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We are packs postseason baseball, 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: crazy Monday night football outcome. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: We're live, We're in LA. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, and however you 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: may be listening or watching. Thanks for choosing whatever platform 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: you're on. Jmact. Part of what we do, part of 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: what a lot of people do, is being able to 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: see the truth before the truth comes out. You know, 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: you want to buy a stock. You don't want to 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: buy it when it's gone up. You want to buy 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: it right before. And so I start my show today 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: as the Jags beat the Kansas City Chiefs last night, 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you all a heads up 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: in one hour from now, I am not putting the 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Jags four and one, Jags in the hurt hierarchy, and 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm putting Kansas City in it. Jacksonville's a ridiculous winning team. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: I told the staff this morning. The Jaguars are a 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: David Lynch film. Even the ones I like make me uncomfortable. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: They're just ridiculous. I mean, Kansas City averaged seven point 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: six yards of play before last night. A team that 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: averaged seven point five yards of play had won thirty 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: three straight games. I don't care what the final outcome was, 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: yards yards per play, first down, rushing, red zone. Kansas 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: City's a better team. Patrick Mahomes did not see Devin 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Lloyd on a pick six. He didn't see him. Tom 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Brady had pick sixes won in a Super Bowl. It 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: happens he did not see him, and the Jags deserve credit. 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Lloyd's a very good player right now. I mean they 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: they leave the NFL in interceptions. I don't think it's sustainable, 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: but that's a great play. But I was impressed with 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a team that lost. Kansas City. Keep your eyes open 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: for Brishard Smith, that late round receiver kid from Miami, 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: number twenty four. Keep your eye on him. Mahomes hit 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: eight different receivers. Mahomes athletically in the best shape he's 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: been in. He looked great. I'm telling you, Kansas City's coming, 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: and they're coming fast. And the Jaguars, I mean, they're ridiculous. 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: They get to the one yard line and they fumble 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: and then later Hey, the final play of the game, 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: a guy I love, Trevor Lawrence has fallen all over 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: the place, tripping over his left guard. This is not sustainable, 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: It's nonsense. I mean, they leave the NFL in takeaways. 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: A linebacker leads the NFL interc not sustainable. Brian Thomas, 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver. I don't know what's going on there. He's 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: in a weird slump. They're head coach twice has had 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: to apologize. They don't feel buttoned up, but they've got talent. 53 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Travis Hunter two. I've always loved Trevor Lawrence. 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I feel like he's the indie band. I knew him 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: before you knew him. I saw him in high school 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: and loved him. I still love him. He turned the 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: ball over too much. But I look at Kansas City 58 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: and they made a lot of young guy mistakes. And 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: this is what happens when you pay Chris Jones a 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: ton and Mahomes a ton, and you pay Travis Kelsey 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: a ton. You get top heavy and you have to 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: have inexpensive labor. And they had thirteen penalties. I think 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: they had five special teams penalties. They're a very young team. 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is going to coach those mistakes out of them. 65 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Jacksonville doesn't make mistakes. Falling down on the final winning play, 66 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: that's just Jacksonville. Fumbling the ball at the one, that's 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: just Jacksonville. So I think you can co out the 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: thirteen penalties are most of them. I think Kansas City's 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: good and getting better now. They're losing one score games. 70 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Last year they were eleven to zero one score games, 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: but this year they were a little younger in spots 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: and they're making mistakes. And I mean the final play 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: of the game they had Trevor Lawrence trapped Jags out 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: of timeouts and they couldn't make the play, but they 75 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: averaged seven point six yards of play, had almost five 76 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: hundred yards. They had a bad pick six from Mahomes, 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: So congrats to Duval. I love Trevor Lawrence. I thought 78 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: his throw to Brian Thomas up the right sideline on 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: that final drive was one of the best throws of 80 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the year in the NFL. He's always had talent, fumbles 81 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: too much, makes too many mistakes, but he's a great kid. 82 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: I've met him a couple times. I'll always root for him. 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: But this morning, I feel Kansas City's a better team. 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: And I don't care what the score was. My herd 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: hierarchy is not standings. I can't put Jacksonville in. But 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: here is Trevor Lawrence out after I'll. 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: Just panic, sheer panic on the ground trying to we 88 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: don't have any timeouts, got stepped on coming out and 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta get up and I was 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: just gonna throw it out of balance to stop the clock, 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: and then there was really no one around me. 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: So when made a play. 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I'm I'm the best team doesn't 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: always win. And I also think there are things that 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: are sustainable. I mean, you can win Powerball that's not sustainable. 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Or you can invest in the market, pay off your house, 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: live below your means that's sustainable. Jacksonville's a wild crazy 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: David Lynch film, Blue Velvet, whatever, I don't care pick 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: your favorite, but I'm watching it and I'm like, yeah, 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't trust this team. I trust Kansas City. They 101 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: had a bad pick six and loss. But I trust 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: them and they're getting better. And that wide receiver group 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: when they get Rashi Rice back, watch out. They're still 104 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: not running the ball well enough, but watch out. Okay, 105 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: if you didn't watch any Dodger game, especially a Dodger 106 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: playoff game, you've never seen him play. 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: Last night was. 108 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: The perfect example of why they may or may not 109 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: win the World Series. It was all the brilliance in 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: athleticism and pitching and timely hitting, all these great players 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: and a god awful bullpen that almost lost in the game. 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: It was the perfect Dodger game as they beat the 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Phillies again on the road. Now they got three games 114 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: to win one. Let's start with Blake Snell. He was 115 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: great six innings, gave up only one hit, nine strikeouts, 116 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: a little wild, but Bryce Harper's a lefty, you know, 117 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber. 118 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: Is a lefty. 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Hey, you got to get these guys out. It was 120 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: an advantage and you had to take advantage of it. 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Snell was great, struck out. Bryce Harper got him on 122 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: a two on one out in the six inning and 123 00:06:52,960 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: got him out. Huge, huge crisis management for Blake Snell. 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: So let's start with there great pitching, and this is 125 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: what the Dodgers need. They need great starting pitching. They 126 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: got to push it late, they got to get to 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the sixth. They got to get to the seventh because 128 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: you don't trust the bullpen. And then later in the 129 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: sixth inning, Miguel Rojas, who's been around forever shortstop third base, 130 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: makes a great defensive play for the Dodgers. They had 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: several great defensive plays. He races to the bag. It 132 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: is a huge play with a couple of runners on 133 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: in the sixth it gets him out of the inning. 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: So you saw Blake Snell. Great pitching, tremendous defense. Then 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: we go to the top of the seventh and the 136 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers timely hitting. We've said before they've got to hit 137 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position. They've got to get leads 138 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: in games. Not one runner two, they need three and 139 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: four runnings. Will Smith a couple of RBIs there o. 140 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Tawny follows drives in another run, and here you go. 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: Dodgers now lead for nothing. Two nothing lead not good enough. 142 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: So now and as we discuss, the bullpen in the 143 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: playoffs has a nine er, so they're giving up a 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: run per inning. So now they're gonta lead, and this 145 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: is the classic Dodgers. You've seen great defense, you've seen 146 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: starting pitching, you've seen timely hitting. Here comes Blake, try 147 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: to well traveled old dude, uh for to one lead, 148 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: three hits, three batters. Suddenly it's four to three and 149 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: there's still nobody out. This is a classic Dodger game. 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: A white knuckler. So you see all the greatness and 151 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: then they go to the bullpen. Shocker, they can't close 152 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: the door. But then they have another great defensive play. 153 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: It's called the wheel play. They hadn't practiced. It's usually 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: a spring training play, and the Dodgers month set of 155 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Mookie pull it off at third base. 156 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: That could have been the game. Probably was the game. 157 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: So you've seen starting pitching, you've seen great defense, timely hitting, 158 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: more great defense, and that's what it took. They needed 159 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: three pay to get through the ninth inning. It was 160 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a classic Dodger game. Even the final out of the game, 161 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: you are holding your breath. The Dodgers are a flawed team, 162 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: but unlike the Yankees, they're not uneven. They can play 163 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: small ball, they can play great defense, they can run 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the bases, they can hit for power, they have great 165 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: starting pitching. 166 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: They're not the Yankees. 167 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: The Yankees depend too much on the home run, they 168 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: strike out too much, they don't do small ball, and 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: they don't love their bullpen. The Dodgers are flawed, but 170 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: they're not uneven. They can win a multitude a ways. 171 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: And last night was perfect. You saw all of the ways. 172 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: Timely hitting singles, not home runs, starting pitching, great defense, 173 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: the wheel play, and here's Dave Roberts. 174 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: After those guys executed it to perfection, it was a 175 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: lot tougher. They made it look a lot easier than 176 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: it was. And for me, that was our only chance 177 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 5: really to win that game in that moment. 178 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Again, if you'd never watched the Dodger game, that was 179 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: the one to watch because it perfectly encapsulated what they are. Brilliant, 180 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: the deepest roster, the best roster. And I know you're thinking, 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: for all that money, you shouldn't have flaws. No, they 182 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: were on display. 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: They are. 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the Dodger team could end up winning the 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: World Series and have more games where their fans literally 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: lost sleep as they win over one hundred games if 187 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: you count the playoffs, well over one hundred games potentially, 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: so it was a great night of sports. Cubs are 189 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: in big trouble Milwaukee and the Dodgers. I picked Milwaukee 190 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: to win the World Series. It looks like right now 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a Milwaukee and Dodger NLCS. And again, 192 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have more stars, but Milwaukee's got the better bullpen, 193 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's got some young star players. Milwaukee's a team without 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: a flaw. I mean Milwaukee last year, everybody thought they 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: had the best GM and the best manager in baseball, 196 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and the Mets stole one of them. The Cubs stole 197 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: another one and then they replaced them. Haven't missed beat. 198 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: So Milwaukee's just a really well owned, smartly run, brilliantly 199 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: managed baseball team that may not have the star power 200 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: outside of Milwaukee, but they don't do anything poorly. So 201 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: that could potentially be a great series. Jmack heard hierarchy 202 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: one hour from now. Nick Wright stops by a Rod's 203 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: on the show today as well. 204 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 6: You really said, Jacksonville's not never heard hierarchy. 205 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: Interesting, you tick down the Niners and the Chiefs have 206 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: them at eleven. They're not worthy. Are the Chiefs in 207 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: the top ten? Yep? Oh, dear, Oh, Mike, you know 208 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: I wore black today. 209 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: It's kind of Navy bluish because I want to celebrate 210 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 6: the Chief's funeral. 211 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: Season over if you. 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: Look at the schedule, con I'm not even kidding. Lions 213 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 6: this week at Lions teams good. I think you like 214 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 6: them a lot, and looking forward, they still got to 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 6: play the Broncos twice. Chargers is in December when they're 216 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: going to be healthy with Hampton back, and so. 217 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let me mention a few other games can 218 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: win Bills can't defend the run or the back. 219 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: In the Buffalo and meeting Josh Allen. 220 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: Okay, Dallas Houston beat up Chargers, Titans Raiders again, But. 221 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Did Dallas just tide Green Bay, who was. 222 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 6: Like number two in your herd hierarchy. I'll give you 223 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 6: the two ruins over the Raiders. I'll give you Tennessee. 224 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 6: Find me more wins the colt is that's not gonna 225 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: be easy. Culture very good. 226 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you this schedule looks like eight and 227 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: nine for the Chiefs. I don't see playoffs. 228 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: I know you think that they're gonna Oh they're Rashi Rice, 229 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 6: I mean, is he Jerry Rice is Jerry Rice and 230 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 6: Bro'm Jerry Rice joining the Chiefs. 231 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: I saw a great football team with a bad pick six. 232 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: It happens. I mean if they score. 233 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 6: There, keep that same energy when Brock Party throws a 234 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 6: pick six next week. 235 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: He's not momes. 236 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 237 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 238 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 239 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a fantasy 240 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: football podcast, I Want Your Flex. 241 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: That's right Dan. 242 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 8: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 243 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 8: the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sit starts 244 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 8: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 8: the competition. 246 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 7: Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and 247 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 7: meet Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and 248 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: wherever you get your podcasts. 249 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It is a Tuesday. Nick Wright 250 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Herd hierarchy forty minutes from now. Say right now, Jacks 251 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: aren't in it. They're eleven. So anytime a team starts 252 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: winning a bunch of championships could be duke basketball. The 253 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Patriots with Brady. It could be the Warriors. You heard 254 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: it a lot in Kansas City, the Meatheads, especially the 255 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: meatheads online. 256 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: It's got to be rigged. I mean, the league wants 257 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: them to win. 258 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the league really roots for small market Kansas City 259 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: to dominate. 260 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, sure. 261 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Second possession of the game, touchdown Mahomes of Travis Elsey. 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Flag thrown and on this play, everybody's yell it's a pack. 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: But Mahomes knew the rules because Andy Reid knows the rules, 264 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: and Mahomes was right. He didn't talk the ref out 265 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: of it. He said, hey, it's pass interference by either 266 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: team when any act by a player more than one 267 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: yard beyond the line of scrimmage has to be more 268 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: than one yard. Ball was at the two, Juju contacted 269 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: the defender at the one. Kansas City was right because 270 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Andy Reid knows the rules. Kobe Bryant spent his off 271 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: seasons every year rereading the rule book. Sean Payton knows 272 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: the rules. Remember when San Francisco and Kansas City met 273 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty eight and San Francisco players did 274 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: not know the overtime rules. Kansas City's did because Andy 275 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Reid's a stickler for that stuff, and that is constantly 276 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: in Patrick Mahomes' ear. The one thing you have to 277 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: say about Kansas City there were four for five in 278 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: the red zone last night. They're the best circumstance situational offense. 279 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: I think the Mahomes offense the best ever. Now you 280 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: could say Brady was with Edelman and Gronk, but you add, 281 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, you also add the mobility of Patrick Mahomes. 282 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: To me, Andy Reid, Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, it's the best 283 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: situational third and fourth down team. I don't want to 284 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: hear about the Eagles. They got a tush push. I'm 285 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: talking third and five, third and six, red zone. This 286 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: is what Kansas City does. And there are certain coaches 287 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: that just know the rule book. So this is not 288 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: about I know all you grifters online are freaking out, 289 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: just like you were with every Warriors call they got 290 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: in the finals. But this is what they do. They 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: were right, the players knew they were right. And by 292 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: the way, Andy Reid, I can guarantee you when he 293 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: created this play, I bet he'll text me. I guarantee 294 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: you they talked about this. I'm going to text him today. 295 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, Andy, I want you to text me. 296 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll text first. I guarantee you. When they drew up 297 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: this play, he said, listen, they may call a flag 298 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: on the play, but it's not illegal. 299 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: It is not illegal, So you know, you go. I know, 300 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: I know the league. 301 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: I always laugh at all these dynasties, like everybody is 302 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: rooting for Green Bay in the league office to be 303 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: good every year, the smallest North American market or Kansas City, 304 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: or they were rooting for New England and their crusty 305 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: coach Bill Belichick that hated the media and refused to 306 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: do like national interviews. I can assure you the Warriors 307 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: were not the team that David Stern and Adam Silver 308 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: were rooting for before the dynasty. Steve Kerr smart, Steph 309 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Curry's amazing, Draymond Green's a Hall of Famer. So they 310 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: know the rules and that's why they win. That's why 311 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: they win so many close games. That's why they're so 312 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: good on this stuff. I mean, I watched Kansas City 313 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: in these situational moments. By the way, you saw it 314 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: with Denver, j Max. You saw it with Denver against 315 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles when they went for the two point conversion 316 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton came out, he goes, oh, I love 317 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: that play, and we worked down it perfectly. That's why, 318 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: because the last three or four weeks they've done it 319 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: forty times at practice. So I know, folks, you think 320 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 1: in the stands on your couch, you got it all 321 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: figured out. That's what these teams do. Seventy five percent 322 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs practice is on plays like this. They're 323 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: not practicing between the forty yard line stuff. They're practicing 324 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: situational third down football, and Andy Reid's arguably the best 325 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: that's ever done it in the history. 326 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: Of the league. 327 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 6: You know what's tough about this is the broadcast brought 328 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 6: on the rules officiator guy, and he said it would 329 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 6: have been a good offensive pass interfears, and I think 330 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 6: that's probably what. 331 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: Led to the online tsunami of oh the Chiefs get 332 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: all the calls. I was a little. 333 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Confused, right, Oh, contention is the guy came on and 334 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, some of these rules analysts, Thank god, 335 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: we've had Mike Pereira. I'll just say that we've had 336 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: real good ones at Fox. They're not all equal, just 337 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: like all quarterbacks and coaches aren't equal. All rules analysts 338 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: on networks are not equal. Jmack with the news. 339 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: Now this is the herd Line News. 340 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 6: All right, let's get started with last night's Brewers game. 341 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, how about that the Brewers had played 342 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 6: fifty five postseason games in franchise history and had never 343 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 6: homered with multiple runners on base in any of them. 344 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 6: Then they hit two three run homers in the span 345 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 6: of four innings. Went from Andrew Vaughan Latin homers since 346 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: August fifteenth and Jacksonurio. 347 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who is a complete stud. 348 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is great, This is good for baseball. I mean, 349 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I know everybody loves the Cubs, but I'll tell you this, 350 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Milwaukee is. It reminds me years and years ago when 351 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: the Rays down in Tampa before the Dodger stole their 352 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: GM Andrew Friedman. The Rays were good every year and 353 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: you're like, they have no money. They literally have no 354 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: fans and no money. Milwaukee's got fans in money. So 355 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's like a better capitalized version of Tampa, where they 356 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: scout better, they develop better, They've got a pipeline of 357 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: really smart managers in their minor league system. Milwaukee is 358 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: a you know, you think about this all the time. 359 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Think of how good, how well run the Packers are, 360 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: and now how well run the Brewers are. So it's 361 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: just yet the New York football teams are sad, sack pathetic, 362 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: has Matt spills, so everybody gets they're afraid of all this. 363 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Milwaukee does sports well. Well, the Bucks 364 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: are about to lose, you honest, But you're right. 365 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: They've been a winning playoff team right now. New York 366 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: sports is gross. Everything in Wisconsin. 367 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, the Badgers as. 368 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, But the Badgers right now, I mean, they've never 369 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: gotten their quarterback right. But the nil has not helped 370 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Wisconsin football. It's it's it's and that's kind of a 371 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: cultural change that they're going to have to figure out. 372 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: Badger fans, I agree with Barry Alvarez, are a little spoiled. 373 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: They've been so good for so long since he got there. 374 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: But i'd sist Milwaukee is a team without a flaw. 375 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: They don't have the Dodger star power, bullpen staff. We're 376 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: hitting average singles. I think Bay and the Jades. They 377 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: may let the National League and singles. 378 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 6: They do everything well, and the Cubs come back and 379 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 6: make this interestinger. 380 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean Milwaukee's got win one more game. Do you 381 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: think Milwaukee's going to go into three game losing streak? 382 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: Great teams, don't. 383 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 6: I hope, so go Cubs. Next up, Colin Not great news. 384 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 6: Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman, who's emerging, is like maybe 385 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: a number one time. Interestingly, he was absent for the 386 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 6: Bill's first drive Sunday night against the Patriots. 387 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Everybody's wondering where's Keon Coleman. 388 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 6: Bill's coach Sean McDermott was asked about it Monday, and 389 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 6: here's what he said about his young pass catcher. 390 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Growth maturation that leads to. 391 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 9: Consistency more than anything, and like anything else you do, 392 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 9: you have winning habits, it leads to winning on the field. 393 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 9: And so that's really what we're trying to create, and 394 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 9: that's what we're here to do, is help young men 395 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 9: in this case grow and mature and develop and come professionals. 396 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: Shocker wide receiver maturity issues not good. 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: We saw Jordan Addison in Minnesota was benched. 398 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: Hanging out with a rapper in London after hour. I mean, 399 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: was that the crazy? 400 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean that it's amazing to me that you would 401 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: talk yourself into that knowing. I mean, it's like the 402 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: golden rule for any organization when you go on the road. 403 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: It's like the two times people get in trouble companies, 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: are you go on the road or a Christmas party. 405 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: You got to know that going in butt't it out. 406 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: And so it's just like, come on, man, Jordan Aison, 407 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: come on, bro, You're you're smarter than that. And then 408 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: this is probably another you know, a young guy making 409 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: a mistake. 410 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: Well, Keon Coleman. This guy was a big time athlete. 411 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: He was at Michigan State basketball and football. Briefly, they 412 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 6: need him Colin because that receiving core like Kim Kid's awesome. 413 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: Shak here's a good slot guy. 414 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: They can't need Kid. Bills can't defend their run. What 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: does that mean? So there are going to be stretches 416 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: where Josh Allen watches. I mean, like a bad matchup 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: for Buffalo would be Detroit. Detroit's a bad matchup because 418 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen would sit and watch the game on the bench. 419 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: So they have to score some easy points. 420 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Okay, because you start looking at the way Buffalo is constructed, 421 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: they need that pop player. I mean, just like New 422 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: England Stefon Diggs. You need these pop players because not 423 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: every you can't win Super Bowls where everything is a 424 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven play drive like last night. Kansas City because 425 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: they don't have Rashi Rice yet and it's an emerging, 426 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: growing receiving core. Kansas City had long, long, several long drives. 427 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: At some point Worthy in Rashi Rice will give you 428 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: four play touchdown drives like right now. That's the thing 429 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: with Philadelphia. It's like they're a run team, but you 430 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: got to get aj Brown. He's got to give you 431 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: a freebie every weekend. They can't get him the ball deep. 432 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, this Bill's run defense major leaky Ravens ran all 433 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 6: over them. 434 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: We know the Chargers are going to have a real 435 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: good run game. Broncos have a good run game. 436 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I don't know that the I 437 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: don't feel as confident as I did about the Bills 438 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 6: coming out. 439 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: Of the as. No do I who do you have 440 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: a leader at this point? Is it Buffalo? 441 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you, I don't know who's gonna 442 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: win the AFC. You do not want to play the Colts. 443 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Cults are gonna win their division. You do not want 444 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: to play the Colt I. 445 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: Mean, John choices. 446 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 6: I would rather face Daniel Jones anywhere, Indie whatever, than I. 447 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: Would rather face Josh Allen in the playoffs. 448 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: Okay, that's obvious. Josh Allen's gonna make things happen, bro 449 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 6: final story Listen, I don't want to get too negative here, Colin, 450 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 6: but isolate number ninety five Chris Jones on your screen. 451 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: This was the game decided to play. Look at Chris Jones. 452 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: He's not even running. I mean, he's just loafing. 453 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 6: Chris Jones, not even making any of an effort. Trevor 454 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 6: Lawrence fill down twice on this play. 455 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: Jones couldn't stiff him. 456 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 6: You see the rest of his defense after that, there's 457 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: multiple angles on this. 458 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: The rest of the defense is gas. They're on one knee. 459 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm tired. Chris Jones is just like 460 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 6: walking around now. He was asked of it after the game. 461 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: Here's what he said. 462 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 10: I thought, multiple times we had him and we just 463 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 10: got to finish. 464 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 11: We got to finish. 465 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, multiple guys there that we just got to finish 466 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: that play. 467 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: It was a flute play for him to be able 468 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: to break that many tackles. But yeah, I think I 469 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: put it on mess as the defense. 470 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 10: We got to finish, you know, we got to bring 471 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 10: him down on that. 472 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Now, it should be noted on that last drive he 473 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: he almost created three or four disruptions. So Chris Jones 474 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: was very good, and he forced Trevor Lawrence to run 475 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: on the out side on a big play. I think 476 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: he thought he was down and stopped and then he 477 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: got up and he thought, oh, I can't catch him. 478 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to defend Chris Jones. But Chris Jones 479 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: had had a good final drive until that play. 480 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't like hearing we we we we had multiple 481 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: guys there. How about I I didn't make a play? Now? 482 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: Remember week one? Do you remember the game against the Chargers? 483 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert on that bootleg and he didn't contain and 484 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: Drew Trenkle got in his face and they were kind 485 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 6: of squabbling. 486 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: I'm just listen. 487 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 6: Chris Jones is He's obviously a Hall of Fame player, 488 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 6: He's got the credentials. Something's going on this season. He 489 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: does not seem locked in Colin. If they lose to 490 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 6: the Lions. This is gonna go sideways for Kansas City at. 491 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: Two and four with some holes in the. 492 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 6: Defense where she writes, ain't saving to day, He's not 493 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: put on a superman gape and getting Chris. 494 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 3: Jones into shape. Look at that he's walking. Can you 495 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: imagine me half asking a segment like that. 496 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 6: You'd be like, come on, that is unacceptable. Andy Reid 497 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: has to show that Spagnolo to the whole defense. 498 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: Colin, that is not good man, show that to Nick. Right, 499 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious what he thinks. All right, we'll la mister 500 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 3: Kansas City. Yeah, you go ahead and sell all your 501 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: chief stock. I don't even know that anything all by, 502 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: all of them, have all of it, all of it 503 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: is all yours. Jmack with the news. 504 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 505 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: herd Line News. 506 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's the old cliche that you want to 507 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: you wanna treat people well as you're moving up the 508 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: food chain in life, because you'll be coming down that 509 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: food chain and people will remember. And the stories now 510 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: are emerging, multiple sources, multiple stories, multiple leaks at Carolina 511 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick and Mike Lombardi. It is a disaster. 512 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: Parents hate him, administrators can't stand him. And this is 513 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: what happens when you lose people keep quiet when you're 514 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: winning because nobody wants to hear it and you'll get 515 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: called out. But when you're losing, the truth comes out. 516 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: And I said this for years, Belichick, when he was 517 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, he didn't treat people well. 518 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: In New England. He didn't even treat Brady well. 519 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: And now. 520 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: Think about how successful he was in New England. Couple 521 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: bad seasons. Robert Kraft is like out of here. Would 522 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: you really do that if he had a warm spot 523 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: in your heart? Form But he's been so curt and 524 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: so bottom line and so dismissive for so long that 525 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: the minute New England went sideways, the minute Carolina go sideways. 526 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: And I said this, Belichick and Mike Lombardi, it's a 527 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: friends and family staff. They're NFL guys, they're not college guys. 528 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: College football is about pageantry and bands and lee corso 529 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: for years putting on a silly mascot helmet. If you 530 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: watch the college football pregame show at that network or 531 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: our network, it's stunts and fun and laughing and it's great. 532 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: It's not the NFL. The NFL is business. It's cutting 533 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: guys after a bad game. It's hard, and Belichick is hard, 534 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: and Lombardi's his guy. 535 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: He's hard. 536 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I said, I don't know how this 537 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: thing's going to go. But they're NFL guys, and there's 538 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: a lot of sons on the staff, and they're the 539 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: well compensated ones, at least in Belichick's case, and it's 540 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: going to create animosity. And now there are stories out 541 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: now that when you're dismissive and you're gruff and you're 542 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: cranky and on the way up, people get a member 543 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: on the way down and they've had no on the 544 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: way up at Carolina. So I mean, Drew bledsoell, what 545 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: was on our show yesterday? Just I asked him, are 546 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: you surprised how bad it's been? 547 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 11: Bill is obviously brilliant, there's no getting around that. But 548 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 11: he also put together teams in New England that were brilliant. 549 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 11: You know, you look at the guys on the defenses 550 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 11: that he coached and the you know, you got, you know, 551 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 11: really brilliant guys. Rabel was one of those guys. You know, 552 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 11: Teddy Bruski, you know ty law Lawyer, Molloy, Rodney Harrison, 553 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 11: you son. I'm not piling on Bill here, but you know, 554 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 11: you're gonna go sit in the living room with a 555 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 11: seventeen year old you know, do you want to go 556 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 11: play for Bill Belichick as a seventeen year old, you know? 557 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 11: Or do you want to go, you know, play for 558 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 11: the Oregon Ducks. 559 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, Bledsoe is no fan of 560 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. He's a Washington Stater. So and I 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: think this is true. I think just sort of the 562 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Kurt Gruff dismissive nature. I think it works at the 563 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: NFL level if you're winning, But the minute Bill started 564 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: losing in New England, people are just over it. 565 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: The other thing. 566 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: And I've said this before, not every NFL coach would 567 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: win in college, even though NFL coaches on average are 568 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: better than college coaches. 569 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: I always felt. 570 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: John Gruden and Rex Ryan, their personalities can win in college. 571 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Nick Saban may have been gruff, but he's also charming. 572 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: And Nick Saban's got a personality, and he's a great storyteller. 573 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: And Nick Saban likes the media. He disagrees with the media. 574 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: He can be rough on the media, but Nick Saban 575 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of likes the media. He joined the media. It's 576 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: not performative. Nick's fun to be around. Nick Listens. Nick's fun, 577 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: he's charming, he's smart, Bill smart. But I just this 578 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: is a I didn't think it would be this bad. 579 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: But you know, Mac Brown won twice at North Carolina. 580 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: He won a lot of games. And he tweeted out 581 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: a picture yesterday with Drake May which may be a 582 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: shot at Belichick. I'm not sure because Belichick won't have 583 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: anything to do with anybody that plays for the Patriots. 584 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: And again it's all that grudge holding and anger and 585 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: that vendetta stuff because he doesn't like Robert Kraft and broke. 586 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: You got to get over it. 587 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: College I said this, the NFL is about upstairs. It's 588 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: about smart GMing and really good scheming. College football is 589 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: about talent. Because you only have seventeen hours a week 590 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: to coach. You're not gonna win with schemes. You need bros. 591 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: You just got to have talent. In the NFL, you 592 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: have to have some talent, but you really have to 593 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: have a good front office. I mean, that's why Kansas 594 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: City is good year after year after year. It's not 595 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: just Andy Reid and Mahomes. They haven't had always the 596 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: most talent, but they work the trade deadline, they draft 597 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 1: and develop. Well, they find guys in later rounds. So 598 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's an upstairs, downstairs thing. In the NFL. 599 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: College is about guys. You guys got to get guys, 600 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: and it's you know, this is getting ugly. And now 601 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: there's a ton of leaks because he's alienated so many 602 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: people through the years. And you know, college football a 603 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: lot of it's about walking down the hall and saying 604 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: hi to the volleyball coach and taking the call for 605 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: from the dad whose son's not playing. I said, that's 606 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: not Bill. That is not Bill, and that is college football. 607 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to own it, don't do 608 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: it right right. If you don't like the smell of 609 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: a farm, don't milk cows right like part of working 610 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: on a farm as it smells all the time, and 611 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: you gotta get used to it, or don't be a farmer. 612 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: This is this is really bad. Go read the stories yourself. 613 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: There it is the tide is turned. 614 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 615 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific Today. 616 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 6: It's a pair of game threes in the Alds starting 617 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: but the Mariners taking on the Tigers. 618 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: Coverage begins next here on FS one. 619 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 6: Then in primetime Judge and the Yankees look to stay 620 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: alive as they host the Blue Jays at eight Eastern. 621 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: I've said this, I said it yesterday and last week 622 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: about the Yankees. The Dodgers and the Yankees spend a 623 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: lot of money on their teams. The difference is the 624 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Yankees are uneven and totally home run dependent. The Dodgers 625 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: just have a bad bullpen. There's a difference. The Yankees aren't. 626 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they field as well. They don't sacrifice, 627 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: they don't do small ball, they don't have a great bullpen. 628 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: I think last night you really saw what makes the 629 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Dodger special is they know they've got to get three 630 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: and four run leads. They know they've got to have 631 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: great starting pitching. Dodgers know that, but last night they 632 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: answered the bell. That's always harder to win on the road, 633 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: a harsh environment. But between Snell and Rojas and Will Smith, 634 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: Munsey and Bookie Betts on the defensive gym in the 635 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: ninth inning, it was a complete team victory. I don't 636 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: know if the Yankees can do that. And Toronto gets 637 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot of guys on base, so the Eagles are 638 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the best roster in the NFL, but over the course 639 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: of the last two years, they've been surging, shrinking hot 640 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: cold based on their coordinators. And they think they've hired 641 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: a coordinator, a first time play caller, and he's struggling 642 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: to find his way. So talented players don't just suddenly 643 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: get untalented. And last year this offense was unbelievable. Philadelphia 644 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: has got a coaching crisis, and in times of crisis, 645 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: you have to go back to your identity, and the 646 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Eagles identity is pretty obvious. Last two years, they're twelve 647 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: to zero when they throw fewer than twenty five times, 648 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: run the damn ball, and be physical. It's not complicated, 649 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: so it's interesting. Sometimes it's very complicated. Why is a 650 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: team losing? And you're looking around, You're like, I don't know, 651 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: Like Kansas City last night, well the thirteen penalties, we 652 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: had a bad pick six, but they should have won 653 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: the average seven point six yards of play. So you 654 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: fly back home and you're scratching your head. It's not 655 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: difficult with this team. They were two and two last 656 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: year at the bye, and you know what they did. 657 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: Threw the ball less, ran more and it won here's 658 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on their issues. 659 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 12: I just think that Filly needs just be proud of 660 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 12: who they are. Like I think, you know, sometimes you're 661 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 12: trying to feed disgruntled players just a little big trying 662 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 12: to keep everybody happy. I think Saquon I appreciate how 663 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 12: they're getting involved in the passing game, but you're giving 664 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 12: the defense too much credit. If you just say, oh, 665 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 12: they're gonna quote unquote stack the box against Saquon, Make 666 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 12: them prove that they can stop the run. That would 667 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 12: be my advice to Philly. Make every team you play 668 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 12: prove that they are as physical as they are lining 669 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 12: up to be with guys in the box. 670 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there should never be a moment for the Philadelphia 671 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: Eagles when you lead by fourteen points and Saquon Barkley 672 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: finishes with only six carries. That is coaching malfeasons and 673 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: for the record, coaches and players improve. That is not 674 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to say their new offensive coordinator can't grow and get better. 675 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I watched Matt Lafleur, first year Packer coach. The second year, 676 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: I felt like, Wow, he was a much better situational 677 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: coach in year two, a much better coach After halftime 678 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: coaches improve. But yeah, I don't think it's complicated with Philadelphia. 679 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: Just run the ball more so. There's always been this 680 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: weird mystery with one player in NFL history, and I've 681 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: talked about it on this show several times. Russell Wilson 682 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: did not have a major injury, and he went from 683 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: elite to not very good to bad really fast. Why 684 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: how did he age so quickly? I was reading a 685 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: tweet yesterday by Daniel Popper. It says since entering the 686 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: NFL in twenty twenty, Justin Herbert has been hit more 687 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: times than any quarterback in the league. Only one other quarterback, 688 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, has been hit more than four hundred and 689 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: ninety times in that span. By the way, said Daniel Popper, 690 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was hit five hundred eighty times in his 691 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: six seasons. Justin Herbert is on pace to be hit 692 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty five times through six seasons. There's 693 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: your answer on Russell Wilson. He just spent a career 694 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: getting hit too much and he aged fast. Go look 695 00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: at Cam Newton. Cam Newton started declining at twenty nine, Gannett, 696 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: Cam got hit too much. 697 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: Andrew Luck left the league early. 698 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: So it's almost like if you want to be the 699 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: guy that closes the bar in your twenties and thirties, 700 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: you may not see it in real time. You're gonna 701 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: look like hell at fifty one, you can look like 702 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: fifty nine and you may not see it now in 703 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: real time with Justin Herbert, but you cannot get hit 704 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen times a game, and we know why 705 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: because both tackles are out and Makai Bectin's never healthy. 706 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: So right now, the Chargers are starting three sixth round 707 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: picks on the offensive line. And whereas Cincinnati can't protect 708 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Burrow because they're cheap. This is not a cheap thing. 709 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: This is a cluster injuries at one position. And for 710 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: years I've always had this rule. I've talked to executives 711 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: in this league forever. I always say, there's three ways 712 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: to win in this league, and you have to do 713 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: him in order find a great quarterback. Number two, buy 714 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: insurance for him, protect him at the offensive line, and 715 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: then draft guys who make the opposing quarterback uncomfortable. That's 716 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: the league. If you do those three three things, well, 717 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: you win super Bowls. When the Rams and McVeigh won 718 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl star quarterback Andrew Whitworth, left tackle Aaron 719 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: Donald von Miller. 720 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: That's it. 721 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth retires. You still have McVeigh, You still you 722 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: have Jared Verse, you have Matt Stafford. Offensive lines not 723 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: quite as good. So this is really an offensive line issue. 724 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: But unlike Cincinnati, who just doesn't spend the money, the 725 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: Chargers have just had bad breaks. So my takeaway is 726 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: go back to those Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson stats. 727 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers, for no other reason forget winning 728 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: today is to protect their asset, have to make a 729 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: move at the trade deadline. I think the Rams need 730 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: to corner. I think you have to go and get 731 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: a tackle. And if you have to move Slater when 732 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: he gets healthy, if you you gotta go protect this guy. 733 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: Go look at it, right, Andrew Luck was a big player. 734 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was gigantic. Remember how quickly big Ben? Remember 735 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: the Big Ben play when he snapped the ball and 736 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: fell down without being touched. Big Ben six six two 737 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: sixty A big man. Herbert's big But they got to 738 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: protect them. Here here's Jim Harbaugh in their recent struggles. 739 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 10: Doing exactly what we're supposed to be doing and that's 740 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 10: where you got to that's where you got to tighten 741 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 10: tighten up. We need to get the bleeding stop on 742 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 10: the you know, on the penalties of self inflicted wounds, 743 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 10: and it takes I know that's and I know that, Uh, 744 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 10: I know we're capable of doing that. No, we're a 745 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 10: good football team in those areas, and we're not good 746 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 10: at it right now. 747 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: Again, three six rounders playing starting. Also, Tom Brady did 748 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: the game this past week and Tom Brady said, Justin 749 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Herbert's the best passer in the league. 750 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: He's the best peer passer. He's forty four forty and 751 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 3: a lot of it has been rookie year on. 752 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: They can't protect him, and so I think there's some 753 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: times you have to you know, some things in life 754 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: you have to overspend, Like if you have kids, you're 755 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna spend more in a house for the school district. 756 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: There are things in life you just have to overspend. 757 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: One gee, you're just gonna have to overspend on a 758 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: school district if you have a bunch of young kids. 759 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: And I think if you have a star quarterback that's 760 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: getting hit, you just got to overspend on the old line. 761 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: You got to figure out stuff. You got to hit 762 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: on outher draft picks. You have to be cheap at linebacker. 763 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams won a Super Bowl. They weren't 764 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: very good at linebacker. They weren't very good at safety, 765 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: but they were great on the old line McVeigh and Stafford. 766 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: Right now, according to PFF, bottom five offensive line. So 767 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: you can say, well, we're gonna wait for Joe Walt 768 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: to get back. You want to wait three more weeks? 769 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: You want to watch fourteen hits three more weeks. 770 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: Oh, let me ask you something. 771 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 6: Listening to you talk about Jim Harbaugh's Chargers cluster injuries, 772 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 6: Why are both Harball brothers two of the most injured 773 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 6: teams in the league right now? Is that just fluky unlucky, 774 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 6: or is there like the mindset that they play harder 775 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 6: and it leads to injury. 776 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I just thought of this a second ago. 777 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 6: I'm like, the Ravens are really banged up, and now 778 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 6: the Chargers, I mean, Hampton's on the IR that's not good. 779 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Now, Well, I think both Harbaugh brothers lean into physicality 780 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: and some of it's bad breaks. But I think you 781 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: know it's the Ravens have been banged up for several years. 782 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: By the way, another coast that leans into physicality, Kyle Shanahan. 783 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: The Niners are banged up. There is no finesse with 784 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: the Harbor's or Shanahan. There's no finesse in those families.