WEBVTT - Celebrities, They're Just Like Us

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, it's I Do Part two and it's your

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity mentors.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl Burke and Jen Fessler. Hey girls, So there's so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl, can I just say that, I mean, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little starstruck. No, yes, not no, yes, I've been watching

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<v Speaker 2>you for so many years. It's just the most exciting

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<v Speaker 2>thing that this is. Like why I think like the

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<v Speaker 2>Whole Housewives of it all, not that it was fun

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<v Speaker 2>to do, but like this comes up always freaks me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that I'm talking with Cheryl Burke and

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<v Speaker 2>you're really cool for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so sweet. When are you going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars as soon? That's not true, I say, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as they asked me. Never really, I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I could barely walk, so I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I could whip you into shape off camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so much happening in the headlines right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to kick it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's start with the most heartbreaking thing that I've

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<v Speaker 2>read in quite some time. Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman

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<v Speaker 2>are getting divorced. I mean, this one hurt. This one's

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<v Speaker 2>stunk because first of all, I well, I really love

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<v Speaker 2>him and I love her. It's hard not to. But

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<v Speaker 2>just their relationship to me, the way he used to

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<v Speaker 2>like go to war shows and you'd be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>love you baby, whatever however he would say in his

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<v Speaker 2>Australian accent, And they were so affectionate right right. And

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<v Speaker 2>the war show it was almost like a little cringey

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just taller than him and and but

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<v Speaker 2>it just was so the whole thing to me was

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<v Speaker 2>so adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were just overly affectionate, I think as a

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<v Speaker 1>couple and in person that I think in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like, oh, is this is this real?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like just because it was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to seeing that, Especially with celebrity couples. They

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<v Speaker 1>do tend to you know, pull back.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe oh well yeah or yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not all over each other, you know

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<v Speaker 1>as much. I don't see that as much, right, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I thought I bought into it as much as Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there were times I was like, what is happening here?

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<v Speaker 2>Especially with him, he seemed like he seemed mesmerized with her,

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<v Speaker 2>which I mean, how could he not be, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>like on the Tales of the her first marriage, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know was so heartbreaking, so the tom Quis Cruise

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, she'd found love, you know, the second time around,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was just another superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean she's a superstar in her own right, Oh, bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Than both of them really this well, but yeah, she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge, She's huge. She seems really humble. She seems like

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<v Speaker 1>she's a good person, and I I mean, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard anything bad about Nicole Kidman on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's always a good sign. And same with him,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Always the sweetest. If you did you watch on do

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<v Speaker 3>you watch the Voice?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not watch it with him on it, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the Voice American Idol, but he was he on

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<v Speaker 2>American Idol, Yeah, with Lionel Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I had did not see that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know he was on it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was and so sweet and encouraging to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the contestants. Yeah, yes, did you see it coming? I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did do a little digging, as I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess he you know, he's going through sobriety

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<v Speaker 1>or he I don't know if he's trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>sober or if he is publicly has announced this, but

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<v Speaker 1>there has been some sort of alcohol involvement when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to their relationship and something that I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>this is just per an article that I'm reading. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not anything that I know personally, but supposedly it

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<v Speaker 1>was an issue even before they got married, but Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>still moved forward with it, you know, and I'm sober,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've been sober for seven years now, and it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it does become that third person, your addiction

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes if not staying on top of it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I have no idea this factors into it, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is just us, you know, guessing. But I know

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<v Speaker 2>her mom passed away recently, and I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 2>that would lead them obviously to get divorced, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like just emotionally she's been going through it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's also some cheating allegations that I read as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that you're killing me really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot the messenger? Not wait who him or her?

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<v Speaker 1>Him? Oh, come on, he's supposedly actually currently seeing somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>So so funny people always say this, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about women like Nicole Kidman, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most beautiful women in the world and a

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<v Speaker 2>superstar and so seems so warm and talented, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it doesn't in the end, the physical maybe doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it matters, just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I mean it looks like they I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can have at least this is what I'm reading,

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me, but if you could have an amicable

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<v Speaker 2>divorce or you know, not so complicated, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they From what I'm reading, it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're I think they've settled. It is it over? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not over.

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<v Speaker 2>They've settled.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as like properties go, they never had any

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<v Speaker 1>shared they didn't have joint they didn't have anything together.

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<v Speaker 1>They never bought property together, even Nashville. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where she is, but I do know that they

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<v Speaker 1>have already like split the furnit. I mean, they already

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<v Speaker 1>went through it in that sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kids too, right, like they've already worked out

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<v Speaker 2>the kids this custody. He gets the kids on Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's all I read up to. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot less time than she does. It used

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<v Speaker 2>to be that just the mothers did get so much more,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know that it's like that as much.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the kids are not that young either, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm sure they had to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they're in school, they're not going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a new school in Nashville, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Even there, I think even like their Christmas vacations, like

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<v Speaker 2>they alternate Christmas maybe even day and then, but she

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<v Speaker 2>gets more of a vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean, and if he is with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, that is not I mean, these kids are again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not They're old enough to be bothered by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. Yeah, I mean I'm assuming they're

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<v Speaker 2>had to have been a prenup, which is which I

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<v Speaker 2>would have definitely if anyone asked me, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>definitely suggest it.

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<v Speaker 1>With that kind of wealth, well, I do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>because they're both successful, I think that eliminates quite a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of drama, right, Like they're not necessarily money hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they're both independently wealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that helps a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, definitely, no one that fear that financial and

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<v Speaker 2>security and the fighting over the money is right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know where they got married or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>like in California, you know, like it is interesting. You

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<v Speaker 1>can cheat all you want. They don't care, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't either. I think it's not it's a no fault

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<v Speaker 2>state or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's like, no, they're trying to take the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions out of everything though it's very much not not related.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm just reading some of the notes here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's yeah, she definitely gets a lot more time

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<v Speaker 2>than him, and I guess. Yeah, neither one is paying alimony,

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<v Speaker 2>no need it. It says both Kimen and Urban's monthly

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<v Speaker 2>income is reported in the filings as exceeding one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, which I'm sure it, you know, way exceeds it.

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<v Speaker 2>But did he I feel like he talked about maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't get sober, like a few years back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he didn't get sober.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about being sober, I guess, and in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, but see, this is when I had decided

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<v Speaker 1>to be sober. I just know that when I announce anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like then the pressure and the overwhelming anxiety I have.

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<v Speaker 2>To have to live to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so, I never told anyone about my not even

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<v Speaker 1>my ex husband at the time, Like, I just decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do it and see if I could do it

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<v Speaker 1>for longer than just a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, did you do it with the through like AA

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<v Speaker 2>or did you just do it on your own and

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<v Speaker 2>one day? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do AA right away. I first, Well, in

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<v Speaker 1>all transparency, I started. I stopped drinking as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>my father passed away, and I started having an allergic

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<v Speaker 1>reaction like hives on my face to I think the

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<v Speaker 1>poison I was putting in my body. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>also very functioning drunk, so no one knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>very and that's the most dangerous I believe. So. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do know this that at that time, if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>told me, okay, maybe you need to like cool it

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<v Speaker 1>like no more, the more I'd want to drink. Because

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<v Speaker 1>until you take accountability, until you want to change your life,

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<v Speaker 1>the person or the people who are telling you to

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<v Speaker 1>be sober, you're going to resent. And so if let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this is true, but if she tries to,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't change anybody, right like, period, point blank. If

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<v Speaker 1>you we're going to really just make this a quick

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<v Speaker 1>and short cliff no version, and when you do, then

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<v Speaker 1>there is built up presentment I think towards that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I again, like they're being so hush

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<v Speaker 2>hush about it. It's hard to you know, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what happened. Maybe, Yeah, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. The cheating certainly makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wanted to work it out still though you

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<v Speaker 1>know she's like but clearly he's not. Yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that not wanting that. I think it helps when you

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<v Speaker 1>move on. I supposedly. I don't know, sorry, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help it. Fucking Keith urban Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, are you that shocked? Though, I'm not shocked

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<v Speaker 1>in general. I'm just not shocked. I think I'm jaded.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rarely yeah, but I'm rarely shocked at these Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I really am. I guess I think like I always

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<v Speaker 2>thought after Tom Cruise that weird.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the whole scientistic I don't think that I

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<v Speaker 1>hate thing to do with. I mean, she knew what

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<v Speaker 1>she was getting into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he was cuckoo. I mean my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what a nice thing to.

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<v Speaker 1>Find like right, like this, but it's not like she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, I don't I try not

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<v Speaker 2>to judge, especially when I don't even know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. But the same friend him, Yeah, exactly, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I think either, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like and by the way, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that that's a rebound and how long do

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds last? Right, And that's going to be a direct

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<v Speaker 1>effect to his sobriety. I mean for me, at least

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<v Speaker 1>it would. It would definitely be. You know, that is

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<v Speaker 1>another drug women and men, and that's another addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I've been there. I think at one

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<v Speaker 2>point in my life. I definitely have that addiction. Love addiction,

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<v Speaker 2>the love addiction. It definitely and I think we all

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Creeps some havoc, I don't, you know, Thank God,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been through it. You know, I don't know each other. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we will get to. But I've been separated. I've

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<v Speaker 2>not been I was separated for like a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half and I think we both kind of went

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<v Speaker 2>like a little crazy, but you know, trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>chasing that spark, and you know what I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>missing from that passion that you know, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of boyfriends. I had a lot of I

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of I had a lot of sex,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't have a lot of boyfriends necessarily, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was so it was such an addiction

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<v Speaker 2>for me to get attention from men and all of

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<v Speaker 2>that one you know, today it's a totally different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I see a spark as something completely different, totally. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have been choosing not to date. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't date since my ex husband, so it's been three

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<v Speaker 1>years of no sex of nothing. And I was a

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<v Speaker 1>serial dater, so like por prior to getting married, I

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<v Speaker 1>never was single since I was thirteen. Really, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was like I always had backup plans because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that you could fill up your cup without

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<v Speaker 1>anything outside of you except for me having to do

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<v Speaker 1>my own work, which was never going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>option obviously until now. But like, nothing is sustainable when

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<v Speaker 1>you look for that anything else outside of you fill

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<v Speaker 1>up what is whatever you're yearning for another half? Right right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no such thing. And I think these movies right

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<v Speaker 1>are so dangerous, Like the notebook and all of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not real like that, it's not real a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Sister, But listen, I thought if it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be real, and Nicole, you are, but listen, they also,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also just human, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I also I read that

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<v Speaker 2>decisions about the kids they're going to make together, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is fabulous. Although I think she had a

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<v Speaker 2>final say because I think a lot of well I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of friends who have been through divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>are going through divorce. I mean, I think we all

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<v Speaker 2>probably do, but that but it was the money, the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest parts of the money, and the kids obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>that struggle of and I know both men and women

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<v Speaker 2>that that that just tore apart for the men some

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<v Speaker 2>times feeling like they had no power and whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not they did, and for the mother feeling like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times this and this is just my personal experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I'm laughing because it's very relatable. I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it, I've lived through. But that that has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with us. If you feel emasculated, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all on you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that yes, agreed. And the mother is feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like I do know better. I am a mama bearry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that this is what's right for this kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and that struggle. Right. I've been with a kid more,

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<v Speaker 2>I've raised the kid. Let's say, not in all cases.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get any blowback from this, but

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<v Speaker 2>just in some of the ones, most ones that I've gone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know known my friends are like, I fing gave

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<v Speaker 2>birth to this kid. I raised this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know what so, but I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say when my mom and dad divorced at a

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<v Speaker 1>young age, my very first memory as a kid. This

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<v Speaker 1>audience has I think heard it before, but I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>it again was my dad cheating on my mother with

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<v Speaker 1>another woman, with his secretary. I was like two, And

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<v Speaker 1>I know this much that I would have whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>was time for me to see my father because they

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<v Speaker 1>separated obviously, and I had I never wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>him because he was always with a different woman. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I was very young. So if the kids can

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<v Speaker 1>speak for themselves, which I'm sure they can, I highly

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<v Speaker 1>doubt they're going to want to be there with him

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<v Speaker 1>if he's with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I was three, Cheryl, and I used to cry. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not want to leave my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know the feeling, and.

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<v Speaker 2>My father was quite the womanizer, so you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>I had dealt with it and that went into my twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't want to meet the new one ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a horrible feel. It's hard to like

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<v Speaker 1>put into words for me at least, like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt so like I felt like he was cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird. It was a weird like protective. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's very common.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I under I mean now obviously it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense as to like, you know, the pattern that I followed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crucial those years of your life. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>look at you bone now exactly taking all your time

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I love that, and I'm sorry. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to be shallow, but I just feel like, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're ready, you're not going to have a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>finding a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love you saying just saying thank you. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to leave my homes unless he's behind

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<v Speaker 1>closet number three. I don't know if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>meet anybody, But that's a whole nother podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a lot younger than you, and I have that now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am a homebody. I really also not just

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<v Speaker 2>my home. I really would rather not leave my bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's like, do we move on to the next

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<v Speaker 1>horrible divorce? This is just so a deadie downer, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is real. This is real life, right, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Oh, Scott Wolf, I haven't followed two. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it got really like dramatic fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I saw did you see a cup? I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a meltdown?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can't. I don't know why. That type of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff really triggers me. I just get really uncomfortable. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uncomfortable, it's uncomfortable, sad to watch, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of everywhere. So I think a Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf from Party of Five.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I actually did something with him recently, not recently,

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<v Speaker 1>this was recently. It was like ten years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like yesterday. We did some game show on

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<v Speaker 1>ABC together and he was so I mean, listen, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>when you first meet at them, they're great people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's happening behind closed doors, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be like he seems like no drama.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems really calm, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I again, this is one of those where we're just speculating,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel her pain and I feel her She's

0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.920
<v Speaker 2>she definitely is from what it appears, although she denies it.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems a little bit unhinged mental health, maybe with

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<v Speaker 2>very good reason. I don't know what kind of husband

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<v Speaker 2>he was. I don't know what kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>relationship they had, but I see him being pretty staunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds and from what I'm reading, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>is that she's not getting the time with her kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that has that's from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know that feeling because I don't have kids, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's, you know, the just the very thought of it

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<v Speaker 2>is so it is so overwhelming and frightening. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know kind of mother. I have no idea all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But what I see right now is just

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<v Speaker 2>sad and sound. It feels like she's she has calm,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit undone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to say that, it makes it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like she's gotten mentally insane. And but then now when

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying that, I'm like, okay, but we don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know all the pieces, right, I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, no one really knows but them. But

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately they're public figures and it's just not making her

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<v Speaker 1>look good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she didn't show up her court this last I

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<v Speaker 2>believe this this last time, and she's she's for whatever reason.

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:53.880
<v Speaker 1>It's related to misdemeanor charges though she's facing. So you know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you said, if you take your kids away

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<v Speaker 1>from a mother, I would kill somebody too, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would literally fight too, Like I would fight for

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<v Speaker 1>my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I fought for my dog, Like yeah, listen, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wait, she posted at one point Scott's phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's not okay, So that's not okay regardless, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But look, I just think mental health is just still

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable for people to talk about stigmatize. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you are a danger to society if you leave

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<v Speaker 1>your home and you're not mentally healthy and to yourself. Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like that is the scariest, Like we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>it on CNN on the news, people are just like

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<v Speaker 1>gone bat crazy, right, I feel like, especially now there's

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<v Speaker 1>no filter.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that too. I know. Also, her kids

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<v Speaker 2>made some not great posts about her, so that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so, that's sad.

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<v Speaker 3>It is really really freaking sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, you know, you watch all these stories

0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they're salacious, and if you're somebody, which I don't,

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to admit it. But who loves sometimes you know, drama,

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>gossip and drama and Hollywood, you know, trash talking, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, you get off on it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But the truth is, like something like this, it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems so sad to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I don't like to read about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do feel like I'm like reading someone's diary

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I feel so uncomfortable. I don't like when

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<v Speaker 1>I see people fight on TV. It makes me so uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Never watch Housewives I have, but and whenever you whenever

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<v Speaker 1>anybody fight. No, but I think it's the little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's something being triggered. Obviously, I think whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's my mom and dad fighting. Never physical, but still

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some people they love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it, I was a huge, huge fan and now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not fun to be in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>For I can't imagine girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot imagine no, and then having to watch it back, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, and then the social media and the hate

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.280
<v Speaker 2>of it all. Yes, not that I don't I think

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.280
<v Speaker 2>dancing with the Stars would be harder, but that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, physically maybe different. So what about are you

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<v Speaker 2>seeing j Lo's comments about so she has this new

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<v Speaker 2>movie and she's making all these comments about her marriage

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and Ben Affleck. I don't know about her divorce. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I haven't seen anything like too specific, but just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how how distraught she was during I'm sure

0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 2>she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it seems like really at a left field,

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<v Speaker 1>like where did that come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Isere? How did they get back together? Right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember the song she wrote for him the

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<v Speaker 2>first time they got together? Oh weird? Yeah that yeah? Whoa?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean talk about I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying she's a love an addict, but like

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<v Speaker 1>she loves love like who doesn't? Right, Like clearly she

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<v Speaker 1>gives a chance to love, whether it doesn't matter who

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, right? She says the thing about like it

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<v Speaker 2>was the this the divorce is the best thing that

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<v Speaker 2>ever happened to her because it changed doubt that I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt it too. Let's be real here, she also just

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<v Speaker 2>got she just went through getting kind of like publicly slammed. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like just not being such a sweet per person. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean I'm sure, I'm sure she has changed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and listen, he obviously has also had issues,

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<v Speaker 2>substance issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And exactly but like he keeps going running back home

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<v Speaker 1>to his ex.

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<v Speaker 2>If if I hadn't Jennifer Garner, I would be I

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<v Speaker 2>would too, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she seems like a safe house for me

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<v Speaker 1>at least I kind of run home to her too.

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<v Speaker 3>I one hundred percent would.

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<v Speaker 1>Make me a warm meal and maybe feel all good

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<v Speaker 1>and warm inside.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And when it when they first got divorced,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that's got to trigger the other Jennifer, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's so triggering totally.

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know she stills like sometimes hanging out with

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the kids. I think that looks that seems messy to me.

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.480
<v Speaker 2>She's mess sun out. Photo ops.

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<v Speaker 1>The photo is what kills me. I can't do the

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>photo ops. I agree, And unfortunately today you can see

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<v Speaker 1>when it's a photo up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you get everywhere and you see

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 3>it fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, does it it rubs people the wrong way? Now,

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>like we all can see just like television, you can't lie,

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 1>whether it's your body language that you're not hiding or whatever.

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 1>It is Like for me, you could just see it

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<v Speaker 1>on my face no matter how much botox I had,

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.239
<v Speaker 1>right like, it didn't matter, like you can see it

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and so like.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing that you can same thing with me,

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<v Speaker 2>of course with Ben also always specifically. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I've seen I didn't see I haven't seen

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Ben with her kids. I've just seen her with his.

0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Kids, which seems forced.

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.959
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know, it feels it.

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels very messy to me, and I think

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that maybe for the kids that would be confusing. But

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>they have Jennifer Garner for a mother who is not

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 2>because no one is, but gives the appearance to me

0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 2>of being a perfect mother.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, yeah, I mean she just seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>very normal which is which is not normal for us

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>to see. Agreed for Gardner is like she just seems

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>very normal. She doesn't care, she doesn't wear tons that

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.199
<v Speaker 1>make she's not like, she doesn't care what she looks like.

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel this. I feel like that too.

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's no way and she's still gorgeous.

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>She's even more beautiful.

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Like during the.

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Fires La fire, she was out there, she was getting dirty. Yep,

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't a photo op.

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's funny. I don't Ben. He does

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>seem like he keeps sort of showing up and wanting

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to be with her. But when I was separated, I

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 2>was My life was such chaos and I remember just

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>feeling like my husband was, what are you doing, Jennifer,

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Like he is your safe place? And I would you know,

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 2>we would, We didn't. It wasn't It wasn't that contentious. Well,

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously because we got back together.

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>What happened if you don't mind me asking, like, no,

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>not at all.

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Why did she split? We're cheated on each other, and

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 2>so that happened. But that's that was the actual impetus.

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>But of course I think it was seven years in

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>very cliche. We had two young kids and we were

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 2>just really not checking in, not really and arguing a

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>lot and feeling the stress of having a young family

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>and not taking just I think taking each other. For granted,

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 2>we always say that and then then add infidelity to that,

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know it, it kind of fell apart. But

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, I feel like maybe I, well maybe

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>we both felt like Ben in it because there was

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>just so much that I missed, and not just mostly

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 2>him my best friend, but also just that feeling of

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>peace because my husband is I'm nuts, I'm completely out

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 2>of my working mind and he.

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Is solid, right balances to you, yes, yes.

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it feels like Ben is definitely the

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 2>one who is who has erratic behavior. Garner seems so.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just what I was scared though I

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know any of them, but with Jennifer Gardner, I

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, please don't go back to him, like I

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hope that. But clearly she's not just a beautiful woman

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and smart. She's very strong, and she doesn't because she's

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not getting back together with him, but she's definitely still

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 1>cordial obviously, yeah, maybe a little bit more than cordial.

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I think there's this thing when people are

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 1>really and I and I think this is where you

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>can see the beautiful side of humans, right. I believe

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that when someone's at their lowest, you know, you hopefully

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you have people who love you that will help you, right,

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that if anything, it's more like she

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.959
<v Speaker 1>feels maybe sorry for him.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I feel like that's

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>it seems like that to me too.

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's you know, the beauty of marriage, right.

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. I wanted so badly to talk

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to you about your marriage and divorce.

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I can only say so much.

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'll really, you are divorced.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I am divorced, but we did sign a prenup.

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm and I'm not going to ask you, but

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 2>this is maybe not we're talking about, you know, because

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>but at some point I not not just out of curiosity,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 2>but sounds it sounds like it was first of all,

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 2>very difficult, but it's so inspiring that you're sober.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah it tested me.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Though, Yeah, I bet it did, no doubt.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I also, it wasn't just the divorce with

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>my ex. It was the divorce with Dancing with the

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Stars all in one year, and then leaving my home

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I lived in for sixteen years and I moved to

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>where I am today. So it's like it's just it

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>was all happening in one year, and those are three

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>big life changes. They say, if you hit five in

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>one year, you're most likely going to check into the

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>nearest mental institution.

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>That's just my personality. Let's just do it now. We

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>got to do it now.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, do you have regrets about the way

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it went down?

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>No, But to say that I haven't or still sometimes

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>greed would be a lie too. I think it can

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>be both, you know. I know that I need to

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>cut off basically both divorces in order for me to

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to see what I see in the mirror

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 1>and actually like the person I see. Yeah, and I

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>think that though it happened quickly, this was not just

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>quickly quick decisions. This was stuff lingering inside of me

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>for many, many years.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm guessing hoping therapy.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've been in therapy since I was since I

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>saw my dad with another woman when I was two.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't stopped.

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I met two years and years and years. I can't

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>imagine life without No.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Even my parents are like, you're still in therapy. I'm like, hey, listen,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that generation, stop it, you know, Like, I don't think

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>there's I think when you think you're good is when

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you need to go to therapy.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually, you know, And even the days I had therapy

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>today and I was like, not in the mood, of course,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 2>not right, it's work, And like even the days in

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the mood, yeah, it's I need therapy. It's so cathartic.

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 2>When something actually happens in my week, I think, I

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like, oh my god, I can't wait to get whatever.

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>A non biased opinion is. So it's vital. But also

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>to be able to build and create and save tools

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of how you can deal or instead of react, respond

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to something is something that money can't buy, right, Like

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>that's that is what I mean by like, it's like

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>physical health, Like people you can't just work out it

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>one day and think you're gonna stay whatever snatched or

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>get even snatched, not even close. It's all consistency. And

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>yet people are like it's too expensive to me when

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you say that you don't want to invest in yourself,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>like that to me is crazy.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Especially now I feel like there's so many different.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Chat GPTs killing it with a therapy supposedly. Really, oh yeah,

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>That's I don't know why. I feel like that's hard

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>for me, I can't imagine.

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 3>That's like I don't know as rezoom, but I need that.

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I need her.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I need that human who is who I can see

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>on her face and she can see on mine.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I have to say that my therapist. I mean, you know,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.479
<v Speaker 1>there a lot of people are a little bit nervous

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>about it. But at the end, at the end of

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the day, this is where we're heading, right, So like

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>we can't fight AI, so instead let's just see what

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it can do. And you know, I remember my therapist

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that she had a client who couldn't get a

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>hold of her one night and he used chat GBT

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>because he needed answers to it and it worked.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of working and working on yourself, how about

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Jessica Simpson.

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, she's creating a sexy lingerie line. She

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>looks fabulous.

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I actually she got a little bit of blowback online.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I think about her. I understand right, well, I mean right,

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>people are just mean.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah, even even worse when you're actually it's like,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you gain weight, you get, you get and

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I I mean and I definitely experienced that when I

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the show. Then you lose weight and I'm

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>experiencing it now where people are just so horribly mean,

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's even.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Worse people are mean to you. I mean, you're so

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>my god, you.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>See to go on my tip, look at my Instagram,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>like you just see comments. It's just actually I've stopped now.

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of therapy about it though, too.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, you know, I'm choosing to be in

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>this business, right, It's all a choice, and so therefore

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, I'm such a people pleaser that

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I want everyone to love me. But that's just not reality.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, I've learned that the hard way, So right, I'll

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>do yeah, right. I mean, she looks she's so hot,

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>she always has been. I was also disappointed about that

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>when I heard about that separation. You little, I don't

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>know anything about him, but I thought she looked happy.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember her back with Nick what's his name, lache? Yes,

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>but like she this guy, he was so handsome and

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>they have these dorable kids, and it's always like, what

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>but what do you know? Do you know anything about?

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I just I just remember that she's sober now, so

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that again, you know, the alcohol was played

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that third person that is never ends in a good way.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And because if you don't have control over it, right

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>then it's then it gets ugly sometimes.

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, when did she get sober?

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you now? Yeah?

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>A few years back she gets sober.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well she's she's ready to start dating again.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Good for her, and she's forty five. She looks great

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and she won't have an issue with that. I mean,

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I will never do dating apps, so

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she would either.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Hard for you guys, but I think you guys celebrities

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>when it's time to start that process again.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't done it so because it just

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>sounds is overwhelming. I'm just like that sounds horrible, right.

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I still think like the old fashioned way, like if

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a friend, you know what I mean, Like

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>so that I believe is still out there.

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how would you do dating apps?

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It would be like I can't.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I just they do have to. They have like celebrity

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>ones or something. They have raya righte.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But again, I'm looking for something a little more deeper

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>than just going and swiping through what somebody looks like, right,

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>because if that was the case, I probably not even

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>end up with the right person, because I'm just judging

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you by the cover.

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a huge That is a huge problem for

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>young people right now is that they are they are

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>not going out and having the face to face and

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the pheromones, and it.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Is it's affecting the mental health.

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes. I read a lot about this, specifically with the

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>boys that they are. Yeah, and but they also don't

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>learn rejection, and they don't and you know, you have

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Able to eye contact, shake a hand, yeah, and then.

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>And then if you're rejected, it's okay, you go out

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the next night and you or whatever it is. And

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, social media, we can just go. That's a

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>whole other episode. But listen, she has got some apparently

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>she's very into Leopards. She's got some sexy lingerie. Listen.

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>She was a shoe maven. Look what she did with shoes.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have Jessica Simpson shoes. Do you so?

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Do I?

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're great, They're actually really comfortable. She understood shed.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>She definitely got the memo. With the platform and the stiletto,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you balance that out. You can run miles in them.

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I can't wear high heels and

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>we'll Actually, you have a shoe line I created for

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>this very reason. But even though even my own shoes

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>that are three heels. But do you have a platform.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I know a platform is huge. Nope, it's not a platform.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but sometimes you don't want to wear platforms. They

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>look a little hookery.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I just think about the way you guys,

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>how your feet lasted from the years and years. I've

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>got pretty ass feet.

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody else, but my feet look like

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I could be a foot model. And I think it's

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>because I never dance barefoot. I don't do that, really,

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I came out of my mom's womb with

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>dances with three and a half inch stiletto heels. Like

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>my calves are sore if I don't wear heels so

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>because if shortened, yes, yes, that's unbelievable. But like I

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>but all these kids, you know, they're dancing barefoot, They're

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>dancing and sneakers like I can't. Like I was, I

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>just was trained in a different era.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Your whole body moves according to knowing.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Rights, Like how do you dance in and feel feminist?

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just I can't do it. It's a whole thing.

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole thing interesting.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, listener, she's as good at lingerie as

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>gon Shoes or her team. Yes, yeah right, I mean

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of She talks about a lot of leopard,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>she said. She she likes the even her furniture is leopard.

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I think her grandmother. It's her own version of beige.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about lingerie leopard. It's already kind of

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>racy as as it is. And by the way, it's

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>just a trend. We are soon going to be over

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>this animal print, I promise you.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I hope not, because I'm going to Bravocon

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks and I bought this ridiculously expensive leopard

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>in Trasta.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I love me adulta. I love a red and a

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>leopard always adult.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got you.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 1>Watch the Charlie Sheen documentary. I did.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I have to. I'm dying too. It's so good. It's

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>so good. Round of applause for him.

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I had to watch it because I just

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>loved him as a human being when I met him.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 2>He's a good guy, really well, he seems it, even

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>when he was, you know, in his winning phase, in

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the Wackadoudley phase. No, I still.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like I can relate to him, like

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>there is something very powerful and he does reveal quite

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things that I never knew about

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>him that makes me love him even more.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know, it's funny watching it.

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Also the Denise Richards and him in the way that

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>she even I saw this clip where she talked about

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>how she had a feeling he had HIV before. Did

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you see that. I mean, obviously the whole.

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Thing, but I know Denise because she did Dancing with

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the Stars, so yeah, and she's such a sweet soul too.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like and she still loves you can tell she

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>has so much love for him, Like she still gets

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>very emotional. And I think when she did dancing this

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>was at the height of when they split or they

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>had just split, and it was tough for her. You know,

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>it's tough. It's just tough, Like the divorce is one thing,

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>and then starting something new and like having it take

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.959
<v Speaker 1>up a lot of time is tough as well.

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think she has so much love for

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>her her ex X. Yeah, her last X Aaron. I

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't either me neither just looks so horrible, right, It

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 2>looks really shady. I know he is on his part

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent. I mean, I don't know if you so,

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>if you didn't watch Beverly Hills the House, watch a

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit, a little bit, there's that one. Well they

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>show the clip a lot where they're walking out of

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>this party and he says something about how he's going

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to crush their holding hands, say another thing and I'll

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>crush your hand or something really scary. No, I hope

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>him not allegedly, but it's not really allegedly.

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Was on Well, if it was on the show, but I.

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Hope, I don't know.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 3>If that was exactly something about something violent.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Well they can use that against him.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that was really and I'm sure that by the.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Way, who is this person, like obviously I don't know.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, I don't know him. But

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>this is just a classic person that somebody marries who's

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>really famous and is known trying to, you know, be

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>set for life because of this. Supposedly she cheated or

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter though in California, right, it doesn't matter

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>if you cheated.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>So, like what he's saying is rel I was wondering

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>about that because I think again in Jersey. It's like,

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 2>why because he's bringing in now all these witnesses.

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.760
<v Speaker 3>To talk about the fact that she cheated. Why does it?

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter, right, So the judges is gonna

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>laugh in his face like he can say this all

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>he wants. It doesn't It's not the audience that's voting, right, Like,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing?

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's bringing in so let's see.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He's bringing in. I don't know why. What's she well,

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Charlie and Brandy, I don't know how she's.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Brandyrdy Glanville said that she had an affair with Denise Richards.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was while she was married

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and maybe I don't remember, but yes, that they I

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 2>think it was like a one night.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Situationd married in California.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I know that and I don't

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 2>It might have been while she was married to this guy.

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>But apparently they had like a whole thing, and Brandy

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>claimed that Denise came on to her or something. Again,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm not misspeaking, but they had definitely, she

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 2>definitely said that they had an affair.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember when this whole thing about her doing only.

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Fans only fans only fans.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's what I should do. No, I'm kidding,

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that's your feet. I do have some weirdos following me,

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>always asking me about my feet. It's the most weird

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>people have foot fetish.

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>That weird right there.

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no judgment, he's bringing in, No judgment, amen,

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 3>But who else is he he's bringing in?

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>But he would he would photograph her.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So there's a part of me that thinks that he

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>actually liked the fact that Brandy and her got together

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>at that at that point. If if that's what it

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>was now, I don't know. I think it's a bump.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a stupid excuse. But if they did

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>get married in California, the judge is not going to

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>allow for these people to even step onto the stand

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>here because it's irrelevant, right.

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter exactly. I think that, let's see, he had

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>actually a restraining order against it, So I think he's

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>he is f U c k ed. Yes, Yes, I

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 2>wonder and listen. I can only hope that there was

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a prenup. I can't imagine in this day.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And age, I would hope. So I hope she definitely.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he would have signed it though,

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, you never know, and I don't know.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes well.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Especially when you're doing it, when you when you the

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>woman is doing it, you know.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>And when you fall madly in love. I think a

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of women make that mistake.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But you would think Denise would learn her lesson. She's smart.

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 1>She's a smart woman, yes she is. But if he is,

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes when you're in a relationship, it gets foggy.

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 2>This one is. This one is scary. It is scary.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It's every red flags everywhere, right, So not good. I

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>just hope she's safe. That's all that really matters at

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>And he violated the restraining order. That's scary. Yeah, it is.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>He's he's not going to win this. I can almost

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 1>bet my right ass cheek and.

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>What can it? Was he their kids though, are not

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 2>The two daughters are Charlie's and then she has an

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>adopted daughter. I don't know if he's.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>He's got kids too. I think a it is like

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two girls. I think.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 2>So he's calling in all these witnesses. Have you ever

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>been like, you've ever done anything like that?

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I was, I was definitely testified

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>against my molester when I was nine. But that's as

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>far as I that's as far nothing to do with

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>as an adults.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Know. I have to take a beat. I'm so sorry

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 2>that that happened to you.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It's so casual for me because I've said it publicly

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 1>so many times.

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't know, so thank you.

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Don't be sorry, I'm I'm sorry.

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And how horrible, how horrible. So yeah, this one, that

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 2>one is not good, not that any of them are good,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 2>but particularly scary sounds like to me.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't sound. I mean the fact that you

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>when anyone files a restraining order, that's definitely not that

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that is a sign to the outside world that you know,

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>she may not be safe.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So I hope she has really good friends and I

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that she feels safe wherever she is.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have the secret wish that maybe that

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>like her and Charlie will come.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's kind of it's kind of like Jennifer

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Gardner and Ben. I just want them to be good

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 1>friends because I don't I believe that they're just first

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of all, I mean, I think Charlie's he has been sober,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but still, I just there's so many skeletons. They're an

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>ex for a reason. Believe me, I married in my ex,

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>so he split for like ten years and then we reunited.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just like they're an x for a reason. Though

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I still have I wish him all like the best again,

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just not like, why go back, Let's move forward,

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>except in your case it seems to work.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>You. Thank you. I'm glad to see that he's come

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>out of that wild time in life that he led.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, an addiction is scary, it's a disease. Think

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>about Matthew Ferry all the time, and you know, I

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>think he talks about I'm not sure. I saw him

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>also on Bill Maher. I feel like he was talking

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>about miracle that he's alive.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah no.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>But the amount if I watched.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>This documentary twice because it was just so good and

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it was eye opening, and I just wanted to make

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>sure I hung on, like I just wanted to make

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>sure I saw everything because what he revealed with the amount,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his drug dealer was on this documentary, like

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>saying he couldn't believe how much he was doing as

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>far as drugs go and that he every single day

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he would wake up wondering if he was still alive,

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and he would go for weeks binge for a week,

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>like weeks upon weeks upon weeks, and this guy never stopped.

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that he's still alive is just a miracle.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 2>When I did see him on Bill Maher, he's also

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 2>he's very eloquent, he's very self deprecating. He's just so likable.

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh he is. But whatever, his life changing is hard, right,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not comfortable when you're making life changes.

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, Wow, incredible. So that's also to their episode. You

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 2>and I are going to have to follow up in

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's lots of yeah, lots of different ways we

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>could go.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So we talk about my.

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Ex partner on Dancing with the Stars, Ryan Lochtey. I

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>danced with that guy.

0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>You dance with everybody.

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I have twenty I guess I did twenty seven seasons.

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, I know.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, hence the retirement. My hips can no

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>longer hip.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I can even imagine. Tell me about Ryan, and tell

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>me about because now he's going through.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>So when I danced with him, he had just you know,

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. Obviously, we also had protesters that like came

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>onto the dance floor and we thought they had guns

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 1>and they were gonna blow our heads off.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 2>It was insanity.

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Like during the live show, I've never seen our security

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>guard shout out to David tackle somebody so quickly.

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>What was What was the scandal I'm sorry for my mate?

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Was the Olympics funeral?

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't even tell. I mean it was I don't

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>really know one hundred percent, and I don't want.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>He lied like he didn't or something.

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but he was also intoxicated, and I'm not making

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>any excuses he should not have lied. But if you

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>were to meet Ryan, he is very so. He's such

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a sweet man, he really is. He could not like

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>at first, I was like, oh great and getting another

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 1>controversial figure and this is gonna it's this guy just

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be lazy. No, he worked so hard and he

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is so vulnerable, and he just trusted me in the

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>process and for me as the best dance partner ever,

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what your dance ability is. If I

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like you as a person, I'm going to invest also

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so much into you.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, You've got to write a book.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You have got I did, I already, but in twenty eleven.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>We've got a chapter two coming up here soon because

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so there's so much to talk about.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I got to get your book. Wait, what's it called?

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, this was this is back in twenty eleven

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>before there was even audible, so this was called Dancing Lessons.

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.959
<v Speaker 1>How Dancing has shaped my life? But yeah, it's been.

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>It's been a whirlwind for sure. I mean, the show

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>has changed my life and it's been so amazing. And

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 1>with that though, has been so many life lessons, and

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>this one included with Ryan. He had just met Kayla

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>literally when we just started dancing, right, and then I

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>believe got her pregnant. Also during this season, I think,

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and look he was. He was absolutely in love with her.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>He he basically took me and step by step he goes,

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>this is how I'm gonna propose to her. This was

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>like week six of the competition, and he was so

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in love with her. And I just recently when I

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 1>had my Dancing with the Stars it's called Sex Sizes

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and spray Tands podcast. That's no longer happening, but he

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>was on and they seemed fine. So when I heard

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>about this, This was shocking right for me, that.

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 2>He has he has I guess he already has somebody

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>else that he's trying to.

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a common denominator here. Would you like

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to say it?

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes? You? Well, you say it? Yeah.

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not saying all men. I'm not saying

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>all men.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>But like, I think it's just the way we're made.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>You think that it's like that just men are not

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>made from coxy?

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what is the book called men are from mars?

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Women are? Right?

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I just think that's what it is like and and

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>some people can handle it and some people can't and

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't. So therefore I'm single.

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Right Listen, who knows what you're not going to? I again,

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>if I'm a bet and girl, you're not going to

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>be single forever.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm okay. I've never been so happy content in

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>my life. There's no drama.

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you will, but I feel like I was able

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 2>to get past. We were both able to get past

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the infantellity. You do know is very rare, but you

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>guys both admitted it right one hundred percent.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing when you don't take ownership and you

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>or you flip flop back and forth in guest light.

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>That's when I don't I can forgive the act of

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I know I can do that.

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 2>That's what happened with us. I mean, it was it

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was the It was an act. It wasn't a relationship.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I would have felt if it

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>had been a relationship, if it was yeah, yeah, and

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 2>then it was and then it was me And then

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 2>we both separated and we had we did have relationships

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and obviously came back together.

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>What was it that made you want to get back together?

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And how did it work out? Timing wise?

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 2>We just never wanted to get divorced like I would

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I always I tell the story on the show, But

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was seeing someone else, He was

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing someone else. It was just this absolute sadness like

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the kids. My daughter would call be like Daddy's being mean,

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:02.919
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you think that you're gonna call

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>me and complain about your father, Honey, you got the

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 2>wrong number? Okay, you are. You are blessed. And then

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>we would talk about separating and we I trusted him

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 2>so completely. I knew he wasn't gonna, you know, dick

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>me over, and I knew he wanted to get back together,

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would you know, we were both with other people,

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>and I would tell my boyfriend at the time, I'm

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 2>going to mediation, and I was like meeting my husband

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 2>at Chili's, Like, so.

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 3>You're cheating on your boyfriend with your husband.

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>It was just it was all interesting.

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean, do you think that that like

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing him with another woman and him seeing you with

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>another man? You know, you know, you don't know what

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you have till you lose it type thing like was

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it was it a clear comparison as to like you

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>should have never.

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 2>The other guy, the guy that I was involved with

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 2>was was very nice and very and and he was

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>involved with that she had a couple of like relationships

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>when we were separated. So I don't think it was

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 2>a matter of a matter of that. It was just

0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I just missed him. I missed him. Yeah, I mean

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>it's very rare you hear this.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, I know, I feel very very lucky. And

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 3>looking back.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>At it, you hold any resentment like for any of it.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I was a willing participant in what we do,

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 2>and even he so he was un faithful first, but

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I was also checked out in this way checked out,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 2>like just like I was, like the women in my

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 2>town we would all go out on Thursday nights and

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>like sport with guys even but I'm talking about a

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of married women at that time, and we go

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 2>out and we drink and we'd flirt, we get all

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 2>dressed up, and I think I was steps away from

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>it being me, son't.

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter first first first,

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, like you said earlier,

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it's deeper than all of the action, right, Like, it's

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>so much deeper. I love that you take accountability over

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>over your stuff. I think that is that you know

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot so therapy. I know that's the

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>only way to heal, you know.

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think still this day and then we'll wrap

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 2>it up about me is not about me, but we

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 2>feel both. I don't have any resembment because I think

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 2>we just both feel very lucky. It doesn't happen a

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>lot that you can find each other again.

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think holding yourself accountable, I can forgive anybody

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>that does this, like you know what I mean, Like

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it's bad.

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm very good at it, and I'm assuming he is too, right, Yes,

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>he certainly is he always was?

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So and Ryan of Ryan. I mean, look, currently

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Ryan is undermining Kayla as the mother of their children,

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>as on multiple occasions he has brought his pair more

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.720
<v Speaker 1>of only a couple months to the minor children's school

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to have lunch.

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but I don't know I would appreciate that

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I would lose my ship.

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And and Kayla seems too though she you know,

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I never really got a chance to know her as much,

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>but she seemed really sweet. He loved he definitely loved her.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But it was quick, this is what I mean. Like

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>they weren't dating like and I mean, look, I'm not

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>going to put societal expectations on people because I hate

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.439
<v Speaker 1>them myself. But when I tell you, they just met

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and then they fell into this like it was quit.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean within a span we didn't even make it

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to the finals. So what I'm saying is that, like

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>within a span of six weeks. Wow, right, So it

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>just moved fast. And this is why people say, take

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 1>your time.

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 2>If that happened to my daughter, no judgment, I suppose,

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 2>But if it's my daughter myself, I'm grabbing her by

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the hair and I'm like, I don't think so.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>But what if she was pregnant? What are you gonna do?

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. I think that's exactly what I

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>don't think so. I don't think so. But she wouldn't

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 2>listen to me anyways, she's you know.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna go try for some twins.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I would just be very weary as an her.

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Every I know, right, but we live and learn, and

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we can't control anybody. You don't control anyone, unfortunately, I've tried,

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so have I.

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>So have I.

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it sounds like she's pissed.

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 2>He Ryan unilaterally pulled the children from school after sending

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 2>him a message and then wouldn't answer. I guess he

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 2>said where are you? And she he was She said

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>where are you? And he wasn't answering or send Kayla

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 2>a message and said I'm pulling them out.

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean also, I think he cheated, right. I think

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>no one's saying this in this article, but like, I

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 1>think this started it, which is not good. It's not

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>okay and by the way, not good. But let's not forget, right, Like,

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>let's just not forget. This is not just happening randomly.

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>This is a reaction.

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>But also, you know what, like this is what I

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 2>always think that would be nice if you had some

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 2>respect for the marriage, if you had some respect for

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 2>like like you know.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But you think men think like that. I don't think

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:35.839
<v Speaker 1>you think like that.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think women, But I don't think a

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of times women do either, because the anger so

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming that you lose your Yes, you lose, you lose

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever you saw in the person originally that was good

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 2>and you as opposed to saying, listen, we had this

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>this sacred thing or this sacred time and and but

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 2>it's very rare, right.

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>That I think that I have an answer, Like I

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>have a solution is accountability and not ever veering away

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>from it, believe me. Like it's when you don't and

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you gaslight the other person, that's when you create rage.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think that if people in general people take accountability,

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like literally follow the twelve step program, it would make

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>this world we live in today so peaceful.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, no, said I'm thinking through. Like if you're

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>going through and you're so angry and the one party says.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like let's let me even if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go there, like let me just say how sorry

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<v Speaker 2>I am, you know, and how that would change the

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<v Speaker 2>whole dynamic and problem very quickly, right quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there'll be no wars happening right out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I swear, yes, I agree. Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and by the way, if it's just words, who

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<v Speaker 1>cares at that moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Like just do it? Just say it, like let your

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<v Speaker 2>guard down, farm the other person and then really like right,

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<v Speaker 2>find each other's humanity somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine that is they?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what we need to be running the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. So though, and Jensenslan Amen, Cheryl Burke

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<v Speaker 2>for president, baby, I'll be your sure, yeah, next lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>We have enough problems anyway. This is so great. I

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely loved every minute of it. I love talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're great. Me too, Me too. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it again. I could talk to you forever and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we will. We're friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it, Yes, we are friends. Now you're stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that our listeners, you know, found this not

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<v Speaker 2>only interesting, but maybe even a little insightful.

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<v Speaker 1>And therapeutic, like we're all human.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes from therapy girls. Amen? And while we don't wish

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<v Speaker 2>divorce or heartbreak on anyone. We want anyone at home

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<v Speaker 2>that might be going through it right now to know

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<v Speaker 2>that you are not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And in general, take accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>Take accountability. That's our message, that is our I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tattoo it on my forehead. I don't have a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like you either, like accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>Accountability is it's a long word though, but okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, you don't have any tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>None.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either. I don't like it, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm so happy I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am thinking about getting my ears periously. I

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<v Speaker 1>only have one whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Piers so I do I do I have?

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<v Speaker 1>I have one now? I had actually fun facts so

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<v Speaker 1>random in eighth grade. I was it was a dare

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<v Speaker 1>and I pierced my own ear but then closed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh yeah, I've never been into a lot of piercings,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of tattoos, none of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. My mom got her eyeliner tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>She regrets it. Oh I did do that. I did

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and now it's green and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go over for getting what absolutely true? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>no you listen. I mean, if you need some advice

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going through a difficult relationship ending, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to help, so call email us. All the infos in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes, follow us on socials. Make sure to

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio podcasts where falling in love is the main objective.

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<v Speaker 2>ERL Burke, I fallen in love a little with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah yah h