1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's our one on this Wednesday. Oh, we've 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: been celebrating all night long. The Knicks won the Cup. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: Todd's got his nixt gear on. The Knicks win the 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: Cup and they beat the Spurs. No word on the 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: parade in New York City, And when the banner will 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: be raised? I do have a question, though, like an honest, 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: legitimate question. Will the Knicks raise a cup banner? Did 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the other teams? Did the Lakers didn't? 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: I think we had Barkley on and I and Barkley 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: was saying they better not raise a banner. Did they? Marvin? Yes, 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: I think they have a small banner. 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: So the Knicks, you do it? 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't had any banners go up there in 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: a long long time. Yes, Tom, I. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: Think you raise a cup like at a staff dinner 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: to celebrate with Champayne, and that's the cup you raised, 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: but not actual thing hanging from the rafters. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: I think the Nicks will probably raise a banner. But 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: the Lakers did raise a banner. Huh Yeah, Paul. 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Confirmed twenty twenty three. Never forget Lakers embrace in 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: season tournament with banner ceremony. It's not the biggest banner, 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: but it's a very becoming okay becoming. 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: It's gorgeous. It's like black and gold. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: Okay, well purple the Emirates. Yeah yeah, but they did win. Now, 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: I know we've joked about the Cup most of the morning, 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: having fun with it. But this is what will be 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: lost on people, I think, and that is focusing on 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: the Spurs because they need to play in meaningful games. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: That's a very young roster and I think this is 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: something that can help them later on this season. I 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: don't think that they're a threat to win the NBA Finals, 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: but get in the playoffs and play with some meaningful games. 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: You know Stefan Castle who played well, Wemby's coming off 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: the bench, they got Dylan Harper, like, they have some 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: pieces there. But they're young and they need to play 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: in meaningful games. And this is as close as they'll 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: play in meaningful games now. They did beat the Thunder 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: the other night, and you know that caught people's attention. Here. 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you look at them and 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: they're not the one of these years, they're going to 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: be a pretty good team. They might be ahead of 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: schedule here, and that's what I was taking away from 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: this game. You're playing for something. You're playing for a cup, 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: but you're playing for money as well, for you know, 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: the guys on your team that don't make a lot 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: of money, and that can be impactful. The spotlight a 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: little brighter there and maybe the Spurs pick up some 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: much needed experience that can help them down the road. Polly, 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: So you're saying. 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: The three four years from now when they're in front 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: of the posto this year when Benyama is holding the 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: NBA title and he's like, how did this all start? 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: You know, it was all went back to the cup 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: that lost. The Knicks lit the fire. 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: See once again, you're mocking this. 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: You're doing a lot of mocking. 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Sure the Spurs side of this, Okay, the Knicks, I am, yeah, 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: go New York, Go New York. Go right, Todd, go 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: New York. 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: O New York. 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: Were the Knicks that we're doing it for the Kicks. We' 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: hitting three pointers and you're putting up bricks. 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But 82 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: Meet Friday courtesy of our partners from Heartland Steak CEO. 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: You go to the website Heartland steakco dot com and 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: you can get some great gift ideas for the holidays. 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, Yeah, I want to go back to the 86 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: Knicks for a second. I was looking at the standings. 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: They're eighteen and seven, but they've outscored their opponents by 88 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: nine points a game. That's the best in the East 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: this year. Detroit is young, the Raptors are good ish, 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: the Celtics are injured in the recent twenty years. This 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: might be their best chance to make the finals. Oh yeah, yeah, 92 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: absolutely yeah. 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: All four previous teams to reach the NBA Cup Championship Game, 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: the Lakers, Pacers, Bucks, Thunder, they all qualified for the 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs in each of the previous two seasons. The 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: team that lost the Cup Championship game advanced further in 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: the postseason than the team that won the Cup. So 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: whoa Shadow of the Day brought to you by Benini Ammerica. Yes, Marvin, 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: they had nothing left after they won the Cup. They 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: spent exhausted. See, you guys are mocking. I'm trying to 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: look at the positive here. I don't want the commissioner 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: mad at me. It seems like he's upset with everybody 103 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: but Amazon Prime carrying this. He had this to say 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: last night. 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 5: As a fan, I think you do a great job 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: educating you know, other fans about the game, because that, 107 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 5: I would say, has frustrated me in the past about 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 5: some coverage when it sort of reduced to one side 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 5: wanted it more this I played harder. I mean, when 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 5: you guys are explained like why can't a guy get 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: a shot off? Why is a particular defense working? And 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: when you go and when you guys go out on 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 5: the floor and demonstrate things. I can say as a fan, 114 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: I love that part of the coverage. 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: I think he's taking a shot at Charles Barkley. I 116 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: don't like it because Charles said it was I think stupid. 117 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Maybe that was the word he used. 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 6: Yes, eton Well, Charles isn't necessarily wrong, except the only 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 6: problem with it is there's nothing unique about the in 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 6: season tournament. 121 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: Oh oh wait a minute, I got Charles called it embarrassing, 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: not stupid. 123 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, well I don't know if it's embarrassing, but 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 6: they the idea is correct, the infrastructure in order to 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 6: accomplish the idea is incorrect. 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 127 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: Tweaks would you have with this? 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 6: Well, this is basically taking like a page from soccer. 129 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: Soccer has all of these in season tournaments, right like 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: in England they have the f A Cup, they have 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 6: the Carabout Cup. Those are different one of them. It's 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: every team within the pyramid plays against each other, so 133 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: it's special. Another one, it's only like the top four 134 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: or five leagues. They play against each other, so it's special. 135 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: This is an NBA tournament of NBA teams playing other 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 6: NBA teams in the NBA season. There's nothing unique about 137 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 6: it whatsoever. If you had G League teams in there, 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 6: and you had some D one teams or something and 139 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 6: be like, whoa, this is special. This is really something. 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 6: Now we got something, But we don't have that. In 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 6: the United States. We have the US Open Cup. That's 142 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 6: basically every soccer league in the country for the most part, 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 6: all get together and play in this one cup. 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: The USL Cup is every USL. 145 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 6: League playing against each other, or most of the USL 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: leagues playing against each other. There's not If it was 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 6: just the MLS Cup and it was only MLS teams 148 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: playing against each other, then that would just be called 149 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 6: a regular season. There's nothing about that. This is all 150 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: just a regular season. You need to get something else, 151 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 6: get put European teams in there or something. You need 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 6: to make it different. 153 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, po I. 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: Totally agree with seedon it feels like forced relevance. It's 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: somewhat early in the season. If you didn't change the 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: color of the courts, you would think it's a generally 157 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: just a regular season game. Almost all the games also 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: count in the regular season standings, so they're like double 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: dipping at the final felt a bit special because we're 160 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: told it was. 161 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like we're force fed, Like, what's wrong 162 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: with you? Don't you understand you should be really hyping 163 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: this up. We haven't been hyping it up. I don't 164 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: even know if I mentioned who was in the finals yesterday, Yes. 165 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 6: It should mean something because, like you know, if there's 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: a trophy at stake, then you should want to win it. 167 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: So let's go win it. 168 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 6: There's just nothing unique about it other than grouping together 169 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,239 Speaker 6: some games and then calling it a competition. 170 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: Chase Daniel from the Mothership. He'll join us, coming up 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: in about ten minutes. Robert Griffin Junior third a little 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: later on, Reggie Miller stops by. Tony Gonzalez will join 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: us as well. Well. You have Davante Adams if he 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 2: for Thursday, and it felt like this was going to 175 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: be a game time decision. That's what Sean McVay said. 176 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: The Commanders have shut down Jade and Daniels and they 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: know what they have in Jayden Daniels, and you know 178 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: he's getting banged up. I don't think anybody's surprised that 179 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: with that build, was he going to get banged up? 180 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: And the answer is yes. Meanwhile, Jackson Dart will continue 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: to play for the Giants because they don't know what 182 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: they have in Jackson Dart and I don't know. And 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: I want to talk to RG three and even Chase Daniel. 184 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can ask somebody to change. 185 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: I never understood this philosophy with NFL teams. If you're 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: really successful in college and you run the ball and 187 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: you also pass, but you know one of your strengths 188 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: is you run the ball, because Lamar Jackson did that 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: at Louisville and then people wondered, well, can he throw 190 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: the football? He's got to learn how to play in 191 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: the pocket. Well yes, but I don't want him to 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: stop up running. Cam Newton, I don't want him to 193 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: stop running. I want them to run smartly. And you're 194 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: going to ask Jackson Dart, can you change? And you 195 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: know these guys go by instinct that you know, they're 196 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: just like a natural reaction time with something you can't 197 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: go wait, wait, what am I supposed to do? Now? 198 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: You would think slider, get out of bounds. You should 199 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: be able to think on your feet. And I don't 200 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: know if Jackson Dart wants to change. I don't know 201 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: if he can change because this is his whole mindset. 202 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: This is an aggressive football player who plays a position 203 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: where you normally don't have aggression. Josh Allen is as 204 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: big as anybody on the football field. I don't worry 205 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: about him. But he also slides. He also plays smarter 206 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: than he used to. Mahomes. You know he's on the move, 207 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: but I think because he has to be on the move, 208 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: And then you wonder is he going to be using 209 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: his legs able to use his legs when he comes 210 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: back from this surgery. I don't want you know, Kyler 211 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: Murray is who he is, but I don't want him 212 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: to change his style. I want him to change his approach. 213 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: But I can't say to Kyler Murray, don't use your legs, 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: or Josh Allen, don't use your legs. Lamar Jackson, don't 215 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: use your legs. This is what made you great, This 216 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: is why we took you with a you know, high 217 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: draft pick. And with Jackson Dart, I don't know if 218 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: you can say to him, we love the aggression, but 219 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: let's live to you know, have another play because you 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: can't be in concussion protocol. And what's he played ten 221 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: games and I think five times they've had him in 222 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: the blue tent. You know, that's a habit. That's the 223 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: problem I have with Jackson Dart. You can play with aggression, 224 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: you can, you know, you can have that energy there, 225 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: but do not take on defensive players. You know, if 226 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: it means the Super Bowls on the line and you're 227 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: going to dive into the end zone John Elway doing 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: the helicopter, Okay, I mean even go back to Carson 229 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Wentz in that game against the Rams. Did he need 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: to dive into the end zone and then get his 231 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: knee blown out? No? So you're asking these guys, hey, 232 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: I used to do that or I did that in 233 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: high school, I did that in college. Why can't I 234 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: do it now? Because it's the NFL? And with Jackson Dart, 235 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: he's got three more games, you know, now is when 236 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: you start to find out. You know, Cleveland's going to 237 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: find out about Shad Or Sanders. These next three games 238 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: going to find out is he a franchise quarterback, because 239 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: that'll be a pretty good sample size and they probably 240 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: have already made up their mind of are they going 241 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to take a quarterback high in the draft, but maybe 242 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: should Or Sanders can show them, hey, I can be 243 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback or some other team might look look 244 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: at that. So you got some players who are playing 245 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: for things, and it might not be playing for their team. 246 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: It could be let me showcase my talent. I wouldn't 247 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: be surprised if Cleveland goes all in on a quarterback 248 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: and shad Or Sanders is not going to be the 249 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Browns quarterback like that, that wouldn't surprise me at all. 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: I think he's shown glimpses. Dylan Gabriel is not a 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. You know, there's certain guys that they just 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: come in and they get an opportunity, maybe they get 253 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: recycled and then maybe they prove in three years or 254 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: four years they can play. But you got three games, 255 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: like the Bengals are really interesting with Joe Burrow. I 256 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: mean they're playing the Dolphins. I don't know which Joe 257 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: Burrow and the Bengals will show up. I mean they 258 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: got embarrassed against the Ravens. That's a no show and 259 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: that would really concern me. You know another thing that 260 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: I saw with the Cleveland Browns against the Bears, the 261 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: number of guys who didn't play in that game for 262 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: the Browns felt like it's cold. I don't want to play. 263 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: And I talked to a former NFL executive yesterday and 264 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: he laughed about it. He said, this feels like this 265 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: is too cold, and I I don't know if I 266 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: want to go out there. Ah man, I'm not feeling 267 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: as healthy as possible. I said, well, they do play 268 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, and he said, well, there's Cleveland cold and 269 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: then there's Chicago cold. And I thought, okay, so maybe 270 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: you made a business decision of I don't want to 271 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: go out there and play in this weather. All right, 272 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: we'll get a poll question and we'll get to your 273 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: phone calls once again. Heartland steakco dot com. You can 274 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: go there and you can check out the website all 275 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: the great specials that they offer. 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He'll be on the call for 298 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: the Independence Bowl Coastal Carolina, Louisiana Tech that'll be December 299 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: thirtieth on the Mothership and he'll also be in the 300 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: radio booth for the Orange Bowl College Football playoff quarterfinal 301 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: on New Year's Day. Good to talk to you. Of 302 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: all the tape you've been breaking down, give me the 303 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: one that stood out good or bad? 304 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's two in my opinion. 305 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 8: The first one is Josh Allen and just what he's 306 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 8: been able to do with so much less, And that 307 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 8: was sort of the MVP conversation last year. And you 308 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 8: break it down, the first half was awful. The Bills 309 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 8: couldn't move the ball at all. The Patriots had him 310 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 8: figured out. Bills defensively looked bad. And then you just 311 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 8: turn on the second half and they rolled. And it's 312 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 8: just every single time that the Bills need to make 313 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 8: a play, they rely on Josh Allen, and Josh Allen 314 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 8: was putting some crazy situations and he was able to 315 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 8: make some plays. The other one than that, I really 316 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 8: enjoyed watching, and I think no one is talking about 317 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 8: them as Jacksonville Jaguars with Liam Cohne is doing. With 318 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence. I mean, this was, without a doubt, the 319 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 8: best game Trevor Lawrence has ever played, maybe at any level. 320 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 8: And it's not only because the six touchdowns, right, that's 321 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 8: nice and you look at the stats and you're like, oh, 322 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 8: that's awesome, but you look at the play calling, you 323 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 8: look at the place sequencing, meaning what plays are you 324 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 8: running back. 325 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: To back to back. 326 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 8: He has different plays and three different variations that may 327 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 8: make the defense react certain ways. That the amount of 328 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 8: play action, the trust that Trevor Lawrence is throwing, and 329 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 8: just it's it's been impressive to watch because, in my opinion, 330 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 8: the jury was a little bit out on Trevor Lawrence. Hey, 331 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 8: how's he going to react? How's he going to be 332 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 8: with this third head coach or fourth however many it is. 333 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 8: And then you see what Liam Cohen's been able to do, 334 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 8: and he's been able to highlight the strong parts of 335 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence's game, and that's throwing the football down the field, 336 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 8: and so it's just been really impressive. The other one, 337 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 8: real quick is Kayleb Williams. Caleb Williams to me and 338 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 8: Ben Johnson. If you just look at what Ben Johnson's doing, 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 8: He's worth fourteen points a game because these he's scheming. 340 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: Guys wide open. 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 8: But also Kayleb Williams actually trying to find stuff open 342 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 8: and throw stuff open. And his growth has been really good. 343 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 8: I can't believe the Bears have ten wins right now. 344 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: Okay, but he's getting credit for that throw to DJ Moore. 345 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was risky. 346 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 8: That was I mean, I honestly I broke it down 347 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 8: on the YouTube. It'll be out today. And when I 348 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 8: see that throw made, it's so nonchalant, right, he has 349 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 8: the ball down here and he just sort of tosses 350 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 8: it up like a prayer. And I don't know, first 351 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 8: of all, how the first safety missed it, and then 352 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 8: secondly the guy covering DJ Moore it went right through 353 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 8: his hands, and so everyone's gonna. 354 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: Be like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. That's a great throw. 355 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: I think it's risky, you know, back to Josh Allen 356 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: and you know, trying to equate what is value and 357 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: do we it Is it equal with being great in 358 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: September and October to being great in December? And this 359 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: is where Josh Allen, I mean, Matthew Stafford's been great wire. 360 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: To wire, yes, no doubt. 361 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: But so I don't know, if I was a voter, 362 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: how do I equate what he's doing now in December 363 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: as opposed to what Matthew Stafford has done the entire year. 364 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 8: I think Matthew Stafford still deserves the MVP and what 365 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 8: he's been able to do with this Rams scene. But Dan, 366 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 8: here's my thing, and I'm not a voter. I know 367 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 8: some people who are voters, and everyone votes differently. If 368 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 8: you look at the roster that Josh Allen has and 369 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 8: what he has been able to do lately, you can't 370 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 8: even remotely compare it to the roster that Matthew Stafford has. 371 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: Now. 372 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 8: Matthew's making some insane throws and Matthew's playing some of 373 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 8: the best Bowl of his career. But you look at 374 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 8: Kira and Williams, you look at and I know Josh 375 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 8: Allen has the running back, but. 376 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: You look at the receiver group over there for the 377 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 3: Rams with Puka and DeVante. 378 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 8: And just it just to me, I don't think that 379 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 8: Josh Allen has overtaken Matthew Stafford in the MVP race. 380 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: But this is the year for Josh Allen. 381 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 8: If there's any year that he's going to make some 382 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 8: hay in the AFC and actually win a Super Bowl, 383 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 8: it's going to be on the back of Josh Allen. 384 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 8: There's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Lamar Jackson. There's no 385 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 8: Joe Burrow, so Josh Allen, it's going to be talked 386 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 8: about if they can't, if they're limping into the playoffs, 387 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 8: which are not right now, or they don't, they go 388 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 8: around or two and they lose again. It just seems 389 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 8: to me, and they just beat the best team in 390 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 8: the NFC other than the Broncos, and so to me, 391 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 8: this is the year that. 392 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Josh Allen has to get it done. 393 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: Man, did you break down Philip Rivers? 394 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: I did. Yes. 395 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 8: It didn't get a lot of views because I guess 396 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 8: no one cares about old man Rivers, but it's on 397 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 8: the YouTube channel. 398 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: First of all, forget about any of the stats. I 399 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: mean a. 400 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: Forty four year old Waite, are you grating differently? Are 401 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: you grading differently because you go, well, it's a forty 402 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: four year old guy, Are you treating him the same 403 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: way you would Shadoor Sanders? 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: Not even close. 405 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 8: And it's grading on a curve because Philip Rivers five 406 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 8: hasn't thrown a pass in five years, so he's coaching 407 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 8: his high team. And when you go on the road 408 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 8: against that Mike McDonald defense and Seattle and almost win 409 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 8: like it just here's the thing. They can't really throw 410 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 8: it outside the numbers because Phillip's arm strength just isn't there. 411 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 8: I mean he threw a couple that were like lollipops 412 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh my gosh, they barely fit in there. 413 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 8: But in between the numbers, and I would say the 414 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 8: one thing that really stood out to me is mentally 415 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 8: meant he has not missed it at all. You see 416 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 8: him out there after the first like twenty plays where 417 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 8: he's filling it out. 418 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: He's getting the speed of the game. 419 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 8: He's changing plays left right, he's motioning, he's doing this, 420 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 8: he's changing the pass plays. 421 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you have all this figured out? 422 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: You got there on Monday. 423 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 8: Your first practice was Wednesday, so it was it was 424 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 8: impressive for what it was. I mean, the stats aren't 425 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 8: aren't there. It's a huge Monday night game against sporty 426 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 8: hour Zone. 427 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: He's Chased Daniel, the Mothership ESPN College Football and NFL 428 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: analyst and his show is on YouTube. He Chase Daniel Show. 429 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: I talked a little bit opening segment about Jackson Dart. 430 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: You know, the commander is going to shut down Jade Daniels. 431 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: They know what they have with him and let him 432 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: just get healthy in the off season. With Jackson Dart, 433 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: if you've been in the blue tent five times in 434 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: ten games, we have a real problem here. But I 435 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: don't know how you change somebody with their style and 436 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: you as a quarterback, can you what do you say 437 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: to Jackson Dart if he was your teammate and he 438 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: played this way and you were his backup, But you 439 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: might say, hey, keep playing this way. I'm going to 440 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: get in games. Yeah, yeah, but can he change modify 441 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: that style? 442 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 8: He's gonna have to and and it's it's been talked 443 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 8: about and when you when you watch the games and 444 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 8: you and you do it, it's not at a place 445 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: of like, oh, you know, I don't care about my body. 446 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 8: I think he's just uber competitive. But it's borderline reckless 447 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 8: right now. And I think that's what he has to 448 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 8: understand and the new head coach to understand. I think 449 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 8: I think they have to go offense for their new 450 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 8: head coach because Jackson Dart, in my opinion, is the 451 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 8: franchise quarterback. 452 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: He's done that. 453 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 8: And yes, there are certain ways that you can run 454 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 8: an offense with the quarterback running, but you have to 455 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 8: ingrain it in the quarterbacks that if you keep doing this, 456 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 8: we're just not going to call the plays and we're 457 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 8: not going to call the runs. And it is a 458 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 8: big part of his game. And I mean, Dan, if 459 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 8: you go back to his old miss days, I mean, 460 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 8: that showed up all over the film. It was like, hey, 461 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 8: I want to take a hit, I want to do this. 462 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 8: I mean to be in the tent for five times 463 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 8: in ten games. It's just not the case. And when 464 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 8: you get into those situations, right because the game's moving 465 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 8: really fast emotionally, you're just in that situation and you 466 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 8: don't think of it, and all of a sudden you 467 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 8: just get popped and it's just I mean, did you 468 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 8: see the Commander's meeting with Dan Quinn on The Hard 469 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 8: Knocks end season. They were talking about how Jackson Dart 470 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 8: and dan Quinn was talking about how Jackson Dart is 471 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 8: reckless and he has no awareness. He's like, we have 472 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 8: to pop them, we have to hit him. Joett said 473 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 8: the same thing the deep score. We have to hit 474 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 8: Jackson Dart. So it's being talked about in other locker rooms. 475 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 8: That's how you know it's a problem. And Jackson Dart 476 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 8: has to like when he goes back this offseason after 477 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 8: the season and they picked the head coach, They're going 478 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 8: to sit down and be like, this is the number 479 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 8: one thing we have to fix. You are uber talented, 480 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 8: but you have to be available for our football team. 481 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know it's been ingrained in him. His 482 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: dad was a defenshive back. I mean, he plays like 483 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: he's a defenship back playing quarterback. And I just wonder, 484 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: can you instinctively as you're running go, oh, wait a minute, 485 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to wait? So I wait, what am I 486 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: supposed to do? I don't know if you can do that? 487 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: And I think that'll be a real challenge for him. 488 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: And it doesn't sound like he wants to change. 489 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 8: I think the one thing that I saw change and 490 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 8: that maybe gives me hope, is that if you look 491 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 8: at Jayden Daniels in college, right, the one thing I 492 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 8: was worried about him was he did take too many hits, 493 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 8: whether it was sacks or running. And he's a true 494 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 8: pocket passer that can take off and is exceptional running 495 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 8: the football. He got smoked in college a few times, 496 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: and I was worried about his frame. I was worried 497 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 8: about him getting hurt more in the NFL. He's done 498 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 8: a really nice job and Dan Quinn's done a really 499 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 8: nice job of understanding. 500 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: Same with Cliff Kingsbury. 501 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 8: Hey you gotta get down and you gotta do this, 502 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 8: and it's just maybe baby steps, but I think the 503 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 8: first thing that has to happen is he has to 504 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 8: Jackson dr has to take accountability for it. And if 505 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 8: you can't, I mean, you're not gonna sit the guy 506 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 8: for not playing. 507 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: But eventually he's gonna get hurt. 508 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 8: He's gonna be out for an extended period of time, 509 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 8: and maybe that will make it click for him, like, hey, 510 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 8: I can't be doing this to my team. 511 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: The Dolphins have talked about sitting down to feels like 512 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: if you're sitting down and I'd like to see quinn 513 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Ewers maybe get a little run here at the end 514 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: of the year, But it feels like once you sit 515 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: somebody down, are you kind of shaying to the team 516 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: we're moving on from that quarterback. 517 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: Look if that's a great. 518 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 8: Question, and the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, whoever 519 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 8: it may be next year, because I'm I have no 520 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 8: idea what they're gonna do. They're gonna have a decision 521 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: to make with Tua, and I don't care about his 522 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 8: contract in what happens, but it just seems like, hey, 523 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 8: has Tua lived up to the standards on what they 524 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 8: probably thought they were gonna be Probably not right, Like 525 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 8: playoffs have been a dud all this stuff, and then 526 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 8: if you sit them down, I mean, you're saying you 527 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 8: want to see what a seventh round has for the 528 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 8: next three games, and if that seventh rounder plays well 529 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 8: enough or maybe you're in the QB conversation. It just 530 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 8: I don't think the jury's out yet on if Tua's 531 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 8: done or not. But it is a very difficult situation, 532 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 8: especially if you're Tua and you're seeing Daniel's make these 533 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 8: comments and you're like, oh my gosh, Like, man, I 534 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 8: thought I've done enough. And two has been really outspoken 535 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 8: on a lot of different things this year. It will 536 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 8: be interesting to see if if McDaniel's is the head 537 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 8: coach next year, does he bring back to a It 538 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 8: just I don't know, man, It's a tough situation. You know, 539 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 8: these last three four games for teams that aren't in 540 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 8: the playoff, But it's all about evaluation. You know that, 541 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 8: and so they want to evaluate not only the quarterback position, 542 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 8: but there's gonna be some stuff defensively they do. There's 543 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 8: gonna be stuff offensively they do. They need to really 544 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 8: evaluate the last you know, twenty twenty five guys on 545 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 8: the roster of that fifty three, and I don't think 546 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 8: they want two out there doing that. 547 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: What should the Chiefs approach be for next season? Man? 548 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 8: You know, we talk about I have a lot of 549 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 8: really good friends in the Chiefs organization, from the GM 550 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 8: to the quarterback coach to those like a lot of guys, 551 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 8: and when you talk to these guys, it's just like 552 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 8: a little bit of like unknown, like why aren't we 553 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 8: doing this? And why aren't we doing this? And how 554 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 8: are we not winning? And you look at it, Dan, 555 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 8: and it comes down to and I've really tried to 556 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 8: study it, because when you look at them offensively and defensively, 557 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 8: they're they're not. 558 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: Like awful, right. They don't have a run game right. 559 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 8: And I think it's a lazy take to just say, hey, 560 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 8: it's just the offensive line. They drafted the first round pick, 561 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 8: they have one of the best sinners in the NFL. 562 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: They got to stay healthy. They paid the right tackle. 563 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 8: And it's just one of those things where I boil 564 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 8: it down to be like they aren't great in one 565 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 8: score games, and I think they were eleven zero last year. 566 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: They're one and seven this year. And that's a huge 567 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: part of this deal. 568 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 8: If you win four of those seven games, you're in 569 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 8: the playoffs. Now, Mahome's hurt and it's brutal, and I 570 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 8: think this might be the best thing to happen to 571 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 8: the Chiefs. Everyone wants to talk about, like, hey, you know, 572 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 8: the dynasty's over and this and that, and you know, 573 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 8: Trey Wingo got on Twitter and said, hey, you know, 574 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 8: nice season. Tom Brady tears his ACL with the Patriots 575 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 8: iety and then Mahomes theres ACL. It's just a different 576 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 8: version gonna be moving forward. And I just think that 577 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 8: Brett Veitch, when you win Super Bowls and you've been 578 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 8: in five of the last six, you've been in seven 579 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 8: straight AFC Championship, you've had story book seasons every year. 580 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 8: First of all, they played I think twenty three extra games, 581 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: almost a season and a half of extra games in 582 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 8: seven years, So the tiredness plays into it. However, a 583 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 8: lot of times you're just like, let's. 584 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: Run it back. Let's run it back, Let's run it back. 585 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 8: And they've drafted well, but they got to get rid 586 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 8: of some older guys. They got some key decisions to make. 587 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 8: They got to sure up that defensive line. As long 588 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 8: as they have Spags and Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, 589 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 8: I think they're still gonna be fine. They're gonna make 590 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 8: the playoffs next year. Like it's not gonna be one 591 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 8: of those things where, hey, you know, it's just a 592 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 8: different version of the dynasty in my opinion. 593 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but when people make that comparison with Brady and Mahomes, 594 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Mahomes needs his legs. Tom doesn't. Tom didn't get slower. 595 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: He was slow. Mahomes he was their leading rusher. He 596 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: was the guy who got those big plays. It's different 597 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: for him. And with that kind of surgery, you know, 598 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: it's an LCL and an ACL and you're having it now. 599 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: Tom got injured at the beginning of the season when 600 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: he blew out his ACL, so it's you know, it's different, and. 601 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: It is totally different. 602 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 8: And here's the thing though, I think it'll be good 603 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 8: for them because they're gonna have to fix the run game. 604 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 8: Like they're not gonna have to rely on Mahomes anymore. 605 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 8: And yes, Mahomes like to move around. Remember I mean 606 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 8: three or four or five years ago, when Mahomes did 607 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 8: his kneecap, Yeah, and a quarterback sneak, and everyone and 608 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 8: their mom thought, oh, he's gonna miss the rest of 609 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 8: the season. 610 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: I think there was I think it was a maybe 611 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: Chad Hinny. 612 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: That was a quarterback. 613 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 8: He was back in two weeks, and so the ability 614 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 8: to get back into train and ACL and LCL is 615 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 8: completely different than a kneecap. 616 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: But everyone thought that was gonna be the end of 617 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: the world. I mean, he's gonna be pushing up to 618 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: the season. 619 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 8: I don't think he's He's obviously gonna have a brace 620 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 8: on and it's not gonna be able to move him. 621 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: But if anyone can heal fast, I think it's Mahomes. 622 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: When do you start chopping up the college quarterbacks. 623 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be after Christmas. 624 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 8: So I got to get through this bowl game, Independence Bowl, 625 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 8: and then as we get into the start of the playoffs, 626 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 8: it's it's those It's those three at the top in 627 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 8: my opinion, Dante Moore, Fernando Mendoza, and there's a few 628 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 8: more that I want to look at for potential. Ty 629 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 8: Simpson is one of them. I think he sort of 630 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 8: played his way out. But those are the three now 631 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 8: with the Arts Manning going back, and there's some other 632 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 8: like under the radar type guys, but that'll be at 633 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 8: the end of the end of the season for sure. 634 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: Have the Saints seen enough that they would not be 635 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: in the quarterback market with the Shuck? 636 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 8: Look, I know the people down there, and they've been 637 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 8: extremely happy with Shuck's development, and honestly, I think they 638 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 8: probably should have played them a little bit earlier, if 639 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 8: I'm being honest. 640 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: With you, just to see what they have. 641 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 8: I think there's enough, there's enough tape on film to 642 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 8: be like, hey, all right, we're good now. 643 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: If you have a high first round pick, though, and if. 644 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 8: You can get into that top three, I mean, you 645 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 8: have to look at Fernando Mendoza, you have to look 646 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 8: at at Dante More. 647 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: I think Shuck's good. 648 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 8: But you know, it's gonna be interesting to see what 649 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 8: happens with the head coach. I mean, the head coach 650 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 8: is staying down there and more. But I think I 651 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 8: think you're good. I don't know, there's so many other 652 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 8: holes on that roster that you need to fix. 653 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: But he's done a really nice job. 654 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 8: I mean, if you've really broken down the film and 655 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 8: watched it, and his growth has been tremendous. 656 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: Have fun in the Independence Bowl. Happy holidays to you 657 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: and always great to talk to you. Appreciate you. 658 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: Dan. 659 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: That's Chase Daniel The Mothership and also the Athletics Scoop 660 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: City with Diana Rassini. That great podcast and you can 661 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: check out the Chase Daniels Show on YouTube. I'm surprised 662 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: that he said he put down, put up the breakdown 663 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: of Philip Rivers, but not many views. Maybe it's more 664 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: of the media that was excited about this and maybe 665 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: the fans weren't. And I think he was being honest. 666 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: There were a couple of passes that Philip threw to 667 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: the sidelines and I thought that that's bad, that's not 668 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: good football at all. But what he's saying, and this 669 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: is what defenses are going to do. They're going to 670 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: force him to throw things to the sidelines because hey, 671 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: he's going to throw it out there and somebody's going 672 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: to pick it off and take it back. But as 673 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: far as breaking down a game and changing a game. Really, 674 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: the key was the Colts defense held Seattle in check, 675 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: because without that you're not scoring enough points normally to 676 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: win a game. But the defense played really well. And 677 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: if Philip is not getting sacked and you're not having turnovers, okay, 678 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: you're going to stay in a game. It's going to 679 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: be close. Seattle pouldered out at the end. But I 680 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: thought maybe more people would be interested in Philip Rivers. 681 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: I think it was more of a media creation than 682 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: it was a fan creation. That we've been hyped up 683 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: about him because most of us in the media are 684 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: old guys. We're like, ah, man, he's a couple of 685 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: years younger than me. He's a couple of years older 686 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: than me. We'll take a break, phone calls coming up, 687 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: settle on a poll question, and our play of the 688 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: day is next. 689 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 690 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 691 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 692 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: listen live. Oh my God, the day play. 693 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 7: This is the play of the day. 694 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: Shut this out. 695 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: Robinson. He had a gum by Webbin Yaba, but he's 696 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 2: now got seven offensive rebound on his owntown. 697 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: The dagger off Flitzer, Robinson's offensive. 698 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: Port four UM two developing at a nov no gun 699 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: Robinson another offensive board, Clarkson's. 700 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: That's Curtis. Do you have Amazon Prime? Go New York Go, 701 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: New York Go. Play of the Day brought to you 702 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie of the DP 703 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: show Push to Talk nationwide LTE coverage that means no 704 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: subscriptions ever. Business owners, stay connected with your employees anywhere. 705 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: Visit Rapid Radios, dot comp up to sixty percent off 706 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: and free shipping. Jim and Michigan leads us off. Jim, 707 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: good morning, what's on your mind? 708 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 5: Hey? 709 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 9: Dan? 710 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 10: You know what I thought, maybe when I first called 711 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 10: in what was important it might now be gong or worthy. 712 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 10: So I'm just gonna preface it with that. Yesterday, when 713 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 10: you guys do the section at the end of the 714 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 10: show or what we learned today, the one part I 715 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 10: thought maybe one of you guys would have said was 716 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 10: when Jim Harbaugh said, you know, back when he was younger, 717 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 10: his dad would let him outside with the rest of 718 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 10: the kids and then click the door behind them. 719 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yes, we all got our what we learned wrong? Yeah, 720 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: what we learned is what we learned wasn't correct Sounds 721 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: like that's what you learned, mourning to Jim in Michigan. 722 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 4: Yes, there was a I think the turning point of 723 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 4: remember in summer you would spend your entire summer outside 724 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: and try stout as late as possible. And then like 725 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 4: Atari was invented, and those video games are invented, and 726 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: that's the turning point of when kids said more time 727 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: inside than outside. 728 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, but we didn't have Atari. 729 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying you never Gym did with this. No, 730 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: definitely Jim did. 731 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, kick him outside and you un lock the 732 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: door and you stay out there. Yes see. 733 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like maybe the turning point, like Paul's mentioning, 734 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 6: was that's when you started getting yelled at for staying 735 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 6: inside too long. There's like mom and dad would be like, yeah, 736 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: playing video games all day, so get outside. 737 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the summer. My mom said, if you're inside 738 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: when I get up, you're working. So we were out 739 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 2: the door at seven seven am and didn't come back 740 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: until dinner. Chris and Syracuse, Good morning, Chris, what's on 741 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: your mind today? 742 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 11: Thanks? 743 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 9: Dan, got a couple of things to throw at you. Yeah, 744 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 9: last weekend another breaking in sports, especially in the NFL. 745 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 9: The rash of home invasions while players are on the 746 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 9: road is a real problem, and I believe years ago 747 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 9: Sean Taylor actually lost his life defending his home. And 748 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 9: I don't know what they could do, but I wish 749 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 9: the NFL would try teaming up with a place like 750 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 9: simply Safe home security Systems to maybe at least help 751 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 9: mitigate the problem. And I am a really big Nick fan, 752 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 9: and I'm with you, I don't want to see a banner. 753 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 9: The only thing really I liked about this tournament is 754 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 9: that the players, I believe each get five hundred grand each. 755 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 9: Nice for the guys on the end of the bench. 756 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 9: And Brunson said last night that the Knicks were going 757 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 9: to give their team managers and trainers part of the money, 758 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 9: So that's good. But I am excited about raising a 759 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 9: real banner in June. And this team reminds me of 760 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 9: those seventy championship teams. Dan, You know, you had your 761 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 9: point guard and center, your two stars. They had Clyde 762 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 9: and Read in the seventies, and this year you got 763 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 9: Brunson and Cat and then guys like the Bush and Bradley, 764 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 9: who do a little of everything, played some defense, and 765 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 9: this year we got Bridges and Anobi and Josh Hart 766 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 9: and especially Anobi. I that guy is so unique the 767 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 9: way he plays. And Gretzky always used to say, I 768 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 9: don't want to be where the puck is. I want 769 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 9: to be where the puck is going to be. 770 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: And that's old. 771 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 9: Gyenobi with a basketball. His anticipation is incredible. 772 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that observation. Chris Lucas in Texas, 773 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: Hey Luke, Hey. 774 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 12: Dan, good morning, good morning. I know that we're still 775 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 12: a couple of days out from the weekend, but I'm 776 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 12: looking forward to a most must win game of the weekend. 777 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 12: And I don't want to put too much pressure on 778 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 12: James Madison and Tulane. I understand that they're thereby their 779 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 12: definitions of success. They have a successful season making the playoffs. 780 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 12: I just feel like if there is not a Boise 781 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 12: State beating Oklahoma type upset soon, there's gonna be a 782 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 12: lot less pays for a team's like Notre Dame sitting 783 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 12: on the sideline while a team like James Madison gets 784 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 12: blown out by Oregon. I think if that game isn't close, 785 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 12: or if there's not an upset, I feel like we're 786 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 12: gonna be saying that that Oregon game on Saturday night, 787 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 12: we would much rather be watching Notre Dame out at 788 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 12: Addson rather than than the Dukes. 789 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Joel Klatt, Fox college football analyst had 790 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: this to say about Cinderella's the reason. 791 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 11: The group of five is included in this playoff is 792 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 11: to avoid antitrust litigation. That's it, guys, like, we're not 793 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 11: looking for a Cinderella. Nobody cares in football about James 794 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 11: Madison or you know the equivalent of George Mason going 795 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 11: didn't George Mason go to the Final four or something? 796 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: Yes, nobody cares in football. And he's I mean, he's right, 797 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 2: he's saying the quiet part out loud because there's part 798 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: of us that's like, well, they you know, let's reward somebody. 799 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: If they did what you're supposed to do, then you 800 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: reward them, whether it was Boise State, Arizona State last 801 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: year and you got James Madison in Tulane, but the 802 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament March Madness. We're fine with the upsets early 803 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: and then once it gets to the sweet sixteen or 804 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: the Elite eight. That's when we go, Okay, guys, now 805 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: the grownups take over. We want to see the best teams. 806 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: We want to see the best teams in college football play, 807 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: and can we get to the point what you're still 808 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: going to have these teams like James Madison in tu 809 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: Lane make the playoffs. If you go to sixteen teams, now, 810 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: you're going to make sure that you do get probably 811 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: the fourteen best teams in college football, the thirteen best, 812 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 2: and you're going to get a couple of these Oh wow, 813 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: that was a great run, like Liberty or you know 814 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 2: some of these other schools that had, you know, meteoric rise. 815 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: But I just think there we're going to have this. 816 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going away, at least not anytime soon. 817 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 2: One hour in the Books, two more to Go eight 818 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show more phone calls, Robert Griffin 819 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 2: Junior the third will join us. Also, Tony Gonzalez stops by, 820 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: and Reggie Miller with his weekly appearance