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Speaker 1: driving around and like, you know, maybe you're not feeling

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Speaker 1: particularly festive, man, but you get like a couple of

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Speaker 1: those and like like the recent Meat Eater Tiki Bar special, right,

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Speaker 1: like just just things like that they put you in

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Speaker 1: the Christmas spirit. Man. They put in the holiday spirit.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I'm embarrassed by how much I love

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Speaker 1: kitchy holiday ship and so there's nothing better than a

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Speaker 1: theme show. The only problem with Bent was we always

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Speaker 1: aired on the goddamn holiday. Was always like on Christmas morning.

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Speaker 1: It's like, son of a bitch, my favorite holiday thing ever.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know that you like this ray leot

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Speaker 1: to one, but my favorite was and we're gonna bleep

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Speaker 1: that name out, uh, reading the bad Santa Claus and uh,

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Speaker 1: and then getting Joe's innocent kids right. He made my

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Speaker 1: kids say all kinds up ship, what do you say, daddy?

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Speaker 1: What's a hangover? Yeah, something like that. And I just

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Speaker 1: made him say all kinds of I made him lay

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Speaker 1: it down, all kinds of audio about fighting yous, like

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Speaker 1: I'll fight you, Hayden. Yeah, will you just send those

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Speaker 1: to me personally? But yeah, like ruining the sanctity of

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Speaker 1: my child for a Christmas bid. I was all about it, though,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was totally on board. Christmas was always fun. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Halloween fan, and I remember hated Halloween.

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Speaker 1: He hated Halloween, which I could not. How do you

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Speaker 1: hate Halloween? I feel like that tracks pretty well with

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Speaker 1: myles personality. I'm a guy who loves Miles. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think Halloween is divisive because the decorations, like you know

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Speaker 1: who else who else hates certain aspects of Halloween are

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Speaker 1: pal Clay nucam Man he he he is very strong opinions,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with I'd like to say I agree

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Speaker 1: with literally all of them. Um about about like violent

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Speaker 1: Halloween decorations and and how it's like, but those are

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Speaker 1: formative experiences as a child is becomber night, Like my

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Speaker 1: neighborhood goes big, Like somebody's got like a red wagon

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Speaker 1: full of beers in a coolie just walk around, drink

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Speaker 1: a beer the kids, Right, how do you hate hallew?

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: like if you wouldn't put it in like a movie preview,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think you ought to put it on

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Speaker 1: your front lawn. Man, it's not Halloween unless there's a

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Speaker 1: house that you're terrified to walk by. That's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Phil. That's the fun when the kids like

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Speaker 1: like there's like there's always the characters sitting on the

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Speaker 1: front board, and you like, is that stuffed with straw?

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Speaker 1: Or is that a dude? And I'm like, they're like, no, daddy,

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Speaker 1: you come n no, you go you want the candy?

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Speaker 1: You go up there? Come on, man, that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: like that like to traumatize it. Child is going on here.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't like this thing, and you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: how couldn't you not like this completely different thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's fun that you bring up that Clay doesn't like

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Speaker 1: Halloween because one of one of my all time favorite

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Speaker 1: things we ever did on this show, truthfully, and it

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Speaker 1: was the last It was a last minute decision, right,

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Speaker 1: but I forced Miles into a Halloween episode. This is

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Speaker 1: all the way back to episode twelve, and he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? That's so halloweeny? To tie

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Speaker 1: it together, so I mashed up all these horror movie

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Speaker 1: clips with Bill Dance, which is similar similar to like

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Speaker 1: mashing up Clay Newcomb clips with with like these terrible

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Speaker 1: horror movies. And it was the dumbest thing, but it

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Speaker 1: was one of my favorites. So let's let's play a

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Speaker 1: few those. We'll start. Here's Bill Dance in The Exorcist

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Speaker 1: twitch Twitch Twitch, Twitch Twitch Poles, Twitch switch Twitch that

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Speaker 1: was kind of violent. That was like, that was like,

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Speaker 1: that was the most guttural. One was The Exorcist. When

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go in order of what I thought was

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Speaker 1: the best. So then now here's Bill Dance, uh, confronting

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Speaker 1: Jason in a face off in Friday thirteen. What you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? What you're gonna do? Huh? Show off a

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Speaker 1: little and you can see it in your mind, like

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Speaker 1: Bill with his with his tea hat on, looking not

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Speaker 1: looking at Jason vorhees, Yeah, just oh yeah, yeah. And

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Speaker 1: a sharpener, that electric hook sharpener Bill Dance always plugged.

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Speaker 1: But then and said, then we get into like like

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Speaker 1: these are my master work. Starting with Bill Dance in

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Speaker 1: the Predator. There's something out there waiting for us and

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Speaker 1: it ain't no man. He's big as a thorny wos,

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Speaker 1: but he's good. He just looked big. Then that one

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Speaker 1: was was just perfect. And then the the cherry on

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Speaker 1: the cake. I mean, this might be the best thing

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Speaker 1: I've done in a seventeen year career. Is mash Bill

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Speaker 1: Dance in the Poltergeist. How are you this boring? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Where do you look around? More? Purple brown? Kind of

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Speaker 1: a purple bad keep that baite in one spot. What

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Speaker 1: do you look for in a good baite cashing rod

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Speaker 1: when you're on a fixed income? I don't know, Like

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things, like, you know, creative people

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Speaker 1: like you guys get like you're making it and you're

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, yes, that just SYNCD up beautifully.

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Speaker 1: So it was no segment, it was nothing. They were

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Speaker 1: nothing but little bullshits we peppered in. But man like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they'll ever be repeated, but

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Speaker 1: I think they also speak to like, come on, man.

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Speaker 1: Pop culture has played such a big part in this

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Speaker 1: show because I I love pop culture, Like that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm about. Well, i'll tell you what. Man Like. One

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Speaker 1: of like the most intimidating uh like things about Bent,

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Speaker 1: like coming in as a as a co host. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: that I would have to like like talk about fishing

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Speaker 1: in an intelligent way for like an hour every week?

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Speaker 1: It was I was, I was. I was worried about

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Speaker 1: my fishing knowledge. I was worried about my pop culture knowledge.

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Speaker 1: And another place that you see a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: really just classic and good pop culture references actually like

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Speaker 1: the interstitials man Like, I feel like the breadth of

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Speaker 1: effects in like transitions that Phil put together referencing pop culture.

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Speaker 1: I was like, back, we had a whole episode called

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Speaker 1: we had we themed a whole episode around Coral Weathers.

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Speaker 1: It's called Caral Weathers Goes to Cabella. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know that's what I'm talking about. But yes, you bring

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Speaker 1: up Phil. Like in the very early days, Phil, you

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Speaker 1: did not judge our news segments. You were not there

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Speaker 1: to weigh in, and then we thought that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really great idea. And of course you're sitting here

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Speaker 1: now because you added so much. You were an integral

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Speaker 1: part of this show. But there was one news story

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Speaker 1: I did in particular um that I think Miles hated

544
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Speaker 1: because it wasn't newsy or informative enough. But it was

545
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Speaker 1: just about duo lures coming out with Pokemon themed lures

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Speaker 1: that were extremely hard to get. And it was your

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Speaker 1: way in on that news episode that I was like,

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Speaker 1: Phil gets me, Phil gets us, Phil gets this, let's

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Speaker 1: play that way in Miles, thank you for sticking up

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Speaker 1: for me, because Joe, I don't know what about me

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Speaker 1: would make you think that I'm the kind of person

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Speaker 1: who would know that a Pikachu is a species and

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Speaker 1: therefore can be male or female, or that Kyoga is

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Speaker 1: a legendary water Pokemon first introduced in Gen three. In

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Speaker 1: was the cover Pokemon for Pokemon Sapphire on the Game

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Speaker 1: Boy Advance. But you know, much like those nerds who

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Speaker 1: play Pokemon, I'll do a little role playing here and

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: pretend to be someone who was interested in any of

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Speaker 1: that bull crap and say, oh, Joe, you're the winner.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me know about all these really cool lures.

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Speaker 1: The uh let's see still out of stock. Damn it.

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: That was the moment when I was like, Phil is

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Speaker 1: in on all of this. He's in on all the jokes.

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Speaker 1: But then, Phil, I mean, look, you always seem to

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Speaker 1: enjoy those way ins. You were always having fun. I

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Speaker 1: did well. I just going way way back. I think

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Speaker 1: it was I I do you. I don't remember when

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Speaker 1: you asked me to start weighing in on fish news,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was relatively early. It was like

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Speaker 1: a round episode ten, maybe maybe a little bit before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I was I was baffled at that decision. I

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Speaker 1: didn't understand it, but you know, I knew you were

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Speaker 1: just kind of trying to put a little pin on

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Speaker 1: the end of fish News. Ever every week, so I

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Speaker 1: played along and I just kind of every week I

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Speaker 1: would kind of just push it a little further and

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Speaker 1: see how unhinged and I was waiting for I was

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Speaker 1: waiting to get some notes at some point, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: I never never out of all of the fish News

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Speaker 1: reactions I did. I think I only ever got one

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Speaker 1: note where you guys are like, maybe change that, and

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Speaker 1: it was because it was kind of like an off

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Speaker 1: color joke and I totally totally understood, but you guys

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Speaker 1: let me do anything, which was honestly, I loved it.

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Speaker 1: It was so much fun. I was gonna say, because,

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Speaker 1: like you gotta understand, from a host perspective, we knew

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Speaker 1: everything in the show when we would hear that the

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Speaker 1: like the you know, we we always listened to these

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Speaker 1: shows before they go out. We knew everything we said,

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: but we didn't know what you said. So it would

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Speaker 1: be like with bated breath, I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: here comes in the new is what it's still gonna say.

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Speaker 1: It was like the one element we had no idea

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Speaker 1: until we heard it. But like you said, they got

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Speaker 1: more and more elaborate. I don't have time to go

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Speaker 1: into the whole like multipart soap opera. You did where

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Speaker 1: you do? My favorite? That was my moment and then

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Speaker 1: come back to life. But I think you were testing

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Speaker 1: the waters on the filled death with your way in

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Speaker 1: an episode fifty four, which was also always one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. Phil, Honey, it's time to wake up? What

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Speaker 1: I gotta wake up? It's time to edit the podcast? Mom? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: you ready? Yeah? Yeah, let's let's do the podcast. How

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Speaker 1: do I How do I do it? Okay? See that

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Speaker 1: button there, the blue one? Push that one? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: good now edit edit and then what do I click? Now? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Now I want you to export? Hit the export ble

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, okay X export to await MP three,

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Speaker 1: MP three Yes, all right, you got it. I did it.

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Speaker 1: Good job and the winner for best Engineered podcast episode

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Speaker 1: of all time goes to Phil for episode of ben

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you'd like to thank? WHOA? I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, uh the guy upstairs? J C, my boy,

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Speaker 1: how's the view? Uh? Tony at Arby's Joe, Sir Mellie

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Speaker 1: the winner of fish News this week. Oh my mom. Mom,

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Speaker 1: thanks for waking me up. And I couldn't have done

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Speaker 1: it without you. Phill, Honey, it's time to take out

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Speaker 1: the track mob. Shut up, you're embarrassing me. God. That

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Speaker 1: was like just the creativity had been had been notched

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Speaker 1: up there, just like well, well sure, I just want

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Speaker 1: to say really quick that one of the reasons listen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's no secret that I I know

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Speaker 1: jack about fishing, but I I loved working on this

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Speaker 1: podcast because just of the layers of just pop culture,

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00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: just bullshittery that went in a week. And I mean

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Speaker 1: that in the most like loving way. I I it

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Speaker 1: was it was my dream to work on a show

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Speaker 1: like this. I never knew it would be a phishing podcast,

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Speaker 1: but like, but like every I was, I was always

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Speaker 1: intimidated doing the Fish News weigh In because I felt

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Speaker 1: like I needed to kind of at least get kind

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Speaker 1: of close to like you and Miles about with with

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Speaker 1: with the stuff you were referencing and the jokes you

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Speaker 1: were making, and so I I just I loved that

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Speaker 1: you guys gave me like a super long leash to

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Speaker 1: kind of get weird when honestly, to be honest, the

637
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Speaker 1: weeks where I got weird were the ones where I

638
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: honestly I couldn't think of anything funny. I couldn't think

639
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: of just like a one line joke. So I was like,

640
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna turn this into a bit that maybe

641
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: they'll I'll turn it and Joe will Will say, no,

642
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Should compile them all in one

643
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: shot and and make that a whole separate podcast. One

644
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: of my favorite things, dude. I mean, like, why I

645
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: think about Phil Taylor fish news reads. I think tasteful

646
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: and elaborate. Yeah, speaking of tasteful and elaborate, we can't

647
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: we can't end this show. We can't talk about what

648
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Speaker 1: bent was without bringing up Lance V. What what are

649
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: your two thoughts on on old Lance? He hasn't been

650
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: around and Lance V okay, there's one Phil. He just

651
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: he was just misunderstood. Yeah, that's how I think. And

652
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: did you you you want to talk about a a

653
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: love hate segment Throughout this there was no middle ground

654
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: for Lance V. But despite all the fun that we've had, right,

655
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: all the pop culture and all the jokes, like, we

656
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: did try to be educational and I will stand by that. Um,

657
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: he was brought in purely for educational purposes. Is one

658
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: living awarding. No, because everybody wants to be an Instagram

659
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: and YouTube star these days. We're just trying to help

660
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: you along with the best information we can give you.

661
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Speaker 1: Um So, you know, I struggled to come up with

662
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Speaker 1: with what what Lance do we do? We rerun here,

663
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Speaker 1: but I mean there's really only one. I think it

664
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Speaker 1: was the most educational and it is a piece of

665
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: knowledge all of you can carry with you till the

666
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: end of time, or at least until Instagram goes away,

667
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: which will happen eventually. The land, to the boats, to

668
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: the like, to the sea, getting up the n on net.

669
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Speaker 1: But your boy lags. What's happening? Qualified captains, It's your

670
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: favorite Internet fishing guru, Lance Fee, here to aid you

671
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: in continuing education about killing it as an online angler.

672
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Speaker 1: This week we have a deep question from Josh hy

673
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Speaker 1: who writes guys, come on this Lance v guy is

674
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: a freaking chuckle head. But if you had to pick

675
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: just one Instagram filter, what would it be? I have

676
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: to be honest, Josh, I didn't want to answer this question.

677
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this information is so powerful that it

678
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: could shave years off your pursuit of Internet greatness and

679
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: rocking to the top two quickly can be dangerous, just

680
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Speaker 1: as the Greek dude with the wax wings, or the

681
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: kids and Criss Cross who spent decades in therapy to

682
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Speaker 1: overcome their desire to wear their pants backwards hashtag Daddy Mac.

683
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: But I decided to go for it, so brace yourselves.

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Speaker 1: The answer is half a Listen. I know that was

685
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot to take in. Many of you are probably

686
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: in shock right now. Don't torch yourself for all the

687
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: mediocre fish photos you posted using Ludwig or Perpetua. Those

688
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: wasted opportunities to grow your social media presence. You didn't know.

689
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: You were so sure using Nashville on that tight shot

690
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: of a bass broke brand crank bait would take your

691
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: posts from worthless to art that your ten followers would say,

692
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: my god, it's breathtaking. You were absolutely positive the slightly

693
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: washed out look of Lark was perfect for another sun

694
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: rise over the pay leg photo. And you were so wrong.

695
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: But I'm here to tell you it's okay. We all

696
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Hashtag here with me. Hef A is the answer.

697
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: It's always been the answer, and you need not understand

698
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: why the details come with similar consequences to figuring out

699
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: who killed JFK or Weather Vanilla Ice knowingly sampled that

700
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Queen song in Ice Ice Baby, listen, I've already told

701
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: you too much, and I feared divulging for the information

702
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: about the powers of HAFE could lead to issues regarding

703
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Speaker 1: my personal safety or worse, a loss of sponsorship opportunities

704
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: with hashtag Nights of Columbus. Josh, You're welcome, but I

705
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: want to make it clear I take no responsibility for

706
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: how you or anyone else uses this information hashtag risk

707
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: fact there side note on that hef A was also

708
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Speaker 1: one of the colors of the special Bent Magnum dubbing

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Speaker 1: we gave away the the hef A future, Yeah, it was.

710
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Speaker 1: Are you using the heif A filter, Hayden, Oh yeah,

711
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: and everything I do. Hayden. Actually, he sent me a

712
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: picture asking for medical advice of you know, some of

713
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: his his nether regions, and it had the hef A

714
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Speaker 1: filter over it. He's like, do I like to keep

715
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Speaker 1: it consistent? Now? Why I don't forget that? Why I

716
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: don't slip up? Yeah? You send that and be like Jesus,

717
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Speaker 1: Hayden he's this large. That's why it took me so

718
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: long to figure out the mobile deposit feature on my

719
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: banking app. I kept using the hef A filter on

720
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Speaker 1: the check. Yeah, that's not gonna work. The algorithm doesn't

721
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: pick up on that. You know. I just want to say,

722
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: really quick, it's you. You revealed earlier that you had

723
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: your friend doing all of those celebrity impressions. I think

724
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: we should reveal here and today that lance V is

725
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: a real person. Yes, yeah, yes, despite anything we might

726
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: have said in a drunken stupor, I I walk it

727
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: all back. A lot of things are getting walked back

728
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: these days, so let's walk this one back. Um. Lance

729
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: V is absolutely real. He is absolutely real. And that

730
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: was I have no regrets about lance V and act

731
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: he was. He was one of my favorites. Hayden, who

732
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: was one of your favorite characters on this show? Tell us, well,

733
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be Bob the garbage man man. Yeah,

734
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: and Bob did not dip on us like lance Vae.

735
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Bob stuck around, Um, mostly because we we pay him

736
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. He doesn't have a lot of income.

737
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, man, You know, my one

738
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: regret is that is that we didn't get to hear

739
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: from Bob the garbage Man just one more time. Yeah,

740
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: well we're we're going to We're gonna hear it. We're

741
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna play some Bob. We have to. And I'll tell

742
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: you why. Bob was the first voice other than Miles

743
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: and I anybody ever heard on this show. The very

744
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: first thing you heard that was not us was a

745
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: fishing report, a regional report by Bob the garbage Man.

746
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: And uh, a year later, when we got two, episode

747
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: fifty two in celebration, we said, well, we've got to

748
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: bring Bob back for the for the year anniversary. Um.

749
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: And we did that with covering Water, which I know Phil.

750
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Covering Water was a favorite segment years. That's our rapid

751
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: fire Q and a segment Oh yeah no, that's that

752
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite segments. Uh, mostly because it

753
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: was always pretty standard. You know, you would ask you

754
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: phishing questions, favorite this, least favorite that, and then you

755
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: would throw in a curveball, change it, and they didn't

756
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: know how to react. It was sort of like what

757
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: movie bla la lah, and they're like ship and then

758
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: they just like spit out the first thing they thought

759
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: of and uh. And my favorite moments are always the

760
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: ones that got a huge reaction from you, Joe, because

761
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: they would say something just preposterous or something you weren't

762
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: expecting and you just say like, oh, we're gonna have

763
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: to revisit that one second. Yeah, it always came a

764
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: minute to follow up and like, you have to talk

765
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: about this one I'm choosing for you. That was my

766
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: favorite thing is how that specific part was framed in

767
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: the intro was always like, yeah, we're gonna rapid fire you.

768
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: However many questions and you will have a minute to

769
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: elaborate on one of your choosing and Joe always chose

770
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: the decision. Listen, we appreciate Bob's many useful contributions to Bent.

771
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna still have to deal with him

772
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: after Bent, but let's throw it back. This is a

773
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: this is a covering water full of nothing but curveballs. Uh.

774
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: The one and only time Miles and I sat down

775
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: with him, at least digitally together, I'm going in. I

776
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: can hold it. No, I'm all so joining us today

777
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: for covering water. We've got none other than our own

778
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: resident Stripers surf chunky expert Bob the garbage Man Britana

779
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: on a new ski and we haven't heard from you

780
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: in a while, Bob, and I must say, I'm shocked

781
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: that you actually harnessed the technology necessary to join us

782
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Can you can you hear me and

783
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: ship or we recording yet or whatever? Yeah, we are great.

784
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm actually at the Atlantic City Public Library at the moment,

785
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: the miserable lady that works here setting us whole day

786
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: up in the computer laboratory or whatever it is. I

787
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: didn't even know they had computers in here, Budd. In fairness,

788
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: the only time I have come in here is what

789
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm fishing off Tennessee Avenue. Would have to take a ship,

790
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: so you know, way to utilize public resources, Bob, where

791
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: to go? Who's talking now? Niles? Miles, it's Miles. You

792
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: you know my name? Yeah, yeah, right. I know you

793
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: like poetry, books and ship, but you hate this library. Niles.

794
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: All you got is five copies of MERV. Griffin's autobiography

795
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: and ten books from the eighties about playing Keino. But

796
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: they keep the soap and toilet paper full. So your

797
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: tax dollars are hard at work on my asshole. It's money. Well,

798
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: spend money, well spend so listen. Uh. Part of the

799
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: reason we were eager to have you on is because

800
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: I've kind of been dying to ask, man, why the

801
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: leap to social media? You've been so vocal over the

802
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: years about hating on the internet. Yet you you've you've

803
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: already wrecked up nearly three thousand followers on Instagram. Yeah. Well,

804
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: well the short answer for you there Joey's money. Yeah,

805
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: somebody told me you make big money is on the internets.

806
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Of course I made a nickel yet, but I look

807
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: at it like playing the lottery. It's a small investment.

808
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: But maybe someday you hit you know. But tell you

809
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: the truth, I don't even know one of them walkie

810
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: talking phones who's probably got glued to your faces. My

811
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: neighbor's kid got one from that cricket store, and he's

812
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: a little slow and useless anyway, So I basically worked

813
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: at a deal where he follows me around and these types.

814
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: Whatever the I say and puts it on insta book,

815
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: you know. So, so what what's the kid getting in

816
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: exchange for for transcribing all your winsdom there tell us? Yeah,

817
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he ain't the brightest Bolton Niles. I bought

818
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: him a pack of Big League two once a week,

819
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: and I told him when I get to twenty fans

820
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: will buy him anything he wants on Phillips Head Andy's

821
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: table at the flea market. Sounds really, That sounds fair, Bob.

822
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. Look, we didn't really bring

823
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: you on to discuss your thoughts on ocean policies, you know,

824
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: but we I mean, we could make a whole whole

825
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: segment around that, we could. I I'm sure you have

826
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: some thoughts on ocean policies, um, but we we brought

827
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: you on to learn more about who you really are. Okay,

828
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: and we already know you're one of the most revered

829
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: surfcasters ever to grace the striper scene. Correct. We already

830
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: know you've caught more big stripers exclusively chunkin bunker than

831
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: pretty much anyone else on the planet. Also, correct, But

832
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: but our covering water segment is designed more to find

833
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: out who the man behind the skills really is. As

834
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: long as I'm making enough for beef eaters or whatever

835
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: to cover the cost of the Moon's over Mihammy at Denny's,

836
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I'll cover whatever you want. Yeah, But we'll talk to

837
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: payroll see if we can get some moons over. Mihammy.

838
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: You should be all set do that. I will, I will,

839
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: But in case, I'm pretty sure you haven't listened to

840
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: the show, Bob, so I'm tell you how this goes. Yeah,

841
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: So what we do on covering water is we put

842
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: two minutes on the clock, all right, and we rapid

843
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: fire questions at you. And the whole idea is you

844
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: can't think too hard about your answers. You just you

845
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: just have to react. Jesus Christ, that's easy. I do

846
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: this once a week at the Social Security office of

847
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: the COVID Clinic, but they give you even less time

848
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: to answer, so, you know, a piece of cake. Great.

849
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: Then after that, what we do with the end is

850
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: we give you one full minute to expand on anyr answers.

851
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: All right, sound good? Yeah, whatever sounds great, Niles, Let's

852
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: just harry this the because I think I left the

853
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: pot of lead melting on the electric cop flight in

854
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: my bathtub. All right, we'll move it along. Then we'll

855
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: move it along. Okay, here we go. What's the best

856
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: vehicle you ever owned? That's easy. My old Ford Pinto

857
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: and my Pontiac Aztec that got jeted. That's too but

858
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: we'll go with it, all right, Graphite or fiberglass only

859
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: torps like Niles use graphite. If you weren't so devoted

860
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: to stripe bass, what do you think you'd fish for

861
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: stripe us? What's the best concert you've ever been to?

862
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: Ship C c U and I traded my Ford Pinto

863
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: for them tickets? If you could fish with any celebrity,

864
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: living or dead, who would it be? Oh? That's easy,

865
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: Tim to toolbag Taylor, but he can't bring that move

866
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: with the flannel with him. Your your favorite summer cocktail

867
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: is hot sambuca? All right? If you were forced at

868
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: gunpoint to tie on a lure for stripers instead of

869
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: using a chunk, which lure would it be? I'm taking

870
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: the bullet, Joey? Okay, all right? What's the worst job

871
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: you ever had? Doing this? Right now? All right? If

872
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: you had to guess how big was the biggest striper

873
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: you ever caught? I don't know, between eighties seven and

874
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, I guess I don't know. Mm hmmm

875
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: are you bald under that wool hat you always wear?

876
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: Ask your mother? Niles? Oh, all right, how about this

877
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: what's your favorite vacation destination. I'd like to soak a

878
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: chunk in Thailand one day. If you know what I'm saying.

879
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't, of course you don't. Your your favorite movie

880
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: is uh I don't tell mom the babysitter is dead. Probably. Wow,

881
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: that's time. Okay, I didn't see that one coming. Really

882
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: that's the movie, okay, I question whether al Right, Well, anyway,

883
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: that's time so perfect. Okay, let's wrap this up. I

884
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: gotta run. Whoa, whoa, whoa? You still got you still

885
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: got a minute to expand on anyone your answers to

886
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: explain yourself, I said, Jesus Christ. I'm sure I accidentally

887
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: left that burner on. And the last time that happened,

888
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: the old lady next door called the dipshit super, which

889
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: resulted in him discovering that I ran an extension court

890
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: upper fire escaped steel her electricity. So unless you just

891
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: want to up the price to cover my electric bill

892
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: or the price to two pounds of custom twenty, let's

893
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: say hurry the fuck. Alright, alright, alright, well, which what

894
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: are you gonna answer? Which one you gonna expand on? Pass?

895
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Can I pass? No? No? Not? Have you tell us

896
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: you've got like a ninety pound striper. You gotta you

897
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell us more about that. For Christ's sake,

898
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: that had to be in seventy nine or eighty. That's

899
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: how much I figure it. Way before I gave it

900
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: to Kenny. To Benny, he dropped another four to five

901
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: pounds lead down and throw it before he took it

902
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: to the Chinese place next to the other Chinese place

903
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: on Bultic Avenue. But you're looking for some epic story,

904
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: and there eight one eight a bunket chunk. I really

905
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: in Stevie the cop clubbed it with a piece of reball,

906
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: and I gave it to Kenny for a pack of smokes,

907
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: half a school of sixty pound pink Andy monta film,

908
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: and had a pair of clean socks. Anyway, I know

909
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: how much you appreciate me being here and how much

910
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate my time. So good bye, shit. I think

911
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: he gone, he gone, yep, I think I think that

912
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: was all we're gonna hear from Bob. I still, I

913
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: still am shocked that that Bob's favorite movie per that

914
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: we learned is don't tell Mom the Babysitters Dead. You

915
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: know that one Hayden. You've seen that one? Phil? Seen

916
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: that one? Phil? Phil? Can you throw a quote from

917
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: that movie? Just one? Uh? Joe, I have not seen

918
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: that movie. Oh god, the dishes are done. Man, No, nobody,

919
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: don't Christina Applegate. No anyway. See, that's what I always

920
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: brought to the show, was like the dumb movie facts, like, yeah,

921
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Joe, I mean, it's it's this was

922
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: what was intimidating is because you're just only if you're

923
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: a few years older than me, and you brought those

924
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: eighties movies references like it was just before my my

925
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: time of watching like Angels in the Outfield and all

926
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: the shitty nineties stuff that I love, Rookie of the

927
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Mannequin two on the Run. I got a lot of

928
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: ship either from Joe or like Guess or just you know,

929
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: listeners who felt the need to hit me up on

930
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: Instagram or the inbox about stuff that I hadn't seen.

931
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: What was that one in particular that I got like

932
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: a raft of ship for not having seen. Oh, for

933
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Christ's sakes, dude, it was Chris. It was it was

934
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: Christmas Vacation. You said on this show that you've never

935
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: seen National lampoons Christmas. That's un American, that's like phil Like,

936
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: is that not impossible even if you don't go out

937
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: of your way to watch it, like it ends up

938
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: on in the airport or your aunt's house or something

939
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: like somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, like playing on

940
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: on TBS just in the background. Yeah right, definitely. You

941
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. No, that's fine, I'm gonna let it slide.

942
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: But that's what I brought was was dumb movie references.

943
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Miles worked very hard to bring literacy to this show,

944
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: and I actually appreciated that. Um and people gave us

945
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: such a hard time for freaking yeah, yeah exactly, and

946
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: and we got such a hard talking about that, and

947
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: and we've we've said it's not that I didn't love

948
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: freaking Philistines, just Miles like read books like a machine,

949
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: and I admired that, but I I could not read

950
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: enough books. I couldn't read enough fast enough, and I

951
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: could you Hayden to like really keep that going. But

952
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: we also had a segment that he came up with

953
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: called Weekly Word, and then that kind of fell by

954
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: the wayside because you were like, I don't have any words,

955
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I just like, I don't know

956
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: any words. I'll tell you why. Man. If there's one

957
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: thing I've been accused of as being verbose, how's that

958
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: for a word? Um, well, that's yeah. I don't know, man.

959
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: Like some of those were dogs back in the day,

960
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: but some of them were a lot of fun. And um,

961
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Hayden and I we're gonna have a debate after we

962
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: play what was my my all time favorite? I wrote

963
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: to you about this. You wrote to me about this

964
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: before you were even involved with this show. But there's

965
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: one weekly word going way back, all the way to

966
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: episode twenty eight that stands out to me, and um,

967
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna stand out to you too. If you're one

968
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: of my my Phillippeople Webster's dictionary define fish as this

969
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: week's word is John. That's j A w N. And

970
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a word that really has nothing to do with fishing,

971
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: but at the same time could technically have everything to

972
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: do with fishing. And the only reason I'm even doing

973
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: this John is because I said the word John in

974
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: another episode and Miles, being the words smith that he is,

975
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: was so intrigued by my John he had to know

976
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: more about the John. John is a slang term that

977
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: originated in Philadelphia at least mostly and we'll get to that,

978
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: and is used so much even in Philly's surrounding pa

979
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: in New Jersey suburbs, that it often appears in advertising.

980
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: McDonald's even got down on that John, with billboards featuring

981
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: nothing but a sausage McMuffin in the words that's my John.

982
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: Visit Philly dot COM's billboards read there's no John like

983
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: Home and vitamin water plaster the area with billboards that

984
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: said vitamins electrolytes, get that John. So what is this John? Well,

985
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: according to that Oxford Dictionary, john john refers to a thing, place, person,

986
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: or event that one need not or cannot give a

987
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: specific name to. So basically, John can be used to

988
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: replace absolutely any now anyone at all in its singular

989
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: or plural form. As an example, I might say, what

990
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: was that top order John? Mikey was thrown over at

991
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: FDR Park for them largemouth John? Or upon seeing a

992
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: giant flathead catfish swimming along the bank of the School River,

993
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: I might say, Yo, that's the biggest John I ever

994
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: seen in here, followed by yo, I'm retiring my John

995
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: with fifty pound because that thirty pound John ain't gonna

996
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: be strong enough of a hook that John. Interestingly, John

997
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: can be pluralized with or without an S. Saying let

998
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: me get one of them John's when asking a buddy

999
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: for a fresh mintow out of the bucket is acceptable,

1000
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: but more commonly, John is used to refer to multiple

1001
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: things minus the S. As an example, when asking a

1002
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: friend where he acquired multiple new striper plugs, you'd say,

1003
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: where'd you get them? John? You might also say I

1004
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: want to get into fly fishing, but there's so much

1005
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: John to buy. Theories abound about John and where it

1006
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: came from. In fact, John is such an intriguing word,

1007
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: be as it can be used in so many ways

1008
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: that linguists have spent years studying this John and tracing

1009
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: its origins. All signs point to John being a derivative

1010
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: of joint. Joint as a slang term rosen popularity in

1011
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: the American South around the time of emancipation, bars and

1012
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: clubs that served as safe havens for black Americans were

1013
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: called juke joints. This eventually expanded into the labeling of

1014
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: somewhat sketchy places as joints, which, even further down the

1015
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: line translated to any place you considered kind of underground,

1016
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: such as that little pizza joint or burger joint you

1017
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: think only you and your boys know about. Even though

1018
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: that John is all over yelp, but some smart John believed.

1019
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: John was born in Philly in n one. Specifically, that year,

1020
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: hip hop group Funky four plus one had a popular

1021
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: song called That's the Joint, and it was one of

1022
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: the earliest recorded hip hop tracks where the word joint

1023
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: was used as a positive term to refer to something

1024
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: good or something that you like. Linguists say because the

1025
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: singers slightly drew out the vows in the word joint

1026
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: and didn't accentuate the tea, Philadelphians either heard it as

1027
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: John or sang it as John, ultimately solidifying the future

1028
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: of that John. Take a listen what we just care

1029
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: miss just can't miss West like this joint? Did you

1030
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: hear it? Let's listen one more time. Whether you heard

1031
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: joint or John, the mere mention of this song being

1032
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: the origin of John infuriates many Philadelphians. Why because Funky

1033
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: four plus one was from the Bronx, and even though

1034
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: most linguists agreed John technically came from Joint, which got

1035
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: popularized as a catch all in New York hip hop culture.

1036
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Philly people just don't want to hear that John. That

1037
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: John means too much to them. Now, if you're one

1038
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: of them John that gets all mad about John coming

1039
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: from them York John, here's what I suggest. Head out

1040
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: to the garage and grab your John and head down

1041
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: to that John where you called all them John last season,

1042
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: cast out alive John under a bobber. Maybe throw one

1043
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: of them Panther and Martin John's and just relax. You

1044
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: got other John to worry about. No matter where that

1045
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: John came from, it's a Philly John now. So right

1046
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: after that episode dropped right, And I always love that

1047
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: that John Weekly word too because it had such a

1048
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: great musical tie. And we've always been about like incorporating

1049
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: music where possible. But you hit me up. You hadn't

1050
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: even been working here that long and you texted me

1051
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: and what did you say? Did you find the text? Yeah? Okay,

1052
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: so it was in reference to the promo that you used, uh,

1053
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: And it was it was an Instagram post where it

1054
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: read why have I never heard of this John? Bent

1055
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Listener Ensley nine one alerted me to this John after

1056
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: taking this picture in his local fly shop John. Are

1057
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: these John's no good? Have these John's not caught on?

1058
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't tie many hollow John's, So maybe that's why

1059
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: I missed this John. But Box endorsed this John and

1060
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: he is the man for them strikeing and talking about

1061
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. Okay, you're talking about an Instagram post. Yeah,

1062
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: well that this is This is where I got hung

1063
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: up with because I said, okay, I we had had

1064
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: a prior conversation, but via this text thread, all I

1065
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: can find is that I have issue with your use

1066
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: of like double nouning. And here's the example of what

1067
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: I recall is you said that John cannot be pluralized

1068
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: like nobody says it can be. It can be pluralized

1069
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: if you read a very good article on the internet

1070
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: that said otherwise. That's where I pulled that from it

1071
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: actual I've heard John can be broken up by region

1072
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: of Philly like people in South. But my problems, my

1073
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: problem was, my problem was as illustrated in this post.

1074
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: You said fly shop John's, and what I said is

1075
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: that's like the equivalent of saying fly shops up shop shop. Yeah,

1076
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: it would be like you know if if you were

1077
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: if you were asking me, um, where to go, uh

1078
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: like use tackle shops? Right, if you were asking me, like, hey,

1079
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: where do I go buy plugs? Oh, just go to

1080
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: Tackle John. It's like down on like ninth, or like

1081
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: a Burger John. Yeah, or go to like yeah, go

1082
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: to the Burger John. It's it's you know, like so

1083
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: it should have just been fly John's without shop right right,

1084
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: it should have been like, oh, yeah, go go, I

1085
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: will scroll back and I will I will, I will

1086
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: correct the post anyway weekly where it was one of

1087
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: those deals where they were they were tough to come

1088
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: up with, like that was the ball was in our

1089
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: court to figure out those words. But I mean, we

1090
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 1: we have to talk about how much we gleaned from listeners,

1091
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: Like so much of this show ran on listener contributions.

1092
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: And I always love that because I always looked at

1093
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: it like if we have a little outlet here to

1094
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: uh let the people speak, you know what I mean?

1095
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I mean, look that's my bar and awkward

1096
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: photos were two of my favorite things. Ever. We're not

1097
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: playing either of those, uh in the greatest hits, But um,

1098
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: I always had so much fun doing those and people

1099
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: really love That's my Bar. I always had a dream

1100
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: of compiling those and sending awards like you're a band,

1101
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: That's my Bar. That would have been good. The man,

1102
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I loved that That's My Bars. And one thing that

1103
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: I really admired about that was it put the onus

1104
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: on the listener to like really know a place. And

1105
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: in fact, actually in the first I think in the

1106
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: first episode that I hosted, I did it that It's

1107
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: my Bar. And I'll tell you what, It's not a

1108
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: small task. You gotta know some history. You need to

1109
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: be familiar equating. It was similar writing you guys got

1110
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: for those That's my Bar submissions were people it was publishable,

1111
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: like if some of them were outstanding, you know, if

1112
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: you were making a degenerate Michelin guide for bars, that's

1113
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: something to aspire to you later, I guess. But we

1114
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: we've always appreciated the submissions for those, but more so man,

1115
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest, Like when we first pitched

1116
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: sale Bin, it wasn't There were some people who thought

1117
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 1: that was not gonna work out, but that was one

1118
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: of the most responded to segments on this I will say, yeah,

1119
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: that that is probably if we're like breaking down all

1120
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: of the segments, um other than like makers or I

1121
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: actually a really soft spot for night fishing, But either

1122
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 1: of those two segments like that was my favorite for sure.

1123
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: It was it was always funny, It was always in

1124
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: good humor. You always led to like some good fishing conversation,

1125
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: and I always felt like I've learned something even though

1126
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: I kind of wasn't supposed to write. Well, there there's

1127
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: definitely a ringer there like that, just like Mandy York

1128
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: and you guys know which one that is. But I'm curious, man, like,

1129
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: any any standouts for you guys besides the one we're

1130
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: about to hit here. Well, I mean the what was

1131
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: the tuggy? Was that? And this was that? The Tuggy

1132
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: made of you. I'm so glad you brought up the

1133
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Tuggy because now I can say, while I, while I

1134
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: love and appreciate it all, just stop sending me Tuggies

1135
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: like I like I if I printed all the texts

1136
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: and messages with the motorized Tuggy, I could wallpaper my

1137
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: entire house like We're We're good. I will always be

1138
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: a Tuggy fan. I always love a Tuggy. But you

1139
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: could stop sending me tuggies. Um, but the one we're

1140
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: gonna play here is actually fairly recent and it's the

1141
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: only time in sale bin history that an extra step

1142
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: was taken to make the segment extra special, and it is,

1143
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the most responded to sale bin we

1144
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: have ever done. Why did you put the hand to pay?

1145
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm getting? Man, You didn't have

1146
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: to be so hurtful with me so angry. Today we've

1147
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: got what I've at least decided is the perfect Halloween

1148
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: sale bin item because it's very trigger treat right. Could

1149
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: be good, could be ship, don't know. But thanks to

1150
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: several listeners that sent this one along. Um, there are

1151
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: too many of you to name, but at least ten

1152
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: of you fired this one off, and I thank you

1153
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: for it, but very quickly before I dive into this

1154
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: particular item. Um, since this is Hayden's first sale bin,

1155
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: I always like to know, like where where everyone stands

1156
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: on the online buying of other people's wears? Are you

1157
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: an online classified shopper? Do you look for things on

1158
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: Facebook and Craigslist and such? Yeah, your boy's been known

1159
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: to be a little bit thrifty, like that you know,

1160
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: what do you buy? What do you like? What do

1161
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 1: you use it for? Dude? All sorts of gear? Man Um. Yeah,

1162
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: I've bought a bunch of guitarists from a website called Reverb,

1163
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: but like, I also buy a lot of my waterfowl

1164
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: decoys from like piste Off X Wives and girl Runds.

1165
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, full body decoys are expensive, man, in the

1166
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: best sale I've ever found is when you know you've

1167
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: got like a Spern lover swinging the auction gavel, you

1168
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I do know, dude, I do know,

1169
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: And like those posts are so rare and you've got

1170
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: to be quick on it. But you see hi every

1171
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: once in a while on Craig's List, it's like every

1172
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: piece of fish tackle and fish poles and my condo

1173
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: needs to be gone tomorrow, call Holly and you know

1174
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, I need to get there tomorrow

1175
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: before he gets back from work. You know, I'm about

1176
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: that a way better day than this guy's about that

1177
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Oh man. So anyway, so here's what we have.

1178
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm glad you're an online classified person that

1179
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: makes this more fun. So so here's what we have. Okay,

1180
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: the title of this post, and now, mind you, I'm

1181
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: betting that even more people have seen this post than Senate.

1182
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: It's it's out there in all kinds of different Facebook forums.

1183
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: The title is secret jigs I use at Missouri trout Parks.

1184
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: And the photo is just a shot of a railing

1185
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: surrounding a low head dam and you see a lone

1186
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: angler waiting just above the damn. And I'm just surmising here, really,

1187
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it was probably taking

1188
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: at a Missouri trout park, would be my guess. I

1189
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: would say that's probably a fair assumption. Trout parks, I feel,

1190
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: are a very interesting cultural phenomenon and totally and I

1191
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: think that what's interesting about him is there are some

1192
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: folks that are like very dedicated to visiting. That's just

1193
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: what they do. And and honestly, like, you know, I'm

1194
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: sure it breeds a certain level of skill just because

1195
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: like the ability to rapidly a b test a bunch

1196
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: of different stuff over fish that you know, you know

1197
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: are seeing it, well, dude, And there's there's some truth

1198
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: to that. It's like, on one hand, you step back

1199
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, trout park, that's lame. I would never

1200
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: do that. But if you're into that, these places tend

1201
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: to have their ringers, Like, ah, that's old Bill over there.

1202
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: He gets them every time, you know what I mean.

1203
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like a jockeying for position at

1204
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: some of these trout parks. I would I would bet. Yeah.

1205
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: My my experience of trout parks overall is very limited.

1206
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: But I will tell you a quick story about one.

1207
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: And this is actually this is a story I told

1208
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: him my grandfather's funeral. The U I'm coming in with

1209
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: him today, man, I'm ready. Uh. So, when I was

1210
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: a kid, uh, one of my first trout fishing excursions

1211
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: was at one of these trout parks, and this one

1212
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: in particular was like a kind of catch and keep

1213
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: pay to play, right right right? Um, I'm about four

1214
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: years old or something, and I managed to catch a fish,

1215
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: and you know, my dad puts him in the ten

1216
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: gallon bucket and kind of I am now no longer

1217
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: interested in fishing. I'm interested in watching this one particular

1218
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: fish kind of swim around. So a couple of hours

1219
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: go by and we're leaving the trout park and we

1220
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: passed the you know, the shed with a teenager and

1221
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: the filat knife, and uh, the guy kind of looks

1222
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: at me as I'm leaving, me goes, hey, uh, do

1223
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: you want your fish cleaned? And me, being four, I'm like, yeah,

1224
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: I I would like a shiny clean fish. Oh no,

1225
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: I'll poor little you into the bucket, slaps on the

1226
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: cutting board and I'm thinking that's a weird way to

1227
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: clean a fish. I feel like, I feel like it's

1228
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: probably not sleuper good for it. And he just eviscerates

1229
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: this fish in front of me. And I cried all

1230
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: the way home. And you've never been back to a

1231
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:55,959
Speaker 1: trout park since. Oh man, that's sad, but's so funny. Uh. Anyway, anyway,

1232
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: story time over. So these secret jigs, right, these these

1233
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: secret jigs, they'll cost you ten dollars and four ten

1234
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: dollars you get ten so a buck of jig, which

1235
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: isn't terrible, right, that's a lot cheaper than dry flies,

1236
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: a lot cheaper than dry flies. Three fifty most places.

1237
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Now for one blue wing olive cast you three fifty, right,

1238
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: not even tired? Good? Yeah exactly. But anyhow, man, uh,

1239
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: I would say that these one dollar jigs are not

1240
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: only a good price, but a steal for what they

1241
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: are and what they are. Lightning in a bottle. Man,

1242
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to read the listeners the description of the

1243
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: jigs in question. So ten for ten my secret jig

1244
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: that I catch thirty to fifty trout a day, no

1245
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: picture to keep it secret. I guarantee you will catch

1246
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: your limit daily. I have used this jig for forty

1247
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: eight years. Will also throw in a detailed diagram of

1248
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: how to use it, phone number hidden four forty eight years.

1249
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of odd, why not just say fifty or

1250
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: forty five? Like that's very specific? Hey, you want to

1251
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: know that he's an honest dude and these so he

1252
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: can't be exaggerating, right, But so I got to say right.

1253
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: In a way, it's kind of genius marketing. It's like

1254
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: the grown up version of the surprise eggs. All the

1255
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: little kids are are are into right, and much cheaper.

1256
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: I might add caause I know from experience. It's like,

1257
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, you give me ten bucks and trust me,

1258
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good. Like you're gonna like like this.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of secret recipes that people go

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01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: to great lengths to keep that way, dude, A hundred percent.

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01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: But this is like a wink and a nod you've

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: put out on the entire internet. I'm surprised he didn't

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01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: put it on the dark Web. So he's trying to

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: keep it secret, and then he assumes the buyer will

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: keep it secret. But you know, at some point some

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: asshole is going to spill the beans. And that asshole

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01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: is me, because I have purchased these Oh you didn't,

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: I did. I'm holding the package here and I have

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01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: not opened it, and it's been killing me for over

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: a week. I have been saving this for this moment.

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: On this sale beIN right here. It's gonna be the

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: first ever unboxing on this podcast. I gotta say, like,

1273
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: I just did this through Facebook, and not to be rude,

1274
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: but like, you're not giving your credit card to like

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 1: a business. You're dealing with some rando dude. That fish

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01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: is Missouri trout Parks. So I'm still convinced somehow this

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: will result in like my bank account being drained or

1278
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: my interview man, well, yeah I use PayPal, Okay, smart guy,

1279
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: but still I'm like from Jersey and trust nobody. You

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You do? Yeah, yeah, but but

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: it's it's all worth it to amuse the ben audience.

1282
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing this because I want you all to catch

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: more fish, God damn it. Like I want you to

1284
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: have all the manages. On the other hand, I want

1285
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: you to know if you're getting scammed. I believe it's

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: worth ten bucks of my heart earned money to let

1287
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: you know this. I'm not even gonna expense this, dude,

1288
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna make meat eatter pay for what

1289
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: very well could be a mistake. This is This is

1290
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on you too, because this could

1291
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: be a cloud of anthrax. Like you're watching me on

1292
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 1: the computer right now, like that, I'm very happy I'm watching.

1293
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: You're safe out there in Montana. It could be a

1294
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: mail bomb, although it's very light. It would be the

1295
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: most sophisticated mail bomb ever. But I'm actually listening. It's

1296
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: by scissors. I have sat on this for a week,

1297
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: and this is it. Phil. You need to put a

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: drum roll over this. I am cutting the envelope right

1299
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: now and together we're gonna see about these secret jigs.

1300
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: Look that they're all wrapped up in weird paper. These

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01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: are gonna be good. Uh, oh my god. It's just

1302
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: a scam. Oh no, that's the diagram. Oh my god, dude,

1303
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. Hope, you've got to

1304
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: be kidding me. I'm gonna see. I'm hold this so

1305
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: you can see it. It is literally a tiny bag.

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01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Can you even see that? Of like, it's it's perdagons

1307
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: in all white. It is literally just a jig style

1308
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: hook gold with an itty bitty head that looks like

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: a nymph head painted white, and then he has just

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: wrapped white thread behind it and tapered it. That is it.

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: That is all that it is. I was expecting like

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: bucktail or just I was expecting it to be like

1313
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: some forty eight years dude, this should have been some

1314
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: precursor to the trout magnet or something. These All it

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01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: looks like is a euronymph with an upturned eye. It's

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: just a white thread. What what. Let's let's look at

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: the details. Let's look at the detailed diagram. It's going

1318
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: to tell you to tip it with something. And I

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: read the damn guy's advice for catching trout at Bennett

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: Springs State Park. If you fish Bennett Spring State Park,

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: this is your lucky day, um man. How to set

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: up fly rod or spinning rod for this jig Number one,

1323
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: always use two pound test line or less. What's less

1324
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: than two pound test line? UM eight x tipp it.

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know. Does he have

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: Does he have some secret line that he also sells

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01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: with these secret jigs? No, man, Always try and fish

1328
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: about six inches from bottom. Always make sure there isn't

1329
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: any moss on the jig parentheses. Very important. Use an

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: adjustable cork when using a spinning rod. Make sure you

1331
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: keep the line tight. Tie jig on leader between six

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: and eight inches above that and put number six split

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: shot adjust cork accordingly. Best place to fish, dude, Best

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: place to fish this jig at Bennett Spring number one

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: on the damn number two, all four corners of the

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01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: damn up lower. I'm seeing a damn theme here. Not

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: many people think to fish the damn Oh my god, dude.

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01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: This is number three, all the handicapped spots number like

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01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: jigsie selling away points. Number four feeder stream outlet, number

1340
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: five feeder stream from hatchery outlet to stream. This is

1341
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna look. I

1342
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: just gonna say I have no doubt these will catch fish,

1343
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: Like these are like stock trout at a trout park.

1344
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: Why not? It just looks like a little white maggot

1345
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: or something. This is well, I mean, yeah, sure, sure,

1346
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm mean, like, you know, like it's like what you know,

1347
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: Waltz worm looks like nothing too. I think it's funny that,

1348
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: like it's so fish park, not fish parks in general,

1349
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: but fish park singular specific. And I do like that

1350
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: if you took anybody to survey this body of water

1351
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: and you were like, where do you think you catch

1352
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: some fish? They would point to all this dude's secret

1353
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: spots immediately. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not

1354
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: mad at dude. They're definitely heavier. I think these are lead,

1355
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: Like these aren't like a tungsten head or traditional nimp.

1356
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: I actually think these are itty bitty lead jigheads. But

1357
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: it's just so funny to me. I mean, there's not

1358
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: even a piece of flash in him. Not it is

1359
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: literally just white thread. That's always think, what do you

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: think the likelihood is that we have a listener that

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: is in like reasonable proximity of this fish park. If

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: you are hit me up, it also bothers me because

1363
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,879
Speaker 1: what I think about it. This man has my address,

1364
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: so he could now send me an trax or a

1365
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: letter bomb for divulging the greatest secret in all of

1366
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: fishing on this podcast. I don't get the feeling that

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: this dude is super tech s happy. Man. I think

1368
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be all right anyway, there you go. You know,

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: some of you who who sent that I hinted, I

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: was like, look, I can't do this without knowing. You

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01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: can't lay this on people without being able to say,

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: this is what it is. So that is it. That

1373
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: is the secret to stock trout everywhere. A tiny lead

1374
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: jighead painted white with some white thread rap behind it.

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01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: That was really fun. Man. That was like, that might

1376
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 1: be my all time favorite sale bin right there. Naturally,

1377
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put the pictures of these things

1378
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: on Instagram so you can all see it on Instagram

1379
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: and and and copy and tie these um if if

1380
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: you if you want any more secrets revealed, you find

1381
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: something on your favorite classified online forum, do please keep

1382
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: sending those links to me at bent at the metator

1383
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: dot com if you would, if you would love us

1384
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: to trash the things you find here on the sale bin.

1385
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 1: So to this day, people are still sending me pictures

1386
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: of those similar jigs in fly shops and they're like

1387
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: a bucket piece. They're like you got ripped off as hell, bro,

1388
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: Like there was nothing secret about any of that. They're

1389
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: in every fly shop down here in the Ozarks, and um,

1390
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. Yeah, well, I mean you are an idiot.

1391
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: But the man I've I went into that with like

1392
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: number one, I genuinely had no idea, genuinely had no

1393
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: idea that that was what was about to go down.

1394
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: I also, I was a little worried because I was like, man,

1395
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: if these are like a secret jig, this new is

1396
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna be real upset. So once we got the emails

1397
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: that alleviated that concern saying that, oh, these are everywhere,

1398
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: I felt one, I felt a lot better about up

1399
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: with two. Man. That was just funny. Yeah, that was

1400
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 1: that was That was the most fun Saleman that we've

1401
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: ever done. And then funny side story, the pack of

1402
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: jigs was so light and I had it in the envelope.

1403
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: They came in here on my desk and I had

1404
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: to mail something to my buddy Jim fee At on

1405
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: the water and I grabbed the envelope and shook it

1406
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, it's an empty envelope and stuck

1407
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: the thing in there. And I I mailed all the

1408
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: jigs to Jim. So when he sent me a text

1409
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 1: confirming the thing that I sent him, he's like, and

1410
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: these are gonna catch um the what are they called

1411
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: golden shiners? He catches golden shiners to use for bass

1412
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: where he's at. He's like, oh, and thanks for these.

1413
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: These are gonna crush golden shiners. I'm like, did you

1414
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: get those? Wait? What? And I'm like, son of a bitch,

1415
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: I sent Jim all the secret jigs. But that's okay,

1416
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Um? That was That was

1417
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: a really fun way to cover a law. Of course,

1418
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: we've we've had the end of the line segment um

1419
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: running the entire time here now for me, Um, that

1420
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: one was a little trying because you talk about having

1421
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: to do some research, like you're talking about how the

1422
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: bar ours they it had to be right, and we

1423
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: were always trying to balance like a personal connection to

1424
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: a lore with some history. Um, dude, I loved it.

1425
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: I drove myself nuts with that Swiss swing one. Really.

1426
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, dude, I so again, you know

1427
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these end of the line, but I

1428
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: did most of the research that is not true at all.

1429
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: A lot of these like end of the line things, right,

1430
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: are born of a personal connection. And you know, um,

1431
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: there are certain elements of there's certain lures that just

1432
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: like kind of exist in your pantheon of what you

1433
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: created you as a fisherman, like you know, these like

1434
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: pillars that bought you up and got you into it,

1435
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: and like the things that you use and the things

1436
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: you relied on while you were figuring out fishing and

1437
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: what fishing meant to you. And because of that, a

1438
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: lot of times you'd overblow that personal connection in your

1439
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: own mind and be like, oh, this must be um,

1440
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: this must be an experience had across the board. And

1441
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: I fell into that with the Swiss swing. Turns out

1442
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: nobody else uses that except for like five people in

1443
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: like the right side of Pennsylvania, right. You know, Well,

1444
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, of of of all the end

1445
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: of the lines, I had a lot of fun doing,

1446
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: though some of them were really good. But we were

1447
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: going to close out today at the end of the line,

1448
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: because that is traditionally what has ended the show, and

1449
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run one of yours, because I know you

1450
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: haven't done as many, but the very first one you

1451
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: did on trout beads, I swear more people wrote in

1452
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: about that than any other end of the line we

1453
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: had done. And and my my prediction, the reason I

1454
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: think that happened was you took a very simple thing

1455
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: that a lot of people know about and a lot

1456
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,520
Speaker 1: of people scoff at there, like, oh, trout beads, that's dirty.

1457
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: And you did such a good job of explaining why

1458
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: here's this thing that everybody looks at is like a cheat,

1459
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: like a dirty cheat, and like this you know, fish

1460
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: mauling lore, and explain why that's actually not the case.

1461
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: And I really think there were a lot of people

1462
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: who saw this simple thing with with new eyes. After

1463
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: this end of the line, Well, that's not loud enough.

1464
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: If you're like of other fishermen, particularly fly fishermen, Alaska

1465
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: is somewhere on your bucket list. If you ask an

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01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: angler what they think of when they envision Alaska, you'll

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01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: find a lot of the same images and species repeating.

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Salmon runs so dense you could walk across the river

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: on the backs of silvers and kings you know, Dolly Varden,

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: longer than your arm, and painted up like clowns and

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01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: their full spawning regalia, steelhead of mythical proportions and their

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01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: resident rainbow counterparts. Back flipping and cartwheeling out of the river,

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: and sore shoulders from spending all days swinging flies, catching

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01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: fish after fish, and experiencing arguably the greatest cold water

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 1: fishing the world has to offer. There's a little bit

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01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,520
Speaker 1: of an open secret in these rivers, almost as omnipresident

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01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: as the fish we target, and it's as effective as

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01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: it is divisive. My friends, that secret is the trout bead. Now,

1479
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: before we wade into the controversy surrounding the fishing of beads,

1480
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about the beads themselves. For the uninitiated, a

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01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: trout beat is a small spherical bead pegged with a

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01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: toothpick about two inches above a bear hook. Beads can

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: be fished on any riggs, spin, centerpin or fly. At

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01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: first glance, a bead is pretty cut and dry. I

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01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: mean it's literally just around beads, similar to the thousands

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01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: of beads you'd find at the hobby lobby in fact,

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01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure some anglers by beads at the hobby lobby

1488
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,839
Speaker 1: because there is an entire subculture dedicated to bead fishing

1489
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: that is as fanatical about colors, weight, sizes, and hues

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01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: as dry fly fishermen are trying to pick out that

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: perfect shade of done for their quill. Gordon's All beads

1492
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: are not created equal, however, and anglers are fiercely devoted

1493
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: to their preferences glass versus plastic, peach verse orange, six

1494
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,520
Speaker 1: millimeter or eight millimeter bead specific companies have made fortunes

1495
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: selling beads crafted with jealously guarded secret formulas for just

1496
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: the right color, sheen, and molting. You'll find grown men

1497
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: hoarding nail polish like teenage girls, scoturing pharmacies and makeup

1498
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: counters in their free time, looking for that perfect shade

1499
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: of red, pink, orange, or even blue for the all

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: important blood dot. Now onto the controversy. We're not going

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: to dive into whether or not it's fly fishing us

1502
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: between you, the fish, and a higher power. The real

1503
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: controversy is how the fish is hooked. To understand this,

1504
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: we first need to understand how a bead rig works

1505
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, a bead rig is a bear hook

1506
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: with a bead pegged about two inches up the leader.

1507
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: When the fish bites the bead, the angler sets the hook,

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: and that hook, which is dangling outside the fish's mouth,

1509
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: is pulled into the outside corner of their jaw. Here's

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: why that's controversial. Many people see the placement of that

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01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: hook set outside the mouth and immediately equate that is

1512
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: evidence that this is no more than a legal means

1513
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: to floss or snag fish. Go ahead and search is

1514
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: bead fishing ethical on Google and you'll find forums filled

1515
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: with heated eight page arguments between anglers debating the issue.

1516
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: I would argue that bead fishing is not floss ng

1517
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: or snagging for one simple reason, the fish has to

1518
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: voluntarily bite the bead in order to hook themselves. From

1519
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: my perspective, that alone settles the debate. Sporting ethics society,

1520
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: you'll often hear folks argue that beads are somehow damaging

1521
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: to the fish. Beads are deadly effective. But if there's

1522
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: one thing they're not, it's deadly. If you're into fish

1523
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: and catch and release, beads could very well be the

1524
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: most ethical tool at your disposal. Because the bead is

1525
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: pegged a few inches above the hook, the fish can

1526
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: inhale it without the danger of being hooked deeply. The

1527
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: hook set pulls the hook into the outside corner of

1528
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: its mouth, not into its gullet. Not only does this

1529
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: save the fish from having its gills ripped apart by

1530
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: a deeply taken yet apparently more ethical, glob bug, it

1531
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: also saves a fish from the difficult hook removals that

1532
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: often come with a deep take. In fisheries where significant

1533
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,959
Speaker 1: cold is a factor, like Great Lakes steelhead fisheries, for instance,

1534
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: this can save a fish from flash frozen gills. It's

1535
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: simply easier to remove a hook from the outside corner

1536
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: of a steelhead's mouth without taking it out of the water.

1537
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Now you might be thinking to yourself that I'm some

1538
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: sort of bead fishing evangelists. You may be surprised to

1539
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: know that I've only ever fished beads a handful of times. Unfortunately,

1540
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm cursed with a bug for tieing bugs and plagued

1541
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: by the compulsion to use them. That said, I fished

1542
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: with many many centerpin spin and fly anglers who all

1543
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: use beads I've netted well over a hundred bead caught

1544
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: steel head, and in all that time, there are two

1545
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: things that I've seen, very very rarely, a deeply hooked

1546
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: fish or if fish hooked more than an inch or

1547
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: two from its mouth. Sorry, fly guys, I'll be the

1548
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: first to admit that I've pulled a lot of pheasant

1549
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: tales and soccer spawn from peck fins. H Yes, the

1550
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: bad debate, whether or not we all agree one day

1551
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. But as long as there are

1552
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: people catching fish, they're going to be folks complaining about

1553
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: how they're going about it. Are you a big guy

1554
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: feverishly painting until the wee hours of the morning while

1555
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: you gear up for your next steelhead trip? Are you

1556
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 1: a fly fishing purist who thinks of beats for the

1557
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: undoing of everything a sportsman stands for. Whatever your position,

1558
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: be sure to drop us a note at bent at

1559
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the Meat eater dot Com, letting us know where you

1560
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: stand on the bat debate, and if, perhaps for the

1561
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: first time, a beat ends up at the end of

1562
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: your line. Yeah, man, you know I don't to be

1563
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: truthful with you like we do. Such a volume of

1564
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: writing for this show that a lot of times it's

1565
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: hard to remember what you wrote. Um. An example is

1566
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: like when I first signed on to do this and

1567
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: was doing these fish news segments, one of my first thoughts, Oh,

1568
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. I'm gonna have like so

1569
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: much conservation knowledge like floating around in my head. I'm

1570
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna be able to speak to so many things. I

1571
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: don't remember the story I wrote last week, but that's

1572
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: what happens, man. Yeah, but with with this one in particular. Yeah,

1573
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: I've always thought, you know, if you are focused on

1574
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: the art form of fishing, I can understand your objection

1575
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: to a bead. It's a utilitarian tool. But a utilitarian

1576
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: tool outside of a philosophical sort of take on it

1577
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:44,520
Speaker 1: is not necessarily something bad. It's not something that deserves

1578
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, a ship reputation is something that non anglers do.

1579
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 1: It's something that different anglers do. Man, it's like somebody

1580
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: who really appreciates um, you know, uh right, like abstract

1581
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: guitar playing. You know, I'll a Hendrix or somebody like that.

1582
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna, you know, ship on people

1583
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: playing shred metal just because it's not what I like.

1584
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 1: It's just a different take on like a thing and

1585
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not bad, you know it just

1586
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: it just is a different thing and you don't have

1587
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 1: to love it, but you don't have to bash it. Hey, dude,

1588
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: that you have basically summed up. Now that we've we've

1589
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: we've closed out here our final final segment, you're gonna

1590
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: hear that end of the line. But what you just said, man,

1591
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean, from from beginning to end, that is what

1592
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Ben is about. Right, we are about. We don't we

1593
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 1: don't give a damn how you fish. We don't care

1594
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: what your faction is. Welcome here, Yeah, unless your Walleye

1595
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: fish somewhere else. Yeah, uh, Phil likes Walleyes, I think, um,

1596
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: but listen from the from the bottom of my heart,

1597
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: this has been fun. I can't thank both of you

1598
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: guys enough for working so hard with me on on

1599
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: bent Um. This has been one of the coolest things

1600
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: that I've ever done. I will always be that guy

1601
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: that's welcoming to all. You know. I love talking to

1602
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: eyes on social you know where to find me, um,

1603
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, and until we meet again, and we will eventually.

1604
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I also want to thank Miles, even though he's not

1605
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: sitting here with us today. Um. A lot has gone

1606
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: into this and it has been an absolute blast, and

1607
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed being part of it as

1608
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: much as I did. I mean, dude, Bent was a

1609
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: was a community. Man. It still is a community. Well yeah,

1610
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: it's still is a community. The archive will always be there,

1611
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: but um yeah, I'm just so thankful to uh to

1612
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: participated in it. And what I'm proud of most I

1613
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: think isn't even the work, or like the writing or

1614
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: were the podcast itself. Man, you know, and I think

1615
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 1: you'd agree with this. It's the connection that we made

1616
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: with our listeners and and giving them kind of Ah.

1617
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 1: That's what drives everything I do. Man. That's what I'm about,

1618
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: is is using these platforms to link up with good people.

1619
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: I linked up with you guys. Phil. Are you still here?

1620
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm right here. Yeah. For the great those of you

1621
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: who don't know I am, I am off camera and

1622
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Joe can't see me. For all he knows if I've

1623
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: left and gone to take a ship. Phil, Phil, we

1624
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: should cut right there. The last thing you would hear

1625
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: is Phil talking about going to take a ship. Uh.

1626
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: You boys are legends, listen. I want to thank Meat

1627
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Eather too for giving me the opportunity and us the

1628
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 1: opportunity to make this fishing podcast. I look very forward

1629
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: to seeing what the fishing landscape looks like here down

1630
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: the road. And until I see you guys somewhere out

1631
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: there again, I'm just gonna close by saying, tight lines,

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01:31:44,800 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: degenerates leader, Lets look at