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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's I Do Part two and it's your

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Speaker 1: celebrity mentors.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl Burke and Jen Fessler. Hey girls, So there's so much.

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Speaker 1: Happening right now.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl, can I just say that, I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little starstruck. No, yes, not no, yes, I've been watching

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Speaker 2: you for so many years. It's just the most exciting

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Speaker 2: thing that this is. Like why I think like the

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Speaker 2: Whole Housewives of it all, not that it was fun

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Speaker 2: to do, but like this comes up always freaks me out.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that I'm talking with Cheryl Burke and

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Speaker 2: you're really cool for me.

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Speaker 1: You're so sweet. When are you going to be doing

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Speaker 1: Dancing with the.

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Speaker 2: Stars as soon? That's not true, I say, as soon

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Speaker 2: as they asked me. Never really, I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I could barely walk, so I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: Well, I could whip you into shape off camera.

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Speaker 2: I know you.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much happening in the headlines right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to kick it off.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the most heartbreaking thing that I've

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Speaker 2: read in quite some time. Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman

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Speaker 2: are getting divorced. I mean, this one hurt. This one's

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Speaker 2: stunk because first of all, I well, I really love

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Speaker 2: him and I love her. It's hard not to. But

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Speaker 2: just their relationship to me, the way he used to

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Speaker 2: like go to war shows and you'd be like, I

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Speaker 2: love you baby, whatever however he would say in his

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Speaker 2: Australian accent, And they were so affectionate right right. And

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Speaker 2: the war show it was almost like a little cringey

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Speaker 2: but it was just taller than him and and but

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Speaker 2: it just was so the whole thing to me was

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Speaker 2: so adorable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just overly affectionate, I think as a

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Speaker 1: I was kind of like, oh, is this is this real?

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Speaker 1: You know, like just because it was. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're used to seeing that, Especially with celebrity couples. They

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Speaker 1: do tend to you know, pull back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe oh well yeah or yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're not all over each other, you know

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Speaker 1: as much. I don't see that as much, right, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, I thought I bought into it as much as Yes,

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Speaker 2: there were times I was like, what is happening here?

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Speaker 2: Especially with him, he seemed like he seemed mesmerized with her,

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Speaker 2: which I mean, how could he not be, and especially

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Speaker 2: like on the Tales of the her first marriage, which

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Speaker 2: you know was so heartbreaking, so the tom Quis Cruise

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Speaker 2: and yeah, she'd found love, you know, the second time around,

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Speaker 2: and he was just another superstar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's a superstar in her own right, Oh, bigger.

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Speaker 2: Than both of them really this well, but yeah, she's.

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Speaker 1: Huge, She's huge. She seems really humble. She seems like

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Speaker 1: she's a good person, and I I mean, I've never

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Speaker 1: heard anything bad about Nicole Kidman on a personal level,

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Speaker 1: and that's always a good sign. And same with him,

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Speaker 3: Always the sweetest. If you did you watch on do

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Speaker 3: you watch the Voice?

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Speaker 1: I did not watch it with him on it, now.

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Speaker 2: Not the Voice American Idol, but he was he on

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Speaker 2: American Idol, Yeah, with Lionel Richie.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I had did not see that. I didn't

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Speaker 2: He was and so sweet and encouraging to the to

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Speaker 2: the contestants. Yeah, yes, did you see it coming? I

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Speaker 2: definitely didn't.

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Speaker 1: So I did do a little digging, as I do,

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Speaker 1: and I guess he you know, he's going through sobriety

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Speaker 1: or he I don't know if he's trying to be

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Speaker 1: there has been some sort of alcohol involvement when it

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Speaker 1: this is just per an article that I'm reading. This

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Speaker 1: is not anything that I know personally, but supposedly it

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Speaker 1: still moved forward with it, you know, and I'm sober,

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Speaker 1: so I've been sober for seven years now, and it,

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Speaker 1: you know, it does become that third person, your addiction

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Speaker 2: Also, I have no idea this factors into it, but

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Speaker 2: seems like just emotionally she's been going through it. I

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Speaker 1: Well, there's also some cheating allegations that I read as well.

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Speaker 3: I read that you're killing me really don't.

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Speaker 2: Shoot the messenger? Not wait who him or her?

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Speaker 1: Him? Oh, come on, he's supposedly actually currently seeing somebody.

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Speaker 2: So so funny people always say this, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you think about women like Nicole Kidman, you know, one

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Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't in the end, the physical maybe doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it matters, just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: No, But I mean it looks like they I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you can have at least this is what I'm reading,

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Speaker 2: they From what I'm reading, it looks like.

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Speaker 1: They're I think they've settled. It is it over? It's

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Speaker 2: They've settled.

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Speaker 1: As far as like properties go, they never had any

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Speaker 1: They never bought property together, even Nashville. And I don't

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Speaker 1: have already like split the furnit. I mean, they already

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Speaker 2: And the kids too, right, like they've already worked out

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Speaker 2: the kids this custody. He gets the kids on Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's all I read up to. Definitely

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Speaker 2: there's a lot less time than she does. It used

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Speaker 2: to be that just the mothers did get so much more,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that it's like that as much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the kids are not that young either, so

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they had to.

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Speaker 2: Say yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: And if they're in school, they're not going to want

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Speaker 1: to go to a new school in Nashville, and.

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Speaker 2: Even there, I think even like their Christmas vacations, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, and if he is with

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Speaker 1: they're not They're old enough to be bothered by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. Yeah, I mean I'm assuming they're

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Speaker 2: had to have been a prenup, which is which I

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Speaker 1: With that kind of wealth, well, I do believe that

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Speaker 1: because they're both successful, I think that eliminates quite a

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Speaker 1: lot of drama, right, Like they're not necessarily money hungry.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're both independently wealthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that helps a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, definitely, no one that fear that financial and

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Speaker 2: security and the fighting over the money is right, And.

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Speaker 1: We don't know where they got married or whatever, but

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Speaker 1: like in California, you know, like it is interesting. You

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Speaker 1: can cheat all you want. They don't care, right.

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Speaker 2: Don't either. I think it's not it's a no fault

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, no, they're trying to take the

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just reading some of the notes here,

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Speaker 2: no need it. It says both Kimen and Urban's monthly

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Speaker 2: But did he I feel like he talked about maybe

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Speaker 2: he didn't get sober, like a few years back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe he didn't get sober.

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Speaker 1: He talked about being sober, I guess, and in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, but see, this is when I had decided

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Speaker 1: to be sober. I just know that when I announce anything,

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Speaker 1: it's like then the pressure and the overwhelming anxiety I have.

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Speaker 2: To have to live to that.

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Speaker 1: Like so, I never told anyone about my not even

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Speaker 1: my ex husband at the time, Like, I just decided

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Speaker 2: Wow, did you do it with the through like AA

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Speaker 1: I didn't do AA right away. I first, Well, in

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Speaker 1: all transparency, I started. I stopped drinking as soon as

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Speaker 1: until you take accountability, until you want to change your life,

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Speaker 1: you can't change anybody, right like, period, point blank. If

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Speaker 1: there is built up presentment I think towards that person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I again, like they're being so hush

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what happened. Maybe, Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 2: makes sense. The cheating certainly makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And she wanted to work it out still though you

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Speaker 1: know she's like but clearly he's not. Yeah, I saw

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Speaker 1: that not wanting that. I think it helps when you

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Speaker 1: move on. I supposedly. I don't know, sorry, but.

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Speaker 2: I can't help it. Fucking Keith urban Man.

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Speaker 1: Come on, are you that shocked? Though, I'm not shocked

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Speaker 2: I'm rarely yeah, but I'm rarely shocked at these Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I really am. I guess I think like I always

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Speaker 1: That was the whole scientistic I don't think that I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was cuckoo. I mean my opinion,

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Speaker 2: and so what a nice thing to.

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Speaker 1: Find like right, like this, but it's not like she

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Speaker 1: didn't know about it, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the choice.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, I don't I try not

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Speaker 2: to judge, especially when I don't even know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. But the same friend him, Yeah, exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 2: here's what I think either, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean like and by the way, you know, we

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Speaker 1: all know that that's a rebound and how long do

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Speaker 1: rebounds last? Right, And that's going to be a direct

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Speaker 1: gives a chance to love, whether it doesn't matter who

435
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: it is.

436
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 2: Right right, right? She says the thing about like it

437
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: was the this the divorce is the best thing that

438
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: ever happened to her because it changed doubt that I

439
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: doubt it too. Let's be real here, she also just

440
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: got she just went through getting kind of like publicly slammed. Yes, yeah,

441
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: like just not being such a sweet per person. Yeah yeah,

442
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: So I mean I'm sure, I'm sure she has changed. Yeah,

443
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 2: I mean, and listen, he obviously has also had issues,

444
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: substance issues.

445
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: And exactly but like he keeps going running back home

446
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: to his ex.

447
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: If if I hadn't Jennifer Garner, I would be I

448
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: would too, exactly right.

449
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, she seems like a safe house for me

450
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: at least I kind of run home to her too.

451
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent would.

452
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Make me a warm meal and maybe feel all good

453
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: and warm inside.

454
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And when it when they first got divorced,

455
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: and I was like, what did you do?

456
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: But you know that's got to trigger the other Jennifer, Like,

457
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: come on, that's so triggering totally.

458
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: And you know she stills like sometimes hanging out with

459
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: the kids. I think that looks that seems messy to me.

460
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: She's mess sun out. Photo ops.

461
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: The photo is what kills me. I can't do the

462
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: photo ops. I agree, And unfortunately today you can see

463
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: when it's a photo up.

464
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you get everywhere and you see

465
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: it fast.

466
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, does it it rubs people the wrong way? Now,

467
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: like we all can see just like television, you can't lie,

468
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: whether it's your body language that you're not hiding or whatever.

469
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: It is Like for me, you could just see it

470
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: on my face no matter how much botox I had,

471
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,239
Speaker 1: right like, it didn't matter, like you can see it

472
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: and so like.

473
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: There was nothing that you can same thing with me,

474
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: of course with Ben also always specifically. I mean I

475
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: don't think I've seen I didn't see I haven't seen

476
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: Ben with her kids. I've just seen her with his.

477
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: Kids, which seems forced.

478
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, it feels it.

479
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels very messy to me, and I think

480
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: that maybe for the kids that would be confusing. But

481
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: they have Jennifer Garner for a mother who is not

482
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: because no one is, but gives the appearance to me

483
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: of being a perfect mother.

484
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, I mean she just seems like a

485
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: very normal which is which is not normal for us

486
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: to see. Agreed for Gardner is like she just seems

487
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: very normal. She doesn't care, she doesn't wear tons that

488
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: make she's not like, she doesn't care what she looks like.

489
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel this. I feel like that too.

490
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no way and she's still gorgeous.

491
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: She's even more beautiful.

492
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: Like during the.

493
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: Fires La fire, she was out there, she was getting dirty. Yep,

494
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't a photo op.

495
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I don't Ben. He does

496
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: seem like he keeps sort of showing up and wanting

497
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: to be with her. But when I was separated, I

498
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: was My life was such chaos and I remember just

499
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: feeling like my husband was, what are you doing, Jennifer,

500
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: Like he is your safe place? And I would you know,

501
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: we would, We didn't. It wasn't It wasn't that contentious. Well,

502
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: obviously because we got back together.

503
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: What happened if you don't mind me asking, like, no,

504
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: not at all.

505
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: Why did she split? We're cheated on each other, and

506
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: so that happened. But that's that was the actual impetus.

507
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: But of course I think it was seven years in

508
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: very cliche. We had two young kids and we were

509
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: just really not checking in, not really and arguing a

510
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: lot and feeling the stress of having a young family

511
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: and not taking just I think taking each other. For granted,

512
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: we always say that and then then add infidelity to that,

513
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: and you know it, it kind of fell apart. But

514
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: the thing is, I feel like maybe I, well maybe

515
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: we both felt like Ben in it because there was

516
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: just so much that I missed, and not just mostly

517
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: him my best friend, but also just that feeling of

518
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: peace because my husband is I'm nuts, I'm completely out

519
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: of my working mind and he.

520
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: Is solid, right balances to you, yes, yes.

521
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: And you know, it feels like Ben is definitely the

522
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: one who is who has erratic behavior. Garner seems so.

523
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I just what I was scared though I

524
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: don't know any of them, but with Jennifer Gardner, I

525
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: was like, please don't go back to him, like I

526
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: hope that. But clearly she's not just a beautiful woman

527
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: and smart. She's very strong, and she doesn't because she's

528
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: not getting back together with him, but she's definitely still

529
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: cordial obviously, yeah, maybe a little bit more than cordial.

530
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I think I think there's this thing when people are

531
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: really and I and I think this is where you

532
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: can see the beautiful side of humans, right. I believe

533
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: that when someone's at their lowest, you know, you hopefully

534
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: you have people who love you that will help you, right,

535
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: And I believe that if anything, it's more like she

536
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 1: feels maybe sorry for him.

537
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I feel like that's

538
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: it seems like that to me too.

539
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, the beauty of marriage, right.

540
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I wanted so badly to talk

541
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: to you about your marriage and divorce.

542
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: I can only say so much.

543
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll really, you are divorced.

544
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I am divorced, but we did sign a prenup.

545
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm and I'm not going to ask you, but

546
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: this is maybe not we're talking about, you know, because

547
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: but at some point I not not just out of curiosity,

548
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: but sounds it sounds like it was first of all,

549
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: very difficult, but it's so inspiring that you're sober.

550
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: And oh yeah it tested me.

551
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I bet it did, no doubt.

552
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I also, it wasn't just the divorce with

553
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: my ex. It was the divorce with Dancing with the

554
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: Stars all in one year, and then leaving my home

555
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: I lived in for sixteen years and I moved to

556
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: where I am today. So it's like it's just it

557
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: was all happening in one year, and those are three

558
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: big life changes. They say, if you hit five in

559
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: one year, you're most likely going to check into the

560
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: nearest mental institution.

561
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

562
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: That's just my personality. Let's just do it now. We

563
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: got to do it now.

564
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you have regrets about the way

565
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: it went down?

566
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: No, But to say that I haven't or still sometimes

567
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: greed would be a lie too. I think it can

568
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: be both, you know. I know that I need to

569
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: cut off basically both divorces in order for me to

570
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: be able to see what I see in the mirror

571
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: and actually like the person I see. Yeah, and I

572
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: think that though it happened quickly, this was not just

573
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: quickly quick decisions. This was stuff lingering inside of me

574
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: for many, many years.

575
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm guessing hoping therapy.

576
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been in therapy since I was since I

577
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: saw my dad with another woman when I was two.

578
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: So I haven't stopped.

579
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: I met two years and years and years. I can't

580
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: imagine life without No.

581
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: Even my parents are like, you're still in therapy. I'm like, hey, listen,

582
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: that generation, stop it, you know, Like, I don't think

583
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: there's I think when you think you're good is when

584
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: you need to go to therapy.

585
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, And even the days I had therapy

586
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: today and I was like, not in the mood, of course,

587
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: not right, it's work, And like even the days in

588
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: the mood, yeah, it's I need therapy. It's so cathartic.

589
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: When something actually happens in my week, I think, I

590
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: feel like, oh my god, I can't wait to get whatever.

591
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: A non biased opinion is. So it's vital. But also

592
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: to be able to build and create and save tools

593
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: of how you can deal or instead of react, respond

594
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: to something is something that money can't buy, right, Like

595
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: that's that is what I mean by like, it's like

596
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: physical health, Like people you can't just work out it

597
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: one day and think you're gonna stay whatever snatched or

598
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: get even snatched, not even close. It's all consistency. And

599
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: yet people are like it's too expensive to me when

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: you say that you don't want to invest in yourself,

601
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: like that to me is crazy.

602
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Especially now I feel like there's so many different.

603
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Chat GPTs killing it with a therapy supposedly. Really, oh yeah,

604
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

605
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: That's I don't know why. I feel like that's hard

606
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: for me, I can't imagine.

607
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: That's like I don't know as rezoom, but I need that.

608
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: I need her.

609
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: I need that human who is who I can see

610
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: on her face and she can see on mine.

611
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: I have to say that my therapist. I mean, you know,

612
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: there a lot of people are a little bit nervous

613
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: about it. But at the end, at the end of

614
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: the day, this is where we're heading, right, So like

615
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: we can't fight AI, so instead let's just see what

616
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: it can do. And you know, I remember my therapist

617
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: saying that she had a client who couldn't get a

618
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: hold of her one night and he used chat GBT

619
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: because he needed answers to it and it worked.

620
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of working and working on yourself, how about

621
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson.

622
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, she's creating a sexy lingerie line. She

623
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: looks fabulous.

624
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: I actually she got a little bit of blowback online.

625
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: I think about her. I understand right, well, I mean right,

626
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: people are just mean.

627
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, even even worse when you're actually it's like,

628
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, you gain weight, you get, you get and

629
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I I mean and I definitely experienced that when I

630
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: was on the show. Then you lose weight and I'm

631
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: experiencing it now where people are just so horribly mean,

632
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Like it's even.

633
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Worse people are mean to you. I mean, you're so

634
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: my god, you.

635
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: See to go on my tip, look at my Instagram,

636
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: like you just see comments. It's just actually I've stopped now.

637
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of therapy about it though, too.

638
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, I'm choosing to be in

639
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: this business, right, It's all a choice, and so therefore

640
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm such a people pleaser that

641
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: I want everyone to love me. But that's just not reality.

642
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Right, I've learned that the hard way, So right, I'll

643
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: do yeah, right. I mean, she looks she's so hot,

644
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: she always has been. I was also disappointed about that

645
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: when I heard about that separation. You little, I don't

646
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: know anything about him, but I thought she looked happy.

647
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: I mean I remember her back with Nick what's his name, lache? Yes,

648
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: but like she this guy, he was so handsome and

649
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: they have these dorable kids, and it's always like, what

650
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: but what do you know? Do you know anything about?

651
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: I just I just remember that she's sober now, so

652
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I think that again, you know, the alcohol was played

653
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: that third person that is never ends in a good way.

654
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: And because if you don't have control over it, right

655
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: then it's then it gets ugly sometimes.

656
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure, when did she get sober?

657
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: Do you now? Yeah?

658
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: A few years back she gets sober.

659
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well she's she's ready to start dating again.

660
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Good for her, and she's forty five. She looks great

661
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: and she won't have an issue with that. I mean,

662
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I will never do dating apps, so

663
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she would either.

664
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: Hard for you guys, but I think you guys celebrities

665
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: when it's time to start that process again.

666
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't done it so because it just

667
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: sounds is overwhelming. I'm just like that sounds horrible, right.

668
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I still think like the old fashioned way, like if

669
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: you have a friend, you know what I mean, Like

670
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: so that I believe is still out there.

671
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: I mean, how would you do dating apps?

672
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: It would be like I can't.

673
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: I just they do have to. They have like celebrity

674
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: ones or something. They have raya righte.

675
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: But again, I'm looking for something a little more deeper

676
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: than just going and swiping through what somebody looks like, right,

677
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: because if that was the case, I probably not even

678
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: end up with the right person, because I'm just judging

679
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: you by the cover.

680
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a huge That is a huge problem for

681
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: young people right now is that they are they are

682
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: not going out and having the face to face and

683
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: the pheromones, and it.

684
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Is it's affecting the mental health.

685
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: Yes. I read a lot about this, specifically with the

686
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: boys that they are. Yeah, and but they also don't

687
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: learn rejection, and they don't and you know, you have

688
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: to be.

689
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Able to eye contact, shake a hand, yeah, and then.

690
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: And then if you're rejected, it's okay, you go out

691
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: the next night and you or whatever it is. And

692
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: so yeah, social media, we can just go. That's a

693
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: whole other episode. But listen, she has got some apparently

694
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: she's very into Leopards. She's got some sexy lingerie. Listen.

695
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: She was a shoe maven. Look what she did with shoes.

696
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I have Jessica Simpson shoes. Do you so?

697
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Do I?

698
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Yes, they're great, They're actually really comfortable. She understood shed.

699
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: She definitely got the memo. With the platform and the stiletto,

700
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: you balance that out. You can run miles in them.

701
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I can't wear high heels and

702
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: we'll Actually, you have a shoe line I created for

703
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: this very reason. But even though even my own shoes

704
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: that are three heels. But do you have a platform.

705
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: I know a platform is huge. Nope, it's not a platform.

706
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes you don't want to wear platforms. They

707
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: look a little hookery.

708
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: I agree. I just think about the way you guys,

709
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: how your feet lasted from the years and years. I've

710
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: got pretty ass feet.

711
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody else, but my feet look like

712
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: I could be a foot model. And I think it's

713
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: because I never dance barefoot. I don't do that, really,

714
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: I can't. I came out of my mom's womb with

715
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: dances with three and a half inch stiletto heels. Like

716
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: my calves are sore if I don't wear heels so

717
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: because if shortened, yes, yes, that's unbelievable. But like I

718
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: but all these kids, you know, they're dancing barefoot, They're

719
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: dancing and sneakers like I can't. Like I was, I

720
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: just was trained in a different era.

721
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: Your whole body moves according to knowing.

722
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: Rights, Like how do you dance in and feel feminist?

723
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: It's just I can't do it. It's a whole thing.

724
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing interesting.

725
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listener, she's as good at lingerie as

726
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: gon Shoes or her team. Yes, yeah right, I mean

727
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: a lot of She talks about a lot of leopard,

728
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: she said. She she likes the even her furniture is leopard.

729
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: I think her grandmother. It's her own version of beige.

730
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about lingerie leopard. It's already kind of

731
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: racy as as it is. And by the way, it's

732
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: just a trend. We are soon going to be over

733
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: this animal print, I promise you.

734
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hope not, because I'm going to Bravocon

735
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: a few weeks and I bought this ridiculously expensive leopard

736
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: in Trasta.

737
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I love me adulta. I love a red and a

738
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: leopard always adult.

739
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I got you.

740
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: Watch the Charlie Sheen documentary. I did.

741
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: I have to. I'm dying too. It's so good. It's

742
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: so good. Round of applause for him.

743
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean I had to watch it because I just

744
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: loved him as a human being when I met him.

745
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 2: He's a good guy, really well, he seems it, even

746
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: when he was, you know, in his winning phase, in

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: the Wackadoudley phase. No, I still.

748
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: But it's just like I can relate to him, like

749
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: there is something very powerful and he does reveal quite

750
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: a lot of different things that I never knew about

751
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: him that makes me love him even more.

752
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know, it's funny watching it.

753
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Also the Denise Richards and him in the way that

754
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: she even I saw this clip where she talked about

755
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: how she had a feeling he had HIV before. Did

756
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: you see that. I mean, obviously the whole.

757
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: Thing, but I know Denise because she did Dancing with

758
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: the Stars, so yeah, and she's such a sweet soul too.

759
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: It's like and she still loves you can tell she

760
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: has so much love for him, Like she still gets

761
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: very emotional. And I think when she did dancing this

762
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: was at the height of when they split or they

763
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: had just split, and it was tough for her. You know,

764
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's just tough, Like the divorce is one thing,

765
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: and then starting something new and like having it take

766
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: up a lot of time is tough as well.

767
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: So I don't think she has so much love for

768
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: her her ex X. Yeah, her last X Aaron. I

769
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't either me neither just looks so horrible, right, It

770
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: looks really shady. I know he is on his part

771
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I mean, I don't know if you so,

772
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: if you didn't watch Beverly Hills the House, watch a

773
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit, there's that one. Well they

774
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: show the clip a lot where they're walking out of

775
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: this party and he says something about how he's going

776
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: to crush their holding hands, say another thing and I'll

777
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: crush your hand or something really scary. No, I hope

778
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: him not allegedly, but it's not really allegedly.

779
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: Was on Well, if it was on the show, but I.

780
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Hope, I don't know.

781
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: If that was exactly something about something violent.

782
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Well they can use that against him.

783
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was really and I'm sure that by the.

784
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: Way, who is this person, like obviously I don't know.

785
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know him. But

786
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: this is just a classic person that somebody marries who's

787
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: really famous and is known trying to, you know, be

788
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: set for life because of this. Supposedly she cheated or

789
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter though in California, right, it doesn't matter

790
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: if you cheated.

791
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: So, like what he's saying is rel I was wondering

792
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: about that because I think again in Jersey. It's like,

793
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: why because he's bringing in now all these witnesses.

794
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 3: To talk about the fact that she cheated. Why does it?

795
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter, right, So the judges is gonna

796
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: laugh in his face like he can say this all

797
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: he wants. It doesn't It's not the audience that's voting, right, Like,

798
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

799
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's bringing in so let's see.

800
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: He's bringing in. I don't know why. What's she well,

801
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Charlie and Brandy, I don't know how she's.

802
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Brandyrdy Glanville said that she had an affair with Denise Richards.

803
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was while she was married

804
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: and maybe I don't remember, but yes, that they I

805
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: think it was like a one night.

806
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Situationd married in California.

807
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know that and I don't

808
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: It might have been while she was married to this guy.

809
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: But apparently they had like a whole thing, and Brandy

810
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: claimed that Denise came on to her or something. Again,

811
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not misspeaking, but they had definitely, she

812
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: definitely said that they had an affair.

813
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: Well, I remember when this whole thing about her doing only.

814
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: Fans only fans only fans.

815
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what I should do. No, I'm kidding,

816
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: that's your feet. I do have some weirdos following me,

817
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: always asking me about my feet. It's the most weird

818
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: people have foot fetish.

819
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: That weird right there.

820
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean, no judgment, he's bringing in, No judgment, amen,

821
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: But who else is he he's bringing in?

822
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: But he would he would photograph her.

823
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: So there's a part of me that thinks that he

824
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: actually liked the fact that Brandy and her got together

825
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: at that at that point. If if that's what it

826
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: was now, I don't know. I think it's a bump.

827
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a stupid excuse. But if they did

828
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: get married in California, the judge is not going to

829
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: allow for these people to even step onto the stand

830
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: here because it's irrelevant, right.

831
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter exactly. I think that, let's see, he had

832
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: actually a restraining order against it, So I think he's

833
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: he is f U c k ed. Yes, Yes, I

834
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: wonder and listen. I can only hope that there was

835
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: a prenup. I can't imagine in this day.

836
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: And age, I would hope. So I hope she definitely.

837
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have signed it though,

838
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, you never know, and I don't know.

839
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: I think sometimes well.

840
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Especially when you're doing it, when you when you the

841
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: woman is doing it, you know.

842
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: And when you fall madly in love. I think a

843
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: lot of women make that mistake.

844
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: But you would think Denise would learn her lesson. She's smart.

845
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: She's a smart woman, yes she is. But if he is,

846
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: like sometimes when you're in a relationship, it gets foggy.

847
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: This one is. This one is scary. It is scary.

848
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: It's every red flags everywhere, right, So not good. I

849
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: just hope she's safe. That's all that really matters at

850
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: the end of the day.

851
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: And he violated the restraining order. That's scary. Yeah, it is.

852
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: He's he's not going to win this. I can almost

853
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: bet my right ass cheek and.

854
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: What can it? Was he their kids though, are not

855
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: The two daughters are Charlie's and then she has an

856
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: adopted daughter. I don't know if he's.

857
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: He's got kids too. I think a it is like

858
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: two girls. I think.

859
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: So he's calling in all these witnesses. Have you ever

860
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: been like, you've ever done anything like that?

861
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I was, I was definitely testified

862
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: against my molester when I was nine. But that's as

863
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: far as I that's as far nothing to do with

864
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: as an adults.

865
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Know. I have to take a beat. I'm so sorry

866
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: that that happened to you.

867
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: It's so casual for me because I've said it publicly

868
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: so many times.

869
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

870
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I know you don't know, so thank you.

871
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: Don't be sorry, I'm I'm sorry.

872
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: And how horrible, how horrible. So yeah, this one, that

873
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: one is not good, not that any of them are good,

874
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: but particularly scary sounds like to me.

875
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: It just doesn't sound. I mean the fact that you

876
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: when anyone files a restraining order, that's definitely not that

877
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: that is a sign to the outside world that you know,

878
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: she may not be safe.

879
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: Agreed.

880
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: So I hope she has really good friends and I

881
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: and I hope that she feels safe wherever she is.

882
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: You know, you have the secret wish that maybe that

883
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: like her and Charlie will come.

884
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't. It's kind of it's kind of like Jennifer

885
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Gardner and Ben. I just want them to be good

886
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: friends because I don't I believe that they're just first

887
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: of all, I mean, I think Charlie's he has been sober,

888
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: but still, I just there's so many skeletons. They're an

889
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: ex for a reason. Believe me, I married in my ex,

890
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: so he split for like ten years and then we reunited.

891
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: It's just like they're an x for a reason. Though

892
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: I still have I wish him all like the best again,

893
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: it's just not like, why go back, Let's move forward,

894
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: except in your case it seems to work.

895
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: You. Thank you. I'm glad to see that he's come

896
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: out of that wild time in life that he led.

897
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean, an addiction is scary, it's a disease. Think

898
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: about Matthew Ferry all the time, and you know, I

899
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: think he talks about I'm not sure. I saw him

900
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: also on Bill Maher. I feel like he was talking

901
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: about miracle that he's alive.

902
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah no.

903
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: But the amount if I watched.

904
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: This documentary twice because it was just so good and

905
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: it was eye opening, and I just wanted to make

906
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: sure I hung on, like I just wanted to make

907
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: sure I saw everything because what he revealed with the amount,

908
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, his drug dealer was on this documentary, like

909
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: saying he couldn't believe how much he was doing as

910
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: far as drugs go and that he every single day

911
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: he would wake up wondering if he was still alive,

912
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: and he would go for weeks binge for a week,

913
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: like weeks upon weeks upon weeks, and this guy never stopped.

914
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's still alive is just a miracle.

915
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: When I did see him on Bill Maher, he's also

916
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: he's very eloquent, he's very self deprecating. He's just so likable.

917
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: Oh he is. But whatever, his life changing is hard, right,

918
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: Like you're not comfortable when you're making life changes.

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: Right, Wow, incredible. So that's also to their episode. You

920
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: and I are going to have to follow up in

921
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: a lot.

922
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh there's lots of yeah, lots of different ways we

923
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: could go.

924
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: So we talk about my.

925
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Ex partner on Dancing with the Stars, Ryan Lochtey. I

926
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: danced with that guy.

927
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: You dance with everybody.

928
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: I have twenty I guess I did twenty seven seasons.

929
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I know.

930
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, hence the retirement. My hips can no

931
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: longer hip.

932
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: I can even imagine. Tell me about Ryan, and tell

933
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: me about because now he's going through.

934
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: So when I danced with him, he had just you know,

935
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Obviously, we also had protesters that like came

936
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: onto the dance floor and we thought they had guns

937
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: and they were gonna blow our heads off.

938
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: It was insanity.

939
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Like during the live show, I've never seen our security

940
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: guard shout out to David tackle somebody so quickly.

941
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: What was What was the scandal I'm sorry for my mate?

942
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: Was the Olympics funeral?

943
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I can't even tell. I mean it was I don't

944
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: really know one hundred percent, and I don't want.

945
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: He lied like he didn't or something.

946
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Yes, but he was also intoxicated, and I'm not making

947
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: any excuses he should not have lied. But if you

948
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: were to meet Ryan, he is very so. He's such

949
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: a sweet man, he really is. He could not like

950
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: at first, I was like, oh great and getting another

951
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: controversial figure and this is gonna it's this guy just

952
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna be lazy. No, he worked so hard and he

953
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: is so vulnerable, and he just trusted me in the

954
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: process and for me as the best dance partner ever,

955
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't care what your dance ability is. If I

956
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: like you as a person, I'm going to invest also

957
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: so much into you.

958
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: Right, You've got to write a book.

959
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: You have got I did, I already, but in twenty eleven.

960
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: We've got a chapter two coming up here soon because

961
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: it's so there's so much to talk about.

962
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: I got to get your book. Wait, what's it called?

963
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: Well, no, this was this is back in twenty eleven

964
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: before there was even audible, so this was called Dancing Lessons.

965
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 1: How Dancing has shaped my life? But yeah, it's been.

966
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: It's been a whirlwind for sure. I mean, the show

967
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: has changed my life and it's been so amazing. And

968
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: with that though, has been so many life lessons, and

969
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: this one included with Ryan. He had just met Kayla

970
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: literally when we just started dancing, right, and then I

971
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: believe got her pregnant. Also during this season, I think,

972
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: and look he was. He was absolutely in love with her.

973
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: He he basically took me and step by step he goes,

974
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: this is how I'm gonna propose to her. This was

975
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: like week six of the competition, and he was so

976
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: in love with her. And I just recently when I

977
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: had my Dancing with the Stars it's called Sex Sizes

978
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: and spray Tands podcast. That's no longer happening, but he

979
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: was on and they seemed fine. So when I heard

980
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: about this, This was shocking right for me, that.

981
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: He has he has I guess he already has somebody

982
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: else that he's trying to.

983
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a common denominator here. Would you like

984
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: to say it?

985
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Yes? You? Well, you say it? Yeah.

986
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not saying all men. I'm not saying

987
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: all men.

988
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: But like, I think it's just the way we're made.

989
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: You think that it's like that just men are not

990
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: made from coxy?

991
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what is the book called men are from mars?

992
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: Women are? Right?

993
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: I just think that's what it is like and and

994
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: some people can handle it and some people can't and

995
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: I can't. So therefore I'm single.

996
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: Right Listen, who knows what you're not going to? I again,

997
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: if I'm a bet and girl, you're not going to

998
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: be single forever.

999
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: But I'm okay. I've never been so happy content in

1000
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: my life. There's no drama.

1001
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: Maybe you will, but I feel like I was able

1002
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: to get past. We were both able to get past

1003
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: the infantellity. You do know is very rare, but you

1004
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: guys both admitted it right one hundred percent.

1005
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: That's the thing when you don't take ownership and you

1006
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: or you flip flop back and forth in guest light.

1007
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: That's when I don't I can forgive the act of

1008
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I know I can do that.

1009
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: That's what happened with us. I mean, it was it

1010
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: was the It was an act. It wasn't a relationship.

1011
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how I would have felt if it

1012
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: had been a relationship, if it was yeah, yeah, and

1013
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: then it was and then it was me And then

1014
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: we both separated and we had we did have relationships

1015
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: and obviously came back together.

1016
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: What was it that made you want to get back together?

1017
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: And how did it work out? Timing wise?

1018
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: We just never wanted to get divorced like I would

1019
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: I always I tell the story on the show, But

1020
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: I was like I was seeing someone else, He was

1021
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: seeing someone else. It was just this absolute sadness like

1022
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: the kids. My daughter would call be like Daddy's being mean,

1023
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 2: and I was like, you think that you're gonna call

1024
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: me and complain about your father, Honey, you got the

1025
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: wrong number? Okay, you are. You are blessed. And then

1026
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: we would talk about separating and we I trusted him

1027
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: so completely. I knew he wasn't gonna, you know, dick

1028
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: me over, and I knew he wanted to get back together,

1029
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: and I would you know, we were both with other people,

1030
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: and I would tell my boyfriend at the time, I'm

1031
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: going to mediation, and I was like meeting my husband

1032
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: at Chili's, Like, so.

1033
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: You're cheating on your boyfriend with your husband.

1034
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: It was just it was all interesting.

1035
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, do you think that that like

1036
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: seeing him with another woman and him seeing you with

1037
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: another man? You know, you know, you don't know what

1038
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: you have till you lose it type thing like was

1039
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: it was it a clear comparison as to like you

1040
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: should have never.

1041
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: The other guy, the guy that I was involved with

1042
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: was was very nice and very and and he was

1043
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: involved with that she had a couple of like relationships

1044
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: when we were separated. So I don't think it was

1045
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: a matter of a matter of that. It was just

1046
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: I just missed him. I missed him. Yeah, I mean

1047
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: it's very rare you hear this.

1048
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: You know, I know, I feel very very lucky. And

1049
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: looking back.

1050
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: At it, you hold any resentment like for any of it.

1051
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: No, I was a willing participant in what we do,

1052
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: and even he so he was un faithful first, but

1053
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: I was also checked out in this way checked out,

1054
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: like just like I was, like the women in my

1055
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: town we would all go out on Thursday nights and

1056
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: like sport with guys even but I'm talking about a

1057
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: lot of married women at that time, and we go

1058
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: out and we drink and we'd flirt, we get all

1059
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: dressed up, and I think I was steps away from

1060
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: it being me, son't.

1061
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter first first first,

1062
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like you said earlier,

1063
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: it's deeper than all of the action, right, Like, it's

1064
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: so much deeper. I love that you take accountability over

1065
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: over your stuff. I think that is that you know

1066
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: it takes a lot so therapy. I know that's the

1067
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: only way to heal, you know.

1068
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think still this day and then we'll wrap

1069
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: it up about me is not about me, but we

1070
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: feel both. I don't have any resembment because I think

1071
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: we just both feel very lucky. It doesn't happen a

1072
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: lot that you can find each other again.

1073
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: But I think holding yourself accountable, I can forgive anybody

1074
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: that does this, like you know what I mean, Like

1075
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: it's bad.

1076
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm very good at it, and I'm assuming he is too, right, Yes,

1077
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: he certainly is he always was?

1078
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? So and Ryan of Ryan. I mean, look, currently

1079
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: Ryan is undermining Kayla as the mother of their children,

1080
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: as on multiple occasions he has brought his pair more

1081
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: of only a couple months to the minor children's school

1082
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: to have lunch.

1083
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: I guess, but I don't know I would appreciate that

1084
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: I would lose my ship.

1085
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: Yes, And and Kayla seems too though she you know,

1086
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Speaker 1: I never really got a chance to know her as much,

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Speaker 1: but she seemed really sweet. He loved he definitely loved her.

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Speaker 1: But it was quick, this is what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: they weren't dating like and I mean, look, I'm not

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00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: going to put societal expectations on people because I hate

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Speaker 1: them myself. But when I tell you, they just met

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Speaker 1: and then they fell into this like it was quit.

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Speaker 1: I mean within a span we didn't even make it

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Speaker 1: to the finals. So what I'm saying is that, like

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00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: within a span of six weeks. Wow, right, So it

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Speaker 1: just moved fast. And this is why people say, take

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Speaker 1: your time.

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Speaker 2: If that happened to my daughter, no judgment, I suppose,

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Speaker 2: But if it's my daughter myself, I'm grabbing her by

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Speaker 2: the hair and I'm like, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But what if she was pregnant? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think that's exactly what I

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00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think so. But she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: listen to me anyways, she's you know.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna go try for some twins.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would just be very weary as an her.

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Speaker 1: Every I know, right, but we live and learn, and

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00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: we can't control anybody. You don't control anyone, unfortunately, I've tried,

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Speaker 1: so have I.

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00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: So have I.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it sounds like she's pissed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He Ryan unilaterally pulled the children from school after sending

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Speaker 2: him a message and then wouldn't answer. I guess he

1116
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: said where are you? And she he was She said

1117
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: where are you? And he wasn't answering or send Kayla

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00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 2: a message and said I'm pulling them out.

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Speaker 1: I mean also, I think he cheated, right. I think

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00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: no one's saying this in this article, but like, I

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00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: think this started it, which is not good. It's not

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: okay and by the way, not good. But let's not forget, right, Like,

1123
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: let's just not forget. This is not just happening randomly.

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00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: This is a reaction.

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Speaker 2: But also, you know what, like this is what I

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00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: always think that would be nice if you had some

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00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: respect for the marriage, if you had some respect for

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Speaker 2: like like you know.

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Speaker 1: But you think men think like that. I don't think

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00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: you think like that.

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00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: I agree, I think women, But I don't think a

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00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: lot of times women do either, because the anger so

1133
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: overwhelming that you lose your Yes, you lose, you lose

1134
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: whatever you saw in the person originally that was good

1135
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: and you as opposed to saying, listen, we had this

1136
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: this sacred thing or this sacred time and and but

1137
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: it's very rare, right.

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00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: That I think that I have an answer, Like I

1139
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: have a solution is accountability and not ever veering away

1140
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: from it, believe me. Like it's when you don't and

1141
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: you gaslight the other person, that's when you create rage.

1142
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: And I think that if people in general people take accountability,

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00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: like literally follow the twelve step program, it would make

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00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: this world we live in today so peaceful.

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, said I'm thinking through. Like if you're

1146
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: going through and you're so angry and the one party says.

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00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm so sorry.

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00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: Yes, like let's let me even if you don't want

1149
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: to go there, like let me just say how sorry

1150
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: I am, you know, and how that would change the

1151
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: whole dynamic and problem very quickly, right quick?

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00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there'll be no wars happening right out,

1153
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, I swear, yes, I agree. Can you imagine?

1154
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Like and by the way, if it's just words, who

1155
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: cares at that moment?

1156
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: Like just do it? Just say it, like let your

1157
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: guard down, farm the other person and then really like right,

1158
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: find each other's humanity somehow.

1159
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that is they?

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Speaker 2: You know what we need to be running the world.

1161
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: That's the thing. So though, and Jensenslan Amen, Cheryl Burke

1162
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: for president, baby, I'll be your sure, yeah, next lifetime.

1163
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: We have enough problems anyway. This is so great. I

1164
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: absolutely loved every minute of it. I love talking to you.

1165
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: You're great. Me too, Me too. We're going to do

1166
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: it again. I could talk to you forever and maybe

1167
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: we will. We're friends.

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Let's do it, Yes, we are friends. Now you're stuck

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 2: I hope that our listeners, you know, found this not

1171
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: only interesting, but maybe even a little insightful.

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00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: And therapeutic, like we're all human.

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00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: Yes from therapy girls. Amen? And while we don't wish

1174
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: divorce or heartbreak on anyone. We want anyone at home

1175
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: that might be going through it right now to know

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00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: that you are not alone.

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Speaker 1: And in general, take accountability.

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Speaker 2: Take accountability. That's our message, that is our I'm going

1179
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: to tattoo it on my forehead. I don't have a tattoo.

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Speaker 2: I'd like it.

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00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: I like you either, like accountability.

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00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: Accountability is it's a long word though, but okay.

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00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you don't have any tattoos.

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Speaker 1: None.

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Speaker 2: Love that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want one.

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't like it, and I'm like.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm so happy I don't have one.

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Speaker 2: Yep, me too.

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Speaker 1: But I am thinking about getting my ears periously. I

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Speaker 1: only have one whole.

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Speaker 2: Piers so I do I do I have?

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Speaker 1: I have one now? I had actually fun facts so

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00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: random in eighth grade. I was it was a dare

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: and I pierced my own ear but then closed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah, I've never been into a lot of piercings,

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Speaker 2: a lot of tattoos, none of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. My mom got her eyeliner tattoos.

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Speaker 2: She regrets it. Oh I did do that. I did

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Speaker 2: do that, and now it's green and I have to

1201
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: go over for getting what absolutely true? Oh my god,

1202
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: no you listen. I mean, if you need some advice

1203
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: and you're going through a difficult relationship ending, we want

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: to help, so call email us. All the infos in

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Speaker 2: the show notes, follow us on socials. Make sure to

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Speaker 2: ERL Burke, I fallen in love a little with you today.

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Speaker 1: I love you, I thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yah yah h