WEBVTT - Ep. 88: Tight Lines, Degenerate Anglers

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<v Speaker 1>Some asshole is going to spill the beans. And that

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<v Speaker 1>asshole is me because I have purchased these. Oh you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've seen some ridiculous ship happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>water in fifteen years ago. You couldn't have said it

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<v Speaker 1>much better. Buy back when Myles was on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more, a lot more think pieces were

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<v Speaker 1>being read it. I mean that that stuff took a

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<v Speaker 1>good morning to general. Anglers said, welcome to Bent one

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<v Speaker 1>final time, the fishing podcast that we've had going on

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<v Speaker 1>here for a year and a half. And I said

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<v Speaker 1>last week, don't be sad, don't be sad. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a New Orleans funeral. This is a this is a

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<v Speaker 1>celebration not of life, not death. And joining me for

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<v Speaker 1>that celebration. Oh my god, it's Hayden Samack and Phil

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<v Speaker 1>freaking Taylor is here. Phil him Man, you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>me back. I'm here. Yeah. We gotta we gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>Phil on on the on the on the final episode here.

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<v Speaker 1>How could we not Joe? How could we not you

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<v Speaker 1>sound kissed. I didn't want him here, man, this was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be Joe. In my moment, Miles would have

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<v Speaker 1>been here too. We just can't afford to call New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that. I've never figured out time zones. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one years old. I'll get to it eventually. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, Heyden, if this is a joyous funeral and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to recreate that meme of the dudes dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the coffin, we need we need at least three

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<v Speaker 1>people to hold a coffin. That's true, true, Depending on

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<v Speaker 1>who's coffin, maybe more. But anyway, Yeah, so yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's let's let's talk what have what have we

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<v Speaker 1>done here? I gotta say, um, like, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've enjoyed about Bent so much has just

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<v Speaker 1>been how it has not been your standard fishing podcast

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<v Speaker 1>from from the beginning, you know, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going back, Phil, Phil, we we had a it took us.

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<v Speaker 1>It took us a while to get going there, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always felt for you as the as the editor,

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<v Speaker 1>with us just dumping all these segments. How was that

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<v Speaker 1>was that for you? It was? Honestly, it became a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well old machine quickly, quick quickly, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>not upset with how fast it became very manageable. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much behind the scenes uh details

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<v Speaker 1>people want, but I mean they can probably put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Bent is a it's an endeavor. Every week, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and Haydon and previously Miles. You know, there's six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven segments. Some of them are interviews. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them have to be written in, especially in the case

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<v Speaker 1>back back when Myles was on the podcast and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more, a lot more think pieces were being read.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that stuff took all This is why

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Phil to come, because we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. And so so every week, you know, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>Miles and Hayden would be uploading files on on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a drive for me to find and then I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to piece them all together. And it's I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say the first two or three weeks were a process,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, this was I I this is my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>show to work on and and you guys have made

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<v Speaker 1>it easy on the back end. This was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>show to host. Man challenges decide though, I will say, like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember early on people sort of either

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<v Speaker 1>loved or hated Ben and then a lot came back

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<v Speaker 1>around in the format, but from a creativity perspective. It

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<v Speaker 1>has kept it interesting despite being hard work like it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been so much fun coming up with all

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<v Speaker 1>these segments. And I think back like segments aside, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just been like some wacky ship that has happened throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this entire year and a half, Like there's things like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't buy. As an example, episode fifteen, when a

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<v Speaker 1>car drove right through Miles house while we were recording,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what that sounded like, Hey dude, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta pause. Something crazy just happened in my house

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta go check it out. Something okay, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what I did after that, when I promoted

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<v Speaker 1>it on Instagram was I superimposed a Salt Life sticker

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<v Speaker 1>onto the back windshield of the car that drove through

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<v Speaker 1>his house. And I guess I did too good of

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<v Speaker 1>a job because people were like, holy sh it, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have a Salt Life sticker on it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>made Salt Life inadvertently look worse. But anyway, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing has been about segments. We certainly have

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<v Speaker 1>cornerstone ones that if you haven't figured it out already,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is our sort of this is our

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<v Speaker 1>greatest hits. This is just kind of the some some

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<v Speaker 1>core guys here talking about what bent was. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are certainly cornerstone segments UM, and for me, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>one was always smooth Moves. And I think that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Not no, not fish news, not fish news.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, there's one part of fish news

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<v Speaker 1>that was my favorite, which we'll get too later, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the actual compiling of the news. Fish news

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<v Speaker 1>always seemed to me, man like if we're having like

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<v Speaker 1>a totally honest discussion about this, UM, fishers always seem

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<v Speaker 1>to me is like more of like a dutiful thing

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<v Speaker 1>like it Like it was, it was something that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to inform people that, I mean, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a way to bring UM long form substance to

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<v Speaker 1>an otherwise totally substanceless park. No, but it was never

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<v Speaker 1>like the thing that I look forward to the most.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I look forward to the most was

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<v Speaker 1>always like talking with folks and yeah, hearing about these

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<v Speaker 1>little like quirky nuances of people who took fishing as

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<v Speaker 1>like a major part of their life, like their identity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought smooth Moves just such a fun insight into

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of guides and charter captains, etcetera. I always

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<v Speaker 1>got off on it because I know so many of

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<v Speaker 1>these people personally, and when you're sitting around drinking beers

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day with these people, like

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<v Speaker 1>all they do is bitch about clients, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, and it's like one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>parts of talking to a guide is hearing this stuff. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why that one worked so well. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like you guys know, there is one that stands

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<v Speaker 1>out above all. And in a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>all those smooth moves, some of them were terrific, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's one that stands out above all. And you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know which one. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But here we get there. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some like other noteworthy I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>but by all means, who are your runners up? Feel

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any, feel free to wear in. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The two that I loved. One was very recent. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One was a little bit further back. I loved the

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<v Speaker 1>the tech tycoon who shall not be named, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I was going up forgot about that

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<v Speaker 1>wanting an approximation of what percentage of his body was

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<v Speaker 1>about to be covered in water. Um. I also really

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<v Speaker 1>liked one of our By the way, everybody guess Zuckerberg

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<v Speaker 1>or Elon Musk, and one of those is right, I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't give the full reveal. Well. Uh, the other

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<v Speaker 1>one that I really loved was I think our our

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<v Speaker 1>last smooth Moves, which was your buddy Bart talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his Uh it's a pretty good closer for for smooth moves.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, Yeah, I felt bad because what we were

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at was actually horrible. Um in like the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of a raccoon family. Yeah, well, uh, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>hand all the elements scaring the old people, bad sandwiches,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, blood and guts. But there's one and and

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<v Speaker 1>and our longtime listeners are gonna know exactly where we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are going all the way back to episode six.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is episode so think about that. Like the standout,

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<v Speaker 1>like the one that shines above all the others, is

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to episode six with fishing guide

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy Urick. Why this is where we reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>a guide, or a charter captain or an outfitter, basically

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who pays their bills or part of their bills

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<v Speaker 1>by taking other people fishing. So today we're talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy Urick, one of my absolute favorite people to fish with,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I've only got to do it on on

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<v Speaker 1>the ice and not in open water, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>know where you really do most of your guiding. Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>how long have you been guiding? I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>how long you got it? About fifteen years plus right on,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I done it a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>just a few times. And I'm sure you've seen some

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous ship happen on the water in fifteen years a guiding.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't have said it much better. But so all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have a story liab set up for

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<v Speaker 1>us today. What do you got? Give us your smooth move? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I do a lot of guests guiding, like volunteer trips

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<v Speaker 1>that will donate for nonprofits, um, you know, or celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just lead into that. So we're we won't name names,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're all fishing, and we're on a bigger body

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<v Speaker 1>of water and the bite is really good, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>this clients like I have to use the restroom and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, all right. I was like, we can

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<v Speaker 1>pack up and and I can run you back to

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<v Speaker 1>the landing. That snow problem. Oh no, no, no, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. So alright, like not a problem, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the front deck, got my back turned or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of turn the music up on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a deal. And so we're fine, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yells at me like, hey, we're good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, all right. So you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>go back to fishing or whatever. And it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes later and we're walleye fishing and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I set the hook and it's a good one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't keep fishing myself personally, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, do you want do you want this

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<v Speaker 1>one too? And he's like, yeah, I have no problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So I unhook the fish and I turned around to

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<v Speaker 1>go throw it in the life. Well, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>make this up, the dude ship in my life. Well

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<v Speaker 1>and we fish and live. Well, he just that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. You already had absolutely destroyed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well with these fish in it, no idea what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like having this meltdown, and I literally just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the fish back over the side of the boat, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be cool about it, right, like not to embarrass him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, what are you thinking, man, Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>got fish in the life. Well the worst part is

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<v Speaker 1>so like we were close to like filling out our

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<v Speaker 1>limit right being done for the day, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the day. I'm like, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, this one's not big enough to keep

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<v Speaker 1>kept throwing fish back. Good for you for playing that game,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have been like, dude, like they're all

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<v Speaker 1>the walleyes or now I'm who's eating it. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have played that up, and I oh, man, good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I would respond to that other

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<v Speaker 1>than to hand him like a net and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to clean that out right now. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>anything you can scoop but no, okay yea, So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't solid. It means he was getting right into the meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Fish were brooding. I was going running through their circulatory system,

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<v Speaker 1>just mainlining poop. Basically what those fish were doing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like right there, we get to the we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the here it gets better, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>to the landing and we have a these in basive

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<v Speaker 1>species people that you know, check your boats or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta pull the drain plug and you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>pull the the live bul plug right let the water

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<v Speaker 1>run out gagging. I don't have a glove or anything

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I pulled a they have to pull the

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<v Speaker 1>plug in the live bulb. The species like monitor that

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<v Speaker 1>monitors the access is standing behind my boat, waters like

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<v Speaker 1>running on his feet and I'm like, dude, back up,

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh, I didn't have the heart to tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>so what do you do with the water? Normally I do, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I clean the fish for my package him up.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends how long they're gonna be in town. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they'll you know freezing freezeme form or whatever. So like

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<v Speaker 1>we get done with the inspection that like, I like

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the truck and I have to like go

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<v Speaker 1>drop him back off at his resort. And I was like, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do with these fish? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to clean him or do you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up? And he's like, well, he's like could

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<v Speaker 1>you just clean him right out the cabin? He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do a big fish fry. Tonight, So

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<v Speaker 1>I did clean these. You're a much nicer person. You

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<v Speaker 1>put your fish in a garbage bag, take them if

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<v Speaker 1>you want, go you you deal with your own poop fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. The worst part is so they had like

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<v Speaker 1>this big dinner and they asked me to stay, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, they started eating the fish and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I gotta go, guys, I gottading tomorrow. So

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<v Speaker 1>they ate they he didn't. He didn't tell them shooting

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<v Speaker 1>and Alive Will. I think the standout and all that

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<v Speaker 1>was not what happened, not the taking the dump into

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<v Speaker 1>Live Will, but then the fact that the man invited

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<v Speaker 1>her to clean the fish and then join him and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever he was going to feed him to for dinner

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<v Speaker 1>that night. I think that was the That was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really said it over the top. But fish fill,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely not. I just I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I loved Smooth Moves, and my favorite stories were all

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones of the people who were just completely oblivious.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a part of that is because I

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<v Speaker 1>empathized with it. So I was like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have I have a little bit more street smarts

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<v Speaker 1>and common sense to to do something like the shifting

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<v Speaker 1>in the Live Well, I wouldn't be so presumptuous, But

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<v Speaker 1>there were some other stories where I'm like, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>I might do that, and I would be on this

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn podcast like I'm not going to It's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>deterred me from ever going on joining a god Oh no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know. But there's one quote from that

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<v Speaker 1>that people have kicked up on on social over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, which was there was nothing left to scoop

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<v Speaker 1>bud like people had, Like people have said that so

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<v Speaker 1>many times. And then when we did the giveaway of

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Letters Magnum dubbing the Custom Benz, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>colors was Mandy's Live Well for that reason, so that

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<v Speaker 1>one that one, and then anybody who had a ship

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<v Speaker 1>or piss story after that, it's kind of like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>your ship story is nothing compared to this, So that

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<v Speaker 1>we had to turn down a few, uh fecal matter stories.

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<v Speaker 1>What Mike COmON had that one with with the dude

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<v Speaker 1>wipe in his butt with one of his gloves, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which was good, but I'm the guy didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>make him eat the glove afterwards, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that guy was most danger of having Michael trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make him eat the glove man. Yeah. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>smooth move is always always a favorite. And I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>everybody across the industry who came on and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bared their souls and we're willing to talk openly about

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<v Speaker 1>that now. Something that we started ben out with, um

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of faded away a little for various reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>was we had this idea the beginning to have a

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<v Speaker 1>regional fishing report every single episode of the show, and UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like you can weigh in

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<v Speaker 1>on this because you're a man who loves satire. They

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<v Speaker 1>were pure satire. They were always completely fake and some

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<v Speaker 1>work and some didn't. That like that wasn't one of

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<v Speaker 1>our greatest hits, although they were some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>fun things to write. Yeah, I would say the people

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<v Speaker 1>you got on to do those segments, I'd say seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of them were definitely like in on the

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<v Speaker 1>bit had had some sort of acting I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say acting experience. It sounds like they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>like Sondheim. They could they could be, they could play

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<v Speaker 1>a character. And then with all due respect, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some people that were just so and clearly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it was like is this a joke? I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the problem somewhere so good that

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't understand if it was fake or not. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know it's fake, then it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>this just isn't very good, Like this guy's an asshole,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to go fishing with him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I will say, like the sleeper the one

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play. And we did a ton of them, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was one this is my personal favorite, and

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<v Speaker 1>this one flew under the radar a little bit. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it was the most popular or well received

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<v Speaker 1>UM fishing report that we ever did, but you gotta remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the challenges, if you can call it that,

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<v Speaker 1>that we had with Bent was we launched this some

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<v Speaker 1>bitch like smack dab in the worst part of the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID pandemic. So like yeah, for better or worse, COVID

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<v Speaker 1>has been this like slightly woven theme throughout Bent, because

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<v Speaker 1>we we couldn't have waited, so at the time we

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<v Speaker 1>had this idea because all that you know, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>cross the border into Canada, so all the poor Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>outfitters and lodge owners. We're we're starving for money because

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody could come up and fish. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>this idea um for lardge owner Mitch McFly to to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on that, and this was always one of

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<v Speaker 1>my all time favorites either folks, Mitch McFly here with

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<v Speaker 1>your weekly fishing report from Pickerel Point Lodge on Alberta's

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<v Speaker 1>Pristine Spooner's Lake. Before I get into the fishing though,

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<v Speaker 1>we sure to hope you and your family are staying

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and happy in these hectic times. Particularly our valued

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>guests from the States. We've missed your friendly faces this season.

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<v Speaker 1>It just hasn't been the same around here without seeing

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen dirty and mostly broken down cooler stacked outside the

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<v Speaker 1>doors of our quaint cottages, or getting those morning calls

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<v Speaker 1>in the office asking for someone to please bring over

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<v Speaker 1>a plunger. Anyways, quick bit of is keeping. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>our repeat guests may remember Old Gusts are a long

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<v Speaker 1>time boat mechanic. We've unfortunately had to lay Old Gusts

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<v Speaker 1>off for the season because, wouldn't you know it, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a single large boat lower right past the

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<v Speaker 1>shallow water marker boys and run up on the rocks

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<v Speaker 1>at Thompson's Cove. Without the constant inflow of props to

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<v Speaker 1>refurbish and lower units to restore, we just couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>us busy, so we sent him home. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>good sport about it, though, and happy to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more time on his true passion carving small

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<v Speaker 1>wooden bears and moose. Hope to have a pyleum for

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<v Speaker 1>sale in the gift shop next season. Okay, then, I

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<v Speaker 1>am happy to announce that the Walleye byte has been

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<v Speaker 1>better than I have seen it in probably twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Some folks around here say it's due to the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of fishing pressure, but I think it's because the local

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<v Speaker 1>anglers go a little slower. We tend to favor a

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<v Speaker 1>more methodical approach instead of that fast, erratic, circular trolling pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>I know most of you boys from the States rely on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I always tell you, fellows, the hours of

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<v Speaker 1>a eleven AM to four thirty PM are not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what i'd call prime time, but you can still find

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<v Speaker 1>at least a few polite fish to bite in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the day. You know they are a Canadian a. Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've caught quite a few fort pike right off the

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<v Speaker 1>docks this year. I've had a little more time to

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<v Speaker 1>do some fishing in the evenings because there aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to forty crushed bud light can strun about the

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<v Speaker 1>property that need rounding up for proper disposal in one

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<v Speaker 1>of them many many conveniently placed recycling bins we have

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<v Speaker 1>on site. A five A diamond spoon has been producing

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<v Speaker 1>really well for me, and I found it quite relaxing

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<v Speaker 1>and therapeutic to just cast in reel while I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the call of the loons, which aren't completely drowned

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<v Speaker 1>out by kid rocking that chicken fried song blasting from

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<v Speaker 1>the picnic tables over at the boat house. I'd also

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<v Speaker 1>like to mention that, on the bright side, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to spend time improving our operation and beautiful facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on your feedback, we've loaded up on Mrs butter

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<v Speaker 1>Worse and will only serve what you folks refer to

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<v Speaker 1>as that maple sap ship upon request. All of our

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<v Speaker 1>bag lunches will now include three packets of mayonnaise instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the usual one, and most importantly, we've upgraded our WiFi,

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<v Speaker 1>so you will now be able to stream those UFC fights,

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<v Speaker 1>reruns of Dog the Bounty Hunter, and porn Hub from

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere on the property. Anything we can do to make

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<v Speaker 1>your stay here more comfortable, We just uh can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to have you folks back. We pray that you can

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<v Speaker 1>return to the serene beauty of Alberta by m three

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<v Speaker 1>or at the very latest. Thanks and God bless So

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was read by my buddy Brad Fencon,

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<v Speaker 1>who's from Alberta and he is one of the nicest, kindest,

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<v Speaker 1>gentlest men you will ever meet. And I remember we

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<v Speaker 1>got feedback on that and they were like, did you

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<v Speaker 1>get Brad Fencon to say shit and porn Hub on

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts? And I was like, that is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of power that that bet has. We can make we

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<v Speaker 1>can we can make Brad fence and sell his soul

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<v Speaker 1>Clay Knecom to say shit. I'll be real impressed because

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<v Speaker 1>you won't have the opportunity going for you to work on. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, you know again, they used to be so

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<v Speaker 1>fun to write. We also, um, you know, Phil will

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<v Speaker 1>remember we also stuck in a few celebrity reports. We

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<v Speaker 1>had poetry by Brad Pitt. We had Matthew McConaughey. Matthew mcconaugheyes,

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<v Speaker 1>was my favorite. By the way. Matthew McConaughey was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not playing Matthew McConaughey, but that was good,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the end where he's like, that's the sound

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<v Speaker 1>between my ears. That's also sounded Tahiti. I'm I sufficient

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<v Speaker 1>in Tahiti right now. But all those celebrity check ins

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>were played by a guy named Gary Denoia and he's

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<v Speaker 1>Paradinoia on on Instagram, and uh, he's from New York

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<v Speaker 1>but he has ties to Philly and he is hysterical

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<v Speaker 1>if you are if you are from the Philly area especially,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to follow him. And he has a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>called Listen Up and Fucking Listen, which is which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>But of all the ones he did, um, I just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come out and say I think his Rayliota was

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Like, he did a really great Rayliota and

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<v Speaker 1>he did a couple of reports. But what if the

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<v Speaker 1>Springsteen was was one of my favorites. That was like

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<v Speaker 1>the Spring the Springsteen that wasn't. Yeah, he did great,

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<v Speaker 1>he did great Springsteen Um the Brad Pitt poetry Miles

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that, and it was hysteric, but we did. We

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<v Speaker 1>did a Christmas special our first year in and we

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<v Speaker 1>had all these these characters that sort of pop up

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<v Speaker 1>on bent Uh jump in and and raise. Christmas greeting

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<v Speaker 1>from from episode twenty was always one of my favorite things. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? This is Ray at Rayliota's Bait and

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<v Speaker 1>Tackle and Pulaska, New York Wish and Use Merry Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>shops open today from ten to seven and today only

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<v Speaker 1>everything in stock is half price. We've also got free

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<v Speaker 1>canalis made by and a big pot of pasta le

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>jol made by my mother in law. So come on by.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just with you today. It's Christmas pretty stupid. That

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<v Speaker 1>does sort of lead into the like we've always been

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<v Speaker 1>about the holidays. I've always loved a good holiday theme, Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I love holiday themed podcast man, because you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>driving around and like, you know, maybe you're not feeling

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>particularly festive, man, but you get like a couple of

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 1>those and like like the recent Meat Eater Tiki Bar special, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like just just things like that they put you in

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas spirit. Man. They put in the holiday spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I'm embarrassed by how much I love

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>kitchy holiday ship and so there's nothing better than a

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<v Speaker 1>theme show. The only problem with Bent was we always

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<v Speaker 1>aired on the goddamn holiday. Was always like on Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, son of a bitch, my favorite holiday thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know that you like this ray leot

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<v Speaker 1>to one, but my favorite was and we're gonna bleep

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<v Speaker 1>that name out, uh, reading the bad Santa Claus and uh,

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>and then getting Joe's innocent kids right. He made my

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>kids say all kinds up ship, what do you say, daddy?

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>What's a hangover? Yeah, something like that. And I just

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>made him say all kinds of I made him lay

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<v Speaker 1>it down, all kinds of audio about fighting yous, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll fight you, Hayden. Yeah, will you just send those

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<v Speaker 1>to me personally? But yeah, like ruining the sanctity of

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<v Speaker 1>my child for a Christmas bid. I was all about it, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was totally on board. Christmas was always fun. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big Halloween fan, and I remember hated Halloween.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>He hated Halloween, which I could not. How do you

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.679
<v Speaker 1>hate Halloween? I feel like that tracks pretty well with

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>myles personality. I'm a guy who loves Miles. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Halloween is divisive because the decorations, like you know

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>who else who else hates certain aspects of Halloween are

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>pal Clay nucam Man he he he is very strong opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with I'd like to say I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with literally all of them. Um about about like violent

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Halloween decorations and and how it's like, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>formative experiences as a child is becomber night, Like my

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>neighborhood goes big, Like somebody's got like a red wagon

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>full of beers in a coolie just walk around, drink

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a beer the kids, Right, how do you hate hallew?

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>like if you wouldn't put it in like a movie preview,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think you ought to put it on

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>your front lawn. Man, it's not Halloween unless there's a

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>house that you're terrified to walk by. That's what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Phil. That's the fun when the kids like

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like there's like there's always the characters sitting on the

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>front board, and you like, is that stuffed with straw?

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Or is that a dude? And I'm like, they're like, no, daddy,

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you come n no, you go you want the candy?

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You go up there? Come on, man, that's that's that's

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>like that like to traumatize it. Child is going on here.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't like this thing, and you're like, well,

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>how couldn't you not like this completely different thing. Well,

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it's fun that you bring up that Clay doesn't like

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Halloween because one of one of my all time favorite

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>things we ever did on this show, truthfully, and it

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>was the last It was a last minute decision, right,

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but I forced Miles into a Halloween episode. This is

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>all the way back to episode twelve, and he's like, well,

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? That's so halloweeny? To tie

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it together, so I mashed up all these horror movie

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>clips with Bill Dance, which is similar similar to like

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>mashing up Clay Newcomb clips with with like these terrible

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>horror movies. And it was the dumbest thing, but it

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorites. So let's let's play a

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>few those. We'll start. Here's Bill Dance in The Exorcist

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<v Speaker 1>twitch Twitch Twitch, Twitch Twitch Poles, Twitch switch Twitch that

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>was kind of violent. That was like, that was like,

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that was the most guttural. One was The Exorcist. When

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go in order of what I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>the best. So then now here's Bill Dance, uh, confronting

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Jason in a face off in Friday thirteen. What you

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna do? What you're gonna do? Huh? Show off a

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>little and you can see it in your mind, like

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Bill with his with his tea hat on, looking not

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>looking at Jason vorhees, Yeah, just oh yeah, yeah. And

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a sharpener, that electric hook sharpener Bill Dance always plugged.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>But then and said, then we get into like like

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>these are my master work. Starting with Bill Dance in

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the Predator. There's something out there waiting for us and

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it ain't no man. He's big as a thorny wos,

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but he's good. He just looked big. Then that one

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>was was just perfect. And then the the cherry on

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the cake. I mean, this might be the best thing

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I've done in a seventeen year career. Is mash Bill

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Dance in the Poltergeist. How are you this boring? Okay?

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Where do you look around? More? Purple brown? Kind of

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a purple bad keep that baite in one spot. What

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>do you look for in a good baite cashing rod

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>when you're on a fixed income? I don't know, Like

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things, like, you know, creative people

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>like you guys get like you're making it and you're

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, yes, that just SYNCD up beautifully.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>So it was no segment, it was nothing. They were

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing but little bullshits we peppered in. But man like,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think they'll ever be repeated, but

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I think they also speak to like, come on, man.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Pop culture has played such a big part in this

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>show because I I love pop culture, Like that's what

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm about. Well, i'll tell you what. Man Like. One

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of like the most intimidating uh like things about Bent,

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like coming in as a as a co host. Wasn't

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that I would have to like like talk about fishing

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>in an intelligent way for like an hour every week?

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>It was I was, I was. I was worried about

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>my fishing knowledge. I was worried about my pop culture knowledge.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And another place that you see a lot of you know,

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>really just classic and good pop culture references actually like

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the interstitials man Like, I feel like the breadth of

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>effects in like transitions that Phil put together referencing pop culture.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, back, we had a whole episode called

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we had we themed a whole episode around Coral Weathers.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>It's called Caral Weathers Goes to Cabella. I mean, you

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>know that's what I'm talking about. But yes, you bring

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>up Phil. Like in the very early days, Phil, you

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>did not judge our news segments. You were not there

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to weigh in, and then we thought that's gonna be

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a really great idea. And of course you're sitting here

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>now because you added so much. You were an integral

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>part of this show. But there was one news story

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I did in particular um that I think Miles hated

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't newsy or informative enough. But it was

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just about duo lures coming out with Pokemon themed lures

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that were extremely hard to get. And it was your

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>way in on that news episode that I was like,

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Phil gets me, Phil gets us, Phil gets this, let's

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>play that way in Miles, thank you for sticking up

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, because Joe, I don't know what about me

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>would make you think that I'm the kind of person

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>who would know that a Pikachu is a species and

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>therefore can be male or female, or that Kyoga is

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a legendary water Pokemon first introduced in Gen three. In

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was the cover Pokemon for Pokemon Sapphire on the Game

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Boy Advance. But you know, much like those nerds who

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>play Pokemon, I'll do a little role playing here and

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>pretend to be someone who was interested in any of

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>that bull crap and say, oh, Joe, you're the winner.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for letting me know about all these really cool lures.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>The uh let's see still out of stock. Damn it.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>That was the moment when I was like, Phil is

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in on all of this. He's in on all the jokes.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But then, Phil, I mean, look, you always seem to

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>enjoy those way ins. You were always having fun. I

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>did well. I just going way way back. I think

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it was I I do you. I don't remember when

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you asked me to start weighing in on fish news,

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think it was relatively early. It was like

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a round episode ten, maybe maybe a little bit before. Yeah,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was I was baffled at that decision. I

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand it, but you know, I knew you were

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just kind of trying to put a little pin on

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the end of fish News. Ever every week, so I

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>played along and I just kind of every week I

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>would kind of just push it a little further and

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>see how unhinged and I was waiting for I was

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>waiting to get some notes at some point, and honestly,

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I never never out of all of the fish News

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>reactions I did. I think I only ever got one

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>note where you guys are like, maybe change that, and

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it was because it was kind of like an off

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>color joke and I totally totally understood, but you guys

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 1>let me do anything, which was honestly, I loved it.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun. I was gonna say, because,

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta understand, from a host perspective, we knew

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>everything in the show when we would hear that the

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>like the you know, we we always listened to these

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>shows before they go out. We knew everything we said,

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't know what you said. So it would

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>be like with bated breath, I'm like, oh my god,

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>here comes in the new is what it's still gonna say.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like the one element we had no idea

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>until we heard it. But like you said, they got

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<v Speaker 1>more and more elaborate. I don't have time to go

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>into the whole like multipart soap opera. You did where

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you do? My favorite? That was my moment and then

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.959
<v Speaker 1>come back to life. But I think you were testing

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the waters on the filled death with your way in

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<v Speaker 1>an episode fifty four, which was also always one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites. Phil, Honey, it's time to wake up? What

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta wake up? It's time to edit the podcast? Mom? Yes, okay,

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you ready? Yeah? Yeah, let's let's do the podcast. How

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>do I How do I do it? Okay? See that

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<v Speaker 1>button there, the blue one? Push that one? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good now edit edit and then what do I click? Now? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want you to export? Hit the export ble

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, okay X export to await MP three,

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<v Speaker 1>MP three Yes, all right, you got it. I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job and the winner for best Engineered podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>of all time goes to Phil for episode of ben

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone that you'd like to thank? WHOA? I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, uh the guy upstairs? J C, my boy,

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<v Speaker 1>how's the view? Uh? Tony at Arby's Joe, Sir Mellie

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<v Speaker 1>the winner of fish News this week. Oh my mom. Mom,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>thanks for waking me up. And I couldn't have done

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it without you. Phill, Honey, it's time to take out

0:34:55.120 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the track mob. Shut up, you're embarrassing me. God. That

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>was like just the creativity had been had been notched

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>up there, just like well, well sure, I just want

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to say really quick that one of the reasons listen.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's no secret that I I know

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>jack about fishing, but I I loved working on this

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>podcast because just of the layers of just pop culture,

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just bullshittery that went in a week. And I mean

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that in the most like loving way. I I it

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>was it was my dream to work on a show

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>like this. I never knew it would be a phishing podcast,

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>but like, but like every I was, I was always

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>intimidated doing the Fish News weigh In because I felt

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.959
<v Speaker 1>like I needed to kind of at least get kind

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of close to like you and Miles about with with

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>with the stuff you were referencing and the jokes you

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>were making, and so I I just I loved that

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys gave me like a super long leash to

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of get weird when honestly, to be honest, the

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>weeks where I got weird were the ones where I

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>honestly I couldn't think of anything funny. I couldn't think

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of just like a one line joke. So I was like,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna turn this into a bit that maybe

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they'll I'll turn it and Joe will Will say, no,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. Should compile them all in one

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>shot and and make that a whole separate podcast. One

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things, dude. I mean, like, why I

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>think about Phil Taylor fish news reads. I think tasteful

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and elaborate. Yeah, speaking of tasteful and elaborate, we can't

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>we can't end this show. We can't talk about what

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>bent was without bringing up Lance V. What what are

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>your two thoughts on on old Lance? He hasn't been

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>around and Lance V okay, there's one Phil. He just

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he was just misunderstood. Yeah, that's how I think. And

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>did you you you want to talk about a a

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>love hate segment Throughout this there was no middle ground

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for Lance V. But despite all the fun that we've had, right,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>all the pop culture and all the jokes, like, we

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>did try to be educational and I will stand by that. Um,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>he was brought in purely for educational purposes. Is one

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>living awarding. No, because everybody wants to be an Instagram

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and YouTube star these days. We're just trying to help

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you along with the best information we can give you.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Um So, you know, I struggled to come up with

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with what what Lance do we do? We rerun here,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>but I mean there's really only one. I think it

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>was the most educational and it is a piece of

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>knowledge all of you can carry with you till the

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>end of time, or at least until Instagram goes away,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>which will happen eventually. The land, to the boats, to

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<v Speaker 1>the like, to the sea, getting up the n on net.

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<v Speaker 1>But your boy lags. What's happening? Qualified captains, It's your

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>favorite Internet fishing guru, Lance Fee, here to aid you

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in continuing education about killing it as an online angler.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>This week we have a deep question from Josh hy

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>who writes guys, come on this Lance v guy is

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a freaking chuckle head. But if you had to pick

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>just one Instagram filter, what would it be? I have

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Josh, I didn't want to answer this question.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, this information is so powerful that it

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>could shave years off your pursuit of Internet greatness and

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>rocking to the top two quickly can be dangerous, just

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>as the Greek dude with the wax wings, or the

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>kids and Criss Cross who spent decades in therapy to

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>overcome their desire to wear their pants backwards hashtag Daddy Mac.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>But I decided to go for it, so brace yourselves.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>The answer is half a Listen. I know that was

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot to take in. Many of you are probably

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>in shock right now. Don't torch yourself for all the

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>mediocre fish photos you posted using Ludwig or Perpetua. Those

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>wasted opportunities to grow your social media presence. You didn't know.

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 1>You were so sure using Nashville on that tight shot

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of a bass broke brand crank bait would take your

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.959
<v Speaker 1>posts from worthless to art that your ten followers would say,

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>my god, it's breathtaking. You were absolutely positive the slightly

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>washed out look of Lark was perfect for another sun

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>rise over the pay leg photo. And you were so wrong.

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm here to tell you it's okay. We all

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>make mistakes. Hashtag here with me. Hef A is the answer.

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It's always been the answer, and you need not understand

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>why the details come with similar consequences to figuring out

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 1>who killed JFK or Weather Vanilla Ice knowingly sampled that

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Queen song in Ice Ice Baby, listen, I've already told

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you too much, and I feared divulging for the information

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>about the powers of HAFE could lead to issues regarding

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>my personal safety or worse, a loss of sponsorship opportunities

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with hashtag Nights of Columbus. Josh, You're welcome, but I

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>want to make it clear I take no responsibility for

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 1>how you or anyone else uses this information hashtag risk

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>fact there side note on that hef A was also

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the colors of the special Bent Magnum dubbing

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>we gave away the the hef A future, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you using the heif A filter, Hayden, Oh yeah,

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and everything I do. Hayden. Actually, he sent me a

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>picture asking for medical advice of you know, some of

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>his his nether regions, and it had the hef A

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>filter over it. He's like, do I like to keep

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it consistent? Now? Why I don't forget that? Why I

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>don't slip up? Yeah? You send that and be like Jesus,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Hayden he's this large. That's why it took me so

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>long to figure out the mobile deposit feature on my

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>banking app. I kept using the hef A filter on

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the check. Yeah, that's not gonna work. The algorithm doesn't

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>pick up on that. You know. I just want to say,

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>really quick, it's you. You revealed earlier that you had

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>your friend doing all of those celebrity impressions. I think

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>we should reveal here and today that lance V is

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a real person. Yes, yeah, yes, despite anything we might

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>have said in a drunken stupor, I I walk it

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>all back. A lot of things are getting walked back

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 1>these days, so let's walk this one back. Um. Lance

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>V is absolutely real. He is absolutely real. And that

0:40:56.719 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>was I have no regrets about lance V and act

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was one of my favorites. Hayden, who

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>was one of your favorite characters on this show? Tell us, well,

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gonna be Bob the garbage man man. Yeah,

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and Bob did not dip on us like lance Vae.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Bob stuck around, Um, mostly because we we pay him

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't. He doesn't have a lot of income.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, man, You know, my one

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>regret is that is that we didn't get to hear

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>from Bob the garbage Man just one more time. Yeah,

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>well we're we're going to We're gonna hear it. We're

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna play some Bob. We have to. And I'll tell

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you why. Bob was the first voice other than Miles

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and I anybody ever heard on this show. The very

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>first thing you heard that was not us was a

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>fishing report, a regional report by Bob the garbage Man.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>And uh, a year later, when we got two, episode

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty two in celebration, we said, well, we've got to

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>bring Bob back for the for the year anniversary. Um.

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And we did that with covering Water, which I know Phil.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Covering Water was a favorite segment years. That's our rapid

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>fire Q and a segment Oh yeah no, that's that

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorite segments. Uh, mostly because it

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>was always pretty standard. You know, you would ask you

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>phishing questions, favorite this, least favorite that, and then you

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>would throw in a curveball, change it, and they didn't

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>know how to react. It was sort of like what

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>movie bla la lah, and they're like ship and then

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.399
<v Speaker 1>they just like spit out the first thing they thought

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of and uh. And my favorite moments are always the

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>ones that got a huge reaction from you, Joe, because

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>they would say something just preposterous or something you weren't

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>expecting and you just say like, oh, we're gonna have

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to revisit that one second. Yeah, it always came a

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>minute to follow up and like, you have to talk

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>about this one I'm choosing for you. That was my

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing is how that specific part was framed in

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the intro was always like, yeah, we're gonna rapid fire you.

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>However many questions and you will have a minute to

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>elaborate on one of your choosing and Joe always chose

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:02.959
<v Speaker 1>the decision. Listen, we appreciate Bob's many useful contributions to Bent.

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'm gonna still have to deal with him

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>after Bent, but let's throw it back. This is a

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a covering water full of nothing but curveballs. Uh.

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>The one and only time Miles and I sat down

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>with him, at least digitally together, I'm going in. I

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>can hold it. No, I'm all so joining us today

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for covering water. We've got none other than our own

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>resident Stripers surf chunky expert Bob the garbage Man Britana

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>on a new ski and we haven't heard from you

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in a while, Bob, and I must say, I'm shocked

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>that you actually harnessed the technology necessary to join us

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. Can you can you hear me and

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>ship or we recording yet or whatever? Yeah, we are great.

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually at the Atlantic City Public Library at the moment,

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the miserable lady that works here setting us whole day

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>up in the computer laboratory or whatever it is. I

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know they had computers in here, Budd. In fairness,

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the only time I have come in here is what

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm fishing off Tennessee Avenue. Would have to take a ship,

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>so you know, way to utilize public resources, Bob, where

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 1>to go? Who's talking now? Niles? Miles, it's Miles. You

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know my name? Yeah, yeah, right. I know you

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like poetry, books and ship, but you hate this library. Niles.

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>All you got is five copies of MERV. Griffin's autobiography

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and ten books from the eighties about playing Keino. But

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>they keep the soap and toilet paper full. So your

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 1>tax dollars are hard at work on my asshole. It's money. Well,

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>spend money, well spend so listen. Uh. Part of the

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>reason we were eager to have you on is because

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of been dying to ask, man, why the

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>leap to social media? You've been so vocal over the

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>years about hating on the internet. Yet you you've you've

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>already wrecked up nearly three thousand followers on Instagram. Yeah. Well,

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>well the short answer for you there Joey's money. Yeah,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody told me you make big money is on the internets.

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Of course I made a nickel yet, but I look

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>at it like playing the lottery. It's a small investment.

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>But maybe someday you hit you know. But tell you

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the truth, I don't even know one of them walkie

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>talking phones who's probably got glued to your faces. My

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>neighbor's kid got one from that cricket store, and he's

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>a little slow and useless anyway, So I basically worked

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at a deal where he follows me around and these types.

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the I say and puts it on insta book,

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. So, so what what's the kid getting in

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>exchange for for transcribing all your winsdom there tell us? Yeah,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he ain't the brightest Bolton Niles. I bought

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>him a pack of Big League two once a week,

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and I told him when I get to twenty fans

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>will buy him anything he wants on Phillips Head Andy's

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>table at the flea market. Sounds really, That sounds fair, Bob.

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know. Look, we didn't really bring

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you on to discuss your thoughts on ocean policies, you know,

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>but we I mean, we could make a whole whole

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 1>segment around that, we could. I I'm sure you have

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>some thoughts on ocean policies, um, but we we brought

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you on to learn more about who you really are. Okay,

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and we already know you're one of the most revered

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>surfcasters ever to grace the striper scene. Correct. We already

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>know you've caught more big stripers exclusively chunkin bunker than

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty much anyone else on the planet. Also, correct, But

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>but our covering water segment is designed more to find

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>out who the man behind the skills really is. As

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>long as I'm making enough for beef eaters or whatever

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to cover the cost of the Moon's over Mihammy at Denny's,

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll cover whatever you want. Yeah, But we'll talk to

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>payroll see if we can get some moons over. Mihammy.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You should be all set do that. I will, I will,

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But in case, I'm pretty sure you haven't listened to

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the show, Bob, so I'm tell you how this goes. Yeah,

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>So what we do on covering water is we put

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>two minutes on the clock, all right, and we rapid

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>fire questions at you. And the whole idea is you

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>can't think too hard about your answers. You just you

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>just have to react. Jesus Christ, that's easy. I do

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this once a week at the Social Security office of

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the COVID Clinic, but they give you even less time

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to answer, so, you know, a piece of cake. Great.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Then after that, what we do with the end is

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 1>we give you one full minute to expand on anyr answers.

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, sound good? Yeah, whatever sounds great, Niles, Let's

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just harry this the because I think I left the

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pot of lead melting on the electric cop flight in

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>my bathtub. All right, we'll move it along. Then we'll

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 1>move it along. Okay, here we go. What's the best

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>vehicle you ever owned? That's easy. My old Ford Pinto

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and my Pontiac Aztec that got jeted. That's too but

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll go with it, all right, Graphite or fiberglass only

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>torps like Niles use graphite. If you weren't so devoted

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to stripe bass, what do you think you'd fish for

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>stripe us? What's the best concert you've ever been to?

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Ship C c U and I traded my Ford Pinto

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>for them tickets? If you could fish with any celebrity,

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>living or dead, who would it be? Oh? That's easy,

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Tim to toolbag Taylor, but he can't bring that move

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>with the flannel with him. Your your favorite summer cocktail

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 1>is hot sambuca? All right? If you were forced at

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>gunpoint to tie on a lure for stripers instead of

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>using a chunk, which lure would it be? I'm taking

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the bullet, Joey? Okay, all right? What's the worst job

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you ever had? Doing this? Right now? All right? If

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you had to guess how big was the biggest striper

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you ever caught? I don't know, between eighties seven and

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in there, I guess I don't know. Mm hmmm

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>are you bald under that wool hat you always wear?

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Ask your mother? Niles? Oh, all right, how about this

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite vacation destination. I'd like to soak a

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>chunk in Thailand one day. If you know what I'm saying.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't, of course you don't. Your your favorite movie

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>is uh I don't tell mom the babysitter is dead. Probably. Wow,

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that's time. Okay, I didn't see that one coming. Really

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that's the movie, okay, I question whether al Right, Well, anyway,

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that's time so perfect. Okay, let's wrap this up. I

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta run. Whoa, whoa, whoa? You still got you still

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>got a minute to expand on anyone your answers to

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>explain yourself, I said, Jesus Christ. I'm sure I accidentally

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 1>left that burner on. And the last time that happened,

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.479
<v Speaker 1>the old lady next door called the dipshit super, which

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>resulted in him discovering that I ran an extension court

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>upper fire escaped steel her electricity. So unless you just

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.439
<v Speaker 1>want to up the price to cover my electric bill

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>or the price to two pounds of custom twenty, let's

0:49:55.600 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 1>say hurry the fuck. Alright, alright, alright, well, which what

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna answer? Which one you gonna expand on? Pass?

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I pass? No? No? Not? Have you tell us

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got like a ninety pound striper. You gotta you

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to tell us more about that. For Christ's sake,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that had to be in seventy nine or eighty. That's

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>how much I figure it. Way before I gave it

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to Kenny. To Benny, he dropped another four to five

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 1>pounds lead down and throw it before he took it

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>to the Chinese place next to the other Chinese place

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>on Bultic Avenue. But you're looking for some epic story,

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and there eight one eight a bunket chunk. I really

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>in Stevie the cop clubbed it with a piece of reball,

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and I gave it to Kenny for a pack of smokes,

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>half a school of sixty pound pink Andy monta film,

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and had a pair of clean socks. Anyway, I know

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.879
<v Speaker 1>how much you appreciate me being here and how much

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate my time. So good bye, shit. I think

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>he gone, he gone, yep, I think I think that

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>was all we're gonna hear from Bob. I still, I

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>still am shocked that that Bob's favorite movie per that

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we learned is don't tell Mom the Babysitters Dead. You

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>know that one Hayden. You've seen that one? Phil? Seen

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that one? Phil? Phil? Can you throw a quote from

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that movie? Just one? Uh? Joe, I have not seen

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that movie. Oh god, the dishes are done. Man, No, nobody,

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>don't Christina Applegate. No anyway. See, that's what I always

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>brought to the show, was like the dumb movie facts, like, yeah,

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, Joe, I mean, it's it's this was

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 1>what was intimidating is because you're just only if you're

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>a few years older than me, and you brought those

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>eighties movies references like it was just before my my

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>time of watching like Angels in the Outfield and all

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the shitty nineties stuff that I love, Rookie of the

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Mannequin two on the Run. I got a lot of

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>ship either from Joe or like Guess or just you know,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>listeners who felt the need to hit me up on

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Instagram or the inbox about stuff that I hadn't seen.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>What was that one in particular that I got like

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>a raft of ship for not having seen. Oh, for

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Christ's sakes, dude, it was Chris. It was it was

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Vacation. You said on this show that you've never

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>seen National lampoons Christmas. That's un American, that's like phil Like,

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.399
<v Speaker 1>is that not impossible even if you don't go out

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of your way to watch it, like it ends up

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 1>on in the airport or your aunt's house or something

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, like playing on

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>on TBS just in the background. Yeah right, definitely. You

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen that. No, that's fine, I'm gonna let it slide.

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I brought was was dumb movie references.

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Miles worked very hard to bring literacy to this show,

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and I actually appreciated that. Um and people gave us

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>such a hard time for freaking yeah, yeah exactly, and

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and we got such a hard talking about that, and

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and we've we've said it's not that I didn't love

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>freaking Philistines, just Miles like read books like a machine,

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and I admired that, but I I could not read

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>enough books. I couldn't read enough fast enough, and I

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>could you Hayden to like really keep that going. But

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>we also had a segment that he came up with

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>called Weekly Word, and then that kind of fell by

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the wayside because you were like, I don't have any words,

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, man, I just like, I don't know

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>any words. I'll tell you why. Man. If there's one

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>thing I've been accused of as being verbose, how's that

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 1>for a word? Um, well, that's yeah. I don't know, man.

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like some of those were dogs back in the day,

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>but some of them were a lot of fun. And um,

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Hayden and I we're gonna have a debate after we

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:40.720
<v Speaker 1>play what was my my all time favorite? I wrote

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to you about this. You wrote to me about this

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>before you were even involved with this show. But there's

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>one weekly word going way back, all the way to

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>episode twenty eight that stands out to me, and um,

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna stand out to you too. If you're one

0:53:55.600 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>of my my Phillippeople Webster's dictionary define fish as this

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>week's word is John. That's j A w N. And

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a word that really has nothing to do with fishing,

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time could technically have everything to

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>do with fishing. And the only reason I'm even doing

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this John is because I said the word John in

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>another episode and Miles, being the words smith that he is,

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was so intrigued by my John he had to know

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 1>more about the John. John is a slang term that

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>originated in Philadelphia at least mostly and we'll get to that,

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and is used so much even in Philly's surrounding pa

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey suburbs, that it often appears in advertising.

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's even got down on that John, with billboards featuring

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 1>nothing but a sausage McMuffin in the words that's my John.

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Visit Philly dot COM's billboards read there's no John like

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Home and vitamin water plaster the area with billboards that

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>said vitamins electrolytes, get that John. So what is this John? Well,

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:58.320
<v Speaker 1>according to that Oxford Dictionary, john john refers to a thing, place, person,

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>or event that one need not or cannot give a

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>specific name to. So basically, John can be used to

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:08.760
<v Speaker 1>replace absolutely any now anyone at all in its singular

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 1>or plural form. As an example, I might say, what

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>was that top order John? Mikey was thrown over at

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>FDR Park for them largemouth John? Or upon seeing a

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>giant flathead catfish swimming along the bank of the School River,

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I might say, Yo, that's the biggest John I ever

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.919
<v Speaker 1>seen in here, followed by yo, I'm retiring my John

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>with fifty pound because that thirty pound John ain't gonna

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>be strong enough of a hook that John. Interestingly, John

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>can be pluralized with or without an S. Saying let

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>me get one of them John's when asking a buddy

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for a fresh mintow out of the bucket is acceptable,

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 1>but more commonly, John is used to refer to multiple

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 1>things minus the S. As an example, when asking a

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 1>friend where he acquired multiple new striper plugs, you'd say,

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>where'd you get them? John? You might also say I

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 1>want to get into fly fishing, but there's so much

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 1>John to buy. Theories abound about John and where it

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.760
<v Speaker 1>came from. In fact, John is such an intriguing word,

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>be as it can be used in so many ways

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that linguists have spent years studying this John and tracing

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 1>its origins. All signs point to John being a derivative

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of joint. Joint as a slang term rosen popularity in

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the American South around the time of emancipation, bars and

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>clubs that served as safe havens for black Americans were

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>called juke joints. This eventually expanded into the labeling of

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhat sketchy places as joints, which, even further down the

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.279
<v Speaker 1>line translated to any place you considered kind of underground,

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>such as that little pizza joint or burger joint you

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>think only you and your boys know about. Even though

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that John is all over yelp, but some smart John believed.

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>John was born in Philly in n one. Specifically, that year,

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>hip hop group Funky four plus one had a popular

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>song called That's the Joint, and it was one of

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the earliest recorded hip hop tracks where the word joint

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 1>was used as a positive term to refer to something

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>good or something that you like. Linguists say because the

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.720
<v Speaker 1>singers slightly drew out the vows in the word joint

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and didn't accentuate the tea, Philadelphians either heard it as

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:09.280
<v Speaker 1>John or sang it as John, ultimately solidifying the future

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of that John. Take a listen what we just care

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>miss just can't miss West like this joint? Did you

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>hear it? Let's listen one more time. Whether you heard

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>joint or John, the mere mention of this song being

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the origin of John infuriates many Philadelphians. Why because Funky

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>four plus one was from the Bronx, and even though

0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>most linguists agreed John technically came from Joint, which got

0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>popularized as a catch all in New York hip hop culture.

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Philly people just don't want to hear that John. That

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>John means too much to them. Now, if you're one

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of them John that gets all mad about John coming

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 1>from them York John, here's what I suggest. Head out

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to the garage and grab your John and head down

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to that John where you called all them John last season,

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 1>cast out alive John under a bobber. Maybe throw one

0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of them Panther and Martin John's and just relax. You

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>got other John to worry about. No matter where that

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>John came from, it's a Philly John now. So right

0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 1>after that episode dropped right, And I always love that

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that John Weekly word too because it had such a

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>great musical tie. And we've always been about like incorporating

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.439
<v Speaker 1>music where possible. But you hit me up. You hadn't

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 1>even been working here that long and you texted me

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and what did you say? Did you find the text? Yeah? Okay,

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so it was in reference to the promo that you used, uh,

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And it was it was an Instagram post where it

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>read why have I never heard of this John? Bent

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Listener Ensley nine one alerted me to this John after

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>taking this picture in his local fly shop John. Are

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:54.919
<v Speaker 1>these John's no good? Have these John's not caught on?

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't tie many hollow John's, So maybe that's why

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I missed this John. But Box endorsed this John and

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>he is the man for them strikeing and talking about

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Okay, you're talking about an Instagram post. Yeah,

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:11.439
<v Speaker 1>well that this is This is where I got hung

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>up with because I said, okay, I we had had

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a prior conversation, but via this text thread, all I

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>can find is that I have issue with your use

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of like double nouning. And here's the example of what

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I recall is you said that John cannot be pluralized

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>like nobody says it can be. It can be pluralized

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 1>if you read a very good article on the internet

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that said otherwise. That's where I pulled that from it

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:45.920
<v Speaker 1>actual I've heard John can be broken up by region

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of Philly like people in South. But my problems, my

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>problem was, my problem was as illustrated in this post.

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 1>You said fly shop John's, and what I said is

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that's like the equivalent of saying fly shops up shop shop. Yeah,

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be like you know if if you were

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 1>if you were asking me, um, where to go, uh

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like use tackle shops? Right, if you were asking me, like, hey,

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 1>where do I go buy plugs? Oh, just go to

1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Tackle John. It's like down on like ninth, or like

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a Burger John. Yeah, or go to like yeah, go

1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Burger John. It's it's you know, like so

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it should have just been fly John's without shop right right,

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it should have been like, oh, yeah, go go, I

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:35.560
<v Speaker 1>will scroll back and I will I will, I will

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 1>correct the post anyway weekly where it was one of

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 1>those deals where they were they were tough to come

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 1>up with, like that was the ball was in our

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 1>court to figure out those words. But I mean, we

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:48.919
<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about how much we gleaned from listeners,

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Like so much of this show ran on listener contributions.

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And I always love that because I always looked at

1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it like if we have a little outlet here to

1:00:57.520 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>uh let the people speak, you know what I mean?

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, I mean, look that's my bar and awkward

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>photos were two of my favorite things. Ever. We're not

1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:10.000
<v Speaker 1>playing either of those, uh in the greatest hits, But um,

1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I always had so much fun doing those and people

1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>really love That's my Bar. I always had a dream

1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of compiling those and sending awards like you're a band,

1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 1>That's my Bar. That would have been good. The man,

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I loved that That's My Bars. And one thing that

1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I really admired about that was it put the onus

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>on the listener to like really know a place. And

1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in fact, actually in the first I think in the

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.520
<v Speaker 1>first episode that I hosted, I did it that It's

1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 1>my Bar. And I'll tell you what, It's not a

1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:43.040
<v Speaker 1>small task. You gotta know some history. You need to

1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 1>be familiar equating. It was similar writing you guys got

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<v Speaker 1>for those That's my Bar submissions were people it was publishable,

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<v Speaker 1>like if some of them were outstanding, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were making a degenerate Michelin guide for bars, that's

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<v Speaker 1>something to aspire to you later, I guess. But we

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<v Speaker 1>we've always appreciated the submissions for those, but more so man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll be honest, Like when we first pitched

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<v Speaker 1>sale Bin, it wasn't There were some people who thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was not gonna work out, but that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most responded to segments on this I will say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that is probably if we're like breaking down all

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<v Speaker 1>of the segments, um other than like makers or I

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<v Speaker 1>actually a really soft spot for night fishing, But either

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<v Speaker 1>of those two segments like that was my favorite for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was always funny, It was always in

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<v Speaker 1>good humor. You always led to like some good fishing conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always felt like I've learned something even though

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wasn't supposed to write. Well, there there's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a ringer there like that, just like Mandy York

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys know which one that is. But I'm curious, man, like,

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<v Speaker 1>any any standouts for you guys besides the one we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to hit here. Well, I mean the what was

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<v Speaker 1>the tuggy? Was that? And this was that? The Tuggy

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<v Speaker 1>made of you. I'm so glad you brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>Tuggy because now I can say, while I, while I

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<v Speaker 1>love and appreciate it all, just stop sending me Tuggies

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<v Speaker 1>like I like I if I printed all the texts

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<v Speaker 1>and messages with the motorized Tuggy, I could wallpaper my

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<v Speaker 1>entire house like We're We're good. I will always be

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuggy fan. I always love a Tuggy. But you

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<v Speaker 1>could stop sending me tuggies. Um, but the one we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play here is actually fairly recent and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>only time in sale bin history that an extra step

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<v Speaker 1>was taken to make the segment extra special, and it is,

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<v Speaker 1>without a doubt, the most responded to sale bin we

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<v Speaker 1>have ever done. Why did you put the hand to pay?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what I'm getting? Man, You didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be so hurtful with me so angry. Today we've

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<v Speaker 1>got what I've at least decided is the perfect Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>sale bin item because it's very trigger treat right. Could

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<v Speaker 1>be good, could be ship, don't know. But thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>several listeners that sent this one along. Um, there are

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<v Speaker 1>too many of you to name, but at least ten

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<v Speaker 1>of you fired this one off, and I thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but very quickly before I dive into this

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<v Speaker 1>particular item. Um, since this is Hayden's first sale bin,

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<v Speaker 1>I always like to know, like where where everyone stands

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<v Speaker 1>on the online buying of other people's wears? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>an online classified shopper? Do you look for things on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and Craigslist and such? Yeah, your boy's been known

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit thrifty, like that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you buy? What do you like? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you use it for? Dude? All sorts of gear? Man Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've bought a bunch of guitarists from a website called Reverb,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, I also buy a lot of my waterfowl

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<v Speaker 1>decoys from like piste Off X Wives and girl Runds.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, full body decoys are expensive, man, in the

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<v Speaker 1>best sale I've ever found is when you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got like a Spern lover swinging the auction gavel, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? I do know, dude, I do know,

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<v Speaker 1>And like those posts are so rare and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be quick on it. But you see hi every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while on Craig's List, it's like every

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<v Speaker 1>piece of fish tackle and fish poles and my condo

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be gone tomorrow, call Holly and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh man, I need to get there tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>before he gets back from work. You know, I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>that a way better day than this guy's about that

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. Oh man. So anyway, so here's what we have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, I'm glad you're an online classified person that

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<v Speaker 1>makes this more fun. So so here's what we have. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the title of this post, and now, mind you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>betting that even more people have seen this post than Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's out there in all kinds of different Facebook forums.

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<v Speaker 1>The title is secret jigs I use at Missouri trout Parks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the photo is just a shot of a railing

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding a low head dam and you see a lone

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<v Speaker 1>angler waiting just above the damn. And I'm just surmising here, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it was probably taking

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<v Speaker 1>at a Missouri trout park, would be my guess. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that's probably a fair assumption. Trout parks, I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>are a very interesting cultural phenomenon and totally and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that what's interesting about him is there are some

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are like very dedicated to visiting. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. And and honestly, like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it breeds a certain level of skill just because

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<v Speaker 1>like the ability to rapidly a b test a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different stuff over fish that you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing it, well, dude, And there's there's some truth

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<v Speaker 1>to that. It's like, on one hand, you step back

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, trout park, that's lame. I would never

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But if you're into that, these places tend

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<v Speaker 1>to have their ringers, Like, ah, that's old Bill over there.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets them every time, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's like it's like a jockeying for position at

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<v Speaker 1>some of these trout parks. I would I would bet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My my experience of trout parks overall is very limited.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will tell you a quick story about one.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is actually this is a story I told

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<v Speaker 1>him my grandfather's funeral. The U I'm coming in with

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<v Speaker 1>him today, man, I'm ready. Uh. So, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, uh, one of my first trout fishing excursions

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<v Speaker 1>was at one of these trout parks, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>in particular was like a kind of catch and keep

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<v Speaker 1>pay to play, right right right? Um, I'm about four

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<v Speaker 1>years old or something, and I managed to catch a fish,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my dad puts him in the ten

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<v Speaker 1>gallon bucket and kind of I am now no longer

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<v Speaker 1>interested in fishing. I'm interested in watching this one particular

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<v Speaker 1>fish kind of swim around. So a couple of hours

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<v Speaker 1>go by and we're leaving the trout park and we

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<v Speaker 1>passed the you know, the shed with a teenager and

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<v Speaker 1>the filat knife, and uh, the guy kind of looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me as I'm leaving, me goes, hey, uh, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want your fish cleaned? And me, being four, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I would like a shiny clean fish. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll poor little you into the bucket, slaps on the

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<v Speaker 1>cutting board and I'm thinking that's a weird way to

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<v Speaker 1>clean a fish. I feel like, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not sleuper good for it. And he just eviscerates

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<v Speaker 1>this fish in front of me. And I cried all

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<v Speaker 1>the way home. And you've never been back to a

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<v Speaker 1>trout park since. Oh man, that's sad, but's so funny. Uh. Anyway, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>story time over. So these secret jigs, right, these these

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<v Speaker 1>secret jigs, they'll cost you ten dollars and four ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars you get ten so a buck of jig, which

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<v Speaker 1>isn't terrible, right, that's a lot cheaper than dry flies,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot cheaper than dry flies. Three fifty most places.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for one blue wing olive cast you three fifty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not even tired? Good? Yeah exactly. But anyhow, man, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that these one dollar jigs are not

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<v Speaker 1>only a good price, but a steal for what they

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<v Speaker 1>are and what they are. Lightning in a bottle. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read the listeners the description of the

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<v Speaker 1>jigs in question. So ten for ten my secret jig

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<v Speaker 1>that I catch thirty to fifty trout a day, no

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<v Speaker 1>picture to keep it secret. I guarantee you will catch

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<v Speaker 1>your limit daily. I have used this jig for forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years. Will also throw in a detailed diagram of

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<v Speaker 1>how to use it, phone number hidden four forty eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of odd, why not just say fifty or

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<v Speaker 1>forty five? Like that's very specific? Hey, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know that he's an honest dude and these so he

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<v Speaker 1>can't be exaggerating, right, But so I got to say right.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way, it's kind of genius marketing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the grown up version of the surprise eggs. All the

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<v Speaker 1>little kids are are are into right, and much cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>I might add caause I know from experience. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you give me ten bucks and trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be good. Like you're gonna like like this.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of secret recipes that people go

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<v Speaker 1>to great lengths to keep that way, dude, A hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is like a wink and a nod you've

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<v Speaker 1>put out on the entire internet. I'm surprised he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the dark Web. So he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it secret, and then he assumes the buyer will

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<v Speaker 1>keep it secret. But you know, at some point some

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<v Speaker 1>asshole is going to spill the beans. And that asshole

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<v Speaker 1>is me, because I have purchased these Oh you didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I'm holding the package here and I have

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<v Speaker 1>not opened it, and it's been killing me for over

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<v Speaker 1>a week. I have been saving this for this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>On this sale beIN right here. It's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>first ever unboxing on this podcast. I gotta say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did this through Facebook, and not to be rude,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, you're not giving your credit card to like

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<v Speaker 1>a business. You're dealing with some rando dude. That fish

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<v Speaker 1>is Missouri trout Parks. So I'm still convinced somehow this

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<v Speaker 1>will result in like my bank account being drained or

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<v Speaker 1>my interview man, well, yeah I use PayPal, Okay, smart guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but still I'm like from Jersey and trust nobody. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? You do? Yeah, yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all worth it to amuse the ben audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this because I want you all to catch

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<v Speaker 1>more fish, God damn it. Like I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>have all the manages. On the other hand, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know if you're getting scammed. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth ten bucks of my heart earned money to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know this. I'm not even gonna expense this, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna make meat eatter pay for what

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<v Speaker 1>very well could be a mistake. This is This is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on you too, because this could

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<v Speaker 1>be a cloud of anthrax. Like you're watching me on

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<v Speaker 1>the computer right now, like that, I'm very happy I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 1>You're safe out there in Montana. It could be a

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<v Speaker 1>mail bomb, although it's very light. It would be the

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<v Speaker 1>most sophisticated mail bomb ever. But I'm actually listening. It's

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<v Speaker 1>by scissors. I have sat on this for a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is it. Phil. You need to put a

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<v Speaker 1>drum roll over this. I am cutting the envelope right

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<v Speaker 1>now and together we're gonna see about these secret jigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Look that they're all wrapped up in weird paper. These

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be good. Uh, oh my god. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a scam. Oh no, that's the diagram. Oh my god, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be kidding me. Hope, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be kidding me. I'm gonna see. I'm hold this so

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it. It is literally a tiny bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you even see that? Of like, it's it's perdagons

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<v Speaker 1>in all white. It is literally just a jig style

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<v Speaker 1>hook gold with an itty bitty head that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a nymph head painted white, and then he has just

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped white thread behind it and tapered it. That is it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is all that it is. I was expecting like

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<v Speaker 1>bucktail or just I was expecting it to be like

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<v Speaker 1>some forty eight years dude, this should have been some

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<v Speaker 1>precursor to the trout magnet or something. These All it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like is a euronymph with an upturned eye. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a white thread. What what. Let's let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>the details. Let's look at the detailed diagram. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you to tip it with something. And I

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<v Speaker 1>read the damn guy's advice for catching trout at Bennett

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<v Speaker 1>Springs State Park. If you fish Bennett Spring State Park,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your lucky day, um man. How to set

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<v Speaker 1>up fly rod or spinning rod for this jig Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>always use two pound test line or less. What's less

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<v Speaker 1>than two pound test line? UM eight x tipp it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I don't know. Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have some secret line that he also sells

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<v Speaker 1>with these secret jigs? No, man, Always try and fish

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<v Speaker 1>about six inches from bottom. Always make sure there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>any moss on the jig parentheses. Very important. Use an

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<v Speaker 1>adjustable cork when using a spinning rod. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>keep the line tight. Tie jig on leader between six

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<v Speaker 1>and eight inches above that and put number six split

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<v Speaker 1>shot adjust cork accordingly. Best place to fish, dude, Best

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<v Speaker 1>place to fish this jig at Bennett Spring number one

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<v Speaker 1>on the damn number two, all four corners of the

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<v Speaker 1>damn up lower. I'm seeing a damn theme here. Not

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<v Speaker 1>many people think to fish the damn Oh my god, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>This is number three, all the handicapped spots number like

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<v Speaker 1>jigsie selling away points. Number four feeder stream outlet, number

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<v Speaker 1>five feeder stream from hatchery outlet to stream. This is

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna look. I

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say I have no doubt these will catch fish,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these are like stock trout at a trout park.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? It just looks like a little white maggot

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<v Speaker 1>or something. This is well, I mean, yeah, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mean, like, you know, like it's like what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Waltz worm looks like nothing too. I think it's funny that,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so fish park, not fish parks in general,

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<v Speaker 1>but fish park singular specific. And I do like that

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<v Speaker 1>if you took anybody to survey this body of water

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like, where do you think you catch

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<v Speaker 1>some fish? They would point to all this dude's secret

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<v Speaker 1>spots immediately. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at dude. They're definitely heavier. I think these are lead,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these aren't like a tungsten head or traditional nimp.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think these are itty bitty lead jigheads. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so funny to me. I mean, there's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a piece of flash in him. Not it is

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<v Speaker 1>literally just white thread. That's always think, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the likelihood is that we have a listener that

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<v Speaker 1>is in like reasonable proximity of this fish park. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are hit me up, it also bothers me because

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<v Speaker 1>what I think about it. This man has my address,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could now send me an trax or a

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<v Speaker 1>letter bomb for divulging the greatest secret in all of

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<v Speaker 1>fishing on this podcast. I don't get the feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>this dude is super tech s happy. Man. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be all right anyway, there you go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you who who sent that I hinted, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look, I can't do this without knowing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't lay this on people without being able to say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what it is. So that is it. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the secret to stock trout everywhere. A tiny lead

1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:35.760
<v Speaker 1>jighead painted white with some white thread rap behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really fun. Man. That was like, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be my all time favorite sale bin right there. Naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna put the pictures of these things

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram so you can all see it on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and and and copy and tie these um if if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you want any more secrets revealed, you find

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<v Speaker 1>something on your favorite classified online forum, do please keep

1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:01.400
<v Speaker 1>sending those links to me at bent at the metator

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<v Speaker 1>dot com if you would, if you would love us

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<v Speaker 1>to trash the things you find here on the sale bin.

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<v Speaker 1>So to this day, people are still sending me pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of those similar jigs in fly shops and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket piece. They're like you got ripped off as hell, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was nothing secret about any of that. They're

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<v Speaker 1>in every fly shop down here in the Ozarks, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an idiot. Yeah, well, I mean you are an idiot.

1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:32.599
<v Speaker 1>But the man I've I went into that with like

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<v Speaker 1>number one, I genuinely had no idea, genuinely had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that that was what was about to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>I also, I was a little worried because I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if these are like a secret jig, this new is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be real upset. So once we got the emails

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<v Speaker 1>that alleviated that concern saying that, oh, these are everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt one, I felt a lot better about up

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<v Speaker 1>with two. Man. That was just funny. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was That was the most fun Saleman that we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done. And then funny side story, the pack of

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<v Speaker 1>jigs was so light and I had it in the envelope.

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<v Speaker 1>They came in here on my desk and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to mail something to my buddy Jim fee At on

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<v Speaker 1>the water and I grabbed the envelope and shook it

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, it's an empty envelope and stuck

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<v Speaker 1>the thing in there. And I I mailed all the

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<v Speaker 1>jigs to Jim. So when he sent me a text

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<v Speaker 1>confirming the thing that I sent him, he's like, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are gonna catch um the what are they called

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<v Speaker 1>golden shiners? He catches golden shiners to use for bass

1:19:33.720 --> 1:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>where he's at. He's like, oh, and thanks for these.

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<v Speaker 1>These are gonna crush golden shiners. I'm like, did you

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<v Speaker 1>get those? Wait? What? And I'm like, son of a bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent Jim all the secret jigs. But that's okay,

1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:46.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? Um? That was That was

1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a really fun way to cover a law. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've had the end of the line segment um

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<v Speaker 1>running the entire time here now for me, Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>one was a little trying because you talk about having

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<v Speaker 1>to do some research, like you're talking about how the

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<v Speaker 1>bar ours they it had to be right, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were always trying to balance like a personal connection to

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<v Speaker 1>a lore with some history. Um, dude, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I drove myself nuts with that Swiss swing one. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Yeah, dude, I so again, you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these end of the line, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did most of the research that is not true at all.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these like end of the line things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>are born of a personal connection. And you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain elements of there's certain lures that just

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of exist in your pantheon of what you

1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>created you as a fisherman, like you know, these like

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.439
<v Speaker 1>pillars that bought you up and got you into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the things that you use and the things

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<v Speaker 1>you relied on while you were figuring out fishing and

1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what fishing meant to you. And because of that, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times you'd overblow that personal connection in your

1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>own mind and be like, oh, this must be um,

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<v Speaker 1>this must be an experience had across the board. And

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<v Speaker 1>I fell into that with the Swiss swing. Turns out

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else uses that except for like five people in

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<v Speaker 1>like the right side of Pennsylvania, right. You know, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, man, of of of all the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the lines, I had a lot of fun doing,

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<v Speaker 1>though some of them were really good. But we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to close out today at the end of the line,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is traditionally what has ended the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna run one of yours, because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done as many, but the very first one you

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<v Speaker 1>did on trout beads, I swear more people wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>about that than any other end of the line we

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<v Speaker 1>had done. And and my my prediction, the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>think that happened was you took a very simple thing

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people know about and a lot

1:21:46.400 --> 1:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of people scoff at there, like, oh, trout beads, that's dirty.

1:21:49.600 --> 1:21:52.599
<v Speaker 1>And you did such a good job of explaining why

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<v Speaker 1>here's this thing that everybody looks at is like a cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>like a dirty cheat, and like this you know, fish

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<v Speaker 1>mauling lore, and explain why that's actually not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really think there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who saw this simple thing with with new eyes. After

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<v Speaker 1>this end of the line, Well, that's not loud enough.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're like of other fishermen, particularly fly fishermen, Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhere on your bucket list. If you ask an

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<v Speaker 1>angler what they think of when they envision Alaska, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find a lot of the same images and species repeating.

1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Salmon runs so dense you could walk across the river

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<v Speaker 1>on the backs of silvers and kings you know, Dolly Varden,

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<v Speaker 1>longer than your arm, and painted up like clowns and

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<v Speaker 1>their full spawning regalia, steelhead of mythical proportions and their

1:22:46.400 --> 1:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>resident rainbow counterparts. Back flipping and cartwheeling out of the river,

1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and sore shoulders from spending all days swinging flies, catching

1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:58.360
<v Speaker 1>fish after fish, and experiencing arguably the greatest cold water

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<v Speaker 1>fishing the world has to offer. There's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an open secret in these rivers, almost as omnipresident

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<v Speaker 1>as the fish we target, and it's as effective as

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<v Speaker 1>it is divisive. My friends, that secret is the trout bead. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before we wade into the controversy surrounding the fishing of beads,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the beads themselves. For the uninitiated, a

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<v Speaker 1>trout beat is a small spherical bead pegged with a

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<v Speaker 1>toothpick about two inches above a bear hook. Beads can

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<v Speaker 1>be fished on any riggs, spin, centerpin or fly. At

1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>first glance, a bead is pretty cut and dry. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's literally just around beads, similar to the thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of beads you'd find at the hobby lobby in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some anglers by beads at the hobby lobby

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<v Speaker 1>because there is an entire subculture dedicated to bead fishing

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<v Speaker 1>that is as fanatical about colors, weight, sizes, and hues

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<v Speaker 1>as dry fly fishermen are trying to pick out that

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<v Speaker 1>perfect shade of done for their quill. Gordon's All beads

1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:58.639
<v Speaker 1>are not created equal, however, and anglers are fiercely devoted

1:23:58.680 --> 1:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to their preferences glass versus plastic, peach verse orange, six

1:24:03.240 --> 1:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>millimeter or eight millimeter bead specific companies have made fortunes

1:24:07.600 --> 1:24:11.439
<v Speaker 1>selling beads crafted with jealously guarded secret formulas for just

1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:15.479
<v Speaker 1>the right color, sheen, and molting. You'll find grown men

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:21.439
<v Speaker 1>hoarding nail polish like teenage girls, scoturing pharmacies and makeup

1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:24.479
<v Speaker 1>counters in their free time, looking for that perfect shade

1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of red, pink, orange, or even blue for the all

1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>important blood dot. Now onto the controversy. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into whether or not it's fly fishing us

1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>between you, the fish, and a higher power. The real

1:24:36.080 --> 1:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>controversy is how the fish is hooked. To understand this,

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<v Speaker 1>we first need to understand how a bead rig works

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned, a bead rig is a bear hook

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<v Speaker 1>with a bead pegged about two inches up the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>When the fish bites the bead, the angler sets the hook,

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<v Speaker 1>and that hook, which is dangling outside the fish's mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>is pulled into the outside corner of their jaw. Here's

1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:01.519
<v Speaker 1>why that's controversial. Many people see the placement of that

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<v Speaker 1>hook set outside the mouth and immediately equate that is

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that this is no more than a legal means

1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to floss or snag fish. Go ahead and search is

1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>bead fishing ethical on Google and you'll find forums filled

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<v Speaker 1>with heated eight page arguments between anglers debating the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that bead fishing is not floss ng

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<v Speaker 1>or snagging for one simple reason, the fish has to

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<v Speaker 1>voluntarily bite the bead in order to hook themselves. From

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective, that alone settles the debate. Sporting ethics society,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll often hear folks argue that beads are somehow damaging

1:25:36.840 --> 1:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to the fish. Beads are deadly effective. But if there's

1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>one thing they're not, it's deadly. If you're into fish

1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and catch and release, beads could very well be the

1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>most ethical tool at your disposal. Because the bead is

1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:53.559
<v Speaker 1>pegged a few inches above the hook, the fish can

1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>inhale it without the danger of being hooked deeply. The

1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:59.519
<v Speaker 1>hook set pulls the hook into the outside corner of

1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>its mouth, not into its gullet. Not only does this

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<v Speaker 1>save the fish from having its gills ripped apart by

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<v Speaker 1>a deeply taken yet apparently more ethical, glob bug, it

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<v Speaker 1>also saves a fish from the difficult hook removals that

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<v Speaker 1>often come with a deep take. In fisheries where significant

1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:18.959
<v Speaker 1>cold is a factor, like Great Lakes steelhead fisheries, for instance,

1:26:19.400 --> 1:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>this can save a fish from flash frozen gills. It's

1:26:22.880 --> 1:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>simply easier to remove a hook from the outside corner

1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of a steelhead's mouth without taking it out of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might be thinking to yourself that I'm some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bead fishing evangelists. You may be surprised to

1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>know that I've only ever fished beads a handful of times. Unfortunately,

1:26:38.640 --> 1:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm cursed with a bug for tieing bugs and plagued

1:26:41.400 --> 1:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>by the compulsion to use them. That said, I fished

1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:49.479
<v Speaker 1>with many many centerpin spin and fly anglers who all

1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>use beads I've netted well over a hundred bead caught

1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:55.559
<v Speaker 1>steel head, and in all that time, there are two

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've seen, very very rarely, a deeply hooked

1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>fish or if fish hooked more than an inch or

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<v Speaker 1>two from its mouth. Sorry, fly guys, I'll be the

1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>first to admit that I've pulled a lot of pheasant

1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>tales and soccer spawn from peck fins. H Yes, the

1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>bad debate, whether or not we all agree one day

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<v Speaker 1>remains to be seen. But as long as there are

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<v Speaker 1>people catching fish, they're going to be folks complaining about

1:27:19.720 --> 1:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>how they're going about it. Are you a big guy

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<v Speaker 1>feverishly painting until the wee hours of the morning while

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<v Speaker 1>you gear up for your next steelhead trip? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a fly fishing purist who thinks of beats for the

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<v Speaker 1>undoing of everything a sportsman stands for. Whatever your position,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to drop us a note at bent at

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<v Speaker 1>the Meat eater dot Com, letting us know where you

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<v Speaker 1>stand on the bat debate, and if, perhaps for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, a beat ends up at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>your line. Yeah, man, you know I don't to be

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<v Speaker 1>truthful with you like we do. Such a volume of

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<v Speaker 1>writing for this show that a lot of times it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to remember what you wrote. Um. An example is

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<v Speaker 1>like when I first signed on to do this and

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<v Speaker 1>was doing these fish news segments, one of my first thoughts, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be great. I'm gonna have like so

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<v Speaker 1>much conservation knowledge like floating around in my head. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to speak to so many things. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember the story I wrote last week, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, man. Yeah, but with with this one in particular. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always thought, you know, if you are focused on

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<v Speaker 1>the art form of fishing, I can understand your objection

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<v Speaker 1>to a bead. It's a utilitarian tool. But a utilitarian

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<v Speaker 1>tool outside of a philosophical sort of take on it

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily something bad. It's not something that deserves

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a ship reputation is something that non anglers do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that different anglers do. Man, it's like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who really appreciates um, you know, uh right, like abstract

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<v Speaker 1>guitar playing. You know, I'll a Hendrix or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not gonna, you know, ship on people

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<v Speaker 1>playing shred metal just because it's not what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a different take on like a thing and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good. It's not bad, you know it just

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<v Speaker 1>it just is a different thing and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to love it, but you don't have to bash it. Hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that you have basically summed up. Now that we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've closed out here our final final segment, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hear that end of the line. But what you just said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from from beginning to end, that is what

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is about. Right, we are about. We don't we

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a damn how you fish. We don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what your faction is. Welcome here, Yeah, unless your Walleye

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<v Speaker 1>fish somewhere else. Yeah, uh, Phil likes Walleyes, I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but listen from the from the bottom of my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been fun. I can't thank both of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enough for working so hard with me on on

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<v Speaker 1>bent Um. This has been one of the coolest things

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever done. I will always be that guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's welcoming to all. You know. I love talking to

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on social you know where to find me, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and until we meet again, and we will eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to thank Miles, even though he's not

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here with us today. Um. A lot has gone

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<v Speaker 1>into this and it has been an absolute blast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys enjoyed being part of it as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I did. I mean, dude, Bent was a

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<v Speaker 1>was a community. Man. It still is a community. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still is a community. The archive will always be there,

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<v Speaker 1>but um yeah, I'm just so thankful to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>participated in it. And what I'm proud of most I

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<v Speaker 1>think isn't even the work, or like the writing or

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<v Speaker 1>were the podcast itself. Man, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you'd agree with this. It's the connection that we made

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<v Speaker 1>with our listeners and and giving them kind of Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what drives everything I do. Man. That's what I'm about,

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<v Speaker 1>is is using these platforms to link up with good people.

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<v Speaker 1>I linked up with you guys. Phil. Are you still here?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right here. Yeah. For the great those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know I am, I am off camera and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe can't see me. For all he knows if I've

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<v Speaker 1>left and gone to take a ship. Phil, Phil, we

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<v Speaker 1>should cut right there. The last thing you would hear

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<v Speaker 1>is Phil talking about going to take a ship. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You boys are legends, listen. I want to thank Meat

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<v Speaker 1>Eather too for giving me the opportunity and us the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to make this fishing podcast. I look very forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing what the fishing landscape looks like here down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. And until I see you guys somewhere out

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<v Speaker 1>there again, I'm just gonna close by saying, tight lines,

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<v Speaker 1>degenerates leader, Lets look at