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Speaker 1: There's a lot of great head coaches out there, but

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Speaker 1: head coaches do not run the team.

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Speaker 2: When you win championship.

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Speaker 3: Players that run.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the O. G. S. It is a

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Speaker 4: Playmaker original presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 5: A Florida legend in the building.

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Speaker 3: Say it again, A Florida legend in the bill. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So that's all. That's all I wanted you to do.

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Speaker 5: Bowl champions pro bowler, soon to be Hall of.

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Speaker 2: Famer, damn right, damn right, soon to be ninth in

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Speaker 2: all time and receptions.

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Speaker 4: Real quick, I'm before we get into some other stuff.

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Speaker 4: I got it, but I want to touch on So

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Speaker 4: when you got eligible to be in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: it's coming right, you've.

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Speaker 5: What does that? What does that look like? So five

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Speaker 5: years removed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you put your past that threshold. Last couple

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Speaker 4: of years has been we've been close.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, where we've been, uh, semi finalists last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, I think last two, last three, three?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, this is.

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Speaker 5: How has that worked? I don't understand that.

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Speaker 4: So as a voting comes through, so when the semifinalists,

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Speaker 4: it's like, what does that give me?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 5: Break that down? I've never in the world.

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Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to it.

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Speaker 3: You don't really so you don't really think about it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The only time, like I hear about it is like

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Speaker 1: around Super Bowl, when that time come around and people

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Speaker 1: start talking about it.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I just live life. O. It's crazy

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Speaker 2: that you say that, because that's how that's how I am.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think about the things that I accomplished.

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Speaker 2: I really don't like and it's for me, it's like,

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Speaker 2: what's next. That was fun, I enjoyed it, it was great,

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Speaker 2: but that was in the past. Like, I really don't

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Speaker 2: look back at the things that I accomplished, And people

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Speaker 2: talk about that, and I say to myself, I'm always

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Speaker 2: focused on looking forward. I'm always focused on what's next.

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Speaker 2: I'm always focused on my family. I'm always focused on

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Speaker 2: what's next. I don't really look back at the things

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Speaker 2: that I accomplishing and really wallow and laying that off

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Speaker 2: the killer. You know what I'm saying, It's just it

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Speaker 2: is what it is. I got the memories in my head,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. All that where people take

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Speaker 2: cameras and pictures take away from the moment. Everything social

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Speaker 2: media and you can't even enjoy the moments. No more

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Speaker 2: like the moments are price is being in those moments.

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Speaker 2: But now everything is a picture, Everything is a camera,

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Speaker 2: Everything is an accolade. I'm a little old school man.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna throw back. I'm like that right there. Man,

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Speaker 2: it was fun.

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Speaker 5: Let's go old school. Let's go old school. Per hokey.

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Speaker 5: That pronounce it, but hokey Florida man, before we got

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Speaker 5: them here, I.

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Speaker 3: Say it again, killer hokey.

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Speaker 5: That sound like that, sound like some I sound like

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Speaker 5: something I grew up here for. Hoy hookey, South Dakota.

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Speaker 5: The football, this rabbit chasing thing, this is real. I

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Speaker 5: saw the video legit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, real, like I know, but yes real. I

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Speaker 2: told him he want to go.

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Speaker 3: He ain't got a chance, no chance, got a chance.

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Speaker 2: But no it's not because this was not just football, basketball, track,

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Speaker 3: He played everything.

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Speaker 2: So when he actually came to the University of Florida,

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Speaker 2: when he took his visit, we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 2: But when he took his visit to the University of Florida,

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Speaker 2: everybody knew that was coming, like everybody knew it. Supposedly

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, but he was an athlete. So he played everything,

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Speaker 2: but everybody knew he was on campus when he came

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Speaker 3: But that's how great he was in sports.

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Speaker 1: Talk about growing up there though, So yeah, for us,

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Speaker 1: it's a small town. Everybody know everybody. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: we know him for growing sugar cane and raising football players.

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Speaker 2: Rct Man from wrong. The sugar cane feels is where

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Speaker 2: you chase the rabbits. Yeah, is that way? So they

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Speaker 2: it and like when the rabbits out, Yeah, the rabbits

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Speaker 2: come out, Like you're coming home from school, you will

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Speaker 2: see a field burning and like, dudes, just you throw

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Speaker 1: This is so great. So you wherever the field burning,

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Speaker 2: So growing up football was your number one sport? Did

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Speaker 2: you kind of fall into football because you played a

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Speaker 1: So growing up, honestly, we didn't have like organized football

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Speaker 1: when I grew up. Okay, we played organized baseball, which

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Speaker 3: And then you know people say that baseball was their

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Speaker 2: And we had organized basketball.

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Speaker 5: Were you nice basketball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, hey man, listen, I'm just gonna ask you

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Speaker 2: that because a lot of football players say they're nice.

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Speaker 3: They be athletic as hell they do.

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Speaker 2: They could put all this over the basket and a miss,

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Speaker 3: What's considered nice? You could go? Can you can you

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Speaker 3: compete with your son?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, well then you're nice then because your son

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Speaker 2: can go. Your son could go, So if you could

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Speaker 2: compete with his son, then he nice. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of football players say the nice.

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Speaker 1: You have some football players that can play basketball, and

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Speaker 1: you have some who look like they shouldn't be on

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Speaker 2: They know who they are. We've seen y'all athletic, now

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Speaker 1: Every every football player can't play basketball. That's just what

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Speaker 5: Something about not very many basketball players to play football either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that's different. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that tried to play football basketball players that tried

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Speaker 1: to play football and got hit once and that was it.

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Speaker 2: Having a big fellow over here, total man got folded

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Speaker 3: But I was. But that's not he said, by time.

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Speaker 2: By the time he got up by till me off

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Speaker 5: He didn't have no.

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Speaker 2: But I wasn't one of those guys who went out

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Speaker 2: up until tenth grade. Like South Florida, we played football.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do. Football and basketball is two sports.

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Speaker 2: So I was one of those kids that was in

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Speaker 2: Football was kind of like, I like it. It's fun,

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Speaker 2: end and got hit a little foul, flipped my ass.

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Speaker 2: Football different, yeah, because I was playing d ND so

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Speaker 3: I got hit.

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Speaker 2: I was six seven coming off that end. I thought

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Speaker 2: I had a B line at the quarterback. I ain't

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Speaker 2: see nothing to nobody. Next thing you know, OG got flipped.

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Speaker 2: My feet was in the Tommy balls over here. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm living off the court. I'm living off the field.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking that off as I'm going off. By the

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Speaker 2: time I get to the sideline, I ain't got no

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Speaker 2: nothing but some paying I said, coach, that's it. I said, question,

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Speaker 2: that's it. Question. We hit me right in with the decap

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't the physicality. It was just like I

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Speaker 2: don't need to be getting hurt, Like I don't need

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Speaker 4: All right, so quarterback, you're dead nights a quarterback. They

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Speaker 4: recruiter as a quarterback and you just decided no plays.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got recruited as a quarterback and when I went,

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Speaker 1: Chris Winky was actually starting.

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Speaker 3: But Chris Wing was one hundred and seventeen, so we.

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Speaker 1: Got He got drafted baseball, played baseball for some years,

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Speaker 1: came back, and when he came back, he was like

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Speaker 3: Remember that he's like these fotball players.

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Speaker 5: Now was that I l.

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Speaker 3: When I got recruited, he actually had he had got hurt.

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Speaker 1: So he didn't play in the National Championship that year

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Speaker 1: I when I saw him, he couldn't throw a tennis ball,

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Speaker 1: damn five yards. So I'm like, okay, I can go

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Speaker 1: compete and win the spot. But when I ended up signing,

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Speaker 1: we going to training camp and he one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So now he's a junior and I think he's about

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Speaker 1: twenty five, so obviously you know he led the team

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Speaker 1: coming in. They had Marcus Alson who was backup, and

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Speaker 1: then they had like JJ. But I found myself watching practice,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I started, I started at varsity, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, as a freshman. So I'm here, I'm

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm about to go highlight coach right cock.

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Speaker 1: After practice, i go up and talk to Coach Bowden.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, coach, man, like, I'm not cool with just

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Speaker 1: watching practice, like I want to play. He was like, well,

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Speaker 1: we recruited you to be a quarterback and you trying

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Speaker 1: to switch already. I'm like yeah. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I was like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to get on the field. But I'm not used

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Speaker 1: to this. He was like, have you talked to your

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Speaker 1: they really wanted you to play quarterback too. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean I talked to my dad. He was like,

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Speaker 1: whatever I want to do, it's cool. So he was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll allow you to switch. He said, what

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Speaker 1: position you're thinking about? So I was like, man, I

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Speaker 1: played safety in high school, so I go to safety.

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Speaker 1: He was like nah. He's like, we can't let you

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Speaker 1: go to safety. You too good with the ball. And

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Speaker 1: he was like, if you're gonna switch, it has to

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Speaker 1: be on offense. You can go to receiver or running back.

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Speaker 1: I'm like running back, I'll go to receiver. I had

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Speaker 1: never played receiver before. In the room that I went

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Speaker 1: into the receiver room, it was like Peter Ward Run,

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Speaker 1: Dugan's Lavernie is cold, Snoop Minuce. All these dudes got

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Speaker 1: d and I'm walking in there as a a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But two weeks later we

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Speaker 1: played Louisiana Tech. I get too touchdown first game. Hey man, listen,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is you can kind of take some

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Speaker 4: credit for you being a Hall of Fame wide receiver then,

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Speaker 4: because you know the Florida, which is where you should

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Speaker 4: have went, you might have been starting a quarterback. We

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Speaker 4: never saw you as a wide receiver. We can tell people.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that later.

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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing is, and the kids at homes

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Speaker 2: can take a page out your book, bro, because you

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Speaker 2: Lavernius Coles, Snoop Minutes, Ron Ron, can we get Peter Ward,

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Speaker 3: Rabbit loaded bradington y'all was loaded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a we had a we had a man,

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Speaker 1: It was loaded. Was the running backs, Travis Minor, Jeff Cheney.

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Speaker 2: Jones, big boy played for the Jaguars. Run your ass,

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Speaker 2: so take your ass with him.

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Speaker 4: To the Bobby Boden was a real og then huh yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then and then if I think sometimes you have

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But when you when you think about it and you

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Speaker 1: When you get the MAT drills, they got all your

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Speaker 4: I am sitting at minus seven hundred For people at home,

442
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 4: that is expensive. Delay plus four seventy five gets in

443
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 4: the rigging, especially with sixty fights under your bath fight.

444
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: You imagine how I six with thirty four KOs now?

445
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 5: Could you imagine how many unprofessional fights are on there? Actually,

446
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: pops fifty.

447
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: Fifty four and six with thirty four ks now, So

448
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: he's been fighting his whole life.

449
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: Thirty nine years old old, thirty nine years old, So

450
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 4: U d With that being said, Jake Paul laying minus

451
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 4: laying seven hundred freaking points? Which one you taking, coach?

452
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: Are you taking the chance of you.

453
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 3: See what bothers?

454
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 6: Years old?

455
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: No, listen, this is what bothers me.

456
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: As we look up here, it says he is the

457
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: son of former three division world champion of boxing.

458
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: Julio says, nine is tough. Yeah, but why he ain't

459
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: got no accolades?

460
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well he did, okay, he hed a WBC

461
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: middleweight title in twenty eleven to twenty twelve, so he

462
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: he legit.

463
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: He put them palls on. Yeah, huh, just a little.

464
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 5: Old clearly, what way you know we be fighting that

465
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 5: here though?

466
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Who because his dad was a is that little bit away?

467
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 5: Hey?

468
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I'm inclined to say, Julio says our Chavis Jr.

469
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: Just because got the blood of a goat like this.

470
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: There's nothing like a little gold.

471
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: This is like a little go And he's legit. Fifty

472
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: four and six KOs and listen.

473
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: And when you're saying that you're laying, you're getting great value.

474
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: And he thirty nine years old. But see then I

475
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: go back to the fact that I thought Mike Tyson

476
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: was gonna kill him too, because of Mike Tyson's track

477
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: record and how and what he was able to do,

478
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: and it just don't translate when you get a little older.

479
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, Dald, who you got killed? You go

480
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: first on this one.

481
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm probably gonna just I would probably

482
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: go I think Jake paul wins the fight. I'm probably

483
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: gonna lay the one hundred dollars to win four hundred

484
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 4: and seventy five dollars, because.

485
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 5: Laying seven hundred.

486
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: Dollars to win one hundred dollars, that's just that just

487
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: seems a little great math math And.

488
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: It's one touch.

489
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: Think ye that math.

490
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 5: You put the Pauls and I got you put him

491
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 5: on his back.

492
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: So you're just going with what's the best bet I got?

493
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean at this point, but that's that's what That's

494
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: what these these linemakers do. They force you did they forciated,

495
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 4: Like if you sat there and said to do I

496
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: think Jake Paulson win this fight? I said, yes, am,

497
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: I gonna lay seven hundred dollars to one hundred. Probably

498
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: not so for you people at home, I'm going with

499
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: the money.

500
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: Who you got? Okayrect I got it? I got another

501
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: I got another question. Who is sponsoring this fight? This

502
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: is Jake Parul production. Yes, I'm taking Jake Parul this man,

503
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: this man, this man had like you remember what you

504
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: remember what Mickey told Rocky and Rocky too when when

505
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: club A Lane came and showed up, Hey woman, hey woman,

506
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: wh should come up with a real man.

507
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: I'll show you how to be a real man.

508
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: And Rocky was like, I want to fight this guy,

509
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: and Mickey told him behind the scenes, they was hand picked.

510
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: Every last one of them was hand picked. This been

511
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: going on fail. It ain't just start to day. Jake

512
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: Paul be hand picking the man. Ain't no way he finish.

513
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Come my hand loser who says he was hand picked?

514
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: Every last one.

515
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: Of them was picked. You got that guy down, Coach

516
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: Beck told me he was hand picked.

517
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: Where Rocky said he wanted to fight cuble Lane, Mickey was,

518
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't want no pots of it. I'm done now

519
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: you can have it because he knew cuble Lane gonna

520
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: whoop your ass, man, and I'm trying to protect you.

521
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: So it was hand picked.

522
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: I'm going Drake Falter, how many.

523
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 3: Hands you got, I'm going to my hands.

524
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Jake Paul hands his train of hands about ten hands

525
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: picked this fight.

526
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 5: All right, well you know what, go to draft gas

527
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: code OG's.

528
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: No, God, damn it killed.

529
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

530
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: I just got sixty fights, got sixty fights and thirty nine.

531
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: He was hand picked. But it's in his blood, boy,

532
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: so blood.

533
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 5: You're confusing our guys. They want to hand pick right

534
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: nowar wanted to places bet.

535
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: They got to figure on the bet button at DraftKings

536
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: back code O G's and you're like, you're stopping them

537
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 4: from push the button. There's so much money to potentially

538
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: want out here at their draft Kings right now.

539
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: It was a hand It was definitely a hand pick Killers.

540
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: But I'm going with I'm going with Is Jr. Because

541
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: he probably ain't gonna win the money if I if

542
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: he wins, your money is the money, you know what

543
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I gotta go with what give me

544
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: the best odds to make money?

545
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 5: All right, boy, guys, I guess here at the O

546
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 5: G S we're going with. We're going with the money.

547
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but productions ain't ain't picky.

548
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: No, no, you're not going away. It was a hand picked.

549
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 5: Hey draft.

550
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: Mickey said it was hand pick I'm going with Jake Paul.

551
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 5: It's Jake Paul.

552
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Go lay the number out. Yeah, tell me about the

553
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: state of Florida and foot ball in the state of Florida. Why,

554
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: because it was a time where the state of Florida

555
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: dominated college football dominated.

556
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: I mean it's Florida State.

557
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: For yes, Florida State, but that ain't we don't have

558
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: that no more take for the kids to stay home.

559
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: We used to have the kids staying home.

560
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. It's right now,

561
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: there's so many opportunities other places. You gotta remember, like

562
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: if you went to Florida State Florida or Florida State Florida,

563
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Florida State, Miami, you didn't play as a freshman. You

564
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: you were actually sitting behind yeah pro All America.

565
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: I remember at one point we had Corey Simon who

567
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: wasn't a starter, but he was All American. So like

568
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: and coach Bownce used to tell us, don't get hurt.

569
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: That was that was legit. Like you got to remember, like.

570
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: Everybody at every position was either a five star four star.

571
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: So you're talking about coming in as being the man.

572
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: Everybody else was the man team.

573
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: So you had to wait your turn. You gotta Charlie Ward.

574
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Charlie Ward played as a junior. You know what he

575
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: did his first two years?

576
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: Punted?

577
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't even know that. No, look at Charlie,

578
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Charlie Ward. Ain't nobody know that?

579
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: You heard? O?

580
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: Geez man? Well put it.

581
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: Charlie know that his first two years, I thought I

582
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: knew everything. Bro was good at Puddy.

583
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 5: Do everything.

584
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, like at that time, going

585
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: to Florida State, Miami, Florida, you gotta wait your turn

586
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: like it wasn't.

587
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

588
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm going in here and I'm playing as a truth.

589
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: Dang no, because you got an All American in front,

590
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: you got three All Americans in front of you.

591
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: Did your family have any influence on where you went? Nah,

592
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: it was all up to you. It was up to me.

593
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: My dad went to Georgia Tech. I got recruited at

594
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech to play quarterback. My mom Miami and Hurricane fan. Yeah,

595
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, I would love for

596
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: you to go to Miami, but it's your decision. And

597
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: actually I had the the best opportunity to start at

598
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Miami early. So when I was at when I when

599
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I was recruited at Miami, they told me if if

600
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I committed, they wouldn't recruit any more quarterbacks. And then

601
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: they had as Randy Shannon. Nah, it was what's the

602
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: guy named? He ended up coaching at Cleveland too. You

603
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: can't even get over this. Keep you saying recruiting is

604
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback to me?

605
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

606
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: The quarterback at Miami at the time he was playing

607
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: baseball and he wasn't He wasn't there in the spring.

608
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: He would go play professional baseball. So they wanted me

609
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: to graduate early in January and come compete for the

610
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: starting job in the spring because the starting quarterback wasn't there.

611
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Kenny Kelly. Kenny Kelly, Okay went to Tampa Cathey.

612
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

613
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he played professional baseball. So they was like, you,

614
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: you have a real opportunity to come and compete right away.

615
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: You got all your credits, you know what I'm saying.

616
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: The only thing you got to do, just you know,

617
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: finish up what you gotta do. Come in January. And

618
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I thought about it, but for me, Miami was too

619
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: close to home, Like I wanted to get away from

620
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: home a little bit, you know what I'm saying not

621
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: too far, but get away from home, and I get it.

622
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Miami was right up the road. So that's that's probably

623
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: the reason why I didn't go to Miami. So you

624
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: went to three visits or more. I stayed Florida Miami,

625
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: so I was I actually started getting recruited by Ohio.

626
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State was the first first school to recruit me.

627
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: My after my freshman year, going to my sophomore year,

628
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I started getting letters from Ohio State, and then I

629
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: got started getting recruited by Notre Dame, and then the Florida,

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: Florida school started coming after that, Florida, Florida State, Miami obviously,

631
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: and then all the other schools after that. But Ohio

632
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: State was the first first school to recruit. So let's

633
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: talk about your visit to Florida. What Mike want to

634
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: bring that up? So you know, me and me and

635
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Kuan go way back, We go way back. We actually

636
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: work out at the same gym. Now you welcome to

637
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: join us if you put them beers down and show up,

638
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: we get it. So when you took your visit to Florida,

639
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: just go ahead and run through the story. Mike might

640
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: want to tell people that I'm the reason why you

641
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: ain't coming to Florida. I don't believe I'm the reason

642
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: why you ain't coming back. I don't believe the reason

643
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I didn't come to Florida is because Spurrier. Like I

644
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: just didn't trust Spurrier. And I remember on my visit

645
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: being in his office and like, dude, could not look

646
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: me in my eye. And the whole time I'm in

647
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: his office, he has a putter he try to in

648
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: his office, he's putting, and as he's putting, he was like,

649
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: they say, I wouldn't play a black quarterback. Oh, Steve, damn,

650
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: they don't know I had a black quarterback at Dude.

651
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you know what.

652
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: Steve never looked at it. And I was like, yeah,

653
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: off the hook man.

654
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Listen. They go to a party football players. I'm at

655
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: a party with basketball players.

656
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: Now.

657
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: One of my teammates got rest is soul Major Parker.

658
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. His girlfriend at the time

659
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: was at the football party. She's getting he's at the

660
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 2: football party. Obviously he's being recruited by the football players.

661
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: She said in one of the football dudes chill, Yeah,

662
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: it was uh d Jack. Sara Jackson played in the

663
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: league to Djack played at Seattle. I actually played against

664
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: D Jack and so they both went to Temp Tempa Catholic.

665
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: D Jack and Kenny Kelly. I played against them my

666
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: sophomore year in high school. They were seniors, and I

667
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: think Kenny Kelly had no D Jack had just broke

668
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: the national record like for receiving, and then Kenny Kelly

669
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: was like the top quarterback.

670
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I know, DJ was nice. He brought the record. So

671
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I played against them my MYO my sophomore year. So

672
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: we ended up beating them in the playoffs and knocking

673
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: them out. So when I go to Florida on my visit, yeah,

674
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: so they were Yeah, he was one of the hosts.

675
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: So we're We're at D Jack's crib. So you know

676
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: how like before you go out, like dudes playing video

677
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: games and you know what I'm saying, everybody over to

678
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: the crib chilling. So Djack sitting down, he's playing the game,

679
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: and he gets up to use the bathroom and then

680
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: this girl like sits in his seat. So when he

681
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: comes back, he uh, he was like, yo, let me

682
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: get my seat. So she was like nah, Like he

683
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: was like what, like, like you ain't my crib like,

684
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: so they started going back and forth. Djack ended up

685
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: smacking the chick, so we didn't know that it was

686
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Major's girl who he smacked, So I guess she ended

687
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: up leaving her and the homegirls they ended up leaving,

688
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: and a little bit later we go out. So we

689
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: go to this club and like, the basketball team's already

690
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: acted at the spot and yeah, so then we come

691
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: in and we not even ten minutes in the club,

692
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: football team and the basketball team started fighting, and we

693
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: were cruise. We're like, man, what's going on? Like they tripped, man,

694
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: So they cleared the whole club out. We outside just chilling, like, man,

695
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: what just happened?

696
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: Like, so man, listen, she calls Major crying hysterically. You know,

697
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: automatically what your woman called hysterically? You you you already

698
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: own I gotta protect my woman mode. So he already

699
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: protected women mode. So she give him the story. So

700
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: we get to the club that night and I already

701
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: know what time it is. It's one hundred and thirty

702
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: of them we ain't got, but twelve of us we got.

703
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: We got to be efficient. So they approached us and

704
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: they going back and forth. So I'm standing there with

705
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Major and you know, d Jack come up and he

706
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: got a ken Yalla kN y'alla walker. You know what

707
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, shout out nyall, ain't no more beef. That's

708
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: over with kids, these kids, So you feel like with

709
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: k yalla man. So they going back and forth, Major

710
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: going back and forth with with with d Jack, and

711
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: then kN Yalla talking, and then me and kN y'alla

712
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: start having some words. But immediately I'm looking at how

713
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: many they got, and I'm looking at how many we got,

714
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: and I'm saying the math, fame math.

715
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: And now I ain't go to squirre for much, but

716
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: I know how to count.

717
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: So I say, I say, we got to make the

718
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: move if it's gonna happen, because if they jump on

719
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: us first, we're gonna get our asses whooped. So yeah,

720
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: I was the first one to throw the punch and

721
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: and it went on from there and I ain't go

722
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: to jail and a couple of people did. It's on them,

723
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, I threw the first punch. I admit that

724
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: I did throw the first. Didn't call the muscle in

725
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: who is the muscle? Talking about who killer was? They

726
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: killer was at the gym.

727
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Shoot.

728
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Shoot, Listen, it's funny that it's funny that you said

729
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: that because Theeve Spurrier called Billy Donovas. I don't care

730
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: what you do, but keep him away from all my guys.

731
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: I started to say, Spray, I whooped your ass too, Okay, so.

732
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 5: We got it out of it. By the way, Spray,

733
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: let you off the hook because I'd love to see

734
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 5: him in the Gator uniform.

735
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: I would have loved to see him I get a

736
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: uniform too, I listen, I didn't know that that was

737
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna you know, well the man, No, the man was

738
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: putting he never recruited a black quarterback.

739
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: That's what yeah, ain't. Nobody asked you to go down

740
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: that glory road home asked you. That's Steve, that's where

741
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: you blew it at.

742
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: Listen, anytime you invite a black person over and say

743
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: they say, I don't invite black people over, but that

744
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: means that lets us know right there you ain't used

745
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: to having black people over, Steve, Like, that's where you

746
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: blew it at.

747
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with me at all.

748
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: It was when you said that you never told me

749
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: that when you invited me to your house in South Dakota. Yeah,

750
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: you know, I had another black guy here we could go,

751
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: so you ain't the only one. I would have never

752
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: put you again. That would have been the beginning and

753
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: end of me and your relationship, and I'd have never

754
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: been back to South Dakota. That's crazy as hell to

755
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: say something like that. That's one of those things where

756
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: people don't know that's kind of rude.

757
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: Tell him that this is rude. That was rude last week.

758
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: I had another black guy over last week, killer, So

759
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: you ain't the first one. Just know, I like black people.

760
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: Get the guy out of here. You can't say that.

761
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: You can't say that a good thing that happened back

762
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: in like the two thousand early because if you say

763
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: that right now today, your ass is cancel your asses, council.

764
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: You can't say that, Yeah, man, this man so now

765
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: you get drafted second round. That had a chip on

766
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: your shoulder because I know me be undrafted. I still

767
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: got a chip today. I still know who got drafted.

768
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: And when I didn't tell me about that, how that

769
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: felt they are? Yeah, I felt like it was a

770
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was disrespectful. I mean, everybody think they're

771
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: supposed to get drafted high now I remember, uh, like

772
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: going to the comebine and then you have like your

773
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: meetings with different teams or whatever. And I remember being

774
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: in the I actually went in in a meeting with

775
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Detroit and the GM at the time. He asked me,

776
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: he said, we have Charles Rogers and we have you.

777
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: He said, why would why would we draft you before we.

778
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 5: Drafted Charles Rogers from Michigan State.

779
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, receiver, so.

780
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I told him, I said, like, not being

781
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: cocky or anything, I said, I'm just better, that's right,

782
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: stand up, like, you know, no disrespect to him or whatever.

783
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: He's a great talent, but I'm just better. So he

784
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: was like, you really think that, huh. I was like,

785
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: of course. Fast forward, they drafted Charles Rogers. I think

786
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: we're like the number two pick, and I got drafted

787
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: by Arizona with the fifty fourth pick.

788
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: And here's the crazy part.

789
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: So like I got drafted by Arizona, but I was

790
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: actually the third pick for Arizona. What Arizona had the

791
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: sixteenth and the seventeenth pick, or the seventeenth and the eighteen.

792
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: So they picked a receiver Brian Johnson with the seventeenth

793
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: picked out of Penn State and they were and they

794
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: picked Calvin.

795
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: Pace, a d N from Wake four.

796
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and I knew, you know what I'm saying because

797
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: we played against each other Florida State with Ford same

798
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, acc or whatever. So I'm I mean, I'm

799
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: coming to camp with a chip, like they really don't know,

800
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So we were

801
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: going to training camp and obviously as a rookie you

802
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: start at the bottom.

803
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 6: But like.

804
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: We had many camps and I remember going back home

805
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and I told my cousin. I was like, man, I'm

806
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: gonna be starting like when we start, when we start

807
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: to fall. He was like, man, whatever, he was like,

808
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: this is the lead. This ain't this ain't college. I

809
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, all right, bet. So we get to we

810
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: get to preseason and I can I remember my coach like,

811
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going with the starters in practice, but when

812
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: we get to like the game, he's not letting me play.

813
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what's going on?

814
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: Like and I said something to him. I'm like, coach,

815
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: it was coach mac Coach.

816
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: Mackhamlay that you're gonna say what you got to say

817
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: to I'm like, coach man, like, what's what's going on?

818
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm running with the ones and stuff in practice,

819
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like we get the preseason,

820
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: like I ain't getting no burn Like what's what's good?

821
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: He was like, just be patient.

822
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: I got you. So I'm like, I'm still it ain't registering.

823
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 4: To me during this hold on during this the kid

824
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 4: the water Shoes picked sixteen. Was he was he playing

825
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 4: the preseason games?

826
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, BJ was playing because he was a he was

827
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick, so like, obviously you don't have

828
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: every opportunity successful, you know what I'm saying.

829
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: Like I was just curious to.

830
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: So yeah he was.

831
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: He was Actually he was actually getting burns. So I'm like,

832
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: all right, so I'm just you know, waiting it out

833
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. So you know, the only thing they really

834
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: had me doing that preseason was returning punts. So I'm

835
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, I'm returning punts, making plays. But still I'm like, man,

836
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't really getting burns like that. I

837
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't really play that much in the preseason. Come the

838
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: first game we played.

839
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: Detroit Area seventeen of them, so we played. Asked you.

840
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Look that we played Detroit the first game, and like

841
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: he said, I had ten catches, two hundred and seventeen

842
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. Man and the GM from Detroit.

843
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: He came up to me after the game, he said,

844
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: you weren't playing.

845
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 5: I respect that.

846
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: I respect that too.

847
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: I respect that.

848
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: I said, I told you, I respect that. And then

849
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: my head coach he came to me after the game.

850
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: He was like, I told you, I got you. He

851
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't want to show everybody what we had,

852
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, cool, Like now it makes sense,

853
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: but at the time, I'm just like, I.

854
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Want to point out one thing because it's so different nowadays.

855
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: When you said you came home and you told your cousin,

856
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: you said, I'm gonna be starting, and what he said,

857
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: this ain't the league. Nah, this is difference. Our homeboys

858
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: used to tell us and challenge us. Nowadays they got yes, men,

859
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: you would have came home today. I'm gonna start you

860
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: damn right, You're gonna start.

861
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: Boy, You're gonna get it.

862
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: This is the difference in the generations that we're talking about. Dog, Yeah,

863
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: I would have came home.

864
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: Listen.

865
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: The reason why I played so good in the finals

866
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: because I was petrified because if dirt cooked me. My

867
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: homeboys gonna let me know, boy, you got your ass

868
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: fried on TV.

869
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 3: We saw it. They gonna let by dirty the German.

870
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: He cooked your ass. We've seen it. You can say

871
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: what you want to say, gangster, you got cooked.

872
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: Now. That's gonna make me go out there and play

873
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: even harder. That's gonna create a chip on my shoulder,

874
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: even bigger than the chip already got this generation. I'm

875
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: gonna start, boy, you damn right, you're gonna start. You're

876
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna get a thousand yards and fifteen touchdown. I don't

877
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 2: know what takes get a thousand yards, don't know about

878
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: getting no touchdowns, but they gonna tell you everything you

879
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: want to hear. That does not make you better. For

880
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: you young sitting at home, please get them yes man

881
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: at your circle. Coming from people that didn't have yes men,

882
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: we are telling you you getting yes man out your circle,

883
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: dog for real.

884
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: I get so tired of that.

885
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: Man. I go to city, but I'll be saying to myself,

886
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: who are your friends? Ain't nobody telling you you're wrong?

887
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody around you telling you that you tripping? Because

888
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: our homeboys should tell us quick.

889
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: But I mean more, our homeboys it was our coaches

890
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: were real with us. Yeah you know what I'm saying,

891
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: true everybody. I mean, you gotta think like nowadays, like

892
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: these kids get told they the greatest thing since like

893
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: break telling.

894
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: They get feelings, they don't they take it as disrespectful

895
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying them, or they disrespect part.

896
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 5: Of what happens.

897
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: Like the parents are soft too now because they're giving

898
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: them all their I mean you gotta get to nipple

899
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: out them out at some point, like literally, because the

900
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: kids now I watch it from the very early age,

901
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: like they're they're so afraid they're going to transfer AU programs.

902
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: They're so afraid they're gonna leave high schools, they're so

903
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: afraid they're.

904
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: Going to transfer college. So you always gotta be like,

905
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: oh you're okay, you're okay.

906
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: Like the parents aren't the ones that like us as

907
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: my kids, Like, Yo, what are you doing your job

908
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: in practice? Are you like these guys like Oh, he's

909
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: got to be I know, he says to you, just

910
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: saying oh he's always doing this right.

911
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: No, you ain't there right.

912
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: And that's the thing as a parent you have to

913
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: A parent has to be honest with you. So if

914
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: you if your child come to you and say coach

915
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: not playing. Wow, you don't go to the coach exactly,

916
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: that's the first question. Why what And if he's saying,

917
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: like the coach don't the coach don't like you, well,

918
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: here here's what I do know. I've never seen a

919
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: coach who hated the hardest worker. I'm saying, or hat

920
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: that's a bar.

921
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: So that's a bar.

922
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: If the coach don't like you, go be the hardest

923
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: work on the team.

924
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: I guarantee you'll like you tomorrow. Is a guarantee.

925
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, right, first first coach in the race.

926
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody say it's always somebody else's exactly like,

927
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm not about to go talk to no coaching when

928
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: you have a saying whether you playing, if you want

929
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: to play, go work your butt, go be the hardest

930
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: work on the floor, and I guarantee you.

931
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: The coach will play.

932
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

933
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: You have the conversation, Hey, I might not be playing

934
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: quarterback and I play the wide receivers, then all right, cool,

935
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna figure out.

936
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: To get.

937
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: And I'm just going over there just to go over it.

938
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over there and be the best bid receiver.

939
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: You got go prove to them that you're an asset

940
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: to the team. They're not gonna sit you on the

941
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: bench being the best player on the team. I've never

942
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: unless he's trying to get fired.

943
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: Exactly what I'm saying. Coaches, don't hold on that one.

944
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen the coach, not like the hardest

945
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: worker that's hold on to that one.

946
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 5: That's good.

947
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: So you get you. You in Arizona, you got Larry,

948
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: got Kurt Warner.

949
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: That that team was so fun to walk, legendary, a

950
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 5: lot of money.

951
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: On legendary offense, record record breaking offense. Man, But tell

952
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: me about that, the great Kurt Warner and obviously Larry

953
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: and just playing with them, what you were able to learn,

954
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: what you're able to pick up in just that overall experience.

955
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like playing in Arizona, it was it was like

956
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: a a tale of two halves. Because like when I

957
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: first went to Arizona, like we were to laugh and

958
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: stop of the NFL, And I remember when I got drafted,

959
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: and obviously you excited because you got drafted, and then

960
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm like Arizona a football team. That's That's honestly what

961
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: I said.

962
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't.

963
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't ever remember seeing Arizona play.

964
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: On TV point point Yeah.

965
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, Arizona.

966
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: And then when I go out there, like I remember

967
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: my first first time I had a you know, talking

968
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: to reporters or whatever.

969
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: They was like, what's your goals for this year? And

970
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm trying to make the playoffs. Like

971
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: they was like it's like Jim Moore was like, we

972
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: don't say that word around here. That's crazy.

973
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: But you got to remember I came from Florida State,

974
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. In my two three years

975
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: playing at Florida State, we played in two national championships.

976
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: So I only know like in high school, you know

977
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we win, like that's all I know.

978
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: So like I'm coming to the league and they're telling

979
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: me like you gotta take taper down, like your expectations

980
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: like this.

981
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Ain't this, ain't that, like we ain't that good here,

982
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you don't understand.

983
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: That sounds terrible so to me, Like even my rookie year,

984
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: I remember having a great year individually, but like going

985
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: home mad after every game because we losing as a team. Yeah,

986
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: you breaking records and you're doing all this other stuff,

987
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: but like I want to win, and then you gotta

988
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: go home and you you guys played, you know how bad?

989
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: It sucks like watching somebody else man.

990
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a year after year, I'm like, bro, I

991
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: want to be in the playoffs, Like I want that,

992
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. No, So for me,

993
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: like my first couple of years in Arizona was real frustrating,

994
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: and so we ended up uh hiring Denny Green. And

995
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: when Denny Green came out, like I just I just

996
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: went to him like, hey, coach man, I got a

997
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: couple of dudes that I know can help us win.

998
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know you have celebrity basketball. Come out

999
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: recruiting dude, like yeah, come rock with me in Arizona

1000
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: like the weather Grade. So I started Edrian James. That's

1001
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: how EJK A couple of other dudes, you know what

1002
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, I'm like, hey, bro, we I got

1003
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: to turn this around.

1004
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: What's up?

1005
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: So I'm going to.

1006
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: Get other dudes like to play with us.

1007
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: So it was me fits and then we ended up

1008
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: getting Kurt and then Kurt had just came from New

1009
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: York at the time where he was going back and

1010
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: forth I think him, and then they ended up drafting Eli,

1011
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: so like he didn't get a fair shake in New

1012
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: York and then he ended up coming over to us

1013
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: and he played like the first year he came over.

1014
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: But then they ended up drafting Matt Liner, and then

1015
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: they ended up firing Denny Green and getting Ken Wooden Hunt.

1016
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: So like at that point they were actually playing Kurt

1017
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: wasn't the starter. They were starting Matt Line. Kurt got inserted,

1018
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: so crazy part like Kurt was actually better than Matt,

1019
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, but because they drafted Matt in the

1020
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: first round, he was a top ten pick. Yep, they

1021
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: were playing Matt and then like it had come a

1022
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: certain point in the game where we would try to

1023
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: get the offense going. So they had packages for Kirk,

1024
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: so they would bring Kurt in, you know what I'm saying,

1025
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: gives the offensive sparks or whatever, and then you know,

1026
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: they'll bring Matts teams and we were like, man, come

1027
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: on like that.

1028
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: As receiving man. Putt Kurt in that let us rock,

1029
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: you know.

1030
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Then Matt ended up getting hurt. He

1031
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: dude hit him came off the edge on the blitz

1032
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: and ended up fracturing his collar bone. So when Kurt

1033
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: got in, we like, not that we want Matt to

1034
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah, we like bi time Kirk got in,

1035
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: we rolling. I think with Kurt, I think three years

1036
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: in the row we ended up leading the league and

1037
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: like passing.

1038
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: So one of that things fly, Yeah, let it fly.

1039
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question because you talked about

1040
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: going out recruiting guys, and this is one thing that

1041
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: it's real easy in basketball. It's real easy to recruit guys,

1042
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: and it's real easy to have a connected locker room

1043
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: because it's only like fifteen, sixteen, maybe seventeen of us.

1044
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: How hard is it in a football locker room with

1045
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: what's one hundred and some guys?

1046
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: How many? How many guys it's fifty three like on

1047
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: the on the day.

1048
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: Then you got practice squad, Yeah, and you got how

1049
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: hard is it to have a connected group and do

1050
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: the receivers hand the receivers or because I know one

1051
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: thing about sports, Yeah, you can have the coaches and

1052
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: you can have the exits and those, but you got

1053
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: to put them dudes in the locker room because when

1054
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: you feel like you're playing with your brother as opposed

1055
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: to just a teammate, right you give it, you're going

1056
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: a whole another extra yard that you might not have

1057
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: went for that teammate that you're punching at nine to five,

1058
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: for your brother that you're going to war with.

1059
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: So I think in football it's a little more difficult

1060
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: obviously than basketball because you have a lot of a

1061
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: lot more moving pieces and you have salary cap, you

1062
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1063
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: So for us, it's.

1064
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: We can go try to get you know what I'm saying,

1065
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: whoever it is that we want to come in and

1066
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: rock with us. But do they fit in the salary cap,

1067
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And are they the type

1068
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: of player that's gonna benefit Because you can go get

1069
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: a dude who's good, and y'all know, like every dude

1070
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: that's good is.

1071
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: Not good for the locker room.

1072
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly.

1073
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: You can go get somebody who's a you know what

1074
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying, a beast on the field, Like he'll tear

1075
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: your locker room up, you know what I'm saying. So,

1076
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: like you gotta be careful, and I think a lot

1077
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: of times, like GMS, they look at just the talent,

1078
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: and they don't understand, like how a locker room works.

1079
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: There's there's one guy in the locker room who you

1080
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: cannot remove from the locker room.

1081
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 5: And if every sport and every sport, and if you.

1082
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: Remove one guy from the locker room, is gonna tear

1083
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: the whole great point, it's a great point.

1084
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: And they don't. They don't, but they don't get there.

1085
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: And they think it's that.

1086
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great head coaches out there, but

1087
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: head coaches do not run the team. When you win championships,

1088
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: it's best players players that run the team. All of

1089
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: the championship teams that I've been on have actually been

1090
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: run by players. That's beautiful. Like, and I'm no disrest

1091
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: I've had some great coaches, but if a coach has

1092
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: to coach every day.

1093
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: Your team ain't gonna be that good. You know that, Mike,

1094
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: You remember these times in the game. As great as

1095
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: Foe was, every times in the game where bron would

1096
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: be like, don't even look over there, Yeah.

1097
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: Don't look at him, and we're not doing that. Yeah,

1098
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: he can't help.

1099
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: But there was times in the and when I played

1100
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, there was a time where we Joe, we're

1101
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: not doing that. When I was in Arizona, I remember

1102
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: when Wizard Hunt first came. So it was Me, Fits,

1103
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: Uh Kurk, and then we had my homeboy, Steve Breston.

1104
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: So Me, Fits and Steve all went over a thousand

1105
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: yards one year, and then there was another year where

1106
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: me and Yeah, there was another year that me and

1107
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: Fits went over fourteen hundred yards.

1108
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: By the way, so today that had been like even

1109
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: more because yeah, that was that was like an outlier

1110
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: man right then.

1111
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it's crazy.

1112
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Back then, I remember when Wizard Hunt came, Like me,

1113
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: Fits and Kirk, we were already established, and then they

1114
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: came and they tried to change some stuff that we

1115
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: were doing, like in the offense or whatever, and we

1116
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: were like, bro, we're not doing that.

1117
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 5: Sees, that drives me crazy. This is working. Why are

1118
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 5: we changing that? Right?

1119
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: Analytics coming into play, I wasn't so much of that.

1120
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: It was just where he was.

1121
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: They were used to doing a certain thing, and that's

1122
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: how you know. Coaches are like, that's the way.

1123
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: They do to me.

1124
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, drives me so crazy. Even in basketball, coaching is

1125
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: not a is not a system. It's personnel. I agree, right, Like,

1126
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: you can have the best system in the world if

1127
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: if it doesn't fit your personnel, you're not Like if

1128
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: you like you take playoff basketball for example, right now

1129
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 4: you have to make those adjustments based on your personnel.

1130
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 4: But you already have Like you can be the best

1131
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: system d'An TONI right, awesome basketball coach, But you go

1132
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 4: put them in a certain team. You can't keep running

1133
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 4: the same system.

1134
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: Now.

1135
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 4: You gotta be able. You gotta change, you gotta pivot,

1136
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 4: you gonna move. You gotta coach your personnel. You don't

1137
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: coach a system.

1138
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

1139
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: Like when I watch out play, like y'all are so

1140
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: dynamic offensively to even hear that sounds crazy to me.

1141
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 3: I knew they were dynamic.

1142
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 5: Was that right after the Super Bowl stuff? Or when

1143
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: was that?

1144
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: That was before the super Bowl?

1145
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 5: And so what happens? So talk to me about that?

1146
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: So we I mean again we buck We're like, we're

1147
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: not doing that, bro, Like this is how we do

1148
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: do things here. Like either you get on board, you

1149
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they came in they met

1150
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: with us or whatever, Like Okay, you know what I'm

1151
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: saying we'll blended, like like, bro, we're gonna do what

1152
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: we do regardless, Like the offense ain't been the problem. Yeah,

1153
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: that was That was actually what we told defense problem,

1154
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like there was just certain

1155
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: times where we just knew we were going to have

1156
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: to outscore the next team, like hey bro, like we

1157
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: would saying in the huddle, hey bro, like we got

1158
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: to score every time you touch the ball, like and

1159
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: that's legit. But when I got to Baltimore, it was different,

1160
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Like the team was built different. It was run the

1161
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: ball and defense, you know what I'm saying. And that

1162
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: was the culture in Baltimore. Now you add in a

1163
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: playmaker who can you know what I'm saying, make plays

1164
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: when you need him, Like you ain't got to throw

1165
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: me the ball ten times again because I want to

1166
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: go hit somebody.

1167
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: I want to you know what I'm saying.

1168
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: Like all of that, but like when it comes down

1169
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: to it, you need to clutch third down, you need

1170
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: to touch whatever it is.

1171
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm here.

1172
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: Talk about that. Uh that Super Bowl run with the

1173
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens and now he brought them up.

1174
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Uh, A lot of people don't know.

1175
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: It was a lot of druma going going on that year.

1176
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got into it with the coach again,

1177
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: some vets in the locker room. It was just, you know,

1178
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: he had his way of doing things and we felt

1179
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: like in order for us to win, we had to

1180
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: we had to change some of the things that we

1181
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: were doing. So, you know, we had some vets in

1182
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: the locker room. We had to come to Jesus meeting

1183
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: and it was it was uncomfortable for the coaches. But

1184
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: I felt like after that meeting, you know what I'm saying,

1185
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: they knew where we stood, and you know what I'm saying,

1186
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: they let us rock out. And from that point on,

1187
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: like you know how, you just hit, everything started hit,

1188
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you started getting in

1189
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: that groove.

1190
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: And then once the playoffs hit, we were rolling dog.

1191
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: And that's what you gotta have any time you're trying

1192
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: to anything, whether it be professional sports or business or

1193
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Man Like, if you trying to be

1194
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: your best version and you're trying to push the people around,

1195
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: you got to have them uncomfortable conversations. You you gotta

1196
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: have them out of eye uncomfortable conversations. One thing I

1197
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 2: don't believe in is putting your head down and walking

1198
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: away mumbling. Don't help nobody. Who you talking to it?

1199
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I hate to see that

1200
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: you get took out the game and you mumbling and

1201
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: walking down towards the end of the bench.

1202
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 5: With your head.

1203
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: Who are you talking about? Who are you talking to?

1204
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: That does not help me to a little stint of coaching.

1205
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: When that would happen, I wanted to take that basketball

1206
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: and rifle.

1207
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 5: On the rug.

1208
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: Nobody dog. It's the most uncomfortable thing to do.

1209
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: But to go out of out of that person and

1210
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: to have that conversation, I guarantee afford that don't help,

1211
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: and you guarantee don't.

1212
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 5: Take it personal.

1213
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: It's not a personal but you also respect you also,

1214
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, whoever it is that's across

1215
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: from you, if they can have that conversation, even if

1216
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: we don't, you, bro, I see where you're coming from.

1217
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: But I don't agree with you. Yes, you know what

1218
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I can live with that, yes, But

1219
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: you go and say this to that person and then this,

1220
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: well I can't.

1221
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: I can't.

1222
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: That's what causes so you you know what I'm saying.

1223
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: I think you have to be open and honest. Hey, bro,

1224
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: like we've.

1225
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 4: Grown and both people gotta walk away from not taking

1226
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: it personal. Boy Champ James Jones always saying, don't take

1227
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: it personal, just take it with you.

1228
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Don't take a person to just take away you.

1229
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Chap did used to say that that's a good I.

1230
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 5: Forgot about that. Don't take it personal, just take it

1231
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: with you.

1232
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the legendary because I don't know

1233
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: if it was a broken face or broken jaw. I

1234
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: remember it when you was playing, and I remember being

1235
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm tough boy, I ain't break my face, Joe. I

1236
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: don't know. I'ma have to sit thise cool to sit.

1237
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: This will not Yeah, we bout that man, and it's

1238
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: just playing with it and how that happened and all

1239
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: that we were.

1240
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: We were in New York.

1241
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: We were playing the Jets, so we actually stayed and

1242
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: we stayed in d C because we had two East

1243
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Coast trips. So instead of going back to Arizona, we

1244
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: played uh we played Washington in d C. And we

1245
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: stayed there during the week. So we practiced there during

1246
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: the week and then we took the train up to

1247
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: New York. Played the Jets that next Sunday, So.

1248
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 5: The whole team on the train.

1249
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just brought out the train. It was actually cool.

1250
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: So we we go to New York.

1251
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: It was I mean it was actually a high scoring game.

1252
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: That was when Brett Farr was in uh New York.

1253
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: He was with the Jets. He was playing quarterback for

1254
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: the Jets. And then towards the end of the game,

1255
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I remember Kurt throwing a throwing a scene route and

1256
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: he threw the He threw the scene route and I

1257
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: turned to catch it like this and the safety he

1258
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: hit me from behind. It hit my helmet, and my

1259
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: helmet like lifted up like this. And then a guy

1260
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: coming face on like the other safety hit me here

1261
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: and so it fractured. I had signis practice here. So

1262
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I have six plates and forty screws. I got three plates.

1263
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah what six place?

1264
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, so I got I don't know why

1265
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: you walked all them up for everybody, sixth place and

1266
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: forty screws.

1267
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: I got three on this side, twenty screws, three on

1268
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: this side, twenty screws.

1269
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't take my glass off something.

1270
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 5: And when did you How long did you say that

1271
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 5: I missed two games?

1272
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: It is two years, So I had I went to

1273
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: the I went to the doctor, and I went to

1274
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: the doctor. I went to the doctor. I had surgery

1275
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. And the doctor told me I was gonna

1276
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: be out for the to the year because they had

1277
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: it was a hockey player who had just had the

1278
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: same injury. He was done for the year. So they

1279
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're done for the year whatever whatever.

1280
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I ain't done. So he was like, uh, well,

1281
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: we'll see how you progress, how you're healing, goals or whatever.

1282
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: And I remember I came home. I'm at the I'm

1283
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: at the crib, and my I was like Kanye after that. Yeah,

1284
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: so my face was and then I had my junk

1285
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: was wire shut. Yeah it was wi So I had

1286
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: to eat like yeah, like for real, Like my face

1287
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: was puffy. I had like a black eye, like black eyes,

1288
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: and then like it was wire shut.

1289
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: So like the only thing I can eat was like

1290
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: smoothies or like you know what I'm saying, soft food

1291
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1292
01:02:52,440 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: You drink Billy killing day, you could drink drink.

1293
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: So I remember being in the house and this is

1294
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: when AJ was Aj was young then, and I used

1295
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: to play with Aj all the time whatever. And I

1296
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: remember one day we was playing. It was probably like

1297
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: two days after the surgery. He's playing in the couch

1298
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: and I got him and he just head but boom,

1299
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: that hurts so bad. I dropped, you know, like somebody

1300
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: hits you right here. So I got my head done.

1301
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: He was like, Dad, you're okay. I'm like, give me

1302
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: a second.

1303
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1304
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was messed up.

1305
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: And then like so I sat in the house like

1306
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: two days, and then that third day I got up

1307
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: and mind you, I'm not taking medication. Like I don't

1308
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: take medication. So I'm sitting in the house the third

1309
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: day and I'm bored and I go upstairs. I changed

1310
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: my clothes and my wife was like, what are you doing?

1311
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: So I said, man, I'm about to go to facily

1312
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: and work out. She was like, you about to do what?

1313
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm about to go to the facility

1314
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: and work out. She was like, why would you be

1315
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: trying to work out. I said, because I'm going to

1316
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: play in a couple weeks. She was like, man, the

1317
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: man just told me dumb for you. So I was like, man,

1318
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm about to go work out. So my wife knows,

1319
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: like if I say a certain thing, like a certain way,

1320
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: like just leave them.

1321
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1322
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: So she was like all right whatever. Yeah.

1323
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: So and I timed it because the team usually goes

1324
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: on the field like ten to fifteen, So I got

1325
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: to get there when they're on the field, so nobody's

1326
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: in the building. They don't see me or nothing. So

1327
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: I remember it was like ten thirty, ten forty five.

1328
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: I go and I can see them on the field.

1329
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: So I come into the facility. I got on my

1330
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: hoodie and I go to the treadmill because I'm like,

1331
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: I need to be in shape when I come back.

1332
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: I hurt when you're running, bro.

1333
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I started running.

1334
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing like sprints on the treadmill, and I remember

1335
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: I get to like number six and the room starts.

1336
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: Spending, imagine yeah, and I'm like, yeah, you're right here,

1337
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: ain't eating.

1338
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the room starts spending. This first time I ever

1339
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: feel like this. So I just grabbed the side of

1340
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: the ta and I take a knee. I'm like, man,

1341
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: what am I doing?

1342
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1343
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: So I was like all right, I left, went home,

1344
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: came back the next day, so I was like, shoot,

1345
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm finna see if I can get the tea today.

1346
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: So the next day I was able to get the

1347
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: tea you just and then came back the following day,

1348
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to get fifteen. So like I'm going like

1349
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: working my you know what I'm saying, like my cardio. No.

1350
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: I remember going back to the doctor. He was like, man,

1351
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: you're healing up fast. He was like, uh, you might

1352
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: have a chance to play this year. I was like, oh,

1353
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm on play, like because for me, that was the

1354
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: best start we had to that year. Like that year,

1355
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: that was the best start we had since I had

1356
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: been there. Like my whole mindset was like we had

1357
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: never been to the playoffs, but we getting to the playoffs.

1358
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1359
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: So I was like I gotta come back to make sure.

1360
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: And so we had two games and then we had

1361
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: an off week and then I remember we going to

1362
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Carolina and Josh McCown, who he was actually in Arizona

1363
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: with me my first two years, and at that point,

1364
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, how you be on the injury pool, you know.

1365
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, like doubtful probably.

1366
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1367
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: So he ended up coming to the hotel and he

1368
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: saw me. He was like, bro, you're not trying to

1369
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: play all you I was like yeah. He was like,

1370
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: are you serious? And then he looked at my wife.

1371
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: She was like, So the next day we go out Carolina.

1372
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns, but the so I told the coach I

1373
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: wanted I want to get the ball early so I

1374
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: can I can get contact, just get it out the way.

1375
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: He said, all right, cool, gave me reverse. So I

1376
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: come around on the reverse boom, hit the sideline about

1377
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: thirty yards.

1378
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: I see two dudes. I just barrel into him. Yeah,

1379
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, I'm good. Let's go.

1380
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 5: I said, there's all this, all the respects, you're a

1381
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 5: sick and I absolutely love it.

1382
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it now. You had six six plays

1383
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: and I can do anything.

1384
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 5: We got guys missing mb A playoff games, little spraying.

1385
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: The ankle right now, I don't think I could do

1386
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: anything but that one.

1387
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1388
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: On the on the scale of one to ten, the pain,

1389
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: oh it was.

1390
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: The pain gets worse like at night because like everybody

1391
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: goes to sleep, you know what I'm saying, And like

1392
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: the only thing you got to concentrate on is pay

1393
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: nothing else going on. Like I said, I don't yeah,

1394
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't take medical pain medication. So like like you said,

1395
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: you just you feel a.

1396
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: Heartbeat and when you're when you're on that treadmill, I

1397
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 4: felt to them, I can't even ask this next question,

1398
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 4: but I have to ask it, like who's the toughest

1399
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: dB ever faced? Like I mean, I mean, give me,

1400
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: give me the toughest DV ever faced off, real toughest dB.

1401
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: Like when you do your line up against like, okay,

1402
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 5: get a party today.

1403
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of good dvs. But I think for me, honestly,

1404
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: I did. I never saw me like going against dbs.

1405
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: It was more me going against the defensive coordinators. Like

1406
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators trying to take you out of the game

1407
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: because I remember my my rookie year coming out and

1408
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: I forget what team we were playing, but they had

1409
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: a linebacker in front of me with the with a

1410
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: corner back like five yards behind him, and then a

1411
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: safety over top.

1412
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: Wow, and it was taking away everything. They take away

1413
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: short you take away the middle.

1414
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 1: Because they felt like in our passing game like you

1415
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: were you were the passing game. So if we take

1416
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: you out of the game, then we got a hands

1417
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: But it was okay, figure it out do you.

1418
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: Think based on that answer, And I don't know if

1419
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 4: this makes any sense to you, but based on that answer,

1420
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: do you think growing up playing quarterback to help you

1421
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 4: figure out them things?

1422
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, most definitely, because you have to look at

1423
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 5: the field completely different.

1424
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: A great questions. That's a great question from a non

1425
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: football player. That's a great question, killing man I had as.

1426
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: Man, listen, man, you don't speak this language.

1427
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 5: Killer.

1428
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: We're from Florida. We do this, even though I ain't

1429
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: make it past my tenth grade year.

1430
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: Flipped.

1431
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 3: I got flipped in the tenth grade and quit.

1432
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, we do that.

1433
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: We do this down here.

1434
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 5: But you definitely have to look at the field different

1435
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 5: because you see football different. Yeah.

1436
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: So like that frustrates you with the other quarterbacks sometimes,

1437
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 4: so like, yo, you don't see this.

1438
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it does when you' when you're a quarterback, you

1439
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: have to see the game. You have to see the

1440
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 1: game from the big picture. So like as a quarterback,

1441
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: you have to know what everybody is doing. As a

1442
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: receiver or just a position, you have to know what

1443
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: you are doing. But when I say you have to

1444
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: know what everybody is doing from a quarterback standpoint, I'm

1445
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: not just talking about everybody on your team. I'm talking

1446
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: about everybody on the field period. So you have to know,

1447
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: Like when I was playing quarterback, we used to have

1448
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: to call out front, So you have to know what

1449
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: front the defense is in, the defensive line is in.

1450
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: You have to know what protection your offense is in.

1451
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, like if we call

1452
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: scam protection, you only got five men in a protection,

1453
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So now if we got

1454
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: a six got coming, I got to be aware of that,

1455
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because if this six got come,

1456
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: and it can be if one of the three come,

1457
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm hot, you know what I'm saying. So, like all

1458
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: of this stuff is going through your mind because as

1459
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: as you're playing like so, like from from a quarterback standpoint,

1460
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: you gotta know what everybody is doing. You have to

1461
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: know what the defense is doing. And the thing I

1462
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: tell people about the NFL, whatever you see your defense

1463
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 1: lined up in, you can you can guarantee that's not

1464
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: going to be the Mars. Yeah wow, because they're gonna

1465
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna.

1466
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 5: Disguise every time otherwise are too good, they'll pick apart.

1467
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: So you have to you have to see this stuff

1468
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: on the fly, and it's like.

1469
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 5: Omaha, omaha, your reading when.

1470
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 1: He's saying like, oh, he's trying to get them to

1471
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: switch out of something, Yeah, show me what defense you're

1472
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: going to be in. And if you got a veteran defense,

1473
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: like when I was in Baltimore we played either if

1474
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: we played pay the man, pay manning, you don't set

1475
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: your defense until it's like five seconds on that club

1476
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: because now he doesn't have enough quarterback stuff over there,

1477
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: because now he doesn't have enough time to change the

1478
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: play get to another play, So now he just whatever

1479
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: he's running, he's running, you know what I'm saying. So

1480
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: like for us on defense, we just walk around, walk around,

1481
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: walk around, and he's trying to get guys to show,

1482
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 1: but nobody's showing. So guys are walking around walking around.

1483
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: You like you can be the left defensive end, but

1484
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: you might be way on this side. He's trying to

1485
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: get you to jump or you know what I'm saying,

1486
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: show show everybody, and then five seconds then you can

1487
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: get to where you're going and you still might have

1488
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: like a read at the line of scrimmage, but it's

1489
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: covered too. And when the bass snaps, he's deep half,

1490
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it happens like

1491
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: on the fly, and it split second decision.

1492
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 3: I've been to.

1493
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: I went to training camp with the Bears a few

1494
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: years ago, and I had the opportunity to watch. And

1495
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: I also went with the Dolphins, but I had the

1496
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: opportunity be in those rooms and those meetings. Oh it's crazy,

1497
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the film, the amount of film and

1498
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: the meetings. I mean, you'll go from an offensive meeting

1499
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: to a position meeting. Yeah, you go from team Okay,

1500
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 2: so we'll go from a.

1501
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: Team team meeting to an offensive meeting. And you'll go

1502
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: from an offensive meeting to your position meeting. So like,

1503
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: and I tell you this when like in the NFL,

1504
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: you can watch easily six hours of film a day easily, man,

1505
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: And that's like why you're at the facility. But then

1506
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: you go home and you still gotta watch film, you

1507
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, so like for us, everything

1508
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: that we do is is mostly film based. Like we're

1509
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: on the field at the most two hours, but the

1510
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: rest of it cause we I mean, say, our first

1511
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: meeting is seven o'clock. You might not lead a facility

1512
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: until about five, but majority of that is film. Like

1513
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: you will come in, we'll go over film. You know

1514
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What we're gonna do, We'll go walk through,

1515
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: and they film walkthroughs, so they film the walk through.

1516
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: You come back in, you watch the walk through, you

1517
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then you go out, you pre.

1518
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 5: Walk through.

1519
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: They got everything that they won't think about film is

1520
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: don't lie. But that's how you when you when you

1521
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: watch that much film, you are now ahead of the

1522
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: game because you you now know. And for us, like

1523
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: on offense, as a receiver, I know what what coverage

1524
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: it is based off of the defensive line, the front,

1525
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: because they only run certain fronts with certain coverage, you

1526
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like, and that's if you're

1527
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: a student of the So you now you're looking to

1528
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: see if he's in a three technique or whatever it is,

1529
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: because now you got to remember the defensive backfield.

1530
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: They moving around, they're shifting, and.

1531
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: Like, if you don't know your stuff, you may think

1532
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: this dude is blessing. You're telling ammen, he coming. He

1533
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: can't come based off of the front, you know what

1534
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like all of this stuff. If you

1535
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: watch film, you got some dudes they don't, They don't

1536
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: really pay attention to film like that, and they just

1537
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: try to go be an athlete.

1538
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 5: I could imagine being a rookie quarterback in the NFL.

1539
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: Bro First of all, the defense that because I didn't

1540
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: want to talk, because you talked about in Arizona, when

1541
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: you knew you had to outscore people, that was a

1542
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: completely different ball game when you got to Baltimore. Yeah,

1543
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that transition. When you got

1544
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,879
Speaker 2: to Baltimore's around twenty twelve. And when you was in Baltimore,

1545
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: we talked about ray Lewis ed reed. So did you

1546
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: have Crystal Callison?

1547
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 3: Was he there?

1548
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: Had left? Who was the cornerbacks? So we had Webby,

1549
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: the Darius Darius web we had, uh So Mario was

1550
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 2: already gone tomorrow when I first got there. Dominique Foxworth

1551
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: was there when he had came over from Denver. Like

1552
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: you said, Sahoney, now of the big dude in the

1553
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: middle load he was man man like talk about that,

1554
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1555
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: And plenty of those guys.

1556
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: So I get to I get to Baltimore, I get

1557
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, and like you said, like and in Arizona,

1558
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: we ran the practice offensively, like our offense dominated. But

1559
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: when I got to Baltimore, like it was just the opposite.

1560
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: And I remember getting the training camp and the defense

1561
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: just was punking the offense like that. I'm talking like

1562
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: hitting dudes late, like yeah, I'm talking like I'm like, bro,

1563
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1564
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 6: What?

1565
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 5: So I remember like they say, we don't need you anyway, bro.

1566
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: I remember, and but the head coach, he was a

1567
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: defensive coach, so he loved that, loved it. So I remember.

1568
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: I remember we were in training camp in Westminster, and

1569
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: I remember like it happened a couple of times, like

1570
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: defense was cheap shot in the off So I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1571
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: wait say bro, let me tell y'all, but one of

1572
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: y'all hit me late. I'm gonna start practice, yeah, like

1573
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: all together, and I guarantee you you not walking off

1574
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: this field by yourself. Yeah you do to me what

1575
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: you just did. The buddy and Bruther's going down like

1576
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: like that because I wasn't. I wasn't used to defense

1577
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: running a practice, but like I'm like, bro, you can't

1578
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: just cheap shot and there was some savages over there.

1579
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, like, Bro, the defense was savage.

1580
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna fight.

1581
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: Design, Bro, I would mess up the whole team, Like

1582
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna walk off this field on your own power.

1583
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: If you do that to me, as you should, as

1584
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: you should. But again the defense man it was. But

1585
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: they respect that though, yeah, they respect But the defense,

1586
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: the defense, the defense, I used to make bets with

1587
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 2: the defense. I bet I have more more knockdowns than you, Like,

1588
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. We cracked back, yeah, and

1589
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: we were we would have you know, in side bits.

1590
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean you had today, yeah, oh yeah, I had

1591
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: like eight you know what I'm saying. Like, but when

1592
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 2: when you had Like like when I came over, before

1593
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: I got there, they had Derek Mason and Mace was

1594
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Mace was.

1595
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Mace was goody. Mace wasn't the physical type receiver. You

1596
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Mace was a route runner. Mace

1597
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: will route you up, you know what I'm saying. But

1598
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't like a physical presence on the field. You're physical.

1599
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: So like when I got there, we had Ray Rice

1600
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: at running back. We had Willis McGahee Willis, we had

1601
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: can clean yep, and then we ended up getting Ricky Williams.

1602
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 2: My second year there.

1603
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: But I would go to the coach and hey, coach,

1604
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: run the ball my way first play, like to set

1605
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: the tone. Yeah, the tone. You got safety coming down

1606
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: in the box. I'm cracking and like, man, them dudes

1607
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: love that defense, love that like so it got them hyped, like,

1608
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: oh man, we got a dog on offense, like let's

1609
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: go rock, you know what I'm saying. So, and we

1610
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: knew like us, I mean, if we scored fourteen to

1611
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: twenty one points, like.

1612
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: That was enough.

1613
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was enough. They gonna hold it down, you

1614
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, and then we had ED

1615
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: and on the back end, and then we ended up

1616
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: getting VP Pollock and he was a head hunter. Yeah

1617
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like we already knew, Like I mean,

1618
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: obviously you know ED is a Hall of Fame, EG.

1619
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: Gonna do what you do.

1620
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: But you bring a physical presence like VP to the

1621
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 1: back end like of what we already got up front,

1622
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: it was light.

1623
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: Sid So when you won, when you won, obviously you

1624
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: guys win the Super Bowl, you boll got that game

1625
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: you did, just think how did that feel? Obviously being

1626
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: drafted second round and everything you went to to finally

1627
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to play in the championship and play well.

1628
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: Well, for me, it was it was actually my second

1629
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl of second because in Arizona, we it was

1630
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: my my sixth year. It was the first time we

1631
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. But that was the year that we

1632
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: made it to the Super Bowl. Yes, so we made

1633
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl and we ended up losing

1634
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh on the last place.

1635
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 2: That was Antonio Holmes came last.

1636
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: Florida got to is Okay out of Florida.

1637
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: So we we lost that game, and like the only

1638
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: thing I remember saying to myself, I'm coming back. But

1639
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: the next time I come back, we winning it. And

1640
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: that was that was my goal from like that point on, like,

1641
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win a champion. How many years it took

1642
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: you to get back?

1643
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: That was.

1644
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: So my sixth year and I wanted my tenth year.

1645
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay about four So yeah. So the year we we

1646
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: got to the Super Bowl, we lost at the Pittsburgh.

1647
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: The following year we made the playoffs and we lost

1648
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: to the Saints, who ended up winning the Super Bowl,

1649
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: and then we made the playoffs my first year in Baltimore.

1650
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,440
Speaker 1: The second year, we made it to the AFC Championship

1651
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: and we missed the field goal to Tide in New England.

1652
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: And then we came back the same year, same exact

1653
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: game against New England and we smashed them.

1654
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: Like, Tay, you remember all the ones you lost. You

1655
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: run through the ones you lost like it wasn't nothing.

1656
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: He run through the was you lost? But they had

1657
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: you on the sideline saying, we ain't losing this game.

1658
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: Was that because you had lost before? You like in

1659
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: the way in hell, I ain't get it done this time. Yeah,

1660
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: that's what's up.

1661
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: That's what's up.

1662
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: You remember that because he went to the forty nine ers.

1663
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that My brother a forty

1664
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: nine Ers fan. So I got to ask. I don't

1665
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: even know how to He's from Miami, by the way,

1666
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: from Miami Liberty City. He's a forty nine Ers fan.

1667
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: I don't even understand it. So real quick, how was

1668
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: the run with the forty nine ers? My brother gonna

1669
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: be mad. It was dope.

1670
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: My first year, we actually made it to the NFC

1671
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Championship and we should have won it. We played Seattle,

1672
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: and Seattle ended up going to Super Bowl and and

1673
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: smashing Denver. There was a blowout, and we were hot

1674
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: because our teams were so similar, like the team that

1675
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: I was on in San Francisco and the team in

1676
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: Seattle that was pretty much like our rivalry at that time.

1677
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: And we had Navarro who ended up recovering the fumble

1678
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: on the one yard line and he tours a cl

1679
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,799
Speaker 1: same play, but they didn't give us the puneer recovery

1680
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 1: and that's what ended up costing us the game. But

1681
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: my time in San Fran was dope, and it was

1682
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: crazy because I played against San Fran in the Super

1683
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Bowl when I was in Baltimore. Yes, yeah, yes, we

1684
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. We win the Super Bowl in

1685
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore and I'm on a trip to to Africa doing

1686
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: some like humanitarian work and I get off the plane

1687
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: and I got like literally like one hundred text messages

1688
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: like congratulations, bro, Like like congratulations what.

1689
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: Like super Bowl? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, And

1690
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: I hit my agent up. I'm like, bro, what's going on.

1691
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: It's like, man, they traded you to sad Fran like

1692
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: they traded me to saying like what so you ain't

1693
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: even know I'm in the air, bro.

1694
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 5: Be true.

1695
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 2: Like I'm on my way to afterbody. Athletes being loyal

1696
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: to the team, they trade and.

1697
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: I got traded and I'm coming back and I'm you know,

1698
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: the whole time I'm thinking about I'm like saying, Fran,

1699
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, shoot, if I got traded there, they

1700
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: ain't bad. They were actually in the super Bowl, you

1701
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like we it's a legit team.

1702
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: And come back that year we had a great year,

1703
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: ended up winning our our division and like I said, no,

1704
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: we actually Seattle won a division, but we made the

1705
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: playoffs wild card. Then we beat Carolina at Carolina hmm,

1706
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: and then we played Seattle in Seattle. Had a great

1707
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: year that year. But that that team was man, that

1708
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: team was loaded.

1709
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, like defensively, even to another defense,

1710
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the.

1711
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 5: Hard balls all saying they run that much.

1712
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: You had Pat Pat Willis Navarro Bowman at you had

1713
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: all the Alden Smith smith.

1714
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 3: Of nature.

1715
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: When I.

1716
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: To two dudes on defense that people don't talk about.

1717
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: So when I got to Baltimore, Hellodi Nada, Hm, I

1718
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: ain't know who loading hello than not. It was when

1719
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 1: I when I came from Arizona. So, Bro, when we

1720
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: were in training camp, they would let him sit out

1721
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: individual drills like offensive defense. I'm like, bro, why is

1722
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: he sitting out? Like who is this dude? So we go,

1723
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: we go team they let him sit out, so I'm like, bro,

1724
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: who is this dude?

1725
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Man?

1726
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: We played the Jets the first game when I tell you,

1727
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: he is literally taking the ball out of the quarterback's

1728
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: hand as he's handing it to the running back. I said, yeah,

1729
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: he legit. If you don't double team him, damn, bro,

1730
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna wreck your game. And then I get to

1731
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco and I'm with all the all then to

1732
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: give you six sacks like it ain't nothing, and I'm

1733
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: not exaggerating. The dude will get a sack and just

1734
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: run to the sideline, go sit down like it wasn't

1735
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: no big deal.

1736
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: Bro.

1737
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: Like he he was actually on on pace to average

1738
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: a sack a game, which is unreal in the NFL. Wow,

1739
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: Like those two dudes, like I played all the famous

1740
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But Hellodi and all the

1741
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: man they were, they were different, Bro.

1742
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 3: That's what's up. I knew all this smell because he

1743
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: bounced around a little bit stage.

1744
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: So he had he had his stint and and seeing Frank,

1745
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: he ended up getting in some trouble and get a

1746
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: little trouble and then he was talented. Oakland ended up

1747
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: picking him up and then they released him, and then

1748
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: he sat out a couple of years and then ended

1749
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: up going to Dallas.

1750
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: But man, he bro he was a talent dog killer.

1751
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 5: We appreciate you coming on, Killer.

1752
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 3: I got one more.

1753
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 2: I got one more killer because he he has a

1754
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: son that plays basketball, and me and you played basketball.

1755
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: But we got kids that played basketball. But he played football.

1756
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: So how did that happen?

1757
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 6: Was it?

1758
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 2: Did he did he ever want to play football? Or

1759
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 2: was he naturally pay basketball? He played football, and I

1760
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: mean he was I remember like in middle he played

1761
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: like flag or whatever in middle school. And I remember.

1762
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: This coach on his team, he was like he went

1763
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 1: up to my son. He was like, hey, I'm sorry,

1764
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna double you the whole game, Like you

1765
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: just gonna have to beat us, you know, you gotta

1766
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: be two dudes all games. And I remember my son

1767
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: catching the slint and house and like taking an eighty

1768
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: and then he comes back and they just throw him

1769
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: a jump ball and he wouldn't have got that too

1770
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 1: over both of them. And I'm like, dude, serious, like

1771
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: got great hands. But man, he gravitated towards basketball like

1772
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: and for me, I wasn't gonna. I ain't evenna force

1773
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: you to play football. Of course, do what makes you happy.

1774
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Whatever it is that you

1775
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: want to do, we're supporting you. But so he gravitated

1776
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: towards basketball. Yeah, but he got that football in him

1777
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: if he wanted it, Oh, yeah to it.

1778
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good.

1779
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: I always thought that was interesting because obviously it's easy

1780
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: for me and him to have kids that play back

1781
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: basketball and for us to fall into that lane. But

1782
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: then when you play football, you have a kid that

1783
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: falls into the basketball lane. Like as a father, my

1784
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: son played baseball. I ain't had no clue. I ain't

1785
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: had no clue. Bro he still don't crazy at head,

1786
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: I said, listen, I could call out pitches, not and everything,

1787
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: but all I got invested because of my son. I

1788
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: get up out of my comfort zone because of my son.

1789
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: But he played baseball like it wasn't basketball. My first

1790
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: son plays football, my second son plays baseball. My youngest son,

1791
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: who you saw here, played basketball. But the other two

1792
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: didn't care to touch a basketball. And I was fine

1793
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: with that too, By the way, I did enough of

1794
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: that for everybody, right. But yeah, we appreciate you, doll, man.

1795
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: I seen you in a Jim Killer. You want to

1796
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: welcome to come work out with us if you would

1797
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 2: like to video? Yeah, for sure, center working out at home.

1798
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 4: We appreciate, though, man, for real, real doll, no doubt, respect,

1799
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 4: appreciate Oh Jesus O jezu.

1800
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: Mamah, mam.

1801
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 6: Ma, mam

1802
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Ma.