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So we break down the 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.400 twenty twenty one Masters, and there it's winner, Hideki Matsiyama 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.480 in great detail, And thank you so much for Sean, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.120 uh for coming on, And without further ado, here is 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.400 the episode. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.840 I missed a green. For example, I'm already upset when 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.960 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.959 And when I find my ball in a bright egg 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.079 Frida egg, the dreaded Frida egg Frida egg Frida egg 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.720 egg Frida egg bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:18.480 run off with the. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:42.400 Hup sean recent new father. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.480 Was this your first uh start since uh since Paterni 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.280 leave back at at the Masters. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.600 It was. I came back and worked match play week 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.680 because you know, that's just a grind, the traffic on 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.560 the match recaps, people love those. I want to help 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.799 out with that with ninety six matches in three days. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.600 Not to get into a format discussion, which I know 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.720 you want to, but that was my first That was 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.359 my first event on the road since the Houston Open, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.400 oh no, sorry, since the RSM Classics. So yeah, so 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.200 what a jump, just big events in Georgia. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.639 Thrown right into the Wolves. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.160 Yeah, it had to be like a surreally different experience 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.640 with such limited fans, Like it had to be so 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.160 easy to go around, so easy to see stuff. Obviously 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.919 one of the one of the few places that media 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.360 is not allowed inside the ropes is the Masters. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.760 Yeah, it was still very different. You know, there were 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.120 still no grand stands, which it took me a little bit. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.320 I was walking around on Monday, I was like, man, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.480 this feels different still, and I can't fire out why. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:40.880 And then I got to the middle of that fairway 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.200 on fifteen about eighty yards out whe everyone stops and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.320 takes a photo and I realized I could see the 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.400 sixteenth Green, and I was like, oh yeah, there's no 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.720 grand stands. He saw those clear sight lines. Was really cool. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.080 When Kyle and I were walking the back nine, you know, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.560 you still could see things easily. You know, we were 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.840 next to the fifteenth green when Hedeki and Xander were there. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.200 We walked over to sixteen t still could see everything. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.240 So it definitely still is very different than like your 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.080 typical masters, but it wasn't. I mean the thing that 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:05.720 November is going to be. I mean that's once in 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.440 a lifetime that one's going to stand alone. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.400 Different experience being on the grounds. Obviously, a historic win, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.080 one that has to make you smile, had to make you, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.360 you know, grin in from ear to ear. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:18.720 You're one of the. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:23.760 Biggest Hideki appreciators fans on the planet, especially in this 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.800 part of the world, and you know, different masters, But 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.240 what were your overarching thoughts on Hideki's win. Obviously you 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.599 penned a wonderful profile piece on his win on Hideki 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.200 on PGA tour dot com that would urge all the 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.000 listeners to go read Yes, So I. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.120 Think the word fan makes me a little bit uncomfortable. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.400 And it's funny because people react as if like this 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.919 was life changing for me, Like am I going to 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.440 get one percent of the earning? You know, It's not 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.560 like I'm earning money off. There's something that like the 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.120 end of the day, you know, it was great to see. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.320 I like to consider myself a Hideki Matsiyama appreciator, probably 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.080 the largest deck appreciator of the American media. So fan 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.040 always makes you a lol uncomfortable. It's a I think 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.520 we'll get into it, but it's really a bit that 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.640 kind of started ten years ago, and I think now 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.440 that it's been going for like ten years, it's kind 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.560 of probably melded with reality. It's hard to tell where 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.159 what's a joke and what's not. And so yeah, but 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.040 I mean, I you know, there's no cell phones with Augustin 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.640 National obviously, so I'd go out on the course and 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.440 watched nine holes. I'd come back to like fifty text messages. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.000 I mean, it was I've never I can say, without 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.080 a doubt, I've never received so many text messages in 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.520 a day from Saturday to Sunday. That was wild. I 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.200 you know, like guys say after they win the tournament. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.960 You know, I have not responded to everyone yet, and 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.640 I've apologize if I haven't been trying to get back 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.720 to everyone at once. But it was a little bit 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.760 wild in that sense that the amount of I guess 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.480 attention and texts and tweets and everything else was a 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:47.320 little wild. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.600 I mean, were you surprised that he won this? 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.719 Yeah, I mean I think I want to say that 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:53.960 I said earlier this year, I didn't think it was 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.400 gonna win it this year. I thought the drought was 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.000 gonna keep going. I mean, he didn't have a top 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.040 ten going into Augusta. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.000 I mean, he hasn't been playing golf. He was off 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.800 everybody's radar. But then, you know, I think this is 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.320 the thing about Augusta and why you kind of kick 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.960 yourself is like majors are they bring a little bit 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.120 different out of it. But like then, you know, he's 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.000 played so well at Augusto over his career, and it's like, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:14.520 you look. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.040 At what what do you need. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.960 At Augusta More than anything is great iron play, and 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.240 that's that's what he does everywhere. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.000 Same things as Ala Torus. I mean talking about tough 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.880 conditions bringing out the best. I mean z Aala. Torris's 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.000 best two finishes this year are the US Open and 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.839 the Masters Hideki. His shros gain approach is a little 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.200 bit off this year, but he's finished in the top 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.800 ten in SHROS gain to approach the green every season 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.760 of his career. His full first full season was twenty fourteen, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.800 and he's been top ten. He's the only player to 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.240 finish top ten in SHROS gain approach the green in 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.680 each of the last seven years, and his streak of 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 seven consecutive years of doing that is the longest since 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.320 ros gain was invented. The next best, I think was 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.160 Furich and your Boy Ernie at five, and the next 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.039 longest active streak was Justin Thomas at four. Now, Tiger 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.080 probably would have gotten there if he had seven consecutive 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.920 years where he counted for the stats. But like from 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.840 under the Hany years, I mean really under the Haney yars, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.440 his iron players unbelievable. In O four to seven he 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.480 was always top ten. He would have been in OA 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.640 he won four to six starts before the knee, and 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.240 he probably would have been again. I think he was 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.040 again in nine, and then of course ten and eleven. Uh, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.280 he wasn't in the stats again either because of limited play, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.240 were you. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.840 You know, what did you think going into Sunday? Did 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.239 you think did you feel like Kadecki was was gonna, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.360 you know, do what he did, go out and play 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.520 like a really solid round of golf or were you 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.040 was there any of the pursuers that really worried you 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.440 more than others the in terms of him getting it 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:38.239 done on Sunday. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.600 So I think when he finished, you know, having played 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.720 the last eight holes in six under, you know, you're like, oh, well, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.040 he's gonna shoot sixty three tomorrow when this by twelve, 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.840 like he just looked unbeatable. But then I think someone 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.920 made the point that Rory had a four shot lead 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.480 in twenty eleven, and it felt like as I got 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.640 close to the tea time, you're like, man, four shots 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.200 is real. It's not a guarantee. And actually listening to 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.440 the shotgun, start listening to Andy yourself say you know, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.640 if he shoots seventy, someone's got to shoot sixty six, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.360 Like all right that you know you put it that way, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.160 and it felt a little more confident, but you know, 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.760 I don't know. And then you're out there he pushes 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.800 his tee shot one, and I was behind him when 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.920 he hit the second shot, and he hit it through 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.520 the trees, but he did not hit it through the 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.960 gap he was trying to hit it through. Uh. He 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.920 hit it right of a tree and into another gap 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.080 where I think if he at least it didn't seem 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.360 he hit it through the gap he was trying to, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.760 and so it very easily would have hit the right 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.760 side of that tree and bounced further into trouble. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.040 It's I mean, it require a little luck. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.240 You know, he gets through the trees speed doesn't and 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.040 that's like, you know, part of the championship right there. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.240 Yeah, it's uh. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.920 But I mean it was not's how deleted evaporated one 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.920 by the time he gets off one. But at the 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.200 same time, I think this is something that happens with 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.120 the gust every year. Is it kind of tricks us? 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:56.800 Yeah, you've got two and three coming up. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.160 Yeah, because he you know, it's like it doesn't on 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:00.960 the back nine too, where you have that run of 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.240 really scorable holes and then every year like, oh, maybe 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.120 this guy's gonna be the guy and they're like, well, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.080 he's just played all like the gettable holes and all 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.080 the leaders haven't and ever going through the murderer stretch, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.160 and I think the same thing happens right out of 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.360 the gates with like you get through one, then you 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:22.360 got scorable two, three, But you know it's four or five, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.280 six really determine how you play that front nine. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:26.440 It seems like, to. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.000 Be honest, I kind of thought Zalad Horus, I mean, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.599 he was the one I kind of felt like was 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.720 the biggest threat. It was just that, you know, the 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.760 longer I've covered this, the more you realize, like so 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.600 much of it is just mental. Like Jordan Spieth was 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.800 not the best ball striker in college golf, like he was, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.400 you know, had some scrapy areas he still does, but 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.640 he wins three majors. You just see it with these 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.600 guys who are just so mentally tough, and like Zalad 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.400 Torres to do what he did in these two majors 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.240 and you know, play rock solid on Saturday while in 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.480 the final group with Justin Rose, you know, it just 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.640 shows that mentally he has something, and so I kind 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.480 of thought that he might just you know, if it 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.160 becomes an eye players game and he doesn't fold, which 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.360 it didn't look like he was gonna do, then I 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.840 kind of thought that he might just go ahead and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:07.240 win it. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.839 Yeah, you know, that's the thing I thought with zalatoris 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.120 one of the most Outside of his play, one of 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.840 the things that I found the most impressive was just 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.480 his candor and interviews, his presence and interviews. He drops 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.720 some zingers. He was like very calm, extraordinarily well spoken, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.280 and the moment. You know, you see people get into 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.160 these things and a lot of times you're like, oh that, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.040 like you know, burn Visburger, great great player, but like 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.600 you see him up there and you're like, well, this 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.200 isn't gonna last, you know, And there was something like 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.080 with Xalatorus, not only the way he was playing, but 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.400 the way he was handling himself. You're like, oh, this 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:44.800 guy is not going away. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.080 And you know. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.200 Of I think like in terms of like just like 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.600 a small little thing, Xalatorus makes that putt on eighteen 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.160 on Sunday, and I think it's a lot different of 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:00.800 a Sunday if if Decki's playing with Xalatorus and a 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.680 three back rather than where zal Tours was a few 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.040 groups ahead of them, Because I think I val Tours 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.880 was the guy that would have put the pressure on. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.880 Yeah, And it's funny because Hedecki's up five with a 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.280 turn and Porter just keeps going. I mean, speF is 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.080 up six and no. Granted he had a dunk in 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.079 the water on twelve. I really thought once he birdied thirteen, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.640 I thought it was over. Five up was five to go. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.160 There's no real danger except maybe fifteen. But even then, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.520 if you hit your second shot on the water, you 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.679 could get out of there with bogie pretty easy. I 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.680 didn't think it hit in along the back water, but 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.280 I mean, Xander, I mean that we couldn't see that 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.840 bunker shot ply as well as people on TV. But 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.960 based on the reaction with the patrons, it seemed like 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.679 it was really close to dropping. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.280 Oh it was so close it was. I mean, it 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.920 was like it burned thatdge and. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:45.760 Then it's one shot. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.560 You know, well, you know, so this is where I 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.960 kind of like him and hide. It's like the record 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.640 books are going to show us a one shot win. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.120 But it was not that close. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.800 No. But I mean if that if that bunker shot drops, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.320 he's only up one with three holes to go. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.680 One of the things when you build a five shot 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.840 lead with five to go, you're afforded a leeway of mistakes. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.720 And you know, obviously the big mistake was fifteen, but 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.680 that was the smarter miss than the short miss. Like 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.400 the shortness is when you welcome in eight, you know, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.600 it all of a sudden enters the chat. But you know, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.199 he had the three put on sixteen, obviously a hard putt. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.560 He had the you know, he had a missed short 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.680 putt on fourteen. Like that's the other thing about his round, Like, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.760 you know, he played great seven, he missed short one seven. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.880 Like it was not a bulletproof round, but like the 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.040 iron play was extraordinary for the stretch of holes that 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.480 you really needed to be on fire, you know, when 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:49.439 you think about six through fourteen, he didn't really miss 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:50.720 many shots, you know. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.240 And I thought your point about, you know, thinking back 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.320 to the birdie on thirteen down eighteen on Saturday, your 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.800 point that everyone thinks that, you know, chipping and putting 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.480 are correlated. The short game is correlated. And obviously we 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.000 know about his putting. He's a fantastic chipper of the 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.200 golf ball, oh him. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.320 And it's like him and Sergio, they have this thing 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.440 about really great iron players like who struggle with putting. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.199 It's great hands. I mean Web Simpson is kind of 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.160 the same way too, I mean just great hands. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.520 You know, Tony, I think you could throw in that bucket. Also, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.800 like everybody's like, oh, he gets it done with distance, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.640 and it's like, well, he's a top twenty player around 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:29.559 the greens like that. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.000 You know, that doesn't happen that often. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.480 I think too. We talk about the golf swing being 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.960 about big muscles and you want to take the little 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.520 muscles out of it. In the club's traveling one hundred 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.840 miles an hour on iron shots, and you know you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.880 can't really finagle it, but at the same time, you 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.640 know you did here. I remember Phil one year talking 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.280 about where he was at with his game. He had 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.240 just twished to uh Andrew gets in his current teacher 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:49.400 and he's like, you know, I think I've got the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.040 big motions down, but it's still now just getting those tiny, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.440 tiny motions with a hand to work the ball. And 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.319 so there is still some hands in the iron shots, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.839 you know, when you're dealing with side hill lies and 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.800 maybe an imperfect lie, there still is there's still some 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.960 hands there whereas kind of the driver probably not as much. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.560 M Hey, you did a really great piece on Bob Turner, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.640 his interpreter a few years back, twenty fourteen, and I'm 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.360 just curious, you know, about his impact on Hideki through 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.000 the years. Obviously he's been basically at his side for 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.960 everything for since he turned pro. Can you shed a 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.880 little bit more light on on Bob Turner? 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.560 Yeah? So interesting. I mean I think everyone saw it, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.720 yes or Sunday. You know, Bob Turner is just a 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.840 white guy. He's not from Japan, but he's living in 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:47.640 Northern California. Converted to Mormonism and did his mission in Japan, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.840 and it was a pretty good golfer, was playing college golf, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.880 went over to Japan and then came back and had 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.600 met a woman there and so decided to go back. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.360 And so he goes over there, gets married, plays his 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.480 final year of college golf in Japan, and so it's 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.880 like all Japanese guys and this one white dude and 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.360 the college golf team used to help at the Dunlop Phoenix, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.480 which is that kind of that big event that they 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.760 do appearance Fees Brooks has wanted, Tigers wanted, Sev's wanted. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.120 They get, you know, a handful of international stars every 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.520 year and the college team was the standard bearers, and 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.880 so somebody saw Bob and they're like, well, what's your story? 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.200 What are you doing here, because I mean, he's the 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.880 one white guy in Japan or at the tournament and 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.840 told his story, and so they started using him to translate, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.520 like when Seve would come over or Tiger or any 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.360 of those players will come over to Dunlop Phoenix, he 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.960 became the translator and so then he just started this 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.520 business of translating for golfers. And so his son, Alan 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.560 actually was the the bullpen catcher and the translator for 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.760 a Seattle Mariners reliever. I can't remember his name, and 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.960 I want to say that the golf coach at Hideki's 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.560 university was also that had been the baseball coach. I 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.840 had met him. He was like, he seemed like a 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.720 base and so they got connected and asked Alan to 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.320 translate when Hideki came to his first Masters in twenty eleven, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.680 which actually uh Hideki and I both played Augusta for 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.040 the first time of the same year, just you know, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.880 another connection. So that was and then Bob eventually he 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.800 became his translator, and Alan actually still works for the Mariners. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.760 He translates now for Echiro Eachiro's coaching in the Mariners system. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.160 And so I think it's been a huge help because 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.960 I mean, you have Hideki over here. You know, he 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.160 still doesn't speak you know, he's not fluent in English. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.120 Obviously a lot of guys say he speaks more than 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.240 he lets on, but that helps him kind of stay focused. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.320 But I think he helped with the transition immensely. I mean, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.240 Hideki when he first came over was doing kind of 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.120 the Sunjay thing of like going hotel to hotel, didn't 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:43.680 have a house. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.960 Where does where does Hideki live in the States now 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.960 when he is Orlando Orlando? 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.720 Okay, Yeah, So I think it's been a huge help. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.760 And I think too, you know, Hideki said that he 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.200 asked Bob or he was going to ask Bob on Saturday, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.680 like what what did Sevy do in situations like this? 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:00.880 And he didn't have a chance to. But I think 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.920 Bob also because he's been around Tiger and Sevi and 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.439 other Japanese star golfers, he can provide some of that 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.000 as well. And you know, Bob's really low key, really chill. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.240 A lot of times I seen at events and we 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.679 just talk about like he lost about my kids and 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.639 we'll just have like small talk. And he's just a 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.960 very low key, relaxed person. So I could see him 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.440 possibly helping, you know, Hideki in that because Hideki is 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:21.440 so intense. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.280 With with Hideki. Obviously, I think a lot of people 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.720 are learning more about him. He seems like an extremely 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.720 private person. I mean, obviously there's the the tales of 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.480 him hiding his not only marriage but the birth of 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.080 his first child from from the Japanese press that have 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.160 you know, tried to infiltrate every aspect of his life. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.959 Were you surprised at all to see him flying commercial 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.560 out of Atlanta. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.639 A little bit? It's funny. I found a clip on 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.080 YouTube of like a Japanese morning show had called into 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.760 like his Orlando house, and I mean this thing was 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.119 like bare bones. You know, there was like nothing on 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.639 the walls. There's just this and I don't know if 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.440 it's still where he lives in Orlando, but you know 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.479 it's like there was a treadmill and there was but there. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.000 It looked like basically like a college guy's house, not decorated, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.399 just basic, which kind of feels like it fits his 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.919 life of like there's golf, and like, that's it. I 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.959 wasn't shocked. I mean, also, if he was going to Japan, 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.440 I mean, frankly, I don't know if you can fly 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.360 private across the Pacific. Uh, maybe you can't. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.960 I guess he had to go to he had to 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.680 come to Chicago. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:21.960 You know. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.240 He doesn't stop them by my house to do an interview. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:28.439 But my favorite thing, but I still love the line 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.840