of going 672 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: after acquiring trades or doing whatever you need to do 673 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: in free agency, restructuring contracts, extending contracts, be aggressive, but 674 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: continuously be aggressive, especially when it's needed during the season. 675 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: Don't just stop when the off season ends. 676 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: That's a good point. 677 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 7: I wanted to add to that because when you look 678 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 7: at even the Ravens, they looked at Patrick Quan who 679 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 7: a lot of people for a second was like, hey, 680 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 7: they ain't living uptexss. This is notw we thought we're 681 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 7: gonna get from this player. They saw Rokwan Smith and 682 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 7: was like, you know what, he can probably make this 683 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 7: player better. That's the mentality also too, I'm looking for 684 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 7: is you when you have youth, and there is youth 685 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 7: on this team, they need mentorship, they need coaching outside 686 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 7: of coaching, and I do think specifically this linebacker corps, 687 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 7: especially with Layton going out, it mattered. But the thing is, 688 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 7: to just this point, you knew Layton has health issue. 689 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 7: Like battles, no one can plan for de Marian Overshown 690 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 7: getting hurt. 691 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 6: But that's preseason. 692 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: So again, you had opportunity early in the season to 693 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 7: go attack this. 694 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 6: However, you said we're gonna lean on our guys in house. 695 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 7: We're gonna and I just think that's the difference that 696 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 7: I want to be made is yeah, can those guys 697 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 7: play sure, but we are in a position to win 698 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 7: right now. We need to fix this right now because 699 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 7: it came back to bite you in huge games. 700 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: And I you agree to your point that they could. 701 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 7: Have addressed some of this stuff earlier than what they 702 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 7: decided to. 703 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: So why don't y'all think that mindset is. 704 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 7: There because they that's well, you know the one thing. 705 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you say, oh, they didn't, but you know that 706 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: you have contracts coming up with DAK right CD, Yeah, 707 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: and then Micah and so and so to take that 708 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: ten million dollars and carried over that's something that the 709 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: Cowboys have done the last decade. But that, believed me, 710 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 4: they did not do in the mid to late nineties, 711 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: the early odds, the early teens. It was all it 712 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: was chips in the table and then you were in 713 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: salary cap hell. So I know that Cowboy fans get 714 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: frustrated and complained about this, but you were complaining about 715 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 4: it the other way. So it's a yin and a yang, 716 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: and when the yang, you want the yen, and when 717 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: the yin, you want the yang. 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I'm 763 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 4: going to be in Las Vegas next week, so won't 764 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: be a part of the podcast next week, but I 765 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: just want to share some little nuggets that when you 766 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: are at your Super Bowl party, when I'm going to 767 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 4: go to the Taylor Swift Bowl, that's right. So when 768 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: when you're at your super Bowl party or when you're 769 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: planning stuff, you can impress your friends and family with 770 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: some of the little nuggets that you can drop in 771 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: during the Super Bowl broadcast for the preparation. So that 772 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 4: is let's start off with a very basic one. How 773 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 4: did the Super Bowl get its name? So the NFL 774 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 4: AFL Championship, right, the first one was played in nineteen 775 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 4: sixty seven, so it was championship from nineteen sixty six. 776 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 4: You had two different leagues, competitive competing leagues, the AFL 777 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 4: and the NFL. They meet for the NFL AFL Championship 778 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: what four years later would start to be known as 779 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and started with Roman numerals. But how 780 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 4: did the Super Bowl get its name? 781 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 3: Because they were both like awesome teams, super tea ball season. 782 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 6: Please, I'm very curious about. 783 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: So the name. If you do not know this name, 784 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 4: you should. Lamar Hunt, the late Lamar Hunt in the 785 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: NFL Hall of Fame owner. Now his son Clark runs 786 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 4: the Kansas City chiefs. But the Hunt family, they're from Dallas. 787 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: And so anyways, so Lamar was one of the movers 788 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 4: and shakers of the AFL, and so as the AFL 789 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: leaders are working with the NFL leaders as well as 790 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 4: the broadcasters for this championship game where the two leagues meet, 791 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: he remembered daughter Sharon and the sons they Clark and Dan. 792 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: At home. Back then, we all had the little super Bowls, 793 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 4: just those little bouncy balls, and so super Bowl comes 794 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 4: from super Bowl, and super Bowl was coined by Lamar Hunt. 795 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 4: And in fact, in fact, one of the little super 796 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 4: balls is on display in Canton, Ohio at the Pro 797 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. And that's how the super Bowl, 798 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: the NFL AFL championship game became known as the super Bowl. 799 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 4: And then another fun fact we use is like, which 800 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 4: super Bowl is this? It's VX whatever. It's all these 801 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 4: Roman numerals. It's like, yeah, those of us that have 802 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 4: a hard time remembering Roman numerals. So this is super 803 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 4: Bowl fifty eight coming up. Why does the NFL use 804 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: Roman numerals for the Super Bowl? 805 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 5: Great question, I don't know, I don't know. 806 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's because it's because the game itself is played 807 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 4: the next year, So the Super Bowl super Bowl is 808 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 4: being played in February of twenty twenty four, but it's 809 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: to determine the champion of the twenty twenty three season. 810 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 4: So for example, going back to the first Super Bowl 811 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: sixty six season, played in January of nineteen sixty seven, 812 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 4: by the time they got to the fourth win, this 813 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: was officially the merger of the NFL and AFL. In 814 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 4: nineteen seventy they started using Roman numerals, So when the 815 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 4: Cowboys won Super Bowl twenty seven, that was the nineteen 816 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 4: ninety two season. Game was played in nineteen ninety three, 817 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: so it's to avoid the confusion of the year being 818 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: played in the next year. But then you have the 819 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: confusion of Roman numerals, and it's hard to remember that 820 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: X means ten and L is fifty and one. 821 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 6: So yeah, struggling. 822 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 4: So that's why, that's why I know that. Yeah, And 823 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 4: then and then I've got one more for you. Go ahead, 824 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 4: and we're going to go back to Lamar Hunt because 825 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: I mentioned that Lamar and his family they're from Dallas. 826 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 4: In fact, Mar Hunt and the late Norma Hunt lived 827 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 4: right across the street from Jerry Jones there in Island 828 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: off Preston Road. 829 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 830 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 4: So anyway, what is the special tie that the Kansas 831 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,959 Speaker 4: City Chiefs organization franchise has to Dallas and the Cowboys? Wait, 832 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: you guess first. 833 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 2: FC Dallas does that have something to do with FC Dallas. 834 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 4: Lamar Hunt is in the Soccer Hall of Fame as 835 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 4: well as the Pro Football Hall of Fame because the 836 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 4: Hunt family, Yes did found FC Dallas and Lamar was 837 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 4: a mover and shaker for decades in soccer. But while 838 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 4: that is true, that is not the tie in with 839 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. But this fact that you said Dallas 840 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 4: is important. Okay, I issue anybody else. What were the 841 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs Before they were the Kansas City Chiefs, 842 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 4: they were the direct competitors of the Dallas Cowboys as 843 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 4: an AFL team started the same time the same expansiencies 844 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty as the Dallas Cowboys. They both shared 845 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 4: the Cotton Bowl Wow. Games were played on Fridays and 846 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 4: Saturdays back then because of conflicts. You know, the AFL 847 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: had a game on Sunday, then the Cowboys had it 848 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 4: the same weekend. They might play on a Saturday and 849 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 4: you might be shocked to know that the Chiefs, excuse me, 850 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 4: the Dallas Texans at the time outdrew the Dallas Cowboys 851 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 4: weekly at the Cotton Bowl. After three years of the 852 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 4: Dallas Texans and the Dallas Cowboys AFL and NFL competing 853 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 4: against each other in the same market, Lamar Hunt saw 854 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 4: the riding on the wall and found a very good 855 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 4: opportunity in terms of stadium and lease and all of that, 856 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: and moved the team to Kansas City, thereby leaving the 857 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys as the lone professional football franchise in Dallas. 858 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 4: So the Kansas City Chiefs used to play at the 859 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: Cotton Bowl in Dallas, and in fact were the Dallas 860 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 4: Texans for their first three seasons before moving to Kansas City. 861 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 4: And the reason they're called the Chiefs, I know, they 862 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: play at Arrowhead Stadium and you have the fans doing 863 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: what is now the politically and correct, you know, they're 864 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 4: it's kind of the theme. But the reason why they 865 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 4: were called the Chiefs is the mayor of Kansas City 866 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 4: at that time that brought that worked with Lamar Hunt 867 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: and Lord Lamar and the Dallas Texans to Kansas City. 868 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 4: They named him the Chiefs because the mayor. That was 869 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 4: his nickname. Everyone called him. The Chief was very involved 870 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: with the Boy Scout troops and things like that, and 871 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 4: so anyway, so the Chiefs, it's not named necessarily for 872 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 4: Native Americans, is actually named for the mayor who helped 873 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 4: Laura Lamar hunt. So there you go, history with Christy. 874 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 5: I love it. 875 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, little Christopedia, see Christery. 876 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm having a rough enough day already. 877 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, the other fun fact, it's kind of hard 878 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: to say. You like, for example, the Chiefs would draw 879 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 4: like twenty four thousand fans on average to the Cotton Bowl, 880 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys drew like twenty one thousand fans like 881 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: that first season, but you don't have accurate counts. It's 882 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 4: kind of especially the Cowboys. It's rounded numbers like twenty 883 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: one thousand and sixteen thousand, ten thousand. Well, it was hard. 884 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 4: They had trouble selling tickets, right, and so they gave 885 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 4: a lot away. You'd have kids sneak. I've had so 886 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 4: many older gentlemen tell me that when they were kids, 887 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 4: they would sneak through the slit in the fence and 888 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 4: go into the game, sneak in through the end zone. 889 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 4: Slit in the fence and things like that. But anyway, 890 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 4: the real reason why they didn't have accurate counts at 891 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 4: the Cotton Bowl was because the first few years in 892 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 4: the sixties when the teams were there, they didn't have turnstiles, 893 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 4: so they honestly at the stadium, so they honestly didn't 894 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 4: know how many people were there. So they were just 895 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,479 Speaker 4: kind of using like crowd counts, you know. 896 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 5: Right, I didn't even know that. I don't know. 897 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 4: Anymore than they ever wanted to know. 898 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 7: Right now, so you tell me that little clicky thing 899 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 7: we walked through is counting people. 900 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, you didn't know that. Now it's a turnstile. 901 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 5: You didn't know. 902 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 4: They also sometimes you'll see them on sometimes you'll see 903 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 4: them on streets. Sometimes you'll see them on streets, and 904 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: it's so that and it'll count the number of tires 905 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: that go over them. And that's how civil engineers and 906 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 4: managers know how much road traffic shocks. Mm hmm. 907 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 5: I'm worried. 908 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 4: I'm worried about work security. 909 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 5: Everybody. 910 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 3: I wasn't asked for a score predictions from there. 911 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: Well, you have to go with the chiefs with their 912 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 4: tie to the count. 913 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 2: Doubt going for the Chiefs, for the Tider Taylor Swift. 914 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking, Swift. 915 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 6: I'm going for the Chiefs. 916 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 5: One for Taylor Swift. 917 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 6: I can't for san. 918 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 5: Fran only because I don't like Sanfran. 919 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 6: I cannot. 920 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 4: That's exactly. 921 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 6: I cannot root for those people. I cannot. They have 922 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 6: ruined our day too many times. 923 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 4: I can't do it. 924 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 7: They don't care whether just do it boom box. 925 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 4: I don't want to it. 926 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm so stick a m. 927 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 5: So we're all going for the Chiefs here. I know 928 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 5: it hurts, doesn't hurt. 929 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: That bad, Yes, it is for me as a Swifty 930 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm living now. 931 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 7: Isaia Pacheco has become one of my favorite his story, 932 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 7: his story, how he runs, why he runs, the way 933 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 7: he runs. He's become one of my favorite running back, 934 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 7: maybe my favorite running back in the NFL right now. 935 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 7: So I might be going for cancer. 936 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 5: Oh it hurts you to say that. 937 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 3: Okay, she wants to throw up on that note. We'll 938 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: see y'all next week. We'll see y'all next. 939 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 5: Week, guys. 940 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 941 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.